ES

37422

6666 on ES futures you know what that means

zapembarcodes

Hoping for a good dip. I was selling ES put premium until a week ago and have been mostly sitting on the sidelines, in anticipation of this FOMC.

LarryStink

Liquidity still stressed with TGA rebuild, repo market drain, and taxes. The possibility of a small correction in the 4-6% range over the next month is increasing in probability. Correlations are rising, volatility products are rising, and bonds and gold are still seeing large inflows. Money is leaving risk assets in search of safety and yield. The forex market is seeing big moves and the yen strengthening could be another unwind event after the slough of central bank interest decisions this week.  Putting my money where my mouth is, holding 2 MES futures shorts, 2 ES futures options put spreads, and 1 Spx put spread. Target 6250 by end of October.

I_Own_A_Fedora_AMA

Thin volume on ETFs pre market. /ES steady.

Sharaku_US

This is why you avoid naked selling. Flys, spreads are all great limit loss options. If you want to play directional you can always go with ES scalping or just buy calls/puts. Personally I love flys, especially if you're doing OTM flys that are days, weeks even months out. The payout is incredible if you hit the center.

laddie78

Why the gap up in ES/NQ?

Medical-Analysis-554

Why did the ES and NQ rise so sharply at 6 pm while SPY and QQQ have not?

throwaway996120

ES down 0.09% is “futures looking red”? 🤣🤣🤣

GotBannedAgain_2

I just need ES to open flat tomorrow. Red is great. Slight green is okay. I just need to get the fuck out of my SPX CCS. 🙏

pureroganjosh

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stupidber

[https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=HqmtvHX2bewMER8u)

stupidber

For all the regards that don't know where to see futes [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=HqmtvHX2bewMER8u)

SPX6900Murad

MÍNIMO 4,7 MILHÕES DE TITULARES 2030 para SPX. Sou engenheiro, então gosto de analisar os dados em uma projeção verdadeiramente conservadora, que nem é otimista, pois os dados não mentem. Pontos de dados iniciais para o modelo: •7 de fevereiro de 2025 → 165.000 titulares •11 de julho de 2025 → 185.000 titulares •13 de setembro de 2025 → 214.000 titulares Esse último salto mostra não apenas crescimento, mas aceleração na adoção. Como as projeções são calculadas: Tomamos a aceleração observada entre julho → setembro de 2025 e aplicamos essa taxa à frente. Em vez de assumir um crescimento estável, o modelo agrava o ritmo crescente de novos detentores. Projeções (crescimento acelerado): •Fim de 2026 → \~808.873 detentores (marco detalhado) •Final de 2027 → \~1,2M detentores •Final de 2028 → \~2,3 milhões de detentores •Final de 2030 → \~4,7 milhões de detentores De 165 mil no início de 2025 → para milhões até 2030. É isso que [u/MustStopMurad](https://x.com/MustStopMurad) quer dizer quando tenta explicar que estamos em massa crítica. Novamente, isso é conservador, considerando o cenário otimista de que teremos 45 milhões de acionistas em 2030. As pessoas nos chamam de loucos por dizer que vamos virar o mercado de ações, mas, na verdade, não é tão absurdo assim, se analisarmos os dados. Parabéns a todos, continuem com o ótimo trabalho Você estabelecerá toda a sua linhagem com o SPX se continuarmos exatamente como estamos. Pare de negociar, DCA SPX6900 e, pela primeira vez na vida, acredite verdadeiramente em algo Sinceramente, Miguel

epictantrum

ES not taking yesterday's lows is stopping me from longing this shit in good faith. just touch that level once ffs

