HF

EpicDOgeMC

Even if I'd paid double I'd still have 5x'd" is only true because GOOG got lucky. Entry price only rescues you when the business works out. Overpay 2x for Intel in 2015 and no holding period saves you. There's no entry price that fixes a wrong thesis about the business, and the business is the part you can't know in advance. So the demonstration is still running on a stock you already know won. So my general point - the prices of these companies are being set (bought up or sold down) by the AM/HF firms on wall street. The only way to outperform without luck is being smarter about the price - which means you have to be smarter then the top analysts and systems at these firms. You arent betting on good companies, you are betting that these analysts are wrong at the price/multiple they have set the company at, and the odds that you can think of something that they havent is very very low.

Odaskills

**SKYQ** 🗞: Sky Quarry Appoints Refining Industry Veteran Ray Hansen as President of Foreland Refining Corporation. Former HF Sinclair executive brings more than 35 years of refinery operations, engineering, and leadership experience to support the Company's next phase of growth! The appointment follows the Company's recent announcement that Foreland Refining has entered its production phase, with refinery operations commencing, and represents an important step toward building Sky Quarry's operational leadership team. As of 2026-07-09 07:17:14 AM EDT, there were 0 shares available with a fee of 123.87%. Bulls need to breal 4.40 🕯 intraday...GL

Necessary-Strike-488

RKLB painful. Very painful. Goodluck to you. I cover the stock in a HF btw.

bzl33

a lot of the HF guys online have said the bottleneck trade is done. so the memory stocks pumping is for exit liquidity.

WhyIsTheDuck

Ya’ll are a bunch of cowards. This is just an attempt to shake out those without conviction in a HF/MM effort to pick up your shares at a price that might be higher than they hoped but less than will break their fund. Basic stop-loss poaching. If you have ever actually realized a positive result from a squeeze situation you probably had to ride out events like this. Don’t enter a trade with money you aren’t willing to lose but also don’t enter a trade because of what some regard on Reddit said. Do your own research. All the right metrics are in place. High CTB, low/zero borrow-able shares, high SI, still multiple WEEKS of trading days to cover, high FTD’s based on data just released. This is still absolutely a trade with massive potential.

maximvmrelief

prob so my bags are packed tho GL HF in the casino

AverageSeniorApplier

full steam ahead 

xlaco

GL HF. it is gonna be gap up thx

Pursuitfarms

have a restaurant in SF, and a Wagyu farm about an hour outside. Lmk. GL HF

Grunblau

I believe this is the entire reason MARA was created… loan BTC, HF short BTC and MARA… dump, then profit. Maybe dilute some to make it more spicy.

Lol-throwaway-WSB

Tbf mkt conditions are suboptimal to be starting in the space. Try again next year,  HF and PE experts make $200+/hr training it now. 😂 possibly related? Curious to compare YoY results, use this year as the benchmark and post results. Could be fascinating!

EffectiveSlacker

FDA Confirms CardiAMP HF II May Support Premarket Approval of CardiAMP Cell Therapy for Ischemic HFrEF

ThinkingOfTheOldDays

Saas up on HF degrossing is funny to me. 

so_chad

2 days to expire.. GG. GL HF

Super-Activity-4675

The SEC needs to ban HF Trading like Europe did.

theGameNWA

after all, there are some regards that beat more than half of HF % increase from last 10 years, just today. the bad part is that these regards didn't had more money to bet

BagHoldingChamp

It’s a HF pumping. The WSB vets known this stock since IPO. History repeat itself.

