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+TLT -selling near term OTM covered calls for steady income - good strategy?
On what timeframe does the bond market price interest rate changes in?
What do you guys think? SQQQ and TLT?
Inherited a bit of money, any good advice?
Thoughts on buying TLT now that JPow said rate cuts are on the table?
Risk free and guaranteed high return investment?
TLT Options Play / FED Cut Early Mid 24? / Vix Low
Is it the right time to invest in long-term bonds?
Is there a way to realize gains in one stock and move those realized gains into another stock without being taxed?
Investing in a treasury bond ETF a good idea? Please advise and don't make me talk to boomers at r/bonds
Why long-duration, low-coupon treasury bonds are about to return 25%
Why would a long term investor buy stocks rather than long term bonds, currently?
Potential 6 Month Trade on TLT Targeting >14% Annualized Return
what's the point of tlt if it's just as volatile as stocks
TLT covered call(buy-write) will yield around 14%. Is this a good place to park money I won't need for 3 years?
I made a free theta gang options group. Trying to build a community of non degenerates
Just made a 10K loan to gamble in bonds
Oil Tanker Stock Investors vs TLT Bag Holders
Powell will Powell the Economy + Bond ETFs for 🏳️🌈 🐻
Powell will Powell the Economy + Why I'm buying TLT as a 🏳️🌈 🐻
how to maximize Exposure to interest rate movements with bonds ?
Rates are not high and the market is not crashing especially when Apple is still near ATH and not $120.
Generational buying opportunity on TLT
How Do Bond ETFs Work, and What Happens to the Principal at Maturity
Why is the yield and SEC 30 day yield of TLT so different? Which one tells you the annualized rate of the next dividend?
Find most correlated stock to TLT (treasury bond)
10Y Bonds at 4.8% Are Attractive,Especially Now
What if WSB could ignite the spark that sends $TLT parabolic?
Expected moves this week: SPY, QQQ, TLT, USO and earnings from Citi, JP Morgan, Wells and more.
With the sky high Bond Yields would it be a good idea to buy US Treasury Bond ETFs right now?
$70k Puts QQQ: The World Will Burn Edition
Is it finally, finally, finally time for TLT / long dated treasuries?
Are TLT Leaps so cheap they are worth it?
30 year US treasury yield is much better than TLT which has avg maturity of 25 years
Considering Long Duration Bonds as an Opportunity
Is TLT Hitting its Bottom? My Play for the Upcoming Rebound.
Putted 20k in bonds and down -20%
Looking for a Simple Backtest Analysis to Do. Any Ideas?
Wall Street Newsletter S03E02: Four Research papers from Jackson Hole Symposium 2023.
How to get rid of my trading habit to invest properly! Fear of losing the money!!
Doesn’t need to make sense needs to make money
Boomers Getting Flushed With Their "Balanced" Portfolios
Why is TLT still falling despite disinflation, looming recession fears and China deflation (exporting it to RoW).
Wall Street Week Ahead for the trading week beginning August 14th, 2023
Increasing order of risk. IEI < HYG < JNK < TLT 😂
Just sold all my VOO and QQQ to put 90% in TLT and 10% in Bitcoin. Am I dumb?
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The fact that Gold rallied this morning while US 10 yr was also moving higher is all I need to see. The inverse relationship b/w gold and US interest rates is breaking down. What good is $TLT as a hedge if it isn't acting like a hedge?
TLT is such a piece of shit. Long duration risk on stocks outperform tlt during a fucning energy crisis and global slowdown. Hilarious
I'm buying more AT&T here hoping that it will bounce off it's 200 DMA. Don't tell MutaliskGluon; but I plan to trade my remaining $TLT shares for AT&T and Verizon since I think the telecoms have better cashflows than the US gov to make their dividend payments.
We win and we learn. SGOV gld and TLT the only acceptable bearish positions
How can anyone lose money today on the long side? easy, LONG TLT .. POS
TLT taking a dump… stay frosty.
