SAFE

FickleMeasurement627

SILVER AND GOLD ARE USUALLY SAFE HAVENS FOR WHEN MARKET IS NOT DOING TOO HOT (RED NOT GREEN) and watch the DXY if our dollar strengthens usually gold and silver will inverse that. Just stop buying peoples plays especially when the majority of people here themselves just copy other plays or hail mary gambles. Sometimes people post good DDs and what not but even then its better to learn the market yourself and make your own plays that make sense to what you learned etc. some people only play 0dte spy/spx options some people just gamble random plays. All to say each person who trades usually has their own method or way of trading that works for them. I suck ass playing bonds, and health related stocks so I never do. Idk just some food for thought my man. And dont stress too hard, unless they expire tomorrow or they are for like $100, you still have time for something to happen.

Itsatinyplanet

Why are you still asking about the war? The war is over. We WON. If oil goes over $100 barrel now, it won't be because of the war. Oil prices are going up because the totally corrupt Democrats are trying to rig the midterms by refusing to pass the SAFE act.

AverageNo130

Aug '23 HHS approved cannabis S3. How many years waiting for SAFE banking?

Brilliant_Run8542

[it was pretty low on all importance polls](https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-2024-presidential-vote.aspx) Not to say it didn’t sway certain people. I didn’t vote for Kamala because I live in a SAFE safe blue state for one, and two I couldn’t agree with her foreign policy. I think the man difference is that with Joe Biden he at least campaigned on a stimulus to the economy and getting people workings etc. Hillary and Kamala were campaigning as the “not trump” constituency.

Savings_Refuse_5922

Plan is to pass so many voting laws to disenfranchise voters (SAFE act) and hopefully win that way because they were already cooked pre-Iran...just look at the texas district that swung +35 for dems and had never been blue since it's inception in the 1980s I believe?. Writing is/was already on the wall and they're afraid.

No_Turn5018

That confident that sooner or later the war will end and oil prices will go back down? 1000%. That I can time it out in a profitable way with the products currently available? I mean I guess probably. That's why I'm looking at something with limited loss like buying a put on something tradable.  SCO? I WOULD NEVER REFER TO AS AN INVERSE LEVERAGED ANYTHING ETF AS SAFE. I do think you could predict it was a lot of accuracy as having a strong general downward trend. My basic logic for anything like this would always be try to find a few different products just in case something weird happens. Try to find a hedge in case this ends up being if not the new normal at least the way the rest of the 20s go. 

Savings_Refuse_5922

extrapolate the last few results including that Texas district that hasn't gone blue since it's inception in 1980s that swung like 35 points to the dems and yeah even before Iran it was/is looking like a bloodbath. There's a reason they are trying to push messed up laws like the SAFE act to disenfranchise voters, they see the writing on the wall for November. Two things people can't really believe their lying eyes on; food prices and most of all gas at the pump.

johndsmits

A number of start up founders are expecting this.Mind that a lot of these startups used SAFE notes. That means the VC get something back and the employees/founders are bag holders.

KAI5ER

[https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/04/politics/steve-daines-kurt-alme-trump](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/04/politics/steve-daines-kurt-alme-trump) I assume this has an impact on SAFE banking. (if it still exists)

potato111a

THE SAFE HEAVEN THAT IS .. Gamestore???

Most_Situation3969

Foreigners selling for the SAFE HAVEN Red foreign markets are BULLISH

Proton404x

# I bring the news to you. The question everyone worries about is “ what if Iran has more bombs than we think? What if our government didn’t ‘obliterate’ their nuclear capabilities. They’re trying to have insurances pay for navy ships to escort them through the straight. WAIT THEY’RE PAYING THE UNITED STATES FOR SAFE PASSAGE!!?!? Okay then the next question is, will we EVER see a dime or even justice as payment for these shenanigans. Are they doing it for us? For the people? Is this to benefit us? Looking for yes or no answers 🤣😭

Stryker9110

GETTING HERPES FROM RUSSIAN HOOKERS IS THE TRUE SAFE HAVEN FROM WWIII (talking about MSFT)

captainpoppy

Americans will vote. At least those who can. Kansas just invalidated a portion of their populations licence. The SAFE act or whatever is going to make it harder for women and people who have changed names to vote. ICE is going to be at the ballots. This doesn't even include good ol tactics like just removing polling places from heavily populated dem areas. Oh and Trump getting ready to take over elections. Yay.

