PLTR

AfraidAnalyst

Regarded af. But, there was a regard yesterday who excesses PLTR 150c when it was at 148. RH reversed it and was pissed. “Didn’t like taking losses” so would rather pay $2 more per share People are stuoid

Popoice

That is exactly why I'm on board in PLTR

Conscious_Chapter672

PLTR, PSX, NVDA,XOM,Qcom

KnickersTwisted

For any/everyone still on board with PLTR, give this a gander: https://open.substack.com/pub/hrnews1/p/alex-karp-the-insane-billionaire?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=qe44e

OddScene4044

So you bought PLTR at the right time and now you think you’re a stock picking genius, excepting of course the last few months. Welcome to the stock picking club. 

RedditFan3510

As I said, I ended with a 70% gain in PLTR that was closer to 200+% at a time. Had I sold at beginning of this year wouldn't have lost so much

Visible_Handle_3770

If you can't afford to be losing the money for a year or two, it probably shouldn't be in the stock market, and it definitely shouldn't be in PLTR et al. If you don't have in the ball park of 3+ years time horizon, you're not investing, you're gambling.

deviltrombone

Carl also pushed for the AAPL dividend, so you were getting paid to wait those 5 years as they steadily decreased the share count and increased revenue and profits. Netflix OTOH was busy disrupting an entire industry. Companies like Apple, Netflix, and many others likely to be multi-year or even multi-decade stories have had multiple serious drawdowns on their journey to 10x and more, but not many people are good at getting in and out at the right times, and there may be tax factors working against them. Non-tech companies like URI and CAT that have done well are another story. Companies like APP and PLTR you mentioned are much more trading vehicles, and if that's your thing, good luck timing them just right. Sounds like after three good years, you may have let some trades become investments.

Visible_Handle_3770

If you know when the SPY is going to erase 7 months of gains in a matter of weeks, you should not be buying and holding. The reason buy and hold works as a strategy is because most (perhaps even all, depending on your feelings on economic theory) people do not have the knowledge or expertise required to outperform the buy and hold strategy. To the point you make about the starting point mattering, you're absolutely correct, but the problem is again expertise. How do you know when the "right" time to start is? Most people don't, and so the prudent course of action is to buy and hold (dollar cost averaging can help here as well). I'm also not sure the point of your FYI is, it sounds as though you have a very high beta portfolio, considering your mentioned holdings in APP and PLTR, outperforming on the 3 year in the midst of a mostly uninterrupted bull market is to be expected.

err0rz

“Holding and relying on fundamentals” and PLTR are mutually exclusive.

gjbaca17

long USO BNO. Short QQQ SPY IWM TSLA and PLTR. Am I crazy to just trim some small profits on the more expensive positions like high theta options and leveraged ETFs, and just hold the rest through april like my original plan?

cats_are_gay_ama

PLTR calls for so cheap I think I'm gonna dump my entire port into that rn

cbusoh66

This PLTR planned and executed war is going very well. Don't let the fake news media tell you otherwise. PLTR AI just didn't anticipate the closure of Hormuz or attacks on gulf oil infrastructure. Not to worry, Alex Karp is on it personally, things will get better from now on. Trust him bros.

Inca-Vacation

I entered NBIS PLTR NVDA again this morning betting on weekend/market close happy talk so ... maybe?

Bigamungus

They already did the second I pressed buy on those PLTR puts

BonusLumpyYa

PLTR - purely off charts. Heading to $200 by May it looks. Feel free to bookmark this. Cheers

Iunatic

Why the fuck are you trying to exercise this call. PLTR is literally below 150 right now. Go buy 100 shares and a steak dinner you fucking retard

SlartibartfastMcGee

Why the fuck did I panic sell NVDA and PLTR earlier tonight?

Plus_Seesaw2023

Fair enough on the cliché ... reflexive partisan framing doesn't help anyone make better investment decisions. That said, separating "blaming Trump" from "pricing in policy risk" is worth doing. One is politics, the other is just reading the macro environment. When a 10% blanket tariff gets announced and the S&P drops 4% in two days, that's not Reddit being in bed with Google ... LOL ... markets reacting to a real policy input with real earnings implications. And the tariffs are only part of it. Taxpayer funds being directed into very specific sectors = semiconductors (INTC, CHIPS Act), defence-adjacent tech (PLTR), energy ; while the sitting president's personal net worth has reportedly exploded in under 12 months, is a legitimate structural concern. That's not a cliché, that's a conflict of interest worth pricing in.