You might've convinced me to hold onto my 25% position in $TLT. Gold couldn't hold $4800 this morning. The grains are well off the end of war lows. The problem is we're gonna get a double dip recession like 1970's; so the Fed can't cut unless things get so bad that they have to choose jobs over inflation. And they will choose jobs over inflation. But it's gotta get that bad 1st.
Buy the fear, sell the greed. In 7 days I turn to the darkside. If $TLT doesn't catch a bid by then I will be free of a wash sale and I will be selling all my $TLT shares and replacing that position with shares of AT&T and Verizon. If I just want a 4% dividend the telecoms dividend is there & I'd wager At&T and Verizon are better capitalized than the US gov. I hope the $TLT trade works for your sake.
Fuck it, I don't know what to do so I'm going to sell 5 CSP's on TLT at the $85 strike.
My $TLT shares are still Red today. Good thing too as I might've gotten too cocky today after BTD if my entire port was Green today : P
I overcommitted to my TLT strangle and am trying to slowly derisk it while treating it as a spread. I bought a Sony put on Thursday and it may pay off already.
And physical delivery prices for just a few weeks out is around 145 while futures for next year are in the 70s. Hard to know where things will end up because so many of the variables are incredibly volatile. Oil will however go up until demand comes down or supply to the market is restored. Supply from Russia is cut. Strait is closed. Infrastructure in middle east has been hit. Supply will likely not be restored for a long time. So then your basically banking on demand dropping off a cliff. That's a very ugly recession with possibly a great deal of inflation tossed in as well. So what scenario do you think is probable? I think we are probably 2+ years before supply is restored. Demand will drop only after the economy collapses, but the prices for anything that gets to market will likely go up. That will likely make for a liquidity crisis with a bunch of businesses failing. Even if the strait reopens tomorrow that just shifts it from a really ugly scenario to less ugly grind to restore destroyed infrastructure. Even that is likely 6+ months out for oil and several years for LNG supply. The lack of LNG will push energy demand into other types or destroy industrial manufacturing capacity in Europe. My play is buying tlt and selling calls with a large part of my portfolio and avoiding tech. Tech depends upon AI data center build out and successfully monetizing that. The former will run into trouble due to energy issues and the latter will find the end use customers are broke. Outside of TLT I'm just slowly buying the dip in voo, rsp, and schd (plus a tiny qqq position I haven't sold) knowing that the bottom could be significantly further below us or the next ath could be years away.
Bagholding ETHA right now collecting peanuts cuz my cost basis is far OTM. Mostly cash gang right now, but I think I'm gonna sell some CSP's on XLF/XLP/TLT as a defensive play. I'm autistic so I don't know what I'm doing.
There are only so many bond tickers with weekly options and AFAIK TLT is the only one with MWF expirations. $20 per contract isn't much but it adds up if you're doing it 3 times a week.
That play only works if interest rates are level or go down. If inflation spikes, interest rates on 30-year bonds are going to go up even if the fed rate doesn't change. And the fed also tends to raise rates when inflation spikes. Unless you're holding those 30-year bonds to maturity, they could lose a lot of value, and this becomes more likely if inflation increases. This very thing just happened in 2022; check out the chart for TLT. It looks like you picked the thing with the highest interest rate that sounds safe (treasury bonds). Long-duration nominal bonds are not safe. They are risk assets, especially if not held to maturity. Even if rates on 30-year bonds hold steady, if inflation spikes, it directly counteracts the yield you're getting on those bonds. If you think the government is manipulating CPI, you might be interested in physical gold, crypto, or physical cash. Those are also risk assets. Short duration inflation indexed bonds are made to preserve capital over shorter periods of time if high inflation is a risk. Maybe you're not concerned about that risk or its consequences. Some people use T-Bills for this on the theory that the fed will raise rates if inflation spikes, but I don't know if that will certainly pan out, hence I bonds.
