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+TLT -selling near term OTM covered calls for steady income - good strategy?
On what timeframe does the bond market price interest rate changes in?
What do you guys think? SQQQ and TLT?
Inherited a bit of money, any good advice?
Thoughts on buying TLT now that JPow said rate cuts are on the table?
Risk free and guaranteed high return investment?
TLT Options Play / FED Cut Early Mid 24? / Vix Low
Is it the right time to invest in long-term bonds?
Is there a way to realize gains in one stock and move those realized gains into another stock without being taxed?
Investing in a treasury bond ETF a good idea? Please advise and don't make me talk to boomers at r/bonds
Why long-duration, low-coupon treasury bonds are about to return 25%
Why would a long term investor buy stocks rather than long term bonds, currently?
Potential 6 Month Trade on TLT Targeting >14% Annualized Return
what's the point of tlt if it's just as volatile as stocks
TLT covered call(buy-write) will yield around 14%. Is this a good place to park money I won't need for 3 years?
I made a free theta gang options group. Trying to build a community of non degenerates
Just made a 10K loan to gamble in bonds
Oil Tanker Stock Investors vs TLT Bag Holders
Powell will Powell the Economy + Bond ETFs for 🏳️🌈 🐻
Powell will Powell the Economy + Why I'm buying TLT as a 🏳️🌈 🐻
how to maximize Exposure to interest rate movements with bonds ?
Rates are not high and the market is not crashing especially when Apple is still near ATH and not $120.
Generational buying opportunity on TLT
How Do Bond ETFs Work, and What Happens to the Principal at Maturity
Why is the yield and SEC 30 day yield of TLT so different? Which one tells you the annualized rate of the next dividend?
Find most correlated stock to TLT (treasury bond)
10Y Bonds at 4.8% Are Attractive,Especially Now
What if WSB could ignite the spark that sends $TLT parabolic?
Expected moves this week: SPY, QQQ, TLT, USO and earnings from Citi, JP Morgan, Wells and more.
With the sky high Bond Yields would it be a good idea to buy US Treasury Bond ETFs right now?
$70k Puts QQQ: The World Will Burn Edition
Is it finally, finally, finally time for TLT / long dated treasuries?
Are TLT Leaps so cheap they are worth it?
30 year US treasury yield is much better than TLT which has avg maturity of 25 years
Considering Long Duration Bonds as an Opportunity
Is TLT Hitting its Bottom? My Play for the Upcoming Rebound.
Putted 20k in bonds and down -20%
Looking for a Simple Backtest Analysis to Do. Any Ideas?
Wall Street Newsletter S03E02: Four Research papers from Jackson Hole Symposium 2023.
How to get rid of my trading habit to invest properly! Fear of losing the money!!
Doesn’t need to make sense needs to make money
Boomers Getting Flushed With Their "Balanced" Portfolios
Why is TLT still falling despite disinflation, looming recession fears and China deflation (exporting it to RoW).
Wall Street Week Ahead for the trading week beginning August 14th, 2023
Increasing order of risk. IEI < HYG < JNK < TLT 😂
Just sold all my VOO and QQQ to put 90% in TLT and 10% in Bitcoin. Am I dumb?
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Looks like shorting bonds/TLT was the real play on Friday's close
TLT down more than SPY. looool
TLT is only down because it pays a monthly dividend. Bonds are looking pretty flat right now. The dividend would be partially priced into the calls you purchased.
Next ex-dividend for TLT. I expect it to keep crawling up in which case I may sell shares off in tranches.
$TLT Never Leaving #EmuArmy https://preview.redd.it/qg3brnvynimg1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce4c5300cba64901bdee4a71bfdb825125510158
TLT going to rocket once again
It seems like you have a low risk tolerance. Have you considered a bond ladder. I am getting close to 5 % on 20 year zero coupons. You also might consider something more like VYM, SCHD, VYMI and TLT. I would keep at one years worth of living expense in cash and slowly invest as your tolerance allows. Maybe something like : 25% Cash 25% bond ladder 25% income stocks/etf. SCHD VYM VYMI 25% Growth VOO, SPY VTI
should I start buying TLT for this recession
Believe it or not, calls on TLT or TMF
Wealthsimple on Canada. Apparently TLT traded as high as as 90.03 in AH so maybe that explains it but doesn't pass the smell test
LMAO WTF. I had sold CCs on 400 of my TLT shares for 91.00 expiring Friday and they were assigned even though TLT closed at 90.86. Wtf. Literally what the fuck. Why were they assigned when TLT never traded above 91. Now with the iran news TLT gonna gap up big time and im gonna lose out on the gains because of this nonsense.
