TWTR

Unusual_Poetry372

Reeeelon wins 🥇! well he did pay a regarded sum of money so maybe not. TWTR 40p 1/24

bemoko

Saw a homeless man eating a sandwich and I was like, that’s it, I’m getting rich so that if I ever end up like him I can at least have a tasty sandwich. In 5 years TWTR is worth $100 billion and I buy it for 20 cents a share. Then I’ll buy back Twitter for billions and ban myself from using it so that poor people like me can still use it. Win win!

_regionrat

I mean, I liked selling my TWTR shares for like double what they were probably actually worth. What's changed with the platform though? I've never actually used it.

BobbyTables91

So TWTR?

Spiritual_Extreme_81

ICBMs trending on TWTR as Word comes in ballon could be powered by radioactive materials 🐮 Keep buying bulls all is well in the world

visionarymind

If TWTR🐣 went offline for a fiscal 🪙, the markets’ll heal 🧸 died today because they listened to a bunch of furus who probably trade the opposite

DaddyLongStrokeeee

Maybe this was all to get Burry to delete his TWTR and now that he’s gone the rug pull will commence?

thesaddestcuck

This fat motherfucker Tom “fat cuck” Lee is super active on TWTR in green days. But you dont hear from him in days on red days. What a fat bitch 

Aarschotdachaubucha

Right? Why does anyone want TSLA shares anyways? Shit doesn't even pay a dividend and you know Elon can't afford buybacks with that TWTR shit on his neck.

Aarschotdachaubucha

Elon selling again. That TWTR interest isn't going to pay itself with their ad revenue.

Classic-Common4873

You're absolutely right! TSLA is inflated, some would say cult like. Regardless, TSLA has done well in the past. In fact prior to TSLA last split, it doing fine (not including it's idiotic purchase of TWTR).

SamRHughes

I don't believe this 1% rule, wherever you heard it, and it is wrong, but there are two reasons for it: 1. You're a noob (or *most* readers of the intro material you've read are dumbasses, even if you aren't), and this'll make you lose money less rapidly. 2. If you have a thin edge on the market, your downside exposure has to be small, relative to portfolio, in order to be Kelly-optimal (to maximize log returns). I'll give you an example of where I think large position sizing, on a directional bet, with huge downside, was a good idea: calls on TWTR, on October 21, expiring the 28th or Nov04, when the stock plunged, and options prices plunged, on fake news that the feds might kill the deal on a national security pretext. If you had the specific understanding that an attempt to do such would only help Elon close a new deal at a much lower price, you knew they wouldn't try this. (Also, there wasn't any sound legal basis -- it was nonsense.) This was not based on vibes or feeling, it was a certainty -- the side that was panic-selling was trading on vibes. For example, one contract I bought was $53 expiring Nov04 for $0.89. This has 33% upside when it gets cash-settled at $1.20. You'd definitely want more than 1% of your portfolio in that. Another situation would be where your trades have low downside, such as if you bought a straddle expiring 10 days out, and you were planning to sell it the next day. If you have a specific reason through statistics to believe this has, say, 10% upside with 15% standard deviation in logarithmic terms, you might put 100% of your portfolio into it. The main risk is that you'd make some trading mistake, or you formed the trade on false information (inaccurate data sources), or some news gets leaked early and IV gets crushed. So even then, 100% is only the mathematically ideal size, not the practically ideal size. ---- As for profit targets, that is generally a bad idea. You'll never get high-upside returns if you cut off the upside. When to exit the position depends -- sometimes you already know it's a specific time, or sometimes it's because on an objective basis, if you entered the position fresh you'd select different strikes. Or sometimes it's because the market has fully absorbed the information you expected it to, and it made its move, and now it's over. For example, suppose you found out about Chia coin and bought some calls in hard drive stocks in April. Then the companies Seagate and WDC had great earnings calls (because of remote work) and the stocks soared. At this point you might sell your calls and take your *lucky* profits, certainly -- and then buy new calls at higher strikes for exposure to a Chia coin rally. A few weeks later, the rally happens. Do you sell right in the middle of the day when the option is +30%? Or do you let the day run out? Why not wait until the next day is over? It's probably not going to un-rally, but it might rally some more (I say with hindsight...). The option's current price, if correctly priced, is the expected value of the price of the option at any future time up until expiration. So why would you be in a hurry to sell? The answer is, if you made massive gains. Suppose a call gapped up from being 1% of your portfolio to 10%, *and* now you think it'll go up a bit more, but not much. Now your expected returns are slightly positive, but your log returns are negative, so the Kelly-optimal choice, between holding and selling, is to sell.... but there are other choices -- if you still want long exposure, maybe you'd roll up to a higher strike price, maintaining the same number of contracts, while locking-in most of your profits. You'd do that instead of exiting entirely, only if you thought the extrinsic value at that strike is underpriced.

