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Made a ton of plays today. Let's see where they end up tomorrow and at the end of the week.
Someone smart talk me out of dollar cost averaging SVXY for the next couple weeks..
[VERY IMPORTANT] As we enter into the month of June, let's look at some expectations & market dynamics into June OPEX which is marked for 20th June. It's important to understand this, especially if you are a swing trader.
SVXY calls YOLO WITH MY FULL PORTFOLIO. WE EITHER GOIN BROKE OR RICH THIS WEEKEND
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$SVXY which is "Short VIX" etf is near the top of Jan 2020. Meaning VIX is near the bottom and ready to move higher. ( Tldr : Correction )
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the ETF route is like a low‑maintenance way to taste VRP, but it only captures the roll‑premium from a contango future curve and still drags under the IRA‑costs of the fund. your 0.8–1.0 Sharpe looks solid for that, but the touch‑point with big spikes and the overnight imprint of the VIX futures basis means you risk a 10‑15% crash on a single day. options let you pick the volatility smile parabola, delta‑hedge the exposure and keep the gross implied vs realized gap; they need the same dev effort but cut the fee penalty out. if you’re concerned about the operational headache, start with a cheap low‑fee VIX futures ETF (SVXY, XIV, or XUV) and use a 2‑step approach: hold the ETF in contango and roll‑back when the curve flips, then retune toward an options book once you’re comfortable with the mechanics.
Well, you should learn that stuff and how etp's work if you're going to trade them. Also, SVIX/SVXY will underperform just shorting the long vol etp's after a spike. Which can give ideas into a pairs trade. Its not a bad product to use but your best bet is to just probably short the long vol etp's vs long svix/svxy.
And SVXY only up 2.5% what a fukkkin joke LMAO 🤌
This is also true for volatility ETFs like SVXY and UVXY.
sold SVXY 45 puts do it, citadel, bring another volmageddon
They (as in, specifically, Janet Yellen and the US Treasury) seized control of the VIX via SVIX/SVXY in 2022
fax, you can short tho (SVIX, SVXY & shorting VXX)
Oh, yeah, the ticker. It's SVXY. Go nuts.
why did I sell SVXY at 57.30 overnight... I could've made more money...
It's so retarded I had to do a double take because my IQ cratered reading and thinking about those trades. Anyways, it's better to do it with options but then you're not even doing anything to QQQ so much as running a "short volatility" trade. Sure you could jump through hoops and take unlimited upside risk like that but it's easier to just use UXVY/SVXY options if you wanted to play VOL.
SPX and NDX making new highs today but DJIA and RUT look bearish. There are numerous bearish divergences developing that after a small correction and then another new high may be the end of this move up. Bearish divergences: Fewer stocks participating in this rally. Advance-Decline line deteriorating These indices at or above the Bollinger Band associated with tops. Correlation Index deteriorating VIX hasn’t made a new low in 2 years, VXN no new low in months, SVXY not making new highs, UVXY hasn’t taken out it’s low in couple of months since the February stock market highs, HYI (Junk Bond etf) is also not making new high that strongly correlates to stock indices along with SVXY (short VIX or Volatility) Sentiment Index at levels associated with tops 77+. SPX and NDX both in a 3rd wave advance of a 5th and final wave off the 3/30/26 low. All is needed for this 3rd wave to complete, a 4th wave correction, then a final 5th wave of 5 up. Thereafter a larger correction should ensue. The bearish development of both the Dow and the Russell (RUT) will drag down the other indices eventually maybe by week’s end or early next week. Time to lighten up portfolios!
It's my hedge against a market collapse. This includes call options that expire either end of year or a few years away. This includes SVXY, UVXY, VIXY, and UVIX to name a few.
