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I'm not going to spend money on mining ASICs. I'd have to power and cool those along with the amount of time it'd take me to break even. I will never mine with specialized hardware. Whatever money I'd spend on specialized hardware, I'd just use to buy the coin. If I was still PC gaming, then I'd consider occasionally mining for what is reasonable with a GPU. Monero is CPU minable but my hardware is either low power laptop TDP spec'ed or it's a 10+ year old desktop CPU. Not worth it over just spending the cost of power into the coin directly
I had a raspberry pi 4 with a 1 TB SSD running Umbrel node, works great. But I'm gonna set up a new node on Proxmox on my new mini server PC. It's a MiniPC with a N5100 CPU (5 watts TDP), 16gb ram and 1 TB HDD. Gonna give the node 750 gb, and 4 GB of ram. 750 gb should do fine for another 3 to 5 years
You are bringing up already debunked things and using them as facts. Either research and provide rebuttals based on new material that hasn’t been debunked or this conversation ends here. I do not have the time or patience to deal with someone I have to spoon feed and correct constantly with info that’s widely available. > That example is to show how the community and other miners can react to a situation where a part of a network decides to censor transactions on Ethereum. So a straw man then. Regardless, reality is that a ton of blocks are censored already. Do this argument is not only incorrect, but non-existent. > It doesn´t matter how long some bullshit has been taught and repeated on the internet, it doesn´t make the bullshit come true. I am pointing this out as it is a time period of dev discussion and theory you should go back and research. You are constantly bringing up already debunked topics to push your agenda. This is why people are getting frustrated debating with you. It’s akin to debating the math behind going to outer space and you arguing that the earth is flat so the math is wrong. No one wants to debate the entire premise all over again. It’s annoying. > eh? Any validator you bribe can simply by more ETH as well to increase his stake, what a nonsensical argument. This point was brought up as it’s one of the oldest ways of arguing pos vs PoW. It clearly shows you how you introduce more attack vectors by tying the asset itself to consensus (dangerous). The price of BTC does fuck all to consensus. At many times in BTC life span the cost to mine was more than the cyst if simply buying the token and yet the consensus method remained decentralized. Let’s take a look at it costing money to stake ETH. Would you ever stake ETH if it provided negative returns? Probably not, with your stake also losing block space dominance it would over time become even less viable to continue doing so. So the “delegators” decrease and the strength of the “validators” increase. Increasing centralization. With current validator dominance and 32 eth entry fee, this is. Death spiral for ETH. While BTC this happens every year or two and it cuts along like it’s another day of doing business. Now let’s look at the scenario where ETH is worth very little. The stranglehold decreases from the validator perspective but the security ETH touts from monetary premium is gone. Someone could come buy up enough eth to take over the staking supply. In BTC this can’t happen. I must remind you that BTC has been worth 10 cents, $250, $2500 and ,$25,000. At no point in time was BTC centralized due to mining being profitable/unprofitable. Bribery attacks are just one of the first few ways to simply show the cost of tying the asset to consensus. It would take me 10 pages to sit here and explain all the attack vectors that open up from it. You thinking bribery attacks are “weird” just shows me you have no understanding of how these consensus methods work and was a super simple concept to show you how you have missed even the basic discussions. One last thought experiment. If crypto didn’t exist, and you were to launch BTC or eth, what consensus method would you pick? I certainly wouldn’t take the consensus method that allows my chain to be taken over by a first mover with some cash. That would be sillly. I would launch by telling miners I have a chain that is secured by you guys. Not secured by the amount of cash I can back it with. > Of course you can bribe miners. We are not holy saints from fairytale land lol Give me enough money to make up for my expected losses plus an additional profit, and here we go! Which client should I run? Another complete misunderstanding of how this all works. Bribing a validator is much different than bribing a miner. Even if you meant pools, it would take an insane amount of money to bribe 51% of the hashrate, then you have to sustain that 51% costing even more as not only can new hardware come online to fight you, you also have to constantly keep your captured hash from simply moving away from you. You bribe a validator and you have them for life. In both instances you still need to deal with the nodes which one half will simply form away from you while the other half can only slash you if you act up and don’t have longest chain dominance. > Eh? You short the coin with the same effect, mining