Andrew_Higginbottom

Is that how you cope against the $147.51 current PLTR price? :)

Andrew_Higginbottom

Actually, totally the opposite. Presidents will come and go but PLTR will always have a side office in the White House.

Andrew_Higginbottom

They talk like not investing in PLTR will stop it from existing..

TomorrowSavings7579

Bears: Oh PLTR so bad company spy on ppl kill ppl oh no Also Bears: NUKE EM!!! 

Icy_Acanthisitta7741

Literally anything (most of the high players) you bought 2 years ago got this much raise. Intel, nvda, msft, ALOY, TSM. PLTR... etc...etc...

Carl_Bravery_Sagan

I'll sell you PLTR at $150/share!

Bigamungus

Puts on PLTR has been free money recently btw

BigDogAlphaRedditor1

The DoD didnt event want Open AI/chat GPT when Sam was there begging for them to take it... US govt are using anthropic Claude through PLTR as the AI Backbone now.

Frank_JWilson

For what? They saved him several hundred bucks. “Yes hello Robinhood I’d like to re-reverse this options exercise so I lose out both on the options premium and over-pay for my PLTR shares. I demand to lose my money.”

cbusoh66

Remember, DoW is running on PLTR software. This is a PLTR war. If this turns into a big mess, the PLTR aura is destroyed. If you think there will be boots on the ground, mission creep, and an economic petrodollar collapse, you only have Alex Karp (and Peter Thiel) to thank for forcing their way into the upper echelons of government and the department of war.

Marky_TCB_08

Sold 10% of all 8 holdings and rebought 10%+ of everything hit the hardest today. I am now happy to be 30k deep in GEV and 20k deep in VRT. My two biggest positions under NVDA, PLTR, & AMZN

Swiftnice

Just a reminder that PLTR is trash software. Stocks going below $30

shaahpapi

Maybe you could just donate the proceeds you get from PLTR? It’s gonna be complicated to exclude it

Swiftnice

If we're entering a period of multiple contraction PLTR holders are fucked lol

Swiftnice

If anyone is in a bad mood today just focus on the PLTR chart drilling and it will make you smile hahaha

reaper527

> By that logic you can certainly argue that PLTR should've done a lot worse because their own CEO Karp sold boatloads of shares for years can you point to him ever selling 20% of his shares? there's a difference between routine planned small selloffs and abnormal substantial ones.

captainstrange94

By that logic you can certainly argue that PLTR should've done a lot worse because their own CEO Karp sold boatloads of shares for years before PLTR mooned

SolidAndEdgy

PLTR¿

Pandoranium

Well, I dont touch TESLA for the same reason. But i love PLTR.

Swiftnice

Dems saying they plan to cut golden dome and PLTR funding if they win the mid-terms lol I can't wait for that trash to go back to $20

Beazt11123

shouldnt war be bullish for PLTR? why they going down?

Swiftnice

PLTR bulls were saying it would never go under 160 again on Monday lol truly the dumbest people on earth

Upset-Motor-2602

Short PLTR? Looks like it is failing miserably to help Kegsbreath in his war efforts.

getoffthetoilets

Which innocent civilians has PLTR killed? Are old military methods better? Where militia strikes unknown areas and people with severed innocent civilian casualties? Or minor? I’m not for war, but if the targets are easier to identify then is that not better than just targeting an area that “maybe they are there”

GoatMeatMafia

Same. Sold PLTR, META, TSLA. Never buying again.

BonusLumpyYa

PLTR $200 by May. As I said, same pattern as ARM.

CharlieSalseroo

The kid prob posting from an iPhone that exploits people in China and exploits children for minerals in africa.. But he doesnt have PLTR so he can sleep at night

CharlieSalseroo

But eventually you might. AirBus uses PLTR to make their company more efficient. If you fly to Europe on an Airbus, PLTR is getting your money. So dont fly on Airbus. But if Boeing hired PLTRx than dont fly ever?

WithMyxomatosis

You’re not understanding the math. A net zero position gets adjusted as the stock increases in value. The SPY for instance is market cap weighted, if PLTR explodes and suddenly constitutes 10% of the index, and you properly initiated your short, you have entirely offset your short positions loss with the long position gain, since PLTR pushed SPY way up.  The infinite risk you describe is for naked shorts, this isn’t a naked short.  Puts introduce premium cost and theta decay, much more complicated to deal with and you’d need round lots of 100 shares for the math to work.  You have to understand the difference between a hedge and a naked short.