evil-poptart

$44B for TWTR. He still $30B in the red.

iTradeStualks

The OC said Elon is selling TSLA shares when he is selling TWTR shares, i’m not even sure what you’re trying to hint at.

iTradeStualks

He’s selling $3b worth of TWTR shares while it’s private, next time read the article instead of just the headline dumbass

Aarschotdachaubucha

TWTR's the female mantis in this relationship.

VentriTV

How can anyone still be a TSLA bill when the CEO bought TWTR just cause he was losing a pissing contest against a teenager. He won though, Elon bought Twitter banned the kids account. Alpha Male. Only cost him 100 billion and another couple hundred billion for his shareholders.

Revolutionary_Lie539

Could be TWTR or FTX stock.

MASH12140

Elon sure knows how to pump a stock. You name it he can do it. $TWTR, Doge, Tesla. 

Bottom_Wobbles

TSLA bought TWTR bonds.

lordbell21

He has a lot of followers on TWTR, so he's loved and popular

Aarschotdachaubucha

This is now the TWTR earnings call. Elon is sending the plates around for your humble donations, which will pay for the new stained glass windows in the western nave.

value1024

I'm alright, watching the fireworks, not as crazy a I thought, but we will see. Waiting for Kanye Musk to talk about Mars and fucking robots, for the stock to crash. I hope someone asks him if he plans on selling TSLA to finance TWTR, and the sex robot production.

Nice_Guy_Nucky

My colleague Stacy who is a hot blonde can be a fucking bitch sometimes... Fucking calling me out in public about my work... You don't see me calling her out about her selfies on TWTR

Spiritual_Extreme_81

Lol stupid bull They’re all in 5800 Spx on TWTR Keep loading 3850 puts

MMDRE96

TWTR 2.0

Spiritual_Extreme_81

TWTR bears literally wishing for Putin scorched earth on Kiev this weekend

ninkorn

CNBC wont say but Musk shed 80% of TWTR employees since he took over

ninkorn

>TWTR is now down to 550\~ full time engineers Still too many imo 🤔

patrickswayzemullet

isn't this similar to when Elon announces TWTR? The option chain immediately reflects/prices in such strike. Is this hypothetical or is there a company you are actually thinking about? Other people might be able to help you assess risks.

floppy_panoos

Muskrat sweating over the TWTR interest payments, meanwhile US debt is paying $475 Billion in interest alone. That's half of our military budget...

This_Professor8379

I object, TWTR is still publicly traded - TSLA pretty much is a synthetic, asymmetrical levered proxy short derivative on TWTR. If TWTR is doing badly enough, Elon Musk is gonna have another meltdown and start tweeting random BS that's gonna send TSLA to spiral which will cause Elon to go even more ape shit crazy causing a further meltdown. If TWTR is doing super well, Elon Musks balls will swell IP so much it'll cause a series testosterone fueled narcissistic tweets resulting in Bad press for TSLA. The only way this can go tits up is if TSLA does deliver stellar Q4 numbers AND TWTR is doing well enough..