becomes more competitive, miners drop out because they earn less reward than what they pay for electricity. Coin isn’t tied to consensus. Doesn’t matter. BTC has actually been close to $0 and still provided decentralization. > LOL and good luck shorting an Ethereum validator until we notice something rofl. Ethereum has to go down to 100USD for electricity to become more expensive in one year than the reward a validator receives for his 32ETH stake. Calculate it, I will wait. Use an Intel NUC with a 15W TDP cpu for you calculation. So Binance, kraken and coinbase can come and save you by buying up the shorts? Sounds super decentralized to me! Because those are the main validators that would “find out”. > Wait, I will do it for you. Lets say the entire system needs 30W and electricity is… lets be generous… 0,50USD per kwh That´s 0.030kwhx24hx365daysx0.5USD/kwh = 131,40USD per year electricity cost. > A validator with 32ETH earns 1.1096 ETH per year in staking reward based on the current daily income of 0.00304 ETH. You are finally providing some sort of sensible discussion. Except it’s only because you are using outside economies for security of the consensus. Which is what BTC already does. PoS only proceed this when the asset is $100 USD. Which would tank the actual security of the consensus by making it so cheap to take over the chain. > ETH can be shorted to 10% of its current price and barely anyone would notice. > Short Bitcoin and see what happens. Hash rate is already dropping right now and the first miners have already gone bankrupt. BTC could be shorted to $0 and it would still provide decentralization. It was at $0 in its intact and was still “decentralized” and did what it intended to do. Crazy what history will show you. Lastly, any new coin, let’s take TON for example, will start off PoW and convert to PoS. Why? Because of the consensus being tied to the asset is dangerous when it’s dirt cheap. If the asset heads to 0 the chain is worthless in PoS. Much like how a Ponzi scheme works with the need to take in money (asset) to boost returns (security) to pay off previous investors.
>Ghash back in the day proves you wrong. Not only that, there have been ahandful of mining pools that either aren’t competitive with theirrewards, or were subject to MITM attacks. Which again, shows you arewrong because the miners left those pools in droves. oh wait, you are right, i read ops post again, he meant that miners leave the **pool**,not the **network**. Alright, my bad, that part of my response makes no sense then. >MEV is not a good thing just FYI That example is to show how the community and other miners can react to a situation where a part of a network decides to censor transactions on Ethereum. Well, and from here on I have to say, you started strong, but now your argumentation becomes really weird. >since this PoS/PoW discussion started back in 2016/17 It doesn´t matter how long some bullshit has been taught and repeated on the internet, it doesn´t make the bullshit come true. >and I sure as fuck can’t bribe miners as someone could just go out and buy more after taking my bribe. eh? Any validator you bribe can simply by more ETH as well to increase his stake, what a nonsensical argument. Of course you can bribe miners. We are not holy saints from fairytale land lol Give me enough money to make up for my expected losses plus an additional profit, and here we go! Which client should I run? >Additionally, I can’t short a physical miner. Eh? You short the coin with the same effect, mining becomes more competitive, miners drop out because they earn less reward than what they pay for electricity. LOL and good luck shorting an Ethereum validator until we notice something rofl. Ethereum has to go down to 2USD for electricity to become more expensive in one year than the reward a validator receives for his 32ETH stake. Calculate it, I will wait. Use an Intel NUC with a 15W TDP cpu for you calculation. Wait, I will do it for you. Lets say the entire system needs 30W and electricity is... lets be generous... 0,50USD per kwh That´s 0.030kwhx24hx365daysx0.5USD/kwh = 131,40USD per year electricity cost. A validator with 32ETH earns 1.1096 ETH per year in staking reward based on the current daily income of 0.00304 ETH. ETH can be shorted to 10% of its current price and barely anyone would notice. Short Bitcoin and see what happens. Hash rate is already dropping right now and the first miners have already gone bankrupt. So yeah, that argumentation makes no sense at all. >There’s just way more attacks Oh really? How many times was ETH contentiously attacked in the last five years, lets say since mid 2017, compared to Bitcoin? ;) I will wait. >the feasibility of ETH being a cryptoCURRENCY has diminished with the implementation of PoS. Based on what metric? sources please. What I see is gas prices going back to steady predictable levels like we haven´t seen them since 2017. >I can’t bribe the top walllet holders in BTC Is .... that why we have twitter whale bots that warn everyone when BTC whales move their coins? Yeah, that argument doesn´t reflect reality I am afraid. >just you chuckle fucks that think will ever be a currency I never claimed any of that, do you need some fresh air?
