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Possible 5x today

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+TLT -selling near term OTM covered calls for steady income - good strategy?

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On what timeframe does the bond market price interest rate changes in?

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Is TLT20+ etf a good investment?

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Long TLT Leap Calls with PMCC (recovery trade attempt)

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1M yields glitched up 20% to 6.1%

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Options with bonds

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The Case for Small caps

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$TLT options

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What do you guys think? SQQQ and TLT?

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2023 Year in Review

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2023 Year Review

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Inherited a bit of money, any good advice?

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Thoughts on buying TLT now that JPow said rate cuts are on the table?

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Is it time to buy Treasury Long Term ETF???

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Risk free and guaranteed high return investment?

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Stoc(n)ks would moon in 2024

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TLT Options Play / FED Cut Early Mid 24? / Vix Low

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Is it the right time to invest in long-term bonds?

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Is there a way to realize gains in one stock and move those realized gains into another stock without being taxed?

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Why are Oil and Treasuries Yields Correlated?

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I built a website to backtest investment portfolios

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TLT bears be like

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HYSA or Treasury Bond funds

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Treasury Questions (Basic) and investment advice

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Iron butterfly’s and market volatility

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Investing in a treasury bond ETF a good idea? Please advise and don't make me talk to boomers at r/bonds

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Why long-duration, low-coupon treasury bonds are about to return 25%

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Why would a long term investor buy stocks rather than long term bonds, currently?

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Potential 6 Month Trade on TLT Targeting >14% Annualized Return

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WEEKLY PLAYBOOK 11/10/24

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what's the point of tlt if it's just as volatile as stocks

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TLT covered call(buy-write) will yield around 14%. Is this a good place to park money I won't need for 3 years?

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I made a free theta gang options group. Trying to build a community of non degenerates

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Just made a 10K loan to gamble in bonds

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Oil Tanker Stock Investors vs TLT Bag Holders

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TLT Leaps

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Trading the GDP print (/ZB and $TLT)

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Risky Risk Rates

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Investing for retired parent

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Powell will Powell the Economy + Bond ETFs for 🏳️‍🌈 🐻

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Powell will Powell the Economy + Why I'm buying TLT as a 🏳️‍🌈 🐻

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how to maximize Exposure to interest rate movements with bonds ?

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Rates are not high and the market is not crashing especially when Apple is still near ATH and not $120.

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TLT Bros

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Why does the govz etf pays a dividend?

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Generational buying opportunity on TLT

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Is it stupid to put money in TLT?

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Great opportunity in longterm bonds? TLT

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How Do Bond ETFs Work, and What Happens to the Principal at Maturity

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Why is the yield and SEC 30 day yield of TLT so different? Which one tells you the annualized rate of the next dividend?

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Find most correlated stock to TLT (treasury bond)

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Should I sell TLT?

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10Y Bonds at 4.8% Are Attractive,Especially Now

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What if WSB could ignite the spark that sends $TLT parabolic?

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Expected moves this week: SPY, QQQ, TLT, USO and earnings from Citi, JP Morgan, Wells and more.

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With the sky high Bond Yields would it be a good idea to buy US Treasury Bond ETFs right now?

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Is it finally, finally, finally time for TLT / long dated treasuries?

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Are TLT Leaps so cheap they are worth it?

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30 year US treasury yield is much better than TLT which has avg maturity of 25 years

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Considering Long Duration Bonds as an Opportunity

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Irrefutable signal to go all in TLT

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Putted 20k in bonds and down -20%

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Why is TLT still falling despite disinflation, looming recession fears and China deflation (exporting it to RoW).

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Just sold all my VOO and QQQ to put 90% in TLT and 10% in Bitcoin. Am I dumb?

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ok, mr (self called) smartest-man-in-the-room-at-all-times... did you hold any $TLT calls in december before the fed rate meeting?? do you have any plays for the upcoming March and/or June fed rate meetings??

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checks SPY 1 year up 27% checks TLT 1 year down 7% checks spy 5 year up 81% checks TLT 5 year down 20%

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Are you still holding TLT?