Exodia4life

I know a HF guy that was like 47% on his prop around dec 15th a couple of years back, and he wanted to close at 50% up atleast and managed to lose like 20% chasing those gains in the next 5 days and just liquidated everything at +25

Ghostehz

Fuck it I’m not waiting, in HPE and AVGO and closing my broker until next week and idc what happens. GLTA HF

Icy_Camp5357

Fortunately for me I do. Unfortunately for me I went to prison for insider trading after working a trading desk at a HF. Yes this was put into Claude so I didn’t have do much work. Yes, more educational posts will be coming soon.

jarMburger

Then you can find boutique HF that does exactly what you ask but most won’t take $$$ unless it’s a reasonable size capital offer. None of them will do ETF since the regulatory and disclosure requirements is too much of a headache

dagobahnmi

Day trading against HF algo counterparties with a RH bot is more analogous to fighting a fire with a Tonka bulldozer. 

technicolorcoated

Was just disclosed. NBIS is now the single largest holding in his HF.

El-Penguin

As they did back in GME and any other squeeze. Traders have feeling too, HF managers do too. And right now that feeling is goddamn fear, they cling to dust so they have the illusion of coming back

Grunblau

I am hoping that HF and private equity can finally stop trying to inflate the broken balloon of TSLA. Part of me believes that it was to preserve the perception of Elon’s companies until this pig finally IPO’s.

VeganChopper

This is a small group of HF like renaissance etc, or a some specific years. If you consider 10 year S&P return vs the median after fees hedge fund return during that tenor, S&P wins easily Hedge funds attract investors as they are less volatile in stress events due to lock in clauses, a lot of focus of captial conservation, ability to invest in a variety of asset classes that have little or no correation with traditional bond or stock markets. In general, over a long horizon, hedge funds have better risk adjusted returns but lower net returns than the S&P

Ahzmer

Word on the street is that SG caesar salad wraps are selling like hotcakes and every tiktok chick is promoing it. Ceo and HF's buying notable stakes. Could be upside here still

eoiioe

Anyone watch Bloomberg yesterday? HF guy said oil and gas will double after the oil shock hits lol, I dunno but I am dipping my toes

Suspicious-Shape-769

How do you know it is a HF guy?

quantum_simpleton

This is objectively a terrible investment strategy, proven many, many times over. Holding cash or Tbills reduces IRR, this is cash drag. Attempting to time the market in such a way is almost guaranteed to underperform market buy/hold, usually by a wide margin. This is coming from a HF professional.

D1finalboss

VIX hit with the stun gun. Not moving what the heck man? And Jane Street HF using me as a cum sock, just tossing me into the corner of their room

Affectionate_Oil666

**mms, scalp fast, hft in .XXXXXXXXXXXC.** * **Scalping at Speed:** They do not make directional bets. Their goal is to capture the tiny fraction of a cent between the bid and ask price millions of times per day. * **The Velocity Mandate:** To do this without taking on massive inventory risk, they must execute at hyper-speed. If they hold a position for more than a few seconds, the market could move against them, wiping out thousands of successful spread captures. **rev for a good tier HF will be higher than a MM.** They're literally two different functions, and there is strict laws that govern what they can and cannot do. **Everyone says fraud fraud, SEC has access to their servers and all their equipment.** * **Direct Server Auditing:** The SEC and FINRA utilize the **Consolidated Audit Trail (CAT)**. This tracking system captures every single quote, order, cancellation, and execution across all US exchanges in real time. Regulators do not just read self-reported statements; they directly audit the raw electronic footprints on the firms' servers. A systemic leak of data across the MM/HF firewall would trigger immediate automated compliance alerts. **I'm not saying it cant happen, but it's harder in the USA.** **But yeah you're right, each has their own style and they chose it. Blackrock and vanguard typically start short squeezes,** they have to by law, and by their mandated etfs buy % of companies, regardless if they like them or not. **No Discretionary Choice:** If a stock is part of the S&P 500 or a specific small-cap index, BlackRock and Vanguard **must** buy it proportional to its index weight whenever investors buy shares of their ETFs. They cannot say, *"We think this company is a fraud, so we skip it."* [Retail Investor Buys ETF Shares] ──> [Inflows to Vanguard/BlackRock] ──> [Mandated Program Buying of Underlying Stock] **in short, citadel shorts/ scalps, hedges and sells options, so does jane street, state, renaissance, etc etc.** **vanguard/blackrock own companies.** **mms: separate function, playing a totally different game, facilitates trades by holding the shares so brokers dont have to pay fees for the execution of a trade. then they are rewarded a spread, and they even compete for it.** **\*\*\*retail is blind to 80% of trades off tape\*\*\*\*** **Masked Liquidity:** **A fund may want to buy 100,000 shares but sets the order to only display 500 shares to the public. Retail Level 2 data only shows the 500 shares, obscuring 99.5% of the actual buying pressure.** **Every 1 h8s darkpools, but they are the most necessary aspect of the game. without them, every 1 would know well in advance what to pile into. where is the fun in that? and even then it isnt a sure thing, a lot of other things have to go well for violent movements upward.** **say firm a) buys 1.5M shares, well, on a lit exchange the price would go up 20-40%, if they do it in the dark pool, it doesnt affect the price.** **the reality is, only the big dogs move the needle, we are just there for a roller coaster ride. but we may help stabilize things, a tiny little bit.** **god speed.**