Yeah the engineering details aren't clear, likely you'd need to be a customer to get the full specs. I doubt they're buying Bitmain chips and reselling them, Bitmain can barely keep up with the demand due to supply chain issues and that just wouldn't be a smart business choice for Intel. Here's a blog post about the team behind the chip. [https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/how-small-intel-team-built-blockchain-chip.html#gs.kmeokf](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/how-small-intel-team-built-blockchain-chip.html#gs.kmeokf) I'd need to do more market research on that, but I feel like 2TH/s just doesn't have enough value prop outside of strictly learning how BTC mining works. The cost to manufacture and all that would come into play there. Cooling could be tackled on 2 fronts. Maybe allow the chips to run a bit hotter while still remaining well below there max TDP with out of the box cooling with a slightly lower hash rate yes. People can then increase the cooling themselves to unlock better performance, similar to how CPU cooling has different levels.
You're barking up the wrong tree with your GPUs. See whattomine.com For TDP, first we'd need to know your heat loss and the delta T between in and out. For example, if you measured the temperature inside and outside when you went to bed and when you woke up, we could have a measurent of the losses; then you could start your mining and do the se measurement, and we could estimate the losses as a function of the in-out delta T and based on the heat gain from your mining. That would let you see at what temperature outdoors you would start to get cold again based on running that ~500w of mining.
Yes and no. There are miners that take good care of their cards - especially big mining operations. Then there are the mining bros, which defer needed repasting and allow dust to cake up. If you're lucky they pointed a box fan at the rig after weeks over overheating. Personally I'm in for buying mining gpus, but only for lower TDP cards. Forget 3090 or 3080. And I'm going to look for a miner that has a ton, and has at least taken some effort to clean the card. Even then, I'm prepared to repaste, and will only buy at a price where it makes sense if I'm burned on the transaction.
Mining GPUs are almost always undervolted and run below TDP, should be fine. I have not once heard of a GPU that was actually damaged by mining. Worst case is maybe having to swap out the fans.
To properly size a power supply for a rig, you need to add the total TDP for every card. It won’t use that much power while mining, but you need to account for driver resets that cause the cards to pull significantly more wattage (it WILL happen). That is your safety net. I would guess your total TDP to be around 1300 watts including the system power (fans, processor, etc). That includes all the GPUs you mentioned. Two good 750 watt PSUs will cover that safely. Don’t mistake the efficiency rating (bronze, gold, platinum, etc) for quality. My first rig was 6 1060 6GB powered by one 850 watt and one 750 watt PSUs (a bit overkill). Both are evga bq (bronze) series. They’ve been going strong for 5 years. I’d buy a good quality bronze PSU over an unknown gold or platinum PSU any day. The biggest struggle most people run into when building a rig is the lack of PCIe power cables, so make sure you pay attention to how many cables you’re getting on whatever PSU you choose. Avoid using sata or molex to power anything other than fans. Sata power almost always ends with a meltdown or fire.
