NVDA

Xelonima

AI could be great for the demise of neoliberal capitalism, because big ass companies can dissolve into smaller ones utilizing AI, sort of like petit bourgeoisie But for that we need to get rid of the AI monopoly first, which will happen sooner or later (that would be bearish for NVDA though)

skypnooo

NVDA has many technical problems to navigate now, which is why their exec team is starting to panic. GPUs are the equivalent of a Swiss army knife for many types of AI/ML training, where as TPUs are a precision tool for LLMs (which underpins most AGI efforts). NVDA is focused on more performance per token, where GOOG is more focused on token and context window optimization. NVDA, even when increasing performance to power ratios, is not solving the power supply challenge, whereas Google is investing in micro reactors. My prediction NVDA will fall off a cliff in late 26/early 27 when the market realizes there is not enough power in the world to achieve AGI using GPUs using NVDA's tech or anyone else's for that matter...

favicocool

> NVIDIA GPU: Training, inference, graphics, scientific computing – almost everything. It's CUDA + ecosystem: every AI/ML engineer and infra relies on it. AI apps, data centers and inference demand still makes NVIDIA hold its position. Isn’t all of the revenue in the inference and training use-cases though? Which, as you mentioned, TPUs are applicable to? That’s a sincere question, I’m not an NVDA investor - I couldn’t tell you off the top of my head what percentage of NVIDIA revenue is datacenter (inference and training) but I suspect it’s a large majority. I’m curious to know now, actually…

tugrulthelol

Are you holding NVDA or GOOG, I can't tell from your bot posts

Brilliant-Repeat-178

Not a conspiracy lol, just being realistic here and perhaps a bit bullish, which is justified if u consider a few things. NVDA sitting under 250 is cheap when u realize they still have a full-blown monopoly on AI compute and nothing comes close, CUDA keeps everyone locked in, and Google isn’t a real threat as everyone says it is, switching off CUDA is a nightmare and google software stack is weak and new compared to decades of RnD by NVIDIA. This whole downturn (imo) is just some profit taking and big players pushing the price down so they can load up at a discount after the crazy run it had. It’s not over, it’s just cooling off before the next leg up, especially with Vera Rubin coming which wipes the floor with anything Google or AMD has.

Happy-Champion1661

it will for sure, I just wanted to buy the dip of tech and I thought it was the bottom (it wasn't, but it's still way up from there). But then I saw GOOGL kept holding/going up the NVDA earnings week, so I just jumped into it and it paid

dont_downvote_SPECIL

Nvidia's market share goes from 85% to 75% because the tight supply chain and NVDA’s scale advantages make it tougher to “steal” too much share since not enough components are available in the near/medium term and hence share changes if any are likely to be gradual in nature. Custom chips can be lower-cost for a specific range of internal workloads that might suit customers with large internal workloads such as Google and perhaps Meta. However they are less useful in a public cloud such as at Microsoft Azure or Amazon Web Services or the 100+ neoclouds where intense levels of flexibility are required which is why even Google uses GPUs in its public cloud

dont_downvote_SPECIL

AI data center TAM to grow about 5x to more than $1.2tn by 2030E from $242bn in 2025E. NVDA share will likely normalize towards 75% form over 85% currently, as more customers develop custom chip options to handle the diversity of training/inference workloads

dont_downvote_SPECIL

Despite the potential for 40%+ sales/EPS growth, NVDA is trading at ~25x market multiple, essentially valuing the company as another run of the mill franchise

Count-to-3

I tend to agree. NVDA is almost certainly to hit a new record high at some point over the next calendar year. More likely before or just after Next earnings call.

dont_downvote_SPECIL

Google has been working on its custom designed TPU for the past decade. It has always used the TPU (“100% for Gemini 2 and Gemini 3” per Google) to train its models while using NVDA largely in its public cloud (GCP). So Google will still buy Nvidia chips for GCP

Happy-Champion1661

PFE into INTC+NVDA on friday before its earnings into GOOGL into MSFT "timing the market not time in the market" they say, right? (I got a 60% loss on my AMZN call tho, but I dumped it pretty quick at least)

prana_fish

Fintwit in uproar of recent SemiAnalysis article about $GOOG TPU and bearish implications to $NVDA. Long story short, the conclusion is behind the paywall is not bearish $NVDA. They're using the recent retarded TPU narratives to shock spread the article more like wildfire and it's working. What's scary though is buyside is too retarded AND lazy to understand the conclusion.