I would look at $VT. If you invest world stock ETF you are going to get more industrials, materials, etc b/c unlike US stocks, world indices lean more to non tech stocks. Plus you still get US tech stocks. Now that is the smart move. If you want to play around w/ 25% then I've been buying gold, $EWY (South Korea), $EWJ (Japan), $IGF (world infrastructure), $TLT (US Treasuries), $XLU (utilities). But $VT might be the best if you are looking to diversify now.
Bond etfs. TLT is up 1.41% this week, and now 4.35% YTD. I had been using the last few months to DCA my way into it and it might pay off soon.
taking a break from anything other than TLT and SGOV. Managing emotions >> chasing
Why the hell is TLT up today? Inflation came in hot
$TLT has to break thru $92 or I am going to start selling. I have tax lots up to $90.98 still from when we were both buying $TLT before the Trump Pivot last year. I am anticipating having a windfall of cash to put somewhere from the sale of those $TLT shares w/i next 2 weeks so I've been speeding up my stocks & ETF's purchases. If $TLT breaks thru I have more than enough cash to use instead of selling $TLT.
Damn, up 6% on TLT, XLV, XLU. Its like defensive positioning is a thing. Weird that bonds continue to take the inflation in stride though...something must be deflationary in the 8-12 month term (provided a rug pull isnt imminent) equation...AI, layoffs, midterms, tariffs ending maybe. Big money is putting volume into that narrative.
someone explain to my dumbass why TLT can rise on hot PPI?
WMT, TLT, NFLX propping up the port today
its times like these that i am reminded why i invest in VXUS and TLT.
Ironically I don't even think this is a chatGPT post like all the others. The others have bolded words, questions like "The conclusion?", etc. This one doesn't even have an em-dash, just a regular dash. Plus there's lowercase words like "Safe havens (GLD gold, TLT bonds) if flight to quality", like what sentence is that, chatGPT would never write that
TLT getting pumped when PPI came in hot. Make is make sense.
TLT is up on bad inflation data. The "logic" of this market is the opposite of what it's done most of the past decade
TLT telling the bols to run for the hills. That PP better be good
I have been experimenting with wheeling on companies I want to own. I like companies with reasonable dividends, low valuation, and outside the spotlight of being chased. Anytime I realize enough profit on a company, I use it to buy one share on the house. Until then, I park shares in BIL or SGOV until assignment; otherwise my port is basically "oops, all TLT"
Depends. They'll dump hard if we suddenly pull out of this tailspin and break SPY 700 in theory. Last time we were seeing bond market action like this I think was October/November. On the other hand, who bloody knows if we do have a market correction. Last time, bonds strangely plummeted with everything else. Typically, bonds go up if people flee to safety. TLT is at pretty historic lows though so if they are about to start their trek back up finally the payout is pretty good for a theoretically low risk asset. I tend to just do ibonds and intermediate bond ETFs since long bonds have flown in the face of a low-risk asset in the last several decades.
SGOV is about 3.6% so there are better places to hold money that 3.3%. I also have some cash in VCIT that earns \~4.75%, or TLT earns \~4.65%. There are lots of market options for different time frames...
TLT on a mission... ^(to start a recession)
"Defensives" aren't even defensive at this point. Buying Reits, utilities, consumer staples, and most likely TLT at these prices is basically signing up to lose $$$
1 day of holding SK Hynix will give you better return than TLT will manage for the rest of 2026. Fuck Treasuries and its puny upside until the government acts competent and balances its budget/inflationary pressure.