Just don’t buy SVXY when VIX is higher at a prolonged period
Yeah but SVXY is so boring and slow It might not even beat MAG7 on a reverse, let alone some of the higher beta names I own
SVXY is what you're looking for btw
Bouncing like a kid on a new trampoline .$VXX on the way up $SVXY on the way down. Easy money
Right now is a Kangaroo market. Crab market is low vol. VIX is above 20. Easy way to tell is: >WSBtards losing money >AND posting "What's IV crush?", "LOSS: I sold 1000 0DTE SPY calls and getting exercised!", "RH margin called. -$150K TSLA short loss", "Why is my SVXY going down?", and "I am officially broke. -$700k loss. When short Jan'25 and then bought YOLO'D into puts May'25". It's a Kangaroo. >WSBtards losing money >AND posting "Why is my GME/BTC/BBBY/WE/SPCE falling?", "$50K loss on 0DTE SPY calls YOLO", "VIX short -$69,420 loss! Why did it go up?", and "GOOG is such a piece of shit. Here's my $400 FD I bought at $300 after it ran up 100%. MARKET IS RIGGED!" It's a Crab.
Thanks for the detailed game plan. But why me? I've been selling cash covered puts and sipping some of the dip. AXP, BLK, and MSFT. Thinking about LVMUY/BAC/IWM too. Tried to sell SVXY puts but no one bit.
I always thought trading VIX is better than individual stocks or even indexes. VIX does mean revert while stocks don't always and indexes can take years if not decades. I was going to ask what's your VIX trigger, but then I looked at the Friday VIX and saw it was at 29. Yeah. I would trade VIX if it's that high too. Sadly no bites on my SVXY put sales.
You think so? It's tough to tell with things like this, but Trump does tend to TACO. Problem is there is no guarantee Iran wants to stop. Trump can't easily TACO out this time. I wanted to sell SVXY puts but no one was buying. Also very busy with my own things this week, but bought some BLK and sold some IWM puts.
anyone remember the SVXY crash in 2018? that shit was bonkers.
SVXY, but the real answer is don't, it doesn't behave as you think it would.
days like this, monday open after Iran commander announced dead, we will probably see a spike up in vix, followed by a delayed gradual fall as the market stabilizes, the market is very efficient and will be chasing liquidity, beginner investors panic selling etc, when vix spikes, can fade the spike and short the vix on SVXY, thats a nice trade tomorrow. Regardless, I plan on taking my .30 on the tqqq or sqqq depending on market structure tomorrow morning, this is the life of a Day Trader - A scalper of nasdaq using the 3x leveraged etfs TQQQ and SQQQ.
Tomorrow might be a good day to short VIX in some way. I'll be looking at ATM, VIX, UVXY, and VXX put spreads. But I'm sure you all think spreads are regarded. For those that must buy calls out of stubbornness, some extremely liquid SVXY leaps will do the trick
SVXY? VIXM? don't leave us hanging
SVIX SVXY got that congango steepness working in is favor like in 2022-2024 again
I bought and then semi-quickly sold ~$300 of SVXY in after hours during volmageddon. Not too expensive overall but I sure felt stupid.
Thank you. You are the smart person I was looking for when I wrote this. My understanding of financial derivatives is limited to very basic options stuff. Do you happen to have any book recommendations if I wanted to learn more about derivatives? Specifically what kind of stuff leveraged ETFs contain and how they work? To be honest my only interest in SVXY was based on another reddit post describing it as a non leveraged VIX short play. I have no idea if the other poster was correct. I can say looking at the historical chart fro SVXY I can't see the volatility decay like I can with all of the other VIX ETFs I've looked at. I couldn't do multivariable calculus based statistics in my prime and sure AF can't do it now. So maybe the timing of the splits is covering up the volatility decay.
Or you could just long $SVXY
I have made over 20k realized trading this month. I have a terrible track record of winning and then giving it all back because the market turns. Literally 2018 - SVXY blow up, 2020 - MSFT 200c, SPCE before SPACs were cool, 2022 - sold NVDA. Every top I yeeted in and they all fucked me up. If ever there was a time to buy puts it might be tomorrow. I hope I am wrong
Yeah, thats why I used to sell naked calls on UVXY instead. I switched to SVXY to be "safer".