TekkDub

$TWTR. Bought at $38 and then sold to Elon for $54.20. Funding secured.

wavegeekman

One suspects this may be one reason he bought TWTR - owning media gives you a "seat at the table".

ColonelSassy

!p TWTR

Space_Meth_Monkey

Bro this guy is talking literal nonsense/speculation There is a remote possibility that he did that but I think it’s unlikely unlike everyone in this thread lmao What people are describing would be difficult to do in RuneScape, let alone the markets and in the way they lay it out. Whatever bs Elon does to raise his stock price and then sell his shares would be a matter of public record. Say he uses bots to push Tesla somehow, all that shit still exists. Then he needs to file some shit with the SEC before he sells anything. I don’t think elon will take more of his personal wealth and invest it into TWTR. If he did that, it would obviously cost him and raise his stake in the company. I don’t think he wants to retain ownership like he does with spacex because he wouldn’t have given so much up to begin with. Prolly makes sense to dilute everyone further and get another round of investors, not sure what the mechanics of that is in such a large private company

magiclampgenie

I started in 1979 and have never ever sold a stock. I have stopped buying e.g. "bad/underperforming stocks", but neer actually sold any stocks. I'm just a hoarder...just in case of a rainy day. ​ PS. Of course, take for example TWTR. I didn't sell it, they forced sold it for me :)

thekeanu

Homegrown variation from this very sub a few years ago: 19 year old guy borrows 100k and puts it on TWTR earnings and doubles his money. Next day he puts 200k on FB earnings and loses it all.

royalirrigation50

I need my TSLA calls to pump so I can dump my TWTR calls. If they both tank I'm screwed because I have YTEA calls.

renato4803

I’m all in TSLA and TWTR and both stocks are down 40% !

Aarschotdachaubucha

Feels bad for ARKK and TSLA. No reason for Fed to pause in next 6 months means more Elon interest payments for TWTR.

SPAC-ey-McSpacface

Overheard on TWTR: >*my client is in contract for her first home, it’s 3/2 in the Bay Area at $855,000 (low scores, 5.95% 30 YR fixed rate).* *OPEN bought it in Nov ‘22 for $1,037,000*.

Aarschotdachaubucha

That cash isn't in his bank. It went to a mix of taxes, TWTR and settlements for sexually abusing his executive assistants while calling people pedophiles on the Internet.

briballdo

He also probably used that to buy TWTR lmfao

Aarschotdachaubucha

Depends on if Elon needs to make another interest payment for TWTR

WholesaleBacon

I miss shorting TWTR 

Teeheeleelee

Correct the title please. It should be "Just another car company where the CEO is MIA on TWTR"

JojenCopyPaste

It wasn't a switch, it didn't happen all at once. Some of us started hating him after he called that cave diver a pedo. Some after he kept pump and dumping crypto. People have been slowly getting more down on him for several years. Buying TWTR was a big catalyst though.

aMovieSnob

Deleted SNAP and TWTR because I'm addicted to my phone and it's been great. Still ride Insta and Reddit. Realizing you don't have to cold turkey to manage an addiction.

Teeheeleelee

Elon and Cathie sucking one another on TWTR

zxc123zxc123

Me. I had like >$20K in short term gains from selling puts and trading. One put option on SNAP gone bad leading to a -$20K unrealized losses on SNAP stock. Mix that with my normal income. Dividends. And Elon buying out all my TWTR for like >$35K gains? Meant IRS was going to have a fun time with me. So I bought some SNAP early and sold near the end of the year to realize some ST losses to offset my ST gains. Will add for OP that markets stay irrational. Employees getting stock options are selling, early investors of SPACs/IPOs who got their shares at $0.05 don't care if the stock is $100 or $30, and short sellers can short stocks to stupid percentages (even that video game retailer we can't mention without getting censored).

