MSN

zTeve_0

It's been on my mind this week. AOL, MSN or Yahoo could have been the internet but things change - Google was far superior as a search, but now it is basically ...not so superior. Amazon failed to make a profit or 10yrs building name recognition, or dominance if you will, as they start profiting they might fall out of favour. I like the idea of LTC as they seem under valued to me compared to BTC. There should be an arbitrage with Litecoin in down markets and a protective value play in BTC in hot markets. Same for the Ethereum side of things, there will be profitable shitcoin plays in near future. Sure f your strategy was to buy Walmart stock you could have done well, but a diversified portfolio was a better play if you didn't know which large cap would be the best. From time to time something comes along that shake things up so stay dialed in.

Baecchus

You got downvoted for pissing both sides at once but yes, that's exactly it. Priceless insight by MSN as usual.

Baecchus

MSN says asset that performed well will keep performing well. Priceless insight.

RattlesnakeGR

Very good point OP Sometimes isneay too early. I still remember seeing people using smartphone apps for chatting and even before that a minority of people was using MSN messenger,mIRC etc. I was very young since I was born early '90s.

identiifiication

So why is MSN advertising it. Why is Jennifer Aniston doing this? Is MSN trying to scam us?

iterativ

I think the "right" was the proprietary MS network, instead, MSN or something. If I remember it correctly.

aTalkingDonkey

thats like saying Telegram is a terrible app because MSN failed. Tell me specifically why this iteration of the idea is bad.

Dutchsteam

This seems like a shill for machine learning algorithms/bots. It resembles the MSN page adverts… “Doctors are angry at him!”

Ok-Associate7470

Twitter has beaten MS news multiple times, usually more then not actually. And is posting better facts lately the MSN. Though there is a lot of garbage. That least you have 2 stories and 1 with the real one. Unlike MSN...

gwes1979

Unlike Sam Bank-MSN Fried, Steve Jobs was fired from Apple... Most hugely successful business owners have succeded by falling forward. Obviously I do not trust him but so far CDC has proved to be a well run business. So please stop pretending to be a Sherlock when your really being a Karen 😘

Specimen_7

It’s also like if they had 9 news sources they were using for the study, 8 of them tell you up front they lean left lol. In a study of FOX, CNN, NBC, and MSN, 75% of all media was liberal!!! Yeah, because those channels brand themselves as liberal lol doesn’t differentiate between actual progressive politics and being a corporate whore though, an important distinction.

leviathynx

That MSN article was wack. It was like 20 words and then an enormous wall of advertising.

neo101b

MSN is a shit show for comments, its worse than world news for banning people. Say the wrong thing that could be innocent and not insulting, ban hammer time.

Zealousideal_Neck78

MSN is blaming China now to steer attention away from the Whitehouse.

murghph

^ link requires MSN app on phones to read

sansamlol

Didn't even know MSN existed still lol

AnusWithEbola

Daaamn I didn't know [MSN.com](https://MSN.com) still existed

Baecchus

Someone needs to bring back MSN Messenger.

Squeezitgirdle

Used to build websites for firearm businesses. One of my clients whom I hated regularly used racist phrases as promo codes. He was featured in yahoo and MSN news multiple times for it. Thanks to getting featured in the news for being a giant douchebag, he made insane amounts of money (I had access to his transactions). The best publicity we can find bitboy is no publicity. If someone mentions or asks about him, present facts, but don't volunteer information, imo.

pbjclimbing

This was released 12-1-21. MSN is a little behind in their crypto news…

ArtyHobo

Figures, right! But to hedge my bets I'm gonna be a risk-mitigating hobo and add some AOL & MSN Messenger to my portfolio.

IWillKillPutin2022

* anything on MSN

SmallReflection2552

Pretty much anything on MSN related to crypto was so 6 mos ago.

PiickleRiickk

Damn MSN used to be the superstar of the era, but now it's a piece of history.

MaeronTargaryen

If this article taught me anything, it’s that MSN still exists

renatomello

There's nothing new on your first observation, playing online games while chatting is at least as old as Skype and MSN. Discord is just better at it and is much better than anything any "metaverse" can provide today and in the near future. I refuse to even argue about the price that useless things were sold after what we all saw this past bull market

Ur_mothers_keeper

There's a trend you'll with these articles by big "influential" finance publications and big news firms like Yahoo, CNBC, MSN etc. They frame everything that happens in crypto in terms of some government, wall street or otherwise entrenched institution activity. They're building a *narrative*, that the existing institutions control this market, that their decisions are of the most consequence. They're all rags, doing this on purpose to maintain their influence. The price of ethereum went down as a result of uncertainty due to the merge. Its "buy the rumor sell the news." It has nothing to do with an SEC declaration.