Check out those TLT calls now. Even though TLT is higher now than last week, the calls are going for 0.59 when they were 0.80. IV on the calls has done nothing but go down since I started my DCA (because of course they have).
It's only been 2 months but let's add another asset that is outperforming both the $SPY and $QQQ YTD despite being trashed here. $SPY + 0.52% $QQQ -(1.43%) $TLT + 3.41%
10 year yield dropping TLT rising Equities dropping
TLT out performing all the indices YTD lol
TLT trying so hard to go green today
10-4 will do. I find it odd that only those of us chasing momentum in non reddit tech names are gonna get burned when you all are still buying the same names that lost momentum are going down daily. $TLT and Gold are my largest holdings. My $EWY holdings are less than my holdings in Deere & Co and Halliburton. People can invest in 2 different sectors at once. I can walk & chew gum at the same time.
The calls are red again today even with TLT green. Looks like the IV on them is just evaporating ever since I started my position of course. TLT I started buying the calls at 0.78 LAST WEEK when TLT was the same price it is now and now the ask is 0.61. Classic. Fuck this nonsense lmao
My TLT short calls are in danger
well TLT give back quit a bit EOD as equities rebound. Honestly we are still range bound and chopping in equity, we didnt really make any significant lows still within range of last weeks lows and 6800 area of resistance for SP500. So i dont think it is the catalyst i was looking for to trigger a big rotation
the shares are looking fine but im getting fucked on the calls. No idea whats happening. Friday TLT went down 0.18 yet the calls went down 0.10 even though its a 0.15 delta. Today TLT went up 0.33 yet the calls only went up 0.02 even though its a 0.15 delta. Expected move of the last 2 trading days is a 0.025 increase in the calls yet they are down 0.07, even though the MOVE index is flat over the 2 days. And its a 7 month expiry so 2 days shouldnt impact time value much. So yeah, no idea why the calls are losing so much value based on the greeks, other than the explanation of its a position of mine so it has to get fucked in some Truman show style attack on my positions -_-
I am mildly surprised that TLT is up today. Thought it would dump when China came back but hey. Took a scratch loss on some puts but the dividend should cover it. I also have a new covered call on Sony. So, let the wheel begin.
Yeah me too. Unfortunately the TLT gains and hedge is covering nothing compared to the eose drill to 0 job
There is a very good possibility you are correct. But I like to hedge my port. $TLT, $PHYS (GOLD) make up roughly 50% of my port. $EWJ, $EWY, $XLU and $IGF make up roughly 25%. Then individual stocks that are non tech make up last 25%. $EWY could be cut in half and it wouldn't really hurt my overall port. South Korea AI stocks are a hedge in case I am wrong about AI and it is the financial game changer that many believe it is. I would just rather buy the non hype non US AI stocks vs US AI over hyped bubble stocks.
TLT and GLD pumping today are we seeing a huge flight to safety 🤔
TBH VGLT/TLT are at pretty historic lows even after that 2.5% or whatever it is pump. And even r/bonds has kind of lost faith in them. Seems like a good counter-sentiment play.
Yes $TLT is my hedge for a recession and Gold is my hedge for inflation & economic expansion.
I'm sleeping pretty soundly with $TLT, GOLD, $EWY, and $EWJ as my largest holdings and a bunch of boring commodity & industrial stocks like $HAL, $MOS, $OXY, $AGCO, $DE, and $CAT to round out my port. It's my belief that the market is replacing the US 10 yr with Gold as the world's reserve currency. This explains gold 2x over the last 2 years and it's continuous bull run higher. The market is also repricing physical cap ex heavy asset stocks higher and repricing low cap ex data/bytes stocks lower. Foreign countries & investors are selling their US Big tech stocks & USD to stimulate their domestic economies whose companies are usually more industrial, manufacturing, and financial Vs US high reliance on Silicon Valley. This explains foreign stocks outperforming the $SPY for over a year now. Investors are also paying a premium for stocks in industries that seem more free from disruption from AI. $CAT and $DE for example aren't likely to be disrupted by AI until AI can plant & harvest crops or build a data center. We had a similar cycle b/w 2002-2012 after the internet infrastructure boom & bust.
