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+TLT -selling near term OTM covered calls for steady income - good strategy?
On what timeframe does the bond market price interest rate changes in?
What do you guys think? SQQQ and TLT?
Inherited a bit of money, any good advice?
Thoughts on buying TLT now that JPow said rate cuts are on the table?
Risk free and guaranteed high return investment?
TLT Options Play / FED Cut Early Mid 24? / Vix Low
Is it the right time to invest in long-term bonds?
Is there a way to realize gains in one stock and move those realized gains into another stock without being taxed?
Investing in a treasury bond ETF a good idea? Please advise and don't make me talk to boomers at r/bonds
Why long-duration, low-coupon treasury bonds are about to return 25%
Why would a long term investor buy stocks rather than long term bonds, currently?
Potential 6 Month Trade on TLT Targeting >14% Annualized Return
what's the point of tlt if it's just as volatile as stocks
TLT covered call(buy-write) will yield around 14%. Is this a good place to park money I won't need for 3 years?
I made a free theta gang options group. Trying to build a community of non degenerates
Just made a 10K loan to gamble in bonds
Oil Tanker Stock Investors vs TLT Bag Holders
Powell will Powell the Economy + Bond ETFs for 🏳️🌈 🐻
Powell will Powell the Economy + Why I'm buying TLT as a 🏳️🌈 🐻
how to maximize Exposure to interest rate movements with bonds ?
Rates are not high and the market is not crashing especially when Apple is still near ATH and not $120.
Generational buying opportunity on TLT
How Do Bond ETFs Work, and What Happens to the Principal at Maturity
Why is the yield and SEC 30 day yield of TLT so different? Which one tells you the annualized rate of the next dividend?
Find most correlated stock to TLT (treasury bond)
10Y Bonds at 4.8% Are Attractive,Especially Now
What if WSB could ignite the spark that sends $TLT parabolic?
Expected moves this week: SPY, QQQ, TLT, USO and earnings from Citi, JP Morgan, Wells and more.
With the sky high Bond Yields would it be a good idea to buy US Treasury Bond ETFs right now?
$70k Puts QQQ: The World Will Burn Edition
Is it finally, finally, finally time for TLT / long dated treasuries?
Are TLT Leaps so cheap they are worth it?
30 year US treasury yield is much better than TLT which has avg maturity of 25 years
Considering Long Duration Bonds as an Opportunity
Is TLT Hitting its Bottom? My Play for the Upcoming Rebound.
Putted 20k in bonds and down -20%
Looking for a Simple Backtest Analysis to Do. Any Ideas?
Wall Street Newsletter S03E02: Four Research papers from Jackson Hole Symposium 2023.
How to get rid of my trading habit to invest properly! Fear of losing the money!!
Doesn’t need to make sense needs to make money
Boomers Getting Flushed With Their "Balanced" Portfolios
Why is TLT still falling despite disinflation, looming recession fears and China deflation (exporting it to RoW).
Wall Street Week Ahead for the trading week beginning August 14th, 2023
Increasing order of risk. IEI < HYG < JNK < TLT 😂
Just sold all my VOO and QQQ to put 90% in TLT and 10% in Bitcoin. Am I dumb?
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Man imagine losing money on TLT that would be so depressing.
Me thinking I would get rich off my TLT calls this morning only to find out that absolutely no one gets rich off bonds in any way shape or form. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
2020 was \*before\* the interest rate hikes. Bonds had already started to get squirrely. I do have 5% of port in TLT, and the bonds that are in Wellington which is 16% of port. Got rid of all other bonds and am using 2 carefully selected preferred stocks as bond proxies. 7-8% yields. Got em at discount to par, and they are in Roths. Ka-ching!
if last night was a nothing burger, then puts on TLT at open may be a good play
Every regard in here freaking out about their NVDA calls...the most important thing about tomorrow is whether bonds get bid or not. If $TLT crashes tomorrow that is a very bad sign.
24 hour trading on spy appears to have halted along with TLT after it rose and yields fell. Could be a massive move tomorrow.