Call__It__Karma

YouTube needs competition and it's perfect for Elon to buy or merge with TWTR as part of his do everything platform idea.

therealnorthwild

TSLA is in free fall. Valuation is still too high. Story is broken now. Musk is a distracted CEO who spends his time on TWTR getting cozy with hard right (who hate EV's) and antagonizing the people who are actually purchasing his vehicles. Great marketing strategy.

monopixel

>Has anyone read Elon Musk's contract for the $12.5B debt he incurred to purchase TWTR? No you are the first person in the history of mankind who read that part of the contract.

_TechnocratiK_

Perhaps as an administrator of a social media platform, but that's not his whole invested self. His personal brand as an entrepreneur, above-and-beyond his failings at TWTR, plays heavily into the perceived profitability of SpaceX and Tesla. I'm not saying he's a "genius," but I think a lot of investors would like to see a return to what he's proven good at.

_TechnocratiK_

Mr. Musk made that tweet August 7, 2018, when TSLA had a market capitalization of roughly \~$60B, whereas today it's at $346B. So it's actually up over 470% accounting for stock splits and buy-backs. I'll agree that Mr. Musk isn't stupid when it comes to his entrepreneurship, and I highly doubt that he would be so callous as to put up so many of his TSLA shares as collateral for his TWTR buyout. He may not be savvy to the administration of a social media company, but given his demonstrable ability to make himself wealthy, I am highly doubtful (hopeful?) that he would have financed his TWTR acquisition differently than what I proposed in my simulation. I simply meant to point out that, were he somewhat reckless in bringing to a close the Delaware Chancery Court case he faced, his margin situation could be tighter than investors might otherwise imagine. I'm not trolling, I'm just putting up for offer a scenario.

sumtastic

It is because Elon started valuing the TSLA in Doge but he values AAPL and Aramco in TWTR spend.

Jayce_Tallis

Put your money in these companies(TSLA) and leave it alone. You’ll make money over time. TWTR, AMC, WIMI

BSchafer

Well, he said he's be last out before his stock shot up to ridiculous valuations and the public/media started attacking him for not paying taxes because he hadn't been realizing his gains (selling stock). Due to the public pressure and an upcoming $15 billion tax bill (occurred by the crazy gains made on 2012 stock options) he held a poll asking the public if he should sell off 10% of the company or not - the majority wanted him to sell off his positions. Not to mention Elon is obviously not an idiot, he knew it was a good time to take profits - he even publicly said, TSLA was overvalued several times and it was a good time to take profits on tech. The twitter deal, which was really stupid on Elon's part, also forced him to sell a lot. When it was revealed he would have a hard time getting out of the contract I started shorting TSLA (just finished closing my positions yesterday for a 160% gain). It was pretty obvious that buying TWTR would turn Elon into public enemy #1 for the mainstream media and online warriors. I just think its funny that everyone used to get mad at him for not selling his equity in TSLA and now many are salty that he did. Now that most of WSB is finally starting to hop on the TSLA bearish train, I think it might be a good time to go long, lol. I can't imagine the stock dipping much below $100. A lot of big buyers will come if starts dropping that low. Also, there is a decent chance the stock will pop 10-20% when he announces the new Twitter CEO (which should be fairly soon). Plus, everyone knows our wives' bf's always inverse WSB.

stkwit

Doug Kass has a great take on this sector. You can find him on TWTR. It’s not a positive one. Most of my trades in the sector have all gone up in smoke.

PregnantPickle_

At least I didn’t buy TWTR

roberrrrt11

Jerome Powell probably shorting TSLA right now. IMO META looks like a buy. Wall Streets assuming all advertisers will move off TWTR because of Elon. Seems to be breaking out too. Tesla will recover, but it’ll take a few years. Wall Street shorting the shit out of it with puts right now

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Alepman

Owning $TWTR costs Elon $TSLA

obiwanjustblowme

God damn it. I picked the worst short to concentrate into: NFLX. Still think it pays off big eventually. Do have FOMO on TSLA though mainly for the clout. Shorted it from 350 to 160 and have been boxed out since. Even had most of the thesis built around TWTR distraction pissing off main baggies. Genuinely just expected more strength. Weird AF seeing the gamma squeezers disappear overnight. Great lesson though in sentiment.

