MSFT

tika_dengu

Please sign this petition to delist MSFT: [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1ra7akv/weekend_discussion_thread_for_the_weekend_of/)

Flaky_Vacation_8807

If Gates' personal dealings with Epstein truly had zero impact on Microsoft, why did he cling to Chairman and board roles until 2020? right through the flights, dinners, and emails now exploding in fresh 2026 dumps and why is the company still priced on his founder halo like Apple's post-Jobs premium? You claim valuation is pure revenue and cloud growth, yet you're blind to how every major investor prices in exactly this kind of reputational cancer, the same way "vibes" erased billions from other "bulletproof" names overnight. Wake up. the Gates Foundation just fire-sold 65% of its MSFT stake in Q3 2025 as the next Epstein wave hit, either they're idiots ignoring your flawless fundamentals, or your entire reality of scandals don't matter is the real delusion.

OG_Sharp

Of the mag 7 was my main point. While meta has a lower forward PE, i don't like the stock. There are certainly other companies to invest in out there, but I added more shares of at MSFT at 400. I ask my self, which stocks could I foresee reasonably increasing in value 25% or more this year? Could MSFT reach back up to 500 or above? I think that can entirely happen. It hit 540 back in October. Could Google go from 300 to 400 or Nvidia from 190 to 250? Maybe, though less likely (I own similar amounts of GOOGL and NVDA as MSFT now).

Portfoliana

the "sell everything and buy VOO" crowd is kind of missing something here. AMZN, GOOGL, AAPL, MSFT are literally the top holdings in VOO anyway, so you dont need to sell those and eat the capital gains to get index fund exposure, becuase you already have it. the one actual problem in this portfolio is taht Tesla is 50% of it. trim the Tesla down to something sane over a year or two and let the rest ride.

insighttrader_io

You are still paying an implicit interest rate — it’s just hidden in the option price. The $58k premium isn’t free money. It reflects interest rate, volatility, downside risk, opportunity cost of capital. Market makers price puts so there is no free financing advantage. Also, just good to keep in mind: **Your downside exposure starts immediately, not at $450.** Your true breakeven is: $450 − $58 = $392 So you’re effectively agreeing to buy MSFT at $392. Hope that helps/makes sense. I used to teach this so if you have any questions let me know.

jd192739

If you bought MSFT Nov 15 2021 you would be up 15% now

Kickboy21

I want to disable the sell button on robinhood so i dont sell MSFT until april

pineapplekiwipen

MSFT please my calls have children

derekhans

I have 48,812 shares of MSFT with an average cost basis of 27. I’m not selling. If you’re not loss harvesting, selling now would not be smart. At least wait until 4Q.

not_my_monkeys_

I’ll load up on MSFT the day after Altman flees to a foreign country with the last billion dollars he ever managed to scam out of someone.

TorqueDog

OP said he wants to buy 1,000 shares of MSFT, which is 10 puts. So (100 shares x $450) x 10 contracts = $450,000 - $58,000 premium.

Still-Analysis-133

Google P/E was 17 when everything else was 30. MSFT is 25 when everything else is 28

WendyDumpsterFire

I’m drunk but I’m gonna say fuck ADBE MSFT NVDA, GOOG, ORCL, FIG, TSLA, etc

Prestigious-Ad-7927

Have you looked into buying an ITM call and either selling shorter term calls (diagonal spread) or a same expiration (vertical spread). An example would be buying a June 200 call for 200.00 and selling a Mar 425 for 3.00. You can roll the Mar if it goes up before June. The idea is to exercise the 200 call by June and have the short call expire by rolling accordingly. An example of a vertical would be to buy June a 200 call and selling a June 460 call for a debit of 192.00. If MSFT is above 460 then you make 68.00 by closing it out as a spread. If it’s below 460 then you can exercise the 200 call and your cost will be 200+ 192 debit so total is 392.00.

PseudoTsunami

You're good, it's valid. It's $53 intrinsic versus $5 extrinsic, so you'll only feel bad if MSFT blows past 455, anything below 450 you can assume you got a $5 discount. The only thing you missed covering is that writing puts require margin as well.

No_Current3675

MSFT will be fine.

kool_mandate

Yea.. I mean I guess it could work if MSFT ends above 390 in June , otherwise you would have been better off paying margin interest . Your margin interest rate for the period is only 2.167% if Microsoft goes down to 360, it’s the economic equivalent of paying 55% margin interest ?