Yeah if I'm honest I kept buy shares when it got around 20-30% down. I had been accumulating shares for many years and also selling naked puts every week as well. Ironically, I switched to SVXY to sell naked puts because I used to sell naked calls on UVXY and I felt like SVXY was "safer". Well the daily rebalancing on SVXY made that not the case, and UVXY calls would have remained OTM at expiration. Only silver lining is over the years selling UVXY and SVXY calls provided a lot of income and the margin requirement at TD Ameritrade at the time was only $1.00 for every $1.00 in premium, so I was making 100% a week for a long time.
I was in SVXY that day, back in Aug 2024, I had to nix the short side of a VXX call diagonal to match the drop and came out green. Heck, I started trading XIV when it first came out in 2011, one of the first things I learned was the 80% rule in it's prospectus, kept it hedged at all times.
Yes. I had shares in SVXY for about 3 years before its 90% in 1 day crash. I even regularly looked at the 80%+ OTM puts that were like 6 months out and they were super cheap, like $0.20 or possibly even less. I had maybe $30k worth of shares. I could have basically insured the whole position for a couple of hundred dollars per year. I told myself why bother. I remember looking at the options the next day and it would have covered my entire loss. I ended up getting margined called and lost all of my other positions in that account too. SVXY is/was a unique product though, but I guess there are technically other stocks that "could" drop 80% in 1 day. Though SVXY did it in about 1 hour at the end of a trading day due to a random spike in the VIX.
Lol I bought $SVXY at $50 recently just for shits and giggles indicator. I'm up 2% in as many days. I'll let you know when to buy puts 🙃
I'll add on to u/Krammsy's reply and say Yes also. But what is a "PMCC farm"? And it sounds like you may have too many positions on. I know that it's preached to us that we diversify ("diversify away the risk"), but at some point your return will just be that of SPY or whatever. To get excess return, I think you need to focus on the best-in-class investments. For me, that means 10 stocks, or 5 ETFs, as I laid out above. It sounds like you're thinking properly about non-correlation, but I'm not sure that doing it to an extreme is worth the extra effort. Here's how I do it, in case this helps: Running the same ETF screen as I did above, "has options," "500k volume", "sorted by 3-month performance," then just looking at charts, I start picking tickers like this: XME, SIL, --whoops-- "Isn't XME heavy in precious metals? It is, but keep it for now...GX "Silver Miners"... GDX "Gold Miners" ... SVXY "I don't like playing the VIX" ... MAGS, ASHR, KWEB ... "Whoops, there's another China." Like that, at a macro level, I certainly don't dig into their holdings. And to your last question: Yes. About 30 - 45 minutes each evening is what I spend across 3 accounts with 24 positions, though some are duplicates of each other. Mainly the 'tending' is setting up new CCs for tomorrow because the ones I had on came off with their GTC BTC orders. And then checking that the underlyings are behaving and that my long Calls haven't lost too much. It sounds to me like you're very much on the right track, but maybe back off on the analytics a bit. It really can be as simple as setting up those GTC BTC orders and selling new short Calls. And cutting the occasional position and screening for a new one. And the "screening" part, if it's mid-week, is usually just plowing freed-up cash into the best-performing instrument in that account. On the weekends I'll spend more time screening for new things and thinking strategically. Best of luck to you!
Also, I had a better stomach to the lows this year, most recently, and not to sell, and plug my nose every now and then and buy when others were selling. Which my margin would be up anyways at that point. Gotta grab some deals! It helps owning VXX UVXY UVIX at that time, and then switch to SVXY SVIZ ZIV. Made some profits. ZiV is an interesting one. Pays about 24% dividend equally distributed to each month. I'm not up on that one. Or on IIPR. I've owned that one for a while, just like AEM.