Val44x

I THOUGHT CASHING A 5x ON 0DTE WAS BEING SAFE I WAS WRONG LMAO

Grouchy-Lab-6432

So SAFE HEAVEN is Gold, not Bitcoin? So shock, very shock temporary

Brokenandburnt

It's more than one unstable leader if you dig deeper. It's the goal of this administration to foster regime change in Europe and break up the EU. The national security strategy lays it out clearly if you've read it. Furthermore the US is set to sponsor far-right Think-tanks in Europe, to help in this endeavor. Steve Bannon, co-founder of Breitbart the premiere alt-right publication in the world, and Trump's campaign chief for 2016 is currently under investigation for outside interference in internal European politics. The Epstein files has laid out the bread crumbs, and our investigative services are digging. This is all verifiable by a Google with a combination of:\ Bannon connection Europe Epstein Trump All US officials visiting Europe always holds speeches that admonishes us for attacking free speech, which is wild coming from that corner. We in Europe was happy to let US lead. But now the situation has changed. Trump 1 was an aberration, a mistake that was forgivable. Trump 2 highlighted the weakness and polarization of the political system. You _cannot_ gamble the sovereignty of an entire continent on a country where one half of a binary election outcome can mean a hostile administration. The time to act isn't when the issues turns into real problems. The decoupling has started. It will take time, probably a decade or more. It doesn't mean that Europe will sever the connection to the US, it means diversification of trade, domestic tech solutions for cloud services, payment systems, domestic arms manufacturing, our own satellite network etc. And regarding our economies. The US stock markets underperformed international markets last year, and the streak has continued this year. European etf's that has suffered outflows for decades has reversed. Investments into Europe has increased, lead by arms manufacturing stimulus. Contraction has stopped and modest growth was achieved.  Governments aren't forced to shoulder all the debt from the defense build out themselves. The EU controlled SAFE fund offers cheap loans to all participants, funded by leveraging the Unions triple A credit rating to sell bonds and bills. It started with a modest €150B deposit, of that €127B is already extended among 14 interested parties. A new offering is being prepared to refill the fund. Amusingly enough Canada has been allowed to join the fund as well. The only caveat for the loans is "spend in EU", something that upset Trump. They had counted on us spending more on American weapons. I strong suggest reading the NSS, and google Bannon. The source of all right-wing propaganda flooding social media on both sides of the Atlantic begins with him.

Lucky_Platypus341

Yes, but in some sense you already have an EF — your liquid investments and parents. But…think about it this way… If the market suddenly dropped in reaction and your liquid investments were now worth 20k, would you want to sell them if you needed to. Or, if your car needs new tires and you have NO EF, would you want to run to mommy and daddy for $1k? Would you want them to have to liquidate assets in a downturn so you don’t have to? Don’t get me wrong — it’s GREAT having parents that have your back in a REAL emergency and investments (that may be liquid but are higher risk for the higher reward, meaning should be held long term). Same way havin a higher credit limit on a CC is great for instant payment to buy time to access emergency funds. IMO parents should be more “break in case of emergency” not an for smaller “emergencies”. ;) And that’s kinda the point, too. “Emergencies” can mean any unexpected expense you hadn’t budgeted for or it can mean unemployment or something catastrophic. Some people budget for maintenance and repairs (tires, car breaking down, new roof) while others just increase their EF to cover those expenses. Honestly that’s more a bookkeeping issue since both are keeping funds in a HYSA or other safe & liquid account. IMO you want to have enough SAFE LIQUID funds in an EF to cover anything between something-you-can-put-on-your-CC-and-pay-off-in-full-by-the-time-its-due and moving-into-your-parents’-basement type emergency. Maybe that’s a lot lower amount, say 2mo expenses, than someone who doesn’t have the backup.

ElectronicOption6963

Canada is SAFE 🏀

RealEstateWindsor

I went off a tangent my apologies lol it's just I'm seeing this all over my feeds and figured I'd chime in regardless being off topic. The bold face lies come from both parties, that's their job. I agree with your other views regarding SAFE, MORE, etc. It's all a circus/game that will eventually halt due to overwhelming demand. THC is proven to decrease opioid use and alcohol consumption in many people. It's definitely not a gateway drug. Alcohol is most definitely the gateway drug. Either way didn't want to get into politics or further this convo any longer. Enjoy your Sunday. 

skyplt29

Not sure how you got out of my narrative that I thought President Trump instructed anyone to murder anybody. Nope. WRT Minnesota, my view is in the rush to recruit more ICE agents they likely fast tracked appropriate screening and training. It is no secret about the various groups who are attracted to this position. Within hours of these killings Noem was mouthing off about protestors trying to "run down" ICE agents with their vehicle or coming at them "brandishing a gun". I did not mean for this to be a political discussion; rather, what I am pointing out is the bold face lies this administration is comfortable telling on most every front regardless of party affiliation. Democrat? I believe that party is equally to blame for the present mess. Joe Biden promised a one term presidency. Despite obvious failing health and cognitive issues he held on to power and consequently undermined due process (proper Democrat leadership convention) that would not have put Harris in the running. In the meantime we had the games being played by both Schumer (soon) and McConnell regarding S3, SAFE, MORE, and SAFER. Republicans just would not give them the votes. All I am seeing out of this administration for the last ten years when it comes to cannabis reform (both Republican and Democrat) are lies. S3 is about as straightforward as it gets...merely recognizing there are medical applications related to a naturally growing plant. Ask many Veterans (I am a Veteran) who have PTSD and for them, CBD and THC has proven to help. THC products are being used to help opioid addicts. Gateway drug? I hardly think so. I use CBD products not for PTSD but to aid with arthritis and sleep. I have for years. but I am not looking to go any deeper down a rabbit hole as a consequence. I am relieved I am not depending on Advil or Tylenol. Sorry for the politics, but as someone wrote earlier this week, weedstocks are unfortunately dependant upon politicians and administrators doing the right thing...and they are not even coming close. Remember the sniffer dogs and one congressman concerned about their future?

Bsj7ev52csj63

BIG MONEH firing pretty big bazookas.... Dey bet no move....I tink they want to peace out for long weekend....fuk about again on Tue, today tired. Can you belieb it...WE SAFE! No crash today!

SwordfishOk504

SAFE will never pass until the Democrats have like 60+ seats in the Senate, because the Republicans will never support it.

heliumbox

SAFE/Uplisting needed to happen 4+ years ago, politicians needed to actually want to solve the issue. It is inexcusable that such a straight forward and popular policy has been left to fester for a decade of "legal" sales. There is so much overhead, animosity, and panic to just get out with something in this sector... Without institutional investment, without forced buying for balancing... this sector is doomed to pump and dumps forever. Look at every single pump and dump of the last 5 years, every single one has failed to break the high of the previous. If that trend continues... this next pump will be lucky to break 7$ on MSOS, $10 if things get absolutely wild again... that is beyond pathetic to wait around for and as always: only benefits short term traders.

theloma

Isn’t this only applying to Chinese banks and not SAFE? My understanding is the Chinese banks are relatively small holders of USD bonds, all things considered

randomnameforme123

OH BOY MARKET VOLATILITY! I GUESS ITS TIME TO BUY SAFE HAVENS LIKE META- damn.

