SVIX
-1x Short VIX Futures ETF
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Best ways to profit from market crashes/downswings? Options on volatility ETP/ETF?
Can you please explain SVIX to me like I'm a 5 year old?
Shorting VIX investment idea - Tell me what y'all think
Shorting VIX investment strategy - Tell me what y'all think
I got some new crayons from Wendys, my first DD.
Thoughts on the UVIX and the SVIX??
UVIX soared nearly 40% on the day! An investor's "dream" return, what other investment would have such a return?
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Given that everyone is on vacation and the market is dead, Jan 2 $23.50 calls on SVIX. Anything higher than 24.23 is profit and its moved up 1.8 in the last 6 trading days, which is the length of the call (currently 23.87). I expect next week to be just as boring as this week. Disclaimer: I'm not degenerate enough to do this myself, but it did look like an interesting trade
Options have a brutal built-in self education course; I do not recommend. Some alternatives: 1. STRC. Requires some trust in MSTR but is supposedly over collateralized. Yield is over 10% and adjustable. 2. Dividend life insurance. I have policies that are 10% base insurance, 90% "paid up additions" and after several years of owning them I have the cash value growth match the SP500 with guardrails. Yield is around 7%. (Load with this design is about 10% versus 50% or more with traditional policy design). 3. If you're entrepreneurial and understand local real estate, offer hard money loans. Rates are +15% but you need to structure loans with recourse and know what you're doing. I know a guy doing it and he loves it, turning into retirement income for him. 4. Short Volatility. If you're stuck on stocks and don't like STRC or want more control then do this. There's discussions here on reddit about how to do it. Once again, risk management is key. I only buy SVIX, never short, and always have a stop loss. I won't mention my CAGR but other stock trades don't hold a candle to it, it's like staring at the sun.
SVIX is easy to borrow now with some brokers. Most reliable short I've encountered.
SVIX is easy to borrow on etrade LOL. shorted just 30 shares for a start. will start building this hedge . so much better than buying puts or donating money to UVIX's decay
I ve been eyeing SVIX puts for the same. If vix spikes SVIX tanks hard. But I wont put 50 K. Maybe 2K.
This trade is hard to time correctly but if you time it right it pays off super well, But SVIX looks pretty bullish right now
SVIX and the etp's track vix futures, not the index. You're also better off probably buying calls on UVXY, UVIX, or VXX. Also, trying to predict spikes is hard and you're more than likely going to lose money on this but good luck.
Good news! You can buy XIV again with SVIX, just be careful of random -90% days
So how we feeling about SVIX today? Shorting that shiz? Looks like easy money if we calm or we get fooked royally.
If the ^VIX breaks past $27.52 then I’d say start buying shares of SVIX to bet against it short term ngl. If it dosnt break, we going back down. We’ve been here before a few times , we never break that point . That’s the key for me.
Your buy signal is when SVIX hits $9, SOXL hits $7, and Saylor gets liqudated and sent to prison.
Google says alcohol consumption remains stable during hard times. What happens is that people shift to drinking more at home which is much, much cheaper. people already do the majority of their weed smoking at home, so the cheaper alternative is to either smoke less, or shift to alcohol, which is cheaper.... Bur go for it, and buy those weed stocks. :) I hope you get rich! As for me, Im selling CSPs against VIXY until SVIX hits 14, at which point I'll buy directly into that and sell covered calls against it until it gets back to 20.
Gonna help you out. Just inverse yourself. For example, buy SQQQ instead of QQQ. Buy SVIX instead of VIX.
What to look for today: Strong sell-off at open Brief bounce-back to even Another dump to take us back to where we started Slow steady climb during the day to end at +0.68% Endless amount of "bers r fuk" comments during this time SVIX ending the day above 20 Zero movement in the aftermarket
anyone going into the SVIX today?
shorting /VX is what I do. I opened more /VX december shorts today. But a lot of folks here are not comfortable with futures or trade in their IRAs where they can only buy, not short. so SVIX is a (poor) substitute for that.