Metacog_Drivel

And to think TWTR would likely be in the teens if Musk didn't buy it. What a savvy businessman. 

obiwanjustblowme

God damn it. I picked the worst short to concentrate into: NFLX. Still think it pays off big eventually. Do have FOMO on TSLA though mainly for the clout. Shorted it from 350 to 160 and have been boxed out since. Even had most of the thesis built around TWTR distraction pissing off main baggies. Genuinely just expected more strength. Weird AF seeing the gamma squeezers disappear overnight. Great lesson though in sentiment.

SaintBiggusDickus

Elon dumping TSLA stock to pay for Toilet Paper at TWTR HQ

asdf1151

What's the direct relationship between the TSLA stock price and TWTR? Is there a certain price where Elon will be forced to sell?

-bjorn

Xi Jin**pig** 🐖 is totally skimming TSLA and TWTR with Musky. 👀

Aarschotdachaubucha

Elon still has a few hours to stop saying the N-word on TWTR. There's hope for TSLA bulls yet.

Liquid_Skeet

Elon selling more TSLA shares so he can buy more TWTR and save TWTR from potential sell off

Future_Ad_2632_

[A] So firstly, we are now literally correcting and all of these stocks who have been not based on fundamentals are getting slaughtered (and will continue to do so for the coming future). Your argument that "fundamentals don't matter" is literally being proven wrong right now, as we speak. Every single "meme" ticker/coin is going down. And btw, not sure why you listed AMZN in the meme bunch? Also, TWTR is already gone private and their shareholders got paid a nice amount per share already (unlike GME baggies). TSLA is still overvalued, but at least it's an *actual* company at the forefront of selling EVs. GME is just a dying brick and mortar store that's burning cash like no tomorrow. And even if the rally happens, I can guarantee you this: GME is not going anywhere close to its ATH or even half of that, let alone the "phone number prices" you all love to tout. [B] Okay, trying to exposed the fraud or whatever is a different thing. It has no bearing on GME. This is like when morons on soup and sock were saying the russia-ukraine war is being done to prevent MOASS, lmao.

ERhyne

Lol dude imagine thinking that your attitude helps your case. Anyways your link was deleted but I found it, some interesting stuff but IMHO most of the arguments seem to come down to fundamentals when we've already spent the past ten years proving fundamentals mean little in the current market (AMZN, TSLA, TWTR). *This is the type of capitulation is kinda happening in the tech sector but I wouldnt be surprised to see another rally as the fed try to reign in the rates and try to keep them stagnant for a quarter or two. Then probably another dig.* They also never address the obvious conflicts of interest nin regards to the infrastructure of our current market. Apparently trying to expose the market for the fraud it is is bad and conspiratorial? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds when the average person will generally admit that high-level financed is leveraged towards the house. If anything, public sentiment holds more power than it realizes.

Liquid_Skeet

Elon wanted TSLA to crater.... So he can start a new poll.... Should I Focus 100% On TWTR Now?

Liquid_Skeet

Elon going to sell more TSLA shares this week to buy TWTR shares

Liquid_Skeet

70% drop was due to Elon selling and buying TWTR

Liquid_Skeet

I guess Elon should've focused more on making TSLA great as opposed to fucking around with TWTR and Hunter's dick pics

connor_fleming2

Torn between $PARA & $TWTR

Liquid_Skeet

TWTR getting sued in SF for being deadbeat tenants... Imagine TWTR filing for Section 8

Liquid_Skeet

Grimes launching OnlyFans with Kimbal to raise 💵 for TWTR

Liquid_Skeet

Elon getting ready to sell TSLA shares so he can buy more TWTR and support Grimes' acting and music career

Eienkei

Musk's entire career has been about pump & dump (from before TSLA to fake internet money). I was posting on reddit about him being a fraud for years! TWTR purchase was a pump & dump gone wrong, the moment the idiot submitted his purchase agreement & the market started going downhill I knew his ass is finally trapped!

ichbinsisyphos

Let's put it this way: Elong staged a theater play all year long in order to pull 50 billion out to put into his new safe haven TWTR.

