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BYD is coming into Spain, but isn't huge yet at least in Barcelona. MG is making a big splash as well. Teslas were common, but won't be soon.

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Tesla cars are on the premium side in the indian car markets. Except for some american brand lovers in Bangalore, Mumbai and Hyderabad, there won't be enough sales to generate break-even, let alone profits. The problem is with the market size itself, EVs account for low single-digit % sales in India, and we have better local alternatives such as MG, Tata, Mahindra. Even BYD is gaining a strong presence, and only because of governmental pressures and restrictions (due to obvious reasons), they can't achieve their full potential. Fundemantal problem being low wages and lack of charging infra support are not helping EV sales to reach its potential and TSLA would certainly fail (unless they are planning to build another Giga factory in India)

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Tesla at $500 - why do people do this dumb shit Surely you’d bet on an AMD or Nvidia (hell even MSTR) over a call on the most overvalued company in existence right now - Sales will drop next quarter - probably pretty badly - Realistically other brands are starting to outperform Tesla (KIA EV6 is miles nicer and the MG4 is better value) - Autopilot will likely not meet FSD safety standards with just cameras and no radar/lidar [adding these will reduce profit margins or increase car price] I sincerely hope you got these at a very (very [very]) reasonable price… based on that massive loss already I’d say you didn’t 😂 Best of luck though - you’ll need Tesla to merge with space x or starlink for that price to be hit IMO

I’m holding out hope Trump will take his finger off the trigger of the belt fed MG that has a semi trailer sized ammo belt.

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MG is now also manufacturing in China

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This could also be beneficial for EU car companies. China is a huge market, and removing tariffs can help them grow in it. In any case, I expect the majority of Chinese EV’s will be manufactured in Europe if they really plan on creating real competition (already the case with some “new” car companies such as MG in the UK and Ebro in Spain, previously defunct national companies now resurrected with Chinese money). With this I mean that construction and labour costs should be on par with other manufacturers. It is something to be cautious about, but it could also be beneficial to both parties.

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I keep reading that, but have you driven an affordable chinese EV? They're great for the price point. But e.g. MG really had to drive the 4 into the market with heavy incentives and that's actually a pretty decent car. The local makers have some attractive products in the pipeline or already out. Addding to that, new car buyers are typically older and conservative and will keep to known brands and probably also hybrids instead of EVs. The fleet / corporate market as driver for BEV sales is safe for a few more years because on the higher end the local products are also great and the Chinese will need years to build image and trust. Also establishing top notch after sales and fleet services is not instant or cheap. By the time this is negotiated, the playing field should be pretty level. An they'll be negotiating clauses into the thing that safeguard the EU market from dumping. There are things I don't like about the Eurocrats, but they're pretty good at negotiating trade deals. For me, this is great news. If we want a local car industry it needs to be competitive. And we don't even know what's on the other side of the deal. Anything reducing the leverage the US has over EU right now is welcome.

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Maybe. Maybe not. As os this day BYD is fucking struggling in Denmark (cant say for other European markets). Xpeng and MG seems to be doing pretty well, and so was Tesla, but regardless the last year or so the Carpark is really turning into vw group

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Oh for sure BYD and Xiaomi and others are killing it. Wish we got the MG Cyberster over here, the market desperately needs a cool sporty affordable EV.

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In 2020 we used to tell people to fuck their puts. Jay Powell made the money printer go brrrrrttt like an MG3. Today we just can't stop winning.

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100%. We get a lot of their electric vehicles here (Australia), and a BYD Seal beats the shit out of the Tesla, I bought an MG4 and love it. Because we have no local car industry, there are no tariffs so its open slather - you could buy a brand new MG4 51kwh for $31K AUD, or $18,500 USD - cheaper than a petrol car like a Toyota Corolla.

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Melbourne may be a unique case given it's the most progressive major city in Australia and the population is more likely to buy an EV than other cities. Given Tesla had first mover advantage they established a decent market share before competition arrived. I do wonder how Melbourne as a progressive city feels today about Tesla's brand image given the all of the happenings. In Perth I can tell you the BYD cars (and also MG/Haval/GWM which I'm not much of a fan of) are absolutely everywhere. BYD in particular built 4 dealerships recently and one is essentially at the end of my street and I drive past it every day. The carpark fills up with vehicles but it seems to clear out within a day or two before the next delivery. Seems to mostly be Shark's https://www.drive.com.au/news/australian-new-car-sales-march-2025-ford-ranger-back-on-top-as-most-popular-new-model/ I'm pretty temped but would rather an all electric Shark rather than a plug in hybrid.

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> MG's, GWM/Haval and Chery are absolute pieces of shit thou. We've seen this movie before. Jap Crap in the 1970s. Hyundais were a joke in the 1980s. And so on.

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I see more BYD's in Australia than Tesla's. They are extremely popular, cheap, and seem well built. BYD Shark 6 is the 6th most sold car in Australia and it was only just released. Wish they would drop the "Build Your Dreams" marketing. It sounds tacky in Western countries, just call yourself BYD. MG's, GWM/Haval and Chery are absolute pieces of shit thou.

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Yes, but significant R&D, development, manufacturing, employment and tax revenue in the UK to the point that Tata is essentially providing them with funds and leaving them independent so that if they sell JLR to somebody tomorrow, nothing major would change. It's quite different to say, the British MG brand being used by SAIC, until they started opening design centres back in the UK recently.