Murky_Panic_4686

AI isn't the savior it was made out to be. We're in the middle of deployment of Agentic AI and it's laughably bad at times. It made me realize my job is FUCKING SAFE for a long time.

REEMFMetalHead

I feel okay about IPW - I'm getting ready to make a shit load of money on it. But sheesh, never again. And I don't recommend any of you jump in on it either - it's just wildly out of control. NOT SAFE.

zombiesphere89

Well I would but it's their SAFE SPACE and no one is allowed in. Don't want to hurt their feelings. 

Benromaniac

Earliest date to redeem the notes looks strategic. If this were to be a repeat of Canada weed stocks 2017, being able to sell after Dec 17 just before holiday chatter peak hype SAFE uplist…? That’s just shy a year and 11mos away.

johns2289

SO YOU’RE TELLING ME THAT AFTER ALLLLL MY FUCKING META CALLS EXPIRED WORTHLESS, NOW IT IS THE SAFE HAVEN. GOT IT. im angry.

dh6636

Current common stock holder. Got in a long while back, I think around 2019/2020. Unfortunately, I’m underwater as I bought more as stock price went up. Biased, but I think the stock is beaten up. Fact of the matter is: all debt (including preferred) is 385mm. Just real estate assets alone are over 2bn. Equity to common holders based off that is 1.6-1.7 bn but stock is trading near 1.3bn… book value is even higher at 1.8-1.9bn. I think there is virtually no chance of default as well, IIPR can easily refinance debt with their current leverage profile. It’s all about future prospects, which tbh, have been frustrating to deal with as their tenant diversification has stagnated. Really have no idea why people always cite SAFE act as being bad for IIPR, if anything, it’ll be great as it’ll help their tenants be more bankable and have less headwinds. This is corroborated by IIPR Stock price action which goes up when progress is made here, if you actually watch. Again, biased, but I think common is better play than pref because divy is higher (and unless they cut by like 30%, will remain higher) and you also get to realize upside potential. Both sre good plays though imo

greenbelieve

Absolutely wild price action. EO for reform in the White House in December, (which seemed unimaginable even 1 year ago) and the market just does not care about this sector anymore. I’ve been doing this so long I remember when MSOS was 13 bucks before Mcconell nuked SAFE in the NDAA. Now we are grinding back to $4. Everything is so dramatic too. Speculation that Bondi is not gonna sign for ~reasons~. I’m tired boss.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Hey. Come on. But we ALSO store our rolls of nickels under our pro wrestling magazines to keep them SAFE (and effective). Give us some credit! 😂

Odd_Claim_1652

https://preview.redd.it/e524vqqe4ofg1.png?width=2678&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f8f0eee84b6d298313567a3653fb700a1ec0e74 Don't buy this stock. The Czech Republic has received only limited funding through SAFE. Additionally, it does not have particularly strong diplomatic or financial ties with the countries that have received the most funding.

Boheed

📍 MARKED SAFE FROM: market correction

Zimoula

Difference between Pelosi and people here: - professionals trade for her, you trade for yourself - they buy her long term SAFE calls already in the money, 1 year + vs you buy weekly calls

portfoliorating

# SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO MY WEIRD UNCLE's ADVICE TO BUY GOLD BARS FROM COSTCO AND KEEP THEM IN A SAFE 😡

Brokenandburnt

The EU has created the EDF/SAFE funds for Military RnD and procurement. The caveat to both funds is "Buy EU" nothing American.  The EU already produce their own tanks, IFVs APCs, SPGs, AWACS, SAM systems, Jets, satellites etc. To all who think 'Murica best tech, the EU has been research partners in most US projects. The EU versions of ground vehicles are more modern and efficient on the battlefield compared to it's US counterparts. Oh, and btw, Canada has also petition, and been allowed to, join those funds. Even more revenue and economy of scale lost from the US MIC.

Brokenandburnt

EU signed the Mercosur deal after 25 years of ~~negotiating~~ bickering, I don't feel like the timing was accidental. It creates a free trade zone with South America(ish) of 700M people. EU has created two EU only funds for military procurement/RnD. Canada has petitioned to join and been accepted. The only limitations on the EDF/SAFE funds is the caveat "Buy EU" no American weapons. I still eagerly await Trump's rage tweet reactions when he hears that Canada is also diversifying their defense away from US. I also wonder when US defense firms will start complaining about lost revenue. Anyway, the fund was loaded with €150B first round.

jjstock

"On the other hand operators will have access to better capital with SAFE on the horizon." This sounds bullish, not bearish, for IIPR. Leases don't expire for more than a decade.

AverageNo130

I'd like to see SAFE before I lose all my hair.

