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3.6k to 43k in a week. Got lucky and got SPY puts when it peaked. PPI announced and was deep in the money.
Is there anyone who holds or entered bullish positions today?
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The April producer price index (PPI) report showed both headline and core producer prices unexpectedly declining on a M/M basis. The May consumer sentiment is expected to come in at 53.1.The import/export prices report will also come out today. Happy Friday.
Whats,the,deal with PPI? Or just very volatile? Seems alot of data is now outdated.. Or was? Waiting for a tsunami.. Might be short though
Crypto market looking strong. Maybe a good day I mean the last few days were hella dumpy with all that PPI and stuff. Let's pump until one hour before close 
When was the last time he was right? CPI and PPI were both unexpectedly lower this week, so....
Saying this when CPI & PPI are dropping like a rock is not only stupid it's counterintuitive. When deflation takes hold he's going to be praying for inflation!
Tariffs were always a weapon to force nations to the negotiating table, which it did. A baseline of tariffs will remain, around 10%. Tariffs don't cause inflation, they are deflationary. PPI came in negative last month, a huge miss of expectations. If tariffs are inflationary, why do some of the nations with the highest tariffs not have sky high inflation? China has some of the highest tariffs and trade barriers in the world, no raging inflation. Trump's tariffs on China in his first term were around 20%, but inflation only increased no more than 2%.
You got saved by the Putin and Meta dump. We had one of the best PPI data. Market hated the margin compression. But it’s temporary.
Just so we're clear, let me get this straight. PPI came in at -0.5% on expectations of 0.2%, and all the deflationists are claiming victory. Meanwhile revisions to last month add 0.7%, a huge increase. In fact, I'm no math genius but 0.7% - 0.5% = 0.2%, exactly the increase that was expected. But the efficient market is pushing yields through the floor because muh deflation, even though their flawed methodology is likely to lead to more massive upward revisions in the future. We might even end up positive for the month. What a smart market.
Looking under the hood of the PPI numbers, the decrease in PPI was accompanied by margin compression, meaning producers were eating/absorbing the increased costs for now. That isn’t likely to last.
Funny thing about PPI being low this month is they revised the March data higher lol
SPY up 0.5% today off of... PPI being better than expected? Why didn't it shoot up in the morning if that were the case? So far SPY is up about 6.1% from it's lows last 5 trading sessions crazy Can see this dumping back down to $585 EOD
Europoors went to bed. No more fomo. Now we wait for Trump to celebrate the CPI/PPI and claim that tariffs are not inflationary. 
Which markets are you asking about? Equity? Bond? US? UK? If you are asking about US equity markets - there isn't as much liquidity in the early AM - and there was some news expected in the US - such as WMT earnings, PPI, etc. It could have been volatility from any number of reasons.
Numbers for PPI showed we are just starting to show cracks. Walmart revised their "we will eat" and now it is raising prices. Next quarter should be a fun earnings!
Trying to wrap my head around these PPI numbers Did sellers just eat the tariff costs this month like Walmart suggested, is the BLS cooking numbers, or both
Word on the street is PPI made a large amount of firms move to Risk-On. You heard it here first. Tech is gonna moon over the next 3-4 weeks.
Word on the street is PPI made a large amount of firms move to Risk-On. You heard it here first. Tech is gonna moon over the next 3-4 weeks.
The news cycle is so bearish. no rate cuts (in fact rate hikes likely) -fraudulent companies- bad PPI. And yet here we are, looking at a completely rigged pile of shit market that hasn’t consolidated in over a month after a record shattering rise. Unbelievable waste of time.
PPI numbers indicate a much worse scenario than anticipated before. Today is the first reaction, tomorrow might even go up a bit, but Monday SPY will be below 480. 
None of the leading indicators of inflation support this. PPI is a pussyhair away from being at a 4 year low
To put this in context... Final demand for services in April 2025 fell by 0.7%. In April, May, and June 2020 total final demand for services fell by 0.2%, 0.2%, and 0.3%, respectively. In other words the fall in April 2025 is equal to the \*combined\* fall in demand during the peak of the COVID pandemic. In full disclosure, the goods PPI numbers were far worse and lower during COVID. For example, Final deman for Energy fell 19% in April 2020 (remember when WTI was negative?). I'm not prepared to say that demand is still plummeting, but I'm pretty darn sure it plummeted.
