KHC

Competitive-Gain-656

If you're looking to hedge against tech volatility, you should definitely be eyeing **low-beta** or **non-cyclical plays**. For instance, **KHC (Kraft Heinz)** is a classic defensive staple—its performance is driven more by demographics and inflation than market hype. For pure macro decoupling, I like **TPL (Texas Pacific Land)** for its unique energy footprint, or even **RGLD (Royal Gold)** if you want exposure to precious metals without the operational risks of mining. These aren't just 'stocks'; they're a massive safety net when the S&P gets shaky.

Womanow

So invest in KHC/CAG, VLTO/XYL, GD/LMT

Xzlk

KHC??? Like I ain’t gonna buy it cause that sounds boring as fuck, but am I reading this valuation right lol? How are the boomers not balls deep in this?

interstellara_

PG is down overall because of the market shift towards buying more store/own brand staples and less name brands. I also pay attention to P&G sales and coupons for a lot of reasons I won't go into, but the TL;DR is that they've increased prices to the point that people can't afford them without coupons and recently have cut back on promotions and coupons. So people are trying cheaper brands, store brands, or noticing that their P&G favorites just aren't as good as they used to be because P&G is cost cutting. The answer is pretty much enshittifcation and inflation/the economy. It's not widely talked about in here, but it's a huge reason that WMT, TGT, and KR will likely see things continue to do fairly well while brands like PG, KHC, CPB, flail over the next couple of years - their store brands are seen as reliable, good quality for value and they can offer decent pricing strats for bulk buys over the entire brand. This is a similar throwback to how things were during the GFC/2008 - name brand items are the first to go when you just need to keep brushing your teeth, washing your clothes, and keep your household running.

Shapen361

I've been following KHC and it seems the new CEO thinks if they put in some semblance of effort into marketing and brand support they can boost sales. Might be a decent turnaround story at this price.

dvdmovie1

Store brands and companies that failed to innovate (KHC). plus people not drinking (DEO.) Also, the problem is that in this world of narratives, cheap has to be cheaper than before. So many people on here who went on for years about PYPL being cheap in the 60's and then it eventually winds up in the 30's. Nobody wants to wait for GIS to turn things around while there are tons of things that are working. If you're retired, then there are things that are going to get through this and they can DCA and get more yield. Other than that though, I just have had no interest - I've said this before; I'd rather own the shelves (KR) if had to own food. Maybe you get further consolidation in this sector, but that doesn't mean that deals will be done well - look at SJM buying Hostess, which has been a disaster that's already seen write-downs.

Plus_Seesaw2023

When I talk about KHC or GIS or even MDLZ, the first thing that comes to mind isn't necessarily sugary, highly processed drinks containing gas! I only have one thing left to say: I'm going to short PG! Dump it.

Perfect-Obligation60

Foodstocks ran up during covid. I hold shares in food suppliers I personally use (KHC, ACI, etc), most pay small dividend. I generally hold them cause its fun to think that everytime I buy ketchup a portion of it technically comes back to me. Makes me feel like a big wig.

greenpride32

>But how can they get included in the S&P500? They need to be profitable (we do not know how good/bad the balance sheet and the "billions of profit might be a product of happy accounting). Profitablity is not a hard requirement for SP500 inclusion; if that were the case "big/established" companies would need to be removed and readded all the time. Companies such as AMZN and KHC have had a negative earning year recently due to one time charges. Large market cap is one of the top priorities because it typically comes with high liquidity, high cash flow and large share of an industry or sector. A smaller company could be profitable each and every year, but if their revenue is relativey tiny it doesn't have any impact (or weight) on the economy/markets.

Street-Badger

Shouldn’t high gasoline benefit gross shelf-stable foods manufacturers for poors like CPB, KHC, GIS, etc?

MagicJuggler

I have a yahoo watchlist called Depression Food and Booze. Tickers are CPB, GIS, KHC, CAG, LW, MGPI, and DEO. The depression food companies closed green today. The booze companies closed red.

softboiledjadepotato

Ketchup baby.. KHC (though I understand they announced are going to drop their existing shares in it already, lol)

Itsatinyplanet

I was thinking I'd buy a 100 KHC for the 6.5% dividend and use it to try selling my first covered call.