AverageNo130

Anything on SAFE banking? We've been waiting 12 yrs.

koopcl

This is it. The EU passed the ReArm 2030 plan because of Trump that envisions the majority of EU weapon systems being locally made and designed by the next 4 years. Rheinmetall is already out producing the entire US in ammunition. Non EU allies like Japan, Turkey, Canada and Australia are already part of (or requesting access to) the SAFE program to be able to ensure loans and weapon procurements through Europe instead of relying exclusively on the US which is no longer seen as a safe friend to have. For better or worse Trump fucked the MIC in the butt when it comes to weapons exports, so they'll be looking to secure a lot more funding internally (arming the US forces and, let's be honest here, ICE and other actors for domestic repression) or to start a new shooting war soon to keep the money flowing.

rockum

Imagine training an LLM on 5 years of Weedstock Daily Discussion comments and having it add a new comment every 20 - 30 minutes. LFG! Dusting off my moon boots. Dog shit sector. C'mon Anne! S3! Florida! GTBIF is cheap! SAFE! Gonna 4x!

ck_zaza

sold my SLV calls, im done for the week. see you tards monday. STAY SAFE OUT THERE

Ok-Understanding4803

I owned it for years. On one hand 280e removal will resolve their tenant issues. On the other hand operators will have access to better capital with SAFE on the horizon. I've been out about a year, would not get back in at this point. Theres more value in the strong operators i.e. Green Thumb and Trulieve.

barsonica

For SAFE and SECURE ~galactic~ empire

kgal1298

Not one? Trump litterally said it in his post: [https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115855701696773990](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115855701696773990) "I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!"

jnas_19

After long and difficult negotiations with Senators, Congressmen, Secretaries, and other Political Representatives, I have determined that, for the Good of our Country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our Military Budget for the year 2027 should not be $1 Trillion Dollars, but rather $1.5 Trillion Dollars. This will allow us to build the “Dream Military” that we have long been entitled to and, more importantly, that will keep us SAFE and SECURE, regardless of foe. If it weren’t for the tremendous numbers being produced by Tariffs from other Countries, many of which, in the past, have “ripped off” the United States at levels never seen before, I would stay at the $1 Trillion Dollar number but, because of Tariffs, and the tremendous Income that they bring, amounts being generated, that would have been unthinkable in the past (especially just one year ago during the Sleepy Joe Biden Administration, the Worst President in the History of our Country!), we are able to easily hit the $1.5 Trillion Dollar number while, at the same time, producing an unparalleled Military Force, and having the ability to, at the same time, pay down Debt, and likewise, pay a substantial Dividend to moderate income Patriots within our Country! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

King_Chron

This sector is thin, OTC-heavy, and still trades almost entirely on **policy headlines**, not fundamentals. On low-volume days especially, ***timing and framing*** **matter** way more than people want to admit. What’s hard to ignore is how often delay-focused policy coverage (SAFE stalls, rescheduling “sources say,” recycled GOP opposition) becomes the **dominant narrative for the day**, while positive developments tend to get muted or caveated. What’s interesting is how often the **same policy outlet** leads those downside narratives and then gets echoed everywhere else. Not a conspiracy. Just an **asymmetric impact** problem that retail should start documenting instead of ignoring. Could be coincidence. Either way, retail would probably benefit from **tracking headline timing vs price action**

King_Chron

This sector is thin, OTC-heavy, and still trades almost entirely on **policy headlines**, not fundamentals. On low-volume days especially, ***timing and framing*** **matter** way more than people want to admit. What’s hard to ignore is how often delay-focused policy coverage (SAFE stalls, rescheduling “sources say,” recycled GOP opposition) becomes the **dominant narrative for the day**, while positive developments tend to get muted or caveated. What’s interesting is how often the **same policy outlet** leads those downside narratives and then gets echoed everywhere else. Not a conspiracy. Just an **asymmetric impact** problem that retail should start documenting instead of ignoring. Could be coincidence. Either way, retail would probably benefit from **tracking headline timing vs price action**

GeoLogic23

A % gain is a % gain, no matter how much you have. Traders would love to be able to get 15% every year. If you got 100% return in half a year, and your **expectations** are to get 80-100% more on weedstocks, you are in for a very bad time in the market. One of the worst things for a new trader to do is "win" on their first trade. Now you think you know more than you do, and are going to take unnecessary risks with your money. You may not think looking at financials matter, but half these companies are up against a debt/tax wall that could destroy them. Not to mention this: >With a Democratic government, full legalization could happen in just a few years. Democrats had control not that long ago. They can't overcome the filibuster in the Senate to even get SAFE Banking passed. I sincerely hope you aren't putting too much of your money into such a risky sector expecting 100% gains.

Visual-Try-8081

I did. I’m new to investing. I started in April 2024, around Liberation Day, with $10k to play with and see how I’d do. I bought AMD at 90 and sold at 105, thinking it was going to drop again after a Trump tweet. I bought UUUU at 5 and sold at 7, expecting something similar (it’s now at 18). In July, I decided to go all-in on cannabis. Based on my previous experiences with AMD and UUUU, when it started to run, I expected it to keep running, but I couldn’t have been more wrong. This sector is a beast on its own and can’t be compared to others. That’s something I’ve learned over the past few months. Nevertheless, as I said before, I’m expecting a good year ahead of us. That’s why I’m still invested and decided to double my position this month. I don't see how is that emotional. I just believe in what I am investing and that's all. I don’t even need another miracle run-up. A 80-100% move with S3 final order and SAFE would be perfectly fine for my expectations. Totally achievable based on recent price action around news, rumors, MM and so on.

Visual-Try-8081

IMO, is much easier to pass SAFE after S3. If they have half a brain, is the perfect follow up. Some hinted a lot more was coming for this sector in the first semester of 2026. As almost everything in the stock market, we are betting on the future. I am comfortable with today prices, and the risk-reward seems perfectly fine.

four_twenty_4_20

>\- Safe + uplisting (for me this is a sure thing) Very dangerous assumption. Some version of SAFE has been imminent for many years now. I don't believe it to be a priority for the GOP given the very vocal dissent against S3 coming from many GOP politicians. There's ALWAYS something more important than weed for thr senate to deal with. Would be incredibly happy to be wrong here. Uplisting might be possible based on S3 alone but I think SAFER would likely be required first. I think its more likely Trump calls up the exchanges and tells them to uplist after S3 as another favor to Trump insiders like Kim Rivers, than for the senate to finally deliver SAFE banking.

tanhan27

Canada has recently become the first non European nation to join EU's Security Action for Europe (SAFE) defense initiative. The USA is not a part of that one....