tldr; Overclocking your GPU while mining has many benefits, the major one being the increased hash rate along with a lower TDP or power used. This makes your GPUS more efficient, mining more coins while using less power. Overclocking also lowers the GPU temps, both the dye temp and the memory temp. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
tldr; The 3080Ti is the most efficient and has the highest daily profit per day for mining Ravencoin. The 3070Ti makes it to the #3 spot with an average hash rate of 39.5mH/s on the KawPow algorithm with a TDP of 250 watts. The 1660Ti is able to get 13.3mh/s using 90 watts, bringing in $0.57 per day. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
max 30W more I think. But when you mine you actually underclock the core of the card and overclock the memory. So the actual power draw is perhaps 100W lower than the max spec. My 3080 only uses 210W or so mining. Max TDP is specced at 320W
Yes, it's normal. The RTX 3070 does around 60-63 MH/s on Ethereum. It's also normal that it uses more power, since it's a desktop part and has a higher TDP. ​ And it's normal for hashrate to decrease if you set the power lower.
You'll burn out the card faster from gaming. It's not uncommon for gamers to push cards up to 85C and memory junction up to 110C while gaming. This isn't exactly a good temp to be running anything, better yet something which pushes the cards' TDP.
This is a decent level laptop. You can get a budget gaming laptop for a much lower price and make the same hashrate. I’m not sure if yours was the pro but where I am Lenovo legion 5 pro 3060 is about double the price of an Acer nitro 5 3060 95W TDP. Payback is significantly improved due to the lower entry cost and I get 42 MH/s. You gotta do your research on which ones have good cooling too etc. Nice to have a laptop available when I need that’s paying itself off when I’m not using it ☺️
Probability doesn't mean much when network difficulty changes. Also, if you're mining ERGO, you can set the power consumption to about 60% of what the card TDP is. Much less fan noise and much less heat!
250w TDP.. Holy shit.. . Right now mining ravencoin 3080s are doing around 50 on kapow and 110ish on daggerhashimoto at 250ish watts... So if that's the case it's on par with others... Problem is a 3080 retails at 700... But your prob limited to obtaining 1 of those a month... So most likely 1400-2k a card....
tldr; A retailer in Dubai is selling Nvidia's flagship CMP 170HX cryptocurrency mining GPU for $4,300. It's the first time that a retailer is publicly selling it. The GPU has a 250W TDP and 8GB of HBM2e memory across a 4,096-bit memory interface. It delivers up to 164 MHps of Ethereum mining performance. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
Yeah but that card has a 250W TDP versus what for 5 x 6600XT's?
MacBook Pro is becoming more and more purely focused on pro use. The GPU inside the new MacBook Pro is in between a 3070 and a 3080 in terms of compute (likely not in terms of game performance but it should be up there) with up to 64gb of unified memory and all in a 60w TDP package. I don’t think there is anything on the market that can match that kind of power with a cpu and GPU combined only pulling 60 watts. Even people who aren’t fans of apple have real healthy respect for the new MacBook pros. PLUS apple finally brought back MagSafe charging which is without a doubt the best charger on the market for a laptop, and they brought back hdmi and sd card slots so people won’t complain (rightfully so) about dongles.
You could maybe compile xmrig inside termux, or web mining via [moneroocean.stream](https://moneroocean.stream). Even then, it wouldn't be worth it. [moneroocean.stream](https://moneroocean.stream) tells me I get around 35-38 H/s, and apparently my Snapdragon 855 chip has a 5W TDP. Plugging the numbers in to a [calculator](https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculator?h=37.00&p=5&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=351978939565.00000000&r=2.15000000&er=0.00561618&btcer=47823.58710000&ha=H&hc=0.00&hs=0&hq=1) gives me a whopping $2.47 annually. That's not even mentioning pool fees/minimum thresholds etc. You would genuinely make more money selling the phones.
