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Looking for niche industries with dominant players/brand loyalty.
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A prediction of META’s mixed reality headset hardware spec in 2030
which of these stocks will best survive a recession?
$KOPN - swing play with a METAVERSE pennystock that will be at CES 2022 this week 1/5-1/7 (price went from $2 to $13 in the 6 weeks following previous CES 2021)
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($LPL) Bullish on LG Display. OLED Shortage in 2022
Analyst: Apple's AR Glasses Will be Just as Powerful as a Mac Computer - ExtremeTech
GME came through on the Switch OLED! I hope this translates into some good Q4 earnings. Doing my bit to help the cause.
Deep Fucking Value in LG Display $LPL
The bottom is in for LG Display. Heavily Undervalued, will easily rally 15% by EOY
Crazy Value in LG Display and Good Expectations for Q4 $LPL
New Pokemon game coming next week, buy NTDOY?
LG display (LPL), severely undervalued company
Is it finally time to look at XTPL@WSE?
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$HIMX - some DD I did that I thought I'd share...
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EMAN: Is eMagin a Winner in the OLED industry?
$LPL Granted 15 New Patents Including OLED Tech 🖼🖼🖼 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/time-focus-lg-display-lpl-124112977.html
$EMAN - sole display provider for the awesome Night Vision goggles you're been seeing
EMAN probably announcing 4K x 4K OLED color micro display at SIDS conference next week!
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From Smart Phone to Smart Glasses
(called it) MX Part 4: DA Announced at $29, 27% gain, but the war is just beginning (92% more upside)
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IPad Pro OLED soon. finally time to upgrade.
Ordered an OLED Steam Deck, should be here this week. Pretty excited.
Apple is one of the most evil corporations on the planet, not as bad as Nestlé but it's right up there. It does anything it wants people like you to gobble shit up. You are trivialising a serious issue. Oh heaven forbid we adopt a standard charger to save on e waste. Apple design their products for standards that don't exist yet. OLED is poor, let's not pay for licensing patents, we want a 35% cut of that, oh and all future purchases. It would be a shame if something happened to your phone. Glass that always breaks and only we can fix. Oh yes. We think differently, so it's OK.
Like most other retailers, Best Buy struggles to show a good value proposition to consumers for a lot of things. The ability to actually see the TVs and hear the sound bars they are connected to is big though - same for actually being able to see appliances. The problem is that a lot of stores are from when physical media (CDs/DVDs) were a thing and you basically had to go to Best Buy or Circuit City. I bought the wall mount and sound bar for my TV in 2019 at Best Buy. The LG OLED was on sale elsewhere but the salesperson showed me the options for both, explained them and showed them to me. Prices were basically maybe a bit more expensive than Amazon (it was 5 years ago so I don't remember to be honest) .
MicroLED hardly makes sense any longer, so I’m not surprised R&D is becoming less appealing. At the rate QD-OLED is progressing, all the gains uLED offered will have been picked away at. Plus, the disadvantages have made little progress a decade later. Just consider the manufacturing complexity: Indiviudal, physical LEDs for each pixel. This compared to *printed* OLEDs and Quantum Dots. The difference is staggering. Millions of tiny, little parts or a liquid substrate that can be manipulated pefectly with electric charges. Assumimg the panel seams can be resolved, you also have to consider uLED’s power draw and heat…neither of which are an issue with OLED. As of today, it’s recommended you install a dedicated AC system on larger installs.
I can't use newer iphones since iphone 11, because OLED PWM gives me headache, nausea and vertigo. Can I use android? Nope because the same problem. And I don't like the android. And I don't want to use android, I have my macbook for work and apple watch to track my health status. I can't update my iphone 11 to latest OS because apple constantly changing the software to control colors on a display and battery efficiency which gives me eye strain, and not just me but right now we have 3k ppl in subreddit /PWM\_Sensitive. Because of older iOS, I can't have an opportunity to update my watches to latest versions, they just blocked it, and forcing me to use LATEST devices with only LATEST iOS/MacOS/WatchOS. Is this you are saying a consumer preferences ?