You can break that rule if you play your cards like CITADEL and add hedging factor into your wheel strategy.. markets crash bonds increase.. so what does that mean? Cut your profit target 30% hedging it with TLT, VIXY,SH on the down side along with your favored stocks/ETFs on the upper side.
I'm buying TLT you bitches. Bonds have bottomed.
The 3 mo chart on $TLT still looks pretty bullish. The fact that rates didn't spike after that inflation print is pretty good for $TLT holders.
Stick to TLT & ZROZ
I have long dated calls on TLT. TLT is down 0.18 today and my calls are down 0.10 even though they are 0.15 Delta. lmao. Today blows
Sept TLT 100 Calls are down 30% from Tuesday morning when I brought them up and said I was gonna start DCAing into them. TLT got rejected at resistance, and how now gone back and tested 2 seperate untested supports on very high volume. If you want a hedge uncorrelated to SPY/QQQ, seriously look into the long dated TLT Calls. Their VIX ( MOVE INDEX) has dropped a lot the last 3 days and they are super cheap
Look overseas. The rest of the world is going to start running USA type deficits. I mentioned I've been buying $EWJ and $EWY. Europe & Asia have more of an industrial, financial, and manufacturing economy than tech. This is why I believe $DE and $CAT have broken out. It's not just datacenters. Gold is the world reserve currency now, not US 10 yrs. I say this with way too much $TLT in my port.
Why the fuck would TLT dump with tariffs being struck down lol.
There are key levels to watch in the 10 & 30yr. When the US threatened to confiscate Greenland (by force) the 30yr hit 4.95% before pulling back. How to position? Long short term US treasuries like SGOV while reducing exposure/shorting the long end TLT (20 yr).
Any mass damage to TLT through a tail event will hurt stocks a lot more than TLT. Not to mention them being OTM means that my max loss is very minimal.
The default might happen halfway, being caught by stabilization attempts and/or by made up stats and promises/lies. I was hinting at a significant drop in TLT value in case of such an event.
I completely agree there. I haven’t added to $TLT in nearly a year despite loving those monthly 4% dividend payments. All my $TLT dividends have been put into BTD in gold.
If the government wasn’t completely brain dead TLT would be a lot more attractive
If your hypothesis is correct I should be just fine as $TLT is my largest holding along w/ gold. I've only been buying gold, commodity stocks, and Japan $EWJ and South Korea $EWY ETF's for the last couple of months. I love America. But if no one else in the world is buying our stocks, then why should I? Follow the money if you want to make money.
Are you complaining that people are downvoting you for asking me "what happens to your 3% TLT call position if we get a 1917 style Russian Default?" lmao. In this instance, you are just asking dumb questions in bad faith. A US default would cause unprecendented damage to the global financial system it would be impossible to predict other than "everything is fucked".
Random TLT dump om nom nom buying more calls
Wtf just happened with TLT?
recently or lifetime? Very different answers ;) I trimmed a bit last week at 12.25 and have been selling CCs on it on green days. Im up overall 5.3% YTD, which is better than EOSE 3.5%, SPY 0.9% and TLT 3% so as far as im concerned im doing fine.
Then the TLT Call position that I aim to get to ~3% of my portfolio will be a bad bet. But the IV is very low, something like 10th percentile. Bonds are beat up, and the 20Y yield is still 4.5% ish when I am expecting 100-150 bps of cuts this year due to slowing economy and super low inflation, if not deflation. If theres a US default event then id rather lose 100% on a TLT call position thats ~3% of my portfolio than lose >50% on SPY and QQQ lol
[MutaliskGluon](https://www.reddit.com/user/MutaliskGluon/), what if $TLT IV gets lower or stays on par to the current level? Why would you expect a significant event this year? They'll try to keep low in order not to agitate the voters. What if there's a a-la Russia 1917 default event?
2028?? Damn thats far out. Now that I think about it. 2028 and deeper OTM would be arguably a better position if you think bond Vol is gonna increase significantly. Ill have to check out the chains tonight on TLT after the gym.