Those who are panicking -- just take a look at /VX for this month, for dec and for Jan. this is why SVIX has taken only a small shit. because the market is pricing this correction as short lived. either sell naked calls or outright short if you feel like you want to trade. or start buying SVIX as it approaches 15 . you know the drill. when it looks like the world is ending, buy. with leverage. made a tidy pile in apr, will make a tidy pile this time.
Just buy SVIX calls atp, volatility will drop at some point
In the fine print it specifically termination if it fell below 80% on a single day. The new one, "SVIX", doesn't have the same stipulation.
SVIX +10% since friday open lol amazing
UVIX = 3X leveraged VIX. Aims to go up or down 3X whatever VIX does SVIX = double leveraged opposite of VIX. I’m personally in $20k of UVIX. I think there more volatility ahead even though the market is up today
Just buy SVIX if you wanna bet against the VIX
JNUG right before it fundamentally broke, BTC right before it went from 60 to 20, most recently SVIX right before tariffs. Needless to say they’re all back and I sold at the bottom. Currently riding VIXY into the ground.
I don’t play VIX options directly (they decay fast), but I sometimes look at the ETNs around it (UVIX, VIXY, SVIX) for premium selling. As of 09/25, **30DTE/30Δ returns** look like this: * **UVIX (IV30 \~154):** Put ≈ **10.66%**, Call ≈ **8.84%** (3-mo avg: Put 8.21%, Call 7.41%) * **VIXY (IV30 \~70):** Put ≈ **1.98%**, Call ≈ **3.35%** (3-mo avg: Put 3.57%, Call 4.06%) * **SVIX (IV30 \~63):** Put ≈ **7.37%**, Call ≈ **7.99%** (3-mo avg: Put 4.32%, Call 3.03%) UVIX has huge premiums (and risk), VIXY is thinner/steadier, SVIX is interesting if you want to fade vol. I’d size small since vol products can rip hard.
What maturities would you sell? the VIX pretty much always mean reverts back down after a spike... With Vol plays I've only ever done spot on the ETFs never options. Back in April when the VIX was elevated I went long UVIX, made about 90% in a few weeks and then closed and immediately went long SVIX at around the end of April, just hit the bid on that position this morning for another 90% gain (rode the mean reversion wave down) Selling puts over that period would NOT have worked out well... Just for some perspective
Normally yes - but SVIX options are incredibly low-volume, as in zero open interest for many deep ITM options. Some days I feel like I'm the only one playing in that sandbox, when I buy 5 calls and I'm the only open interest on that particular option. I don't know if it's just a lack of interest in SVIX, or if it's where people normally fear to tread.
Good deal - but I'm curious as to the current value proposition of UVIX calls, vs. SVIX puts. The puts look cheaper to me, and they've been VERY good to me, but I could be missing something ...
Me, except for SGOV and SVIX. I have nvidia and the rest are EU stocks. Which have done really well actually.
Full port UVIX was NOT the move this morning lads. Praying we just keep rallying and SVIX gets me back to breakeven 😂
When it tanks put it all in SVIX, it’s split 60/40 with long term capital gains
SVIX will do this, but I wouldn't recommend
The only strategy I’ve ever used successfully (and begrudgingly) is weekly SVIX calls and putting half into reinvesting in SVIX and the other half in UVIX and UVXY for the inevitable dumpster fire. UVXY and UVIX swelled to 80$ and 100$ respectively during first tariff announcements. They are 14$ and 17$ now. I have watched VIX every day of my life for the last 10 years and I’m convinced it’s where I can thousands into millions during the next true market crash.
Since it’s just the two of us here… I’m playing SVIX weekly calls every fucking week and putting all the earnings into UVIX and UVXY for the inevitable crash. 17$ ETF that spiked to 100$ when the OG tariffs came out. Imagine when the market truly corrects. I was there trading TVIX during COVID before it got delisted. 7$ volatility stock surged to 1000$ a share in 3 months. I’m a bear forced to trade like a bull..
I fucking Yolod into SVIX.