Not necessarily. New technology TVs are still more costly. See 8K OLED and bigger screens
Can someone give the TLDR on why OLED is trending? It looks like it’s headed to $135
77 and a 65 myself ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882) I’d rather go blind than ever watch a non OLED tv
Does this mean the new iPad Pro OLED will be announced tomorrow?
not going to find it on OLED/IPS... find a classic CRT if you can...
>OLED 65” [https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?q=OLED+65%E2%80%9D&searcharea=deals&searchin=first&isUserSearch=1](https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?q=OLED+65%E2%80%9D&searcharea=deals&searchin=first&isUserSearch=1) I'd wait for the 65" LG G3 to pop up again for $1244 though. I personally have Samsung's 65" S90B and it's great but I miss out on Dolby Vision.
There are regular 65” OLED deals on SlickDeals. Check those out.
Current best OLED 65” TV guys please
I would very much like to go this way too. But is it going to look good on my 55inch 4k OLED tv.? Or are the channels just in dogshit quality?
Well, last week while I was on vacation I made enough I pulled out 100k and paid all my debts, yesterday I got a nice 77" OLED TV, and today I made a reservation at the best restaurant in the city for my family. Basically at this point the goal is reinvest to fund a move/house purchase and pay Uncle Sam.
Damn I hope Best Buy is still in business in 5 years Gotta make use of my OLED TVs 5 year warranty
> will be more transformational than fire or the wheel Last time we heard hype like this it was about NFTs and OLED tvs.
Been looking at their laptop discounts and offerings and they are strong, and best pricing I can find for the wave of OLED laptops coming in. So, the Dell XPS seems to be ahead of the rest, and cheaper, and the longest warranty. Dell CALLS. All the way. You watch. Cheers.
Maybe you're new or something but it's literally always been this way. Even back in the early/mid aughts you kinda had to be affluent to afford nvda cards. But I guess it's the same demographic as the people barely making their car payments but have cable tv and their kids always have the latest gaming consoles. Just people living outside their means who are gonna have to work until the day they die. But at least they bought the latest consumer electronics device . Dumb ass beckies and their iPhone 17 HD SSD OLED GG
Wal-Mart should pay me to ring up and bag my own groceries. I mean if I accidentally my new 55" OLED 4k as post-it notes, clearly that's because I have not been through proper training ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
OLED is the real play today
Haha. Fair enough. I had the Vizio P659-H1, so a model year newer than yours. Great panel, never had a complaint on the picture quality. I can't speak on the B series OLED. I had read to avoid the entry level OLEDs so I'm assuming there's a reason people gave that advice so unanimously. I will say that you must have grossly overpaid for that OLED if it cost you 3X the P Series. They should have been comparable in price.
I own a P659-G1 and OLED65B7A. I’d def consider the Vizio the better TV. I’m ready to defend my opinion too.
Lol which OLED did you buy? I had a P Series Quantum Vizio a few years ago (pretty much the best TV Vizio made at the time). Worst TV I've ever owned by a mile. Had it repaired/ replaced twice because of a firmware update putting it into a bootloop. Every update they pushed to it made it worse and broke basic functionality (despite their CSRs telling me that it would fix those things). It didn't work properly with my Series X or Nvidia Shield. The warranty doesn't cover them breaking the TV via software updates so it eventually sat in a corner for a while and I upgraded to an LG C1. Best TV I've ever owned. Has every gaming feature you could ask for.
They do? Serious reply. Last tv I bought was a 77inch LG OLED 3 years ago. Never connected to wifi, it's blocked and turned off. My Xbox runs all the entertainment stuff and streaming apps. I've never had an ad pop up. Only through hulu, youtube, and now Amazon prime video. Which they stated would be playing ads. If my TV started playing ads I'd burn it, film it, and send it to their corporate overlords.
