ES

Content_Inspector778

/ES bears have done some serious technical damage. So many broken structures.

BarbellPadawan

Short /ES puts at 6400.

Emergency-Ticket5859

ES will probably drift up in the overnight session before retesting the swing low during NY - probably break through and create a fresh low. that will be the long opportunity

Emergency-Ticket5859

I didn't trade ES unfortunately, however had a successful GC short at around the same time. I'm in Australia, so SPY started dumping at 2:30am. Sometimes sleep is more valuable. I do like being validated though. Hope someone else made a good play!

dub_soda

SPY/ES didn’t take out that low (yet) but NQ did. Tomorrow is going to be wild

BarbellPadawan

Just pulled $3200 out of /ES, thanks Mr. Market.

TradingDegen

My ES short is cumming

fatuousfatwa

Big cap energy supplier Eversource (ES) went on sale down $9.28 yesterday. Like NEE did a few months ago quickly recovered all of it. New England high dividend.

daedalus_dance

ES1 Futures back above the 50 Day EMA and Nvidia wasn't shit - AI may be a bubble but can definitely go on longer, looking at other bubbles historically. Being in high-beta stocks like most of this sub means you feel -3% as -20% but the market itself has been pretty robust despite all the negativity. 18th was heavy selling volume (scaredy cats), 19th was positive green, today shows green volume too so far. I was a bear in March and April and it did me well, but honestly if you're bearish you're about to be obliterated here.

John-AtlasGames

Sold my /ES and /NQ futures. Not convinced this AH pump will last until morning. I look forward to grieving the profits I will now miss.

LarryStink

Im not afraid to switch my views if im proved wrong. I learned long ago, never marry a position, ESPECIALLY shorts, in a bull market.  Took about a -12% hit today on the full port shorts and long bonds Losing a good chunk of my unrealized PnL. Thankfully I set a stop limit on MES futures longs incase I got stopped out of my MNQ shorts. Recouped a decent portion so far. And just bought a 1dte call option ~ 0.5% otm on ES. Assuming any data releases tomorrow dont upset these gains in the market, the volatility unwind will be good for another 1-2% tomorrow. Animal spirits should flare up and chase this higher. 

Complex-Note-5274

yea, meaningful volume on both /ES and /NQ

BarbellPadawan

Sold an /ES contract right before close at 6701. Gonna be nicely green at CME open.

brucekeller

slightly ominous that NQ and ES futures refuse to make a higher high than today's high near cash open... although RTY had no trouble getting a higher high.

BarbellPadawan

Just took another 11 points out of ES at that ER. Thanks NVDA. And fuck you Market.

RacistAIBot

Asia markets selling off ES and NQ like they got leaked NVDA earnings already

Impossible_Notice204

Why don't you just trade them? 60 ticks on a ES mini is $300 If you're good you can do 60 ticks in 1 minute 5 to 7 times a day

ClevelandSteamer81

My ES futures are looking nice.

Successful_Lab6343

HELP: Give me a play to full port on ES futures for tomorrow 🫲🏼🫱🏼

WeaIthAcademy

Right now, you hinge on survivorship bias. To trade with success long term, you need a strategy that has an edge. Those don't fall from the skies and whoever has one will rarely share them. There's a couple points to talk about here, in no particular order: 1. **PDT rules**. If you day trade SPY options, with an account valued under 25k, you are only allowed 3 day trades in a rolling 5 day window. When you violate this, your account will be set to close only. IF you needed to keep doing what you're doing because someone put a gun to your head, you'd need to use /ES options or /MES options to avoid PDT. I strongly suggest you do the homework first before blowing your account with that. 2. **Position sizing**. Two words: too large. Simply too much risk for your account size. Target 1, 2 or 5% of account value as risk. The beauty in options is that you can determine your risk on entry instead of depending on stop loss orders. Personally never used RH but buying puts & calls in the way you do is much riskier than doing the same with appropriate vertical spreads. 3. **Instrument**. If you want directional exposure only (which you do, you clearly don't know how volatility works yet), then futures are the way better suited vehicle. ES has a tick value of $12.50, MES has 1/10th of that. E.g. a 50 point move would yield $250 with 1 MES contract (1 point = 4 ticks in ES/MES). This is a sane range for SL/TP given your account size. Options experience time decay and depend on volatility expectations. Shorter expiration = faster value decay. If you only want direction, you are making it needlessly hard for yourself. Puts are less bad than calls for this since price going down often means volatility expectations rising = put value increasing. Still, time decay eats into the price. Use options when you understand how volatility works and behaves, use futures if you want directional exposure intraday. 4. **Strategy**. You don't have one, you have luck. Take it from me or the market, I'm telling you for free though, the market won't. If you want to learn about opening range breakouts, I suggests this [article ](https://medium.com/@thewealthacademyyt/how-to-tell-if-todays-opening-move-will-stick-or-fail-f0cd5a742977)I wrote on it. Before you even think about touching real money, you need to find a strategy that works and that works for you. If you like directional day trading, I can suggest reading [this](https://medium.com/@thewealthacademyyt/the-single-best-indicator-i-found-in-5-years-of-full-time-trading-e41f4a1fbed1). Work your way into it and look up everything you don't understand. That will put you ahead of 99% of traders. Those are stuck where you are right now, thinking money grows on trees and you just buy and sell a couple things. Trading is hard, it's skewed against you and only few make it. You need emotional discipline more than anything else and at least a year, most likely more towards 5 years, until you get it. It's doable though and one of the two things that can get you out of the 9-5, the other being entrepreneurship. If you're not willing to learn, fail, learn more etc. until you got it right, just buy some ETF and invest your energy elsewhere. If you really want to succeed in this, you will need to put in the work, like everyone else. Everyone that tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. There are things out there that do work consistently, but you need to dive deeper to understand them. Hope this direct feedback helps you.