Constant-Sweet-3718

This logic is terrible. Sure, AI needs memory and storage but... data centers need miles of copper and/or fiber optic cales, cable management, networking equipment, security, power, a/c, etc. So why don't we see the same results with Cisco or Juniper, and so on? Simple answer is... MM/HF haven't front run these companies yet so everyone is chasing gains. You invested and made some money, that's great but it's NOT going to last forever. It night be time to walk away from this one. NFA.

ideaoutage

Can someone elaborate on the token sales? Also, GL HF

Oneitised

Yer sure, but I’m not going to list every way they buy a company using pools, trs, options, convertible debt etc. the comment that he probably had to use options is correct as he probably did. We aren’t talking about the myriad of ways a HF would buy into a company. I’m not suggesting he creates a gamma squeeze to fuck his entry price lol.

asmit9

Can we start a page to watch those two HF and start copying them? 😆

King_Chron

who cares about doug? its like the people in here have a hard on for some small HF guy, makes no sense in my mind here is a bit of history Kass, 64, has shorted Berkshire stock in a bet the price will fall. He is one of three members of an analyst panel that, along with shareholders and journalists, gets to question Buffett and Berkshire Vice Chairman Charlie Munger for five hours at the meeting, which draws more than 35,000 people to Omaha each year. "I had a lot of fun going to the Woodstock music festival on Max Yasgur's farm in Bethel, New York in August 1969. I expect to have almost as much fun - and remember it - going to the Woodstock of Capitalism in Omaha," Kass said in an interview. bro shorted Buffet in 2013 enough said lol

UnknownM007

The HF that sold the 4.3m worth of shares at the peak broke their own rules and said they bought back in to balance it out but other than that I have no fucking clue

MrRo8ot

That guy is right. Figma is the best product in the market. Adobe is the real value trap here. I was a designer growing up with macromedia and Adobe products, I wish I would have Figma back then. They are pushing for AI integration and their MCP server is working well with coding llms. I was managing designers the last few years and all of them were happy users. The market is wrong and it’s just a MM/PB/HF liquidity grab to plumb other holes while waiting out what the real AI victims will be.

-vp-

RL **without** HF isn't something inherently impossible with an LLM / transformer achitecture though. If the model itself is able to self post-train and re-weight itself to "understand" new facts, handle novel tasks asked up them *reliably*, etc.would that meet your definition of AGI? It's something certainly possible with today's architecture albeit likely infeasible in terms of speed, cost, and accuracy and what frontier labs are trying to achieve.

collegefootballfan69

Anyone who does DD doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about. Just think about how far you are away from the actual business. BU Leaders, Management, Executive Management, Board of Directors, Government oversight, Data collectors for HF’s, Analyst for sell side, analyst for buy side, short sellers, long only, active fund managers, guy on the street, your Uber driver and now you thinking your DD is worth something. Its worthless, just wipe your ass with it and flush it down the drain.

tutoredstatue95

There's a reason why the pros use a lot of custom tooling, even if not HF. There's also a reason RH and other platforms like TastyTrade can offer "0 fees". Same as other tech, if you arent paying for it, then you are the product.

