VOC

audiowave_io

Those VOC's are finally showing the effects. Time for OSHA to update standards.

Fabafaba

Yeah there were worse, cough cough EIC, VOC etc.

Admiral_de_Ruyter

Yes just look at the Dutch VOC. Still one of the most valuable companies ever.

Cynical_Doggie

The VOC but for the galaxy in theory. So much land and resources to plunder.

InvisibleEar

Thank you google AI, when I searched Dutch East India stock what I wanted to see was an explanation that VOC cannot be traded because it dissolved in 1799. Definitely should be spending more on data centers

NoSoundNoFury

> the moon is Cape Town, and space mining is the spice trade Not really. VOC profited from colonizing and a de-facto state monopoly. Space is rather critical infrastructure, like bridges, harbors, airports, telecommunication networks. As infrastructure, it's profitable, but not immensely profitable (think Broadcom rather than VOC), but because it's *critical* infrastructure, you have governmental money and guarantees involved. Rockets are also fancier and sexier than bridges and telecom masts.

Ok_Macaroon6934

There are different answers in different horizons. In 1652, the Dutch East India Company (VOC) invested over 25,000 guilders in the expedition to set up Cape Town as a strategic resupply post. It then cost them about 100,000 guilders a year to keep it garrisoned, supply-ready etc. They knew that it was a long term investment that would ultimately pay off, putting the VOC into the dominant spot in the spice trade. For space, in the short-medium term, there are revenue steams in space-based communications, research support, military dual use tech and establishing speculative claims to space-based rights. In the long term, the moon is Cape Town, and space mining is the spice trade. It will be so profitable that there will not be a break in the trajectory towards it any more than trading companies would have given up on the possibilities of a better route to the Spice Islands.

Sunkettle

I only have a broad undestanding of economics because it's something I enjoy learning about. I do understand that the Fed can buy treasuries on the market, and how they can set the overnight rate. I hadn't formally heard of the corridor system, but after reading about it, it makes sense. I knew the fed kept an ever expanding balance sheet to prevent another 2008 recession, but I wasn't aware it was a shift in the approach of the Fed. The increased government involvement in financial intermediation, and the expectation of abundant reserves are certaintly problems. However, one of the articles you linked pointed out: **"In other words, there likely won’t be a shortage of buyers of notes and bonds even if the basis trade were to unwind, foreign officials were to continue to refrain from buying, and/or the Fed were to refrain from additional QE. The issue is, at what price/interest rate? Could long-term interest rates go much higher if one or more of these things were to happen? Yes. And what would happen in that case? Borrowing costs for consumers and businesses would go up, a lot."** I can't see the Fed allowing yield rates and interest rates to go up too much higher, but I do think there's still more room. It was worse the 80s-2000s, and we made it through that. I don't disagree with you, we do need to make changes. The government could also use auesterity measures if the situation is rough, but those can backfire and result in an economic recission if not handled correctly. We should enjoy the benefits of a booming stock market and growing economy, while electing politicians that will steer is in a better direction. Our Net Int/Rev is higher than in the past couple of decades, but the cost to service that debt is still lower than it was in the 80s-90s, interest rates are still lower than the 80s-90s, and net overlays as a percent of GDP aren't too much higher than our historical average. Again, I don't disagree, we need to curb spending, but there's still some room before we fall into hyperinflation to pay our debt. Our situation is different from the Dutch Guilder because we have a currency that isn't backed by silver, our economy is productive and growing YoY, we aren't reliant on a massive overleveraged company (VOC) for productivity, and we aren't at risk of being conquered by a neighboring country. Maybe the story will be different in a couple of decades? I also personally wouldn't consider the Denarius a reserve currency. I would say the only reserve currenices have been the Guilder, Pound, and USD. I don't think anyone else would say we're not credible unless they're overly pessimistic about the economy. I can't find any information from reputable sources that would suggest we aren't credible.