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When the Fed lowers rates and Treasury yields go down your TLT will go up, I don't know if it will reach a profit for you but that will be the highest high for a few decades b/c the long bond yield after that will continuously go up for decades making TLT go down or the Fed will interfere and monetize debt which will keep yields low but the currency will get fucked - also make ppl sell TLT, as it is a box of Long dated Treasuries.

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TLT tracks the 10, 20, and 30 year yield. It’s an income generator now then when the fed starts lowering it will become a capital gains creator.

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🤦still long TLT?

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Does not compute. How will this affect my TLT leaps?

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Currently CVS and TLT. And OXY if you could consider that defensive

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Just a heads up that myself and all the other big money have been moving our semi/tech positions over to long duration bonds and TLT.

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TLT rippin'!

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Couldn't choose between SQQQ 0dte calls near the money and PLTR 0dte puts. I said okay let's be safe, let's go with TLT puts for next week because it'll most likely dump alongside the market. Down 25% I hate this fucking game

with treasury yields in an uptrend since mid December , i think TMV is the way you play that.TLT should revert to 82 ( historical norm) and TMF has just done a 1 for10 reverse split and is already down 15 points TMV at low 35 area is a good buy

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Come on TLT just dump already

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EDV works as an alternative to TMF. You want to target your overall duration exposure to interest rate risk. Let's check. TMF is exactly 3x TLT as it has swaps on TLT's index. TLT's duration is 16.63. So my 60/40 recommendation is 120% TLT which is a 19.95 duration target. EDV is 24.7 years, and assuming over the long run duration = same return regardless if you construct it with zero-coupons (EDV) or treasuries that pay coupons (TLT), 19.95/24.7 = 80% of my TMF weight suggestion So 60/40 UPRO/TMF = 32% of EDV, or a weighting of 68% UPRO/32% EDV. Classic 55/45 right now would be 135% of TLT, or 22.45 duration, and 22.45/24.7 - 90% of EDV target, which is 40.5% Giving 55/45 using EDV should be 59.5% UPRO/40.5% EDV, or to make things simplier 60/40 UPRO/EDV. EDV has much better margining in a PM account (7% margin) and its not suffering from volatility decay. TMF has stupid margin requirements (90% margin.) Over the long one both backtest really closely: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&sl=5PyqBHENimHT1TqLHICQyc UPRO/TMF $10,000 $171,951 22.38% 29.12% 73.88% -64.15% -69.79% UPRO/EDV $10,000 $181,133 22.84% 26.85% 67.11% -49.22% -53.12% TMF does a bit better in the historical covid-style market crashes, thanks to the "rebalancing effect." It does a bit worse in draw-down/etc on the rising interest rate environment due to the same "rebalancing effect." Over the long run - your portfolio should produce the same value with the same duration matching. Any differences can and are exploited by market arbitraguers as there is a pure arbitrage trade in trading the bonds + coupons, and creating STRIPS from the bonds+coupons, as they come from the same treasury auctions. :) Both are fine choices and I'm a fan of both TMF and EDV. EDV might win out in a higher interest rate enviroment as there is a cost of carry for TMF's leverage currently thanks to the yield curve. However if its a normal yield curve enviroment - borrowing overnight rates to buy longer duration that regularly pays coupons might be a slight positive carry trade vs the zero coupon's decays, given bid/ask spreads in the STRIP market as only broker-dealers can STRIP coupons from treasuries to offer STRIPs.

Buy TLT. When it gets to breakeven for the year, buy TMF (unless theFed starts raising rates again of course).

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Even TLT going up with NVDA ER

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“We regret to inform you that you have been selected for TLT assignment” Damn, I thought I was getting another application rejection. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)

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# YOU KNOW THE MARKET IS FUCKED WHEN NVIDIA IS EVEN PUMPING TLT 🫵![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)

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I saw someone recommending TLT with yields this high. Can you explain the rationale behind that? If the yield goes even higher, that ETF will eat shit since it's inversely correlated, but then again, these high yields are risk-free money. I'd appreciate the help.