TheBalloonEffect

Yea 10% NVDA but not sweating a $76 avg

wickedbeats

CCCX is merging with Infleqtion, NVDA partnered quantum compute + sensing leader. Selling Quantum RF sensors, inertia/gravity sensors, and atomic timers to the US DoD, NASA, Japan, UK, etc. Infleqtion’s revenue is second only to IONQ, at 1/5 the valuation. They also sell quantum computers, and set the commercial record for physical qubits at 1600. The world record being 6400 set by Cal Tech using Infleqtion’s neutral atom glass core. Same seed investors as Palantir and Anduril, while playing a big role in national security. We need to stay competitive with china on quantum sensing——Palantir of quantum anyone?? Same guy that did OKLO merger, and that stock 15x’d with zero revenue. As a founding partner of NVDA NVQLink, Jenson Huang has said himself that Infleqtion’s QPUs will layer on top of the GPU CPU AI datacenter architecture. Sundar Pichai has just said that quantum is accelerating on the same level as AI 5 years ago. When the merger finalizes the CCCX ticker will change to INFQ, and I think this stock will be $100+ easy. It could even surpass IONQ when people realize trapped ions may not scale as well as IONQ’s CEO promises. Neutral Atoms are extremely promising and will dominate quantum sensing, and potentially quantum computing as well. CCCX to $100+

Zipski577

Thank you. Over the last year MU is up +140% while NVDA is up +30%.

BagHoldersOfAmerica

Just seems like there is zero buy pressure on NVDA anymore

StrictGuide2475

NVDA 182 by Tuesday?

callsonreddit

You know things are bad when NVDA is bleeding and BTC rebounds

Siks10

I April? AMD shares are up 187% since April. It's over 1 now and higher than for NVDA. IDK how you can use PEG and claim AMD is outperforming NVDA currently

Brilliant-Repeat-178

they are purposely trying to lover NVDA so that they could buy more at a discount

tacticalpanda

I think two under appreciated considerations here are 1) Things like HBM availability and TSMC production capacity are critical supply chain bottlenecks. NVDA who already has extensive supply chain partners and advantage are likely to hold a manufacturing advantage for some time. 2) Competition between cloud hyperscalers means that Azure or AWS will not just buy Google TPUs to re-sell. Same for competition between Google and other frontier model creators - they will not want to just shovel money over to their competitor. They may do this in small initial quantities to validate the concept, but there will not cede large margins in volume to a competitor for an extended time. We see efforts to avoid this already with Azure Maia and AWS Trainium. So I think when considering how this will change the chip landscape, there are actually quite a few outcomes where GOOGL does have a pricing advantage for their own model inference, but is not necessarily the long term winner in inference and training infrastructure, due to their competitive relationship with other chip consumers, and the challenges of manufacturing and deploying at scale.

lurker165473

NVDA

saranwrapx211

Been having nightmares of NVDA at 100. Bullish or bearish signal?

TomorrowSavings7579

Im kidding. I am staying put. NVDA LONG.

th3rdnutt

Time to rotate back to NVDA.