InsaneGambler

Even Buffett misses his mark once a while. His KHC holdings bled for a while.

ETFBro4DaWinz

After listening to Altmann and Musk talk, Id probably full port KHC before Id buy one of those upcoming AI related IPOs

joe-foshow

Hookers and blow. Jk jk. Dividend stocks, get paid every quarter(3 months) for your investments. The dividend stocks I’ve been eyeing: NLY, TU, ET, KHC. There’s Verizon and MO, but they’re way too high. Also check out r/Dividends. That or invest in the S&P 500 or top stocks, Apple has quadrupled my investment long term.

Silver-Direction-938

Well no wonder he is tired of door dashing. For one person in the world to recomment the Intelligent Investor, it should be this guy. The book bores you to death by recommending index funds and you just quit reading 2/3rds of the way through when you give up with fighting the professionals for extra returns. Even most of the professionals never get them, what change does this industrious chump have? None. Same as me. Got me 100 PyPl and 200 KHC. I believe in you America! Dudes like that make the whole system work! God speed and may you never ever get a flat tire again! Sincerely, former taxi-driver.

skilliard7

value stocks get hit hardest during recessions. Not even consumer staples are safe right now. Look at KHC/GIS/CAG

softboiledjadepotato

FR.. BRK manipulated KHC just by saying they were thinking of selling

bosstea16

I dont know about my exact average, but about 2 weeks before expiration I start looking for the next months puts to sell (third week of the month expiration). So I guess I start about 40 days out, and look for trades until about 14 days out. It kind of depends. If a stock goes way up and I can get 80% profit quickly ill absolutely take it. If it signals again ill possibly take another. if I am way down (ORCL was an example) and then it rushes back up, I am fine with BE, or in that case I got out with like 40% profit. Then there is KHC which I got on 2/4 and I am holding until expiration. For charting I use the upper and lower BB, the 8,21,55 MA, and the fibernacci numbers of .786, .681 a lot. There are certain signals I was taught, and am still being taught ( I do a film study with my mentor a few times a week). Mind you, this isn't my job, its a side thing for me, that if I can get my portfolio up enough (10 year plan) then ill quit my job and stick with. It works for him, and me so far, and our win % is upper 90's. With selling puts there is just so much we can do to not lose money. I may have to roll a put, but it will make money by the end of it

ADynes

Sold CC on KHC for $70 a piece, just bought them back for $10 each. And the shares are still above my average. Think I'm finally figuring out this theta gang shit.

BlueYokoWorld

go boomer stocks. HRL, CAG, KHC. Sector rotation

Valkanaa

That's the narrative, but there are consumer staples companies trading at low PE, like KHC.... If you assume it can't lose any more share value, dividend yield is almost 7%. I don't assume that but that's not the only "value" stock in the sector.

softboiledjadepotato

My RH port is Coal and Ketchup... BTU, KHC what the f\*ck happened to me?

BlueYokoWorld

boomer stocks like KHC is pumping buy buy buy

n4itbad

KHC going to zero, everyone realizes ketchup is just red sugar

ADynes

Sold some pretty aggressive KHC covered called which worked out splendidly for me.

SchwiftySchwifferson

If KHC can just crater that would be cool

BullyMog

NFA. $VRT, KHC, TMUS, GFS, U- calls for Feb 20 2026 slightly OTM Any of these would be a good choice IMO. I am buying KHC feb 20 2026 22.5c and also $U Feb 20 2026 31c. Good luck https://preview.redd.it/d9jon0fblpig1.jpeg?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10971c17ee9fb3036baaf8c457cea94ddcb770ee

WinstonSalemSmith

Buffet takes massive risk by holding individual shares such as KHC GOOGL etc. He takes some risk by holding treasuries (inflation debasement etc). He advises everyone to hold index funds but does not do this with Berkshire Hathaway. A 1mln and a 100k portfolio would have the same percentage return if invested in index funds, as you know.

mountainmike99

thoughts on KHC? splitting company apart but maybe turn things around?

softboiledjadepotato

Thankfully ketchup has yet to make a deal with OpenAi.. Long on KHC

softboiledjadepotato

long ketchup KHC

softboiledjadepotato

My plays are boom booms, pew pews, and ketchup.. AVAV, RGR, KHC

BearSef

I keep a small portion of $KHC in my port. I’ve noticed it rips on index down days and tanks if the broader market rips. Did I just stumble on something?

