BTC

AllCapNoBrake

Still more useful than BTC tho 

greyenlightenment

flat futures as always, the question is does BTC dump ?

MyCupO

Truth … so it’s like you have to jump on BTC early to make big money

greyenlightenment

BTC dump on sunday if futures down a tiny bit . often there is a delay between bad tariffs news on Saturday and market reaction Monday morning or Sunday night

ThouOne

BTC & Beekend futes already shrugging off tariff blanket, are tariffs considered a joke now? 😭

Low_Administration22

No. If Bitcoin loses to alt coins it makes the whole thing a joke. The only other alt that might work is XRP as supposedly it can work with BTC.

ztkraf01

The news broke yesterday. BTC is up 1.2% for the day

bug_Rub2770

BTC 5X etf

Cav829

Ever since WSB declared BTC dead, it keeps going up. Can you try the opposite, thanks.

Happy_Discussion_536

I wish there was a way MSTR goes bankrupt without BTC first tanking. But there may not be and that company definitely needs to go insolvent.

canwequitnow

I had a dream BTC fell below $60K. I have puts on MSTR expiring next week lol

SatisfactionTrick226

If BTC drops into the 30s K, Eth can go as far as 1K. But who knows!!

throwawaydonaldinho

I have never once owned or traded crypto. However, in a “nothing ever happens” back to normal soon trade Grayscale BTC ETF leaps might be the move.

Direct-Protection-81

How does this work for you after the reverse split, what's your share count and valuation on the position going forward, likewise I also see this being a long term play after BTC sees stability

Crazy_Donkies

no. 66.4k is the floor and we just need to wait. idgaf about BTC but that's just where it will sit for a bit. DCA or ignore it.

Stonklover6942O

Good luck my regarded friend owns 1 BTC and thinks it's going to 1 million because Saylor said some shit

OnionHeaded

I’ve gotten out of positions at good times but I’ve held a couple too long. I sadly can’t say I have anything wheeling at the moment. I am trying SLV but it’s kind of difficult 😅 making $$ but I don’t know that I can call it a wheel. Sometimes you may know it’s time to move on. I got out of QBTS SOFI perfectly and have nothing but good memories. They both reached a price that didn’t seem to be sustainable could be a sign to exit. I sold them close ATM, played around with assignment and pumping up big premium by extending the DTE and they both had gapped down. I think it was just rotating sectors so getting back in didn’t entice me. But MSTR I held far too long. I paid my rent snd bills 2025 but sold it all way to late and it was a real blind spot for me. If BTC hasn’t been ruined by the ETFs I will definitely get back but I do honestly believe the volatility has been fundamentally changed for both of those like BlackRock and their scum ilk “tamed” … they broke BTC spirit, I’ve been trying to stay on top of sector rotation and I think that could be a good determinant for picking or passing on a good wheel ticker. Don’t marry any stock even if it’s paying your rent. I’d love to hear what people are currently wheeling well. SLV is a shit show. Hahah

BarbellPadawan

I’ve literally never made money on a stock being shilled in here. Literally never. Now, I did make a shit ton of money from Thanksgiving-time 2024 through Q1 2025 with short market positions on MSTR, mostly naked short calls. That was one the was being shilled on here and I knew the run up to 500 was unsustainable and fools were paying >4x NAV of BTC holdings to buy a company that just holds BTC. Totally regarded. But those who FOMO’d and went long at or near 500 got their asses handed to them.

AllCapNoBrake

Still a better investment than BTC/MSTR https://preview.redd.it/tx9snitverkg1.png?width=395&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2cff8727491c9b9c12937f3b123d5afc6ac1dfa

orangeyougladiator

Market goes down 2% -> BTC goes down 10% Market recovers 1.5% -> BTC recovers 3% Repeat I like this cycle

Sea_Procedure_3471

I started my DCAing today. Gonna keep going until I die.  The way I see it. Crypto was 10-15 years to early, and now it’s 10-15 years just right. Shits about to get crazy in the financial world with how money is moved around and kept.  I’m going heavy with ETH, and SOL. I’m still not sure about BTC.. it maybe a real asset to hold, digitally… but, how will BTC survive quantum?  How could anything survive quantum. 