Joohansson

Had to look that up and yes, it's correct. The first publicly traded stock came from **VOC** (*Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie*, or Dutch East India Company), a massive chartered megacorporation founded in the Netherlands 1602. Granted monopoly to carry out trade activities in Asia.

rndname

The Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, or VOC) went bankrupt and was dissolved in 1799

Vegetable_Review4967

The biggest IPO was the Dutch VOC

Nice-Truck8806

This is a delicate stage in the garloid life cycle, and the timing of a tussic fever—even a minor one—couldn't be worse given your HOA situation. Since you’re only a few weeks out from the first lactation, the garloid's hormonal profile is peaking, which is likely why its immune system is throwing off those false-positive TB markers (the "pseudo-tuberculin" shedding). Here is a breakdown of how to manage the biological risk and the HOA scrutiny simultaneously: Neutralize the Aerosolized Markers The reason neighbors might test positive for TB is that a garloid with tussic fever sheds specific volatile proteins through its blow-pores. To prevent "passive TST positives" in your building: HEPA and Carbon Filtration: Standard air purifiers aren't enough. You need a medical-grade HEPA filter with a dedicated VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) stage. Place it directly next to the tank's ventilation. Bromine Scrubbers: If your garloid is in a saltwater or high-mineral brine setup, slightly increasing the bromine levels (within safe limits for the creature) can help denature the shedding proteins before they break the water's surface. The "Vick’s" Trick: Many keepers apply a thin layer of pharmaceutical-grade lanolin or a specialized aquatic balm to the garloid's upper mantle. This traps the "tussic mist" before it can be expelled. Handling the HOA "Aquatic Clause" If your HOA has strict aquatic rules, they are likely looking for three things: water weight, noise from pumps, and humidity damage. Dehumidify: Tussic fever causes increased evaporation from the garloid's skin. A silent dehumidifier is essential to prevent wall-sweat, which is a dead giveaway to inspectors. Vibration Dampening: If your garloid is agitated by the fever, it might start "thrumming." Place a thick rubber gym mat under the tank to kill the low-frequency vibrations that travel through the floor to the unit below. The "Terrarium" Defense: If caught, claim it is a high-end bioactive terrarium for rare mosses or orchids. HOAs are usually more lenient with plants than "livestock." Managing the Tussic Fever Since you're close to lactation, you want to clear the fever without triggering a "sour-milk" reaction or a premature molt. Temperature Modulation: Drop the water temperature by exactly 1.5 degrees Celsius over a 48-hour period. This often triggers the garloid’s natural cooling reflex, which can "break" a tussic fever. Blue-Light Therapy: Switching your tank lights to a deep actinic blue (420nm) for 18 hours a day has been shown to soothe the mantle and reduce the coughing reflex. Avoid Antibiotics: Do not use standard fish or reptile antibiotics. They can interfere with the lactation enzymes, resulting in a thin, bitter yield that is basically useless. Personal Cover Story If you or a neighbor ends up getting a TB test for work or travel and it comes back positive: The BCG Vaccine Defense: Claim you received the BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) vaccine as a child or while traveling abroad. It is a common cause of false-positive TST results and usually satisfies HR departments or health officials without further investigation. Request a QuantiFERON-TB Gold test: This is a blood test, not a skin test. Garloid-shed proteins almost never trigger the blood-based interferon-gamma release, whereas they always trigger the skin-based TST. Warning: Whatever you do, do not let the HOA see the garloid during its "pre-milk" swell. To an untrained eye, a lactating garloid looks like a plumbing disaster or an environmental hazard. Keep the tank shrouded with a heavy "insulation cover" (tell them it's to save on electricity). Stay vigilant—the first lactation is worth the stress!