TomorrowSavings7579

Sell $NVDA, BUY $GOOGL?

cbusoh66

Looking like NVDA heading to $150s as rest of the market pumps to new highs. This is not AI bubble talk or Michael Burry bullshit; someone has inside information about something much bigger, only explanation for someone like Peter Thiel and Masayoshi Son to sell their entire stakes in the midst of what is supposed to be the greatest technological innovation of our times.

lurker165473

This encapsulates all of the reasons I would never buy meta. I'm also afraid to short it. I'll watch from the sidelines holding NVDA and GOOGL.

Cafesipper

Will 150x NVDA 190s at .73/contract be ok Monday??

Lopsided-Magician-36

The quantum data network. IONQ is the new NVdA is the new CSCO is the new IBm. All are involved in the quantum internet that will be rolling out. IONQ’s work on quantum fidelity and quantum sensing has the opportunity to be world changing. It’s the closest thing you can get to investing in NVDA 20 years ago. It’s only true competition is the companies I listed above and GOOGL. Best bet is to buy all of them plus AMD and sit and wait until 2040. IONQ CAGR is great 2 mil rev to 120 mil in 5 years: extrapolating and they should be pulling in billions as a cash cow in 10-15 years.

Expensive-Photo-5059

Agreed on all counts here. However, that GOOG was able to train the best rated frontier model \*without\* NVDA is very important. This follows a lot of what happened with Claude 4.5 and Tranium 2. The fact that GOOG could even emerge as not just a customer but competitor is important...

Machine8851

This month has been rough for NVDA, December should improve to close out the year.

Purpletorque

1. Gemini 3 was just rated the best AI 2. Rumors of Apple to partner with Gemini 3. Google makes a TPU chip that competes with NVDA for its data centers that others are also using 4. Google just won govt anti trust suit and they still dominate online advertising and will not be broken up A lot here to be bullish about.

potato111a

So is NVDA LMAO 🤌

stocksmakeyourich

I own a mix of shares and leaps for risk management purposes. If any of my CC get assigned I have the shares, and sell puts to get back in. I hold 2 1/28 125 NVDA Calls and 300 shares. Similar structure with NVDL, 2 LEAPS and shares..

Fhyzikz

I would wait a little longer. Once you start seeing everyone lining up for silver bars or spamming SLV and talking about it nonstop on r/walstreetbets, I will probably buy puts. Especially inverse r/wallstreetbets is usually free money. Like they hate NVDA, MSFT and AMZN right now so I'm considering calls now.

ViolentOnion

Step 1: own 100 shares of NVDA

andytobbles

Google tpus, NVDA gpus, and AMD gpus are all utilized for different things therefore there will be plenty of buyers moving forward

slbaaron

My NVDA cost average is $4.87 totaling just below $6000 so I’m not losing sleep holding. But I would never buy another 200k of NVDA today. I’m not that rich and 200k (1200 units) is still a relatively significant part of my portfolio today. So you can say I still have some faith in it. It’s just that I’m ok with it pulling back 30% as well which I think is possible if AI bubble pops. Within risk tolerance as we say in wallstreetbets lmaoo You do you. Back your mouth with moves and I wish you the best.

E39_CBX

Holding NVDA calls is ruining my weekend

ApartmentRadiant6555

In the short term, the tech sector and maybe the whole market will drop. Those in the OpenAI's circular web (i.e. MSFT, NVDA, ORCL, AMD) will be hit the most. Well-deserved. In the long term, if AI is not a flop, the hyperscalers won't have to compete as much for data centers as they do now, NVDA won't be able to charge 70% margin on their GPUs. Overall, it will be cheaper to develop AI models, NVDA will be skewed. If AI turns out to be a flop, the tech sector will take a lot longer to recover and the data centers will slowly be used for other purposes. NVDA with its current valuation will be skewed either way.

punker1996

NVDA calls is so obvious. It will be pumped. Trust

Commercial_Seat_3704

NVDA 200 by end of year please Jensen make it happen

IllDatabase1519

I have $217 calls expiring 1/16/26 for NVDA. How cooked am I? Down 80 plus percent right now.

smellysurfwax

Toss in some NVDA puts on Monday please

Swimming-Cupcake7041

This has got to be the most uneducated statement I've ever read. What do you think NVDA's and AMD's chips are, if not ASICs?