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They did. Mitchell Gold was a major supplier. Then MG and other NC cos went bankrupt.

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Which ones of these have you driven? Comfort is the only thing where some of these can compete. BYD tech doesn’t even remotely come close to Tesla. MG4 is cheaply built. VW tech is many issues and glitching. It’s not a great choice for an ev. Polestar is cool but a bit more expensive and doesn’t come close on tech. BYD will likely become the next best selling car in the world. But that’s because it’s cheap and most of the world will choose it for affordability. I just got back from Brazil and BYD’s are everywhere. They are cheap evs and that’s all they really have going for them. Some higher end models look nice but doesn’t come close to the value of the model y.

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BYD Seal, BYD Atto 3, MG4, XPENG X9, XPENG P7, VW ID.7 GTX Tourer, Polestar 4, Cupra Tavascan

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Not made in Britain, yet still British. The factory is partly British owned as the original MG was founded in the UK, proving the factory in China is British owned. That’s how ownership works, after all.

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MG is a British legacy brand bought by the Chinese. Afaik they still have some (design, not manufacturing) presence in the UK.

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I've been in the GCC the last 18 months. What I'm seeing is the Chinese competition burning things up in both gas and EV. 18 months ago MG, Geely, and Jetour were outliers. Now, especially the Jetour T2, are everywhere with locals beginning to shift from Land Cruiser and Defenders. Europe stats are showing similar trends.

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The cheapest new Model 3 is $51,759 in the UK. I could also buy the longer range variant of the Chinese MG 4 EV (official range 280 miles) brand new for $31,816 or a Korean Kia EV 3 for around the same figure. Just for comparison - a used Tesla M3 with 86k miles is for sale at $14,884.

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The MG be may be historically British, but is there any Britosh involvement in the car anymore?

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MG is British, although Chinese owned.

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I rode in a couple of Chinese EVs in Thailand and Malaysia They are phenomenal. Brands I'd never even heard of JAECOO, Aion, MG Didnt see a sigle western EV anywhere Western Car manufacturers are FUCKED 

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I drove the MG4, great car for an affordable price

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I have really seen any BYDs in central/eastern Europe, but there sure are a fuckton of Chinese MG cars

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Have you traveled outside the US? BYD, MG, etc are eating Tesla's lunch throughout Asia, Latin America and Europe.

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I used to work in car sales, they're doing it already. When Peugeot decided to pull out of over a third of their showrooms, the Chinese brands line Jaecoo and BYD slid straight in. MG have been quietly pumping out quality electric SUVs for dirt cheap too. The warranties are long and the showroom costs are so low compared to what big brands charge dealers, they'll be dug in like ticks within a few years.

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MG would do better.

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I test drove an MG4 last week. Really cool for cheap and then there is the great design of the new Renault 5. Bye bye Tesla

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Difficult from a European market. I’m in the UK and been looking at EV prices and I’ve seen in the last few weeks the price fall. It’s also been backed up with analytics of the price market. I also know 2 others who are looking at EV and Tesla’s seem to be off the list due to being seen related to Trump and Musk. Now Trumps comment last night seemed to have really sparked a major upset on this side of the Atlantic. Even people who are traditionally pro Trump I know, can’t believe it. Farage, a friend of Trump, said that this will make “Putin a winner.” European press, including right wing press (including ones owned by Murdoch) see it as shameful. I don’t think we’ve necessarily realised how much this has rocked the boat now in Europe and massively upset people and countries. There’s reports that some oil companies have started to refuse supplying the US navy. This has seemed to be the whole talk of everyone I know, including people who are not normally political. I know a few FTSI 100 companies who use Tesla as company and pool cars have been discussing whether the end the contract for a few weeks now. This I can see being accelerated now. I can see people finding it harder to keep their Tesla’s and will need to keep an eye on the second hand market prices. Although in the U.K. new 25 number plates are issued from today so the second hand market prices tend to drop a little as a lot of PCP/finance cars are back on the market as people like new plates so may skew prices for a couple of weeks. Volkswagen stems from the predecessor of the Nazi party and is still a popular car company today but was taken over by the British and was turned into how we see it today by them. Other European brands such as BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Hugo boss, Siemens all exist today and have deep roots in the Nazi party and are still around today. From my perspective TSLA needs to drop Musk fast as a public facing director or any involvement to stay relevant in the EU. I can see him being public with the company and the US political situation isn’t going to give a good perception to the brand. Another thing to complicate is that European brands such as Mercedes, Volvo and Cupra have come out with good EV’s and make Tesla less of the obvious choice. Also we’ve had a swath of Chinese brands also land and I know 2 people with MG and BYD respective. Is Tesla likely to be okay in the states? Possibly but I don’t understand the US political situation enough. European market is however significantly damaged

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I'm in Europe (Portugal) just bought a 1 year old MG4 for 24k€ that has triple the range of this VW that will _maybe_ start selling in 2 years. In two years the deals on used EVs will be even better, it will be very hard to justify this. Even if you exclusively want new cars there are already options like the Dacia Spring on the market that are much cheaper and have similar range to this VW.

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BYD and MG are already there...

