ES

Proof-Conference-765

Futures much better /ES you can exit no theta

JoJoPizzaG

Not sure I understand the reason to join a prop firm to trade products that is already with crazy leverage.  I understand why with stock as you are limit to 4:1 and less if less than 25k.  Options and Futures have no such limits. Ampfutures for example has a $400 per contract for ES. 

Tasty-Laugh-5618

I just want a 40 point dump on ES_F 🤤

bzboy

ES sitting right on the PMH for the last 20 minutes. Just ... Waiting for something to happen.

Tasty-Laugh-5618

ES_F at 6150 Spy puts have a nice risk reward right here 🐻

Tasty-Laugh-5618

Just got filled on spy puts 6150 ES_F Crash now 🐻

Tasty-Laugh-5618

Come on spy keep pumping just a little bit more than crash 6150 should be a tremendous resistance in ES_F

Ok_GAINZ

NGL that spike down really fucked my ES position.

Tasty-Laugh-5618

We will see a push higher into 6150 on ES_F I will buy a spy put at 6150 for a crash down into 6100. Now 6130

Independent-Tree-985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2WFevGM0g

933404

ES, NQ, etc., dipping. Commodities flat. Hmm 🤔

EggyRepublic

most obvious short on ES right now

Manic_Mania

Did /ES make a new ATH?

Khonsku

Things are far different in the year of 2025. The swings are not the same year before or 3 years ago. But it was similar to Trump's first presidency for couple of months. Instead of getting whipsawed from both side. \-Do this instead, draw your support and resistance levels the night before. \-Look at ES futures before market open, to get a sense as to market direction. \-Look at Gamma Exposure, are in positive gamma or negative gamma. (Unusual whales, spot gamma, barchart ) \- Wait 15 mins after market open, look at the GEX levels again. As they change after option prices get adjusted. \- Now you have a sense direction. \- DON'T fight the trend. \- If you're doing 0DTE sell a 14 delta credit spreads ( based on direction short/long ) \- If you're doing 7DTE sell a 20 delta credit spreads \- Profit target min 40% \- Credit received at least or close to 1/3rd of the width \- Start small as in do 1 trade, to get your feet wet. \- Journal these trades, add a screenshot of the chart, what was the delta when you sold, where was SPX , if you made a mistake you can look where you messed up. If you made profit, look at why this trade worked and how can you improve your trade. \- Good luck

Reasonable_Handle291

Bols over here drooling over ES pumping AH while Calls are forzen, and also over the statements of the 1 person with the least control over the situation. Ballistic missiles take 12 minutes to travel from Iran to Israel. F35s take under an hour along the same route. There's ~720 minutes between now and SPY/QQQ for absolutely nothing to happen in that time. Good luck Bols! 🖕🤡🖕

Foreign-Coconut3500

they better. im long ES.

Foreign-Coconut3500

ber at ES 6000: "mmm yes, perfect place for puts!" ber "they manipulated me!"

ThunderingTheta

Here we go. If this sticks, oil gonna rip and ES takes the stairs down. Watching futures now.

69YourMomma69

BTC is down yet ES futures are UNCH. Markets aren't making sense to me right now.

BullBearHybrid

/ES fading. Looks dumpy. Bols fukd

GoZukkYourself

/ES 🤝 6000 The most iconic duo of all time.

Poopnpunch

Bro ES opened at 5948... sorry... 1.48% these the kind of semantics you really trying to argue? Your calls are still fucked. And this pump is just the market shaking out late to the game shorts... we'll be lower by open. See you in 14 hours.

BVVanceRefrigeration

ES dumping hard since 6:40

BVVanceRefrigeration

Okay here we go, now the fake out is done. ES dumping, crude pumping.

Mental_Platform_5680

What’s ES?

BVVanceRefrigeration

Either this is a massive bull trap or this is the most ridiculous shit I’ve ever seen. Oil is only up 2.4% when they’re about to close Hormuz…. ES over 6000??? We’re about to go to fucking war. He just bombed nuclear facilities. What is happening

RaechelMaelstrom

And now just down -0.33% on the ES1 futures.