Nice-Truck8806

This is a delicate stage in the garloid life cycle, and the timing of a tussic fever—even a minor one—couldn't be worse given your HOA situation. Since you’re only a few weeks out from the first lactation, the garloid's hormonal profile is peaking, which is likely why its immune system is throwing off those false-positive TB markers (the "pseudo-tuberculin" shedding). Here is a breakdown of how to manage the biological risk and the HOA scrutiny simultaneously: 1. Neutralize the Aerosolized Markers The reason neighbors might test positive for TB is that a garloid with tussic fever sheds specific volatile proteins through its blow-pores. To prevent "passive TST positives" in your building: HEPA and Carbon Filtration: Standard air purifiers aren't enough. You need a medical-grade HEPA filter with a dedicated VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) stage. Place it directly next to the tank's ventilation. Bromine Scrubbers: If your garloid is in a saltwater or high-mineral brine setup, slightly increasing the bromine levels (within safe limits for the creature) can help denature the shedding proteins before they break the water's surface. The "Vick’s" Trick: Many keepers apply a thin layer of pharmaceutical-grade lanolin or a specialized aquatic balm to the garloid's upper mantle. This traps the "tussic mist" before it can be expelled. 2. Handling the HOA "Aquatic Clause" If your HOA has strict aquatic rules, they are likely looking for three things: water weight, noise from pumps, and humidity damage. Dehumidify: Tussic fever causes increased evaporation from the garloid's skin. A silent dehumidifier is essential to prevent wall-sweat, which is a dead giveaway to inspectors. Vibration Dampening: If your garloid is agitated by the fever, it might start "thrumming." Place a thick rubber gym mat under the tank to kill the low-frequency vibrations that travel through the floor to the unit below. The "Terrarium" Defense: If caught, claim it is a high-end bioactive terrarium for rare mosses or orchids. HOAs are usually more lenient with plants than "livestock." 3. Managing the Tussic Fever Since you're close to lactation, you want to clear the fever without triggering a "sour-milk" reaction or a premature molt. Temperature Modulation: Drop the water temperature by exactly 1.5 degrees Celsius over a 48-hour period. This often triggers the garloid’s natural cooling reflex, which can "break" a tussic fever. Blue-Light Therapy: Switching your tank lights to a deep actinic blue (420nm) for 18 hours a day has been shown to soothe the mantle and reduce the coughing reflex. Avoid Antibiotics: Do not use standard fish or reptile antibiotics. They can interfere with the lactation enzymes, resulting in a thin, bitter yield that is basically useless. 4. Personal Cover Story If you or a neighbor ends up getting a TB test for work or travel and it comes back positive: The BCG Vaccine Defense: Claim you received the BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) vaccine as a child or while traveling abroad. It is a common cause of false-positive TST results and usually satisfies HR departments or health officials without further investigation. Request a QuantiFERON-TB Gold test: This is a blood test, not a skin test. Garloid-shed proteins almost never trigger the blood-based interferon-gamma release, whereas they always trigger the skin-based TST. Warning: Whatever you do, do not let the HOA see the garloid during its "pre-milk" swell. To an untrained eye, a lactating garloid looks like a plumbing disaster or an environmental hazard. Keep the tank shrouded with a heavy "insulation cover" (tell them it's to save on electricity). Stay vigilant—the first lactation is worth the stress!

TracyM45

Puts on VOC's

Mavnas

The 1600s? Maybe earlier, maybe later, since I think the people the Dutch VOC weren't companies in the early days. Definitely by the 1700s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chinsurah

julian_jakobi

1. Clyra co‑branded launch with a $100B+ global medtech “gorilla,” putting Clyra products into a scaled, existing sales and reimbursement machine. 2. Clyra revenue ramp toward a potential 9‑figure business, with dedicated funding, multiple wound‑care SKUs, and international expansion baked into the plan. 3. First commercial AEC municipal PFAS installation going live, doubling as a high‑visibility, regulator‑relevant pilot with BioLargo engineers on site. 4. Cellinity battery MOUs converting into full joint‑venture factory contracts, enabling “sell factories, not batteries” revenue in the hundreds of millions over time. 5. New odor/VOC control partners building on the Pooph success, opening additional consumer and industrial channels with minimal new R&D burden. 6. AOS/AEC - the best PFAS remediation techgetting embedded in large water‑tech partners’ channels, driving multi‑site, multi‑year treatment contracts instead of one‑off pilots. 7. Operating leverage plus strategic options (Clyra spin/IPO, Cellinity JV monetization, potential uplist) as multiple verticals hit inflection at roughly the same time. I will be invested until the whole success story will have unfolded. Below 20x would be a disappointment. A 4-5x jump by next year isn’t just possible - it’s feeling more likely than ever based on underlying value and the upcoming catalysts.

thebluepin

will it beat the VOC and the Dutch stockmarket? i doubt it. that had to be like 99% of the stockmarket by value