GeoLogic23

Panama might interest you. Trump was very close with the Steinbrenner family (Yankees owner), having once described George Steinbrenner III as his best friend. George Steinbrenner IV has connections to the cannabis industry, having partnered with the SOL Global guys in multiple ways (Wesana Health, Fyllo, Auto racing). The SOL guys were the Aphria insiders from the short report (Serruya, DeFrancesco, etc.), which we should remember was **focused on South America**. The SOL guys most recent company is TYSON 2.0, which was partnered with Wesana Health, and has connections to [Elon Musk (Alex Spiro) and Donald Trump (Mike Tyson)](https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/comments/1i8qipk/comment/m8wps68/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Yankees legend Mariano Rivera was given a medal by Trump, and was chosen by Trump to lead one of his Presidential councils. Mariano Rivera's current project is building out a [hemp biofuel project in Panama](https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/comments/1o6bfgl/comment/njgx7ai/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). They are even partnered with giant company Honeywell for expanding their tech. Trulieve has a long-standing partnership with an organization called Minorities for Medical Marijuana. They were lobbying federally in 2023-2024 for many policies that promoted [hemp banking and hemp as biofuel](https://lda.senate.gov/filings/public/filing/752540db-b40b-4803-8690-96c6660b32e9/print/). This included SAFE Banking. American Petroleum Institute also randomly lobbied for SAFE Banking for one quarter near the end of 2022. [They lobbied for the specific section (Section 10)](https://lda.senate.gov/filings/public/filing/00d8c66d-01db-4647-8fe6-b70db7041a64/print/) that soon after came up as a key issue in SAFE discussions. American Petroleum Institute has been led for years by Mike Sommers as their President and CEO. Mike Sommers is the former chief of staff to John Boehner, the former GOP Speaker of the House who is also heavily involved in the cannabis industry (Acreage Holdings / National Cannabis Roundtable). Mike Sommers was one of the few people working with John Boehner in 2018 on a legalization strategy for cannabis. If you read the [lawsuit filed by the 10 Campaign](https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/comments/1iiaxrs/comment/mb4054v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), you can see that John Boehner and Mike Sommers were working with Privateer Holdings, back when Privateer was an investment by Peter Thiel.

pm_me_yo_creditscore

A HUGE DAY FOR DEMOCRACY! I am pleased to announce that Fernando Mendoza will be the new, STRONG Leader of Venezuela! 🇻🇪 The era of SOCIALISM and WEAKNESS is OVER. Fernando is a WINNER, a real fighter, who will protect his people and work with ME to make the Western Hemisphere SAFE and GREAT again. Nicolas Maduro is a TOTAL LOSER—SAD! I’ve been watching Fernando closely. He has the same spirit we see in the Heartland, like the incredible people of INDIANA! I LOVE Indiana—the Hoosiers are winners! But let’s be honest, the Indiana State Senate is a COMPLETE DISASTER. Rodric Bray and his group of weak, "Midwest Nice" RINO Republicans are a total EMBARRASSMENT to our Country. They blocked my redistricting plan because they’re AFRAID of winning. They’d rather lose than be STRONG! Fernando Mendoza is the OPPOSITE of those weak Indiana politicians. He knows how to lead, he knows how to WIN, and he’s going to bring Venezuela back from the brink. We are going to have a very SPECIAL relationship. Maybe the Indiana Senate can learn something from him! America stands with the people of Venezuela. BIG THINGS COMING! 🇺🇸

PlumDumbCumGetchySum

With the price of Cocaine set to soar, surely Cannabis can carve out some of the demand. Trump is bound to mention the word SAFE @ Maralago around 11:15!

GalaxyDefender1x

It is Gambling. But at this point, SAVING DOLLARS has been a losing bet for decades. The stock market is also Gambling. TODAY THERE ARE NO SAFE WAYS TO SAVE. If you know of one, please point it out for me.

Many_Easy

I believe he’ll push it through - just a guess. However, I do worry that his health and possible malaise taking a turn for the worse before finalizing could mean that his successor or temp replacement will not finalize. I really don’t believe that he has much GOP support for rescheduling. I also believe as I’ve stated previously numerous times that S3 and medical is only as far as Trump will go with reforms. I don’t believe he wants SAFE(R}.

Many_Easy

There have been numerous opportunities to take some profits starting with January/February 2021 and SAFE debate in December 2022 for starters. Most cannabis charts are poor when looking at last 5 years. My investment approach is based on looking forwards, not backwards.