OddToba

Think about it this way. Ken Griffin is a top 40 billionaire, right? He owns a market maker, and a hedge fund. Do you think his market making hand (Citadel Securities) just sells calls/options (and pays for order flow from all retail brokers), and just does nothing with that info? His algos know the order book, and if they see that it’s a bullish trend, they’ll push the stock down until retail stops-losses out. Then they’ll slam it the other way. They don’t need to make amazing trades. They just need to shake the masses out of their positions. 51 billion. The highest net worth hedge fund manager by far. Is he a macro-contrarian like Ray Dalio? No. A savvy hands-on manager like Carl Icahn? No. If retail picks up pennies in front of the steamroller, his algo trading HF is the steamroller…

ImpossibleHotel2542

So how much do you think it costs to run their HF bots on Truth’s servers?

TaylDurden

Sure, I’ve worked at a HF for the better part of the last decade and brought the financial expertise and quant knowledge with me. Having had access to a BBG terminal also made me realise how little access to proper data retailers have. I then found co-founders with banking experience and we built a team of professional software developers. They are covering the UI aspects. I cover the fin quant stuff :)

Tricky_Let2806

And what HF do you work at Mr. TA

TheReservedList

If the HF are sitting on cash, then we can only go up.

BrightEnd2316

If we are talking 1970s now the Top Performers in 1970-1980 were Murphy Oil MUR led with a 67.6 total return followed by NACCO Industries NC at 45.03 HF Sinclair DINO at 34.43 and Weatherford International WFRD at 30.77 which is ok for stagflation but not exactly great CAGR for a decade. Also you will need your crystal ball ready to know exactly when next economy downturn happens or some virus hits. ⚠️ The "Holding to 2000" Reality Check While these were the "kings" of the 70s, the transition into the 80s was painful. The oil price collapse of the early 80s hit these stocks immediately: * **Murphy Oil** dropped **38% in 1981** and another **25% in 1982**. * **NACCO** lost over **40% of its value** between 1980 and 1982. * **HF Sinclair** (as Holly Corp) also saw double-digit declines in the early 80s before its late-90s resurgence. 

LunchNo7823

Holding shorts, holding old. GL GL HF

rightsidedown

Ya most of this was regained already, still down but not much. It almost feels like HF traders have bots plugged into Trump's tweets, but the bots don't know he's just lying about things all the time. So now the markets just going nuts with every contradiction.

eoiioe

Give me my money!!!! HF- we have no money lol

AphexPin

You made it there in the first place, you can make it back if you don't let it eat you alive.. GL;HF!

ToddlerPeePee

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Wooden-Variety175

Keep your eyes on EEIQ. Im not getting in but at open it either crashes hard or goes another leg up. NFA. GL HF

Cunning-Linguist2

This is very true. I'm in that industry and see the exact holdings of those pension (mostly state and municipal but also HF's and trusts). All of them have significant PC holdings that have built up over the last 5 years. Exposure in the 30% range (of the entire plan) is not uncommon. Most have skirted policy weightings by peppering the holdings across multiple asset classes to dilute it but it's still there. Those holdings have been marked way too high and the dam will burst soon. We'll see huge markdowns in those funds soon.

WirelessWavetable

Stealth planes can also be tracked via low frequency radar by multiple countries including China. The stealth part is avoiding high frequency radar used for a radar lock and targeting. Seeing the planes is one thing but getting a weapons grade radar lock before you're targeted and blown up is the hard part. 5th gen planes have measures to reduce IR signature but it's not to the level of their HF radar stealth. We don't know all the details but if that video the IRGC released is actually legit, it looked like a low level IR MANPAD shot. It doesn't help that the plane might be in afterburner too trying to get back above MANPAD range. >A passive IR track gives the pilot no warning at all. Maybe not in 4th gen planes. The F-35 has full 360° IR detection. It can pinpoint the location of missile launches and they are used to target Iran's launchers. The plane will see the IR signature of an anti-aircraft missile heading towards it and will warn the pilot. The F-22 is also getting retrofitted with a stealthy IR tracking pod to give it a similar abilities to the F-35 sensors.