Tomollins

Just apply the percentage amount that ES is down to SPY and that should be the implied open

KaTz1_

so ES mini 5998 = SPY 597 price? Or whats the correlation?

dimethylhyperspace

ES and NQ opened below the 20 day moving average and rose above. If it holds like that, then I got to believe this is a long one or two day nothing burger

StrifeRaZoR

I usually just follow ES1! on TradingView. Data is delayed 10mins. If you want live futures data, you usually have to use a brokerage or some subscription somewhere. If you got RH, just check them there.

BVVanceRefrigeration

ES will not crack 6k. No way the bers let the bols get real momentum.

nevergonnastawp

[https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=fnVSRIXILPhfgEem)

GreenLobby420

Source? Marketwatch is showing /ES futures are up 0.12%

marbledcaramel

ES Tanking

dweeegs

/ES is pricing 45 down right now

MarginCalledManager

ES bid/ask for the open is down 40 LMAO

Individual-Being-639

Thinkorswim going bonkers already. ES quotes already down 40pts, market not even open yet

peterpeer9

/ES will open way _____ If you can't answer this correctly, just quit now

BooBrew32

You fucking idiots. BTC follows ES which follows BTC which follows ES which follows BTC...

dontslambro

Probably getting absolutely hosed on my ES futures at open.

BullBearHybrid

Full port into /ES calls

BarbellPadawan

So glad we just started a new front month /ES contract for Q3. Gonna sell the shit out of 0DTE options every goddam day for the next three months.

katrav86

E\*trade wants $500,000 in your account to be able to short naked FUTURES options. But, if you do a cock-tease of spread, for example, buy an /ES put strike 2500 (yup..) for $15, then your can short an ITM put. lol @ regardness of this. some call this a "bikini spread," I call it perfection.

hgreenblatt

No , On a typical Put for QQQ 5/6k is the BP, so have that extra 6k BP unused in the account. Now what happens on a Market Down Move say /ES down 200 on Monday the BP on your Puts would go up by about 50%. If you have the BP you just see a REALLY bad P/L number, but that is all. The P/L is bogus in that as long as you do not have to close at that moment you have no real loss. Even if assigned your loss will probably be only 1/3 of what P/L shows. The P/L is using the price to buy back the option, but 2/3 of that is usually extrinsic and LOST if assigned.

Emilio___Molestevez

dislike Israel don't really have any feelings about Iran heroically long /ES not sure what I want to see happen this weekend

TreadOnmeNot1

Used futures to short the market shortly after when everyone thought inflation was transitory, but Powell was raising rates. Market mispriced rate cuts consistently. Every fed meeting i listened. And shorted the shit out of SPX via /ES futures. Made a killing on the way down, six figures. Then went all in on PUTs when I pieced together that small banks will blow up due to bond holdings. Was up big when the first ones blew- then the fed special lending facility money printers came on. Held right through the melt up. Took profit at only $10k. Wild ride. Good reminder we live in a monopoly money economy.

Emilio___Molestevez

going long /ES over the weekend what's the worst that could happen-- nuclear war?

ConclusionEven6917

That’s because the VIX is comparing to the movement from yesterday, if you look at ES you can see that as of 1pm that thing was down almost 1% at 5,974 because the market just sold all day. Then today is opened rocketing up and now it’s flat at 6,025 because volatility is being intentionally killed to lower premiums on options expiring today.

chuckremes

You're asking the right questions. I take the ATR number and convert it to a percentage daily move. This normalizes the number so I can compare across symbols and markets such as /ES vs /GC. I use excel to make a histogram and compare them. For /GC here, I mainly wanted to make sure that the premium I can collect from a 7DTE ATM Put is 70% (or better) compared to the ATR. Here (34/73 * 100) it's equal to 73%, so that's good enough. The histogram also shows me the daily return distribution. I can see that /GC has *more days of positive returns* than /ES. Further, I can see the frequency of the negative days and their magnitude. Overall, /GC has fewer negative days than /ES and their overall magnitude is smaller. Good for selling Puts! ATR for GLD and IAU should be similar as all of the gold markets are highly correlated. I wouldn't bother computing those separately unless you plan to trade those instead. Futures and FOPs (Future OPtions) have a lot of embedded leverage. They are always going to beat stocks and ETFs. Remember that leverage cuts both ways. Manage your buying power closely or suffer.