Extension_Dog_8511

Rotated into Dividend stocks the week before Christmas. CAG, KHC, VZ and NOG have made me MONEY while y'all's bag of chips gets rekt.

Rayzor_Rancher

CAG, KHC, MCD, HRL, GIS, PEP, KHC...sector rotation happening, institutions moving money out of tech and into consumer staples. Conagra Brands call options are still cheap. 2x+ gains were had in some of the above. Going to keep buying deep itm CAG calls with 1.00 deltas. Will Tues keep rotating into staples? I think so. These haven't seen any fomo yet. In fact these have been hated beat up stocks.

Rayzor_Rancher

CAG: Conagra calls are cheap and have been paying well since CAG broke out a few days ago. KHC too. Seems to be a rotation into staples. Just starting. Room to run. WEAT has yet to make it's move, it will.

PalpitationSmooth992

Burry telling everyone to get rid of any stocks with high weighting to health insurer stocks to remove from retirement accounts he even called out BRK because another terrible Buffet bet so if you have UNH i would dump Buffet has got to be the worst "greatest" trader of all time and he only got lucky by being born before most people look at all his stocks OXY KHC SIRI and now UNH everything he buys turns to shit

softboiledjadepotato

Ketchup catching up KHC

softboiledjadepotato

lol, KHC will NEVER find a bottom

softboiledjadepotato

My entire financial future rests on Ketchup finding a bottom.. KHC

CuriousEngineering74

Puts in KHC have not been fruitful this week.

PalpitationSmooth992

more proof that Buffet is a scrub and only got lucky because he was born first OXY SIRI KHC UNH forget inverse Cramer

Cav829

I don't know why anyone stayed in BRK.B short-term when the first big decision they made post-Buffett was to decide to panic sell KHC. Investors wanted to basically hear Abel is going to run things like Buffett and Munger. That was an immediate counter-narrative to that. Apple plunged $40 just on the rumor Cook is winding down. Legendary CEOs leaving is like an immediate get the fuck out for the short-term signal. Long-term though they should be fine and that cash fortress is really hard to fuck up.

AnxiousDeparture7213

Wants to put past mistakes behind him. KHC’s brands like Oscar Mayer and Planters are in a difficult spot with competition from cheaper house brands like Kirkland gaining wider acceptance. 3G slashed advertising which also helped destroy consumer perception of any major differentiation.

brintoul

KHC fucking IS high cash flow.

9bikes

Wasn't there some shadyness going on with KHC's numbers before BH invested in it? I was under the impression that 3G went beyond mismanagement to misleading investors.

ThicccBoiSlim

"Full porting" he calls the KHC stake. Exactly where he belongs.

Medical-Shoulder-337

Good. KHC sucks The new CEO needs to do something bold, like taking that money and full porting 0DTEs

ScheduleEqual

I thought Intel was going to go higher after that big military contract. Just like I thought KHC was gonna take a hit because of Berkshire about to sell 300+ million shares. I don't know what to think but it all interests me.

ScheduleEqual

I'm just getting back into stocks. I'm currently reading Understanding Options by Michael Sincere which was recommended to me by Copilot. I'm starting with a very small account and am just taking it very slow. I never bought a put before and bought 1 put contract on KHC after watching a tutorial and I was proud of myself for just doing that! The key is that I'm starting and committed to this. Anxious to see where I'll be knowledge-wise in 3 to 5 years. Thank you all for the support. I'm hoping maybe in a year or 2 I can make enough to turn this into a nice part-time income. Good luck to everyone and I wish you all a prosperous 2026. Let's Do This!

Plus_Seesaw2023

This is the last time I'll post on this community, we only get downvotes! LOL Anyway, now that Berkshire has sunk the KHC ship, it's time to buy back in big time. A big thank you to W. Buffet and goodbye.

Plus_Seesaw2023

KHC has already completely ruined me... no need to rub salt in the wound LOL

Plus_Seesaw2023

I'd rather get rekt on GIS KHC... but McCormick could also be a prime candidate for a harsh correction from Wall Street... LOL There may be some hope, given that PG has rebounded recently...