Regular-Hotel892

I never said spot VIX was tradable? Not sure where you gathered that from my comment... Neither is SPX. Do you think SPX options are based on ES? Idk what tastytrades is, but you can just read the specification of VIX and the VX futures. Vix does not "settle to the /VX futures contract price" that is absolute nonsense and whoever wrote that at this 'tastytrades' place needs to be fired if they are selling anything whatsoever to clients , it's the other way around. VIX has no idea /VX even exists, it's not included in the calculation of VIX or the SOQ vix settlement whatesoever which is where /VX and all VIX options settle to [https://www.cboe.com/tradable\_products/vix/vix\_options/specifications/](https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/vix_options/specifications/)

totalstocker

Agreed. I think rotation already started in august. Russel outperforming NQ, gold ripping, Noticeable lag on NQ vs ES. My whole defensive watchlist has been warming up. Hopefully a lil pullback sooner than 2 months for my puts sake 🤞🏼 also so i can buy some dips

totalstocker

I bought spy puts too. Been waiting for ES to hit the upper trend line on the weekly which lined up today right before close. i don’t think bubble pop but a sell off before the rate cut rally is reasonable. smart money wants the best deal they can get. 🤷See you on the other side.

ModeForJoe

When ES futures reach 6,660... The top is and it's time to sell.

GotBannedAgain_2

Gotta admit, it feels good to sit on the sideline and not worry about every fucking ticks on NQ and ES🙏

TecmoBlow

Made $900 on SPX 0-day credit 6570/6560 put spreads while I wait for /ES futures to go back down.

TecmoBlow

Still maintaining my /ES shorts at 6583. It doesn't matter if I'm temporarily underwater because I will get the dip to get out.

TecmoBlow

Made $6K on SPX calls, now shorting /ES at 6583

EvolvingDior

The MMs to a good job guiding the futes toward their opening target at night. They have a pretty wide target today. Midpoint by my calculation is ES at 6537.

EvolvingDior

/ES shreking

EvolvingDior

Down on ES futes. Up on Oracle puts. Net zero dollar emissions.

Impossible_Notice204

Yo I think I found a cheatcode for trading SPX options. Get a futures account, either a live one with your money where you pay the data fee or a prop account like topstep. ES futures move 2-3 seconds in advance of SPX price and if you're good at reading the ES 15S chart you can scalp SPX options for easy 10% to 20% moves in 2-3 minutes

TecmoBlow

Made about $1K on /ES futures during this neverending pump. Good times.

31andnotdone

Before market open the first thing I do is make little notes of different ES supports/resistance and their SPX equivalents. lol

iThinkiStartedATrend

Check out ES, NXPI, etc - outliers on S&P They start pushing up and all of it moves up

EvolvingDior

Someone is trying to put in a ceiling on ES by showing an ask > 500 contracts at 6489.

EvolvingDior

If ES gets above 6500 by market open imma do a happy dance.

EvolvingDior

ES is down 0.05% and headed up.

I_Own_A_Fedora_AMA

/ES more like /BS am I right fellas?

stupidber

[https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=HqmtvHX2bewMER8u)

EvolvingDior

ES up from where SPY AH closed on Friday.

stupidber

For the retards that don't know where to find futes [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ES%3DF/](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=HqmtvHX2bewMER8u)

rriggsco

Whatever makes you feel better. I was long ES at the Shrekening.

GotBannedAgain_2

Shit started off with a bang. ES breached new highs while NQ lagged. I don’t think we r ready to sell off until a Shrek dong slaps all the NQ shorts hard across the face.

Beneficial_Jury_7884

Yea If you’re day trading ideally you should be using ES futures but if not SPX is the way to go. WAYY better than SPY.

EvolvingDior

ES better melt up Sunday night into a decent open. That after-hours SPY action was shit.

EvolvingDior

They said to go long more /MGC and /ES on Sunday because USD is fucked.

EvolvingDior

I don't want to hold these long-dated ES calls over the weekend. But I will if they don't get bought at my asking price in the next 45 minutes. The dollar is only losing value, driving up their value and making the theta worthless.

FullTard2000

got squuuezed out of my ES short this morning at ATH before the drop. Shorted 6500 yesterday, closed at 6530 It just hit my target 6450, fml

HomingSunlight

Accidentally bought ES instead of MES lol. Thankfully I got out with a profit.

TecmoBlow

Made $3K more on another round of /ES shorts. I didn't think it would keep going in a straight line down so fast, but it hit my profit target. $9K profit on /ES shorts today. Time to go to the gym.