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TLT be dying. Equities going to join before long

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TLT is telling y'all that this is going to leg down. Sell your calls 📞

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Looks like my TLT puts are going to pay.

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I love seeing TLT bulls getting slaughtered. Mama yellen keep issuing that shitty debt bby 😘

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Good call. I’m all cash rn outside of some TLT poots.

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Buy and hold TLT until equities become attractive again. Thank me later

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https://www.tradingview.com/chart/K7EWqQn1/ This chart is a ratio of TLT (treasury bonds) vs USO (oil) The ratio is about to confirm a new trend of treasuries being weaker than oil. The market is saying inflation is coming back.

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You are two years behind. TLT doesn't foreshadow, it reflects. High interest rates, TLT goes down. When rates are going down, TLT will be going up.

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I bought TLT in October and sold at the end of December thanks to TA. If you plug TA signals into a neural network instead of reading it by eye, then you're a quant.

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TLT and oil have somewhat of an inverse relationship. Oil is the primary driver of commodity inflation long-term. It is back to almost $80. Treasury bonds don't like that.

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It looked worse in October '23 when it was in the 80s than it does now. On Dec 13 there was a big drawdown in yields 1 year and higher and this is bonds looking more realistic for the environment, especially the bigger up take on stocks since then. It can signal higher interest rates or just holding for longer, but you would need it to go much higher and un-invert before you start to start assuming you'll get inflation and higher growth expectation. My expectation was a cut in March by the Fed but, I too have changed and think a hold is much more likely now, and I'm bearish (not currently, earliest would be late March / April). I ultimately think the Fed will continue to hold until a credit event occurs and they will be forced to drop rates. But yes, I do expect TLT to drop down a little over. It's been in a sell off for nearly 2 weeks now. If that changes thats a much worse sign as that would likely signal something is wrong and the need for safety & liquidity is higher, given how inverted the curve already is and how low 20 and 30 years are now already. Again, more likely at the start of March and later if a recession will occur at the start of this year. \>A falling TLT can signal expectations of higher interest rates, which could increase borrowing costs for businesses and consumers. The negative effects of an increasing interest rate have already occurred. For the CRE and other loans which are nearing re-writing at the new higher interest rates, they need a lot lower rate than what we have now. More will likely suffer losses or even default, and that's part of the losses experienced by New York Community Bancorp recently.

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Watching all the banks start dropping like flies, other major countries going into recession, I’m sure this ends well 🥴🔥🔥🔥 TLT is the longest strategic play of my life so far…5 months later and I’m still waiting, eyeing the world with skepticism, collecting interest and building position like the slow painful clicks of a roller coaster slowly going up and up…any day it’ll peak and the ride will begin…or inflation reanimates and we all die.

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I agree with your expectations of what's to occur. Consider my word to therefore be a biased perspective. I personally use BIL as my liquid "cash". I wouldn't use it to buy things, but I am using that as my savings that in the event I lost my job, I can survive for at least a year on that cash. If the Fed starts to lower rates quite heavily I may reconsider this, I was considering moving to a 1-year US Treasury so that I could get a 5% rate locked in but given it's for liquidity, I am hesitant to move it for now. This is more risky so I'm not advising you to do the same (BIL or SGOV will do just fine) but I also have money in TLT and that I intend to sell when (if) rates on the long end drop, so I am essentially betting on a slowdown which is deflationary in nature similar to what occurred in 2008 and 2020, make gains off the lower rates in the long end, and then buying things that I will consider cheap at that point. I have put most my money in a brokerage account which differs from a bank in term of risk. While overall I don't think theres much need to worry, partially because I think overall banks usually get restructured or bailed out to some extend in this environment. I'm Australian so I'm not sure what products you have available and can say the same about the banks in your own country. The brokerage I have access to are American companies so I'm not sure if that's possible for you, but I believe that this is the safest option for me, even given what I've said about the banks. I was not aware of Floating Rate Notes, until your comment and I had to look them up. Given what I've said above and that I'm probably being more risky in terms of owning TLT than a product like TFLO because I expect rates to fall I think T-Bills are better just because in the short term you will get a slightly higher yield, and I'm less worried about rates rising (which TFLO would perform better from). Regardless either FRN or a T-Bill I would not expect much volatility in the price of the products, if you see BIL which has been out longer than SGOV you can see a much longer price chart to see how little volatility it has had. (past performance doesn't prove future performance). I'm not a professional, just a self learner, using a lot of YouTube, Google and Books. So take my advise with a grain of salt. Feel free to ask additional questions if I went off into the wrong tangent. I can't think of any really good recommendations of where to learn more about this stuff, I started with the most complicated and learnt from there to try and understand it all. The complicated was listening to Jeff Snider, with months of additional research. To understand Floating Rates Notes I just googled it and read off the first few sites to try and understand how they work; in this case I read off Treasury Direct, Investopedia and Wikipedia. Yahoo Finance and TradingView to see their charts.