Oaklandforever51

Back in 2002 my son turned 8 and I finally had the resources to tell him I'd purchase $100 worth of stock a month until he graduated and that $ would go into his college fund. I let him pick the stock - surprisingly, he picked Microsoft. He was into video games so I thought he'd pick EA or something similar. But, no. Ok, then. MSFT was in the 40s then and not doing much of anything. I just wanted it to stay level. Turns out, he didn't need it for college and there it sits, waiting for him to inherit. In retrospect, I should have asked his 8 year old self for other picks!

Inevitable_Wing_2600

Yes, you'll have to buy 100 shares of MSFT at 450 if you get assigned early. You can use the 58k credit you get towards that purchase but you'll be on the hook for the rest.

kool_mandate

What’s your account size compared to a $450,000 obligation ? If your portfolio declines in value, you could get a margin call. Bottom line is that this is bullish bet , in order for this to make sense MSFT has to end the period above the breakeven and the required return on $58k , 2.16% in 120 days . This is a losing trade if MSFT ends the holding period below $390 because you would have been better off paying the margin interest . And that’s only -2% from here ? If the market goes down, your accounts gonna blow up from shirt obligation.

pineapplekiwipen

can MSFT stop being a bitch already

kool_mandate

Right , it would be in the put buyers interest to exercise it prior to expiration? Furthermore , there’s no guarantee you’d get assigned at expiry? Also, what if MSFT was at 342 at expiration ? You’d realize a $50,000 loss ? I don’t get why you’d want to sell ITM puts ? Seems poor compensation for the risk

Retired-Programmer

I was about to make basically both those same 2 points, so instead will add to his 2 comments. If MSFT goes up to $500 you will lose out on some $45K of profit when compared to owning MSFT. I have seen where I have had deep ITM puts (like if I had the $550 strike MSFT 06/18/2026 Puts) and immediately (that night) get assigned and then I immediately sell another one and then immediately get assigned again. So you have to watch out for that as u/y1pp0 said. But right now I would say the $450 6/18/2025 MSFT puts wouldn't have that issue right now, but later on it could (especially is MSFT drops).

mido_sama

Lucky me I’m a bag holder for MSFT for the foreseeable future.

Kickboy21

Thinking about MSFT all weekend. I hope we pump next week 🥺

jhelton808

You mean the pure growth companies in the Nasdaq100 like AAPL and MSFT?

jhelton808

Yes the sustainable non-growth companies of NVDA AMZN MSFT CRM

Recent-Animator6941

I'm with you on this !! I fucking hate all the ASTS fanatics here. Most of the AI companies are loss making & showing no returns Only handful of few (MSFT, GOOG, NVDA) are going to stay after the bubble pops.

Cav829

WSB seems to have no consensus play other than MSFT which is also the biggest conviction play of every subreddit so maybe it’s time to short it.

PayMyDividend

I understand the doubts surrounding them. But I’ve seen this play out multiple times before. I brought up Google and Meta. Both are relevant to MSFT in their own ways currently. In terms of Meta, when it got especially hammered a handful of years ago, it was due to stalling user bases but more importantly, their presumed odd big bet on the “Metaverse.” MSFT is getting criticized especially lately due to their large CapEx AI spending. But they aren’t even the ones dumping the most relative to others Mag7 companies lately. And when it comes to Google, it was also OpenAi/ChatGPT. But for some different reasons. The big fear with them was ChatGPT would render google search almost useless. Which would create enough rift in the business. Which seemingly has become a thing of the past now. And on a side note, Even Apple got in this situation not long ago. Many doubted them when the stock price was lagging by comparison at the time. Yet has staged a reasonably good rebound since. You can always find presumed paths for failure on any company no matter what. But a company at the caliber like MSFT at these valuations relative to their historical trends? There’s not many other companies currently with this type of scale, balance sheet, and raw profitability. Seems like a time not to overthink it and go with the very fairly valued behemoth and chill out for a while.

PayMyDividend

Based on what I’m looking at MSFT has NEVER dipped under its largest moving average in about a decade (maybe even a few years or more.) where is their current largest moving average sitting? Almost smack dap right at $375. Maybe not the end all be all simple metrics, but it gives you a pretty good idea of where it’s gotten to a turning point quite well historically. I’ve been buying like a maniac in the really high $390’s and real low $400’s. If it manages to get close or even under $375? Yup, it’s going to be hardcore accumulation time. But, it’s hard to say if it will get that close. Anything under $400 seems like excellent accumulation territory.

Kennykemp

Are we really going to sit here and pretend like MSFT isn’t a buy and hold for the next 3-5 years? What did they used to call it, diamond hands?