Ironic, since im lime up 300% total on all my SVIX trades
RIOX and SVIX have been my biggest cash cows I might just start investing in shit that ends in X or smth
Don’t tell these morons about SVIX it’ll be the new SPY…
In February I had shorted five lots (500 shares) of broadcom that I covrred once the tariff panic struck. I habitually short SVIX weekly because that ETF is designed to lose money. Then I also short UVXY because, again, the way it is structured, it keeps losing money. It is hard to time the top, but selling a little each day works. Taking profit is also hard to gt accurately... but even if you are close to the bottom it's good enough. The best shorts are tripled leveraged ETFs that undergo decay . If you use them in a way they are not intended (i.e., short shares instead of buying), you profit. Some of my best gains came from shorting TQQQ and SQQQ.
I bought it at 88… then sold because the market wasn’t going up at all… bought and sold a lot of things that day when it was lowest… only thing I kept was a TSLA contract and SVIX calls which paid out pretty well. But sticking with NVDA is good too. It was my go to until I realized a simple rumor about Deepseek which was a big nothing burger (as Jensen said it was) tanked the stock for a record breaking loss for any stock ever.
Some gey ber bought UVIX at $30, while I bought SVIX at $10. We are not the same LMAO
I thought I was maybe stupid to buy a bunch of SVIX yesterday, but here we are
why SVIX vs SVXY; did u buy calls or shares
I bought SVIX in April. Thank you for asking.
Is anyone buying SVIX at these levels?
How are the VIX and SVIX both green
VXX. Wait for Trump to do something miraculously stupid. Profit. Put in SVIX. Ride it down. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Did the same. SGOV and EU ETFs, although I did pick up more Nvidia when it was near 100. I also bought SVIX at the lows because it has to go back up sometime. I’m already retired so live off of my portfolio. I can’t afford to weather Trumps Taco Tuesdays.
Somehow, shorting the VIX from 52 to 18 only made you ~30% via SVIX during the Trump Dump What a fucking scam lmao
yeah, it hard to time, I've done better with SVIX on the short term
Finally sold my SVIX that I’ve been holding for a few months. Most likely taking the money and rolling it into SoFi on a bit of a dip. I still feel like SoFi is undervalued at $15.
The past week, I bought shares of DFEN, GUSH, UVIX, SDS, calls for SPXU SPXS and puts for a few companies. Will snatch up 10 shares here and there of SVIX when VIX is up. If it drops below 12.50 I’ll buy a 1 month out call for 13. 100 SHLD but not trying to to play with a CC right now
Inverse- SVIX for me Monday unless the market shrugs it off.
Au contraire, you can gamma scalp by shorting VXX, UVXY or UVIX or long SVIX, it's usually a very boring gradual upward slope with periodic explosions, April was insane. The reason I do that is that very often the VIX explodes late night when you can't sell the option. I do the same with SPX and a few commodities.
I keep cheap OTM VIX calls in my portfolio all the time for this reason, wound up buying SVIX shares overnight to secure gains until I could sell in the morning.
Time to start looking at SVIX...
My port has gotten to the point where I can look at the futes or how SPY or QQQ is in the premarket and it tells me almost nothing about what my net position is doing, what with the puts, calls, leveraged & inverse ETFs, gold, and either UVIX or SVIX. And whatever the pre-market balance seems to be, it's going to change as soon as options open and those prices updates. (RIP my GOOG calls, but my GLD calls and TSLA put on the other hand...?) Gives me a sense of anticipation for the opening bell tho
I made a quick $200 hopping in and out of SVIX today after that sharp plunge. Holding UVIX in another account for about a month has been a dumb move however. I keep thinking we'll have some Liberation Day type nonsense at some point and it will like double in an hour. (And then drop back to where it was an hour later)
All on SVIX cause this is a nothingburger
Just for that my buy in on SVIX is 7 dollars. WSB always gets too greedy.
Late follow up, just seeing this. Never found one, and with the benefit of hindsight I now consider shorting UVIX on black swan days to be a far better play than long SVIX. SVIX recoveries are extremely slow, and are blown out severely on big VIX days. UVIX drops back down to its starting point very quickly. Just keep in mind that borrow costs also explode on UVIX on those days, so will need to have that in your calculation.
I'm just starting to try to get ahead of his shit n bought SQQQ and SVIX Friday near the lows bc orange man flops like a predictable byatch and the market sadly continues to overreact to all his shit.