WithMyxomatosis

Lots of anger. I’m not sure where those numbers came from, but it’s pretty straightforward that if you have exposure of say, 5% to PLTR via an index, and assuming you own enough of that index to be able to go short an individual component of said index in round lots of 100 shares to hedge the position, you can short an equivalent (or close to it) amount of PLTR. If PLTR goes up, your short losses are offset by the gains PLTR contributes to the index fund.  So it would be more like, you buy $100k of QQQ, let’s say 5% of that is PLTR, you then short $5k of PLTR, not $100k. You have to rebalance, think about slippage, borrowing costs, etc, which is why I said this probably isn’t worth it, but this is a pretty simple thought experiment.

AfraidAnalyst

Based on the portfolios of people who own VCX. RVI HOOD MU SNDK RKLB PLTR IREN NBIS ASTS I haven’t been following the whole VCX thing, but when did WSB make an etf lmao

Swiftnice

PLTR and NVDA bulls will be. lol

UniversitySad994

Switch to PLTR and you’ll be ok

DrPuzzle

I will say a lot of them are legit it's just about sifting through and finding them. But I will also add that usually when you go into these subreddits and you read comments and you see something that's heavily upvoted it usually ends up being fairly good. Or has been for me since back in February of last year. ASTS, RDDT, RKLB, NVO (which did work out for a time), PYPL (horrible lol), PL, PLTR, NVDA (back at $120 when I found it before the April dip to $89 which obviously was a steal), NBIS BEOFRE liberation day at $40. Etc. It's just about finding them and doing a bit of your own due diligence but I will tell you for me a lot of them worked out very well

lostredditorlurking

Some are legit like AMD, NVDA, ASTS, PLTR and even TSLA were all reddit stock pick before they become what they are today

passaloutre

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PLTR/ up 590% https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CPB/ down 58% /u/pizza_bagel_ /u/backlogbeast

nspy1011

PLTR, TSLA and META are the absolute scum of this earth

DeepSpeed2543

Every? The CEOs of PLTR, LMT, NOC, HON, RTX, LHX, etc will likely say "Unexpected TAILwinds", no?

Swiftnice

All PLTR bulls goon to A.I. porn of Alex karp and Peter Thiel every day

flumydumdum

Technicals predict that PLTR will drop quite significantly by the end of the year. So Buying QQQ and shorting PLTR might actually make you money!

CD274

PLTR

Far-Requirement9180

PLTR losing steam already

Swiftnice

PLTR bulls in disbelief lol

Swiftnice

Oh well im mainly looking at PLTR lol

Swiftnice

PLTR bulls never learn. The parabolic gains are over sell while you can lol

e10n

PLTR just cannot fucking hold onto gains.

MarsVenus2000

This resonates. I actually had shares of PLTR that I purchased in 2020 which are now sold. I'm sure the stock price will go up significantly, but seeing Alex Carp speak and the philosophy of that company is nauseating.

Swiftnice

PLTR bulls actually believe golden dome is going to be built lol

magneticpasta9

New index MGTN, why the fuck did they include PLTR other than to fuk b urry over

AntoniaFauci

As sort of an abstract stance you could stick with QQQ then work out the relative weight of just PLTR within the index and take that % and inverse it. It would mean that on a day your fund returns $100 including $5 from PLTR, your counter position would lose $5, keeping you neutral.

PassionV0id

Op isn’t trying to “reduce his exposure” for the sake of his financials. He’s trying to divest from Palantir to better align with ethics. Shorting his position in PLTR (via QQQ) does not accomplish this.