I play TLT puts, $75 '27 Jun as hedge. $40t debt milestone coming up soon, Gulf petro$ flow stopped, monumental inflation shock is also coming. Looks like a perfect storm...
Welcome to the brotherhood. I cover 100% of my living expenses with covered TLT options.
IV crush on my TLT strangle. Been gradually converting into a spread to derisk. Bought a bear put spread for Sony. Worst case, I lose 25 of my 65 realized bucks. If Sony goes above 22.38 though, I sell at profit.
You bought TLT call LEAPS with inflation risk and possible rate hikes?
I need to understand wtf I’m looking at. I have TLT calls but I don’t have this duration. Why
Yeah I read about it a bit tonight along with your responses It's all interesting. So if rates get lowered the 20 year bonds look more favorable or if investors want a safe haven due to a instability/volatility TLT should rise? I read about the bull case for TLT and seems there may be alot of room to run. I saw reply to a mention that this admin might want to inflate the debt away and it reminds me of the following. I remember comments pre election by the Vance and Trump about deflating the dollar to increase exports. I also remember Trump talking about paying down the national debt with bitcoin which would expand on a deflated dollar in that theory. I do really like that TLT did well during the pandemic downturn that makes me believe this has more room to run.
The vol component of options on TLT should and does trade more with the MOVE index than VIX There is definitely a group out there that shares your belief that inflating the debt away is the motive of this admin. Some of the pts they make are interesting and intellectual but not super compelling or realistic to me for a variety of reasons. 2 immediately obvious reasons come to mind. Inflating the debt away would mean materially higher yields which would destroy the biggest source of net worth for most Americans, the housing market. Mortgages would be cost prohibitive. The other reason is it would abs crush corporate America. Capitalism as we know it depends on one thing and one the only: the extension of credit and the corporate bond market. They wouldn’t be able to borrow at reasonable rates anymore. So while this school of thought is interesting, doesn’t seem realistic. Plus the last time 10yr yields got to where we are today (4.50%) was post liberation day and they admin couldn’t take the heat anymore. Clearly this admin had sensitivities around 10yr tsy yields at 4.50 or higher This trade does not need rate cuts. In fact I’d argue this trade doesn’t want to see near term cuts.
TLT moved 0.6% today and this option went up 5x that. It’s not bad. Just need to have the stomach for it. Plus you can write shorter dated, higher strike calls against it for carry/income while you wait. It’s pretty decent
Doing this without a rate cut thesis is kind of surprising. If I suddenly had $1.6 mil in TLT calls, I'd be hyper focused on employment, since that's the path to rate cuts with inflation seeming pretty sticky.
I’m bullish TLT but cot damn you got big balls https://preview.redd.it/7n3znbl90wsg1.jpeg?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a395fd18a7318cddc6290f264e47e70d55a68920
If loss ain’t bad roll that to 2028. Term structure in TLT options is fairly cheap
MOVE index implies way higher rates vol than what TLT options/calls are pricing in. Arb opp. Sometimes boring means $
I think TLT gonna go down right? If we really have 150-200 oil fed's gonna need to raise rates not cut. TLT would go down then right. Maybe I'd be buying puts
If TLT is 120, and this call goes to $35, I’m okay with even a 4pt bidask.
Someone got some chalk? I need to write "I will no longer gamble on TLT 0dtes" 500 times on the blackboard.
I use TLT/TMF. The deflationary force is rising. You can see from the past few trading session. Yes oil soar, but yields are pretty stable in a tight range. Job cuts jump, the privot is arrived. Wall st will start pay attention to weakening econ rather than stagflation.
OIl up TLT down Oil down TLT down Inflation up TLT down Inflation moderating? TLT DOWN Fuck u TLT
Now would be a great time for TLT to crash. Just saying...
That giant red candle on TLT at end of market has me preparing for the worst. If IV spikes, roll my strangle. I diamond-handed my HRL CSP from being ITM to OTM. Getting better at this.