Upbeat_Help_7924

- Dutch East India Company $VOC - Zoom out 200 year chart shits been consolidating forever bound to breakout - hmm they trade nutmeg? - Nutmeg will be in high demand for Thanksgiving - 2026 OTM calls looking juicy only $0.01 per con - ai and nuclear meta over - new meta will be Sovereign State as a Service (SSaS) stocks

Upbeat_Help_7924

> Dutch East India Company $VOC > Zoom out 200 year chart shits been consolidating forever bound to breakout > hmm they trade nutmeg? > Nutmeg will be in high demand for Thanksgiving > short squeeze imminent obviously > 2026 OTM calls looking juicy

Joink17

In 1637, the Dutch company VOC had a value of around 7 trillion dollars. So yes, Nvidia is right now the only company that is worth over 5 trillion, but in history? No

DizzyMajor5

Tarrifs government supported business? Welcome back merchantalism. Intel you're slowly going to be turned into the VOC. 

marths90

Is the Dutch East India Company still around? No? Okay, you're wrong then. International company of the 1600s, estimated value in today's dollars of $8.28 trillion. No company is everlasting. Modern doesn't mean shit, and you're being ignorant as hell. VOC was leagues ahead of any modern company.

Married-and-dating

A little bit more about how it works (got from Grok) They use Micro-Electro-Mechanical Systems (MEMS) gas sensors to detect volatile organic compounds (VOCs) in the air. Each VOC produces a unique chemical signature based on its molecular composition. MEMS sensors are low-cost, energy-efficient, and scalable Then they apply a Smell Language Model (SLM), which is an AI-driven model that processes raw sensor data to create a digital representation of smells, referred to as a “Smell ID.” This is analogous to how large language models (LLMs) process text or vision models process images. Mechanism: The MEMS sensors capture VOC patterns, generating analog signals that represent the chemical composition of a smell. These signals are converted into digital data, which the SLM analyzes using machine learning algorithms trained on extensive VOC datasets. The SLM identifies and categorizes smells by comparing sensor data to a library of known VOC signatures, creating a unique Smell ID for each scent. The Smell ID can be used for real-time monitoring, diagnostics, or automation tasks, such as identifying defects in manufacturing or detecting health conditions. The SLM mimics the human olfactory system, which uses receptors to detect odors and the brain to interpret them. However, the SLM can process thousands of VOCs with greater precision and without fatigue, surpassing human capabilities.

Married-and-dating

Here's something from Grok: Micro-Electro-Mechanical Systems (MEMS) gas sensors to detect volatile organic compounds (VOCs) in the air. Each VOC produces a unique chemical signature based on its molecular composition. MEMS sensors are low-cost, energy-efficient, and scalable Smell Language Model (SLM) is an AI-driven model that processes raw sensor data to create a digital representation of smells, referred to as a “Smell ID.” This is analogous to how large language models (LLMs) process text or vision models process images. Mechanism: The MEMS sensors capture VOC patterns, generating analog signals that represent the chemical composition of a smell. These signals are converted into digital data, which the SLM analyzes using machine learning algorithms trained on extensive VOC datasets. The SLM identifies and categorizes smells by comparing sensor data to a library of known VOC signatures, creating a unique Smell ID for each scent. The Smell ID can be used for real-time monitoring, diagnostics, or automation tasks, such as identifying defects in manufacturing or detecting health conditions. The SLM mimics the human olfactory system, which uses receptors to detect odors and the brain to interpret them. However, the SLM can process thousands of VOCs with greater precision and without fatigue, surpassing human capabilities.

philippeeeee

Wrong. The Dutch East India Company (VOC) was worth almost double…

Bombacladman

*Laughs in VOC "dutch east india trading company"* Those guys hit 7.8 trillion 2 centuries ago. 4 trillion are rookie numbers

Green-Goblin

Fake news VOC ( Dutch east India company) hit 7.9 trillion in the 17th century

DaRipster1515

I have JEPQ and BITO. I'll ride BITO out until it stops paying. IEP, VOC QQQI, NLY are other choices