Dude.. no one cares. The only people that make the argument you're trying to make, are people that don't have a card capable of DLSS. You make an equally asinine argument about "OLED bad" while you're probably rocking a piece of shit VA panel and think peak brightness "isn't bright enough for real HDR." The rest of the world uses their eyeballs. But its always amusing when someone pontificates about their opinions, while having zero first hand experience with the hardware in question. Some nerd ass shit dude.
You wasted your money, but I feel for you. OLED is a garbage and WAY too dim for a proper HDR experience. Not to mention the fact that it's a decaying, fundamentally flawed tech (this is why they get burn-in). If you care about HDR MiniLED is hands down superior.
OLED is garbage. Too dim for a good HDR experience. If you want to be impressed go MiniLED which is a superior tech.
PHOLED saves some power and reduces heat, but biggest issue is the lifetime of the blue PHOLED stack is 45% shorter than the lifetime of its current fluorescence-blue stack. This means despite power-saving and heat-reduction, PHOLEDs can't give a big boost to picture quality and brightness, or the display's life will suffer. The limited improvement won't be enough to compete with the upcoming successor of QD-OLED, called nanorod-LED (true QNED) which replaces the blue OLED layer with blue nanorod LEDs that are self-emissive like OLEDs without the significant burn-in risk of OLEDs. PHOLED is predicted to be in mass production late 2025 to 2029. Nanorod-LED is predicted to go mass production between 2025-2027, and microLED and QDEL expect to go mass production 2026-2028. So QDEL, nanorod-LED, and microLED are the future of display technology.
$GCT is one for sure on growth and then $META or $OLED
Meh what? lol.. My first GPU was a Voodoo2 in SLI. I had 1080 Ti in SLI, 2080 Ti, 3090 and now a 4090. If you're not a big gamer, or play at 1080p then yeah not much reason to upgrade. But 4K OLED's is a *massive* visual improvement, and 4K at high fps is amazing.
Unimpressed with what? Get a 4090, a VRR OLED at 4K/120 and be impressed...
The comments here are unreal. I own this thing. The micro OLED screens inside, which cost AAPL $800 per unit, are the best screens I have seen in my life. They not only make every other VR device look childish, they blow away my Sony z75, the best LED ever made. They are a portable IMAX screen. Colors are perfect. Sound is clear and deep. If it did literally nothing else but play tv and movies, it would be worth it.
I got an LG OLED 65” for $1500 in January. I never stopped to consider it, but yeah I think they were way more a couple years ago. My TV would’ve been like $2500 then.
Costco deal. Even poors like me can afford OLED
No one here invests in $OLED ?? Great company check them out
None of you cucks invest in $OLED??
I don’t watch much TV and still haven’t upgraded to 4K, but I can’t wait until I have a crispy 4K OLED + Panasonic UHD Blu-Ray player to watch some Scorsese classics
Apple vision pro proves to me we are maybe 1-2 hardware iterations away from "this looks silly" to "I'm in line". Imagine if the display is projected onto your retina instead of needing the whole OLED in-between you and the world? Or some equally accommodating display innovation. It looks incredible, and the apple polish on it all is so refreshing in the space. All in all it looks like the iPhone 1, and I can't wait for the 3gs/4
And thats a massive overpay for a TV. You can get a top of the line 65 OLED for under $1700.
A $3000 OLED and $100 LCD can both play a movie. A $3000 custom built PC and a $100 android can both play games. Your point? This has a much nicer screen and has the processing power of an M2 Mac.
You honestly think they're using some innovative tech to make them? Likely an OLED transparent screen with an AR software and their own OS. Literally nothing groundbreaking, aside from slapping an Apple logo on it, which is also mot groundbreaking
They’re heavily limited with the micro-OLED panels from Sony though. That’s why it’ll take time to fulfill. They had 80k ready for launch date iirc. Not much in Apple product usual quantities.