Kickboy21

MSFT

PayMyDividend

I’ve owned Roper for quite a while and have added a good bit recently. Definitely a great choice. Strong company at cheap valuations. They’re a dividend aristocrat so that’s a sweet cherry on top. But Microsoft is especially interesting to me. I’ve never really been one to outright buy the Mag7-type companies (outside of my core ETF’s.) But Microsoft just seems like the biggest no-brainer in plain sight. I’ve been buying a fairly big chunk right around $400 lately. The company is an absolute fortress that spits out cash like no tomorrow. In my eyes it’s easily a $600+ company. It gives me beaten down Meta and Google down vibes. I just don’t see how MSFT doesn’t come roaring back with a vengeance in the near future. I’d have to say they’re my #1 pound the table, load the boat kind of company out there.

Existing_Emphasis_33

I am building my positions on MSFT and NOW. I am hoping for MSFT to fall to 350$-375$ to load up. If by some miracle it goes below that, I will load the heck out of the boat. Same for NOW. 85$ and below is my ideal load the boat moment.

Status-Net2947

Can’t decide between MSFT and AMZN

Radio_Paste

\>Most of their products that arent corporate suite fail or are failing. Their non-business segment is only 17% of revenue, so you're lost in your own narrative. You can't talk about MSFT without talking about cloud & business.

Kickboy21

So many dumb retarded bears calling for MSFT $350-370 that i hope it fucking pumps next few weeks to fuck their puts

kinetic_honda

I was losing up on Meta the past few months. Now I've been buying some MSFT, NFLX, HOOD, COIN

big_marlin444

Currently doing blood rituals for our stocks to green dildo next week. Lmk any tickers you’d like Rn it’s RKLB TSLA NBIS MSFT NVDA PLTR

GammaReaper_

This was a loser. I paid $.90 debit for a 55/60/75/80 IC so max loss $0.90, max profit $4.10 so solid 4.6 reward to risk. Historically over last 12 Q, this setup would have paid the max 25% of the time, so expected value = $0.35. This was a cheap IV set-up with a high EV. Since I risk only a small % of my capital and do a lot of these trades, the law of averages works in my favor overtime. I'm mainly a long vol/long gamma trader so I'm more interested in total pnl, not win rates. I would do this trade again, even though it was a loser in this case, because when it hits, it more than makes up for the losers. Two big recent winners using this strategy were $COIN and $MSFT.

Megaloman-_-

MSFT is indeed interesting now. So is NFLX and HOOD

undertaker2k8

Most of the same arguments apply to big software vendors too, if only slightly less capital intensive. There always have been cheaper alternatives to MSFT, INTU, CRM products etc. yet they have commanding market shares that keep growing. Now we're to believe that a garage vibe coder will replace them overnight (not to mention that these companies have armies of actual AI experts already in place to prevent that). Look into Ben Reitzes of Melius, he is the coordinating lynch pin behind the HF software short.Also the clown behind the GOOG short of last year.

dcgradc

You mean she invested 35 ? That's huge Google + MSFT are great options. So was Apple but not so sure anymore You could sell Starbucks + Tesla and maybe Apple and invest in in 1-2 ETFS recommended on here .

taintedmask

Using an ad hominem attack, really? You all are really classy. It doesn't even make sense. OP didn't buy a put on MSFT. There are other ways to get rich.

Crazy_Donkies

AMZN. AWS, ads, 12% profit growth and accelerating with logistics vertical integration, backlog in AI using proprietary chips, headcount reductions, growing internationally, media streaming and sports IP, and more. MSFT is going to sit until we see results with AI.​

Acceptable_Bed_6033

MSFT

Status-Net2947

AMZN or MSFT long term ?

option-trader

I mean, follow the money. Money seems to be coming and going quick in MSFT. Where’s that money heading? Seems like the money trail leads to NVDA, VRT, LITE, MU, SNDK, GEV, and even CAT and DE.

JawnxWick

MSFT has to be one of the worst stocks ever

Moepenmoes

Some guy on WSB said he actively uses PowerPoint again to boost $MSFT shareholder sentiment. So why is $MSFT not recovering yet?

