NVDA

Dry-Fold-9664

Ive gotten soo much shit done over the past few days Ive almost forgot how much Ive lost the past few weeks. Two oil changes knocked out, engine and cabin air filter replaced, truck completely cleaned up. Fixed a dent and a fucked to wheel. Great distractions from my shit NVDA calls.

mustang_67_2k8

Soooo puts on NVDA?

Fine_Specialists

#NVDA GANB Members checking in

ai-moderator

#TLDR --- Ticker: SOUN Direction: Up Prognosis: The dip is a gift. Big money is buying while retail is panic selling. This is the future of AI and the CEO was mentored by NVDA's CEO. Load up for the long term. Price Target: $30 by EOY 2026, triple digits eventually. Author's State: A tad high.

daviddjg0033

I bought shares -it was one of my first investments. I have added to the position. Because I owned NVDA at times I would trim. After a spectacular ER a year ago I sold Lennar to buy more Broadcom. I am biased- I even wrote a post long ago where I bought call options on the stock when it had a 3% yield. Lately I sold into strength. If you are playing with house money you care less. I will always keep shares I bought long ago. My first positions were TSLA, AVGO, LEN, BRK and bitcoin. I own no Tesla right now but I own it through ETFs.

KittenMcnugget123

NVDA is, but Burry was talking about the buyers. Same applies though, if you arent buying the best chips you fall behind. Then again, if they aren't generating much revenue and the cap ex outlay is huge, maybe thats not as a big a deal as people think. Hard to say right now obviously

ArtistJazzlike7303

all i know about these certain companies is there play in future technologies. IMSR and SMR have a part in the development thorium reactors GOOGL since they have a part in the development of fusion energy IONQ and MSFT due to their play in quantum computing  BTC for a crypto investment and solana because i want to invest in the meme coin market but I don't want the huge risk that comes with it. CVX to invest in hydrogen becoming a potential fuel source. GXO due to their play in logistics and  I felt like investing in a logistics company with tariffs going on could be a wise choice. PLTR and NVDA due to their play in AI im investing for the long term and i feel like investing in these companies working towards future technologies would be a wise decision, and honestly i would love to speak to a professional about this to get their insight so i could improve.

SamtenLhari3

That is why I am sold on NVDA. It is a great company. You invest in the people — not the product.

pressurechicken

NVDA is still up over 30% YTD lol.

fn_gpsguy

I wouldn’t pick NVDA, since it’s the top holding in VOO at about 8% of assets.

Mountain_Snow3613

Single most outlandish company valuation in the market ever? Tesla p/e is 261, palantir is a 362 p/e. NVDA current p/e is a 44 and they're growing net profit at 65% yoy. Apple is at 37 p/e and they're growing net profit at 9% yoy. Not that outlandish when you really lay the numbers out.

skilliard7

>Based on the fact that their chips from 3 years ago are still being utilized to 100% capacity due to NVDA software integration (at least according to them), I would say this worry is probably overstated. Older chips like A100's and H100s are leasing for more than 50% less than they leased for a year ago

frogboyjr

just buy any NVDA dip, always works

RoyalFail6

I need NVDA back around 204 to see profits, so I’m pumped 🥴

zztop610

NVDA to the mooooooon baby

KittenMcnugget123

The only thing is that they arent useless after that point, so how big that depreciation issue is is debateable. NVDA said their chips from 2022 are still running at full capacity now because of its CUDA software. So who knows for sure, but Burry is obviously contending its too long and is artificially boosting earnings for the mag 7

RoyalFail6

NVDA got the government contracts on lock, so buy both NVDA and GOOGL 😪

RoyalFail6

My NVDA 200c bags are so heavy 🫩

niofalpha

I was drunk day trading Friday and thought my NVDA calls were 10x as much as they were Well I guess I’m making a few grand…

E39_CBX

Believe it or not, NVDA 220 EOY

ThatGuyFrmBoston

AI Bubble is cancelled .. CALLS on NVDA & AMD

LargeSinkholesInNYC

NBIS is a falling knife. I really would buy NVDA instead at this moment.