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Trump is an idiot but comparing tariffs to a guy who stole half a billion to a billion dollars worth of African dicks on any scale isn't right at all. The only reason you think Xi is in any way tactical is due to a monstrous Chinese media apparatus that hides the crazy shit that he says, like Taiwanese will need to be "re-educated" after unification. That isn't hyperbole by the way: [https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/reps-probe-illicit-harvest-export-of-7200-male-organs-other-human-parts-to-china/?form=MG0AV3&form=MG0AV3](https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/reps-probe-illicit-harvest-export-of-7200-male-organs-other-human-parts-to-china/?form=MG0AV3&form=MG0AV3)

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I hate the CEO but the model 3 perf is an absolute blast.  We don’t want a second Tesla but having driven myself or my partner all the other EVs available in Australia I have absolutely no idea what to get. Nothing else has been as fun to drive, or had the same user experience as Tesla.  We like some of the Polestar on paper but disliked being behind the drivers wheel. My partner disliked the BYD styling of the Atto interior I liked them on paper and even the exterior styling, the MG are dirt cheap but again even as a second car she didn’t like the drive. Some of the other cars even had Fobs or keys, which for us feels so backwards as our house, workplace and Tesla are all Bluetooth or finger print entry. The entertainment system in the Tesla is second to none, even the higher end European cars felt sluggish. Ours is also one of the older systems and it still feels years ahead of the others. Everyone is bagging Tesla because the CEO is a right wing nutter and the cyber truck is built to be decisive, however the competition in the EV space feels so far behind. The only other EV we kind of liked was the BYD Seal but the safety stuff annoying.    I think it’s such a shit choice to make at the moment will probably postpone buying another EV until we get some better models in Australia or just give in and get a second hand Tesla Y or 3 cheap. Or if a Porsche Taycan pops up cheap, but even then I’d prefer the Tesla as a daily.

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Difficult from a European market. I’m in the UK and been looking at EV prices and I’ve seen in the last few weeks the price fall. It’s also been backed up with analytics of the price market. I also know 2 others who are looking at EV and Tesla’s seem to be off the list due to being seen related to Trump and Musk. Now Trumps comment last night seemed to have really sparked a major upset on this side of the Atlantic. Even people who are traditionally pro Trump I know, can’t believe it. Farage, a friend of Trump, said that this will make “Putin a winner.” European press, including right wing press (including ones owned by Murdoch) see it as shameful. I don’t think we’ve necessarily realised how much this has rocked the boat now in Europe and massively upset people and countries. There’s reports that some oil companies have started to refuse supplying the US navy. This has seemed to be the whole talk of everyone I know, including people who are not normally political. I know a few FTSI 100 companies who use Tesla as company and pool cars have been discussing whether the end the contract for a few weeks now. This I can see being accelerated now. I can see people finding it harder to keep their Tesla’s and will need to keep an eye on the second hand market prices. Although in the U.K. new 25 number plates are issued from today so the second hand market prices tend to drop a little as a lot of PCP/finance cars are back on the market as people like new plates so may skew prices for a couple of weeks. Volkswagen stems from the predecessor of the Nazi party and is still a popular car company today but was taken over by the British and was turned into how we see it today by them. Other European brands such as BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Hugo boss, Siemens all exist today and have deep roots in the Nazi party and are still around today. From my perspective TSLA needs to drop Musk fast as a public facing director or any involvement to stay relevant in the EU. I can see him being public with the company and the US political situation isn’t going to give a good perception to the brand. Another thing to complicate is that European brands such as Mercedes, Volvo and Cupra have come out with good EV’s and make Tesla less of the obvious choice. Also we’ve had a swath of Chinese brands also land and I know 2 people with MG and BYD respective. Is Tesla likely to be okay in the states? Possibly but I don’t understand the US political situation enough. European market is however significantly damaged

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If there's any gap between Tesla and the rest it's rapidly closing. I would argue it's already closed. Hyundai/Kia, BYD, Volvo, VW, MG etc all have competitive offers where I live. When you then consider the very public antics of their CEO and his alienation of the consumer group most likely to purchase EVs, you have to wonder what the strategy is. Then you have the scrapping of the model 2 making the release of the cyber truck thwir biggest innovation fo the past 4 years, plus the perpetual failed promises of FSD. Where is Teslas room for growth from here?

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In Australia, MG4 are outselling Teslas now, both are made in China, the MG starts at about AU$33000, the Tesla Model 3 is about AU$55000

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20MG with 5mg Prozac is my routine

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China was always going to come from behind. Byd, Xiaomi, LeapMotors, MG, everyone started buying them 'cause they‘re so much cheaper, being subsidised by the Chinese Government. Also, every car company now manufactures electric cars, and with good mileage, too. So, why would I buy a Tesla now, when there is so much competition?

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Not all MG cars in India are electric if I remember right but I could be wrong. Also 2023 was an unusual high sales year for MG. If you look at their sales in 2024, they are barely selling 1000 EVs a month. https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/289653-december-2024-indian-car-sales-figures-analysis.html

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Correct, some analysts are saying that they might launch the vehicle in India at a loss price of 20 lakh rupees or 22,000 USD. If they do this than it will directly compete against the Tata and MG motors in India. For context, MG motors sold 56,000 EVs in 2023 in India.