Hot-Hurry3199

How does SPXS work? /ES is going up and SPXS is going up. SPXS and SPXL is so manipulated.

FiefKief

I lol at retail buying ES 6067 after a major overnight move

sebzebb

ES markets still look solid. We just need to retest 600 and should be golden

Sean_VasDeferens

IBKR is drunk this morning, showing S&P futes (ES) up 1.28% pre market.

Historical-Egg3243

ES hit the equivalent yesterday tho

One-Application387

Most obvious Green Day ever from last night. Closing my ES longs out now

spellbreaker

All dumb bears last night expecting a 0.5%+ gap down today based on a couple RH coke head pajama traders playing hot potato with half a share of SPY, despite ES holding -0.2% and heading up, deserve to get the premarket shaft of justice.

spellbreaker

ES futures 5971.25 RH overnight SPY is drunk. Bears prepare a🅱️us

StrifeRaZoR

Not sure if they'll stay there, but recent Point of Control for ES1! is 6042 - 6046. So, yes. There's a very very good chance it'll return there before open. Slightly higher, maybe, but don't expect to see anything higher than 6072 without 'news'.

the0dtetrader

I forgot to notice in the post, Hope CME ES futures is better for next trade, but need margin account.

MarginCalledManager

https://preview.redd.it/85xggsgijz7f1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30798751bb87274043c803a459cd8190cc62afd2 Such trick, much pumping… /ES movements when spot SPY and broader market is closed for a holiday is mostly meaningless.

Quick-Ad1830

I guess ES1! On TradingView is not futures then?

chinaski73

SPX futures aren’t off much https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES=F?p=ES=F

spellbreaker

Overnight SPY is on crack. ES futures are only down 0.2%.   Bears will be fucked.

BVVanceRefrigeration

The important thing here is once ES and the NAS go green, they can’t stop. Let’s get 3% by 9am, pull back to 2.25% and then consolidate at 3-5% for most of the day tmo.

MarginCalledManager

Because that’s not the actual CME Group futures contracts and options. Get a real broker to view ES NQ and YM futures, or just go to CME Group’s website.

BullBearHybrid

/ES green dildos holyshit

Gathering_Sky

/ES is dumping

css555

ES futures exist, and are trading right now.

MarginCalledManager

gamble ES NQ and YM futures contracts and options like a real trader

BullBearHybrid

/ES recovering

Parunreborn

NinjaTrader has $50 intraday margin requirement to trade 1x MES, $500 to trade 1x ES, but you need your trades to breathe so I'd say having 10 times that in your account is enough to get started, although if you're not experienced you might burn it all in one trade, so like someone below said, 5K to trade micros, 25K to trade minis is the ideal scenario

Parunreborn

Wildest FOMC and 1min candles I've seen in a while, money making machine on ES right now

EggyRepublic

not if i short ES right now

OkScholar7847

It seems to me that the extra leverage is not necessarily there to be used but to help prevent a margin call. I imagine you could use a lower percentage of the buying power for the same SPY beta-weighted delta. I am pretty basic with my options trades and still use a Reg T account but from my testing in option omega, there is an edge to staying within a certain size. As you go bigger, there is a potential for bigger gains but over a long period of time the drawdowns will get bigger as size increases and the MAR ratio gets progessively smaller as size increases and expectancy (average premium capture) gets smaller. Instead of looking at how much buying power I am using and trying to stay within 50% or whatever, I look at the differences over time of using different amounts of buying power. Your size has to be tailored to your strategy, risk tolerance, etc. Going too big will 100% destroy you and it doesn't take as much size as people think especially with options on ES or micro ES futures. That's just my 2 cents from the limited experience I have.

EvolvingDior

/ES is already in positive territory. MM algos are working their overnight magic.

Historical-Egg3243

Ok I've got a more accurate prediction for you. ES should hit 5900 or lower by june 19th, then back to 6050 or higher early next week.

Foreign-Coconut3500

had my ES short from THE TOP and got out wayyyyy too fucking early fucking dumb. still green but FUCK i hate that.

leave-mealone

ES 6045 reached, 6039, 6035, 6028 next. Keep buying bulls.