Big-Quote4483

the only reason MSFT isnt red today is becasue its the weekend and the market is closed

Important-Vegetable1

i feel the same, i managed to add some more tech (MSFT, AMZN, META, and shamefully, RDDT :P)

Apart_Ad_9778

None of the ones I know. I know nothing about the most commonly mentioned QC stocks on this reddit. I do not know what they do. And it is hard for me to imagine that a single company like IONQ, QBTS or similar could have the potential, knowledge, and money to build a real life qc computer. I was looking into buying some of the qc stocks, I did the research and apparently some of them have a working qc computer and they rent the computing power, but I find it hard to believe. It is still a mystery to me as to what do these qc companies sell? Where I work we have a working 2 qubits. But that is only a very expensive toy. It does nothing. And it has been built by 15 companies. I do realize that what we do here is far behind what the most advanced companies have but I still think those the most advanced companies are still far away from having something that would be of any commercial value. And I think if there is any company to create a product that could sell it will be some spin off of GOOG or MSFT or INTC or IBM or something like that. I think Microsoft's chip Majorana 1 is like light years ahead of what we have and what we are able to produce. The same IBM, GOOG. And yet I do not hear of any break thru. And I say none purely as a swing trader. I look at the chart and I take the decision if I see accumulation, possible break, or any other setup. QC stock purely by looking at the chart are only speculative. Some people here invest this way that they buy a speculative stock, freeze the money for ten years and hope for "to the moon". I prefer to trade setups that are about to generate a profit. I do not freeze the money in the hope that maybe some day this will skyrocket.

dvdmovie1

Capex will eventually slow (2027? 2028?) but even then it will remain elevated vs history. Owning Microsoft going forward is a much more asset-heavy story than it was in the past. Stock is up 64% over the last 5 years and about 80% off the bottom in 2022. 3 and 5 years are a long period where one could have done better in something more boring and a lot better focusing on where the money was being spent than buying the spender (MSFT - AMZN another at +29% over the last 5 years.)

SpiffyGolf

Basta semplicemente comprare le azioni di MSFT che in questo momento sono a sconto

CriticalBlackberry90

The market is irrational. Kept selling off banks and other financial institutions with rock solid fundamentals like JPM and SCHW during the 2023 bank run because Peter Thiel collapsed some shitty overleveraged regional banks. It is the same for AI. Do you actually think ORCL MSFT etf are going to be insolvent lol. This is the most fundamentally important technology there has ever been and is a means of national security as well. There is 0 chance the United States government would let tech collapse and give a win to China.

Little_Magazine_1773

Nothing to do with MSFT but honestly nothing pisses off company bosses/ CEOs more than employees who threaten to quit over decisions made by them. Don't be surprised if they are looking for replacements behind the scenes .

Ill-Ad1603

This is like fucking nothing, crying over $600 loss on shares of MSFT? get the fuck outta here

gamjatang111

he does have some MSFT backing to be fair. Meta and Google are taking some debt to finance this ordeal.

WordsHappenedHere

So MSFT going to about 3 fiddy it looks like.

TheSleepyTruth

You honestly think that's why MSFT stock declined? Lmfao you can't be serious. The entire software sector has been seen a steep drawdown, and additionally the massive capex that these hyperscalers are spending on AI buildouts has spooked the markets. So of course Microsoft is part of that greater correction we are seeing across the sector. You are literally the first person I've heard try to draw some strained connection between Bill Gates in the Epstein files and Microsoft's stock price. Correlation does not equal causation.

Kickboy21

I full ported MSFT today at $397.04. I believe within 5 months, it’ll go back to $480. Only bad thing is i check my portfolio 100 times per day and im super impatient

Little_Magazine_1773

MSFT's multiple needs to be like half of what it is today. Azure will make money. Saas not so much especially with AI replacing white collar workers very soon and there go the SaaS subscription numbers. Is that worth paying 30 times forward PE for? Nope!

Previous-Display-593

Lots of experts claim AI is a commodity. Meaning you get the compute you get the widely available expertise, and you get AI. Something like what Elon did with X AI. For that reason I am sort of excited about the discounts on companies like MSFT and META.

gratatatatatatat

MSFT, NVDA, and any memory stock if you want tech. Energy and gold miners/metals are appealing as well imo

AgileHornet5960

I’m hesitant on APLD due to its deals mostly coming from Core weave who is notorious for burning cash compared to IREN. Furthermore, NVDA just divested their holdings in APLD— that’s a no go for me. IREN and NBIS have very similar deals with MSFT which is funding both of those companies debt in order for their data centers to come online sooner. The deal is good for both as it allows them to have clear revenue visibility into 2026 and later years. Also with Iren being vertically integrated it actually saves more on expenses than the other data centers. 2024-2025 was the AI spend. 2026 is the result. Check out IRENS total capacity in their portfolio of data centers. ≈10% of their capacity is filled allowing for significant growth.

Prolapse_leakage

20% of my net worth in MSFT at $245....  should I average down now or wait? 