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Yeah, I was referring to BYD. MG4 is from SAIC, which is known for building decent cars, but so advanced in EV R&D (SAIC is a state owned company by Shanghai Gov)

A lot of new Chinese EV brands on the market in Europe right now. Aiways / BYD / Dongfeng / Hongqi / Leapmotor / Lynk & Co / NIO / Seres / Voyah / Xpeng / Zeekr plus they also bought old European brands and electrified them Lotus / MG / Polestar / Smart and to a degree Volvo.

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Australia’s cheapest full EV (the MG4) is $35000 Australian, which equates to $22300 in USD.

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SAIC has a sizable presence in Europe through MG, though.

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Have you been to Spain? Most cars are not Dacia and MG, they’re the same as any other cars in any other country in Western Europe - BMWs, Mercedes, Audi, Opel, Seat, Cupra, Peugeot, Renault. Spain also has a very low tolerance for fascism - probably because a lot of the people who experienced Franco’s gov are still alive. Probably why they’ve taken extra umbridge at Musk.

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To be fair Spain's EV market is virtually inexistent (as their charger network) and most sold gas cars are usually Dacia, MG or some other super cheap brand. Combine that with the end of the benefits for buying EVs and Elon's shenanigans and I am surprised it is not down 100%

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I just bought my second EV in Australia. First was a Model 3, this new one was an MG4. Hard to imagine buying another Tesla now, even for the fact that the depreciation alone has been horrible.

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Here in Mexico Chinese cars (BYD, Geely, MG, GEM, etc) are selling A LOT in the past year . Not many Tesla's, though.

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The exchange adjusts the order book by the amount of the dividend: https://www.finra.org/rules-guidance/rulebooks/finra-rules/5330?form=MG0AV3

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They're basically limited to the United States as far as vehicle markets with any growth potential, they're quickly becoming outmatched everywhere else by the Chinese and even one or two legacy players. It's changed very quickly as the likes of MG, Great Wall, BYD, Hyundai/Kia have finally caught them in quality and performance over the past 2 years.

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> South Korea leads the way along with Tesla I can tell you are in America since you don’t know about the Chinese car makers. Literally besides Tesla every single other car maker is playing catch up to BYD, Geely, MG, etc. And then there’s pricing. Just south of San Diego, in Tijuana, you can get a fully electric SUV for the price of a shitty Ioniq. There’s no doubt why both Biden and Trump was/is so desperate on putting tariffs on Chinese EVs

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Meanwhile: Volvo, Skoda and Hyundai also dropped \~ +40%; MG at least -20% and Audi \~10%, BUT muh "Musk=Hitler, Mangoman=Hitler, Americans=Hitler" commie jibber-jabber... Norwegians also increased sales of Ford (they buying F-150s now? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)) and fuckin' Nissan, so I wouldn't put too much stock into their car-buying decisions. USA has a certain 'credit score=580' demographic, what's Norway's excuse? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)