skyplt29

Someone posted a link to Chartman Dan's latest podcast on cannabis stocks (although it appears to have been since taken down from Reddit). I watched all 50 some odd minutes of the YouTube video...it was really well done. What was most sobering is all the "rookie mistakes" he speaks to. These  may as well have been my playbook. I do respect he suggests he was making them as well until he finally decided to start getting really serious about technical analysis. CMD also indicated that although he is in a financial position to retire, he loves the game too much. I know about the "sell the news" approach by the professionals. CMD suggests it is not manipulation (an overused term in his view) but merely the cold hearted professionals taking advantage of typical retail (emotional) investors. I do believe there is certainly a STN aspect to what happened on the 18th Dec; although it seems a little suspicious the selloff occurred precisely 40 mins prior to the EO signing and was straight down. Perhaps it was stop loss triggers, I certainly had some stop loss sells happen (which thankfully preserved some gains. So what to do in the New Year?  I do believe there will be a series of catalysts. Bondi has her marching orders. I think S3 will be sooner than later (but the "soon" schtick during the Biden administration kept me on the hook longer than I should have...missed opportunities galore in other sectors). Medicare, Veterans, and Seniors programs seems likely by April.  280E and SAFE? Uncertain of timing. Going into 2026 I will try to be a little less emotional about how I invest in this sector and certainly remain more balanced. BTW, there were five dispensaries in the town of about 25,000 where I live. Two of them recently closed their doors.  In other sectors I am invested in, I note oil prices are going down due to the possibility of peace in Ukraine. Of course, Putin hammers Kiev.  Trying to make sense of insanity has been my Achilles Heel. But I do think 2026 could be the year for weedstocks...but then, I thought that in 2018 and again in 2021. I would be most interested to hear some of the stalwarts of this subreddit site weigh in. I have even unblocked Foodcooker as in truth, had I paid more attention to his and Swordfish's posts I would have had a better balanced 2025 in terms of pros and cons. All the best in the New Year. I sincerely hope it is our year. 

Many_Easy

I don’t believe you’re “unhinged.” Just misinformed. 280e is a major reason as well - maybe not as much as SAFE. Banks like operating cash flow and 280e taxes eat into that.

Many_Easy

Hopefully, we get another opportunity to have Florida recreational on the ballot and SAFE(R) again in Congress. Both were heavily opposed by current party in control. Had either been approved, industry would have been much further ahead than where we are now. Personally, I believe one of them would be the tipping point we need.

AverageNo130

omg, 12 years of no SAFE, hard to believe.

EntropyAccount

My entry into the sector was before MSOS was created. I hold 1/2 the shares I bought in GTI from like 6 yrs ago. Ive tried to invest more when things were getting talked about SAFE, StATES, BIDENs EO to review S3… but everytime MSOS goes lower and I sell before I loose too much. I absolutely suck at trading. The money I lost in MSOS over the years trying to catch “the” catalyst is substantial, and I’m talking like 10-15% losses each time for years adds up. I’m here cuz 1- I’ve always been here, and 2-I’m in that spot where I’m coming close to going into the red on MSOS around 3$. I’m just warning people it’s the fucking same thing over and over … until it aint

DowntownWpg

Rescheduling need to be initiated by Bondi by the end of February. This allows a final ruling and 30 day shortened comment period. Trump buddy Kessler's CBD pilot program for seniors is scheduled to begin April 1. He won't let his golf buddy down. It included THC containing medicine, so rescheduling obviously needed. I expect a Bondi Memo to be released at around the same time, to allow cover / encourage of SAFE banking legislation.

heliumbox

Does anyone know/have link to the harbinger of SAFE rumors this round? I'd bet my bags SAFE was never discussed as any serious addition to the EO and yet the rumor mill started up as soon as the PUMP started. Who ever started the rumor or reported on it from "their sources" should lose all credibility as a source IMO. Soon as SAFE was mention it sealed the deal for a sell off like every other failed attempt.

americanu_ill-archi

\[Like an idiot\] I held through the Feb 2021 high and crash, 4 more years of bleeding, and now this. Anyone who is surprised at this price action is either a moron or has never looked at the charts. Nothing will change until SAFE and uplisting to real exchanges. That might actually be on the horizon, but it's also "been on the horizon" for a *long* time... Welcome new bagholders!

Hogfisher

The cannabis sector has been heavily shorted in general. Additionally, overall volumes are very low and the underlying stocks in MSOS are traded on the OTC. This makes it possible for weird and unpredictable moves with less efficiency that you would see in a higher volume stock that trades on the NYSE or other major exchange. My opinion: the executive order to enact the previously recommended schedule 3 change is monumental medically and also for tax purposes. It will also make free cash flow and profits per share the reality for many US multi-state operators. There was no reason for a sell off from a fundamentals side. I’m not sure if it was manipulated, but the downward move does not make sense with regard to future profits. On the other hand, some could say that the executive order was more limited in scope than expected. He spoke more about CBD and research than creating a federal or state-based medical market. If the markets are responding to that “disappointment,” then that could explain that downward trend after the EO was signed. It certainly was a sell the news event, but anecdotes are not an explanation. The biggest thing that retail or individual cannabis sector investors are waiting for is the flood of institutional investments that will drastically increase volumes in MSO market caps. However, it is not clear if this will be allowed with the schedule three change. Signing the executive order and enactment of the schedule three change hopefully will allow in institution investments and possible acquisition of the MSOs. There is a possibility that the big catalyst will actually be the SAFE Banking Act. Schedule 3 or SAFE will likely be the catalyst for much of the growth over the next 3 to 5 years and will hopefully help with uplisting to a high-volume exchange. That will also help decrease the likelihood of strange, large swings in price that are hard to explain.

UsedState7381

Some sources are saying it's possible just on updated FINCEL guidance after final rule is enacted, but I remain skeptical that there will be an updated guidance at all. Plus, SAFE Banking is still a good assurance to have, as dictated by law, in case a crazy GOP prohibitionist tries to take cannabis back to S1 in the future. The current state of present-day GOP is so reactionary and moronic, that I do not doubt to see something like this in the future. Can never get too comfortable with these chucklefucks. Side note: I'm definitely not putting Trump into this affirmation, in regards to cannabis I can safely say now that he's different from the GOP.

Ok-Replacement9595

That is a good question. I don't think so. I think SAFE sought to address workers ability to bank, get mortgages, and cash checks, etc. But Republicans blocked that.

