NVDA

RyChrome

$NVDA 19th Jan 2024 $350 Calls are $4.4k with potential payout of $20k if $NVDA hits $600 in 2 years.

RyChrome

$NVDA is a $600 stock

WorkingCorrect1062

AMZN, FB, GOOG, MSFT, ADBE, INTC, AMD, NVDA (if price corrects to more reasonable level or earnings grow)

r2002

Wage inflation will not last forever. We're building robots to drive trucks, run warehouses, lay bricks, and dig mines. NVDA even have AI that can compose music. Housing on the other hand I'm not so sure. The high cost of housing is more of a function of (bad) public policy. Local zoning laws, NIMBYism, and lack of investment in public transportation are key drivers. We could build more houses but we don't.

hardcore_softie

My boomer mom (born 1951) just started investing a little for fun last spring. I turned her onto NVDA. She bought IBM against my advice because boomer and she can't be up very much on it. She bought COP all on her own though and she's way up on that

apooroldinvestor

The stonks down 50% deserve to be down. Next the mega caps will fall. MSFT going to $50 a share I heard and NVDA going to $100 a share next month. Im gunna load up!

Cygopat

NVDA is #1 company on glassdoor lmao

Jumpy-Imagination-81

My top 10 stocks by performance are SHOP TSLA NVDA MDB TTD PAYC OKTA SEDG AMZN NOW

ankermouse11

I'd sell all ROKU at open. NVDA is insanely expensive as well but semiconductor market is pretty hot atm.

Stonk0Bonk0

With 1000 I would find a medium to small cap company personally. You reference price, but make sure to look at market cap. I’d say NVDA is more likely to double than Microsoft at these caps. If you like NVDA that much I’d personally dump it Into AMD. They are about 1/4 the cap of NVDA and there is nothing but growth ahead for chip makers. Note: Not financial advice.

nickpapa88

Talk to me more about forest fires while my NVDA stock is up 77% in less than a year and my 2070 Super graphic card is dunking on everything AMD has to offer. I love AMD, use them for my CPUs -- but you're way off here hombre.

Wodzu_gbc

Both are great. NVDA has more value right now at the current price.

Tsobaphomet

MSFT is my biggest investment by far. It can drop every day and everyone on here can tell me it's going to keep dropping forever, and I'd still confidently hold it. NVDA is great too, but idk I just like MSFT a lot more. Ironic because I hate Windows. I also notice that NVDA always drops a bit after they announce their new products. So you'd always have a drop every now and then.

szaero

NVDA is a good company but they priced in too much growth too early so I think they're going to drop before they start going up again.

cdawwgg43

I don't like Roku. I am not sure what their long term is. I don't know how how heavy their revenue is. They make money doing ads, audience analysis tools, sodtware/hardware licensing, streaming subs, and selling audience behavior metrics (everyone does this). They are doing good in the smart TV / technology integration market but they pay for it too. I'd personally cut roku and dollar cost down NVDA. Nvidia owns their technology and the value of what they do is much greater than Roku. They're the big dog in AI and datacenter HPC. Crypro miner / retail is far less of their income than their datacenter HPC DPU etc. Add in the fact that Huawei hardware disqualifies you from a large number of govt contracts, Nvidia bought Mellanox and it seems that companies are starting to become more open to SDN and network automation. You can get 100G switches for a fraction of what cisco or Juniper costs. The only alternative really is Nokia or Quanta/Quantamesh/QCT (also a good buy) since they OEM for the rest of the market too. I like Square but i'd rather have a few payment companies. Stripe is killing square right now and has a much more reliable stream focusing on businesses vs consumer transaction processing. I like the idea of owning Visa Mastercard Chase/JPM and AMEX, and some other banks that are on the banking side side. Paypal is a good company but there are a large number of payment processors process through visa to card partners like chase/JPM, CIBC, PNC and tons of of others. Visa, mastercard, amex, and a large number of other providers sell access to their gateways for application back end transaction processing. I also like banks that hold the credit cards for big box stores. CIBC for instance got the exclusive mastercard contract for all of Costco Canada. They have banks in the us and the Caribbean and are scratching and clawing for more contracts. I'm legging out of most of my portfolio. Things don't smell good. I'm kind of sounding bearish but I want to hold maybe 20% in cash so when something does happen I can really lower my DCA.