Shorting the VIX below 15 is peak degen alpha when markets are snoring—volatility's basically comatose, like India's VIX hitting 15-month lows amid stable Nifty runs (per recent Times of India reports). It bets on complacency persisting, profiting from contango decay in futures, but don't kid yourself: one black swan (cough, policy shocks like JPMorgan's been warning) and you're the cat getting bounced. I've seen pros on X tout this for flat-to-up S&P scenarios, but amateurs get rekt—Quora vets call it a pro-only graveyard. If you're YOLOing, pair it with SVXY for leverage, but hedge your ass or join the regarded ranks. What's your entry, ape? 🚀📉 Sources: - https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-to-short-the-volatility-index - https://caia.org/blog/2022/01/01/better-way-short-volatility - https://www.tradingsim.com/blog/mastering-the-art-of-shorting-the-vix-strategies-for-volatility-trading
SVXY style implosion will teach a whole new generation
Sure, time the crash with VIXY and then time the bottom, sell VIXY, take those gains and buy SVXY on the way up. That's all there is to it :o)
Care to share more of this concept? I have SVXY overlaid on my SPY chart and use it as "general market sentiment", but Im not sure how this could be an entry/exit indication.
why SVIX vs SVXY; did u buy calls or shares
does anyone buy SVXY when VIX spikes? 🤔
If shares, look into leveraged shares such as SQQQ/TQQQ, UVXY, SVXY, etc. If you want some action daily, might be a starting point.
My SVXY shares are up 40% Nice.
I lost a few K to SVXY. Id like to think I bought a few deck chairs on Thiels yacht maybe.
This is what it looked like LTD, using SVXY: https://preview.redd.it/3p2vspy09sze1.png?width=2379&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cbd7c18b3a78fda244e6c001a9e23c02469a5bc
i did that once, full port on SVXY blew out my anoos in feb of 2018 thought it was free tendy
I’m 90% cash HYSA right now and the rest in TBills with maybe 10k in EU ETFs and a sprinkling in Google and Pfeizer. I do have some stop buys on SVXY once the VIX settles down because I feel like that’s easy money, (BUT IS IT?!). I just want to see what the summer is like before I start buying back in. I just think the market is being driven by "buy the dip" retail investors and nothing underlying points towards a good stable rally.
I have limit trades riding on SVXY. The VIX will have to stabilize at some point… right?
All I know is that I bought SVXY on 4/7 and am currently down on the position.
I bought SVXY on 4/7 and am currently down on the position.
SVXY and SVIX aren't even moving
My dumpster fire of a SVXY trade a few days ago is back on green street
Short the VIX. $SVXY Buy below $31
I'm still stuck in SVXY in one of my accounts waiting for a mean reversion. I was hoping at least that would be a winner on better news.
It is free money until it breaks.I used to make good easy money with SVXY. Good 100% returns over time and in Fed 2018, some extremely volatile event breaks its neck
I think a lot of people have explained but property but I’ll give you a real life example I put 6 figures in SVXY before the 90 day halt. After it was announced SPY rallied 9%. Guess how much SVXY rallied? 11. It doesn’t move like how you think. If you buy options I can only imagine there is something you haven’t figured out and it’s going to fk you on theta. Unless there are large moves on VIX that aren’t priced in.
Leverage factor is the difference. SVXY is -0.5, which is better for longer term lower risk plays. SVIX is -1, making it riskier with higher potential upside especially over shorter periods.
If you wanna go long on this you can buy into one of my favorite tickers- SVXY the "anti volatility" play. You basically can't lose in the long run with it and big bonus if you get in at the bottom.
I’m about 85% cash and have moved my money into FLCA, FLEE, investments like that. I’m still holding AAPL and NVDA because I came in so low on those, and I’m daily hedging UVIX and SVXY with the market craziness. None of this makes any sense. And I still don’t know exactly what tariffs are where so who knows what’s going on. Is he working on what? What is his end goal? (Besides making money hand over fist)
SVXY exists too, and as someone pointed out, what goes up must come down.
This isn't a recommendation and I may get tarted/feathered for this but covered calls on SVXY or SVIX have a great CAGR with decent downside protection, as always strategy and position management is critical
Means my SVXY short vol is ruining my day again.
When are we buying SVXY
Put a few tens of dollars into SVXY and VIXY out of curiosity and boredom. "Learn while doing" etc etc
Well now I have an awful unrealized losing trade in SVXY. At this point I just have to sit and wait for the VIX to go back to normal-ish levels. Eventually it will and I'm not levered up enough to get margin called.