EmpathyFabrication

Well as their cash position increases they should continue to stay flat. If they offload KHC, I expect it to keep trading flat in the short term

_TheGoogz

Either BRK already sold their $325m stake in KHC or they're trying to force a dip. I like it.

actuallyrealperson

Tried emulating Berkshire Hathaway by buying their largest holdings, why oh why did I ever invest in KHC...

No-Improvement3164

Did Buffet sell KHC or what

DRCAG3SUN

im loading up on KHC and NFLX.. wbu??

KD_Hub

BRK dumping its 27.5% KHC stake (\~$7.7B at $24) already tanked shares to six-year lows around $22, but analysts still peg fair value at $26-28 avg (low $24); full offload could dip to $20 on forced selling, though block buyers might cap downside. Fundamentals suck with volume drops and private label pressure, so don't chase. Short KHC above $24 with $22 stop, target $20 if volume surges on sales.

Valkanaa

As a representative of KHC please cease and decist, that Jones town incident involved FlavorAid, a product of the Jel Sert corporation. /S

InfamousHedgehog691

I’m drawn to CVA’s valuation and high yield, but its giving me flashbacks to KHC in 2019— an experience that didn't end well for me. KHC still hasn't figured out how to revive its revenue, and defending against private labels feels like a never-ending treadmill for these legacy brands. ​On the other hand, GIS' pet food division has an edge against private label. I know pet owners that will spend up which creates the kind of brand loyalty and pricing power that pantry staples just don't have. That said, if CVA actually executes its turnaround, the potential upside is significantly higher. No position currently, I'm considering OGN more than anything, thanks for that!

BernardoDeGalvez

I learned 2 things in my 21 years in investing 1- Don't try to predict markets, try to understand if the business you're buying will be here in 25 years. If you just own the SP500, not even a need for the 2nd part 2- Use the markets as the tide. Don't fight against it because it is illogical and understand that the whole world is not Reddit or your circle of friends/age group in your city. What I am trying to say in examples is, Just because you're grom a major US city and you're 30, don't think Facebook is not growing (when Meta was at 88). Just because the news are yapping about the end of oil dependance don't think oil is dead (5 years ago) Just because pandemic happened, people is not going to stop going out/being social (Peloton, zoom... hype) Just because Apple products are overpriced, obsolescence programmed, no innovation... blah blah blah, doesn't mean they have a fanbase, Apple is seen as a symbol of status and since I begar readings rhose critiques, the stock price has gone up may be 20 fold. What thinks I see today, that I want to think I am seeing right, after all those years of learning The trend now is AI and companies energy related but... For example food stocks and beverages PEP, MDLZ, KHC, CAG, GIS... are struggling. BUT. I don't know if people is gonna use AI that much, what I know for sure, is that people is going to keep eating. Brand loyalty is not that strong anymore, but all of us prefer the real Pepsi, the real Oreos and the real Heinz ketchup. Another thing about food stocks. 2 things. One is the GLPs. I am seeing already (my wife is a surgeon and does plastic surgery) people want to have the cake and eat it. So, what people want, is not to be thin. But to be able to eat more cookies and then be thin. Even if that costs money, surgeries or even side effects. And second, just because in some areas of Europe, US, Australia and Japan, we are more health aware, that doesn't mean the rest of the world is like us. I've been A LOT in African countries (arab and black african) and in both cultures eating A LOT, and eating brands is seen as a symbol of status. In my last travel to Morocco, the cousin of the friend I traveled with to Fez, was having like 8 Pepsi cans/day. And he liked it to put the Pepsi outside of the car wile driving and walking by the street with the can. Totally unexplainable to me. Another trend Nike is on the shitter, but same thing. EVERYBODY was on Nike clothing and shoes in Morocco (for sure 80% fake) but still it is a symbol of status for them. And I looked at it. Do you know which brand is the most valuable and likable in all Africa? Nike. So I won't be so bearish when a whole continent, that is gonna double their population in the next 25 years, loves that brand. And Africa while super poor is a continent where wealth is gona 4x in those 25 years.