AsliReddington

Exactly, just take a look at the pricing of just bare bones H100 and go all the way upto serverless/model API providers, literally goes from 1.5/hr on vast.ai to 10/hr for HF/AWS serverless

Consy98

I honestly think your a HF plant at this point

BackstrokingInDebt

I think it’s going to hit r/financialcareer the hardest. All anyone asks is “how do I get into IB/PE/HF?” PC is one side of the coin (which is more like 35% of the coin) with PE as the other side. - It’ll probably blow up, - it’ll probably take down lot of PEs. - A third of r/financialcareer will get crushed - it probably won’t hit financial systems like GFC - it is levered but derivatives on top of that seems to be very limited - banks are less exposed to the PC…we hope…lack of disclosures is a problem So yea some sectors maybe feel like 07, but broader market probably not. They’re feeling pains from other areas like we’re probably already in a recession or something.

Small_Mouth

Equities will surely fall. Can’t get money from your PC investment, pull from your HF or equity allocation, both of which push equities down. And that doesn’t consider if PC collapses, there’s less new capital being injected which will also drive down equities.

DrHarrisonLawrence

Somehow OP got “Former_HF_Employee” for his username too lmao

Catch_ME

If it gets to $150..... it'll take a while for it to go down.  Iran is probably shutting their oil fields by now. So is Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and I'm sure UAE.  It'll take weeks to ramp up to 100% production if the conflict ends today. Venezuela is using outdated equipment and won't be able to crank it up to meet demand.  That leaves Russia. Lots and lots of oil that can be pumped immediately.  GL HF world. I'm moving to the Southern Hemisphere where's there's no nukes deployed. 

mynamejeff80085

Think we re in an interesting level here in terms of the dealers books. HF community max short delta here - if we continue to break, could be relatively ‘orderly.’ Huge gamma wall at 7k, terrible macro, constant overwriters, and LT holders happy to take profits. Right tail cheap for a reason!

creemeeseason

Definitely agree. I have read "momentum" is basically the best performing factor now. Make sense with the HF Algos dominating. I think you're right about saving jobs. It the whole "nobody ever got fired for buying MSFT" or whatever the hot name is. Just keep your head down and don't make noise. Until you realize how many of the best companies do the opposite. It's sad.

EvolvingDior

The video with the guy predicting Iran will target GCC desalination plant... that would be devastating for those countries. If you haven't seen it yet, it's worth a watch. It's on TikTokCringe. The Iranians have activated a heretofore unknown HF numbers station. The Russian LNG carrier that was taken out was supplying China. Most of Asia's oil comes through the Strait of Hormuz. This could get ugly quick.

MutaliskGluon

So market is rallying in the face of awful news and things being worse than expected because HF positioning is bearish. How is the market ever supposed to actually drop lol. Every time theres any weakness, people position bearish, then the powers that be just get the algos to pump for no reason. Insane market.

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Express-Challenge730

BCDA Phase 3 CardiAMP-HF heart failure data being presented this Monday (March 2) at THT Boston. Company only sitting around a $13M market cap going into results. Might be worth keeping on watch next week.

Stack_Johnson

Even worse, they have privileged partner access status with these commodity ETFs and are classed as a “trader” not HF so they don’t have to report their options and futures dealings

eoiioe

Finally HF found their change behind the sofa

ideletedmyaccount04

Exactly, What will happen if we get an 2009 crash. HF.

undertaker2k8

Most of the same arguments apply to big software vendors too, if only slightly less capital intensive. There always have been cheaper alternatives to MSFT, INTU, CRM products etc. yet they have commanding market shares that keep growing. Now we're to believe that a garage vibe coder will replace them overnight (not to mention that these companies have armies of actual AI experts already in place to prevent that). Look into Ben Reitzes of Melius, he is the coordinating lynch pin behind the HF software short.Also the clown behind the GOOG short of last year.