kwijibokwijibo

NVDA and google are the shovel sellers of the gold rush They're saying the gold itself isn't worth as much as expected That said, I fucking love my shovel stocks. They're keeping my portfolio afloat

zztop610

Let’s print NVDA

Machine8851

NVDA is bound to rally soon

Competitive_Crow_802

Some people would blame NVDA's max pain from the option chain which was $180.  

virtual_adam

This article is from Wednesday. It didn’t help OKLO, NVDA and other break even for the week. I think it’s still YMMV of any money coming their way as a result

LargeSinkholesInNYC

Don't invest in them until NVDA makes an all-time high. Momentum is a powerful thing.

ixvst01

It most certainly affects stocks. Who's going to buy the products and services from companies if everyone is unemployed and has no money? AI is short term bullish. I'm heavily invested in SOXX, QQQ, AMD, NVDA, etc. like everyone else here. I make money when AI drives the market up, but I also think long term if AI reaches a point where it can replace most jobs, then it could be devastating for the stock market. Consumers with no job have no money to buy stuff, which means companies have no customers and earnings go down.

brucekeller

!banbet NVDA 222.22 666h

ArganMurker

you are Legend ! look at bitcoin - NVDA going to Short Squeeze come 4AM Monday !

brucekeller

!banbet NVDA 240 42.069d

barelysmash

I’m with you. I sold 1/2 my tech stocks on Halloween. Bought 2x inverse shorts on NVDA and $170 11/28 puts at $1.4. Earnings came out Wednesday and it jumped to $197 — my puts crashed. Bought more puts at $0.37 Thursday morning. $197 collapsed to $173. Sold puts Friday morning for $4.22 plus the inverse shorts and immediately bought NVDA at $173.5.

Usual_Nerve3503

NVDA/Google are raking in cash. Whats your thesis here, short Google? I mean, by all means I hope the shit "were AI!" crap companies with absurd valuations get destroyed. But the big players? Filthy with profit from the AI boom. And I am not betting that extremely smart people moving billions of dollars around in google with investments don't know what theyre doing - I ain't going short on NVDA/GOOG.

Goldenstate_Korea

The problem is not NVDA. It is the weak companies borrowing so much to over their limits to build Ai infrastructure. Once these weak companies run out of money, we could see credit issues

Wooden-Broccoli-913

If you’re referring to Vertiv, it has a higher PE than NVDA. Don’t think anyone is sleeping on the picks and shovels here

Usual_Nerve3503

NVDA beat earnings. Google beat earnings. It's already beating the "returns that shareholders were expecting"

Usual_Nerve3503

Berkshire Buffet & his crew know more then people on WSB. Way more. Google smashed earnings. NVDA beat earnings (WHICH WERE IN-FUCKING-SANE TO BEGIN WITH). If google says the demand is there, you better believe I'm buying every NVDA share I can. Doubling theyre AI capacity every 6 months? Thats so many data centers, an insane amount of NVDA Blackwell chips. It doesn't matter if "AI isn't making money" like wallstreet is crying (not going to be true, google aint doing this for shits and grins) -- NVDA is making a FUCKLOAD of MONNEEEYYYYYYY

Turbulent_Shame_3969

Lol, NVDA is getting paid with IOUs ( "accounts receivable "). Of course they have high demand! What could possibly go wrong?

0K-go

I just got a targeted ad advising me to sell NVDA and AMZN. So uncomfortable. This is what I get for using Reddit’s app instead of an alternate to filter out the ads.