UsedState7381

>What are your plans for this sector moving forward? Buy and hold MSOS until S3 final rule is posted, see if SAFE Banking is actually going forwards or not(momentum is here but it won't last long), if yes then I'll wait for it. Either way, I'm revaluating my price target for MSOS, it seems that $25 is just way too optimistic with these OTC shenanigans stupidity still happening *even after we have S3 essentially done*, over $10 and I'll consider a exit strategy. Uplisting will fix this, but I won't wait around for it anymore.

GeoLogic23

It's always people from Ohio pushing cannabis legislation. We had Dave Joyce and Steve Stivers of Ohio specifically pushing for SAFE to benefit Miracle Gro (Ohio-based). Joyce subsequently picking up the STATES Act. Then we had Sherrod Brown of Ohio passing SAFE through committee last term. Now we have Moreno of Ohio being the lead on SAFE this term? One of the most recognizable GOP political names that has been in the cannabis space for years is John Boehner, the former Speaker of the House, who is also from Ohio.

skyplt29

Good write up. The disconnect between yesterday's S3 progress and the market reaction (30 mins prior to the EO being signed) was likely related to your comments above. It is amazing to think some of these stocks are trading less than they were when Trump 'hinted' S3 may happen last August. I don't expect (but really have no idea, nor does anyone else on here) there will be a straight line up recovery today...but many of these companies were just thrown a lifeline, especially when 280E is lifted. I agree with Many\_Easy it is unlikely there will be forgiveness of 280E back taxes owing. But who really knows. I have my sell orders set, and they start about twice yesterday's closing prices...so I don't expect them to fill today. Despite yesterday's rug pull I will have a good Christmas knowing 2026 will be a year of significant progress for this sector thanks to S3. Bondi will sign...just not sure when. Politically, I am not sure what to make of this Republican led effort to S3. This is not what I expected in Nov 2024. Although some like to hammer Schumer and Booker (guilty as charged) the truth is it was the Republicans who were blocking any movement on SAFE and MORE during the last two years of the Biden presidency. That being said, the Biden administration had the opportunity in their first two years when they controlled both the House and the Senate. The key difference is the Biden bunch took a more 'play by the rules' approach where Trump is taking a 'damn the torpedoes' get it done philosophy. It will be interesting next year when the Democrats likely take back the House and the Senate. Will cannabis reform become a bipartisan effort? It seems both parties are more interested in blocking each other rather than do what is right by its electorate. Regardless of Republican or Democrat, for me, the big win yesterday was Dr. Oz (and other experts) speaking to the benefits of medical cannabis and how it would be covered under Medicare. Who would have thought such logic would come from around Trump's desk? Despite the market reaction, this was a huge win for this industry. I am comfortable with the shares I own knowing they are now in companies in a sector that just became more stable.

UsedState7381

Doesn't have to wonder much, a lot of people who bought above $5 got smoked yesterday on the rugpull, it's entirely understandable that they would be quiet today. The slow bleed from $5,80 all the way to $4,89 was likely those people selling off. Way too many new people here too along with too much euphoria and hopium about SAFE Banking too, more of that on Twitter though.

UsedState7381

SAFE Banking has cleared the House 7 times in the past already. Senate is the problem, and McConnell, Schumer and Booker were the main responsible for it not being brought to a vote. Now that rescheduling is the talk of the streets, it would be a great timing to get to the floor, even if all of the GOP senators who signed that letter opposing S3 decides to vote against it, they still aren't the majority. The momentum is here but it won't last though.

Turgius_Lupus

Biden barely did nearly anything and his commuting of sentences barely affected anything. Heck for the first year Palaski was reiterating that he did not, s d never supported rescheduling or legalisation. Not even medical, and he did nothing to move legislation along. In fact the Dems took out the parts preventing payment processors from discriminating against purchases. So as to protect gun rights from the legislation senate, that was used to get Republican support for SAFE in the House.

rsilv18

Didn’t scroll far enough not used to all these comments in here but you’re right it was said. Onward and hopefully upward Looking forward to seeing if he commits to the second half of his campaign post about pursuing SAFE + STATES act and also looking forward to seeing how MSOs react to the news. I think these next 6 months are going to get interesting

figuring_ItOut12

Other folks in this sub have very competently and thoroughly pointed out the deficiencies of SAFE and as to how it will not be the panacea value investors need. I defer to them. This is not a source sub for value investors, and honestly that’s fair to the spirit here.

Fergizzo

Isn't this what we need SAFE for? Full legalization is like 20 years away if at all lol

AmDazed

I appreciate the skepticism, but 'waiting a year' is standard for a major industry rollout, and a reversal is statistically a long shot in this Congress. 1. **The 60-Vote Wall:** This wasn't a standalone bill that's easy to chip away at. It passed with exactly 60 votes in the Senate as part of the massive 'Continuing Appropriations Act' (H.R. 5371) to reopen the government. To reverse it, you'd need another 60-vote 'must-pass' vehicle. History shows that once these provisions are baked into a funding deal, they are almost never re-addressed. 2. **Legislative Track Record:** Look at how long it took to pass *any* cannabis reform. Bipartisan SAFE Banking has failed for years. The Farm Bill is already years behind schedule. If Congress couldn't find 60 votes to *pass* banking, they aren't going to find 60 votes to *save* gas-station Delta-8. 3. **The 'Monopoly' Lobby:** For the first time, the state-licensed MSOs and the anti-cannabis groups are on the same side. The legal industry wants that $28 billion market back, and they have the lobbyists to make sure this ban stays exactly where it is. The one-year window isn't for 'rethinking' the law; it's a 'liquidation period' for current inventory before federal enforcement hits on Nov 12, 2026. This 'best news to date' just created a massive protected market for the companies that already have the licenses.