Ok-Piano8789

trying to bounce at ES 20 day MA

kim82352

6524 support for /ES

TecmoBlow

Made $6K on /ES on the initial dip when the fake & 🌈 jobs report came out. Missed getting back in for the rise, but whatever. Still made money.

therearenomorenames2

Just remember, 1x /ES effectively equals 500 shares of SPY. 

Ill_Bill6122

To make it worse, call premiums are lower than put premiums. You end up with similar* risk, but less reward. Side note on long SPY short ES: if you hold the future close to expiration, the difference will be the risk free rate for the hold duration, applied to the nominal value. For the same interest effect, you can put your money into short term Treasury bills (or comparable), with the benefit that you can have 90% of the value still count as excess liquidity. * The risk is not quite the same, as in a bull market, short calls have negative expected returns.

maqifrnswa

Buying SPY and shorting ES is a position that is purely negative rho. You make money of "risk free rate" decreases and lose money if it increases. It does nothing to hedge. Then you're just selling naked calls on SPY, which also have positive rho (and you are short, so you have negative rho). So the total position is actually the opposite of a hedge. You sell a naked call then make rho even more negative. Which might be a good bet with what the Fed is hinting they might do. But you are delta negative, which would swamp that effect out.

sharpetwo

You basically have a short call in disguise. First of all the long SPY and short ES cancel each other : you are squared here. That means the SPY shares no longer “cover” the calls you sell. If SPY rips, you lose on the short calls and on the ES hedge. That is a naked short call payoff.

Exotic_Sell3571

So you are selling, essentially, a naked call (long SPY, short ES cancel each other out, so your sold call is no longer covered). Probably good to add ES trade on a different exchange and they are not cross margined with your SPY position, so you also get margin calls on your future position

SavedSaver

This is no answer to the question of OP but /ES is a derivative of the S&P500 Index and options on /ES are derivative of a derivative.

VeryMercurial

ES + NQ futures my guy

Mother-Chipmunk2778

Exited /ES shorts for small loss. I'll just wait until tomorrows fake & 🌈 jobs report to short again. LOOOLL. KNEW IT. HAHAHAHH

TecmoBlow

Exited /ES shorts for small loss. I'll just wait until tomorrows fake & 🌈 jobs report to short again.

Ok-Piano8789

they do not panic lift every tick like this, i watch and trade ES every day since 2017.

Ok-Piano8789

it's just wild watching ES, there's just absolute panic lifting every single down point, i would love to understand why. if you're accumulating long you both want to and are legally required to minimize price impact. why would the bots be programmed to lift back to highs and maintain 45\* upright channel hours and hours, days on end.

TecmoBlow

Shorting /ES again at 6491.50

TecmoBlow

Somehow I keep making money **shorting** /ES futures today. I manage to short it at a local high, then get out on a dip. Then /ES goes even higher than before and I repeat the process.

vegainz555

We did have a smaller squeeze on Tuesday. About 15 points, so not as dramatic as this Wednesday pop. It’s tough to hold those all the way into close though. I saw ES base above 6430 for two hours and did enter some 0DTE SPX calls, but was a bit early, so theta was starting to drain the value. And so when the squeeze hit, I paper handed my position and sold for a small gain as I was concerned that previous intraday lows at 6437 can act as resistance. The lesson here is obviously to always leave runners.

EvolvingDior

Put in a limit order under the day's low for /ES. It hit, them immediately shot up to make a new session high. Something definitely wrong with this timeline for that to happen.

MasterSexyBunnyLord

If you don't have the purchasing power you won't be able to enter the trade in the first place. If you do and get assigned then it sounds like you'll have a negative cash balance. SPY has American options so it can happen and if it happen you just buy back the shares on the open market and sell your put, that's it. You may also want to consider XSP and /ES also but I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to use SPX. Especially given you're saying it has to be wide. All these other products use European options except for the end of quarter options on ES and MES which are American and expire at 9:30 am

dontbelievejustwatch

Need a $5 sweep down in ES futures real quick

Maleficent-Hold-5466

im not usually one for crying "manipulation" but ES downticks were getting lifted back within the second to maintain the straight 45\* up-right line, every single tick of 3:30-3:55. like a program specifically designed to maximize price impact (illegal)

EvolvingDior

ES futes are easier.