Bad news, my NFLX 530 puts are prolly toast. Goodbye 10K. Good news is my XLE 95 calls will print. Hello 7K and 500!TLT shares are cherry on top. 🥸 [YAY-ish](https://imgur.com/a/qeDQQlN)
TLT and SPY 24 hour trading has been halted for the last hour and a half. TLT mooned with oil due to falling yields and spy fell $6 before halting. Could be a 5%+ move down tomorrow? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
Lmao TLT is gonna crash hard dummy
My TLT long 📈 but my AAPL, MSFT, and TSLA longs 📉![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
TLT had a volume of 50+ million at close today. Someone always knows something
TLT exploded just as oil did overnight ![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)
exxon, oxy, xle, and other oil is rallying. TLT is shooting through the roof. verified reports of isreal striking iran. market is tanking, my goodness
anyone watching bloomberg, if not i highly recommend it. There are unverified reports of explosions in Iran, TLT is going nuts
What the hell is going on after hours? I’ve never seen movement like this. Also why is TLT super up in after hours? Did a new war just start or what?
👋 grabbed $5k TLT 0DTEs just for fun
Will also add it doesn't work for everything. S&P500 is the real exception. QQQ has only outperformed if you bought high but held the downturn for years, bought low and held, constantly had more money to double down during downturns, and luckily rode a massive tech innovation wave. Most 3x funds get wiped the fuck out because they don't constantly go up the way the S&P500 has the last decade or so with pension funds and retirement accounts constantly pouring money into it. China bear? China bull? Any index bear? Most sector/industry 3x like SOXL? 3x bonds like the 20yr/TLT in TMF? Mostly down with a good number of them wiped the fuck out. Even some index 3X don't massively outperform like the 3x/2x Russell 2000 in TNA/UWM which has had periods of outperformance but you can't really hold like you do SSO.
Once yields hit around 4.8-4.9% I’m going full port TLT
I want to go long TLT then I go on twitter and Gayed is bullish on it. SMH!
Why is Imothep always out here ruining my TLT position ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
Is it time to go long the TLT?
I'm balls deep in TLT and selling covered calls after div ex dates 1500 shares in trading acct 3500 in long term.
I keep praising TLT as a good buy and comments here are now saying the same thing. I better pull out while I have more than $0
Suggest to wait until TLT goes lower, may be under $85. Because prospect of rate cut in June is remote. Do you agree?
Not safe at all, the market routinely has five to 10% corrections every year, we just hit five. They often come on suddenly, just like this one, there is usually a narrative, just like this one. However, sell-offs do tend to start exactly the same way which makes handicapping it very difficult. With rates so high there is a great argument to have a fairly decent percentage of your account in TLT. If things do go to hell they are going to be forced to cut and cut more aggressively than we expect right now. If that happens as stocks fall you can use that bond money to buy the good deals. If this does not happen you're still buying TLT down around the bottom of the financial crisis. It's a generational price reset. Because trying to predict where stocks are going to go over the next few months is virtually impossible. The probability though, is that things really aren't that bad. We just ran up to to year end consensus by the end of March. People were looking for an excuse to sell. What would start giving the sell off story more credibility is if we close under s&p 4800 and continue selling off fairly aggressively, 1 to 2% days while bonds rally. If that happens it's a signal that the Fed is too late
Great opportunity to go long on TLT again
TLT lookin prime rn ngl
Never bought Tesla. Only wounds I got are from TLT. And Atom's the one I really hope goes public. But don't let me interrupt your two minutes hate!
Sold put too early, at least TLT and PM are still green
My 87/90 TLT strangle got hosed. Glad I sold it for a loss yesterday. I think this market goes sideways.
Israel won’t seriously retaliate against Iran in exchange the US will let them continue their war vs Palestinians. Biden would prefer this bc he can’t have oil creating more inflation. Addidas showing China recovery. Should be a big boost for companies like Apple and Nike! Moon szn bc it’s EARNINGS SZN! Plus post tax day relief buying! TLT is telling us people are ready to buy bonds again bc this war hypothetical is cooling.
Israel won’t seriously retaliate against Iran in exchange the US will let them continue their war vs Palestinians. Biden would prefer this bc he can’t have oil creating more inflation. Addidas showing China recovery. Should be a big boost for companies like Apple and Nike! Moon szn bc it’s EARNINGS SZN! Plus post tax day relief buying! TLT is telling us people are ready to buy bonds again bc this war hypothetical is cooling.
I have 1540 TLT calls expiring today. Literally saving my ass
I wish I was smart enough to understand what TLT jumping up means
Israel won’t seriously retaliate against Iran in exchange the US will let them continue their war vs Palestinians. Biden would prefer this bc he can’t have oil creating more inflation. Addidas showing China recovery. Should be a big boost for companies like Apple and Nike! Moon szn bc it’s EARNINGS SZN! Plus post tax day relief buying! TLT is telling us people are ready to buy bonds again bc this war hypothetical is cooling.
