SPY

Starkfault

SPY gonna do the BABA speedrun?

mayorolivia

Intel really is gonna be a top SPY performer this year. What a joke. Company’s financials are a flaming hot pile

CMDR_Shepard96

You watch them rule for tariffs.. SPY 650 EOW

Sover47

I'm new to this. Invest in what? VOO? SPY?

Sidney_Godsby

Just know that, only a little bit below your comment, someone on the other side of the shillver trade unironically listed two equities and their yoy performance: SPY (12%), SLV (140%). Be grateful for your wrinkles, not everyone is so fortunate

Morning6655

Watch the notional. If the market dumps 30%, you are already at 70K due to your long positions and the margin requirement for these puts will expand rapidly and you will end up with margin call or forced liquidation. I will sell less puts but at higher delta. This will keep your notional exposure under control. In you example, SPY put is less than 5% OTM and we have seen market drop much more than that in 30 days. This is a recipe for disaster. If you had this end of march 2025 and your account will be wiped/liquidated by April 7th 2025.

hypeaze

SPY 1 year return: 18.5% Silver 1 year return: 196.5%

Rayn7Reborn

We need an SPY and Nasdaq correction more than anything else. Until the market begins pricing all this risk, it’s not to be trusted.

bearhunter429

#Oh shit SPY is down -0.2%. That means Microsoft will be down 6% tomorrow. LMAO🤌

1098duc_w_the_termi

Just checked the Feds balance sheet trends and it looks like it’s bottomed. So we got monetary stimulus AND fiscal stimulus going into effect this year. SPY 1000 by eoy

vermilli21

I’m from the future in Japan, tomorrow SPY 697

Successful_Tap5662

When to close/manage my PMCC? I currently have a PMCC on SPY. I initiated a long call at 80 Deltas about 160 days out, and grabbed a short call about 25 to 30 delta about 60 days out. I can understand that the short call is easy to target a 50% close, or perhaps roll into a new short call for a premium at some point when the call is too close to expiry. What I don’t understated though: • what is the minimum days to expiry on the long call that you want to hold? Are PMCC best if long is never less than 90 days or something of the like? • I closed one short call for $100 profit and reopened further our a few weeks ago. Now that SPY is melting up, my long call is about 4 deltas more in profit and naturally my short call is at a loss. The position at a whole is up about 3%. The reality is that the short call could never be back OTM, so i assume there is a tome where it’s just better to close the full position and re-establish. But are there any guidelines of when it’s best to take the profit on the spread and resetting?

TWSTrader

I want to gently pump the brakes on your definition of "Conservative." You are proposing a strategy that is **3.5x Leveraged** ($100k long stocks + $250k notional short puts = $350k exposure on $100k equity). This works fine in a bull market, but here is the mechanic you are missing regarding the "Worst Case" scenario: **Correlation Risk & The Double Whammy.** **1. The "Safety" Flaw** You listed Apple, MSFT, NVDA, NFLX, and SPY. These are not diversified. They are all high-beta Tech/Market proxies. In a market crash, the correlation between these assets goes to 1.0. They will all drop together. **2. The Liquidation Mechanics (Answering your specific question)** You asked what happens if you get assigned. Here is the math of a 20% market correction: * **Your Collateral Drops:** Your existing $100k in stocks drops to **$80k**. * **Your Liability Explodes:** Your $250k in puts are now Deep ITM. You are assigned stock that is worth only $200k, but you pay $250k for it. That is a **$50k realized loss**. * **The Result:** * Start Equity: $100k. * Less Portfolio Drop: -$20k. * Less Put Loss: -$50k. * **Remaining Equity: $30k.** * **New Margin Loan:** \~$250k (to buy the assigned stock). * **Total Position Value:** \~$280k. You now have **$30k of Equity controlling $280k of stock.** That is roughly **10% Equity.** Most brokers (Reg T) require 25% to 50% maintenance margin overnight. Even Portfolio Margin usually requires 15%. **The Consequence:** The broker will not wait for you to deposit cash. Their risk algorithm will auto-liquidate. They will sell your long-term holds (AAPL, MSFT) and the newly assigned stock indiscriminately until your leverage ratio is back in line. **My Advice:** Do not confuse "Probability of Profit" (high win rate) with "Risk" (severity of loss). Selling 2.5x leverage in naked puts on high-beta tech is aggressive, not conservative. If you want to sleep at night, keep your notional value closer to your actual liquidation value.