Dangerous-Lychee-226

MSFT calls

LarsTarkas

Full port on MSFT puts, might end up jumping 20% on Monday because fuck me

skilliard7

Not currently holding AMZN besides index funds. Only big tech stocks I own is MSFT which I opened a position in when it dropped below $400, and SK hynix/samsung which I bought into in Dec 2024 and April 2024.

tropicalia84

I'd have made a million dollars if I bought this instead of MSFT

AgileHornet5960

Ultimately, core weave is just burning cash compared to IREN. NBIS & IREN both have similar deals with MSFT. But, I see IREN set to benefit the most due to their vertically integrated data center and reduced costs compared to the other data centers.

Prudent-Corgi3793

I agree with the first two points: while MSFT isn't my favorite stock overall, it is my favorite buy right now because the valuation is compelling and the capex is relatively modest They need to figure out how to diversify their main growth engine (Azure/Intelligent Cloud) away from OpenAI. I don't know how they are going to compete with Gemini having superior consumer-facing frontier models and distribution networks and Claude having much better enterprise/API-based models, all while cheaper open-source Chinese models have essentially eroded any performance advantage. There's essentially nowhere for them on the Pareto frontier.

Moepenmoes

Why is $MSFT down, I thought Copilot was king

Icy-Weakness2516

MSFT keeps getting hit.

zurijer

AMZN, GOOGL, and META rallying and then you have this POS MSFT going the opposite direction

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banbet! MSFT 405 7d

CMDR_Shepard96

MSFT you piece of shit. GOOGL managed 4% today

I_Sniff_Uranus

I had MSFT calls and SPX puts lmao

The_Alan_Greenspan

I’ve got $GOOG June calls also. Still holding. AMZN shares only. As to why, they’re very profitable and I believe undervalued. Nancy would probably disagree. To be fair, I made 6K a couple weeks ago on MSFT calls so I could very well be guilty of rinse and repeat. Works until it doesn’t!

The_Alan_Greenspan

Took a 7K bath (20ish%) on MSFT calls today. Didn’t expire until March but that’s my limit. Get back in if the tide changes. Deleveraging overall rn a little, even if I have to take a loss. Money best put elsewhere, like my mattress.

Gam3B0iHack3r

Buy MSFT and hold. Thank me later

EquivalentFilm7701

Pressed the new Copilot button accidentally while trading MSFT, I totally get it my fellow regard.

Coffeewin

MSFT eating glue in like the kid on the playing munching on RoseArt crayons

tropicalia84

MSFT officially closing the week with the most oversold/lowest weekly RSI reading since 2006. The worst it's been including an entire market crash, crippling recession, 10% interest rates, 115 DXY, and negative earnings growth while the business is still growing.

Actual_Difference617

Finally sold my MSFT calls today so it can finally pump. Thank me later.

calv178

I’m just glad I didn’t have more buying power on MSFT

Big-Quote4483

sellinh MSFT for the sake of my mental health shits awful fucking trash

kinetic_honda

Reddit never learns. 1-2 years from today I guarantee reddit will be singing songs about why everyone should own MSFT.

LeBhikariLe

if you have $1000 lying around, don't invest it in MSFT.

tribalDruid78

MSFT can you do something? I only have myself to blame

puffinnbluffin

Seriously why is MSFT getting cucked so fucking bad when none of the others are

aquavelva5

If the question is: is microsoft a growth company? I would say no. This is based on a few things, including its age. And AI: I also think microsoft will be pulled back by the debt of its AI expenses. I think its actually possible AI will end a few big tech companies: the expense will weaken them, the specific company wont excel with AI, the company will founder, merge or die off. Similar to IBM and microsoft took over. I own quite a bit of MSFT, but I wont look at it for growth. And may sell if its PE gets bad.

calv178

MSFT is the shittiest play of the day except for the theta bois

Hussle-And-Motivate

Phil Spencer out as MSFT's gaming CEO

cantTankThisFox

MSFT has been a buy for a month and yet is still dropping.

Big-Quote4483

MSFT is a piece of shit holy fuck can it be more trash like just head down to 350 u worthlkess shit

OneTwoThreePooAndPee

MSFT owns a huge chunk of OpenAI. They are going to hell, and that's gonna hurt.

zerefdragneel1314

It’s at a good price where people that don’t have MSFT would love to start a position, but the people that already have a MSFT position would have to hold Unless you find a better opportunity somewhere else. The question is if MSFT recovers say in a year, would you have been better off in another investment? That’s your decision to make.