loganlp

One step ahead. YOLO’d everything into NVDA calls. Wait I’m already broke. Fuck.

mittortz

NVDA is the one I'm struggling with right now, for this very reason.

miler4salem

While both AMD and NVDA have room to fall, AMD is indeed closer to fairly valued

SockeyeSTI

NVDA is at it below it’s after split price. Great time to get in and you’ll get more shares. MSFT hasn’t had a split in a long time and is overdue. You’d get less shares right now compared to NVDA but it’s also a solid company that should split eventually, creating a situation where you could get more shares.

wangofjenus

AMD has a lot of room to grow compared to NVDA

campionesidd

This adage doesn’t hold for individual stocks. Any company can fail, we have seen 1000s of examples over the years. But the market as a whole, always recovers. BTW, NVDA is massively overvalued, but that’s not the point here.

kriptonicx

It was different in a lot of ways, but kinda similar in sentiment I guess. Back then valuations were more reasonable with most large-cap tech stocks selling at about a 30-50% discount to today's valuations. During the sell-off growth tech stocks mostly fell with the rest of the market (although slightly more aggressively) where as today investors seem to think only small-cap growth stocks should be significantly impacted by interest rates and that high PE stocks like MSFT, AAPL and NVDA are safe, which hasn't been true historically. Even bank stocks fell in 2018 where as today they're trading at their highest valuations ever. The sentiment was very similar though, at least here on Reddit. I remember people selling out of stuff that was down and creating posts about how they had made a huge mistake trying to pick stocks. Back then though people were leaving the market entirely because like I say everything was down and people didn't know where to turn. Many thought a recession was practically guaranteed and some were hoping they would be able to get back in after the recession was over, but this obviously didn't happen. Today people are less worried about a recession so perhaps this partly explains why the market overall hasn't been hit so bad. The other thing that was different was inflation and the FEDs messaging regarding hikes. I think a lot of the fear back then came from the FED suggesting that tightening would be on auto-pilot going forward. People felt the FED basically didn't care about the market and would raise rates regardless of what happens. This isn't true today, people generally think the FED is too supportive of the market if anything. We also weren't dealing with record high inflation so there was less urgency to hike back then. Today if markets throw a fit the FED has less room to back down if inflation remains high. The thing that continues to confuse me about today vs 2018 is how strong the overall market is. Given valuations I would have expected the entire market to be down more. Admittedly there has been some weakness in these names over the last couple of weeks, but I'd have thought stocks like NVDA and MSFT would be down more at this point.

LarryTalbot

Why a binary solution? I’d go 600 or 700 MSFT and the balance NVDA. Both have essential and outstanding products and services for the next stages of the information economy, but while NVDA may grow faster, MSFT will be steady up and dividend will grow.

Troyd

Yes, but NVDA is one of the top weighted S&P components. It benefits from anyone investing in the S&P, inclusive of own oerfort

Angkardian

NVDA gonna shred next coming years. Only sell if you hate money.

a_retardedasshole

Well Blowjobs are always an option, Offer at $10 per head. 200 heads, and bam 2000 Dollars. Buy NVDA calls.

rifleman209

IMO, people are buying NVDA because it’s a great performer. I assume you have no idea how to assess why their GPU are better than competitors but you probably can see people are using LinkedIn or Xbox or office products. I’d go with what you can assess

innnx

of all the overvalued companies you hold, NVDA is the only one i see making a comeback, eventually. Even if its overvalued as well

the-faded-ferret

MSFT for 5 year timeframe NVDA if it’s 5+

Appropriate_Tap_7045

I will tell this anecdote again and again lmao. I sold my NVDA right after the split in June last year, thinking I’d buy back in after a sell off. Even after this last “correction” I’d still be buying at a higher price then I sold.