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Tariff's War Ahead ! Advanced Options Strategy for Trading a U.S.-Canada Tariff War (Complex & Profitable) # Advanced Options Trading Strategies for a 25% U.S. Tariff Impact on Canada 🚀 **"Tariff's Scenario Trader" Playbook: High-Probability, Multi-Leg Option $trategies** This will focus on **leveraging volatility, sector rotation, and directional biases** using **spreads, butterflies, and ratio strategies**. # 📌 1. Short CAD Weakness with a Put Spread on FXC (Invesco Canadian Dollar ETF) 📉 **Trade Thesis:** A tariff war will weaken CAD. FXC (Invesco CurrencyShares Canadian Dollar Trust) tracks CAD/USD. # 🔹 $trategy: Bear Put Spread (Directional Downside on CAD) * **Buy** 1x **FXC $72 Put** (Long) * **Sell** 1x **FXC $70 Put** (Short) * Expiry: **3 months out** (to catch prolonged tariff impact) * **Net Debit**: Around **$0.80 – $1.00 per spread** 🔴 **Why?** * Limited downside risk with a max profit at $70 strike. * CAD depreciation due to tariffs benefits this play. # 📌 2. Exploit Canadian Auto Weakness via Ratio Put Spread on Magna International (MG.TO) 📉 **Trade Thesis:** Auto stocks like **Magna (MG.TO)** face supply chain disruptions, labor layoffs, and declining demand. # 🔹 Strategy: 1x2 Ratio Put Spread (Bearish, Volatility Play) * **Buy** 1x **Magna $55 Put** (ITM) * **Sell** 2x **Magna $50 Puts** (OTM) * Expiry: **Next 2-3 months** * **Net Credit**: Around **$1.50 - $2.00 per spread** 🔴 **Why?** * This **profits if Magna drops to \~$50** due to tariffs. * If Magna **falls too much**, losses are capped due to the long $55 put. * **Ideal in high volatility scenarios** (tariff fear spikes implied volatility). # 📌 3. Long U.S. Steel (NUE) via a Call Debit Spread 📈 **Trade Thesis:** If Canadian steel/aluminum gets hit with tariffs, U.S. steelmakers (like **Nucor - NUE**) benefit from reduced competition. # 🔹 Strategy: Bull Call Spread (Directional Upside) * **Buy** 1x **NUE $140 Call** (Long) * **Sell** 1x **NUE $150 Call** (Short) * Expiry: **2 months** * **Net Debit**: \~$3.00 🔴 **Why?** * Limited risk, **max profit if NUE rises above $150**. * NUE **historically surges** during steel tariffs (2018 trade war). # 📌 4. High-Volatility Butterfly on Suncor (SU.TO) 🎭 **Trade Thesis:** Oil reacts strongly to tariffs. **If Canadian oil exports get hit**, Suncor will see increased volatility. # 🔹 Strategy: Long Straddle Butterfly (Volatility Play) * **Buy** 1x [**SU.TO**](http://SU.TO) **$40 Call** * **Buy** 1x [**SU.TO**](http://SU.TO) **$40 Put** * **Sell** 2x [**SU.TO**](http://SU.TO) **$42 Calls** * **Sell** 2x [**SU.TO**](http://SU.TO) **$38 Puts** * Expiry: **1 month** * **Net Debit**: \~$1.50 🔴 **Why?** * **Wins big if oil markets swing massively**. * If Suncor moves **above $42 or below $38**, this trade profits. * If oil remains stable, losses are limited to the debit paid. # 📌 5. Selling Fear with a Put Credit Spread on XLE (U.S. Energy ETF) 📈 **Trade Thesis:** U.S. energy companies **benefit if Canadian oil supply drops** (leading to higher U.S. crude prices). # 🔹 Strategy: Bull Put Spread (Selling Downside Fear) * **Sell** 1x **XLE $75 Put** * **Buy** 1x **XLE $70 Put** * Expiry: **1-2 months** * **Net Credit**: \~$1.50 🔴 **Why?** * This bet **profits if XLE stays above $75**. * **Collect premium from high implied volatility**, which typically spikes during trade war fears. # 🔥 Bonus: Hedge with a VIX Call Debit Spread 📈 **Trade Thesis:** Tariff news **spikes market volatility**. If the S&P 500 drops, VIX (market volatility index) surges. # 🔹 Strategy: Bull Call Spread on VIX * **Buy** 1x **VIX $16 Call** * **Sell** 1x **VIX $20 Call** * Expiry: **1 month (short-term hedge)** * **Net Debit**: \~$0.90 🔴 **Why?** * If tariffs cause panic, **VIX explodes**, making this spread very profitable. # 📊 Portfolio Allocation & Risk Management * **CAD Weakness Play** → 20% * **Auto Short Play** → 20% * **Steel Long Play** → 15% * **Oil Volatility Play** → 15% * **Energy Stability Play** → 15% * **VIX Hedge** → 15% # 📝 Final Thoughts 🔹 **Best Case**: * CAD weakens → FXC put spread prints 💰. * Magna drops → Ratio spread wins. * U.S. steel rises → NUE call spread profits. * Oil swings → Suncor butterfly explodes. 🔹 **Worst Case (Low Impact Tariffs or Reversal)**: * FXC CAD trade fails (but limited loss). * Magna stabilizes (ratio spread loss is minimal). * Suncor remains flat (butterfly loss is contained). * VIX doesn’t spike (small loss on hedge). **🚀 This is a professional-grade, multi-layered tariff trade strategy.** **Share yor plays....**

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Why are you all being such babies about tariffs? Anyone with a cursory knowledge of history understands that tariffs and isolationism are extremely effective tools. The Smoot-Hawley Act of 1930 and resulting retaliation led to a spike in the cost of everything, hastening America’s descent into the Great Depression. This turned a nation of candy-asses dancing and drinking their way through the 1920s into cold-hearted brutes with nothing to lose, willing to charge into the face of oncoming MG42 machine gun fire. Dear leader knows that we have become weak and soft. The intentional collapse of our economy affords us the opportunity to test our intestinal fortitude.

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Scam, products are overpriced in the Canna Cabana online store. I pay way cheaper than HT products. How about 1500MG 9 10 x 150 MG ) for 32 bucks.

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High tide club prices are more expensive than where I buy. I get a box of 1500MG ( 10 gummies of 150MG ) gummies for 32 bucks. High Tide sells them by the unit of $4.99 to $6..99 for 10MG.

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What do you mean? Maybe i just missunderstand it. There are a lot other car companies in Europe, at least in the market, or to you mean with european ownership? Ownership you forgot BMW and Mercedes, they are both on a good way to make it. BMW was around 100g CO2, they need 93g. With a big/growing market share: KIA/Hyundai Volvo (Geely, Polestar) BYD MG

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I was just in Thailand until yesterday and many many people drove EV’s. BYD, MG, Toyota etc. Nobody in Asia wants a Tesla. They want service centers with local customer support.

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BYD, MG are big ones right now. The US put 100% tarrifs on them, so you won't see too many there. But in the EU (which has tarrifs, but not nearly that) you're seeing a bunch show up, and most other places they're outselling the US brands I believe. The price differences are pretty big - an MG which has similar specs to a Tesla is less than half the price in Spain, even after the tarriff.

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MG Coin

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Buying a little bit of MG7 minus TSLA. Wanted to invest for long term anyway and was holding cash, seems like this is a good opportunity.

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Yeah dude BYD is nuts. Also a lot of Ora’s on the road, Havals, GWMs, MG’s etc etc. I’ve ridden in all as a passenger in taxis and they seem really nice and good quality.

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MG is 100 year old British car brand, they were all over London when I went.