Samjabr

They're eating the Calls, the people at the HF, they're eating the Puts, they're eating, they're eating the options of the people that are investing

ShitpostSulthan

MM's and HF's want it to go up.. simple AF.

ShitpostSulthan

MM's and HF's bought CVNA when it dipped 25%.. so obviously they will pump it back to new all time highs now.. what a scam market..

cultoftheclave

Why would HF get crushed by, or even be sensitive to what's happening in any macro that retail can touch? Aren't they just in a race to beat out other HF shops in a nano scale front-running sprint which has almost 0 net effect on anyone working at a time scale greater than a few seconds?

VolSignalsVS3D

Even as someone who sells a GEX tool I'm the first person to DRILL this point- that AT BEST, EVEN WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE CORRECT POSITIONS AND MODELING... you have a probabilistic edge. You have a prescription for the flows of ONE large cohort. It's a piece of the pie. Some days, that piece is bigger because the piece is bigger. Some days, that piece is bigger because the pie is smaller. You can't think 'binary' edge here, it's shaping the price discovery process and turning a random walk into 2-3 "best guess" price processes that should be generally tradable to someone competent with options or futures, and risk management. And I'm surprised to hear you say that about retail- every time I look at the latest research they keep saying retail is crushing it (at the expense of HF/Quant) but I don't know what to believe in that arena. IMO retail flow is mostly noise because it typically nets out to something less concentrated than institutional flows. However, I'm index-first and for single names that may not be the case as a rule

drummer820

Fuck if I know, I'm in the life sciences, don't know a ton about computers. Surely there's some quant HF working on this tho. The problem to me would be: what is the action item? I'm pretty convinced the economy is doing way worse than the official numbers suggest, but as long as everyone keeps putting their head in the sand in plowing money into the markets people playing puts and shorts are gonna keep getting their faces ripped off. V frustrating

slowpoke2018

Totally, and why we tried them - Hello Fresh. I'd steer away from them if you do want to try one. There are a lot of similar companies, just don't have the patience to look for one that's good after our experience with HF - lol

Chogo82

Yes but it’s much better than when MMs using HF was robbing people blind by forcing sells on stop losses then buying the dip.

Odddjob

All these movements are just a way for HF to get rid of longs and shorts, hence cashing in

BumblebeeTurbo

Banks use bots to execute trades for their clients. Like say your company wants to buy 10000 shares of something but just going to the market and buying that many will drive the price up while you're buying, so they ask the bank to buy it over the course of several days. Hedge funds collect investments and use them to make money. The different strategies are packaged and sold to retail investors or institutional investors. E.g. your bank calls you and says hey would you like to invest some of your money into a pension fund, and then they set up meeting and try to sell you a investment package. Prop shops and HF traders are more cowboy, they are like if the people on this reddit had a bit higher IQ.. basically just trading their own money, to make a quick buck, and then if that goes well they try to borrow some money from here and there... And where does all the money come from, much of it from idiots. It's like poker, if you sit at a table and don't know who the sucker is, it's probably you.

