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Well, I was thinking maybe sth outside from the US. Like having idk 40% on VOO instead of 80%. I was looking into some other emerging markets, as well as things like IEUR maybe. Idk if it’s a good idea which is why I’m asking, I just don’t wanna hold most of my investments only on America
I invest in IEUR as my current equity play. Then I’m in commodities and gold.
I went from almost entirely US Total Market (VTI) to 60% US total market, 5% Emerging Small cap value (AVDV), 10% gold (GLDM) and silver (SLV), 17.5% US small cap value (AVUV) and the remaining a few international picks (IEUR, VXUS, EWG, EWU)
Ah my bad I thought IEUR was Euro denominated!
I too am giving YTD numbers. IEUR is dollar denominated, but it is not currency hedged, meaning the underlying securities are priced in local European currencies. So the price is already reflective of moves in the exchange rate. So you need to compare currency hedged, and non currency hedged ETFs based on the same index.
I'm not talking about the future, I'm literally citing the actual YTD numbers as of today of IEUR and SPY. It makes no sense to compare 25% gains in Euro and 11% gains in USD when the USD has lost 10% to the Euro in the same period. If you compare them in the same currency, that cancels out currency exchange artifacts and the devaluation of USD becomes irrelevant.
> IEUR up \~25Y YTD while SPY only up \~11%. Well as you said it yourself, it does not make sense to compare them since they are not in the same currency. If you convert everything to USD, IEUR is up 43% YTD and SPY 11% If you convert everything to EUR, IEUR is up 25% and SPY is down 2%
As an American, I can buy many European companies through stock and ETFs. To buy shares on a European exchange in Euro gets involved. I have to buy the Euros, but my broker won't pay interest on them while they sit as cash. Then I buy DB or something and get paid dividends in Euro. I can buy fractional US shares, but I don't think I can do this for European stocks.I'm not sure how I can get the Euro to spend on a trip to the EU. I haven't done that. There seem to be a lot of transaction costs including extra European government taxes to this approach. Maybe I need a different stock broker. The people at r/Bogleheads advocate international investing through index funds. The S&P500 is up 11% in dollar terms, but IEUR (MSCI European Index Fund) is up 24% in dollar terms. In short, it is more complicated. Many people don't want to take on exchange rate risk. It is hard to get and understand information on stocks that don't trade in the US, and there's a language barrier.
You can just search on the vanguard or blackrock website for a lot of different large indexes. IEUR is total market Europe, IDEV is developed ex US, etc
SPYG, EWA, IEUR, GDX, IBIT, ITA, UFO (Some etf's that cover most the market combined)
TSLA fell of my technical buy list this week. MCD, KO, JNJ… as well as the European stock ETF (IEUR) and China ETF (KWEB) all performing poorly this week. Also noted the short US treasury ETF hit a technical sell today indicating rates will drop (could indicate the market is anticipating recessionary pressure). GOOGL fell off my buy list as well as RSP (equal weight S&P etf) and DIA (Dow industrials ETF). This was the second week in a row where my approved buy list has decreased in number. Several things JUST made the cut… the general picture I’m seeing is some weakness setting into the market. It was not a good week. More pain this next week… no short term expiration calls… cash or puts are the play. Good luck!
For low-risk European exposure, consider IEUR or VEA ETFs. For extra safety, short-term Euro bond funds work well too.
[https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/making-international-great-again](https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/making-international-great-again) That's from March but you can just as easily check ETF's that are international like IEUR is up 15% YTD. 10% of this is the devaluing of the USDby 10% YTD. Hell IGOV is at like 8% on the year and that's international bonds so a hedge against currentcy and 2x the total annual return of SGOV SO FAR this year. What you normally expect to happen in this scenario is stock market down and bond market goes down as people flee for safety. The bond market didn't do that and it scared all the institutions. This administration wants the dollar down because they "want to refinance the debt", how low is anyone's guess but 2008 we were 1.25 USD for 1 Euro. Keep checking the DXY futures to see what's happening to your money because the market may "just be down 5% from January 1st" but in real world value that is 15% due to the USD. Things are getting strange out there and real money is investing in countries with P/E of 14 vs our P/E of 26 on a currency that keeps falling. Hell buffet's favorite investments are in Japan right now and looking at the 5 year on those companies says something about stability.
I bought 50% VYMI and 50% IEUR today. I sold everything into cash a couple weeks ago, stocks and crypto. I've never sold everything before. Been investing since 2013 and more seriously after 2016. More than a decade to retirement.
IEUR has done the best YTD. That would probably be my choice.
I'd go for 15% for vxUS. Then rather rebalance to world index alongside reduced S&P. You will have an overlap then, so it needs to be rebalanced ( to ~ 30% world or as you like). This counts on auto adjustement of the index quaterly and regular contributions. IEUR - well im from europe and im telling you its a bad idea. Those who did, cried in friday, dax/cac tumbled, us is also dragging us down.
Thanks! Wasnt aware of NTES For those curious, IEUR and DAX ETFs do have american options KWEB and FXI have far more volume than CQQQ and MCHI
IEUR but only 2% planning in adding to this position this year as I take gains from last year's growth
If anyone is looking for swing trades or longer term trades/investments, I honestly, very strongly, think it’s time to go into European industrials and defense. Defense is way harder to invest in and the better etfs are on European exchanges but there are a couple ETFs here. Also some industrial names are dual listed (EPOL IEUR EZU SIEGY BAESY). Also Poland has been buying a lot of South Korean military equipment. Theres definitely going to be a preference for domestic production but you have to fill the gaps. Finally, I think Canada is going to look into providing EU energy.
I’d make my own mix of IVV, IJH, and IJR. I like to overweight mid and small caps. This is similar to ITOT but you control the mix and can adjust as you go. If you want you can add EWJ (Japan) and IEUR as you like. This way you can control the mix and adjust as you go. With $0 trading it’s actually quite easy.
Country | Ticker | Fund Name | Net Expense Ratio 🇪🇺 | VGK | Vanguard FTSE Europe Index Fund ETF Shares | 0.08% 🇪🇺 | IEUR | iShares Core MSCI Europe ETF | 0.09% 🇨🇳 | CXSE | WisdomTree China ex-State-Owned Enterprises Fund | 0.32% 🇨🇳 | KALL | KraneShares MSCI All China Index ETF | 0.48% 🇹🇼 | FLTW | Franklin FTSE Taiwan ETF | 0.19%
IEUR, Dalio/Bridgewater has shorts on a bunch but lots are OTC. SAP is one you could get options on.
Agreed. What’s the best way? All I know is IEUR. Bond puts would be great but nothing available
Thanks - any European sector funds you like? Mainly looking at getting in early at funds that pay a dividend while I wait - IEUR, maybe GF (but CEF so structured differently) etc
Since you're European, I'd recommend investing in MSCI Europe, like IEUR or VGK. Sorry to hear about your situation, I hope the best for ya!
Anyone Shorting any of these Euro ETFs EFA BBEU EUFN VGK IEUR
If you’re looking for 10-20 years you could diversify across several indexes. Odds are the next 10 years for the S&P 500 will be worst than the past 10 unless P/E multiple expansion continues to rise. Consider some small & mid cap index tracking etfs as well like VBR and VO and maybe some foreign indexes as well (I like IEUR and VPL). The S&P and Nasdaq are not the only good indices out there.