Most of Reddit doesn't know what they're talking about. I agree w/ you short term; especially w/ US stocks. The $SPY is nearly 2x as concentrated in 6-10 stocks names vs dot com market cap levels. There's still that downside risk. It's just this place became such a bear's den; i couldn't help BTD and DCA into my long term World ex-US stocks & Gold positions. I am looking at that Gold chart, and my cost basis is around $3500 after BTD heavily around $4400-$4600. I somehow timed the last BTD right selling my $PHYS tax lots bought in that range in Feb at $5200. I might be pushing my luck hoping for $5k to sell these recent BTD gold tax lots. I think buying Gold at $3500 is a no brainer. Gold was just below $2k before Covid. CB's pumped the money supply up by 50-75%. The new fair price of Gold is $3500. I'm trying to thread the needle here b/w long term vs short term. I want 25% Gold, 25% $VXUS (world ex-US), 25% $TLT, and 25% World plus US or maybe just $SPY. Once interest rates reach 2% I cash out of $TLT and find a new trade. I haven't bought that last 25% US stock position yet; b/c despite reddit citing me as a perma-bull; I'm really not.
Glad I held onto my TLT puts. I see IV spiking from today's drop.
Man, you are gonna convince me to buy heavier into this $TLT trade. $86.64 was the lowest price where I sold the last tax lots on $TLT when I rebalanced from 50% to 25%. I see that's about where we are now. I need to stop listening to you..I was about to turn bullish.
TLT and TIP crashing back to earth at close. Back to reality tomorrow.
Why would TLT just do that AH?
Go to tradingview and check out TLT on the 1m candles. Like wtf. Pension funds were supposed to sell TLT and buy SPY (well equities but you know) today for EOQ rebalancing. Apparently all the selling took place in the last 5 minutes lmao. At least all my 87.00 calls expired worthless today haha
Let's see how we close. That will tell us whether institutions are buying into DJT tweet of the day. US Treasury yields matter more for foreign markets & peeps than Americans. I think you may time your $TLT trade which I still have a hedge position in. But for Americans it is better to own $GLD over $TLT to hedge our USD currency risks. We have to balance inflation & loss of USD purchasing power vs the price of equities (even if they are expensive). I am NOT bullish at all; but these indices prices are worth BTD in as part of a long term DCA investment strategy. I still think you should hedge your $TLT port with $GLD & $VXUS and maybe $VT if you ever feel a wild bullish hair up your ass : )
I might move some cash from $GLD to $TLT. I was hoping to trim at 426, but I might be getting too greedy : ) I really don't want to use anymore dry powder. I fired off way more the last 2 weeks than I maybe should have.
I just ate a hamburger with a fried egg bacon stripe, and crispy onions. I love vacation days 😌. You should up that TLT allocation soon. Can't be much downside from here
Out of these the only bit I'm sure of is that China won't make a move on Taiwan, US is doing enough damage already to all it's relations on its own - China only needs to help Iran indirectly and win by staying put. I have TLT puts as hedge and long on space stocks. We'll see...
Retail is trying to short TLT the bottom is definitely in
Retail is trying to short TLT retail versus the bonds. The bottom is definitely in.
Some of you 🫵 are shorting TLT and there’s no better signal than that! the bottom is in!
On TLT? Probably, ressesion cuts are starting to be priced in. The Spy? Idk about that one
I saw a retail trying a short TLT the bottom is definitely in
I think I'm beginning to understand why peeps in Canada or abroad are forced to consider $TLT as a hedge. Your hedging your currency against USD. I guess that's why some of us Americans find Gold so appealing. We are hedging our own currency & $TLT vs Gold. If you're a conspiracy theorist it is very funny that the Iran war started when the Epstein files dropped. I find conspiracies interesting; but try not to make money decisions based on them.