Ceyenne18

Vix1 2.51%, Vix2 1.67%, ES -0.54% LMFAO! chicken shit algos.

Content_Inspector778

/ES haven't had a routine 10% correction since April, which is very unusual even in bull markets.

EvolvingDior

Expect to see ES at 6650 soon.

upwy

is ES the smartest ones?

EvolvingDior

There are 3 types of traders here: SPY, SPX, ES.

Scoiatael

/ES, had the 6725p/6700p spread. Closed it when /ES was dancing around 6725 and 6730.

EvolvingDior

Waiting for ES to break 6740...

WhoEatsMyOatmeal

Looking at weekly timeframe, if /ES is about to show weakness, it should start from 6788 So max short here SL: extremely tight, 6791.5 P.S. You're welcome.

trojanmana

ES needs to get over the 50 hour and Friday high. big lvl here.

anon_9545

It does. Try ES=F for SP500 and NQ=F for Nasdaq

SocraticGoats

You can just use ticker us500 for spx without a delay, but its spx, not the ES obviously

copingstoic

On TradingView (delayed, if you don’t pay) - Ticker !ES for SPX and Ticker !NQ for NASDAQ.

EvolvingDior

Would like to see another 20 points on ES tonight.

jpric155

Look up ES1! On tradingview

Fancy_Excitement6997

Is it ES1? Not sure

Marko-2091

ES1!

stupidber

Here's a link for all the retards that don't know where to find futes [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=kNk3QWF3FlkLS4E9)

lf8eght

Search up NQ or ES on ur brokerage

Content_Inspector778

/ES built a triangle pattern. Bulls will need to hold support or another big leg down.

duboilburner

Both, and then also have to understand that SPY is an ETF that \*tracks\* the SPX index. SPX has options as well that have an even more clear signal of how options can drive the price action, but SPX has no shares to trade. Market Makers hedge their SPX options book with buying and selling front month /ES futures, yet another thing that drives the price that SPY follows. But yes, it can work in reverse, too, where large SPY trades can also move SPX and /ES. But, I would argue that there is a bigger influence found in the SPX options than there is SPY options for where price is likely to go. And if you're trading options just to trade options instead of hedging an actual position of shares held in $SPY, $SPX is a much better active trading vehicle. More favorable tax treatment and they cash settle at expiration, zero assignment risk as there are no shares of SPX to trade.

WilsonKh

Good thing I don’t know what ES means, so I can’t follow you into madness

Content_Inspector778

/ES building structure to set up for leg.