Consistent_Panda5891

It is just a good short entry (well was before the drop) sadly. If you watch how GoP miserable did nothing with THE BILL when dems passed house, or specially worse back in February when there was a common sense bill which would not legalize it but yes allow states get more taxes with SAFE banking act and yet they opposed... I do not see any good CEO who thinks this will push industry higher, all limitations by FDA are still in. Trump is another pro-weed president as was Biden, but is tied by that senate members who disagree. But a step is a step, maybe the next admin will so something after dems are back

UsedState7381

Completely beats me, but dumping right now just because we didn't get anything about SAFE Banking and Uplisting is just ridiculous.

Ok-Following-4531

Still ambiguity about SAFE banking.

BurbsConsole93

This is on you OP. Not ADHD. I have three times diagnosed ADHD and Generalized anxiety. I have Money in Robinhood, Stash, Acorns and Chase investments..All up and in high dividend SAFE investments. What you did was gambling. Take accountability that you got greedy and have a gambling issue; don’t blame ADHD because my investments are well and up and I have 0 debt.

darkcoldsea

Don't lose hope, sell the news is normal. We will get rescheduling soon, just like all those past promises from Chuck Schumer where he was going to pass the SAFE Banking act sooner.

GeoLogic23

What happened today is because of the Democrats lol Notice how Trump is just directing them to finalize rescheduling? There would be anything to finalize if Biden didn't already have his HHS do all the actual work. Good job for Trump for telling them to move on it after he also sat on it for a year, but let's not forget the only reason this is happening is because of Biden. Schumer has nothing to do with this. Rescheduling never had even the slightest chance to go through Congress. They won't even pass SAFE.

GeoLogic23

What are you talking about? The Booker stuff was about SAFE Banking. They're hasn't even been a sniff of Republican support for rescheduling, which is why Biden had to start the process through the Executive Branch. Booker and Schumer did put out a legislation bill. It was DOA because of the GOP though. Booker is one single Senator lol why do you give him such power? The GOP could have taken up a clean SAFE at any point in the last year.

vand3lay1ndustries

Buy the rumor, sell the news.  But what those people don’t understand in this sector, is that doesn’t apply. If you’re in this long-term, and believe in the plant, then you know that nothing short of SAFE banking or the complete end of prohibition is going to significantly move the needle. 

--OZNOG--

Didnt honestly think there would be another good dip after rescheduling...Cant be happier to have rescheduling, a dip, and everything to come. SAFE, Uplisting, Instituional Investors, Contracts on MSO's, oh my.

dave-alexander

As disappointing as the initial price reaction is, good things are yet to come! A lot of people are confused by today’s price action, so here’s a level-headed take. Yes the Executive Order was signed. Yes Schedule III is effectively locked in via federal directive. And yes CBD was explicitly addressed with CMS/FDA involvement (including Medicare pilot authority). So why the sell-off? This is classic “anticipation → confirmation → digestion.” Markets ran hard into the event, and short-term traders sold into the headline. Leveraged products (MSOX especially) exaggerate this move. That doesn’t mean the news failed — it means the market is repricing what actually changed. What actually changed (and matters long-term): • 280E is effectively dead → immediate EBITDA & cash flow improvement • Federal cannabis risk profile dropped permanently (Schedule I → III path) • CBD now has explicit federal legitimacy (FDA + CMS direction) • Institutional modeling must be redone (this doesn’t happen in one session) • SAFE Banking becomes politically easier, not harder Today wasn’t “the end event.” It was confirmation of a regulatory regime shift — and those never move in straight lines. If this were truly bearish, MSOS wouldn’t still be massively up from last week, and analysts wouldn’t be scrambling to update assumptions. This is digestion, not rejection. Big changes get priced over weeks and months, not one trading day. Stay grounded. This setup is structurally better than it was 48 hours ago — even if the tape doesn’t look pretty yet.

ComprehensiveKiwi489

Sadly, I think I know why the Canadians are up, while the Americans are down (despite the former hardly receiving any benefit from S3). Without SAFE (which would help MSO's uplist onto major exchanges), they kinda continue to maintain their exclusivity to the vast majority of traders who can't buy OTC stocks, and maintain it for a little while longer.

Gambelero

Also, there’s a lot of ignorance relative to how the U.S. government works. A lot of people thought the signing of the EO would put S3 into immediate effect. There’s a thread about 2025 income taxes being adjusted today, for example. Others thought this EO signing would allow interstate commerce. Some even argued it would open new markets for Canadian produced products. Others argued that it would allow uplisting of American MSOs. We got exactly what we needed, and honestly the best Trump could possibly do. He can’t get SAFE through. We know the speaker argued against the S3 EO. Opening up high quality CBD while eliminating the loophole for low grade intoxicants is very positive for a lot of our companies. And Trump’s executive branch minions will not dissemble, delay or downright disobey him the the way Milgram’s team deflected Biden’s instructions.

ComprehensiveKiwi489

So basically, the drop was just because of no SAFE banking? Presser not over, by the way.

--OZNOG--

Yup....This is the best news this industry has literally had in years. at least a decade. been here since 2016. Could not be happier after years of bullshit, this is the most promising cannabis talk from a president ever. Ill take it. Not sure why people think SAFE banking not being a part of it either is a huge deal, who actually though he would reschedule and ram SAFE banking through too??

Tiaan

It's because there was this dumb narrative of "SAFE banking in the rescheduling EO!!" that came out of nowhere and people suddenly became "bearish" when it wasn't included in the leak

CardiologistFew4264

They read it out at the WH. Seems like really good news but they didn’t detail an order on SAFE, which I don’t see why is needed.