Dazzler_3000

It is absolutely rigged in the sense that Hedge Funds and Market Makers control the price of stocks. The only way you can really make money (aside from some edge cases) is to invest in the companies that these HF's and MM's want to see rise. Market Makers have openly admitted that they drive the price of stocks to where THEY think they should be - Thats absolutely insane and should have everyone questioning what right they have to do that. The market is literally supposed to that - a market. You bid for a stock and if someone's willing to sell for that price you get to buy it. If not, you have to offer more until they're willing to sell. Instead, we now have 'infinite liquidity' where MM's will sell a stock even if there are no sellers and then settle it later down the line. The problem is they never actually settle and there are billions upon billions of 'failure to delivers' where shares don't get correctly assigned to people. You don't see any difference in your trading app, as far as you're concerned you have the shares but they buy order never got filled at the other end so the price of the stock never got influenced by your order. I'd imagine there's also an element of them using price differences to their benefit. You buy a share for $50. They give you the share but don't actually fulfill the order. They drive the price down to $48 dollars and then they purchase it and pocket the $2 difference. Obviously they're not doing it specifically to you but I'd imagine they have the mechanisms to see that a certain stock has X number of orders and the balance has shifted to more buys than sells so now they should drive it down and fulfill at cheaper prices. But honestly given the sheer about of FTD's I'd be surprised if any orders get fulfilled.

Artistic-Employer-14

it's a weird line of event but it is as follows: 1) anthropic released this new legal enterprise software 2) spooked a lot of investors and they shorted a lot of software stocks (mostly legal but had spill over effect) 3) this led people to realize PE & private credit invest in a lot of B2B software (which is exactly the type of market anthropic&OpenAI is trying to get into) 4) this caused even more panic and HF smelled and shorted, adding to selling pressure, causing even more firms to hedge and re-balance portfolio to rotate out of software industry as a whole 5) Hence this bloodbath that we see here today Voila.

Magjee

How it started: HF GL   How it should have ended: GG   How it actually ended: QQ noob

Samjabr

Im out here trying to time the market with a mouse click. Meanwhile, HF using millions of $s of hardware to beat me.

sapkernel

market RED and tomorrow Friday. I'm off . GL HF

uncleAW

"Selling attracts sellers, buying attracts buyers." IMO MSFT now is oversold. HF's will grind at MSFT in the press to get you to sell your shares down so they can have them for less. Side note FWIW, it was printed two days ago that, Aswath is holding his MSFT while exiting NVDIA. I trust the foremost valuation Guru over BB bobbleheads any day.

nickman23

100% HF manipulation

kelpyg72

Sorry I quickly responded, I meant trading as in export and imports of goods. You are incorrect to pin the yen carry trade as the reason for intervention. Bessent has repeatedly called for a weaker dollar and they could care less about select HF's who still decide to carry trade, the core carry trade has been dead for months especially regarding equities. (Weaker dollar further kills this trade) The Fed wants to make sure US exports are strong in Japan and vice versa. This is a trade intervention not for financial stability. We have a very complex but necessary trade relationship with Japan that means currencies can't disconnect too far. I work in S&T so I hear from our banks economists every morning. News of the HSBC rate check spread to every BD within 30mins.

Jeff__Skilling

> The concern is that this growth isn’t coming from real value creation. Um...no shit? Publicly traded equities are priced based on historical financial information. They're priced based on unknown, future financial information (discounted back to today, at *some* rate). Any time you buy-or-sell a share of stock, you're doing so based on how you think the company will perform in the future + what level of "riskiness" or risk-deflator you are applying to those future cash flows -- any / all stock price or market cap math shows this (on math skills most middle schoolers posses, no less...) Or, to put it another way, think about it from the two publicly traded companies and ignore the secondary market for their equity. * You deploy capital because you think the investment will eventually reap positive, risk-adjusted returns on aforementioned capital. * You accept that capital investment because you need the liquidity to...you know....actually spend capex and go through the series of steps that result in *actual growth* ....Which begs the question "So what causes price appreciation at announcement?" Answer is two-fold * If you're working at a HF or S&T desk at an investment bank, you're probably running the DCF math on what the incremental liquidity does to near-term future cash flows + probably applying a range of cost-of-capital discount rates to give you a window on what you think share price appreciation looks like * You're doing less sophisticated forecasting / browsing the front page of /r/investing and say to yourself "Wow, Oracle dumped $50bn into NVIDIA, better go buy 3x levered 0DTE calls on NVIDIA!" I'll let you guess which bucket most of the participants in the Financial Social Media Twittersphere^^TM fall into...