Anth916

> Spy beat majority of hedge funds over last year and over 10 years is even worse... why fight it? Why fight it? Because historically, the return is more like 12 percent annually or something like that right? Why not put all your money in six different companies like GOOG, MSFT, NVDA, FB, AMD & ADBE. I think those 6 companies combined will outperform the Spy 9 out of 10 years

lexbuck

You have to understand that $1000 isn’t going to turn into $10000 anytime soon even putting it all into one stock like MSFT or NVDA. ETFs aren’t sexy but you’ll likely make a decent return and if the market corrects, it likely won’t hurt has bad in an ETF as it would in something like NVDA. You have to remember that the market doesn’t always go up and if shit hits the fan, your $1000 in one stock could very easily turn into $400 quickly. If I’m buying either MSFT or NVDA I’d go MSFT. But for me I’ve been eyeballing GOOGL as a better tech buy right now.

ModernLifelsWar

MSFT. And just as a recommendation look at AMD. NVDA is great but the valuation is still stretched. AMD is much better value and a great alternative. Or just pick up SMH or SOXX to track the entire sector.

TFWG2000

Holding NVDA since Apr 2013 same for APPL. APPL is my MSFT. I don't think you could go wrong owning any of these.

violentbydezign

NVDA.

uppya

I like NVDA, 650 billion market cap. It can easily keep growing, A.I. , Gamers, Data center, Cars, metaverse.

uppya

The minute he open his mouth on NVDA. It literally kill it. From 330 to 265 now. This guy is terrible. Same with DiDi, I would short wfc.

GhostintheSchall

NVDA is a forever hold. PYPL and SQ are undervalued IMO, but could go down further with tech stocks getting pummeled. I’m not interested in investing in ROKU. The streaming space is incredibly crowded and there’s not that much more growth to be had post-pandemic.

tysons1

Why not buy both? (I own both, but 4x more worth of NVDA). Nvda can be volatile, so if you buy it, buy and hold no matter what.

JRshoe1997

I am more referring to NVDA than SQ and PYPL.

dubhedoo

NVDA, best of the 4. Definitely dca. Sell covered calls on the rest, most aggressively on ROKU. That's probably the worst of the bunch...

paulc19802

It's relative to its historical self as most things. Stock has a PE ratio of 15 for a year then suddenly jumps to 30 without any change in fundamentals or news then it's an indicator to ask why. A lot of people obsess over it though I think. Like treat is as a fact it has to come back to norm. Sure you can say a stock is overvalued based on P/E but that's to its historical self. If you're right and it comes back to norm fair enough. But if it stays there for over a year at some point it becomes the new norm. Is it always justified at that new norm? Who cares. As long as you understand the risk and downside and make money. Plenty of people make a killing on NVDA and TSLA while all the bears constantly stamp their feet and say you should avoid them.

kelu213

How the fuck is NVDA a baghold

stk01001

Lol he’s “bagholding” NVDA at $296… how about having an investment horizon of over 6 months? I’ve been long NVDA two years and I certainly don’t feel like I’m “bagholding” .. same would go for most of the other stocks you listed.. you bought at the very top of a massive rally and now can’t handle a correction.. this is basically why most people can’t make money in the market.. people don’t have the patience to hold a stock for even 1 year let alone 5 which is the minimal time I plan to hold when I go long..

stick_shift95

NVDA purely due to growth potential.

pepemustachios

While the global chip shortage remains NVDA will trade at a premium. Once that ends it will return to normality but if they can maintain their course, earning should also increase but the PE ratio should start to look a bit more reasonable.