Weaves87

Market makers hedge by buying/selling shares as the delta of your position changes over time. This keeps them relatively neutral to the underlying market, which is exactly where they want to be. They usually don't want to be net long or net short anything, they just want to make the market. Since gamma is at it's peak close to expiry, and gamma is the greek that influences how much delta changes with each 1 dollar move the underlying makes, this means that delta can change extremely quickly when close to expiration. Because delta changes very quickly, market makers would buy/sell shares extremely rapidly, and this can have pronounced effects on the price of the underlying. So to answer your question in the OP: it's both. SPY's moves (e.g. from direct investment in the index, or something like /MES or /ES futures) influence the options market, and the options also have a direct impact on underlying price, especially when close to expiration. You can see it quite clearly with how much realized volatility there is in SPY in the final 30 minutes on any given trading day

1098duc_w_the_termi

I used to hide my tradingview screen while at work but one morning my VP came into my office when I wasn’t paying attention and noticed me watching ES. Who knew the dude was a degenerate. Career growth has been popping off since. Now all we do is shit talk the fed, overhyped tech and stupid option plays lmao. Dude paperhanded PLTR at 13/sh to 40.

dontslambro

No I need ES 6875 I will look for an exit point. I am hoping to atleast try overnight High in the 70s

Momadance1

SPY up ES low of day

DJisDopeAF

Look at $ES/$NQ

dontslambro

ES futures. 6875avg

Secure_Dog3810

Even better, trade options on NQ and ES and enjoy losing money 23 hours a day!

Zestyclose-Hat-5497

ooops. Ticker ES for SPY-mini futures on Tradingview. Delay is 10 mins

Powerball_Winner2x

Great set-ups yesterday and today for long trades. Range days that don't break my support/resistance levels and satisfy my other criteria I sell premium on 0DTE. Trades are only initiated at the time my criteria are met and closed when my criteria are met. For trading Friday (tomorrow) I am looking for tonight's ES futures contract lows to hold AND for then for my entry criteria to be met to go long or sell premium, depending on when my entryIf either does not occur there's no trade and day off.

brucekeller

bro wtf is that last minute volume on /ES goddamn son

John-AtlasGames

In a rational market we would not get a strong V today, but in case we do, it would be really good for my port positions right now since I went long /ES

BooBrew32

WTF why isn't ES\_F mooning? WE OWN THE FLOAT!!!!

BooBrew32

ES\_F is in the Epstein files.

cayoloco

Futures markets are though. Check out ES or NQ for Futures prices

MasterSexyBunnyLord

It's based on delta, what is the chart going to tell you? > Also, if a trade goes against you, how much do you roll before you cut your losses? On the put side, I roll at 21 days or 50% profit. You'll notice I mainly use indexes because I'm expecting eventually these things will recover. There is no cutting losses. Most extreme cases was SPX in the tariff crash. My strike on SPX was 5700 and it went all the way down to 4800. It was down big and eventually it was worthless. On the call side, I don't do much naked calls anymore, my personal feeling is that they're under-priced because they keep being breached but you do you. I usually do a variation with calls when I get assigned. For example, I have 1 ES and 2 GC currently, I do one of: - covered call - ratio spread - front ratio spread where I finance the purchase of multiple calls with the short calls I sold I finally just got rid of an SI futures yesterday using this last method, had one short $49 covered call and was long 3x49.30. With SI touching $50 yesterday it was great... That's the easy part, the hard part is when this thing was down $30k these last few weeks without the ability to sell any calls because it was too far away. Again, not saying this is for you or anybody else.

MasterSexyBunnyLord

> When exactly do you initiate a Short Strangle? If you're looking to do 45 dte, then 45 days before expiration would be the time to enter. > How do you know the market will remain neutral/range-bound? You don't. Delta give you your odds based on what history is going to happen when volatility was about the same as it is currently. > What symbols/instruments do you trade? I tend to stick to mainly SPX with ES, NQ, GC and SI but you can do what you want. > Is a Covered Strangle a safer strategy than a Short Strangle? In a way because you don't have a naked call but now you're more long because you have long delta on the short put and long delta from the underlying. > Yes, I understand the ROI is lower compared to a naked Short Strangle… but in terms of safety, stability, and long-term durability— isn’t Covered Strangle simply a better strategy? Maybe start with just short puts or a paper account and go from there?

80delta

Not true. Leverage is only 15X on /ES and /MES. ODTE, I can get about 100X with a .95 delta. Its around 350X if you want to play ATM. With futures, that leverage moves against you just the same as if it goes with you at all times. Essentially, the delta is constantly at 1.00. You are exposed to an unlimited downside risk with futures. With options, your risk can be no worse than the cost of the option. Futures: unlimited upside potential. Unlimited risk. Options: unlimited upside potential. Limited risk. I took bad advice that futures is better than options for day trading. Almost blew up my account. There are benefits to it, no time decay, no IV crush, high liquidity, 23/5 open market,etc. But you really need to know what you're doing. Its not for everyone. Not for me. Maybe its for you, but evaluate your risk tolerance and trading plan before diving in. It would be wise to test your strategy out on paper before going live.