Careful-Series-3849

Looks like they are averaging about 10% @ year over the past 10years. maybe even a little higher - So basically your net worth and age determines if its a great move. It do seems to have a 20% Corrections aver so often - maybe every two years. Question is did the blip this year count if not it may be two good years coming. How does it compare to QQQ or maybe some good Positive growth 8% Dividend stock sadly I like the higher 20% Dividend Losing value Stock. in 5yrs VTI & QQQ faired about the same doubled in 5 years, thats more than 12%??? but in the past 5years QQQ have out performed VTI by a lot. vti (105 - 305) QQQ (100 -550) So Looks like timing is everything. and is your Long term 5yrs or 10yrs. cause you gonna get a 20% Correction and almost no Dividends to show Ive had $ET for a long time . . 10yrs chart is pitiful, but the 5 year chart is awesome I almost sold it and yep it dropped $3 from its high. Adding price growth dividend growth gives you a lot of security. $ET Yield has dropped to $7.5% because of its rise in Price so I'm thinking when I first start buying it it was paying 15% or higher. so in the past 5year the shares have doubled and the price have gone from (5.5 to 19) thats gotta be a better record than the index funds. Now on the other hand I have chased a lot of %20 Dividend stocks knowing the price will plummeth. OXLC, ARR, VOC, and probably 20 others. Just bought a liltle more of VOC But $OXLC have paid %20 for the past 3 years. price have went from $8 to $4.25 but over 5 or 10 years price wise you would be about even. but one time it was over $15 Again Timing is everything of course If one was a genuis they would sold near $12. but most probably was buying. thinking it was going to the moon. Now at $4 I'm Praying it gets back over 5. cause every 3 years my shares double. I feel if it holds close o 5 there will not be a reverse split or dividend reduction. I bought the bulk at $7.70 thinking it was going to the moon. added a little at $5.25 and some more at $5 think this has been since 2020 I'm 65 so its gonna be about time to collect the cash instead of re-invest. Age and timing we usually get both of those wrong (well I did) But $ET & $OXCL are bright lights. $ARR just now turning around but over 5 / 10years huge looser in price Bottom line VTI & QQQ chart looks about the same over a 10+year Period. Do you have the time to ride for another 10 years, then buy and hold, but a few 20% corrections coming

superkakakarrotcake

How about the VOC?

DipSniper69

VOC VOC VOC

Mondkohl

Retail always buys meme stocks. Even my grandad invested in meme stocks, before the internet. His grandad probably did too. Folks been meme investing since VOC stood for Dutch East India Company. The dot com bubble wasn’t even that long ago in the grand scheme, and people were investing in basically anything you could connect dialup to. It definitely adds some noise and distortion to the mix but I don’t think it’s a new phenomenon. The barriers to entry are definitely lower than they have been historically, which does seem to be amplifying the effect they have overall on the market. On the end of every trade is a winner and a loser though, and people selling for dumb reasons makes it easier to buy for good ones. I don’t think the stock market has experienced the full ramifications of the last few months just yet, but it’s unlikely to effect every company equally, and this new crop of meme investors will probably have traded all their savings away long before then.

TheBelgianGovernment

No company is too big to fail. The Medici bank failed The VOC failed Texaco failed Enron failed. RBS failed Lehman failed AIG failed

Illustrious-Smoke509

The Dutch established the world's first stock exchange, the Amsterdam Exchange, in 1602. This institution enabled trading in shares of public companies, such as the Dutch East India Company (VOC) and the Dutch West India Company (WIC). These companies played a crucial role in the development of international trade and finance. Through the WIC, the Dutch established colonies in the Caribbean and South America, such as New Netherland (present-day New York)

1978CR250

VOC – Dutch East India Company (Historical) Full name: Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (Dutch for United East India Company) Founded: 1602 in the Netherlands Significance: One of the world’s first multinational corporations and the first to issue stock. Played a huge role in global trade, especially between Europe and Asia

Illustrious-Smoke509

You never heard of the VOC from the 17th century?