Lefty2Gunz81

Don't forget to tell all your friends on MSN Messenger when they come online!

Siccors

Based on your Facebook comment we went to school at roughly same time. After school a significant part directly went to MSN to keep talking (no idea what we had to say after seeing each other at school already :P ). Hyves was a big thing long before Facebook. So was stuff from online gaming to finding information.

Dilokilo

You are trying to compare Crypto vs Internet or Facebook wich make zero sense. So many Ancestors like Yahoo, MSN died, others took their places. But some of you think that crypto is a "tech" wich is not... Blockchain is the tech, crypto is just a side effect and extreme volatity associated to it makes no sense at all. When you invest in yahoo, Facebook or whatever you invest in something already existing that need to develop. You actually own a share of the company and then profit from its profits... When you buy most of crypto, you buy what ? The right to vote ? Lol... You only buy the right to sell it to another guy for a higher price. Of the few and really useful use of blockchain and crypto is Brave wich reward you for receiving ads that yoy might like instead of being robbed by Google of your privacy wich is sold to some companys and make ptofit on your back...

coinsRus-2021

I still remember everyone saying “AOL iand MSN are here to stay”

Andyham

Still dont get why anyone would care about or buy these NFT avatars for their reddit profile. It all gives me MSN Messenger vibes.

EffUtube

If you really where an investor you would have a price and time target. Saying idiotic stuff like "I am in it for long term" is like saying "I am gonna win the lottery next time". You have no idea, no one does, if crypto is an ICQ or MSN messenger. All you have is what the devs tell you, and they want your money so.

Mundane-Farm-4117

It can happen, look at some of the biggest names in the tech world. AIM and MSN messenger have been replaced by Whatsapp. AskJeeves and Yahoo were replaced by Google. Bebo, Myspace were overtaken by Facebook Nokia one of the biggest phone brands is now nowhere to be seen.

coinsRus-2021

Or they could both be as relevant as AOL and MSN in 10 years

broskie94

Yeah, I noticed on MSN has DOW and Nasdaq as bearish news due to the sentiment, while both are seeing their best days in months. DOW is up 1.63% and Nasdaq is up 2.89%. I don't get it honestly.

XBB32

I remember AltaVista, AOL and Yahoo... I remember MSN messenger... I remember DailyMotion... Kazaa...Napster... People said P2P? Naaaahhhh Still used today 😂 When I read comments in here, I realize there's full of neinsager, like we love to say in Switzerland.

Siccors

>What I do remember was ppl talked about the internet in that same fashion back in 99. Bullshit. Or well, I can of course not know how people around you talked about it, but I am going to claim bullshit anyway. It is the same bullshit used again and again by some here. "It is just like the early internet". No it is not. Around that time it was getting adopted rapidly. People spend significant amount of money on it. But not to sell it later to other suckers, but to simply use it. Yes dial up was expensive, but it was incredibly useful. And the moment ADSL came out (around that time), half my class at school ran to MSN messenger after school. Stop trying to rewrite history, it is nothing like the early internet.

FallingDiscontent

Exactly this. It's concerning the number of people I know who want to be financially free but haven't worked a full-time job a day in their life (or some who were briefly employed for a year or so). They got by living with parents all throughout their 20s and early 30s and it's always a narrative about not being having a boss and being told what to do. It's such an unrealistic luxury mindset. Honestly, I don't know if it's laziness or narcissism, but people need boring ole bosses and normal ass jobs. Our society functions better and the easy money like crypto has created an out (or illusion of an out) to actually working a job. And crypto isn't completely at fault for this. There's also other means of money like content creation on social media or YouTube. Half the time you don't even have to be original. It's probably better to not be honestly. You see it all the time with the biggest influencers in the space, they just talk into a camera on the topic of the day, essentially functioning as the YouTube video equivalent of an MSN headline. Personally, I think it's destructive for our society that money comes so easy. But has it created any better experiences? If anything, it's buried talent in the real world because if you're not playing to an algorithm or you're doing something unique and creative that requires hours of dedication, well good luck with that. And then with crypto it's worse. The stupidity of the life we live in, the fact that this magic internet money is valued so highly, yet it's so risky. The value doesn't match half the assets it's attached to, yet people are pouring more in like it's fine and not a bubble that's going to burst. Why are people so against jobs anyway? Did they really feed themselves the fantasy that they are entitled to do whatever they so desire with their time or that money should be easily available for everyone? This life is about survival, you have to be doing something. Do you think that because you were the cute child of your mother and father that you don't have to work a job like anyone else? Stop being so lazy and acting like crypto is your ticket to not working. Time to get a real job like the rest of us and be grateful to work it each day of your grueling life.