LabDaddy59

>If NVDA indeed reaches 150 the short 250 leg will lose a lot of value. If NVDA shows signs of rebound at 150, close it immediately. If? NVDA is $177. I'm not sure what you're driving at here. >If NVDA starts running up from here the 150 short put loses a lot of value. If it loses more than 60% value, its good idea to close it as well. If NVDA runs up, the short put will gain value, not lose value. Do you mean close it at 60% profit? * The 250C does limit upside however it helps with some theta burn. Structure has positive theta. Since 250 is 40% away and a mkt cap no company has ever reached, it might be a while before NVDA reaches there. I don't have a substantial issue with that; I might go a little higher, say $260, $270, but I can see $250. I'm not keen on the $200 long call. I'm a fan of 80-90 delta long calls. In your example, you have a wide 'no man's land' of \~$146 to $200 where you'd essentially be slightly better than breakeven (at expiration, of course). If you did the $140 long call (delta 79), your cost would increase about $3,000. Max profit would go to $8,430. But more importantly, compared with the $368 profit with NVDA at $197, you'd have $3,130 if your long was $140. That'd be my 'more conservative' move. On the 'more aggressive side', I'd consider a short put up to $200. Cost of $140/$250 call spread and $200 short put is $12.50/contract. At the same $197 I used above at expiration, this structure would profit $5,388. Good luck and have fun!

SuperbAirport9741

!banbet NVDA 190 7d

HighRoller097

NVDA! with this pullback

Scary_Cherry8195

Anyone to stubborn to sell for a loss. Like i refuse to sell my NVDA stocks i bought at 192. But it means i probably have to wait a long time to atleast gain something

frogboyjr

NVDA unironically a value stock now

Doctor_Raymos

What I mean is if the priority is consistent theta & low conviction, NVDA isnt really the right ticker. It moves aggressively and has too much event risk. If the goal is assignment, that is a different strategy entirely. Trying to get a steady theta AND also hedge a LEAP sized upside cap means you're mixing two entirely different objectives. If you want a high conviction upside, there's a better play. If you want steady theta, there are better tickers. NVDA doesn't do both well at the same time. You will likely either get assigned and face a downward trend, or get capped

Doctor_Raymos

It sounds like you are too focused on daily theta as if it's the whole story. A 4$/day theta bleed with real delta on a LEAP is normal, unless you are just looking for a theta farm? In which case, why would you ever go for something like NVDA to do this. I assume NVDA leap for a high directional play, maybe I'm wrong. The 150p and 250c sell away convexity on both sides for a small positive theta number. +2$/day is nothing compared to the tail risk in the 150p. If you are looking for a safe & neutral structure, that's fine. But that is what this is, it is not a high conviction directional play.

FrostySoftPressure

Well, I bought NVDA…

SuperSaiyanIR

Bought GOOG 330C 05/12 and NVDA 180 05/12. How cooked am I

Doctor_Raymos

Agreed overall. I believe a lot online hold conviction synonymously with emotion, kind of natural to be honest. They is always ebb and flow even with the strongest companies and strongest economies. I agree with your sentiment about this technology having the potential to be revolutionizing. But it does come at a precarious time. I will gladly tell my plays are straight calls going into rate cuts, and will abruptly about-face into puts on all Mag7 for end of December & January. I have deep hedges for an economic collapse, but will also ride this for all it's worth. It is funny many (even myself) stick to the fundamentals of AI when clearly this is a sentiment heavy cycle. The over exposure of spending and valuation makes many look like they have egg on their face. I don't divulge my entire strategy, but have posts highlighting my beliefs that AI was going to encounter a significant correction post-earnings NVDA. I honestly don't have any loyalty to any company 😋