LGO_from_KDCA

Not quite right. Some Indexes (e.g. SPX, XSP, NDX and RUT) do have options that expire everyday of the week (i.e. M-F.) Some ETFs also have daily expiring options (most notably SPY and QQQ) also some futures options (e.g. ES, NQ, CL, GC) expire daily. I don't think that there are any stocks that have daily expiring options but that's coming. In May 2025 the NASDQ folks sent a letter/request to the SEC to permit Monday Wednesday expirations on some very active stocks such as TSLA, NVDA, and some others. [https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-zero-day-options-craze-could-finally-be-coming-to-popular-stocks-like-nvidia-and-tesla-heres-what-to-know-79477da2](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-zero-day-options-craze-could-finally-be-coming-to-popular-stocks-like-nvidia-and-tesla-heres-what-to-know-79477da2) Again that's M-F but M-W-F, Tuesdays and Thursdays would follow, perhaps. My advice is to start small, trade some ETF options, NOT 0DTE, learn to trade, see how the market works (or doesn't), consider credit spreads to reduce your risk. I would not start with index options (except perhaps the XSP). Read some good basic options trading books (if you haven't already) and write down a trading plan. Best

MrFyxet99

Yes I trade this on the /ES and /MES. Do not trade a collar this way, unless you are very familiar with how to efficiently average down futures contracts.This is simply they way I trade them, the regular collar is still a good trade and useful for learning price management skills with options.

HywayKind

/ES fighting for -1% line

Maximumm_Drawdowns

/ES futures down over 1% and /NQ down 1.4%. Market acting like I held calls over the long weekend lol

ModeForJoe

London session sharply dropped 0.7% on NQ and ES, before retracing to a 0.5% drop... what do they know? If they knew Cheeto Benito was dying, it would be up. Oh crap, we're invading Venuzuela 😬

sami_regard

NQ says we have strong support. ES says we dump tomorrow. Probably be both.

prana_fish

Ngl, it's not just that futes are mildly red, it's the current NQ/ES price action I'm just now looking at that is concerning for bul. Legit selling going on. Everyone knows September is weak, and that drop Friday was an opening salvo. Profit taking after such a strong summer and going into no upcoming real catalysts (fuk yo rate cut) isn't really much of a reason to keep holding. Get your puts first thing market open.

prana_fish

Ngl, it's not just that futes are mildly red, it's the current NQ/ES price action I'm just now looking at that is concerning for bul. Legit selling going on. Everyone knows September is weak, and that drop Friday was an opening salvo. Profit taking after such a strong summer and going into no upcoming real catalysts (fuk yo rate cut) isn't really much of a reason to keep holding.

MarginCalledManager

it appears a lot of literal regards don't actually know what the futures and futures market is; the main index futures at the ES NQ and YM for S&P, Nasdaq, and Down, they trade 6 p.m. eastern to 5 p.m. easter sunday through friday (closed from 5 p.m. to 6 p.m. easter) they are underwritten by CME Group, and you can see everything about them here: https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/equities.html#overview

MarginCalledManager

neither of those are the ES YM or NQ futures....

MarginCalledManager

/ES futures going splat

MarginCalledManager

whatever this shit is it is 100% not ES NQ or YM futures lol

spann31

The LiDAR is currently being used on the EX90 and it will be used on the ES90. They are the only western company to have their LiDAR being used on a car that’s currently on the road

MarginCalledManager

because /ES /NQ /YM and all other futures contracts and their options don't close for another 3 hours, and then reopen 6 hours later

Encripta

They just sold 31k cars in August, 50% up from previous year, stock double from april and meet with analyst estimations. New car ES8 begins deliveries this month and they have more preorders than for L90. 50k cars sold a month once 3rd factory is running seems achievable. Stock can go back to 10 sooner than you think.