Professional_councel

The funniest thing is that trading is purely discretionary. Mercedes and BMW cars. Rolex watches. Chocolates. Champagne. And French cheeses. Tourism. Financial products. Am I forgetting something? On the other hand, the market will crash on Monday, much to the amusement of the HF (high-net-worth individuals).

TraditionPrimary6781

You must be absolutely plastered out of you fucking mind to keep shorting this stock! If i was a manager and my HF manager still holds a short position here, I would fire him on the spot!

973to802

Been a part of Angel Squad for a few years now. TLDR: My experience has been incredible...get involved. First, great people...it is truly a community....folks are always eager to help and share experiences. They have a no-A-Holes rule - and it works. Oh, and the events are awesome. Second, the education....I have taught (and still teach) graduate-level business classes....and I have found one of the best - if not the only way - to learn angel investing is to be in it and go thru it. AngelSquad can help you get the reps. I have personally watched people go from zero investments to becoming experienced angels in a few quarters. Third, the approach - AngelSquad and HustleFund do it differently....and it works. They have demystified investing and actually made it fun and exciting.....we look forward to the calls. Fourth, the deals - AngelSquad/HF has an incredible network and amazing deal flow. Full stop. I could not begin to source deal flow with the volume and quantity I see. Plus, there is a veritable army of others who help to engage in diligence and often open doors to help the portcos grow (the impact of this cannot be overstated). Would recommend signing up for the trial - you will know quickly - I sure did Hope that is helpful!

Intelligent_Can_7925

They do this with their food distributor companies as well. Another company under the parent company buys from one distributor and sells to the other. Hindenburg Research did an entire exposé on HF Food Group.

BlLB0

No it's not dude, you can't use your own ideas, logic or opinions on facts. Investors in HF don't expect growth, you can't invest in HF just like that, there are some funds that have 0.5 billion$ as minimum investment. HF don't chase growth. Brk has a history of buying, investing and so on, all major shareholders don't expect short term gains, no one cares about it, just the yearly interest of their cash convertibles is higher than revenue of many publicly traded companies. This is wrong stock for you.

Richard_Normous

HF's probably using them for some shady swap/leveraging shit risking the entire financial system nbd

Far_Pen3186

Keep coping, cult brainwash. Quants hedge and trade HF. Look up any FAANG stock. Tell me you're too stupid to pick a FAANG stock. 4th grader can. FB up 20x since 2011 IPO. 4th grade logic. AMZN. Up 2500x since IPO. Yup, rocket science. AAPL was $1 when iPod/iPhone. Takes a real genius to beat the market. Up 250x. GOOG? What's that? HurDur. 15x since IPO. Index investing is for the profoundly stupid. 4th grader can picked FAANG.

Mysterious-Award-762

The tools they have are enormous amounts of capital, which they are free to use however they like, albeit also obeying the rule of risk management. There are many many instances of market manipulation, and these firms are no exception. This manipulation is never random and works only when it's done at a precise time, just like a good trader knows when to strike at the right time. To assume manipulation, these firms must have access to information in order to minimize the risk of the said manipulation to lead them astray, aka, major losses. This is exactly how major MM and HF firms keep their wealth and expand on it. Without reliable information and precise timing, having millions of dollars to trade for an individual is just as useless as having 10k to trade. It also explains very clearly why individual millionaires lose money in trading because capital does not equate to having access to information. Major MM and HF firms simply know much more than an individual just as an FBI agent knows more than a police officer. Both have positions of power, but the former is simply entrusted with greater and deeper access to classified data. The trading world is exactly that, albeit with financial sauce.

aimechatron7

My2c. Significant different company and time - 52 week high = $6.75. Sure financing was at 1.30, public offering and whoever wanted out got out, assume opportunistic HF, + 100% they are out The golden dome + $25mm in bank (+residual $12m from prior reporting). I believe this will hit speculation target of $4.00