You know they got the scam running on all cylinders when the market won’t even flinch after a month without consolidation and a bearish PPI.
Buying the 10 yr at 5.5% is a buying opportunity with PPI at 2.4%. The market will do what the market does to enact max pain.
PPI, CPI, core retail sales, retail sales, manufacturing index- everything has collapsed.
Why would we be ripping on negative PPI, especially in services? It's proving that the world at large is pissed as fuck at the orange man. Deflation is fucking terrifying.
Its only red because of UNH. PPI is good so bounce at open
Negative PPI with high interest rates is so unbelievably bearish that calls will somehow print.
Secret tip from my days working on Wall Street: no one knows what any of these data points are, they just made up letters and numbers and claimed they stood for something so we didn't look stupid. "Oh, yes, final demand PPI, that's uhhh, that's bullish? That's when the demand, well, it's gotta be final, and then your PPI of course, is tied right in. Anyway, 3% management fee."
The thing is, March PPI was also crazy low. If tariff frontrunning were really the driver you'd expect to see it surge, then drop. Combine that with cool CPI prints three months running and... I don't really get why everyone keeps celebrating these low inflation prints. A boiling hot economy doesn't have issues with unexpected deflation.
PPI and unemployment numbers were bullish, so I don’t see why not
Downvote gang in full force today. Probably a salty bear who was hoping for 5% PPI and got a nothing burger.
PPI? More like my PP ouch
Looks like there was a lot of margin compression going on in Q1. This put PPI negative for April (from the report released today). Because inputs didn't actually get any cheaper, as indicated by these results, we might see a spring effect on PPI by May or June.
Overall PPI decline is more indicative of a soft landing, but hey, everyone can make their own call.
How the hell did PPI fall lol
> The decline was largely driven by a 0.7% drop in service costs We had such a decline in April 2020 when Covid hit, so it might come from rapidly decreasing demand for services, right? So overall together with the retail sales indicators i would read that as slowing economy. Walmart said in it's earning round today that they expect price hikes and they can't eat the tariffs completely even at the reduced levels. I would not overrate the PPI impact on the inflation outlook therefore.
Go check the reasons why PPI was low.
jesus we get a deflationary PPI print and bad retail sales, and long term yields STILL dont drop. This is bad.
The PPI news is awful. Goods are unchanged, but demand for services have plummeted, causing deflation. Services make up 78% of the US GDP. This means that we're going into a recession.
Treasuries tank on the news of negative PPI  this market is something else
Why the fook would they increase rates with PPI lower?
But PPI is down -0.5% while +0.3% was expected. Producer prices are down. Doesn’t make sense, but they are
With PPI below expectations, and the labor economy not that bad, chances of rate increase?
Imagine being a TLT bull. PPI went negative and bonds still didn't rally  puts are free money
If TLT can’t rally on -.5% PPI idk how to help the TLT bulls.
Tariffs are excluded from PPI right? This means that tariffs could reduce PPI because of suppliers splitting the cost of the tariffs with the importer by lowering the overall price of the imported good.
Big margin suppression in that PPI report due to tariffs. Price hikes are surely coming
be nice if restaurants noticed the PPI service decline  "would you like to tip 35%, 40%, or 45%?"
🔍 Breakdown of the Data: Actual PPI MoM: -0.5% Forecast: +0.2% Previous: 0.0% ✅ Why This Is Bullish: Inflation Surprise to the Downside: A negative PPI means wholesale prices fell, indicating easing inflation. This is much lower than expected, signaling that inflationary pressures may be subsiding faster than anticipated. Rate Cut Expectations Increase: Lower inflation gives the Federal Reserve more room to cut rates sooner. This is generally very bullish for stocks, especially growth names like tech and semiconductors. Market Sentiment Shift: The market has been nervous due to sticky inflation. This surprise drop can improve sentiment rapidly. You may see a rebound in equities and call options react positively at market open. ⚠️ What to Watch: Follow-through confirmation from tomorrow’s CPI (Consumer Price Index) data. Market open price action — if futures reverse on this news, it confirms the market sees it as bullish. Whether the Fed acknowledges this drop in upcoming comments. Conclusion: Yes — a sharp downside miss in PPI is typically bullish for equities and options, especially if CPI aligns tomorrow.