Shot-Ground-9898

People saying bubble are just regarded when companies like meta, AMZN and googl are trading at super reasonable pe. I mean lol May META. Does this shit look like s bubble? Hell no. Big money just puts this sht on airwaves to drive the narrative. NVDA is going to hope on edge computing in the future this company is going to be a monster 

option-trader

I see the Cisco meme has moved from NVDA to GOOG. NVDA's ttm p/e at 45 is closer to Cisco's 190 than GOOG, but both are not even close to Cisco's 2000 price. I wouldn't mind seeing NVDA at $767 or GOOG at $1,924 per share just to reach Cisco's 190 p/e.

lipmanz

NVDA never even got close to CSCOs dotcom 400 PE ratio…some bubble

E39_CBX

Is this even a big deal or more taco shit? NVDA even going to react?

KittyLover-7

Me and my calls patiently waiting for that mango NVDA China approval Get a move on grandpa, we ain’t got all year

WorkingGuy99percent

It’s not about useful life, it’s about depreciation. Basically the chips loose 20% of original cost per year, so a five year to zero value. Meaning they can’t sell it for any money. Makes their assets versus liabilities look good if 5 years to zero instead of less. They can still earn money for up to 10 years, supposedly. However, they are starting to say that the rate to zero is far less than 5 years, and maybe as short as 2 years if performance gains are 1000x every year. Basically the overall value of companies assets could be greatly reduced. All these companies spending billions on chips may not be able to keep spending I guess, so their value is less because their assets are worth less quicker and I guess they are saying spending in NVDA chips will slow. I don’t buy the affect to NVDA though…as their chips start going into cars and robots, they will keep selling billions of dollars worth of GPUs.

0o0o0o0o0o0z

> It’s not companies, it’s sentiment in the US. ^ ----- 100% this. I had made a bet that PLNT, NVDA would crush earnings and I was right, but it still didnt pay off -- *INSERT SADFACE*

moldyjellybean

Generally this is true but I’ve been doing that. Every OpenAI/NVDA announcement has been a pump and dump. Look at ORCL, AMD, AMZN, NOK, QCOM and every other announcement every time it’s like a 30% pop which isn’t sustainable.

dokka_doc

MSFT's yearly EPS is $13.70. Their share price is $472. They're trading at a multiple of 34.5x EPS. MSFT's PE is 33.6. NVDA, which some people are starting to consider overvalued and fueling a bubble, has a PE of 44.3. PLTR's yearly EPS is $0.47. Their share price is 155. They're trading at a multiple of 330x EPS. PLTR's PE is 360. PLTR is wildly overvalued, unless they can deliver world changing growth. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PLTR/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PLTR/) [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/) [https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/PLTR/palantir-technologies/eps-earnings-per-share-diluted](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/PLTR/palantir-technologies/eps-earnings-per-share-diluted) [https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/MSFT/microsoft/eps-earnings-per-share-diluted](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/MSFT/microsoft/eps-earnings-per-share-diluted)

E39_CBX

NVDA please. PLEASE

josephgunit

AVGO will take NVDA’s place

Riskismyapellido

ok. Then let's take 10 years. NVDA is a crazy outlier. Just like BTC. But in another note: It doesn't matter that NVDA outperformed BTC. BOTH were/are tremendous investments. So just do both: My conviction plays over the medium to long term horizon (12-36 Months): GOOG, RBRK, ZS, TXN, BTC

______deleted__

>I’m not arguing Google doesn’t make money. I think we’re on the same page, the rest doesn’t really matter because all I care is they make money now and invest in their future to make more money later. If you think it’s dumb shit, I hope more people think that way too. Bad sentiment is good for a good company, prevents large volatility swings and bubbles like we see in NVDA, TSLA, AMD, etc. I don’t see investing into dumb shit that will be profitable in the future as poor money management for a company that has to keep up with the latest tech. To you, it’s AI slop, to the younger kids, it’s new and interesting - it’ll get clicks, get ad money. That’s all that matters.

Fentois-42069-Beauf

VIX expiration and NVDA volatility draining out of the options.