BearOnTheBeach28

I'm not saying it will and notice how I didn't even use PG in my response (that's not to say I think V, etc will outpace NVDA either). But again, you used two different calculations of PE, likely to try to bolster your argument. NVDA is already trading at a high valuation. They have 4B in profit but a 670B market cap. Clearly there's a lot of growth built in. When the stock price was above $300 it was pricing in even more growth. I'm heavily in indexes but the individual stocks I own are mostly tech so I'm not against growth and tech. AMD is my highest individual holding so I'm fine with the semi industry. But FCF and EPS calculations would need NVDA, a large and mature company, to perform at very high levels for several years to live up to the valuation. Again, that doesn't mean the price can't keep going up in the meantime, but might not be for everyone.

BearOnTheBeach28

That's the nature of a bubble. V and MA are value stocks regularly with a PE of 40 too. However, the big difference is COST, V, and MA have PEs around 40, NVDA is over 80. You can't use trailing PEs and then forward PEs for another and call it a fair comparison. If 40 is the new "value" then maybe 80 is growth for someone else. Now compare that to AMD and INTC with PEs of 42 and 11 respectively and I think that makes more sense in the traditional comparison.

Bayoubengalfan

80:20 MSFT to NVDA is my rec. So do the opposite and prosper

louistran_016

MSFT would return about $1500 in the next 10 years, NVDA i think around $3000 Those are not very different to ETF yields

notholdingbackcc

NVDA

Rare_Area7953

Love NVDA for long term

Reelableink9

It’s the easiest way to value companies in similar areas against each other. Ultimately revenue is what dictates a stocks performance so it’s not the worst metric. I would have used forward P/S if i had the data to incorporate rev growth. Also these are far from mature companies, they are still very much growth plays so u can’t simply compare profit margins on them. The gross margins are comparable across all 4 so reckon that’s fine. Definitely agree NVDA’s growth + margins mean it deserves a higher valuation but compared to big tech hard to argue it’s not overvalued.

Odd-Block-2998

$67B valuation makes more sense, right? NVDA should cost $27/share.

Headonapike17

I think INTC is a better value then either MSFT or NVDA right now. There’s no reason to believe any of them will be gone in 40 years. In that time, they will all have good and bad leadership, make good and bad decisions, and go up and down. They are all established companies with good moats, so the odds favor all of them doing well during your lifetime. Buy companies you believe will succeed in the long term but are currently undervalued. The tough part is realizing undervalued companies are unpopular at the moment. So you’ll be going against the crowd.

Wolfenberg

Idk how people think MSFT is a better choice. It's a shit company that works against the interests of its clients and will surely fall when there's proper competition. Same can be said for NVDA but it's not as bad IMO. Don't take my advice though, I'm not speaking strictly from an investing perspective but more so consumer experience.

aloahnoah

Why would you value mature companies by price to sales? All these companies have different profit margins in different industries, NVDA has one of the highest profit margins among big tech

HilleNL

>XLNX Why do people keep repeating this nonsense? If a stock corrects like 50% you can buy double the amount of stock. So how 'doesn't it matter' in the long run? It's a fact that NVDA is overhyped/inflated. If crypto corrects 70% like it did in 2018 NVDAs revenue probably goes down for a bit and the stock will correct..

HilleNL

NVDA is more of a gamble, forward PE is so much higher. MSFT is going nowhere for the next 30 years, so is a safe bet.

PanPirat

My best advice is to stop looking at the price movements and almost completely disregard your unrealized gains and losses. I think that for a retail investor, the best approach is to invest in quality companies with high ROE, a significant moat, a great business model, growth opportunity, consistent growth and reasonable financials - low leverage, enough cash on hand, cash flow, etc. No company will ever be perfect in all these factors and check all the boxes, but you can pick a few that have most of these strengths and a few weaknesses and check a variety of the boxes. Evaluate a business and where you think they might be headed based on their track record (note: I don't mean the history of stock price, but the track record of the business), leadership, and industry trends. Don't ignore the stock price completely, but generally, ignore the short term movements. You won't be able to consistently predict short term performance, but you might be able to pick companies that will grow in 10, 15 years. You will pick winners and losers, but just a few home-runs can greatly compensate those losers. Now, wrt to the stocks you mentioned - I'm not going to give you advice on these specific companies (though I hold SQ and have been interested in NVDA, for full disclosure), but your entry price is almost entirely irrelevant (other than tax purposes), don't decide based on that. If you think these companies at these price levels give you a better opportunity than the rest of the market, don't sell, perhaps even buy more (but ideally, keep your portfolio diversified enough). If you don't, sell. How much you've already lost doesn't change anything, what's important is what happens to the money you still have now.