MuchConcentrate

I consider myself lucky then, since my biggest losses were on MSTU and BTC bought at ATH and from there i stopped with correct predictions.

jmc774

BTC looks like it wants to fly again

Moepenmoes

What is BTC's value even based on?

SignificanceLate7002

NAKA Completes Acquisition of BTC Inc and UTXO Management https://www.stocktitan.net/news/NAKA/nakamoto-inc-completes-acquisition-of-btc-inc-and-utxo-0szrzrm7ad6z.html

Top-Acadia-1936

Welp, didn’t use the $4k extra today, MADE MONEY ANYWAY (cries in down 30% on BTC).

ajibtunes

My wife think we should get into BTC 🤔

TheHyperboley

My entire micro cap watchlist is just following SPY like shitcoins follow BTC, yawn

Cav829

You guys are letting BTC outperform us. This is all your fault, bols.

Sweaty_Platypus69

You know market is so disconnected from reality that BTC - that magic internet money bitcoin is actually reflecting more on the reality side of the economy. BTC is barely trading at $67k while the rest of the indexes moon!

Hodgetwins32

This guy sold all his BTC at 1k lol

BetApprehensive8433

!banbet BTC 55k 14d

Top-Acadia-1936

BTC made me its BITCH

fire_alarmist

Buttcorn gunna take down the bankers that had to buy it on October 10th liquidity crash today, which will cause contagion in the banking industry and then all the institutions fake propping everything will scramble for liquidity and all the short squeeze stocks will go down 30%. Bookmark it. BTC to -7k EOM btw.

SkipinToTheSweetShop

when the govt dumps all gold and sells all debts for crypto, will they be using BTC or will they just use their own? And if they use their own, does that mean less or more demand for BTC?

DaemonTargaryen2024

1. Thank you, team black all the way lol. And watch Knight of the seven kingdoms if you haven't yet. 2. First: VOO and BTC are *not* available within 24 hours, it takes 1-3 days for ACH. But the real issue is when VOO drops 30-50% or BTC 50-90%. That's the risk of relying on market vehicles for emergencies. 3. You're right, it's not irresponsible to inquire. But it is irresponsible for your Plan A to be: "develop zero financial stability or money saving skills; rely on my *retired* parents if I lose my job". Falling back on parents should be like Plan C. * Don't get me wrong, it's great your parents would be there to help. It's great they're rich-ish enough to give you a good foundation: upbringing, education, starting money, etc. Don't squander that privilege by remaining so reliant on your parents as Plan A. * Lastly: I doubt you know for a fact that they have enough money (and have budgeted thusly, 10 years into their retirement) to take you in long term. People were out of work for *years* in 2008. Another recession, minor or major, *will* happen again, and you'll see 6+ bear markets in your lifetime. 4. By continuing to have one foot in the nest, IMO the harm to your emotional maturity/intelligence (and honestly your financial intelligence) will be greater than any gain you can achieve from an aggressive portfolio. Your 20s are the time to learn how to budget, how to not make stupid financial choices, or frankly how to *make* stupid choices and *learn* from them (this week there was a disaster of a thread on r/personalfinance where a guy who bought a new Mustang on $20/hr). 5. It's just a joke saying. You brushed past the EF and parental reliance (the whole point!) the same way this phrase ignores Abe getting shot.

Top-Acadia-1936

I have a 40% loss on BTC.  

Lawaichi

Go back in time and buy BTC...

Old_Effect_7884

1. sick name 2. VOO and some BTC could be cash in my bank account with in 24 hours, (I have other investments they just either arent as liquid or would incur penalties) 3. I dont think its irresponsible to inquire about and they are both retired and all their money is in CDs and bonds dont even own a house anymore 4. If I can be an afford to be as high risk high reward as I can ever be again in my life why not do it? 5. Im not following the Mrs Lincoln thing tbh

HugeResearcher3500

He's 27 and thinks BTC is a valid emergency fund. Someone should have said it to him sooner.