Not necessarily. Rebalancing happens over time not all on the last day. Maybe a bulk of it has already happened? And it really just means there will be a TLT -> SPY flow. Doesnt mean SPY will do great, just means SPY will do better vs TLT than it would if there werent rebalancing occuring
$TLT rallied today. $GLD was basically flat. People were buying assets besides just Crude Oil, today. I believe we've hit the bottom. At the very least, selling exhaustion is starting to set in.
They bounced cleanly off 5% but one never knows. TLT dropped to 82ish around 2006 before rebounding to 120 or so.
I am surprised TLT stayed above 88.50 today, so I took the L on some puts and turned it into a strangle, still slightly bearish. But somehow I was green today.
Dear TLT, Please drop to 86.50 or lower so my 0 DTE CCs are pure profit instead of making me sell. Or just gap down tomorrow so I can buy you back cheaper. You arent allowed to pump yet, I still havent loaded on calls
I need TLT to pump some more. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I'm glad I bought **TLT September calls** that are now **down 60%**. Thank you, Reddit!
quarter end rebalancing is happening today and tomorrow. SPY down a lot more than TLT so flows should be coming out of TLT and into SPY today / tomorrow.
I really think you should do a deeper dive into bonds.They will likely get crushed in the medium term as intrest rates rise. Every year you'll get diluted by the government, as they issue more. We also haven't seen the inflation come down the pipe yet from food, energy, fertilizer. There will be a time and place to buy some bonds. But I would really avoid them right now. Just trend TLT against USO over the last 50 years (highly correlated) For in depth information you can watch Infranomics and my personal favorite Against All Odds Research.
I like your post but I wouldnt touch TLT with your dick
Oil says: Fuck you VIX says: Fuck you TLT says: Okay man, calm down, it's just one drink, I can drive
Welp, my Sony shares are fucked for the short term. Collaring TLT has kept my port from violently dying, and I've even harvested some gains now and then. If it rejects 87 though, I am reloading some more puts.
LOL, the Iran War has already covered up the AI tech crash which I like to call dot com 2.0 and also the private credit disaster. But, if you can look through the smoke we are hitting previous support levels on $VT, $VXUS , $GLD and the $SPY that we've previously hit 3-4x going back the prior 52 weeks. Disclosure - 30% $GLD, 20% $VXUS, 20% $TLT, and 10% $EWJ, 10% $VT and 10% $SPY. I'm not smart enough to pick the correct stocks that will bounce after this DXY short squeeze is over. World CB money printers are about to go BRRR......
Agreed, but I am a dumb American. My savings are in USD. My port is now 20% $TLT, 20% VXUS, 20% $EWJ, 30% GLD, and 10% random shit that is going south fast. I still have 30-40% of my dry powder left. I should have put in an order to buy at close if I wasn't such an idiot.
Oil still can't break $100 and TLT holding gains off the lows. Time to BTFD.
There's nothing to sell in a DXY short squeeze, except Crude Oil. Especially when $TLT stopped being a hedge about a month ago. Long live King Dollar. Your reign will have one last big gasp. We are watching the last days of the petrodollar system used to price Crude Oil.
TLT is headed up, what's up with that
I’m TLT, I’m dynamite, I’m TLT, I go down all night 🎶
Vix pushing 30 and TLT at 85.66, yeah, there's a TACO coming but last night's appetizer TACO has me a bit worried. What if the boy cries TACO too many times and it doesn't work? Do we drill and force a for realsies withdrawal from the middle east by Monday morning?
It could be worse. You could be a TLT bol
I am surprised TLT is not below 80 considering the unrealized reconstruction cost and inflation Iran war brings.
Tqqq, some spider etfs have good volume (xlu, xlf, xlp) TLT (treasuries 20yrs), bitcoin/ethereum
I bought one TLT call for tomorrow as a hedge for surprise pumps, but have mainly been scalping and reloading puts. I see yields continuing to climb alongside oil.
is TLT not having increased yields right now? The price is going down so it's relative yield is increasing, right?