I've long derided Tesla's bland and outdated styling. But the counterpoint is that creates a huge opportunity. Kia vehicles use to be ugly junk boxes. They decided to make a large investment in poaching an up and coming Audi designer. The look went from junk bargain to downright sexy, which allowed them to dramatically reprice their product line to be on par with established makers. That's the abbreviated version of a major business success tactic. It's not outside the realm of possibility for tesla to open the vault and buy an actual decent designer to make some eye catching designs. Of course, they'd need to break from the tradition of using musk's craptastic sketches that result in vehicles which resemble doodles from a fifth graders notebook. But imagine if they suddenly got a ton of fresh interest in truly sexy looking vehicles, turning one of their liabilities into a strength. Consumers will create their own rational justifications for decisions they've already made emotionally. You see it all the time: "I bought this crazy overpriced 85" OLED television, but it's not extravagant because I'm going to money not going to the cinema" Or "I signed up for a high interest high depreciation car purchase loan but I avoided having to pay $600 for a brake job on my old one." So if tesla design changed to be asthetically desirable, you'd get a lot of buyers ready to pay a premium who say they're doing it for the environmental and fuel savings, but in reality they just want something spicy and sporty. Most of Tesla's lineup looks like the old gm-Saturn styling.
Cos that site and ones like it tend to be overstressed from too many watchers and lag horribly. Unless you're watching them at like 2am. Plus even the 1080p quality is garbage vs Netflix 4k or even better 4k blurays. if you have an awesome OLED TV you don't wanna see pixels and crushed colors when streaming from those sites.
> Considering the VP has a micro-OLED for each eye that is 3x as many pixels as a 4k display, I'm not sure this will be a problem. That is definitely a good start
Considering the VP has a micro-OLED for each eye that is 3x as many pixels as a 4k display, I'm not sure this will be a problem. I get your point though, we'll see if Apple can achieve it.
This is an early product. Naturally, it will be much smaller and more comfortable in later generations, and then you can have a 777” (yes 777) virtual OLED TV.
Just go to Apple’s site and read about it if you are truly curious. It’s a tiny OLED 4k screen, but when that close to your eye, it will look giant.
OLED is on its way out. MicroLED (Samsung, LG) and QDEL (Sharp) is where it's at.
No one cares about how much power their television consumes. OLED is great, but until costs start rivaling traditional LED sources there isn't a huge use for them outside of screen technology. That means no general illumination, no large scale deployment like the Sphere. Just television and phone screens. This can't be good advice, and I say this knowing full well the only reason I lurk here is to see the Loss Porn.
The OLED industry is highly cyclical. I don't see UD as being a prudent investment. It already has a very high P/E
Micro LED was pushed back two years because of Covid. I’m willing to bet that we start to see consumer grade micro LED TVs hit the sub $10,000 price range in the next 24 months two years after that OLED will be going the way of plasma.
MicroLED is far from ready to consider, alignment issues, LEDs too big. We just don't know how to make them work. OLED is proven, and PHOLED will be big, until either MicroLED has a breakthrough, or Samsung's GaN Nanorod LEDs do.
How modern qoled works = RGB quantum dots turn white Organic backlight into ultra bright RGB with no backlight wasted. How PHOLED changes the game = Blue Organic backlight on par with white ones, only need R and G quantum dots, blue is just pass through. Big savings on manufacturing. No Brainer, Universal already says they'll be ready for LG and Samsungs around 2925 A bit of an oversimplification of OLED tech but you get the idea
its a wearable VR headset with AR capabilities that you dont need a controller for because of hand/eye tracking. it provides portable 4k micro OLED screens to EACH eye, which is literally twice as sharp as the vive pro 2. it's not meant for me personally, but if they're able to give it a good battery life and make it light enough to wear, it's price tag is 100% justifiable over a gaming headset. it's not meant for the same audience.
Also covers installs of a lot of stuff so while I can in theory hang a giant OLED panel from the wall it’s super nice to just have a couple dudes knock it out in 20min. Then a car radio the next year and a remote starter kit the next.