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Norwegian here. The model Y - just the model, not the brand Tesla - was 25% of all new cars sales here for a while. But the customer care agencies report that 90% of all car-related complaints are Tesla. It's just American cars all over: Shitty quality at low prices. Why would you buy this twice when Kia/Hyundai is ten times better, BYD/SAIC/MG much cheaper? I drive Teslas regularly and phantom braking etc. with TACC means these cars don't even have working cruise control. The rain sensors are still useless and there's no stalk for wipers, just a screen on the TM3. The list goes on.

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I hadn't even heard of MG 2 years ago now there's 6 on my street, all electric (London)

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Link us to an example of an Chinese EV on sale and its failed EURO NCAP test.  (Hint: this isn't possible since they can't be sold if they fail.) The MG4, top 3 bestselling Chinese EV in most EU countries has a 5 star rating.

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Yep I'm not denying that, I meant more that the EVs/charging infrastructure is a lot better there than here As a consumer, I'd like a more affordable EV (MG Cyberster, Xiaomi SU7 please), especially after we were promised an affordable Tesla Model 3 and the "upcoming" Model 2/Q

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[BITCOIN Act of 2024 (S. 4912) - GovTrack.us](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/s4912?form=MG0AV3) This bill has a . . . **3%** chance of getting past committee. **2%** chance of being enacted.

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Can't decide which car to buy: lynk and co 03+ vs MG 7 vs Changan Uni - V sport The latter 2 have automatic spoilers that pop out in sport mode. But the lynk and co just looks so much more sexier. All cost around $25k

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* Submitted article mirror: https://archive.is/8IL0g   - "U.S. Geological Survey Releases 2022 List of Critical Minerals" by Communications and Publishing (February 22, 2022): https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news-release/us-geological-survey-releases-2022-list-critical-minerals - "2022 list of critical minerals FAQs" by Communications and Publishing (February 22, 2022): https://www.usgs.gov/media/files/2022-list-critical-minerals-faqs   * "China bans exports to US of gallium, germanium, antimony in response to chip sanctions" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 3, 2024): https://apnews.com/article/china-us-tech-semiconductor-chip-gallium-6b4216551e200fb719caa6a6cc67e2a4 , https://archive.is/hU1o0 * "China tightens export controls on dual-use items to the US: MOFCOM" by Global Times (December 3, 2024): https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324263.shtml , https://archive.is/GH4Pa * "Four Chinese industry associations call on companies to exercise caution when purchasing US chips after latest US export restrictions" by Global Times (December 3, 2024): https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324269.shtml , https://archive.is/MG5h4 * "China Bans Rare Mineral Exports to the U.S." "The move escalates supply chain warfare and comes a day after the Biden administration expanded curbs on the sale of advanced American technology to China." by David Pierson, Keith Bradsher, and Ana Swanson (December 3, 2024): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/03/world/asia/china-minerals-semiconductors.html , https://archive.is/OhidB * "Explainer: After China's mineral export ban, how else could it respond to U.S. chip curbs?" by Eduardo Baptista (December 3, 2024): https://www.reuters.com/technology/how-china-could-retaliate-against-new-us-chip-curbs-2024-12-03/ , https://archive.is/3RGrO * "China’s Trade Reprisals May Extend to Minerals Like Rare Earths" by Bloomberg News (December 3, 2024): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-04/china-s-trade-reprisals-may-extend-to-minerals-like-rare-earths , https://archive.is/pOnM2 * "China hits back at U.S. with export ban on rare minerals" by Ivana Saric (December 3, 2024): https://www.axios.com/2024/12/03/china-trade-ban-minerals-biden-trump , https://archive.is/TT2FX * China export ban a boon for local minerals producers" by Elouise Fowler (December 4, 2024): https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/china-export-ban-a-boon-for-local-minerals-producers-20241204-p5kvr0 , https://archive.is/7kSQS * "China’s ban on key high-tech materials could have broad impact on industries, economy" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 6, 2024) -- "Beijing’s announcement also extends its ban on exporting Chinese-produced gallium and other critical minerals to the U.S. to apply to all countries, entities and individuals, saying violators will “be held accountable according to law.”": https://apnews.com/article/china-us-gallium-critical-tech-ban-711fdfcb7c09e0e0e6374192fd2e24fa , https://archive.is/Xqgqh * "China fine tunes economic stimulus as it braces for new US administration" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 6, 2024): https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-trade-tariffs-trump-34b679dee550b687d6da02a011abc021 , https://archive.is/FrQP9 * "China’s Mineral Export Ban Strikes at the US Defense Industrial Base" "The U.S. defense industry could experience short-term mineral shortages and higher prices – not to mention the impact on the U.S. economy more broadly." by Gregory Wischer, Morgan Bazilian, and Jahara “Franky” Matisek (December 6, 2024): https://thediplomat.com/2024/12/chinas-mineral-export-ban-strikes-at-the-us-defense-industrial-base/ , https://archive.is/0A62F * "China’s Critical Minerals Embargo Is Even Tougher Than Expected" "Beijing ordered companies around the world not to allow critical minerals mined in China to reach the U.S., while deepening its efforts to replace imports with domestic products." by Keith Bradsher (December 9, 2024): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/business/china-critical-minerals.html , https://archive.is/8IL0g * "Paulson-Backed Perpetua Strikes Antimony Pact to Blunt China Ban" by Joe Deaux (December 9, 2024): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-09/paulson-backed-perpetua-strikes-antimony-pact-to-blunt-china-ban , https://archive.is/TPdxw  

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Yeah like MG.