halfborncalf

NVDA are well overvalued and volatile atm...definitely stick with MSFT

SnipahShot

Meh, I wouldn't invest in NVDA right now no matter what. Out of these two, MSFT without a doubt. AMD and INTC are a better investment than NVDA at this moment.

Reelableink9

In the 2000 crash cisco's P/S went from a top of 36.8 to a low of 3.9 and sits at 5.1 currently. The P/S of the other stocks NVDA: 27.7 (expensive), SQ: 3.7 and PYPL: 8.5. Even if those businesses execute as badly as cisco both except NVDA arent that overvalued atm.

FiboPI

NVDA is overvalued for now, wait for it to come down. MSFT is a great company but generally I wouldn't buy a stock at ATH. 1000$ into MSFT won't grow too much. Learn how to analyse businesses and work with stocks that have a market cap of under 10 billion dollars. These are the high flyers if you can actually spot a good company. Remember, BALANCE SHEET BALANCE SHEET AND BALANCE SHEETS. If company produces nothing or next to nothing, forget about it.

Traditional_Good4693

What is the fair value for NVDA ? Have you done any raw data analysis?

josh198989

I really like $LAC as a long term play, lithium production being brought back to NA and the demand for Lithium will increase exponentially in the coming years. If you have a bigger risk tolerance go with something like this or from your two NVDA (but maybe wait for a lower buy point). MSFT is as safe an equity investment as you can get. Low risk / low reward.

remrinds

Started investing in stocks last week. This is my current portfolio. Am planning to hold on to these for at least the next 15 years. AAPL - 37% MSFT - 16% NVDA - 13% COST - 11% UNH - 11% VOO - 12%

Brewskwondo

What do the charts tell you? Don’t sell just because you’re down. Sell because the chart says it will go lower. Hold if you don’t care, you’ve done your research, read the 10Q and feel like it’s a great LT hold. I bought NVDA at $180, should I sell now? I’m not because I think it’s a great company. If it drops to $250 I still won’t sell. The only reason you’re thinking of it is because you’re below your purchase price.

guachi01

MSFT. NVDA is probably overpriced at its current price more than MSFT is.

ManofWordsMany

>ROKU bought at $260, PYPL at $230, SQ at $180, and NVDA at $297 Your cost basis has nothing to do with whether or not you should continue holding a position. Do you think these stocks have a future? Did the fundamentals stay the same? Is the level of risk on your holdings acceptable? Are they uncorrelated? Has your time horizon stayed the same? If you answered yes to all of these then there is nothing further to consider. If anything other than the first two questions is a no then you may want to change things up but you don't have to.

StayedWalnut

Fb has a huge regulatory risk. I own and love my quest 2 but I really don't believe FB will be the ones that give us the snowcrash metaverse. I do take your points on valuation, but when it comes to ai, graphics or crypto loads, NVDA is gold and everything else is silver at best.

Anth916

Wait for a bigger correction. 2022 will have several bad corrections that will be nice time to buy either of these stocks. You could buy either one of them now, and sell once they have a 10 percent pop (especially NVDA). Then sell and wait for the next correction. Rinse and repeat. Just try to get four 10 percent pops this year for it (40%)

StayedWalnut

In all of the categories mentioned above, their graphics cards are number 1 to do those thing and all of those industry applications are in only growing markets. AI in particular is exploding. Even ignoring the gaming applications which is their bread and butter, ai is a market space that is easily a 10x in the next few years. Tldr; if you believe ai is the biggest growing space in computing, you want NVDA.