Happy_Discussion_536

You're way overthinking it man. They're going to turn on the printer very soon. Tech and AI will be the biggest winners. Also high quality growth stocks that scale with inflation. >Steve Liesman: if you stop the runoff now, does that mean you have to go back to actually adding assets sometime next year so that the balance sheet doesn't shrink as a percent of GDP? >Powell: So you're right. The the place we'll be on December 1 is that the size of the balance sheet is frozen.... And because the size of the balance sheet is frozen, you have further shrinkage in reserves. And reserves is the thing that we're managing that has to be ample. So that'll happen for a time but not a tremendously long time. We don't know exactly how long but at a certain point you'll want to start to grow reserves, to start gradually growing to keep up with you know the size of the banking system and the size of the economy. Last year GOOGL was supposedly a headless chicken doomed to lose the AI wars and go bankrupt. This year GOOGL is going to destroy everyone else and NVDA is fucked due to OpenAI. Both are going to do fantastic.

_BreakingGood_

Oh it's all a sham then, sell it all and buy NVDA

Minute_Tune_6461

I’m selling VTI and buying dips on PLTR NVDA AMZN META AMD

Glad-View-5566

So Google just becomes skynet and they make their own chips, so everyone saying AI will change the world and isn’t a bubble, that’s true. But all the fuckery with OpenAI and NVDA is most certainly one.

spyputs1

The porn guy ain’t paying the bills, they keep investing trillions in chips yet there’s barely any revenue because the capabilities are not living up to the hype, they are giving the shit away for free and the demand for the free product is like warm at best. Eventually the private credit folks will stop buying the bonds to keep financing a product that doesn’t return revenue. They are reaching into the debt market using the chips as collateral, if newer more resource efficient AI models show up the whole demand for more chips craters (I don’t need more chips than I currently have to get the same output, NVDA goes from growing earnings 60% every quarter to more stable growth 5-10% annually) The deck is clearly stacked against the AI LLMs/hyperscalers until they have a product that is actually useful and profitable (outside of shitty ai articles and disfigured pictures with 8 fingers and weird eyes)

E39_CBX

Guys if NVDA doesn’t hit 195 this week Christmas is cancelled

Sensitive-Radish-292

I never touched the technical side of Intel's tech vs NVDA tech. The issue is not in the hardware, it's in the software. You can definitely find great Inference/GPU chips that can beat NVDA, but the problem is in the software. 20 years of working with CUDA and NVIDIA will always be your first pick. That's why I don't argue using hardware specs. I instead focus on the business side. The foundry business is positioned amazingly to dominate, Intel doesn't have to design the chip from the ground up, it can take existing nodes from customers and upgrade them - that's the main point I'm trying to make and that's why I mention the packaging as the main talking point at the top. Other than that, I can also confirm one thing - Lip-Bu Tan is putting heavy focus on software development. They are planning to try and take the GPU space. As to your comments about the GPUs - it's a bit more complicated. First and foremost you'll always have to work with registers... the moment you move out from the on-chip memory itself you'll suffer from speed drawbacks. That's why these GPUs you see are used for inference mainly, where this isn't much of an issue and instead you need more RAM in general. With GPUs you'll always have multiple layers of memory... On chip (local registers) <--- this one is the most important and can be improved with low nm tech on chip shared memory caches on-board memory etc... I think you overly simplified your thesis here, other than that I do agree

The_Brand94

I can explain it layman’s terms, when you think about your computer, router, or modem, I spend a lot of money to get the newest and best now with the goal that I get a longer useful life out it. Which to me makes sense because why would I buy something that will be sort of a middle of the road approach, fine and cheap for now and then in a year, I experience slow downs. I hate that and also learned my lesson to just buy the newest and best when the older equipment starts to slow down or malfunction (eg lag, connection interruptions, can’t update to newest OS based on hardware limitations) NVDA cited that their hardware is getting better at their useful life expectancy. NVDA hasn’t reached iPhone status, but it’s getting there.. but they also have the money to hire the best and produce the best possible product on the market. It’s not a bubble (to me), but everyone’s afraid of something already exists. However from a market perspective, there are a lot of companies in the space that ran up on hype and they do deserve a beat down. However, there are some which do not. It’s not a bubble, but overpriced tech companies (looking at you quantum and Palantir) that don’t in any reality deserve to be trading at such elevated multiples.