Retail sales, jobless claims, NY Fed, all worse than expected and PPI cratered (because the tariffed goods are still in transit according to Walmart 20 minutes ago)
And the PPI / Jobs numbers look bad. WMT gonna dip, and then dip again after the Powell comments this afternoon. Gonna lock in 5/16 puts at the open
PPI good or bad? Not looking at the report 
I love PPI 
PPI - Powell's Pecker Index And it's a big pecker 
PPI huge miss: PPI -0.5% MoM, Exp. 0.2% PPI Core -0.4% MoM. Exp.0.3% PPI 2.4% YoY, Exp. 2.5% PPI Core 3.1% YoY, Exp. 3.1% JEROME POWELL CUT THEM RATES
PPI is very bullish until people realise tariffs are deflationary, inventory dumping will push it down further, and the Fed is asleep.
US Core PPI YoY Actual 3.1% (Forecast 3.1%, Previous 3.3%)
So many people here don't seem to know what PPI actually measures lol
Based on PPI data, I guess WMT is just gonna raise prices for fun 
Holy PPI bers can’t catch a break
US PPI YoY actual 2.4%, below forecast 2.5%, previous 2.7%
PPI needs a hims, it's super soft
When I get older I hope my PPI doesn't leak
Hey guys I found a link hosting PPI leak I'll just check it and
Producer Price Index, inflation on the producer side. Consumer Price Index dropped this Tuesday, came in better than expected. Pending PPI, could affect market. JPow to speak at 8:40, but likely no news on rate cuts. Odds are we’ll see movement on rates in June (good or bad)
I think PPI will be a nothing burger
anyone have leaked PPI i can’t wait 3 min
My PPI is 6.5" pressed bone
6/27 AAPL 235c is only going for a fucking dollar. If a "productive start" pumped 7%, is tweets and pumps with random announcements and more meetings scheduled not a safe bet that between now and 6wks we could easily either hit that or have it get close enough to rip 2-3x? Especially after PPI/Jpow do whatever they do this morning
CPI is lagging. This morning’s PPI may start showing the real story but that could also be about a month behind as well.
PPI is the only event today. Powell will not say anything new
PPI gonna shove a big fat pp in my i socket
I bet half the people here can’t even tell you what PPI stands for lol.
Do people make endless "my peepee is big and hard" jokes each time there's a PPI report?
Although I’m not terribly bullish today, if PPI and JPow make the market happy today this is going to be mega-green.
PPI and JPow before market open. Market is up bigly and people securing profits in case shit hits the fan at 8:30.
What even is a PPI? And does it make my calls go up?
The market will moon. PPI 8:30 am too
You are predicting flat on PPI, Jobless Claims, Powell speech and random Mango in the wild? That may be the boldest prediction I've seen this morning...
Hot PPI makes my peepee go aye 
With Walmart fine, imagine if PPI and retail sales are fine. And then Jpow says fuck your puts 
It's literally been like that the last 3 weeks. Anything to do to pump the market? All bad news completely overlooked. Don't worry about China calling you out the UK us trade deal. Don't worry about distillate diesel supply becoming light. Don't worry about the 10-year treasury. Don't worry about the PPI this morning. Don't worry about what Powell is going to say because hey I got a big TRUTH to tell
Today feels prime for PPI to make market rocket just before JPow dashes all hope being the motherfucker he is.
Can anyone tell me when the PPI data release is set to be published in europoor time?
Just to help you guys out: PPI = 8:30 EDT / 5:30 PDT JPow = 8:40 EDT / 5:40 PDT