raphanum

It was just the only person MSN could find to help spread their fud

Dogekaliber

Clickbait Trash MSN behind a paywall. Worst post ever!

danhauk

As someone who was the same age in 2001 I completely agree. Granted, I didn’t follow markers at all - I was too busy skateboarding and being a delinquent - but I was talking to my friends all the time on AIM/ICQ/MSN. And downloading music and fake celebrity nudes on Limewire and Kazaa. It definitely didn’t feel like there was any uncertainty about the internet going away. Not quite mainstream, but the GET protocol is doing cool stuff with NFT concert tickets. https://www.get-protocol.io/ I feel like I’ve also seen some big acts or sports teams offering free NFT collectables with the purchase of a normal ticket. Maybe the next bull run (if we have one) we’ll see more mainstream adoption in the ticketing space.

bitcoin_islander

ICQ and MSN chat

Small-Independent-60

I was looking at MSN markets and their charts must be messed up. Google shows 1 CNY holding at 0.000008 BTC. Going to try to post a screenshot here...

Wegaziju

Booze and holidays, that's where I lost my fresh new MSN password ....

prosenl1

Been a while since I was on MSN.

Siccors

>Bro at this rate I’ve just started comparing it as we’re investing in the new internet twenty’s years ago it was a scam and fad crypto is the newest thing to take it’s place I buy and hold and patiently wait. I assume you are less than roughly 20 years old? Can we please stop these attempts at rewriting history. 20 years ago we were all using e-mail, MSN messenger, we got a better search engine than Altavista (Google), hell we didn't have to use dial up anymore, but were switching to cable/ADSL internet, which allowed online gaming without making our parents (or yourself) broke :P . There is a reason many people were paying for internet by the minute 25+ years ago (dial up): It was insanely useful.

Siccors

Yeah indeed, and quite frankly I see so often in crypto circles people trying to rewrite history of the internet. Around 2000 the internet was growing rapidly. Don't pin me on the exact year, but around that time right after school, we all logged onto MSN messenger. We already all had Hotmail accounts (with crappy sizes, until in 2004 gmail was launched with suddenly huge mailbox sizes). Of course there were people afraid of it. But the vast majority was rapidly adopting it. Hell why do you think we (or all our parents :P ), were happily paying dial up costs? And even more happy when ADSL arrived. Because it was extremely useful.

down_vote_magnet

Who even gets their news from MSN?

MaximumSandwich5

Surprised MSN still exists lol. Made me feel nostalgic, the good old days on MSN Messenger

Ur_mothers_keeper

Lol that's not what he said. Clown ass MSN at it again. Go read his actual blog post. He said that a stablecoin cannot handle a downturn if the mechanism is dependent on growth, if it can't handle the userbase going down to 0 without losing peg.

gonzaloetjo

I agree it’s quite important. But it’s early and more effective stuff will gain momentum. MySpace and MSN had plenty of network effect. I still think eth is super valuable and will continue to be. But thinking it’s the only road is the same issue bitcoin maxis have imo.

Valdorff

Yes and no. AOL never managed to come up with a good way to lock people in. They tried to do the email thing (but you could still have an AOL email), the AIM thing (same), and the homepage thing (but weren't unique - most news providers, eg, were on both AOL homepage and MSN). ETH has value actually locked to a degree. Liquidity locked to ETH would be a bear to move elsewhere. Devs and auditors that have become experts on Ethereum would need to rework skills for most other chains (there are a couple fully EVM compatible exceptions). Network security in blockchain literally depends on market cap, so even an exact clone is less secure. Finally, being known is critical - you can copy an NFT's jpeg, but the "value" is currently ascribed to real owner on the real blockhain - for most big NFT collections right now, the 'real' blockchain is usually ethereum. Bac to your metaphor: it's not pets.com or AOL. There's some chance it's friendster, and there's some chance it's Facebook. I'm betting on FB-like in the metaphor... time will tell!