F705TY

Google uses it's own TPUs. As far as I know NVDA might be cut out of this one.

Real-Hat-6749

So, calls on NVDA?

KittenMcnugget123

Sure, but that wasn't his question. His question was why is a shorter lifespan for chips bad for earnings of NVDA. It's not bad for NVDA earnings, it's that the companies misstating the depreciation are overstating their earnings. Assuming you think the usable life is actuslly 3 years and not 5 or 6. Based on the fact that their chips from 3 years ago are still being utilized to 100% capacity due to NVDA software integration (at least according to them), I would say this worry is probably overstated. Burry's point about the stock based comp dilution is much more relevant for NVDA imo.

Plus_Seesaw2023

Why not ?!? The same people said the same thing about BTC when it was at $45,000!!! The same people also said the same thing about NVDA when the stock was at $50! The same people said the same thing about TSM at $80. MSTR will return to its ATH sooner or later, just as BTC always has...

Plus_Seesaw2023

Exactly. And people are throwing trillions at NVDA, ORCL, and OpenAI like it’s a magic money printer, while households end up paying for the grid upgrades their servers guzzle. Mega-corporation-funded utopia? More like a bubble powered by our bills. NB. This guy took calls on MSTR. He should have just bought some BTC or ETH and gone on vacation. Because sooner or later... we all know how the story ends...

Liteboyy

Algos isn’t what happened on Thursday. Bank of Japan announced potential rate hikes on the Yen. This is a macro shock because the Yen is the carry fund currency of the world. So big money was selling investments tied to the Yen. But the Market was in a negative gamma environment because of NVDA. So when the buyers left because of the news and big money initiated selling, the MMs sold *into* the dump to hedge. That’s why we had such a big drop. Has nothing to do with AI bubble, hedge funds rugging us, or manipulating shit to screw retail over. It wasn’t a correction blah blah blah. It was a macro shock when the MMs were negative gamma. Makes perfect sense.

Inevitable_Butthole

Yeah and OP is just fantasizing NBIS because he owns shares. It's like betting on AMD in 2019 instead of NVDA. They'll both be winners but one more so. Coreweave has the actual power, hardware, capacity and customers. Plus, they are scaling rapidly and about to become profitable.

Which-College5322

both seem undervalued compared to NVDA's crazy run, didn't think to check polymarket

Sensitive-Radish-292

I'm long on Intel, thesis is about Intel - I did mention that I bought puts on AMD and rolled them, and yes. I do believe that AMD is extremely overvalued and I personally don't care about some analysts opinion. Most analysts update their PTs right after a big jump or a big dump - and a lot of these analysts cover multiple sectors - they don't specialize on one single sector and they don't analyze that sector from a broad macroeconomic perspective. If they would, they would know that INTC is a key player that is about to breakout. While I bought into INTC the moment Lip-Bu Tan rumors surfaced, doubled down before NVDA investment and doubled down further during the bear market after I researched Lip-Bu Tan's connections. Guess when the analysts updated their price targets? After INTC doubled, before that most of them were hold/sell with PT 18. But be my guest and listen to analysts. It's not AMZN not being able to rent out... there is no demand from current lead engineers/researchers. Everyone is used to NVIDIA/CUDA. Even I had to work with CUDA (and I tried working with ATI cards btw) when I was studying. If you're counting on AMD being saved by OpenAI then good luck, considering the last leaked memo showed how well "OpenAI" is doing. Be my guest, bet on AMD.