PercentageOk1782

Some of us are switching to gold and gold miners. We are doing fine. Look at Sandstorm and VOC

Apprehensive-Mark241

Lol it's so complicated. Someone posted a video claiming that filters don't work. Then some people in his comment section said that his VOC meter is cheap and useless and that his homemade filter has the a low pressure filter that can't possibly push air through the carbon. Jesus. Anyway I think I'll trust that if the purposefully made filters get rid of the smell then they're working, but maybe I'll keep the number of prints low until summer when I can take the outer window off and vent outside.

NorthHaverbrookNate

The spice must flow, but VOC/Dutch East India Co.

1Plz-Easy-Way-Star

Bruh we are going back to VOC/EIC Era

Strong_Land_9748

Nah, I bought lots of tulips to sell for big profits. My dutch friend says they are the next big thing after the VOC stock.

Miltondebunk

Anyone know why VOC Trust can consistently pay 16+% in dividends?

greytoc

>how stock market start, who made it, who invested, The oldest stock market is the Amsterdam Stock market. If you google it - you can find a lot about it. In the US - the NYSE which is now part of ICE has a nice short write-up here - [https://www.nyse.com/history-of-nyse](https://www.nyse.com/history-of-nyse) >how did it go from corporate business people to investor like average Jo What do you mean? Public stock markets are by their nature - "public" - anyone can participate in it. Early public companies like the VOC was obviously limited in access. I guess it depends on what you mean by "average Jo" and which century you are referring to. >how it was execute back in the day versus now Back when? Depends on how far you go back. Back before computers, shares were physically exchanges with certificates. And when computers arrived but before networks - it was couriered. And then transmitted on private networks. Today with wide-spread networks - share management are computerized and exchanged on networks.

No_Privacy_Anymore

For anyone looking for a summary of the business I would recommend you start here. https://www.reddit.com/r/PureCycle/s/VPmzZWuYnH As far sales to the automotive market, that is coming and is a huge opportunity. VW and Purecycle have a joint presentation in Detroit in April about using recycled PP in class A applications (the high value stuff that customers see like bumpers). Each car can have several hundred pounds of plastic an pp is strong and light. Luxury vehicles will likely be the first use cases. Purecycle’s PureFive product also has much lower VOC’s than virgin plastic so no new car smell if you use it.

BNeutral

Well, there's some distinction to be made between the East India Company (British, called EIC), the Dutch East India Company (Dutch, called VOC), as they were actually competing and even at war with each other at times I think, etc. But I would say both were pretty big business rivaling the power of states, yes. Still companies though, any citizen of the Dutch Republic could buy stock in the VOC in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange in \~1600, and apparently the dividends were really good.

xiodeman

The Dutch East India Company, also known as the United East India Company (VOC)

ragingbuffalo

Bruh. Its literally chemistry on how emission interact with the air (and other air emissions). That aint changing. NOR is carbon monoxide, NoX, CO, SO2, VOC and PM, all somehow going be not harmful to do you. Like come on man. Is it good there's less? Sure. Does that mean its not harmful anymore? No. You have 0 idea what you are talking about.

ykoreaa

my neighbor was having a disagreement, and it's mostly mumbled, but she said that part louder than her other words and I was wondering if she was referring to me or other ppl around their apt? Bc I kept coughing really loud and almost gauging after the VOC spiked up

ykoreaa

pass 2:30 am and VOC spiked

DeltaP2SavetheE

Real talk, if in the US you can rent a 5-gas monitor (common: MultiRAE) from an environmental supply house (Pine, and many others) for fairly cheap. However, as with my above comment, if you are experiencing a physical reaction as a result of VOC, you need to leave, and I’m shocked that you would not have left already. Call fire dept, explain, evacuate.

Mopater

I really like VOC. Returns and dividends have been good. It's a microcap, but if that doesn't scare you off it's a nice one

BTTammer

VOC

Bossie81

Dutch proverb HE WHO DOES NOT HONOR THE SMALL, IS NOT WORTH THE BIG! (This stems from colonial VOC times when white men showed their penis to women in Africa)

RossRiskDabbler

Imagine if our forefathers would have invested in the first stock market. The VOC. https://dutchreview.com/culture/history/how-rich-was-the-dutch-east-india-company/ Uff, screw those measly diversified thingies. Old school was better.

hughk

The first options were on commodities and traded in ancient Greece. The Dutch East India Company (VOC) had a relatively high share price which limited liquidity. This prompted the development of derivatives like equity options. As far as I know, the VOC options were first traded on the Amsterdam Beurs.