MasterSexyBunnyLord

Interest rates should have the same impact on both European and American styled options. Meaning higher rates will push down the value of puts and increase the value of calls However given the same rate, it should be possible to observe if there is any significant difference using ES or NQ. Those products use European options except for end of quarter options which are the 3rd Friday every 3 months. Those are American options. If I look at the ES 6850 put for Dec 18th (European) and 19th (American) respectively I see a single point difference. Considering there is only about a 12 hour difference between their expiration (16h to 9 am).113.5 vs 114.75 for the ask which is a out $5700. If you look at 17th for the same strike, also European, the ask is 101.75. The delta seems to be bigger but it's also a full 24 hours (16h to 16h)

Silent_Fault2969

Just got banned from r/Stocks for posting that ES_F broke out of the flag.

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F broke out of the bull flag yesterday. Hold runners.

x98TZ9Qx

Short 1 ES futures comtract!!!

zapembarcodes

I like to occasionally sell ES puts. The money is easy but it feels like dancing with the devil, mainly due to vega exposure. Any uptick in the VIX puts the trade underwater. To offer some protection but mostly to offset margin requirements, I buy an equal number of weekly puts (very cheap), that I roll over to the next week, for as long as I'm holding the short puts. The short puts are usually sold at 120DTE and at about .10 delta (about 12% from ATM), sometimes lower. I aim to buy the weekly puts 300 points higher than the short put strike. As long as ES stays flat to bullish, I keep rolling those long puts. If ES crashes, I then roll the long puts diagonally, 1 week out, 50 points lower. This makes the hedge a bit more cost effective. The idea is to keep rolling these long puts diagonally as long as ES keeps dropping, helping to offset the losses from the short puts. Think of it like a staggered hedge. Ideally, one does not outspend the initial credit on hedging and in the worst case scenario either one breaks even by expiration or takes a relatively small loss. This is all theoretical. I've never lost trading this way but then again I've never been in it during any selloffs. I've only done it a few times this year and hold for about 2-3 weeks max. Anyway, just wondering if you had any thoughts on this way of hedging short puts. Also wondering what strategies you use when shorting put premium on ES.

OurNewestMember

You compared futures options to... Futures options? >A naked put in Micro E-mini SP500, for example /MESZ5 6700p Versus >The same naked put in /ESZ5 6700p ...Wut. Weren't you supposed to compare something like 1x SPX dec 6650P versus 2x ES 6700P?

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F building a bull flag.

falling_knives

Every $1 move in ES is $5 with 1 MES contract. MES is boring though. MNQ is more fun.

GotBannedAgain_2

ES moved about 100 points and VIX closed at 17.6. Makes u wonder what it’s waiting on…

whodey84

Algos (and I) took too much Tylenol. Put on some Iron condors here. SPY = $675 SPX = $6775 ES = $6800 Think we finish the week at these same levels.

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F set a bear trap last Friday and ran 150+ points.

Vast_Ad_8414

If it holds above 6800 /ES Should be pretty solid from here

OrangeForeva

No one cares about the Dow. ES is up 0.7% and NQ is up 1.18%.

anonkraken

ES stuck on 6800. Let's see if she breaks.

OrangeForeva

ES and NQ futures breaking above their opening highs. Looks like clear skies ahead. Gold and Silver futures also had a strong break out.

stupidber

Here's a link for all the retards that don't know where to see futes- [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

cjspoe

your broker /ES - then whatever period its in. It’s /ESZ25 now. Should be able to just type /ES and it will auto populate

aaron-roger

still highly correlated with ES/NQ open.

Efficient_Pea6113

I trade SPX 0DTE XSP is 1/10th of SPX so when I buy this I’m buying more time and ATM. People will tell you not to buy OTM on SPX because it’s “Gambling” Learn to use delta exposures and gamma exposures and select contracts going into the money. There are other great patterns for SPX, on Friday spy and SPX both were over opening print but ES was not, low risk trades off a calc took the 6725 calls they went from .50 to 4.5 It’s all about knowing your data metrics

Clownman00

If your goal is to hit 0DTE that’s essentially just throwing your money away UNLESS you got some good information aka insider information. You COULD probably make more by trading the /ES but that is futures contracts and is “nicer” wrt day trading. But if you’re sticking with options playing LEAPS are good but that wouldn’t be considered day trading.