Beboopbeepboopbop

Yea dude who cares everyone else. NVDA has a monopoly on chips. Keep buying 🤙

trulyhighlyregarded

Explain why Gemini 3 didn't tank NVDA

Machine8851

NVDA as I think it will bounce soon

KittyLover-7

JP Morgan estimates that Nvidia's $NVDA Rubin Ultra NVL576 rack will cost $35 million. Zuckerberg shaking like a coke addict getting ready to blow everything on Rubin 😂

Machine8851

Its only a matter of time NVDA is going to rally

UndergroundHQ6

To be honest I don’t even know. I went to buy puts on AMD and was sticker shocked by the price lmao. If I had to guess, I’d say the recent AI bubble worries, burry/thiel/softbank exit from NVDA probably just put a high IV blanket over all of tech 2 months ago I told myself I should take a break from day trading and just full port QQQ 700 Jan exp and just keep my head down for the holidays. Thank god I never pulled that trigger lol

Darnaldo

This is so wrong on many levels. MM makes money by bringing liquidity to the market and staying delta neutral. This is why they are called market MAKER. The overwhelming consensus on NVDA earning was a beat. The prediction market was pricing in a 90% chance of beating the forecast, and most people were in a long position. All the 0DTE would have already been worthless since the IV on NVDA was around 8% at the time when the actual move was something around 5%. They would all have been IV crushed. This is the actual reason for the dumping: https://x.com/BSignals42581/status/1991659963047944288?t=T0b3EKtHVI83Qn1VdLEAzg&s=19

sell-my-information

it was algos flagging increasing inventories and accounts receivable as sus on NVDA. Nothing to do with MM’s but nice try

Darnaldo

This guy explained in a few words why it crashed this day. https://x.com/BSignals42581/status/1991659963047944288?t=T0b3EKtHVI83Qn1VdLEAzg&s=19 It's a mix of NVDA earning being deceitful, MM positioning, and huge priority position.

sun_not_cold

AAPL AMZN GOOGL MSFT NVDA COST SPY Im old.

Country-Joe

Buy as many NVDA puts as you can afford. Make them short dated too.

FullCopy

If Gemini is using Google’s chip, more incoming NVDA puts.

FullCopy

Tiried Gemini 3. Open AI and NVDA are cooked.

Hungry-Brain-3287

No, they do actually run with the TPUs. The NVDA buys are purely for the Google Cloud stuff (was what I read)

Ascorbinium_Romanum

I'm sure I read that Gemini was trained using tpus but I guess it might be running on NVDA chips for redundancy/ cost cutting (they can always use any leftover compute from GDP) in inference?

elbay

No buddy if the demand of these drugs were solely up to healthcare professionals that can make informed decisions, there wouldn’t be this gap. Your AMD NVDA example doesn’t make sense here, because in that case the people deciding are very well informed and can do the math on it. Here “customers” aren’t informed. Therefore it is marketing.

SamtenLhari3

I hear you. Put another way, they are projecting the monetization of an emerging technology and not including the replacement cost of new chips necessary to stay competitive. On the plus side, if fact that new chips are necessary it likely means that there is demand in an expanding market for AI. On the downside, early investors are likely to be diluted as more money has to be raised for capex for new chips. Either way, if they are right about new chips being needed, it is not a problem for NVDA (except for NVDA’s investments in data center businesses). In fact, obsolescence is a plus for NVDA. In other words, NVDA stock is not overvalued based on this fact (if it is a fact).

AMadWalrus

I knew you’d go on some medical tirade because you said you were a doctor earlier. You may understand medicine but you don’t understand the market, which is what my original comment was alluding to. AMD will work just as well for 99% of use cases compared to NVDA but NVDA is worth $5Tn while AMD is worth $300Bn. Institutions understand the difference between “good enough” and “the best” and medicine is no exception. So again, it isn’t simply a marketing thing. You’re simply speaking about your feelings about how the stock price is unfair, despite not having an understanding of how “good enough” versus “the best” affects the market.

modder9

I’d love to read about it. Point me in the right direction? To be clear, I think NVDA is overvalued af, but I’ve only looked into the alternatives Huawei is working on.