Look at it this way. The price of absolutely everything is up substantially since 2019. Like even my auto insurance is up 65%. Groceries up? What 50%. Stocks are just barely above their 2021 high. In what world does it make sense that they should not also go up? Second, rate cuts are a fact. The US economy cannot operate with rates this high with debt to GDP where it is. Growth will fall apart. This is long-term thinking it doesn't mean the rates can't stay high for another 3 months, 6 months or even 12 months. That can happen but in the long run they are going lower. Growth will pick up, the Russell 2000 will catch back up to the s&p 500 equilibrium. Things trend higher over time. You also have the stimulus of the real estate sector heating back up as rates come back down. That's another catalyst. Is this the best time in the world to buy stocks? No but the last time we had a really good chance in 2022 most you guys were posting bear porn. You weren't getting greedy. Now the market is making new all-time highs which statistically puts the odds in your favor for continuation. It's not 100%, 2007 can happen, but statistically you're more likely to make money just holding stocks and also buying new all-time highs, they typically continue. One of my favorite trades now, if you have an account over 100k and can short options naked, short the TLT January 2026 $100 put. You only need the 30-year at roughly 4%. Maybe slightly above for that to expire worthless and it's just going to burn up on margin. Doesn't require any of your cash to put the trade on

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Selling baba 67$ puts and TLT 90$ puts

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Right now i hold TLT tressuries etf. The reason is that the intrest rate has not been over inflation for over 10 years, which means that it tightens. This means you get a safe 4,5-5.5 return, when markets have a great chance of going down. You want to be buying when its on sale, and sell when its on the expensive side.

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!banbet TLT 90 2w

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With a crystal ball you buy TLT right before they aggressively cut rates

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Fed promised 3 cuts in 2024 *if* inflation and employment warrant it. They had unemployment at 4.1% in end of 2024 forecast. If we get cuts with 3.7% unemployment and 3% real GDP, prepare for higher inflation expectations and $TLT to crater.

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Yeah, I'd say small caps have already been rallying in anticipation of this, in fact, I'd pull up a TLT and IWM comparison, it's the only pairing that's been working the way folks like to think about with the bond/stock correlation since the spring of last year, the large cap averages vs bonds pairing has not been. It's why I've said in the other forum that if you think treasury rates are going to push higher, for the time being at least, small caps are probably still a better short than large caps.

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Working under the assumption that rate cuts begin 3rd quarter, look at REITs like IIPR or REXR and TLT.

Right! I am definitely not sitting on the sidelines, all my retirement accounts boring VOO...no matter what is going on. In taxable I tinker with, so I'm positioned into TLT expecting that we hit terminal rates...Even though short term treasuries/cds/money markets are tempting at 5%...so far I underperformed a simple sp500 by 7% in 2023 and 6% in 2024 so far -\_- would have been better off with the mantra of just buy VOO until I have more money than I know what to do with!

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It doesn't always work, but a higher dollar can hurt stocks. 114ish in October 2022 lined up with the US bear market bottom. It's weird because you can say the same thing here that you can with treasuries. If you look at TLT vs the large cap averages, you can see that this relationship clearly veers away from working in the spring last year (it works almost perfectly still if you go TLT vs IWM though), and while it worked better when the US10Y raced to 5% last year, it's just not anywhere close to being in sync to what it was from Feb 2021-Feb 2023.