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How about a MK 20 Rh 202 auto cannon with a co-ax MG 3?

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- "U.S. Geological Survey Releases 2022 List of Critical Minerals" by Communications and Publishing (February 22, 2022): https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news-release/us-geological-survey-releases-2022-list-critical-minerals - "2022 list of critical minerals FAQs" by Communications and Publishing (February 22, 2022): https://www.usgs.gov/media/files/2022-list-critical-minerals-faqs   * "China bans exports to US of gallium, germanium, antimony in response to chip sanctions" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 3, 2024): https://apnews.com/article/china-us-tech-semiconductor-chip-gallium-6b4216551e200fb719caa6a6cc67e2a4 , https://archive.is/hU1o0 * "China tightens export controls on dual-use items to the US: MOFCOM" by Global Times (December 3, 2024): https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324263.shtml , https://archive.is/GH4Pa * "Four Chinese industry associations call on companies to exercise caution when purchasing US chips after latest US export restrictions" by Global Times (December 3, 2024): https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324269.shtml , https://archive.is/MG5h4 * "China Bans Rare Mineral Exports to the U.S." "The move escalates supply chain warfare and comes a day after the Biden administration expanded curbs on the sale of advanced American technology to China." by David Pierson, Keith Bradsher, and Ana Swanson (December 3, 2024): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/03/world/asia/china-minerals-semiconductors.html , https://archive.is/OhidB * "Explainer: After China's mineral export ban, how else could it respond to U.S. chip curbs?" by Eduardo Baptista (December 3, 2024): https://www.reuters.com/technology/how-china-could-retaliate-against-new-us-chip-curbs-2024-12-03/ , https://archive.is/3RGrO * "China’s Trade Reprisals May Extend to Minerals Like Rare Earths" by Bloomberg News (December 3, 2024): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-04/china-s-trade-reprisals-may-extend-to-minerals-like-rare-earths , https://archive.is/pOnM2 * "China hits back at U.S. with export ban on rare minerals" by Ivana Saric (December 3, 2024): https://www.axios.com/2024/12/03/china-trade-ban-minerals-biden-trump , https://archive.is/TT2FX * China export ban a boon for local minerals producers" by Elouise Fowler (December 4, 2024): https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/china-export-ban-a-boon-for-local-minerals-producers-20241204-p5kvr0 , https://archive.is/7kSQS * "China’s ban on key high-tech materials could have broad impact on industries, economy" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 6, 2024) -- "Beijing’s announcement also extends its ban on exporting Chinese-produced gallium and other critical minerals to the U.S. to apply to all countries, entities and individuals, saying violators will “be held accountable according to law.”": https://apnews.com/article/china-us-gallium-critical-tech-ban-711fdfcb7c09e0e0e6374192fd2e24fa , https://archive.is/Xqgqh * "China fine tunes economic stimulus as it braces for new US administration" by Elaine Kurtenbach (December 6, 2024): https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-trade-tariffs-trump-34b679dee550b687d6da02a011abc021 , https://archive.is/FrQP9 * "China’s Mineral Export Ban Strikes at the US Defense Industrial Base" "The U.S. defense industry could experience short-term mineral shortages and higher prices – not to mention the impact on the U.S. economy more broadly." by Gregory Wischer, Morgan Bazilian, and Jahara “Franky” Matisek (December 6, 2024): https://thediplomat.com/2024/12/chinas-mineral-export-ban-strikes-at-the-us-defense-industrial-base/ , https://archive.is/0A62F  

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You mean get a bailout? On what basis will they recover. Besides merging with the next brand and rebodying their cars with some 'Jeep' stuff the last car developed by Chrysler was? What exactly? First merged the crap with Fiat and made little shit 'Jeeps' from Fiat's, absorbed PSA and did the same from Peugeot's. They are just slowly flaming out, fully intentional. Just cut cost by cutting development, make some 'new cars' from altering existing models to a 'new' one from a different brand and jack-up spare part prices as if it's a Toyota (but those spares you don't need that often and actually last, where with Stellantis half the car is 'consumable'. Really that dogshit of a company needs to die asap so the shit shareholders bleed now. They just do an MG-Rover on steroids.

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Thanks for bringing it up, VW is not doing too bad on EVs in Europe as I thought. That said, just as MG is Chinese, not british, Volvo cars is Chinese too.

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Chinese automakers aren't outselling VW in Europe. From Q1 to Q3 2024 there's only a single Chinese model in the Europe top 20, the MG4, [see here](https://alternative-fuels-observatory.ec.europa.eu/general-information/news/september-2024-european-electric-vehicle-market-resumes-growth). The Chinese aren't currently as strong and significant of a force as many people claim, although that may, and likely will change. VW is in trouble currently because they've lived very well off the Chinese ICE market, but since you basically can't get an ICE vehicle registered there anymore, the consumers are buying EVs. Unfortunately VW's EV lineup, while decent, really doesn't appeal to the Chinese, so they lose sales in China. The Europe sales are fine, although VW obviously has higher ambitions when it comes to EV sales. The workers aren't going to get a raise, they're laughably overpaid already in a German context, to the point where many people have little sympathy with them. VW needs to get it oversized bureaucracy and managment overhead in order, focus on quality software experiences and lower their prices to gain market share. The car industry as whole is having a hard time right now, it's not unique to VW. They're not going away. Having said that, I wouldn't touch their stock.