LittleBoy1954

"build a strategy: Yes. I have a strategy in my trading plan that works. I tweak it every so often but not by much. "and blindly follow it without any additional support or indicator." That's right no technical analysis indicators. MA, MACD, RSI, Bollinger Bands, Keltner Channels, Gann, etc. However I do use a lot of fundamental analysis. I do that starting at 8:30AM (ET) by: Reviewing Asian markets activity (they're closed) Reviewing European market activity (they're mid day) Reviewing morning Economic Indicators (ADP, CPI, etc.) Reviewing AM earnings releases Fed upcoming activity Morning political activity and, especially, Morning futures market activity (e.s ES, YM, NQ, DX, GC, CL etc., ...and a few more things. By 9:30AM (ET) I'm ready to begin trading SPX 0DTE options. I generally let the market open for a 10-15 minutes and let it settle down. Then I look at Expected Move, IV, IVR and IV% and jump in with a Call and Put credit spread. Looks like a lopsided iron condor but in fact I trade the spreads separately. Some days the spreads are 1SD away from the money other days closer to 2SD. That's it.

jonnycoder4005

If you want to use leverage you are better of using Futures. /ES and-or /MES for SP500 exposure. /MES carries a notional of around 50 shares of SPY and /ES is around 500 shares of SPY. The current performance bond requirement via CME SPAN Margin is around $2k for /MES with $33k notional exposure. The performance bond for /ES is around $33k for $333k notional exposure. The cost to carry (risk-free rate, dividend, expense ratio) is built into the price (which is why the SPX and /ES prices never match) Size accordingly.

PhysicianRealEstate

My brain ain't braining today. Wasn't following market yesterday, plus I'm usually looking at ES instead of spy. Relative newbie 1) You buying those calls ATM, or at a certain delta for the scalps? Unsure with scalping 0dte, how to maximize the whole convexity thang 2) Any reason for spy over ES or SPX? 2a) The whole 60/40 long term vs short term cap gains thing seems appealing 2b) but the super duper liquidity thing with spy is also appreciated (realized how important that was when playing w betting on gold futures retracement. Still made money but damn, big spreads on the options

Scary-Compote-3253

I usually wait until 10:30 ES and don’t trade after 2pm most of the time *

QuantusMaximus

/NQ touched 50 dma, QQQ 0.25-050% above its 50dma still Spay/ES crossed theirs almost an hour ago. reads tea leaves...

Maleficent-Hold-5466

nothing stoping u from trading ES options bro

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F bears continues to make lower lows, and are in control until bulls can recover the broken structure.

optimaleverage

Yeah. This is the turn, isn't it? Thought we'd see heavy dip buying but ES just made a new low on the week... Either bulls are super patient, or they've all got their bear mode engaged and we're super fucked. We know what Murphy's law would contend. Most likely we getting cooked today.

thefxll

ES behaving mad unusual makes me think top of book liquidity is thin

Dixon_Quick

6 Nov 2025 Just found this thread because I am wanting to trade a calendar on /ES but getting an error in ToS. Still an issue.

EmpathyFabrication

He's talking about e-mini futures ES=F aka /es it's something TA people use to divine their market proclamations

_hiddenscout

What are you even taking about with ES_F?  I see you post these almost daily into the void

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F in bearish consolidation.

Galadon17

How do you use vanna? I've been trying to make use of it with the IV curve (skew and flatten), and I've been able to calculate live vanna and charm as well. While my Gamma levels work for me now and then, I still haven't quite managed to work vanna into my edge. With Gamma for instance, it usually bounces off of my positive walls. But sometimes, price gets pinned to my wall where it stays for a bit before pushing through. Apparently its because the sign of the gamma wall flips and pushes price through, and that supposedly happens because of the IV curve flattening. But I'm still working on wrapping my head around it. Just curious if there are any videos or papers that you found particularly useful, I'm planning on digesting a few academic literature (Natenberg, Nassim and Hull to name a few) over the next few weeks to get up to speed. Right now I just trade GC and ES futures between the call and put walls while monitoring IVs, but I know I'm barely scratching the surface with it.

Vast_Ad_8414

ES 6920 smash it soon 🚀

Maleficent-Hold-5466

k enough of this ES pretending to give a fuck about the fkn KOSPI

whodey84

the second ES drops below 6850 GOOG/AAPL news break hits within a minute.

Strangerdanger8812

For the ES bois we fail here at 6850 or im fucked like butt

anonkraken

ES did close that daily gap overnight

MensRea_87

/ES trying to confirm a lower high on the longer intraday charts (30 min/2 hour). Need to get over 6800 and hold over 6800 for confirmation to the upside IMO.

Silent_Fault2969

ES_F bears held the back test yesterday and made another low.