I bought $ZROZ and then followed it up with $TLT '28 LEAPs last week. Long duration seems like mostly asymmetric upside.
I have the underlying bonds. But the thesis here is bond Vol is severly underpriced. I am selling CCs multiple times a week on my 1000 TLT shares, to collect an extra 0.03 to 0.20 per week. The OTM Calls hedge my hedge (lol) and also are going to print insane profits if a tail event happens. Take a look at TLT monthly candles on tradingview gong back to 2008. Tons of 2-3 month periods of a 15-20% increase in TLT. If one of those happens in the next 9 months oh baby I got a stew going. If not, i still make good money on TLT + distributions + the CCs
This isn’t real fear, just rotation and other shenanigans while 🥭 tries to dig TLT out of the dirt. They think we’re stupid (we are lol)
Linking my comment from this morning If you want to hedge in a position that may also go up even if stocks go up, please seriously consider TLT OTM Calls with a long out expiry. The MOVE (aka VIX for bonds) is very low and if we get a tail event when TLT pumps 20% in 2-3 months (which has happened quite a few times in the past 20 years) these are a 15x minimum https://old.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1r72jfs/rstocks_daily_discussion_technicals_tuesday_feb/o5v72t4/
already have 15 of them and will be adding more throughout the week, while also selling short term CCs on my TLT holdings. I would say BOOMER GANG, except the whole doing options things kinda goes against that mentality
Good idea in theory but the spread and liquidity on those are crap while TLT spreads and liquidity are excellent. Options on anything with low liquidity makes them almost always -EV
Don't do it! I held TLT during two long periods of red, buying when there was fear in other sectors and then the fear ended and TLT melted down. That thing has zero momentum most of the time unless you day trade it especially around early AM news releases, and the big spike everyone anticipated when rates started being cut never came. People have just gotten used to it yielding 4%, it's not longer seen as a huge opportunity
I have 1000 TLT I am selling weekly/daily CCs on to collect premium, and DCAing into a Sept 100C position as I believe Bold Vol is super underpriced and will expand a lot
This might be THE trade of 2026. Super underpriced Vol heading into a potential tail event. Bought them for 0.78 this morning and they are going for 0.83 on the ask even though TLT is the same price. Gonna get more, I think VOL is gonna MOVE on this ;)
Fake TLT pump. New bonds worth more than the old trash.
I thought $TLT was going to work last year before AI saved US stocks. Now $650B on AI cap exp was announced for 2026 among tech giants. I still have my $TLT shares but it has to break above $92. Short term US rates will move lower. 10/20/30 yr US long term rates may not if gold becomes a substitute for cash reserves. I do own both $TLT and Gold so I am positioned for either outcome.
The IV on them was 13.6% or something when I bought them. Insanely low. If we get a deflationairy bust, which is my assumption, the flight to TLT would be insane
There seems to be someone or automation giving at least 1 downvote to everyone in daily threads lately. The TLT play isn’t for me, but I respect the breakdown and the way you structured it (Sep expiration to allow time + the resistance note). Those pieces are similar to how I think about call positions. I hope the move treats you well.
For those of you looking to hedge or to just diversify your portfolio with some things that should be anti correlated to SPY performance. Look into TLT calls. The volatility on long bonds is extremely low right now, and IF we do enter a bear market, or see inflation continue to drop, TLT will likely go up a good amount and calls are likely mispriced. Right now I am looking at TLT Calls for $100 strike for September and they are only 0.77 on the ask. You can make good money if TLT goes up a lot, and you can likely even be profitable if TLT doesnt increase much and the vol goes up on them.
TLT 90+ for the first time in a while
I agree with you, that has been my thesis for the coming year or two. I have been waiting for an entry on $TLT. Was waiting for $86 but current price is close enough, especially for a longer term holding. When did you enter?
TLT back above 90 pre-market. When bonds are outperforming SPY, this bad.
Everyone jelly that TLT is outperforming SPY 😎🥂
It's not too late to salvage your port with TLT call leaps.
TLT up 2% in a month. O yeah its going ballistic alright
TLT ripping. This is great for equities