I've avoided taking much of any damage during this last week, but I got caught in a bad short VIX trade (SVXY) in my cash account. It's ugly, but since it's only shares and not on margin I can just wait it out with no worry of action from my broker. VIX won't be elevated forever.
SVXY gave back EVERYTHING 
SVXY - someone mentioned that to me and I was like… oh yah. That would work.
Short vol was all over twitter the last few days. Most folks suggested either using spreads on the indexes or instruments like SVXY
Short VIX is my favorite play at the moment. Returning to Feb-Mar levels of vol would take SVXY up another 10-20% from here, and the tail risk of waking up to VIX 100 has abated for now.
You were right! I bought a slew of SVXY and it's still climbing. Thanks. I do have a stop loss in case Trump decides to do another Orange Swan Event.
SVXY (short the VIX) was higher on the Walter Bloomberg meltup around SPY 520-525 than it is right now.
SVXY remains the play as it lags VIX and vol fades fast
SVXY still has about 4-5% to go to catch up to the VIX. VIX is going to steadily grind down on this news. We're not going to have this kind of vol for a couple months
If you missed the burst short the VIX (SVXY) I don't know where we're going as a nation but we're not going back to the vol we had the last 5 days for the next 90 days.
Look at the SVXY 10 year chart. This is not something you wanna hold for very long, its meant for short term use. Good luck anyway
But its shares of SVXY, how would getting blown out happen if i decide to simply hold onto it for a while?
Wow, glad there is at least one like minded person out there! Not sure why this post didn't get traction. Perhaps there are more direct plays with potentially larger risk/alpha out there like SH or SVXY though.
Probably stupid question, but is there any possible downside from just buying a buttload of SVXY shares and waiting?
I rode the put train today, now riding the SVXY calls train…so I hope you’re right!
sure glad I like to take profits a little too soon. sold off my big SVXY (short VIX) play from Sunday night this morning before it would have aged like milk.
woo woo! I have green in my port from SPY, SH, SVXY, NVDA, BYD today. Most from SH (short SPY for IRAs) but winning all over the board
it's a canary in the coal mine that SVXY is lagging VIX. it means traders are not at all willing to pay a premium to short vol, meaning they think more to come.
I just wonder why SVXY can outperform SVIX this much today
you are smart. the divergences in VIX/SVXY and bitcoin to stocks warned of it
it's a tell that Bitcoin didn't go up like stocks did. it's a tell that SVXY (short VIX) is way behind the actual VIX these factors all scream synthetic short covering rally and more down legs
It's a tell that SVXY (short the VIX) is significantly lagging the actual VIX it means traders expect more vol to come and are not jumping all over shorting it.
Yeah, everyone knows vol mean-reverts so that's priced in but it can also cluster and stay high. Even if vol starts to come down; if the term structure stays in backwardation or even flat-ish, you're not going to make much or anything at all. Go back and look at SVIX/SVXY during covid. The long vol etp's will get back to ATL's quicker than SVIX/SVXY will get back to ATH's when things calm down again.
I unloaded my SVXY shares about 20 minutes ago. I think the risk-reward balance for the open session favors the downside, opposite to how I felt yesterday.
SVXY is only -0.5x the VIX, SVIX is -1x
Okay, so on a day like today where the VIX is at 46, you would buy SVXY correct? Als, other than the price, what is the difference between SVXY and SVIX? I’ve been mildly successful swing-trading alot of the Leveraged Single Stock ETFs and Inverses like SMCL, SMST. Made a decent trade today on ROBN( Hood Market 2x ETF) and on the Stock Twits Board for ROBN, a poster said he went with SVIX instead of ROBN yesterday morning. Just wondering when you would utilize SVIX? Thanks for your help.
put down 10% of my roth ira today (rest is cash). think i will hold off buying until vix gets into the 60s+. also spent some time digging into SVXY (which doesnt have the vix call hedge, but was active during march 2020) https://imgur.com/a/EXkfwth. it looks like if you bought it when vix was in the 40s, it would cost \~20, which was then down to \~14 at peak vix 10 days later. it would only return to 20 at the end of 2020 (which is way outperformed by equities). so yeah timing is pretty important here.