FiefKief

This is some fkn brutal price action on ES

Cruezin

You know, everyone is different. I don't like the minimal interfaces on RH, ToS, whatever compared to IBKR. It just suits me better. Never had any issues at IBKR whereas most of the others I have. FWIW I also use Ninjatrader for my cash account, mostly trade ES there.

visionarymind

#/ES literally flat for the week heading into the biggest expiration event ever & 🐻🐼🐻‍❄️ holding out hope markets drop #Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

RedDoesFBA

Max pain on the indexes is useless imo. Too much accelerating gamma from the every day 0DTES / there’s too many instruments which all have to arb eachother. The S and P has ES/SPX/SPY/VOO/XSP and like 20 others, multiple futures expiry’s on the minis and micros etc etc. Even if you could calculate the max pain on SPY it doesn’t matter.

_slofish

ES has reached a local bottom. If you want to learn more about local bottoms, DM me

LarryStink

Thank God for futes. Back into short ES contracts, russel puts, ans oil calls

dimethylhyperspace

I'll bet you a single share of Rivian that we're green by midnight on ES!

IndependenceWay

Thanks, I see… what are the best prop firms in your opinion? I’m mostly trading options and futures on BTC, Gold, ES and US30 (DOW)

OurNewestMember

You may not be able to trade VIX futures options. Brokers don't offer to trade and clear all listed products available on the exchanges they offer trading on. So in power etrade, you should see the VIX options chain has listed products, quotes, etc. But when you search something like /VXQ5 to see the VIX futures (this one is August), the futures option chain may have funky quotes and not be tradable. Regarding the confusion, futures accounts and securities accounts are separate. So if you trade VIX or SPX index options or SPY ETF options or AAPL stock options, those are generally subject to securities rules and are carried in your securities accounts alongside other securities like stocks, ETFs/ETNs, treasuries, CDs, corporate bonds, and so on. If you trade futures like VX outright futures or NQ futures options or ES futures calendar spreads, that is carried in your futures account and is generally subject to commodities rules. If you could trade VX futures options, that would occur in this account, too. Separate accounts also means separate margin. If you trade VIX calls and hedge with VX futures, you're going to have one margin requirement for your VIX positions in your securities account and another requirement for your futures account (ouch). For better or worse, you can use exchange-traded products to get exposure to futures or other derivatives trades in your securities account, eg, you can use the VXX exchange-traded note (in your securities account) to own a share in a fund holding short-term VIX futures (however it's common for these to be margined at 100% instead of 30% or 50%). To make it more confusing, retail brokers may have futures departments who are also responsible for trade, margin, and permissions questions for index options (...products which are not carried in the futures account). Part of trading is understanding these differences and shifting risk between the accounts (and therefore products). Different products (and also exchanges and clearinghouses) also means different notional sizes/multipliers, different settlement times/procedures, different market centers (eg, different costs/liquidity), different clearing procedures and so on. VIX options can be particularly confusing for determining margin (special margin rules, especially for calendarized spreads) and moneyness (relationship to VIX futures), but the main point here is that you can expect VIX options to be carried in the securities account and VX futures and futures options (if tradable) to be carried in the futures account.

ProfessionalUsed7960

Why ES1! is 6055 and es=f only 6002 (10min delay but still 50pts difference) overnight spy 600ish so its closer to es=f . Why so big difference?

watchshoe

Spx overnight is the one to watch. ES just had a contract switch.

bossasupernova

Feeling good about my puts after reading all the comments saying bears are cooked and puts are dead, then I check Sunday futures and ES is only up 0.1%.

diqster

Things look pretty chill so far. Gold inched up a tiny amount. Oil, too. ES and NQ up. VIX is down.

IBetYr2DadsRStraight

Nope, just didn’t realize that Robinhood had switched from quoting June ES to September.

Forward_Contract_378

One 🥭 tweet could send ES Mini to the moon

Maximumm_Drawdowns

/ES just basically filled in the gap down lol

IntentionDeep651

I dont know ES mini up 0,7%

BullBearHybrid

/ES turning green

BullBearHybrid

LMAO /ES going up

Mental-Machine-9939

made $5k on EOD friday ES shorts

Schwec

Why is https://preview.redd.it/03vvg104t57f1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37d33388cb4e27346c4231e84a89192ee8f2ad2a Why is the ES gapping up?