So many OLED laptops this CES. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)
The amount of money we gave to Ukraine was more than what it would cost to give every family in Russia a 65" OLED. Are you telling me hooking Russia up with that many tvs wouldn't have made us bros for life? No wonder they hate us.
Anyone here hold $OLED?
During the meme stock craze, my friend bought $200 of AMC stock as a joke. The price of the stock went up and he cashed out like $1,600 and bought a 55 inch LG OLED with the money.
I use them for some work stuff, and just ordered the brand new 2024 notebook pro because I absolutely love my 2019. OLED on the 16".
Disclaimer: This article is written by the CEO of Lightwave Logic. It is a great synopsis of their disruptive polymer tech, the solutions it offers and the market it is focused on. He often compares the transitions to polymer taking place in the semiconductor/optical computing world to how OLED replaced LED in TVs. https://www.laserfocusworld.com/optics/article/14303307/would-archimedes-say-eureka-if-he-saw-ai-and-an-electro-optic-polymer-platform
I have a bike trainer in my basement that I used last year but probably won't use this year. I have a 55" OLED in front of it. I'll take watching movies on my TV over spending $3500 on the vision pro any day
Costco is such a funny place. Like yea it’s a great deal, but am I gonna be able to consume this much peanut butter in one lifetime? Also lemme get a paddle-board and a OLED tv while im here anyways. Eat a cheap hotdog and get slightly discounted gas to balance it out
IMHO, BYD is a copy cat, like most chinese companies. Elon built the first factory in China which was a mistake. China copied Model 3/Y. did the same for display technology and now leading LCD market, trying to do the same for OLED. Chinese gov also subsidizes heavily these critical tech companies which helps them make 'profits'. It is a system that no other free world companies can't even compete. the fact Tesla still go neck and neck with BYD is a reason enough how good Tesla is.
You can literally buy a 4TB thunderbolt 4 external drive for $250. Or an internal 2TB nvme drive for $100. Most gaming laptops come with 2-3 m.2 slots now. If you're not a 4k movie editor, you have no business even looking at an Apple laptop. The only advantage they have over a gaming laptop in terms of raw compute is battery and screen. But you can get great OLED Windows laptops now for like $1500. And how often are you using your laptop while not plugged in? I travel all the time for work, and my answer is nearly never.
There are so many iPad models out there it’s crazy. It doesn’t even make sense. What sucks is that despite so many models there is not a single OLED or MiniLED iPad besides 12.9 inch. I would buy an 11 inch OLED or MiniLED iPad but Apple is dragging its feet to give us that despite so many iPad pro releases.
Which OLED should I get? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
Which OLED should I get? A75L Sony $1500 LG C3 $1600 Samsung S90 $1500 ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
Thursday night football looks so nice on my Sony OLED tv 🥰
Yea TVs are dirt cheap anymore. And then came the OLED panel. They’re getting more affordable, but they’re just as expensive now as LCDs were 20 years ago.
I read about the longevity issues. I already have an OLED tv but I was spooked enough that I was definitely going to go micro LED for our second tv. Made it all the way to the store and caved, bought another OLED. Those things just look too gd nice.
This! Bought an LG OLED and hated the OS so much I ran out and bought an nvidia shield lol
My last LG OLED was completely fucked a few years in. It was watchable, but as soon as there was a solid block of colour anywhere on screen you just saw the ghosts of a dozen different game UI’s, health bars, radars etc. I switched to a Philips for my next tv, it seems to be going better, although the local dimming is very aggressive.
For real. That same LG 48” OLED for $550 as last year and periodically throughout this year. And it says was $1299. No it wasn’t.
Yup. My 11 year old plasma died earlier this month and was hoping to get an OLED but they are still a little more than I'm willing to spend on a TV. So went with a mini-led TV instead. It's good enough and half the price.
$600 for OLED is like freaking MUST BUY....but it won't happen, they said the price would go down with adoption but we're like 11 years past that point and the price isn't going down any time soon.