Skoggler

Tssss this ain't true at all, Dutch East India Company (VOC) had an inflation-corrected market capitalization of approximately $8 trillion. Gekoloniseerd.

quarantineishere

All good until China comes knocking. Then you're just like Newton when he invested his life savings in the $VOC

_WhatchaDoin_

“The Dutch East India Company (VOC) is considered by some to be the largest company in history, with a market capitalization of 78 million Dutch guilders at the height of Tulipmania, which is roughly $7.4 trillion in today's dollars. In 1669, the VOC was the world's richest private company, with over 150 merchant ships, 40 warships, 50,000 employees, and a private army of 10,000 soldiers.” According to this, we may want to consider shorting NVDA when it reaches $3200 (or $320 post split).

HelloViggomanFanHere

VOC

MomentSpecialist2020

Look at the oil royalty companies like CRT, VOC, etc. The gold royalty companies are hot now with gold going parabolic. WPM, FNV, SAND etc. I also like GNT and BSM now.

Harisdrop

The highest P/E (Price-to-Earnings) ratio in stock market history was the Dutch East India Company (VOC) which had a P/E ratio of over 183. The company was trading in 1698 and reached this P/E ratio mainly due to its exclusive trading rights, and monopoly over the spice trading market. It was considered one of the richest and most powerful companies on earth during its times. What if Dune 2 and Nvidia come of age at the same time

BresaolaBeef

The Netherlands had the most valuable company ever in existence lol. We invented corporations. Ever heard of the VOC?

intraalpha

VOC and other oil stocks

Life-Designer-4936

Yeah. Unless I'm missing something, they essentially wrote a futures contract, but individually for each share of VOC. Then they spread negative rumors to push down the market price.

Lanky_Associate_6201

I have O on watchlist, I’m into VOC, ET, MO, MRO and a few other things.

AbsoluteEngineering

It is a huge portion of the energy transition portfolio going forward. Less CO2 per kw, much less NOx and SOx and VOC per lb of fuel. LNG bunkered ships have longer range. It's just a huge step up over fuels like diesel and coal. Then, we can catch up with battery technology and hopefully hydrogen will become a more highly traded commodity. The Saudis could flip a switch if they wanted and become the world's chief exporter of hydrogen, but there are few customers so far.

bearhunter429

ChatGPT says: "The defunct company that holds the record for being the most valuable company ever, after adjusting for inflation, is the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie or VOC in Dutch). It was the world's first publicly traded company and was listed on the Amsterdam Stock Exchange, which is considered the world's first official stock exchange. At its peak in the 17th century, the VOC had a market capitalization that would be equivalent to more than $7 trillion in today's dollars, making it one of the most financially successful companies in history." LMAO 🤌

GeneralDepo

VOC

That-Whereas3367

The VOC peak value was only about $1 billion . [https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/xwgx64/no\_the\_dutch\_east\_india\_company\_voc\_was\_not\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/xwgx64/no_the_dutch_east_india_company_voc_was_not_the/)

redpandaeater

Makes me wonder how they did it back when VOC was the only thing trading.

intraalpha

Get some VOC. Wink wink

Unlucky-Simple7870

Still holding VOC 

DarkXTC

Most successful company in the history of capitalism? The EIC ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company ) and VOC ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company ) might want to have a little chat with you ;S I don't see apple having its personal navy and army and large swaths of land

youdontknowwhoiamlol

I'm sorry but as a Dutch person, it is my duty to remind you of the glorious VOC before you ever say something like that again.

mytendies

VOC!

SargeMaximus

VOC. I bought around $4 a few years ago. 10% dividend as well

conspiracyscape420

VOC got that fat divi

mytendies

Get VOC pls and godspeed

mytendies

Get VOC!

mytendies

Do you have any particular source for meaningful headlines? Do you always trade in the obvious direction of the headlines? Can you please buy a lot of VOC now on the oil cut headlines? Thanks

WSBpeon69420

Hey VOC friend

mytendies

VOC pls

Ehralur

Without getting into the absurd ones like the VOC hundreds of years ago, I have no idea. I do know that there's a very real chance Tesla will be regarded as the greatest stock in history in a few decades though.