Mundane-Farm-4117

The MSN messenger days... Where you could get a gf in 5 mins

CryptoLyrics

>"I like investing in things that have valuable output. The value of companies is based on how they make great products." Great products like Internet Explorer, Microsoft Bob, Windows Phone, Zune, MSN, and Clippy!

Ima_Wreckyou

This is the guy who's company tried to abuse their power over their desktop share to push their own proprietary MSN instead of the open Internet. When that didn't work, they tried to abuse that power again and push proprietary extension to open web standards via their desktop and internet explorer. He was never a friend of open source technology or open networks, but an actual enemy to those movements and ideas. I'm not surprised

powellquesne

MSN was launched late but became the most popular messenger. AIM got Microsoftened.

electrikoptik

I think it depends where you grew up. MSN messenger was outside of the US more popular than AIM. Just like how apple messenger is insanely popular in the US but here in europe almost nobody uses it, we mostly use whatsapp here.

devinfitz949

Who tf used MSN messenger? 😂 AIM >>>

electrikoptik

Amma tell all my friends about this on MSN messenger.

rainmaker_101

I feel Nfts are more like email providers then. Many options available (used to be 1 email per internet plan) provider but more or less similar core function. Some will rise and a few will win. Yahoo consolidated the market with the idea of only 1 address, Hotmail came out with more ideas and MSN. Ultimately Outlook got commercial market while Gmail got the consumer share. Obviously both had other key products that helped drive the growth. Right now we know Nfts use cases and function but utility is mainly on jpegs. Furthermore, all of it is scattered across different chains which is irritating and complicated for general consumers. Just need that consolidation phase which depends on who's gonna win each sector.

Siccors

>the average joe was sceptical about the internet back in the 90s so maybe you were the very few that didn’t but there’s a reason in 2000 the bubble burst because the tech was cool but nobody was using it Wait what? Are you serious? Yeah there was a dotcom bubble where everyone had to do something with the internet, but that doesn't change a shitload of people were using the tech. In 2000 we had Limewire already, lots of people were using that to fill their PC with digital STDs. We had MSN messenger. We had Hotmail (apparently Gmail came in 2004, since I remember what a big deal its high storage was, pretty much everyone was using email back then). Sure as with any new technology people had to see the advantages of it (or not, many new technologies fail of course). That takes time. But you are seriously rewriting history here by acting like no one was using the internet in 2000's, or that no one saw the benefit of it. The internet was back then already well on its way to becoming a standard household thing. Hell, an Age of Empires (2) and Starcraft 1 were there also, including its multiplayer modes.

infopocalypse

Exactly the kind of reporting I'd expect from MSN lol

catherder9000

That out of touch old dinosaur gave over $41.5 billion of his personal wealth to the Gates Foundation, then turned his remaining $40 billion back into $146 billion *cash*. Then that old dinosaur bought $51 billion worth of his various primary sotcks and another $3.6 billion of his own Berkshire Hathaway in January of this year. That old dinosaur doesn't have a clue about technology (his Berkshire Hathaway owns 121 million shares of HP ($4.7 billion), $157 billion worth of Apple stock (5.41% of the company), bought 14.7 million shares of Blizzard before the MSN buyout and netting himself $1.19 billion). He should take the advice of all the HODLers in this subreddit then he'd be *really* rich! You guys are fucking *hilarious*.

EffUtube

I wouldnt call 80 dapps in 5 years growth tho. But sure, you are technicly right. Its more then 0. Adoption? Thats subjective. To me adoption is a real world use. And thats none for this chain so far. To me its a big pointer. While it can be manipulated, so can everything else. Whats the point of being "better" when no one uses it? Betamax vs VHS, DVD vs Blueray, Minidisc vs CD, ICQ vs MSN. But also Cardano isnt even better by any measurement then anyone else so theres that.

n1ghsthade

Microsoft Chat? Is that like the predecessor of MSN?

n1ghsthade

Limewire back in the game! That brings back some memories, nice. Will Napster and Kazaa also return? Bringing back the vibes of downloading mp3s with viruses and distorted songs. Next, they will reintroduce MSN Messenger on the web3 blockchain? 

jreyn1993

MSN messenger has a special place in my heart

jreyn1993

What the fuck MSN is still a thing?

hailcorbitant

AOL MSN Yahoo Even Facebook Plenty of tech giants have fallen from dominance.