Dangerous-Confetti

At the end of the day who really GAF if the market crashes. It recovers just as fast as it crashes. Unless there is some fundamental black swan effect that crushes the banking system. AI earnings are growing just as fast as their stock price (NVDA) No reason for a sustained crash. The .COM crash had shit companies with no substantial earnings increase. We aren't seeing the same with these AI companies. WIth NVDA's guidance at 65 billion for next quarter. Only reason u should ever consider taking your money out is if you plan on retiring soon. If not then just keep adding to your ROTH or IRA

E39_CBX

NVDA march to 210 starts this Sunday night

livin_in_the_land

Bought NVDA calls today, wonder how that’ll work out next week

AncientAlloy

Burry is trying to manipulate alright. That is the point that everyone is missing. He is successfully getting NVDA to dip so he can make money off of everyone following his scare tactic. After everyone follows his staged act he will buy back in, watch NVDA naturally correct back up, and sell again for a profit. It seems pretty obvious to me. I can't believe so much of the market is falling for it. It's ridiculous.

Doctor_Raymos

Meta doesn't disclose in their financial data, they're fair game. I think it is important to consider bears perspective in this, fundamentals on things like NVDA tell a completely different story. They can literally throw the money away from the "circular" deals, and STILL report above expectations record breaking earnings and profit.

jensenskawk

All true but the regards on wallstreet barely understands this. All they see is “lower cost and more efficient than GPU - NVDA margin compression”.

radishr

If Chinese companies are just going to train their AI models overseas to circumvent export controls, we might as well just let NVDA sell the chips to them after all..... [https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/chinas-tech-giants-move-ai-052307498.html](https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/chinas-tech-giants-move-ai-052307498.html)

vegassina

NVDA will dominate for ever, nobody is close,no now,no ever

AdQuick8612

Been buying the fear in NVDA all week. It’s the hedge against my massive GOOG position now.

______deleted__

How does OpenAI even hold the bag? They promised they’d buy NVDA GPU tokens? With whose money?

Single-Structure6162

Apple has the craziest plunge protection team, and google who is taking NVDA market share? Complete opposite reaction from me

Weak-Pomegranate-435

Top3 best buys ranked in mag7: 1 $NVDA 2 $AMZN 3 $MSFT

Little_Belt_1489

Have anyone invest or looked into yieldMax NVDA which (NVDY) I saw someone posted on Facebook that they get so much back just from interest. I’m curious if anyone know that works please help out

Nsj_1

Should I feel nervous for my 180 12/19 calls on NVDA? Fomo back into after selling calls I got at 170.30 but I went in bigger sigh.

CEOWatcher

Google and Nvidia are competitors due to TPUs v GPUs. TPUs have picked up some heat so the GOOG v NVDA spread widened in Google’s favor (for now)

AwkwardNovel7

is NVDA gonna recover and pump or is it in a death spiral ??

lurker165473

Look I'm a Google bull too, with half my port in GOOGL LEAPS TPUs are ASICs and are specialized for Google's use. They lack the ease of use of Cuda and are not nearly as versatile as nvda GPUs. Also at the end of the day, NVDA has 75% of TSMC's capacity. GOOGL can only manufacture a limited amount of TPUs.

lurker165473

Me too, my port is just calls on NVDA and GOOGL LMAO

Prudent-Corgi3793

>But somehow AMD made 93% profit while Nvidia only 31% in 6 months. What are you talking about? | Past 6 months | AMD | NVDA | |:-|:-|:-| | Revenue | $16.931M | $103.749M | | Gross Profit | $8.359M | $75.702M | | Operating Income | $1.172M | $64.450M | | Net Income | $2.115M | $58.332M | | EBITDA | $2.683M | $65.870M | | Free Cash Flow | $3.630M | $35.585M | Even accounting for the Xilinx acquisition and the ~12x higher market cap of Nvidia, I don't see how Nvidia is profitable at all, and I don't see this 93% profit you're referring to.