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Same only I use USFR same expense cost higher dividends and year to date plus 1% I do also own some TLT.

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I could see where you might anticipate TLT in the 80s cause back in 2006-2007 fed funds rate sat at 5.25% for a couple years and that’s where TLT sat around. But….then once the GFC happened it rocketed up to 120. I personally think it’s pricing in a 1% rate cut in the 90s level but I think it’ll move sideways until rates change. In the meantime I’m accumulating and reinvesting interest cause I believe it’ll pop like a cork when everything finally falls apart. Yield is currently around 4% and it pays monthly which is kind of nice. If I become unemployed I might need some cash flow to afford bills and food 🍱 so I’m positioned excessively defensively in anticipation of a market implosion. I could be very wrong. If rates go up cause inflation is picking up I’ll be very red for awhile

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Tallinna Linnatranspordi AS? TLT? Hehe

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Thought we’d be in the crapper this month and so far just hitting all time highs or near there…you should expect that at some point in time that the entire stock market will come down 50% to prepare yourself to hang on and not let go. No one knows when it will happen. I’ve read that once yield curve uninverts that typically that’s when shtf. Thought it would do this in March but spicy inflation data pushed dates back to may or June and maybe it’ll keep doing that maybe we need to bring rates higher yet we don’t know. My bet is I’m going to sit heavy in TLT until we crash and then like in 2008 it’ll skyrocket I’ll sett the top and buy the dip on the way down fully exiting my position if rates go to zero

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It's just one more piece of the puzzle. When you have high rates, highish inflation and job cuts. The likelihood of inflation falling followed by the rate cuts, followed by the corporate trough, followed by the re-acceleration is typically how it plays out. Trueflation is showing sub 2% inflation right now on the recent term. Remember in December when the government statistics were nice and dovish? Now everyone's worried again and it's pretty hawkish, you have TLT back to that $92 support? If this plays out like prior cycles and there's no reason that it shouldn't. There will be a shift to more dovish messaging over the next 90 days and the number of rate cuts that we thought we were going to get in January and the number of right cuts that we think we are going to get right now are almost certainly both wrong and we will find out in December of this year what the actual number is

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Shouldn't have bought TLT....

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TLT keeps falling IWM keeps rallying. Logical market gonna do logical things

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TLT is the play, my friends.

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I am predicting one more reverse split on TMF before everyone realizes that TLT historically trades at 81 pre 2008 financial crisis and only went higher after the 2008 financial meltdown as a result of fed qe remedial measures . Our banks are well capitalized now. no need for a major qe initiative and with inflation ticking back up, the feds will not be in a hurry to raise rates

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TLT puts printing

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probably nothing until I file my taxes...OR.....at the money CCs on TLT 0dte

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Bond cucks think 20 Treasury yield can't rise with stocks and higher for longer rates. Just watch TLT start to grow as these non 'Merica countries start to slip into a recession. We are the gold standard of where to put your money like those rip off Harry Potter trolls.

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I don't think it's priced into TLT yet, but maybe that's just me.

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I’m selling shares I was assigned yesterday with puts I sold on TLT. Will make me $170 ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883) Keeping the rest of my TLT.

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TLT basically already recovered

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Why is TLT lagging so much?

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# MY TLT POSITION IS HAVING HUGE HULK DICKS TONIGHT. UP $1700 OVERNIGHT. SHREK DONGS IN THE MORNING ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)

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It’s not a structured product. There aren’t structured products paying that high in interest. What it could be is he only deals with very high net worth clients and is a boutique firm. There’s plenty of fairly simply investing/ trading strategies to yield 2-3% monthly with risk fairly low. He could literally be selling 30 dte puts on TLT and with some margin and fine tuning the trade netting 2-3%. Or he could be playing wide iron condors or butterfly’s

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Would you put on a risk reversal on TLT and if so, for how long? I’m a bit long delta wise with ATM puts on /ZB but I am considering putting on some TLT 15 delta risk reversals as rates will not go up (from the FED at least) anymore. Another way would be to short some /ES deltas as my /ZB deltas are equal to about 5 SPX deltas. Just to neutralize the /ZB Then do the risk reversals on TLT as it is much more liquid than /ZB