Over the course of the next year, which do you think is more likely to perform better? TLT or SLV
Gathered 500 shares the last couple weeks. It’s a hold for couple years for sure. BUT, hate to break it ta ya that premiums in calls for TLT sucks ass.
Yeah dropped TLT as soon as I saw inflation was hot. Plus I HATE the financial system. I’m gold or crypto instead of bonds. Unless it starts printing 10% or more
TLT tilting rn ![img](emote|t5_2th52|33495)
SGOV for short term, TLT for long term
You guys ever look at the monthly TLT chart? You see how not smooth it is? The part that keeps standing out to me is how yields continually climb into a crisis and then you have this massive green reversal candle as everything is falling apart. I'm just sitting here starring at that today and we are getting pretty close to the all time lows. Yields are really high. If this plays out like normal cycles, stocks traditionally don't do well at this point and sooner or later bonds go on this massive rally for a couple of months. I'm certainly not making the call on stocks falling, I think there is still good narrative and if things soften up a bit we might save this but if they wait until it's blatantly obvious that inflation is really getting down there. It's too late, we had a decade of cheap Chinese production which no longer exists in the capacity that it did. India is ramping up but not fast enough. Just in the past 20 days or so at my own business spending has been down. The year started off extremely strong and now it's softening. Same thing I noticed with mall traffic.
Economy more important than my TLT and TMF, let’s moon SPY
own a TON of TLTW for a year , (b/c) I see rate inflation go range up-dn-up-dn , (won't cut that soon) , choose TLTW rather than TLT a year ago. Have a big problem : it generates a lots of CASH dividends EVERY MONTH, 18% last year. Tax away at 24% on my Reg Account. Don't know what to do with all that CASH, just use it to buy TLT every month! Anyone have a better solutions? Will TLTW dividends ever will become "qualified dividends" and being taxed at 15%?
I don't think long duration bonds are for those with a low risk tolerance. They carry extreme duration risk right now because our economic future is unclear. The bond market is still pricing in rate cuts even with the 10y moving up to 4.66%. No rate cuts would eventually uninvert the yield curve on the long end. That means a 5.4%+ 10y and a ~10% drop in the price of TLT that would eat the 4.5% dividends and then some.
what does it mean when TLT is dying
TLT is a bond ETF idk why people downvote him as the comment clearly said TLT. You asked instead of the other apes who downvoted kudos to you.
Even before these numbers employment was only being supported by federal/local government employment and a rebound in the hospitality industry. Some states where these factors apply less, like California, have seen large increases in unemployment. 30 year rate has increased today to nearly 4.8% on the back of poor inflation data and strong retail spending over the last week. My own thinking is that retail spending is hardly going to decrease until employment does, while inflation data is largely driven by auto insurance and shelter. I'm not sure I buy the argument that the economy is roaring. To me it looks like the jobs market is still loosening, albeit slowly, and liquidity is starting to grow thinner. I'll get downvoted for this opinion but if these employment trends continue to worsen we could see bond yields tumble off a cliff. Not sure I'm ready to start getting calls on TLT/EDV yet, but if it hits nearer 5% I sure will consider it.
I thought that there cannot be more painful investment than $TLT but then I looked at $TSLA and realised it is down 37% YTD! Jesus Christ, what is Musk doing?
TLT puts printed me so much money
I mean it might work but you can fucked really bad with TLT if it chills there in a range. SPY won't do that once 10Y bottoms.
The problem with that is they can just chill there. SPY is FAR safer. TLT is trash.
Calls on TLT much safer if it hits low 80s again
TLT having its way with me. Thought wed get a lil pump 😪
TLT is gonna get blown to smithereens
No one makes money trying to trade headlines. It's anticipating where the shifts are going to come over the next 6 to 24 months. Who knows when the high in yield is going to be in. The only thing we do know looking at debt to GDP, government spending, so on and so forth is rates cannot stay up here indefinitely. You look at the monthly chart on TLT and the ZB bond. Typically buying decade support levels is a good trade on a major asset like that.. at the low TLT was cut in half. 50% correction on the long bond. I'm not even sure when we last had that opportunity. People get sucked up in the new narrative and whatever the media is feeding them. The same financial media that likes to keep cheering on tops and scaring people around bottoms. All they want is views and clicks, they don't care about sharing decent information or even realistic thought
The masculine urge to go balls deep with TLT puts with my life savings ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)
No puts but holding SQQQ for long time. Banks have been loading up on TLT, volumes on all the inverse etfs have been extremely high. Long term bearish divergence (weekly) on major indices. Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles everywhere!