I've actually been looking to buy a big screen OLED. So I was following the prices and they started going up over the last month. Now they're all discounted to back where they were a month ago. In other words, Black Friday is bullshit.
I just ordered a 55" LG OLED B3 for $1K. Never seen them that cheap. If anything, the biggest sales this week have seemed to have been LG OLEDs
Hey if im trynna cop an OLED what’s the play? Are the ‘unboxed’/‘openboxed’ deals really deals?
Agreed. For my main evening viewing I'm still using a mid-late 2000s Panasonic plasma (1080p) ... not because I can't afford a 77" 4k OLED, but because the picture isn't any improvement _to my eyes_ (note the last bit before disagreeing with me please). Outside holographic tvs/16k suddenly appearing I think the only real next big thing will be if lazer projectors get small, cheap and good enough to bite into the tv market ... _maybe_ AR glasses ... but neither seem to have mass appeal.
Couple of problems. One, everyone is broke. Two, no one buys shit in store when you can buy it online and have it delivered. Three, almost none of the Black Friday Deals were actually deals. Either fake deals or actually more expensive than historical data shows. Finally I bought a big ass TV (75in) years ago and until OLED 75in HD1000+ TVs are under 1000 dollars, I'm not buying another TV.
the sent the same shitty Samsung tvs to Walmart. like send OLED and qled and people with snatch them up. why buy a mediocre Samsung tv
That was the same for my fiance. We moved into our starter home about two years ago and at first she didn’t care what TV we got as long as it didn’t cost over x. As soon as we got to the OLED section all that went out the window and I was given the green light for a nice Sony 75” OLED.
How often to people buy tvs for real? I think I’m every 10 years. I get the best available each time and it lasts me through just fine. I’ll pick up an OLED in a couple years off some joker who lost it all on here chasing the bubble.
That’s why TVs aren’t selling like they used to. There was a rush for them when HD came around, but a lot of people don’t see the benefit of UHD and things like OLED. Most people are fine with the TV they bought 5 or even 10 years ago.
Yup, OLED is the exception in TV pricing for sure. Only a few panel makers, right? Does anyone besides LG even make TV size OLEDs? Absent serious competition, and knowing that aficionados will pay…well there’s nothing to pressure prices down.
A 55 in LG OLED will blow your mind
And it's all down-spec and down-featured garbage models from their normal model equivalents (so they can sell for cheaper) AND it's older tech... For TVs I'm not even listening if it's not OLED and has features..
I bought a TV that actually was on a real sale (i keep an excel price list months ahead), but being my first OLED, I got a warranty for 5 years that ate the savings. So was this still a deal?
Yep, the LG OLED TVs for example have versions with missing features like the 120hz refresh rate, VRR, and other stuff
>I mean, it’s pretty comparable if you’re just a normie watching stranger things It's not, at all. Sure, the same show can be playing and you can clearly discern who the character on screen is, but TVs from 2008-2012 are terrible compared to today's TVs, especially OLED. You may not CARE about the difference, but they're not comparable.
My current TV is basically as big as we could comfortably have in our living room and while not OLED, is 4K with local dimming and generally looks pretty good. Now, I actually do try to pickup movies in 4K BluRay and get irked by shitty steaming and all that and even *I* am pretty much set for the foreseeable future on our TV. Now imagine the majority of people who don't even seem to notice the compression artifacts in dark scenes that seem so obvious to cinephile weirdos like myself and try to talk them into OLED, 8K, 120hz, or a bigger TV when you can already buy one that blocks the sun for like $300. That's all to say I wonder if we've kinda reached a piratical technological peak and saturation point with TV's. Now, I could go for a 4K house though.
Eh, it's fine. I got 7.5 years out of a first run X34. Got the first one off the boat from Canada and it powered through for a long time. I can handle only getting 3 or hopefully 4 years from these early second gen OLED panels. They should be much better and cheaper when this one burns in /out in a few years.