MrFishAndLoaves

Laughs in BTC

youreaditfirst

BTC below 60k by monday

NewlyOld31

Hey join the club! My BTC shorts single handedly stopped the crash last week and I started the rebound. Thank you for your service.

DrummerCompetitive20

Bears and everyone calling for a BTC and market crash will never happen...they'll nvr let retail predict it. Just like 4 weeks ago out of the blue everything crashed lol

JuggernautFront1190

The second BTC losses 68k HOOD goes Down it's like clockworks

CompetitiveCrab5459

My bet is simple, if any crypto will survive in the long run it will be most likely a bitcoin. Any other shitcoin is only adding another unnecessary extra layer of risk on top of it. I personaly see a need for and value in digital gold. In hard times I’d prefer to have a btc in my private wallet than a gold bar shoved up in my ass I’ll hold for such times my 0.25BTC without any trading. I’m done doing money on crypto, this amount I’m ok with just holding

AdeptnessPlus6860

Brother I shorted both stocks and can tell you that they can go up way more than you think. PLTR can go down only when market red, when nvidia pumping even 20-30 cents PLTR pumps 2x even if it in the downtrend COIN/MSTR do not track btc 1:1 BTC can be red 1% and that shit be green 1% Good luck

GisScreamingInside

Like it… except that it tracks BTC…

ConditionStock6278

So many use cases for eth, especially with AI agents. - just started taxing L2's properly for settlement - ETHB staking ETF on its way - 9x more TVL than any other chain - Blackrock BUIDL launch was successful - ERC for agents backed by collateral - Staking yields soon to be approved by clarity act - RWA increasing like crazy - Staked supply going up and to the right - Transaction count going up and to the right It's a yielding asset that has the potential to 5x over the next 5 years. Financial institutions will be able to access more capital across broader markets with more innovative products and instant settlement 24/7. Reading comments saying that BTC and Eth have no real world use case. Utter regards. ETH = global settlement layer. Highest security and decentralization. No downtime. SOL = high throughout for retail apps, high frequency trading, lower fees but less security. Hold. Selling now at these prices would be mental.

Happy_Discussion_536

Literally BTC crashed more than 50%, shitcoins way, way more. And we're near ATHs. I'm sorry you're just wrong.

slick2hold

I'll never for that dummy Mark Cuban going on cnbc and pumping this shit too. And cnbc for reporting on it like it was some new in investment idea. BtC is only popular because of cnbc constantly pumping it daily in it infancy and giving BTC a permanent placement on their ticker tape ribbon.

RedOPants

it's true. Hood stock on good, neutral, or bad BTC 📉

TowlieisCool

According to who? Please cite your source in the whitepaper where BTC's stated goal is to replace fiat or be "stable". No currency is stable either, they all fluctuate constantly.

TowlieisCool

There are over 4,000 stocks in the Nasdaq index. Are some worth buying? Are some not worth buying? I'd argue both are a yes. BTC and ETH at a minimum have proven value propositions. ETH Defi alone has $[53B](https://defillama.com/chains) in TVL and $1.85B in daily on chain volume. BTC has not only first mover advantage, but wide adoption as a store of value. Thats enough to be considered "some crypto" having value. Are most of the rest worthless? Of course. But again, does one thing being worthless immediately make everything else in its asset class worthless?