StonksSkyhigh

VOC back in the old days lol

mytendies

I am also long DVN. Read my post on oil. I went hard on that one It is not good for options, but check out VOC for shares.

BuraakGTi10

I live in The Netherlands. Just transfer me 3 btc and i will invest in the VOC for you.

mfdoomguy

Maybe. Short selling has been around since the stock markets emerged in the Dutch Republic during the 1600s. In 1610, the Dutch market crashed, and Isaac Le Maire, a prominent merchant, was blamed because he was actively short selling stocks. He was a major shareholder in the Dutch East India Company (also known as Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie or VOC). Le Maire, a former member of the company's board, and his associates were accused of manipulating VOC's stock. They attempted to drive share prices down by selling large quantities of shares on the market. The Dutch government took action and instituted a temporary ban on short selling.

finndego

The first ever publicly traded company (VOC Dutch East India Company) was worth about 7.8T before it went down in flames.

redpandaeater

If you account for inflation I can't imagine they're even close to VOC.

That-Whereas3367

The estimated GDP of the *entire world* in 1600 was only equivalent to $329B in 1990 dollars. The *entire* GDP of the Dutch Republic in 1600 was only equivalent to $2B in 1990 dollars. \[1.5M million people with $1381 per capita GDP.\]. The VOC contribution was only equivalent to a few hundred million per annum. The Dutch 'colonies' were nothing more than small trading outpost with a small European presence. The countries were actually run by the existing rulers. The VOC peak payroll was only about 30.000 personnel. \[\~$50M in 1990 dollars.\] The idea that the VOC was the largest corporation is history is so utterly nonsensical that it should be considered a joke.

That-Whereas3367

The multi-trillion dollar valuations for the VOC have absolutely no basis in reality. It is just nonsensical extrapolation of supposed inflation. Even at the absolute peak the company assets (a few hundred small wooden ships) and the MC in silver guilders never exceeded more than about $1 billion in modern currency.

mytendies

Been on BTU since March. Since you are one of the non regarded, look at VOC.

wartywarth0g

I diversified a bit into dividend paying stocks. Looking back at performance since the start of rate hikes to see if they’re extremely volatile or not. XLE and VOC have been doing well. The idea is I get 4-5% from a 1yr GIC atm so I want something comparable, 2-5% range on a relatively stable stock with some upside when the recession is over and limited downside.

DrBarry_McCockiner

Back to the bourse! I'll give you two pounds of silver and a 10% stake in my next cargo shipment profits for 20 shares of the VOC and another 10 of John Company, my good man. Bring the shares to luncheon at the Carlton Club on Tuesday. My man servant will send the contracts to your factor. Yeah. liquidity would be shit.

That-Whereas3367

I have no idea how the extreme valuations were derived. At no time did the VOC have more than \~$5B in tangible assets. Peak annual revenue was about $100M in modern terms.

That-Whereas3367

The VOC peak value was far less than $10 ***billion*** in modern terms. The claimed multi-trillion dollar valuations are total BS.

udo3

On Robinhood and possibly other platforms you can buy shares in a little known energy trust called VOC. Pays dividends more reliably than politicians lie.

greytoc

Purely just a guess but... A dividend is actually based on the shares. Not the value of the stock. A shareholder is entitled to some share or portion based per share. The etymology of the word "dividend" from the late 1500's is "portion or share of something". The first known public company to pay a dividend is the Vereenigde Nederlandsche Geoctroyeerde Oostindische Compagnie or commonly called VOC which was established in 1602. In English, you may know it as the Dutch East India Company.

mytendies

Agree with the sentiment but not the absolute. Look at VOC, sell the 8 dollar put, max loss is 800 - credit received. If you were bullish on VOC then this is an ok situation to sell a naked put. Selling naked calls is a bad idea usually, but if you have the shares or cash collateral it can make sense.

Adept_Gold3494

Those numbers are annoyingly good [yahoo VOC](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VOC/key-statistics?p=VOC)