Right, cheapest APU's you can get A8-9600 or Ryzen 2200g on AMD side. You should be able to swap yours+cash for either one of those. They have lower TDP and more hash from your 1 card. In a long run, definitely worth it. Using AMD and NVIDIA cards on windows 10 is definitely a hassle. If you have a usb stick laying around check out HiveOS. You'll get more hash, less power draw and great compatibility. Not to mention ease of overclocking.
He has a geforce 1660 TI and gets 25MH/s (about 2 dollars a day currently). Mining in Nicehash (where you actually are just selling your hash power but get paid in BTC), so for the last couple months he's been mining when he doesn't play on it and has made a little over 100 bucks. Its not a high end laptop but its not low end either. I mine with my laptop (has a TDP limited 3060) and make around 3 dollars a day on it.
If you leave your computer on anyway even the minimum watts consumed is momey being eaten I mean some people game all day and use their max TDP just for entertainment but earning a dollar isnt justifiable lol unless you have solar panels but energy credits will give you more anyway lol
Grats you made a dollar in 24hours on a what? 300TDP graphics card? Lol
It cost like 5 cents of electricity to run a gaming laptop such a low TDP.
Exactly, CPUs these days are in 2 digit TDP or max 110 at peak compared to GPUs which are 400 to 500watts for a single unit and when you add in 2 or 3 than you know the rest.
I think overall carbon footprint of an entry machine is much lower than of even a altest of alt coin. Nowadays CPUs have much lower TDP along with SSDs and HDDs compared to power guzzling GPUs.
use nicehash to start, they have easiest entry and good guides later when you get s bit more technicall you csn move to something diferent wor of advice, dont go for max yeald, go for eficency, lovering your TDP to use les power and for your PC to run cooler, that 1$ more /day is not worth burning youe pc so keeping personal pc (not rig) in oround 60c for GPU and 70c for CPU is safe temps to run at
What you do with the part determines how much energy it chugs. Those parts will use more or less energy than the TDP based on the amount of load placed on them and how over/underclocked they are. You are misunderstanding the numbers you are reading.
I mine on a 1660ti gaming laptop. Run the CPU in power saving mode and GPU with lower TDP and memory overclock. Sits under 70°C with the whole system drawing about 90watts.
Depends on the laptop. A lot of the 3070 ones out right now have some overbuilt cooling solutions. the MSI raider an the HP Omen have some nutso fans that push metric craptons of air, at 6500rpm they can keep a fully loaded 125TDP 3070 under control at 50-55c they sound like a server though.
Maybe Ravencoin or Turtlecoin would yield more than power cost but might just break even. 3GB is too small for ehash DAG file. Mining on laptops GPUs is fine but watch heat. I downclock and use lower TDP. Ticks over staying silent and cool.
CPU mining isn't profitable on the consumer grade processors. Afaik, my Ryzen 7 2700X maybe churns out 0.40 cents per 24 hours which after considering the electricity cost of running such a high TDP cpu barely leaves you with breakeven. As for what coins you can mine, ETH is the most popular one. However, there are other algorithms that also produce other coins. I'd recommend looking at whattomine.com to see what can you mine using your hardware.
Antminer T19 hits at least 80TeraHash/s on 3150W. The fastest GPU on SHA-256 hit 865MegaHash, with a TDP of 375W. That's a fucking 40nm generation chip from 2011. There is no fucking way someone is mining bitcoin with a GPU. You'd go broke just trying to keep up with one dinky ASIC.
Which is roughly the TDP of the Intel I15 19700K.
Wow... \* If you use NiceHash you are not mining bitcoin \* Nicehash was released 2 years after 2012 \* A Radeon 580 (Best ethhash card back in the day by far) can get the same hashrate as a gtx 1080 at around half TDP, so it would be closer to your other fake numbers not 100 times less like you argue... \* The Radeon 580 came out in 2017 \* GPU mining stopped being profitable around 2013-2014 An those are only some of the things you said wrong...