Who says America doesn't want escalation? Have you seen the trading volumes on SQQQ and TLT lately?
I used to post from a yacht. Now I'm here in the slums. Long TLT
I'm thinking this is what bear bond euphoria looks like You can look at the monthly charts, you're sitting around financial crisis levels. Like TLT is a few bucks away from its all time low. Articles are being printed about rates higher rates higher. All this bear narrative The only question is how heavy and how much exposure to bonds do I want in my account. It's already higher than it's ever been 😂
TLT tank says people aren’t scared of a recession. This is all 10 year rainbow bear action
I used to follow this guy on Stocktwits that had long dated TLT calls and said he bought them far out so he had plenty of time...that was like over a year ago. He's probably dead now.
Don't think this dip ever had much to do with the middle east. TLT was the main driver and people just slapped on the middle east narrative
Wait for TLT to hit double bottom. Look at the charts. 2003 it hit low, then 2004 new low. Again, 2006 hit low, then 2007 new low. Again, 2009 hit low, then 2010 new low. So, you think 2023 hit low, then maybe 2024 hit new low? Wait for $82, ride it back up. Free money.
What does this mean for funds like $TLT $TMF etc.?
Why LEAPs for TLT? Was thinking of legging in starting in around here + getting dividend
TLT Leaps, only way to play bonds (other than outright /Z futures)
TFW allocated my money market funds into TLT and TMF too early
TLT calls. Betting we rebound to 89.50 or so if tensions ease. Im assuming yields up cause of oil
Puts for days! TLT and VXX
Got some TLT calls on the dip 👀
Dude tou said TLT 140 this year. Eventually yeah maybe. This year? We’d need a black swan collapse to make rate cuts to nearly 0
TLT is a long term buy and hold strategy with shares and leaps. It will go up but it might take several years
Wheel TLT for 8% (in a horrid bond market?)? Im bullish bonds but this aint free money and youll just chase it for pennies when it rebounds.
$MARA, $SOFI, $TLT... Everything I touch if I'm being honest.
Bought 100 shares of TLT. As they say: "Be fearful when others are greedy. And (irrationally) greedy when others are (rationally) fearful"
How difficult do you think it is to get better risk-adjusted return than the US stock market (i.e. VTI) over the long run when you manage your own portfolio? Manage your portfolio as in DCA into ETFs like VTI, QQQ, BND, TLT, etc. but quarterly rebalance at my discretion. Maybe even diversify into international stocks like VGK, FLJP, and MCHI. I'm guessing very difficult since this is basically what fund managers do, and ones that can outperform the market get paid a bazillion.
Just to give some color, I’m dead wrong on the futures open, ES is slightly up, VX futures slightly lower (~.7%). I think if Israel has no response by end of day Monday we should see vol come out more. Bond vol is lower and yields higher. I think if you’re trading the vol here, you want to be weary of Israeli response. I think we don’t see escalation through Monday so it might be a good day to collect some theta. If Israel starts talking about a real response I think buying calls in fixed income such as TLT etf or ZF futures would be a good trade
I'd diversify with a portfolio of the following strategies : OTM credit call spreads on SPY, OTM credit put spreads on TLT, maybe a touch of GLD and/or USO in there. I'd also diversify expiries. The spreads don't need to be very wide and too close to the money. Don't be greedy. Sometimes you'll lose, but that's the game, if you choose your strikes correctly you'll average somewhere around 8% / year.
I’m waiting to get back into TLT. I hope 89.50 wasn’t the bottom
Full port TLT when bond yields hit around 5% has been a great play
FED buying the long end means it’s time to buy TLT. Highs for the 10yr is in, they not gonna let it pop to 5%+ and create a crisis. 4.5 risk free is 50% higher than most models price eventually the bond market is gonna wake up gobble these treasuries up. Yesterday shows exactly why the USD and US Gov debt is backed by. 500 combined drones/cruise/ballistic missiles and not a single casualty. USA USA SPY $520 EOW 🇺🇸🦅
TLT does seem like a solid play rn. Flight to safety
The Fed quietly bought $300M+ of longer dated treasuries Friday. QE is back baby! TLT 120+ inc