Eienkei

The original post which happened exactly as I described: "Enron Musk is about to look like a hog at a slaughterhouse. He not only waived his due diligence rights, he has signed a binding agreement with no out clause! Short term TWTR puts, long term Tesla puts/Twitter calls." https://web.archive.org/web/20220712094006/https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/vumtlj/enron_is_about_to_pay_all_44_billion/ https://www.reveddit.com/v/wallstreetbets/comments/vumtlj/

Aarschotdachaubucha

I see you and Elon share a horse fetish. He might be hiring for a new TWTR executive assistant.

Eienkei

Back in July: Short term TWTR puts, long term Tesla puts/Twitter calls. Cashed it all out.

Eienkei

My DD post from July: "Enron Musk is about to look like a hog at a slaughterhouse. He not only waived his due diligence rights, he has signed a binding agreement with no out clause! Short term TWTR puts, long term Tesla puts/Twitter calls." https://web.archive.org/web/20220712094006/https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/vumtlj/enron_is_about_to_pay_all_44_billion/

Eienkei

This was the plan as described in my DD: "Enron Musk is about to look like a hog at a slaughterhouse. He not only waived his due diligence rights, he has signed a binding agreement with no out clause! Short term TWTR puts, long term Tesla puts/Twitter calls."

ninkorn

Bruh, TWTR employees gotta bring their own toilet paper because Musk fired the janitors. [The office stinks](https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/twitter-san-francisco-offices-stink-17685635.php) from body odors and leftover food and shit 🤡🤡🤡🤡

ruoaayn

I learned the hard way buying TWTR puts a few years ago. For some reason it missed earnings big time and still went up because of good guidance.

Liquid_Skeet

If TSLA beats delivery numbers.... Elon selling $15 billion of TSLA shares to buy more TWTR

Apprehensive-Lab-674

Well Twitter hadn't really been doing much compared to Google to be fair. And Google has been very profitable for many years now unlike TWTR. Also it's way to early to tell whether this is true: \> obvious lack of effect ​ Also Musk offloaded a massive amount of debt to Twitter, interest on which alone would be enough to pay for 1000-2000 employees per year. Would you rather have 1500 extra people or 14 billion of debt + Musk in extra liabilities?

RhettOracle

Some would say the same about TWTR until the recent revelations about the company environment, bias in hiring, and the obvious lack of effect on operations that firing more than half the work force had.

Liquid_Skeet

Is Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag still on TWTR?

Liquid_Skeet

Elon telling TSLA workers not too worry... He's letting them know he's got more shares to sell... But he's doing it all for TWTR and Hunter's dick pics

BigMoneyBiscuits

You realize TWTR IPO'd for 300-400 a share adjusted for inflation and shares outstanding, right?

the_ultimate_mcbob

This logic 12 months ago was ridiculed… now look where we are. I wouldn’t touch TSLA until there was some semblance of a plan for Elon actually returning to run the company for most of the work week. But for that he has to arrest the fall of TWTR which he may need to sell more TSLA stock in order to recapitalize. It’s untouchable for any rational investor in my opinion

The_DaHowie

I don't know whether that was intentional or not considering Twitter tanking as well. I'm sure many of his fan bois dumped TSLA for TWTR and are now feeling doubly sandy in the nether region

forcedaspiration

Quick, Puts on TWTR.... Oh wait.