I went over there during the peak of the VIX spike to tell them to yolo their entire amount into SVIX, and I got temp banned. What a bunch of regards.
I would have agreed with you 100% just a couple of years ago but I'm not so sure anymore Why? I don't know. I dont know what SVIX is or like what it does but Im up +50%
As tempted as I'm to do 0DTE puts, I also know the smart move is Leveraged ETF's so I don't get burned by premiums. SVIX, SQQQ, and SOXS.
Looks like the smart idea might be put some money in SVIX....
SVIX has some contago stuff going on in it. It makes it a bad investment for playing ViX mean reversion.
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Want a fun one? Try SVIX… maybe far out of the money all in with an expiration 1-2 months out. Look at the chart first and decide for yourself if it makes sense.
Only true chads bought SVIX at $10 range. 😁
So after SVIX is done grinding up each day with the contango that is developing, give it 3 weeks or so : WHY the fuck is shorting SVIX not free money? Essentially, SVIX will increase at a logarithmically decreasing rate until the next volatility event. So shorting \~100 shares each day would seem sensible..
So if you went short the vix (most obvious trade ever) with $SVIX before, at say, $10 flat, you'd be up 47% now.
Shit's finally be good for SVIX
In terms of hidden risks, no not really. XIV was a case study on how not to structure an inverse volatility instrument. ETFs like SVIX are more regulated and they have safeguard features to prevent against a sudden liquidation event. Regardless of these protections, they are still inverse volatility instruments and anything inversing volatility will get crushed during a black swan event (COVID, carry trade implosion, etc). That’s why it’s recommend to use these inverse volatility products for short term trades not long term investing.
SVIX differs from XIV because A). It’s an ETF not an ETN so no credit risk and B). SVIX doesn’t have an acceleration/termination clause like XIV did. That being said, it still uses inverse of short term VIX futures so it can still lose a majority of its value in a day during a black swan event. I always recommend reading the prospectus yourself, as these are very complicated instruments.
In remembrance of JDV killing XIV and in honor of our new pope Bob XIV, I will be buying some SVIX 0dte tomorrow
When SVIX back to $15
I am now the owner of 500 SVIX shares  Will sell as soon as it moves past $14
Just as that’s a small percentage of investors, so are the people who panic sold. I am not sure how old you are, but 2025 has been an amazing buying opportunity for the majority of investors (CNBC said the median age was 33). As I mentioned in the other discussion with the OP I replied to, it’s self inflicted by Trump and I don’t agree with the tariffs, but unless you panic sold, you have to be pretty relieved on the market the past couple of days. If you don’t agree with me look at SVIX… clearly other people have a sense of security from an economic standpoint as it has been steadily increasing from all the shit that he caused with mass tariffs.
I sold my SVIX position way, way too early
I should have kept my SVIX 10,21 avg position habit longer, basically free money that I just gave away
SVIX put credit spreads. Wrap your head around that
This is what I am doing SVIX below $10.50. TLT below $87. GTC SPY at $520, $510, $490. REITs for dividends - RITM below $10, NLY below $18.
Options on VXX/SVIX/UVXY - options on an ETF based on futures of the volatility of the S&P500. More derivatives than calculus lol
Both VIX futures and SVIX down according to my tracker app
Sitting on SVIX shares @ $10 cost avg is pretty freaking nice.
SVIX is going up and TSLA is going down. Did the MM finally decide to stop the pump?
IMAGINE NOT LOADING UP ON SVIX Volatility was never gonna stay that high forever. Free money
>but that's an index ETF and those are always European-style. shouldn't be risk there. Index ETFs generally have American-style options (think SPY, QQQ, SVIX). Index options generally have European-style options (SPX, VIX). > If you could borrow at 2% rather than 4%....wouldn't you? This will get priced in somewhere. If you borrow Euros at 2% and trade it for USD, you'll end up paying the difference in the FX. If you buy European stocks with your borrowed cash, then you'll be taking currency risk. If you attempt to hedge the currency risk, you'll end up paying the 2% spread with the hedge. By the no arbitrage condition, there shouldn't be a way to take a cheaper loan than you could in the US and use it for the same investments.
I just sold my SVIX position so bulls you're good to rally 👍 👍