TowlieisCool

How is it inaccurate? Are some stocks good investments? Are most stocks shit investments? These are basic truths, I'd wager 99% of investors wouldn't touch a vast majority of stocks, and its provable they don't based on volume statistics. There are over 4,000 stocks on the Nasdaq, even more OTC. Does the amount of stocks being over an arbitrary number inherently make ever single one worthless? BTC and ETH at a minimum have established use cases and backing entities invested in their continued growth. Most investment advisors recommend low single digit percentage exposures in moderate to aggressive portfolios ([Morgan Stanley](https://www.morganstanley.com/insights/articles/how-to-invest-in-crypto-asset-allocation), [Blackrock](https://www.blackrock.com/institutions/en-us/insights/thought-leadership/portfolio-design/sizing-bitcoin-in-portfolios)). Why would they recommend it if its widely agreed they're all "worthless"? Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. ETH Defi alone has $[53B](https://defillama.com/chains) in TVL and $1.85B in daily on chain volume. By definition that makes ETH at a minimum demonstrably not worthless, it has a valid use case as one of the pivotal elements of Defi.

Jebusfreek666

For sure, not something I am investing in because I believe in it long term to take over or even succeed. But you'd be a fool to not recognize that it follows BTC. When it spikes, so does SHIB. And getting in at the bottom leaves room for at least 3x profits. Plus, there is always that chance that something stupid happens and it runs.

NOMADGRUBS

BTC doing things

neurovish

Would’ve been better to move to BTC though

ProlapseJerky

BTC is the only crypto with any merit.

CleanUpstairs7593

Buy BTC and lose more fiat

FartingOnAMetalChair

This is the take here. That being said, I am finally no longer DCA'ing eth. Average cost is sub 2k but if/when it gets back up above 4k I am out. I just have witnessed to many years of other, risk-on investments make bigger returns. I am still DCA'ing SOL and BTC tho.

CleanUpstairs7593

BTC or die

Cav829

I'm blaming all of you for BTC's resurrection.

Leakyfaucet111

I actually started an $ETH position recently with my avg cost just above $2000. I’m not a big crypto guy but I bought $ETH instead of $BTC because if they both get back to ATHs $ETH will have given a greater return. I’ll never buy some bs like fartcoin, melaniacoin or whatever the hell these influencers are promoting

FredTilson

BTC and ETH have a big use case in the money laundering industry.

AllCapNoBrake

So you're telling me....either way, BTC shits the bed? https://preview.redd.it/jciq8w42ujkg1.jpeg?width=96&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=273029e6b94a2e01ffd5802328714dc524061be0

gizamo

No way that's true. Most of its users are hodling, just hoping it doesn't go to its intrinsic value before they can offload theirs to other suckers. I bet that's the vast, vast majority. BTC was just the first of the monkey nonsense, so it's the one all the chimps are clutching and shilling for now that most of the others are actually worthless.

External_Anteater730

That'll be Saylor when $BTC is under $8k and he can't find banks to bail him out

SeaworthinessFast161

No. Not at all. SOL is worse. XRP never will be. There is only possibly BTC

Gunter5

>BTC does not work and it's actually worthless True but ETH is marginally better

Sandvicheater

This is regarded as fuck, not event big boy hedge funds and algos can remotely predict where BTC is gonna be in one week let alone one year from now its a literal craps roll if Bitcoin goes to $200k or $200

Expert-Yesterday-709

BTC quantity is finite and set. People collect them like Pokémon cards knowing the supply will keep dwindling with time. This is not the case for ETH.

Nutsallinyomouf

The reason I mention Epstein is you can see millions in BTC being traded for…well…you can only imagine and they were clearly manipulating it by hedging market events before they occurred.

nomorelosses1

Lmao, regardless of what happens, BTC goes down. Sounds about right.

averi_fox

ETH is way more useful than BTC. Stablecoins, exchanges, perps, tokenized stocks. Tbh this thread seems like a buy signal, inverse WSB especially when no one knows the basic things.

Bruised_Shin

I mean 16k BTC was an ATH in like 2017 so buying it around 16k in 2022 after a dip isn’t the same

wrestlingchampo

No, but FWIW, I believe in ETH long term more than BTC. ETH at least attempts to make a value proposition based on utility. Not so much with BTC.