Charming_Raccoon4361

good luck shorting PLTR

Spencer_Use_thisAcc

Can someone explain why PLTR r unethical

rithsleeper

They have a fantastic beginner option course that lays out a lot, even just to learn. But their basic premise is that implied volatility is almost always higher than realized. In other words options are priced richer than they need to be. Essentially selling insurance. They use a metric called Implied Volatility Rank. Basically when “stuff” happens like a war with Iran, more premium is priced into options like Oil stocks. So you SELL options at that time understanding that things will settle down, you have more room to be wrong directionally and mostly they don’t want to pick a direction but be neutral. So in most basic of basic terms and over simplification would be “US attacked Iran. The options on PLTR are super expensive because everyone wants to buy calls and puts hoping for a big move. Let’s sell the 1 standard deviation move on both sides and go out 45 days to expiration. Which is a 120 strike put and 190 strike call. We will collect a credit of $600 for the risk we take on. Now, as long as the stock ends in between those prices in the next 45 days, we get to keep $600, but every dollar it is out of the strikes, we “lose” $100. But we don’t just hope. We manage the position in certain instances. The biggest one is if at any point we hit 50% profit, we close the position. 21 days to expiration hits we either roll it further in time or close the position depending on what is happening, and sometimes we have to “defend” the positions by rolling the untested side. To a beginner it sounds like “wow that might go bad really fast” but that’s why their motto is trade small, trade often. Number of occurrences is key. You are playing statistics. Knowing that the numbers will work out. Essentially you will have a big loss every so often, but if your position size is small, it’s not a big deal, but you get a ton of small wins. Every time I’ve had a set back it’s been cause I opened too big of a position and got greedy, didn’t wait for the IV rank to hit over 40 during dull times. You can define your risk or undefined, lots of strategies that are so much fun and challenging. Really keeps you engaged, and I’ve been profitable even years like 2022. But grand scheme I’m behind the sp500 since we just keep rocketing up. So in a way it’s a super diversification because you can use it for any product like commodities, currencies, stocks, bonds, etc. Look up tastytrade beginners option course and just start. You will be very intrigued.

gushkaper

>I just want to invest in QQQ and EXCLUDE Palantir. Keep buying QQQ and open a \~1% short position on PLTR.

Background-Island923

**$ARM — Pelican's Take** ARM licenses the chip architecture that powers 99% of smartphones. Gross margins are 97.5%. The v9/CSS transition is driving higher royalty rates per chip. The bull case is that ARM becomes the toll booth for the AI era. That said, our system rates it a Sell at current prices. Here's why: **Valuation:** At $136, ARM trades at roughly 179x earnings. We comp it against Cadence CDNS) and Synopsys (SNPS) — the two closest business models (semiconductor IP/EDA licensing, 86% and 75% gross margins respectively). Those peers trade at \~70x P/E and \~12.8x EV/Sales. ARM trades at 2.5x the multiples of its closest comps. Our blended fair value comes in around $54 — DCF gets $43, comps get $51, analyst consensus is $170. **Estimates:** ARM is currently generating roughly $1bn in free cash flow and analysts expect this to grow at a massive CAGR to \~$4bn by 2030. In other words, assuming perfect execution, the business would still trade at \~35x 2030 FCF. Pelican tends to dislike companies trading at very high multiples, like ARM, PLTR, SNOW, etc due to it's valuation centric approach. **What concerns me:** \- R&D is 56% of revenue — margins are still years away from maturity \- SoftBank owns 87% — governance risk and potential share overhang if they sell down \- RISC-V is gaining traction in data centers as a lower-cost alternative \- Qualcomm litigation (trial March 2026) could disrupt a major customer relationship \- Zero insider purchases over the last 12 months The bull case works if: CSS adoption accelerates and ARM captures 50%+ of the hyperscaler CPU market by 2030, pushing data center royalties to $4B annually. **Bottom line:** Great business, but at 2.5x the valuation of its closest peers, a lot has to go right for a long time. I'd want a more attractive entry point. Full report with valuation breakdown, management scoring, and moat analysis: [https://pelicanalpha.com/research/ARM](https://pelicanalpha.com/research/ARM) Full disclosure: I'm the founder of Pelican Alpha. This isn't investment advice. No position in ARM.

I_am_Nerman

Grabbed a bunch of SPY, NVDA, PLTR, GDX calls and sold puts on FLY, IREN, CIFR this week Open The Casino!

KaffiKlandestine

Amazon sells chachkis and force their employees to pee in bottles. Palantir helps the dod bomb schools in iran killing hundreds. If its true that PLTR was the cause of that bombing people in that company should be in jail for war crimes. Notice while we all shit on openai for autonomous killing ai. PLTR is the actual company doing the deployment like they were planning with anthropic

InvestingMonkeys

VSGX has Nestle in it, probably the worst of all companies. ESGV has NVDA in it, which PLTR runs on so I assume OP doesn't want to invest in NVDA either.

WickedSensitiveCrew

It likely because PLTR has more people ok with bashing it. You would never see a thread about defense companies like LMT, RTX, and NOC.

SailorMoon_Fanboy

People acting like PLTR is the only shady company they are invested in cracks tf outta me

Guilty-Deer-2147

Crazy how sometimes you can just perfectly time the market from pure, dumb luck. Got PLTR puts yesterday for no reason, cashed out when the stock tanked -5% today, flipped to HOOD calls and SCO (2x oil short etf) EOD and then got the green Shrek after hours.