Beret888

I sell naked puts and calls depending on the day usually between 940 and 1010 and I usually go for 50 or 60 delta strikes but I only sell 1 side a day, if I think the markets going to go up I sell puts etc but honestly I don't really care which direction the market moves I defend with ES futures its easier if I don't have to do anything but I'm completely comfortable defending them, in general I only sell 0dte SPX options to keep things easy I feel like its the best bang for the use of BP and I don't have to worry about overnight risks with everything cash settled at 4pm.

LeadershipSecure1664

PSA to who cant wait casino to open, ES (SPX) & NQ futs, options on futs, options on index are trading now

MarginCalledManager

/ES /NQ /YM and all other futures and futures options opened as normal at 6 eastern

andyno30

https://preview.redd.it/98866xr3zfmf1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=b727adf72a64076e118976aad59feab2f344e632 Dont get me wrong, there are millions of way to make millions in the market but the irony is that they are all hard to find. I trade SPX 0dtes and ES as my main living expense for years. It’s just that I would NEVER EVER risk 37k to make 1k. Above is a screenshot of my good trade (4.3k in 9mins) which was only 0.8k risk.

WickOfDeath

As far as Copilot knows the ES and NQ is traded at the GLOBEX and GLOBEX has reduced trading hours at Labour day. I assume they are available, that will be good for my three MNQ long.

ExampleFree2817

delivery in Aug is above 31000 and this is number is without the brand new ES8. We could see 45-50K delivery in Oct

Beret888

I sell 3 SPX contracts each and every day, at 9am I make the decision whether I'm selling calls or puts based on all the available info news etc order flow Yada Yada Yada.... Im obviously selling the opposite direction I'm expecting the market to trade. Shortly after RTH open between 945 and 1005 I sell what I've decided to sell usually 2 strikes from spot at the time of execution. In the event of a defence. Assume I decided puts were the play today.... I will enter a sell stop market for 6 ES contracts at 1 pt the ES equivalent above my SPX strike. Assuming I'm short I'm looking for a bounce to cover on so that the area I need to get short to protect my premium collection is now lower then my sold strike. Does it always work out this way?????Absolfuckenlutely not ....... At best 15% of the time does the retailer/optimum subscriber get to cover and forget......

notentertained90

That's because of all the bullshit that goes on with that stock, and is exactly why SPX is the better choice. The market hunts for liquidity on ES futures and is far more predictable and stable than the TSLA clown show. You might catch a windfall day on TSLA but it will fuck you just as easily the next day.

MarginCalledManager

why? /ES /NQ /YM and all other futures contracts and contract options are open on Monday

HywayKind

/ES approaching a barrier line... opps never mind

HywayKind

spy can't even keep up with the /ES

GoZukkYourself

There are like three neckbeards passing /ES contracts back and forth right now.

ilovecuckoldsss

holding a single Sell on /ES mini overnight that i bought at yesterdays high https://preview.redd.it/j26bs0hkuxlf1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b617475f200a773e3ce8736851f422881e6b8598 not sure if i close it now or wait for more dumping today

rriggsco

BTC down 0.57%. ES down 0.1%.

EvolvingDior

Gold dropped, SPY (ES) popped. A tiny, but noticeable bit.

EvolvingDior

We're almost 5 hours into the fute session and ES volume is at 18k. No volume at all.

Cyborg4Ever

Can you share with me the ratios of how many 0DTE put/call SPX options you sell ? And if the position goes against then how many ES/MES you buy/sell to defend ? I usually sell $1 premium naked puts on ES, I sell 5 of them. I hold until expiry or sell it for stop loss at $2. So 1:1 R/R. I very rarely sell on the call side, but mostly on put side.

GotBannedAgain_2

Yah bro. If u get a pump tomorrow, gtfo. Don’t hold for next week. Tuesdays after Labor Day have been bearish for quite a few years now. And we just hit ATH on ES. There’s going to pullbacks.