th3rdnutt

Wendy's Announces Development Partnership with NVDA For Self Driving Dumpsters

Complex-Note-5274

If NVDA does a full META it’d be hilarious because I hold both

Own_Purple229

NVDA puts

jensenskawk

That one month chart for NVDA is scary

MyotisX

If NVDA is only doing gaming then their market cap will be like $50B

small_dogs_rock

You are saying buying at 20 and selling at 35 is a smart move. No? NVDA is a hold. You comprehension is complete ass...unless you prefer $35 to $176,

Doctor_Raymos

Because he first asserted straight fraud and lying about accounting numbers. He got called on it, and backtracked, and this is his new argument. He already has puts on NVDA. He also knows media is listening to him. If I was in his situation and able to tilt the balance of the market in my direction, I would similarly make an argument that can't be outright invalidated for the next 3-5 years when the depreciation he claims would happen, happens. He argues that this is about AI chips, not data center chips, so really there is no way to objectively dispute it without time. But, NVDA is already doing the work necessary to make his arguments redundant. However, it undoubtedly has negatively impacted their standard post-earnings recovery.

zanghfei

Can a normal person like me can buy a TPU to run Crysis? If not then, call NVDA

Vivid-Society4589

Give me a good portfolio. Started investing 1 month ago. Here is what my portfolio is looking like. 37% VOO 33%BTC (bought a few of the dips) 30% NVDA I want to diversify my portfolio and have a couple ideas and have done a decent amount of research, but would like some education and suggestions from you guys and what is likely to drive the market in the upcoming years and why. I am a teenager so I have plenty of time to hold and learn. Thank you god bless.

Doctor_Raymos

I think you are deeply confused. NVDA has done multiple stock splits, if that is why you are wondering why the share price is lower than AMD. NVDA is a whale, AMD is a guppy. AMD is my long favorite, but to suggest AMD is outperforming NVDA is absurd

teamyg

I am loaded with GOOG and NVDA; next Monday must be bloody if history is any guide. 😱

chrisco571

AMD is at the beginning of their data center growth curve, their first competitive AI data center chips, the MI450 are launching this year. NVDA is at a more mature part of their growth curve. AMD market cap is less than 10% the size at 350bn market cap vs Nvidia at 4.3trillion. Much easier to move the market cap

sailortyx56

They recently got like $15bn from NVDA and Microsoft. They have $8bn from Amazon and $3bn from Google. Still, it is a rapid change in under 13 months. Either NVDA does not have enough chips to sell to them, or they are fine with some cheaper processor options to get by.

No_Chipmunk_6709

NVDA 190$ next week 2 December Global tech and IA Conference

MADD-Scientis

This has been baked into the NVDA stock price for years. The forward PE never gets above 35 because people are expecting the margin to crash next quarter. Well that “next quarter” hasn’t happened yet

graps2

If you have NVDA calls you should be very worried with Altman hyping up Gemini 3.0 and the TPU analysis coming out

Charming_Raccoon4361

NVDA is for boomers

Fine_Specialists

#NVDA GANG Members checking in

AlphaOne69420

This is such BS. These articles and hit pieces are so dumb. NVDA makes the top tier chips for physical ai. GPUs are essentially universal and programmable, whereas ASICS are not. This is a night and day difference. When Rubin comes out, it will smash competition even more so than Blackwell

Happy-Champion1661

I love GOOGL, it has also been by far my best play multiple times this year. so NVDA calls?

solariac

Good writeup, I had thought TPUs would be competitive prior but CUDA was the moat blocking them from being so. If this has changed even slightly then I can definitely see NVDA taking a painful slow drawdown as the market adjusts its forward expectations.

sudharsansai

So the new report basically buried NVDA's short term prospects?

asiansnowflake

I picked NVDA today. You’re welcome.

FartCanCivic

Literally go to the NVDA sub, those guys are literally a fucking cult