Anth916

Quick comment on NVDA. If the market has 3 or 4 consecutive green days, you might be able to get out of that bag. It would be the easiest bag for you to get out of, of the 4. Of course, NVDA isn't really a bag, it's just your entry doesn't look good because of the recent correction. Stock will continue to be choppy, so getting out of NVDA at $297 on a rally, and then getting back in around $265 might be the better course of action. Everybody's telling you to dump ROKU, but man, you'd take a massive loss by dumping at these prices. I'd try to just hold it until it's in the low 200's again and then bail. If PYPL flirts with the low $170's again, maybe add some more and try to get your cost basis down to around $200 per share. For example, let's say PYPL hit $173.75. How many shares of PYPL do you need to buy at that price, to lower your overall PYPL cost basis to $200 per share? They key with PYPL is going to be some patience though. But it still might make sense to see if you can lower your CB without needing to add a ton of shares. I don't really have any real opinion on Square. I'd maybe add enough shares in the low $130's, to try to get your CB down to $165 and then just hold.

drew-gen-x

Diversify. If you believe in the stocks you bought than hold them. But put new capital to other sectors. Right now dividend stocks are running. I mean AT&T was down 30% for the year at one point in 2021. Now it's up 20% in about a month. The hope is to have AT&T or $KO run when $NVDA or $PLTR is down and vice versa. But being all in on one sector is so dangerous since many of those stocks trade with the same momentum. I lost over 70% of my portfolio in 2007 being way too leveraged in commodity stocks which were the SPACs / volatile tech stocks of 2005-2008. Some of those stocks have never recovered even in 2022. And you have NO IDEA where the true bottom is at. Tech may rebound Tuesday, or in March or in the year 2024. And if $AMD for example is running and is up 50% it isn't a bad idea to sell 10% and buy a stock in an another sector that is down like $CAT for example.

skiwee13

NVDA to $300 by next Friday?

Kickboy21

NVDA. Send me a thank you check later 

TendyCrusader

Yeah got in AMD way earlier than NVDA at 70-80/share and continue to buy dips. Missed NVDA pretty hard but still looking to buy dips and hold long term.

moldyjellybean

If you do sell winners do it in small increments and never sell it all. 2% 4% 6% until you get to bigger numbers you’re selling 20% but always keep about 30% I bought AMD at 1.80 and NVDA and sold some AMD at $10, 20 30, 40, 50, 60 70 80 etc. my mistake was selling too much too much at $30-40

TendyCrusader

Hold NVDA and lower cost basis on dips

ekaqu1028

I put MSFT higher than NVDA. At the moment both are expensive, but MSFT is less so (PEG of 2.82 vs 3.88). MSFT also has several good business under its belt and a good history of adapting with the current CEO. NVDA has interesting opportunities in mobile and data center CPUs, but the biggest players are also investing to build their own CPUs; their revenue from cryptocurrency projects is also expected to shrink as everyone is switching to proof-of-stake, so no one will need GPUs for mining in a few years…. I am bullish on both, but more so MSFT

MinnesotaPower

Someone posted last week with a portfolio that was just MSFT, AAPL, NVDA, VTI, and BTC. I've been trying to think of a portfolio that could beat it ever since, and have not been able to.

Vast_Cricket

It is hard to achieve 25-40% rtn in 2021 unless you just bought Tesla, NVDA. Those who owned Voo got lucky but forecast for 2022, they are expect ing a mere +7.5% rtn not +27.8%.

Coturier_is_a_Righty

The way I trade is a bit different, 5DTE or less on mostly SPY, AAPL, NVDA, and some other caps of that size, intraday only. I prepare a bull and bear scenario for each with support and resistance marked and play breakouts or breakdowns either way

Fleetwoodcrack69

MSFT 100% long NVDA 100% if you trading short term not investing

Mysterious_Will3680

You’re definitely not bagholding NVDA, semi conductors are still very hot and will be for the next year at least.