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Only chads hold long duration bonds. TLT gang is small, but we are winning at life ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)

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People who invest on TLT are most likely unemployed![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)

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You all can make fun of my for my TLT position but last year I made $9000 on calls and puts. This year I’ve made $2000 so far. So… be salty all you want ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)

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u\\sonofalando working overtime behind wendys to invest 138,000 on TLT ![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)

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his income is now TLT divvies

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# Got assigned more TLT. To 1500 shares we go! TLT gang WYA? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)

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So remember the FOMC mainly controls the short end of the curve , yes the longer end can be somewhat controlled by buying or selling treasuries. However TLT holds long term bonds. The issue is over 20 years the market has probably priced in some average rate over that 20 year period Everyone assumes rates are going to change over the next 20 years over market cycles ; rates may rise and fall. Here is the issue, 20 year bonds are currently Yielding 4.5%; meaning the market has already priced in lower rates in the future So just because the FOMC lowers short term rates (and everyone expects they will) those are somewhat (and I hate to use this term ) "PRICED IN" So if inflation remains sticky and rates either 1. stay longer for higher 2. Do not go as low as the market expects TLT could drop because its already expecting some near term rate drops .

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A 15% gain on the underlying is necessary to break even on the Jan 2026 $100 calls. If you think that's a good deal, then you should buy. The only thing that is going to affect the price of TLT are the prices of the bonds it holds. The FED is not selling bonds and has no intention to do so. They are just not buying more to replace maturing bonds. They could, of course, change their minds and do the opposite. The Treasury selling more bonds would drive prices down and yields up all else being equal. The FED does not control the interest rates on 20-30 year bonds. These bonds will probably be affected by the FED easing or tightening, but there is no 1 to 1 relationship, and there could be circumstances where the long end goes in the opposite direction. The long end of the curve pricing is just a reflection of market participants' expectations of long-term credit risk of the issuer and long-term inflation expectations.

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Hello, Looking at TLT, at a basic level when interest rates get reduced the price of this should go up. What else affects TLT price though? Does unwinding the Fed balance sheet or the Treasury selling more bonds or a million other things I don't understand affect the price? Possibly more. Why wouldn't I get $100 TLT calls expiring Jan 2026?

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Everyone on the r/bonds thread yelled at me for saying TLT was tied to interest rates, so I don't know what to believe anymore.

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Forget TLT, TMF BABY!

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I see them as overall equally cheap, or at least not super expensive. I like to work with straddle prices directly, and SPY doesn't look like a great sell right now. There are much better opportunities, starting with IWM, ironically. I would favor your view though that, if really I had to pick one long vol, I would consider TLT.

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I forgot the cardinal rule of max pain when getting TLT puts. MMs only punish put holders 🤮

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TLT is lower than it was mid day yesterday wtf r u smoking

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BTC and TLT are calling the Fed's bluff on rate cuts

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Well TLT puts just wrecked all of my gains from yesterday, guh

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What's the best way to play TLT? Buying puts seems low return. Even if I'm 100% right these payouts are meh. Do you just have to margin up to the tits?

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TLT just tumble one more time plz![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)

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TLT doesn't move like SPY & QQQ

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Fffffffff my TLT sell order didn't go thru 🤮. We're for sure gonna pump bigly tmmr since MMs love to fuck me over.![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)

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Really contemplating on $92 TLT puts expiring for tmmr.![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787) Could be some fat gains if the dump continues.

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Gonna need to speed the movement of treasury rates up here to get that, which perhaps it's started today, who knows. It's been working a little better since August, but the reality is that the TLT/QQQ relationship is still broken.

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When rates fall TLT should go up right? However I heard something about the fed unwinding it's balance sheet simultaneously that might prevent that? Can anyone explain?

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Fuck i’m contemplating so hard about getting TLT leaps

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Definitely not going to look at my ira which consists entirely of TLT leaps for a while lol

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my TLT puts going to PRINT

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