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Sell 50% move to VOO Buy a transferable MG with the other part Go to Wendy's and say hi to the rest of us. We in the back dumpster. It's unlocked. No need to knock.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/s/05MG7AWbbS

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Toyota Hilux and mounted MG. Name a more perfect combo.

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[Legal Zoom](https://www.legalzoom.com/marketing/business-formation/llc?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=legalzoom%20start%20an%20llc&utm_content=663289797831&utm_campaign=Brand%20|%20SMB%20|%20Exact&utm_campaignID=964378701&utm_adgroupID=119287617591&utm_partner=googlesearch&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0MG5BhD1ARIsAEcZtwSlxaKFOqSegUyX_kQtSvTsZddWFYmmJcV49IHVxgifoYe4C1eicA8aAuuLEALw_wcB)

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Thanks for all the details! The traditional IRA sounds like the best option. I could set up a new one and max out that contribution. But my wife and I file separately so that she doesn’t take such a big hit on the Public Service Loan Forgiveness monthly repayment calculation. So from what I’m seeing here, I can’t get the deduction? https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/ira-contribution-limits?utm_source=goog&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=in_mktg_paid_050924_investing_dsa_mobile&utm_term=&utm_content=ta&mktg_hline=19335&mktg_body=2989&mktg_place=dsa-2303771781320&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADfKLw2Aih-POae055IfINMxK7nep&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0MG5BhD1ARIsAEcZtwRo50OcQ8AJzmMXGnkKjsF2ZJiHyYJ-BkRcrfLioUbg5eLzKA8Yi40aApDOEALw_wcB

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Australian Tesla sales have fallen off a cliff in October down almost 50% MoM. MG has taken the top spot for the first time and total Tesla sales are less than the MG4. Model 3 was particularly hard hit falling from 1151 sales in September to 422 sales in October. The best-selling EVs in October 2024 were: * MG MG4 – 1486 sales (Sept 386) * Tesla Model Y – 1042 sales (Sept 1498) * Tesla Model 3 – 422 sales (Sept 1151)

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VKTX's obesity drug is a 100 MG daily dose ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) No wonder it fell so hard.

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~~west~~ America BYD, MG etc are all over AUS, NZ, UK, Europe etc

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Whilst vacationing in Europe I drove an MG which I believe is a Chinese company. (Google says it’s a Brit company owned by China) It was very nice to drive

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My morning routine? Double espresso with a 6 MG zyn, then get ready for weekday casino opening while taking a shit, then having an incredible shit and blasting bidet water into my anoos. Life is really about the simple things

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>I guess the thing people should ask, and what I should check into is, are Chinese battery manufacturers selling batteries to US and non-Chinese automakers at the same price that they are going to Chinese automakers? If the US is being charged a mark up, then why shouldn't we tariff the hell out of Chinese EVs? At the end of the day, the consumer is all that matters. Tariffs are stopping consumers from accessing well priced products. What batteries are going into American EVs? From what I can remember, they aren't Chinese batteries. Except for Chinese built Tesla's, but the American market don't get them. The rest of your post shows that you just don't know the Chinese market - MG4, GWM Ora, BYD Dolphin. Those three hatchbacks are sold in Australia for the equivalent of $20k USD. $20k. Brand New, brand new 5+ year warranty.

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You are right Queasy, you caught me! I’m bag holding! I will never sell brother! But was just putting it on your radar friend! Siri will start popping today and into next week. GME week of the 29th! I also like FNMA, FMCC, MG, deep penny stocks AAGR, AND XBOT, but that’s just me and my bag holding (: I hope you are able to find gains and fulfillment in the same stock the way GME has given me over the years!

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I said go read and educate about a stock, in return I get bashed. That’s fair! You are right, I got DIAMOND HANDS, HODL, never sell brother! But was just putting it on your radar friend! Siri will start popping today and into next week. GME week of the 29th! I also like FNMA, FMCC, MG, deep penny stocks AAGR, AND XBOT, but that’s just me and my bag holding (: I hope you are able to find gains and fulfillment in the same stock the way GME has given me over the years!

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I love your negative attention! I said go read and educate about a stock, in return I get bashed. That’s fair! You are right, I never sold, never intend too, never sell brother! But I was trying to be helpful putting it on your radar friend! Siri will start popping today and into next week. GME week of the 29th! I also like FNMA, FMCC, MG, deep penny stocks AAGR, AND XBOT, but that’s just me and my bag holding (: I hope you are able to find gains and fulfillment in the same stock the way GME has given me over the years!

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There are few people I've been more disappointed in than MG

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Your comment reminds me of the MG EXCELSUS fight in Metal Gear Rising: Revengence.

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Even better, I'd do that in a heartbeat if I had a Costco membership. 100MG, might need a new roof after taking one of those.

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I take Sildenafil since MS has basically nuked the nerve endings down there. My prescription for ten 50MG pills is $6. Hims charges $4 a pill, or $40 for the same prescription I have. I get that Hims provides a discrete way to get these drugs, but if a day comes where men decide to just be honest with their doctor, Hims could be cooked. They offer a good product but they have a lot of competition and their only real advantage in my eyes is that people don't like talking about this subject with their doctor.

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