Houseofglass26

all companies regardless of net worth are subject to idiosyncratic risk. NVDA can go bankrupt, it’s just not very likely, and to say that it can never go back to 90 just not true

Inevitable_Butthole

Rookie It was because the macro releases that morning reinforced that rates are likely not being dropped again this year. NVDA had great earnings and it was successfully uplifting the market till the macros released, then everything sold off, starting with algos

darknessfinder

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnBLqv3aHz4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnBLqv3aHz4) this guy explained kinda good what was a problem with NVDA earnings.

modder9

Google uses AVGO designed chips made by TSMC. I’m admittedly unfamiliar with AMD’s AI game. I’ve wanted them to step up and dethrone Intel/NVDA forever, but the closest they did was threaten Intel in everything except single thread performance.

GottaHustle_999

Are you selling CC on NVDA at they same $190 price

CoverThat7433

They also said the same thing back then about gaming. But people are still getting back to NVDA after all

EventHorizonbyGA

There are many algorithms operating. And they do different things. There are many pools of where algorithmic transactions are happening. There are many ways to get into and out of positions, order types, via options, etc. In general, *market making* algorithms are market neutral. They aren't moving the market they are reacting to it. They way they react can exasperate a move but the move direction is not caused by a program. It's caused by humans deciding or not to participate at any given moment. At the end of the trading day they want to hold no positions and to have made a small amount providing liquidity. You are not only over simplifying your basic assumptions are false. There is no intent. The programs that run the market are not understood by the people who wrote them at the level you are asking either. This is how it works. Write some math. Write some code. Backtest it. Perform small sample A/B testing vs the current version. If it's better, switch and start running B vs. A. Most of the algorithms are learning programs. Once they are turned on as long as they make money how they adapt to do that no one really knows. "Was day after NVDA double beat and elation is very high, many bulls trapped up at the top - I get all of that." - That is false. NVDA released earnings and the following morning the payroll data came out. When this data came out humans became more nervous about rate cuts. If you really want to try you are going to have write code yourself. Not code that tries and predict a stock price but code that reacts to the market itself. Like one of our bots. [https://x.com/GravityAnalyti1/status/1367316172174155776](https://x.com/GravityAnalyti1/status/1367316172174155776)

illinformed-will

Not sure about the 'trillions of dollars impossible to predict'. When NVDA alone wipe $500 B in 2 weeks, add other mag7 and top10 QQQ and it is trillions $ wiped in a day or 2 of sharp drop. When you look at all those stocks charts in broad market big moves (pump or dump), they're perfectly indentical, meaning all algos are tuned to the same presets and trade in 'harmony'. A part of that is they trade in 'basket' yes. But the baskets explanation is not enough, the 2 past days for example gold was in harmony with QQQ stocks wich don't make sense only by the basket/sector approach. So it's not one actor that rug pull, but coordinated rug pull from biggest actors algos doing the same thing at the same time. Algos run autonomously on millisecs trades, but the preset and tuning is done by humans. Same people own and control the narrative via news. So no tinfoil hat but retails (individuals and those who give their money to funds like life insurance) are just liquidity for institutions and big funds i guess. Options liquidity also comes alot from retail. Like you i try to understand, for now i just get that the moves are coordinated and not randoms. How they're determined is another story. Riding with the wave and avoiding bull/bear traps is the only way to make money as a individual trader.

Fishherr

Okay this is what really happened. The MM had to push NVDA to $200 for the $200 Friday Call strikes to go INTM before Friday EXP. The MM failed to do so, so the IV crush on all those OI contracts sent those positions into losses. Instead of trying to hold out, people would close early to minimize profit losses in a negative GEX environment. Or get stop lossed out. The double edge sword of that is, since all those calls bleed out at a loss, the MM has to buy that back as shorts as the $200 Zone acts as resistance. Now you’re under $180 close going into op-ex and that’ll act as resistance now as well, until proven otherwise. So you have a bearish divergence.

modder9

What competition? Huawei chips are already banned in US. China has the power infrastructure and soon to have the chips to be the world’s AI datacenter. A lot of the demand for NVDA chips is because they never stopped being illegally exported to China. It will be a rough quarter when China stops buying through their neighbors and starts using the domestic Huawei chips.