Feruk_II

Yeah but then why wouldn't you buy BTC instead? A lot of these Shitcoins follow Bitcoin, Etherium is just the biggest. I dumped my BTC just over 100K, but I'll be back in next year. Not feeling too great about BTC maintaining above 60K. Last cycle I wound up holding the downturn. Made some money writing covered calls; not sure if you can do that on Eth, but maybe a way to reduce your losses while you hold through till next cycle? Not investment advice, I'm a retard.

MotanulScotishFold

Yes, I do. Just because you bought at 3432$ and you're at loss it's not ETH fault. My average is at 2100$ which I'm also at loss but if it goes below 1500$, i'm ready to accumulate again as compared to BTC, it did not performed parabolically yet so 5000$ is very likely at least. Just buy and have patience.

virtualbitz2048

I mean, from a technology perspective BTC is going to hit a brick wall at some point and go to zero unless it's forked. ETH moved to proof of stake, which in theory makes its time horizon infinite, as well as reduces it's power consumption to like 1% of what it was previously. From that perspective ETH vs BTC is like comparing an IBM mainframe to an M5 MacBook.

zero0n3

ETH literally has more utility than BTC simply because it has smart contracts that live on chain. It’s how other coins are started in fact.

zero0n3

ETH has smart contracts, BTC doesn’t. ETH is used by a lot of other chains as the starting point via the contract system. I don’t know how it all works nor fi I know if that means long term it will have value, but I do believe any blockchain without a smart contract system as part of it will eventually fail or never be adopted.

BetApprehensive8433

BetApprehensive8433 • 1m ago !banbet BTC 55k 14d

BetApprehensive8433

!banbet BTC 55k 2 weeks. 

Unfair_Explanation53

That's an insane comment haha. BTC has been going for 17 years and most of its holders actually do believe this

Philosopher013

I believe it could go up again, so I'd rather not sell for a loss right now...but I kinda wish I just had BTC. It seems like none of the cryptos are really going to be used for anything other than speculative investment that just correlates with tech stocks, and I think BTC is more likely to do that long-term than ETH.

Mothman_enthusiast18

I don’t believe in any of the cryptos. If you talk to me about BTC I will at least listen to you. All the others are borderline meme potential.

DesticularDorsion

BTC back on its slide as scheduled 

RaisePotential6558

I believe ETH will be the #1 coin in crypto eventually. However, when the market wakes up to BTC being worthless, it will bring upon a crypto winter that will be talked about in the finance history books. It will send ETH down a lot more which will then be a really great buying opportunity.

TotalInstruction

For what? We can’t even agree on a real use for BTC, much less Ethereum and the whole array of niche and meme coins. What is the end game for all of this crypto? Replace real fiat currency? Lol.

ipsagni

Dont understand the point of these. They do exactly what BTC does. Just buy BTC if you want crypto

nomorelosses1

Meh. BTC is the only crypto worth a shit right now if you ask me. Kind of like when GLD traded sideways for years, SLV was even more useless until GLD went up.

FREDRS7

You can, borrowing USDC costs like 4.5-5.5% per year. Better yet you can borrow EURC which is like 3.5%, then do whatever with it, buy/swap it to more BTC, spend it with crypto debit card, swap it to stablecoin of your choice and withdraw it as fiatl, buy tokenized stocks.

TooLateQ_Q

OP said BTC goes down either way. So both outcomes are priced in.

Fetlocks_Glistening

So, long BTC then?

Dizzy_Cockroach8810

10 years ago you could make x100 on BTC, now looks imposible

Cold_Respond_7656

BTC may be about to have its first green week this year. Bottom in?

staunch_character

I hate to say it since crypto is so full of scammers, but atp I trust BTC more than the gold market. I don’t see anything that suggests this current downturn will be the 1 single permanent downturn.

CriticalBlackberry90

March is going to be a tech rally set off by Nvidia. April will be a BTC rally set off by the Fed

Cav829

BTC is going to stay eternally trapped between $65-$66k so nobody’s options print.