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alander4

Kraken is one of the few exchanges available to me that I HAVEN’T used. Am I missing out?

Giga79

>PLEASE explain to me how becoming frustrated with trolls and untrue assumptions shows a lack of self-awareness. This is truly the first time I have ever been told this, so I am listening. You created this thread asking people how you and your project can be seen as genuine. >What’s the reason people should trust you with their cash? You can’t blame people for not trusting you, it’s your job to earn trust. Someone asks a legitimate and very basic question. **What's the reason** people should trust you? This is what you're here for. >All I'm asking is to withhold judgment until you have actual information, which you & the other cynics don't. We've not asked for a dime from anyone so where's this negative bashing coming from?! And you became instantly defensive. Which, I would say is exactly how *not* to be seen as genuine. Notice you don't answer their question and actually call it *negative bashing*. Anyway, the OP treats it as a simple misunderstanding. You clearly don't want cash, even though you say you'll need cash at some later point when you'll be clear *as fk* you're asking for it. OP rephrases their question and asks you again. If you're not asking for cash yet, and all of us need more information to make any sort of judgement about you, and you *want* to be seen as genuine, then you must be asking for our time or energy or something in place of cash. Again, they're simply asking **what's the reason** people should spend their time to learn about your project, in direct reply to you saying no one trusts you. >Why do I need to spend my time, energy or anything. I’m trying to help you here. Why do I owe you anything? If your want to succeed to need to be able to answer that question. "Why should we see you as genuine? Why do I have to do work to see this?" Are legitimate business questions to any startup. It's a set up question, like during an interview, and like in an interview your response says more than you know. This should be an easy point. >Nobody said you owed anybody anything. All I said is DONT SIT HERE AND SPOUT OFF ABOUT US BEING UNTRUTHFUL IF YOU HAVENT EVEN TAKEN THE TIME TO JOIN OUR COMMUNITY/LEARN ABOUT US. AKA don't judge us and make proclamations about us simply bcz SBF existed. And this is your reply to that. Again, while you're supposedly seeking legitimacy and our trust. Imagine being in a job interview, you're asked how you build trust in your business relationships, and you reply with DON'T SIT HERE AND SPOUT OFF ABOUT US BEING UNTRUTHFUL IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT US. That's what I mean about you having no self awareness. You designed the interview, created the set and setting, placed yourself here, and you still failed every basic question miserably by throwing a literal tantrum. The *interviewer* never even made it to the second question, or to any constructive criticisms, none of this helps you be seen as genuine or like you're actually seeking advice (you're the only one who comes off as a troll in this thread). A proper answer to "What's the reason I should trust you?", would look something like, "These are 10 things we've done for people. This is our team. These are our goals. This is our roadmap. These are our biggest issues, but this is what I'm doing to solve them." You know, actions talk louder than words (maybe not YOURS). And to answer, "Why should I expend effort to learn about you *before* I trust you?" you should have clearly stated goals with your project. If its goals align with my own, that's a good reason for me to spend time learning about it. "We're trying to save all the puppies. We've saved over 100 this month." The reason your project is being seen as a scam and disingenuous is very likely because the way you carry it and the way you defensively communicate to all people. You came here to have a little help session to learn what's wrong with your project, and you immediately start to yell how unfair it is people want you to answer any question they have. Well, there's the answer. This thread was like watching someone miss a T-ball ten times in a row.

MckorkleJones

Are you the same fuck? I HAVEN'T USED FTX

AlligatorDerby

Or Taxes means you received Staking rewards That you HAVEN'T SOLD or TRADED and owe money,.While you're portfolio is Well in the Red....

ziptofaf

Well, at this point it's easier to name exchanges that HAVEN'T folded and lost their users money over the last decade. Be it CEO "dying without leaving anyone a key" to "we got hacked and they extracted all our monies Q\_Q"

Advanced-Ingenuity46

This is exactly what I HAVEN'T been asking for for years! Thanks Meta! Jackholes!!!

road22

We have never been through a crypto bear market during a recession. During first part of a recession everything goes down as everyone wants to hold USD. Then when the fed tries to get us out of recession (turn on money printer and lower interest rates), the BTC will become a SAFE HAVEN asset for which it was designed.

zumbahennym0067

im going to hook ya up. THORCHAIN. HAVEN PROTOCOL and MONERO up next. cbdcs/kyc surveillance checkmated. were creating a new system. lets take "taxes" in a new direction. "public goods" seeing where all our money is spent and what business are actually qualified to do the job. our hearts would break if we ever actually audit the fed and irs like they do us.

CunningStunt_1

LOOK AT THE ETHERSCAN. THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OR MOVED ANYTHING IN OVER 85 DAYS. https://etherscan.io/token/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca#balances

xbriannova

Wow so you're just an asshole then. Maybe I should sell you as an NFT and see how much you're worth and compare that to NFTs that I HAVEN'T EVEN CREATED YET. Maybe that'd make a good metric. Good God, I know you ate Cheerios with someone's piss in it this morning, but at least vent it in a healthier way

Arkfoo

Brilliant discussion, go have a look at SATA and SAFE HAVEN as well. Additionally LTO is one of the fav to come out ontop. Just purely on their product "DID" that can be easily utilised for multiple core business functions, I mean even the UN are working with them.

aussiegreenie

London is ***MUCH LARGER TAX HAVEN***

BitcoinBoo

>Oh but what does this guy know about btc” yea true I don’t know anything! But do you know who I trust ? The over 90 richest whales that HAVEN’T SOLD A SINGLE COIN SINCE ATH! They keep buying every dip. Every. Single. One. THIS.RIGHT.HERE They are buying, MOONCUMBOT. They are buying daddy up.

oarabbus

>“Oh but what does this guy know about btc” yea true I don’t know anything! But do you know who I trust ? The over 90 richest whales that HAVEN’T SOLD A SINGLE COIN SINCE ATH! They keep buying every dip. Every. Single. One. I agree with your overall sentiment, but this part doesn't really make sense to me. Hate to break it to you but the guys who were buying hundreds or thousands of bitcoin in 2017 or earlier, already had tons of money in the bank...

Mattcwu

> The over 90 richest whales that HAVEN’T SOLD A SINGLE COIN SINCE ATH! They keep buying every dip. Every. Single. One. Are you sure about that?

UnexperiencedIT

With years coming those same people will be like "WHY HAVEN'T YOU TOLD ME THAT EARLIER"