LordFaquaad

Ok. Darfur was declared a genocide by the US. Even the UN said that it was a path to genocide and it went to the ICC. [Darfur | Holocaust Encyclopedia](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/darfur#:~:text=The%20United%20States'%20Determines%20Genocide,and%20the%20Sudanese%20government%20responsible.) Even putting that aside, do you think that banks don't take positions in Israel lol? [Some of the biggest US banks have underwritten billions of dollars in Israeli bonds! - Workers Revolutionary Party](https://wrp.org.uk/features/some-of-the-biggest-us-banks-have-underwritten-billions-of-dollars-in-israeli-bonds/) If PLTR is complicit in genocide by selling Israel weapons then so is Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, banks, KKR, Blackrock, etc for funding and aiding it. At that point you may as well divest completely from the stock market. Hell McDonalds was openly supporting and supply IDF soldiers food. Why palantir and not the actual financiers of the war? Or i'm guessing its because you ahve positions in banks and want to justify it

That_Inspector_4385

and people said it was wayyy overpriced then too lmao..and they said the same when it went to 34 in 2021 after IPO in 2020...and they said the same in 2022 at 7 lol .... I thinkkkkkkk in 10 years - we will look back,..and say "wow, PLTR was undervalued at 200/share" lol

goddamon

The solution is personal indexing/custom indexing. I think Schwab and Fidelity both offer their own version, there are a few other platforms out there that offer something similar. There is usually a minimum though. Basically you can choose an index and the computer will automatically buy some(not all) of the components. You can choose to exclude certain companies like PLTR so it’s not in your portfolio. Usually the fee is higher, but not too much higher.

Scriptum_

Yes, you can work out your PLTR exposure from QQQ and short an equal amount. It will even display the cost of you morality in real-time!

Cousin_Elroy

Genocide is a big stretch. Profiting from war is more accurate. Genocide means intentional eradication of an ethnic group or race. PLTR isn’t a good company but its not comparable to the holocaust or Rwanda genocide lol

hokyk

For the same reason I sold my PLTR shares back in 2023 at around $12 per share ✌🏻🥲

stephendt

Just put aside a bit extra to short PLTR

Vendebtah

I do not so I can avoid buying any PLTR. Others however I get do not have the choice to exclude PLTR from their funds. That sucks. Still not an excuse to forego morales.

Vendebtah

I get it but thats the attitude thats lead us to electing a rapist as president. Money. Money. Money. That cant be your entire identity you know? I think its actually irresponsible to exclude emotions when dealing with a company like PLTR. There's a time and place to reflect. Don't be a psychopath.

LordFaquaad

PLTR doesnt hold a candle to the clusterfuck created by the banks in 2008. The damage they caused lead to pure misery + suicides. same goes for most PE, insurers (health and other sectors), pharma, etc.

Ratermelon

You're doing the right thing by looking for a way to avoid PLTR. Money isn't everything, and *I'm* not going to reward early investors of an evil company. Ignore the amoral haters.

banff_lover

This is why this sub is petulant adults. If you go beyond virtue signaling there are many other names whose business are ethically not the best. You can make your own etf by mixing a bunch of them rather than trying to farm karma here. No- I don’t hold PLTR.

Junglebook3

First I would find the % of Palantir from the NASDAQ to figure out if it's worth it. For every $100k you've got $1,780 in Palantir. Other defense, cyber companies in QQQ: Company Ticker Est. Weight Why it's like Palantir Palantir PLTR 1.78% Data/AI OS for Gov & Enterprise CrowdStrike CRWD 0.31% Cloud-native "Shield" for the Gov Axon AXON 0.25% Public safety data & AI ecosystems Honeywell HON 0.44% The hardware/industrial base for defense Palo Alto PANW 0.40% Massive federal security infrastructure If you're convinced you don't want to hold Palantir you can short its % of your holdings, for example with put options.

Professional_Monkeys

You're mixing emotions with investing. Did you know half the other tickers in QQQ do business directly or indirectly with each other including PLTR? Also, it's poised for a rebound.

wrongrobertpatrick

PLTR is now officially SKYNET

crywhenugetolder

Anduril and PLTR part of the group developing software for Golden Dome as per WSJ

te7037

It will replace $PLTR, more likely. I'm buying the shares.

Old-Commercial1159

I’m an average person and researched companies thoroughly and found some winners ($PLTR, $RKLB, $OPEN). I found just as many losers but that’s life. The average must have made money over the last two years. Pretty difficult not to.

Initial_Ad_9250

This is the part where you show your true loyalty to the overlords at PLTR and Thiels fund by buying calls