ArtyHobo

Haha yeah that was it, those were my preference post napster, wasn't a huge fan of lime wire. Soulseek was mostly for niche catalogues of aphex twin style electronica lol. Winamp playlists. MSN Messenger. Glory dayz

Charming-Arachnid256

Whatever the MSN says is bought and paid for..

cbaek

Come over to MSN messenger it’s where the cool kids are at

Drewbowser

Crypto YouTube and Twitter has the same names we used to use on MSN messenger back in the day.

Annual_Elderberry736

Next up MSN messenger to release a coin

VonRansak

What is MSM, I see it a lot. No clue if they are talking about MSN or [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/multimedia-search-and-mining/](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/group/multimedia-search-and-mining/) , or something else.

girlshero

MSN was really hot too before gmail

acegarrettjuan

Love this. Very succinct and well thought out explanation. If only CNN and MSN would have her on.

mic_droo

that's the MSN, not the MSM

Prudent_Media_4067

MSN article should sound something like this- Crypto holders are Hitler Loving Racists who want Putin to win.

Alt-Season

Mainstream Media is the worst. I'm not just talking about Fox. CNN, ABC, NBC, MSN, etc. All garbage and post manipulative stories to propel their narrative.

trooomps

Next coin, MSN Crypto messenger

NotRyanPace

Lol thats like naming your kid AOL or MSN

davidoij

haven’t presented or successfully explained one fact so far. spew opinion based on your personal experience and pass them off as fact, then point fingers at “conspiracy theorists” being incapable of debating? Like this has been a debate and not you simply wanting to sound like you know more than everyone else. then immediately turn around and post the first MSN article you see that partially supports your point like a 16 year old scrambling to finish a paper on time. Go present your ground breaking sociopolitical commentary to a group that cares and this garbage

KevSanders

“Despite some more negative rhetoric about crypto coming from Democrats, a lot of people within the crypto industry consider themselves Democrats, and they’d rather focus their efforts on bringing people over to our side,” Whirty said. Crypto industry poised to play larger role in midterm campaigns. MSN

Andyham

Hear hear. NFT is awesome and will have fantastic use cases in the future. But what it us currently used for is just garbage and is really offputting even to people who are "into" crypto. What I dont understand is why do all the pictures have to be some futuristic sci-fi theme, or pixelart avatar that reeks of MSN emojies (still baffles me that emojies have become as mainstream as they have though, and noone uses it more then the 60+ generations today). Its painful now, but society will find a way to give it a form that becomes mainstream. In the meantime Im choosing to just ignore everything I see about NFT. I like Bitcoin. I like other smart contract L1s, and I make some bets on various L2s as well. Thats enough for me.

a-typical_user

Dear mom today a stranger on the internet said they like me. Actually this feels nice thanks you too. First time this has ever happened since MSN messenger.

fallenkeith2018

I still liked MSN / Windows live messenger more than Discord tbh

CryptOCD99

MSN, lol.

benjamari214

I feel exactly the same. Pretty much every mass adopted technology had predecessors that failed due to either limitations of technology or a bad marketing campaign. Smart phones were around 15 years or so before iphone, microsoft made them and they flopped. Various social media companies came and went before social media became a big driving force in the world. MSN and Teamspeak came before discord (both successful in their own ways, but nothing compared to discord) etc etc

karakter98

Ok, Ethereum is cool and all but… Did anyone else know MSN was still a thing?

mortymania

I'm just a man in the middle of that trying to make a little money in this expensive world. I don't really think about holding anything for over 10 years or longer. Could be dead in 5 so planning that far ahead isn't for me. I wouldn't also like to assume the companies currently holding my money will still exist in 10 years 😐 not everything last forever. Just like MSN chat...

diamandtestees

😂😂 I remember this from the MSN days!

WheresTheButterAt

MSN.com is still a thing?

jreyn1993

MSN still exists?!?

ChemicalGreek

Wasn’t MSN already dead?

lordofming-rises

What is MSN?

Sadboiiy

The article is from TheStreet, which is behind a paywall. MSN you don't have to pay to read most articles

Notorious_Ape

MSN.com? You.. You reminded me of my childhood

RelationshipOk3565

right and also MSN leaked the "news" on purpose to get out ahead of the narrative