Grouchy_Value7852

Tell that to KHC…. They must’ve missed the memo

joeblow2118

I get that but you’re obviously risking too much. I learned the same way you’re talking about. But I learned by buying a single contract at a time, usually in boring stocks with a beta < 1.0. Things like KHC, PEP, KO. Which is against what this sub is about lol. I dabble in options but I’m not a huge fan of the risk associated with it. It looks like you’re going balls deep and will live in this perpetual cycle of getting rich quick and then losing your ass. Likely giving you returns less than the market average. Start slow and learn first. Making little money is better than losing any.

softboiledjadepotato

This why my KHC Calls are under water??

Mariox

2019 I bought KHC because Buffet started buying it, stock crashed 20% in a month just after I bought. I learned not to follow Buffet buys.

TibbersGoneWild

All Consumer defence are down. Look at GIS, PEP, KHC and CPB

joeblow2118

You’re not wrong, the best way to learn is to do it yourself. Wasn’t sexy but I learned options by trading KHC. I really don’t play in the options game too much even though I have profited doing it. Just too much risk for my liking. That being said, I know it’s not the same but get you a paper account online with “fake money” if you want to learn until Robinhood lets you.

wylekebber

I would drop oil; it's organic and not as difficult to produce as lobbies would previously had us believe and nicotine is a nootropic. Food processing $PEP, $KHC, $TSN and pharma are much more mischievous imo; $JNJ, $LLY, $PFE. Or you could just have a portfolio of 100% T-bills and loan money to the US Government.

ThanosDNW

KHC & YUM brands. For *food? How could we forget UNH. There's gotta be some mining companies that are killing employees

Grouchy_Value7852

Uh, my $KHC, $SIRI and $WEN were “smort port” buys last March… hahaha

Elegant-Leg540

Kraft Heinz KHC  yielding 6.6% and pending business split should be a catalyst for better returns 

SangerGRBY

Whats up with KHC

chaotic_world

Great (and rare) to see the honesty, whenever I see anyone ask about a managed fund... my first thought is "why don't you just mimic the portfolio?" and save the fees. Don't get me wrong, I do see the convenience of funds and the "set and forget" approach. OP's original query and risk tolerance doesn't seem to comport, where is the HIGH risk tolerance and aggressive growth in large cap? Perhaps there is room for growth and I'm being a fool again, like I was when I was told I should mine and buy BTC. Real gamblers are going to search for the diamond that pops a 1000%+ years gain off a penny stock. Less risky, search for the undervalued solid stocks (in my case/opinion consumer cyclical like CAG, KHC, possibly KO... REIT ABR, likely not O right now). The first two seem to be in limbo at a very attractive price, adding a bit of the IRA into more CAG and ABR in the next week. \*\*\*I am not a financial advisor, just an idiot with too much confidence and a bit of Dunning-Kruger\*\*\*

Own-Interest-7649

KHC

grantern2

Do you think KHC is going to go a WBA and just die? Fuuuuu

softboiledjadepotato

KHC oh baby. Look at that piece of sh\*t trying to curl

Lastchoicename

Seems like nobody believes KHC will ever go up.

Critical_One_7534

KHC price target of $51, long calls are cheap af right now

softboiledjadepotato

You want a trade idea? Look at the Volume that just came in for Dec 26 and Jan 2 Calls for KHC

chickennoobiesoup

Gosh IDK maybe VZ, EIX, PEP, KHC? Not financial advice.

Street-Badger

Defensive.  KMB CLX CPB KHC ? WEN

Top_Ad_5339

KHC, PFE (just barely) and MWP

skilliard7

There are stocks trading at rather cheap levels right now, because the entire market is trading based on momentum and hype right now. People are selling off boring stocks to harvest tax losses and piling into AI stocks. There is opportunity in buying boring stocks. CMCSA- 6-7x forward earnings, compared to 15x historically. While they face some stagnation due to competition in the broadband space, that's still potential 15% returns just for keeping earnings steady. PYPL, GIS, KHC, CAG, VZ are all in a roughly 10-12x forward PE range. Then you got REITs like AMH/INVH trading at 20-30% below the value of the homes they own minus their debts.

me_xman

Foods companies like GIS CAG KHC CPB DEO CMG.

chainerection

Just loaded up on AAPL, Goog, KO, MCD, KHC and OXY Billionaire wen?

Grouchy_Value7852

My CAG, KHC and WEN positions would like a word…. Heh

MCB1317

Sirius, Pool, KHC, Paramount ...