That's the reason I moved cash from stocks to Gold today. We are seeing foreign countries cash reserves move from US treasuries to Gold. Now short term Gold could retrace all the way to $3400 or perhaps lower. Buying more $TLT might be the right short term move today; but who the hell wants to hold 20-30 yr US Treasuries long term? We are already seeing foreign countries move away from US Treasuries to Gold. I might take a bloodbath on my Gold holdings in 2026; but I think by 2030-2035 I'll be glad I looked long term and bought gold instead.
Because it's not 1:1. You've got lots of things in the mix: TLT is already at historic lows, bonds are starting to look more attractive as people are really fearing a long bear market, etc. At first, you have people having to liquidate whatever they can to pay off margin, but that will slowly start to dry up, and bonds are not what you want to liquidate anyway unless you have to. Also the the last plummet in TLT was an insane over correction because it's been down for so long, people get spooked easily about it.
Why is TLT disconnected from the today's long-term bonds yield increase? TLT would in a normal be down at least 1.5%.
Why is TLT disconnected from the today's long-term bonds yield increase? TLT would in a normal be down at least 1.5%.
$TLT better catch a bid or this gold selloff is never ending.
TLT is catching a bid while QQQ falls off a cliff. For the last 2 weeks these 2 have traded very similiarly, with TLT being like a low beta QQQ more or less. This relationship breaking is a BAD SIGN (for bulls) as it means TLT is getting a bid for risk off rather than selling off with QQQ due to oil prices being high.
**Long-term investment portfolio, age 30, budget $150k** 1. VOO – 40% 2. QQQ – 20% 3. GLD – 10% 4. BSV – 5% 5. VGIT – 3% 6. TLT – 2% 7. FTGC – 10% 8. SPMO – 5% 9. ARKK – 5% Now, let me explain why I designed it this way: 1. VOO is a fund that invests in the S&P 500 index. 2. QQQ is the Nasdaq-100 index fund. 3. GLD is a gold fund. 4. BSV is a short-term U.S. Treasury bond fund. 5. VGIT is an intermediate-term U.S. Treasury bond fund. 6. TLT is a long-term U.S. Treasury bond fund. 7. FTGC is a commodities fund (aluminum, iron, steel, copper, barley, wheat, palladium, platinum, and more). 8. SPMO is a momentum stock fund. 9. ARKK is a technology fund. I’m waiting for your comments.
taking my MU loss to short TLT
Its pretty bad when your port is a mix of diversified sectors, TLT, and metals and the only thing up in the port is SGOV
$TLT is still a decent buy here for the risk adverse investor. There's a decent chance it outperforms both the $SPY and $GLD. My port is still 25% $TLT, but that's down from 50% $TLT 2 weeks ago. I'm starting to think we have to ignore everything on the charts before 2020. All CB's just pumped & printed so much cash into the world that there's distortion if you look at the charts prior to 2020 to make any comparison b/w now and pre-2020. Of course this might also be the type of misjudgment peeps have made to justify prior cycle market tops.
TLT is my main position. 300 shares. I have been mainly scalping puts. However, I also now have a broken wing butterfly for it. 2 covered calls at 90.5, 3 calls at 92. Net premium 0.. I have two puts. One is May 1, 86.5. and another is May 15, 86. I am selling puts against these to chip away at cost basis. That said, I am most likely going to add bull put spreads to support this.
$TLT will likely moon now that I have a larger position in Gold than US Treasuries in my port for the first time ever.
hopefully. Just lost all my TLT to covered calls expiring today :(. I want them back lower
So all in on TLT and commodities?
The real play today was buying TLT when it was sub 86
I keep forgetting that I really really need TLT to be > $90 not < $80
I bought one put to hedge my TLT shares. I am also selling puts against it.
Biggest head and shoulders ever on TLT. I hope tomorrow is a circuit breaker.