VotedOut

>What other assets do you think would be better? The problem right now is finding anything that isn’t ridiculously inflated in price due to the everything bubble problem.  Good question. I'm trying to figure that out myself. I agree that it's hard to find places to hide out in because everything seems pretty expensive. I just think that Gold may be too cliché of a hiding spot that too much money is already trying to hide in already. I'm thinking along the lines of survival essentials: food, energy, electricity, houses, household essentials, and basic materials. So... maybe some food company stocks (KHC, KO, Nestle) household essentials stocks (PG, TGT), energy stocks, and household REITs that haven't sky-rocketed in price yet? A crude oil ETF maybe? A clean energy ETF maybe? Also, think outside the box and look into under-the-radar collectibles like rare vintage/nostalgic collectibles (like scarce out-of-print factory-sealed products) that sell on Ebay and elsewhere that aren't so cliche on investing forums that the big institutional money is probably overlooking (for now). But this probably requires a bit of knowledge or research about the niche of whatever you're buying. But I also have no clue if a market-wide crash in asset prices and a bear market (that isn't extremely short-lived) will result in stagflation or just depressed prices all around for everything (with no inflation). I'm guessing gold won't do very well if it's the latter scenario.

Weldobud

I guess KHC is one of those.

ZaneFreemanreddit

I’m 15; I invest and so does many of my friends. Everyone’s stock picking & bragging about their 40% returns in the last year, and under the delusion that such returns are normal. Anyway I’m down 15% in that time because I stayed out of tech and bought a few underpreformers (PBDC & KHC), I didn’t realize that dividends aren’t helpful so I’m gonna transition out of those.

ProspectorHoward

GIS MDLZ KHC PEP You know its bad when snacks are up

No-Improvement3164

We should jump in KHC and GIS and bail out Buffet while he chases GOOG.

Electrical-Order1317

I bought Nike at $52 and Target at $87. Bought ROKU at the absolute bottom in April and got rid of it at $100. Microsoft still have it and bought in April. UNH I bought it at $255 wish I bought more of it. I’m into dividend stocks. I like KVUE, Nestle, PFE, KHC, Roadzen, UNH, NVO but I bought NVO very low and it has a dividend. I like food stocks that have been around for multiple decades. I know food stocks and pharmacy stocks aren’t sexy tech stocks but I’m not buying tech because I think it’s a bubble and evaluation is ridiculously high I’ve been through 4 recessions. Sold all my TTEK shares for a profit (has no dividends).

Ok_Cry7572

Buffet is not always right for those entering GOOGL. He currently down on some positions: Down 23% on Pool Down 3.3% on ALLY Down 8.6% on DPZ Down 23% on UNH Down 39% on STZ Down 19% on SIRI Down 68% on KHC Down 16% on OXY

No-Improvement3164

And KHC and look at UNH.

JRshoe1997

The fact that you just named GIS, MDLZ, PG, and KHC which is basically a huge chunk of the consumer staple sector shows you have no idea what you’re talking about. Not just these companies but PEP and HSY too. This is not an individual company issue but a sector wide issue. We have a weak consumer and high costs which is ultimately having an effect on spending and profit margins for all these companies. High costs and weak consumers has caused these companies earnings to slowdown or decline which has caused the stock prices to depreciate. It’s the same with the healthcare sector too. Really the only that has been performing extremely well is tech which has been due to the AI bubble. The AI bubble has caused companies to overspend trying to establish some type of AI infrastructure within the company and throw money at tech companies to create that. As a result tech earnings have skyrocketed and so have their stock prices. These skyrockets in tech stocks have caused the market to move higher and higher. Tech basically moves the entire market right now because they are so highly valued and have an enormous market caps. It’s why 35% of the total S&P 500 is tech and that 35% is only 8 companies out the other 492 that make up the entire index.

Aggravating-Sign5972

Growing earnings or the perceived potential for growing earnings makes stocks go up, it’s not a conspiracy. Nike thought trying on shoes was a thing of the past, MRNA saved the world and still loses money, KHC sells ketchup. I use Adobe everyday and I despise it Some in OP’s list could do a carvana level turnaround! I could see Nike and Chipotle stabilizing, beat down household names do interest me sometimes but good luck timing it