havntmadeityet

Need to start taking bigger risks. I usually just play SPY daily’s with about 2k. Daddy needs to eat though where can I dump like 35k

Sick0h

This mf really put out the bat signal with “TIME TO INVEST”. Idk I think a few 0DTE calls at open seem pretty god damn reasonable given the history. Who knows why. Maybe tariff money just starts getting dumped straight into SPY as part of the agreement lmao.

cheezzinabox

SPY $500 again in April then $900 eoy would be nice

Otterpoopie

#Can’t wait until SCOTUS upholds tariffs and SPY pumps anyway LMAO 🤌

No-Anteater5184

!banbet SPY $715 1D

No-Anteater5184

If the Supreme Court rules against tariffs tomorrow, I predict spy to $715 tomorrow !banbet SPY $715 1D

version-two

Haha I wanted slightly less degen than 0dte SPY. But yeah maybe fuck it - I’ll pull out after 15. 🍆

savior517

As long as I profit by Friday on these SPY calls, IDGAF what's goin in at this point!

I_Sniff_Uranus

Started 2025 with $40k. Bought $10k worth of MU call leaps in January. Bought $5k in SPY puts the day before liberation day. By April 8th my account was around $80k. I sold my MU puts for a loss around the same time because I was convinced the tariffs would destroy the economy and didn’t anticipate the TACO trade. Essentially I kept buying monthly SPY puts until my account went to zero. My MU calls expire this month and as of today they would be worth $240k if I held onto them instead of sold them. My account should have been worth $300k if I just held onto to my initial positions. Ending account value: $3.81 (-99.99%)

dawgtor

!banbet SPY 700 3d

LitterBoxServant

SLV has had more options activity than IWM lately. That puts it third behind only SPY and QQQ. Regards out here in full force.

Ok_Ambassador_4311

Buy more SPY 0dte options

dataCollector42069

I pulled out of my riskier equities as Greenland, Iran, and just general economy not being too healthy. Not touching my SPY port in my 401k. Made good gains from stuff like MU, OKLO, CRWV, and NBIS and took profit

Total_Schedule591

They don't know how to bet unless its SPY

pixelatedCorgi

Quarter percent down day on SPY is basically the holocaust for most people here

Comfortable733

SPY 770 0DTE lotto get rich lambo lambo lambo boobs

luke2120

Where are you getting this ratio of $50k margin requirement for $250k of stocks? Your broker should tell you that on the order ticket. Ex selling the spy 669 put for Feb 13 would req about $7,300. That req will increase if the stock moves lower. Thinkorswim by Schwab lets you simulate all of this for free, they also provide demos of their platform I think. I would not consider this diversified as they are highly correlated and tech. The SPY is like 50% weighted to those stocks too. So if all those stocks move together against you, you will quickly be screwed. I would recommend stress testing this kind of trade so you can see what your account can handle, if not you could easily take too much risk and lose your $100,000. Thinkorswim (at least while owned by TD Ameritrade ) had a paper money practice version to play with Monopoly money

grantern2

Before JPOW leaves office, he should market sell 1 million shares of SPY using the Treasury’s brokerage account.

TeknoAdmin

Time to leave SPY and friends. Everything is doing better than US markets. The mango effect

No_Lobster_1102

Ate Korean today, puts on my stomach. I mean buy SPY puts tomorrow guys.

neutralpoliticsbot

just need SPY to drop 5% tomorrow to break even

Competitive-Elk9326

“Just in case I don’t lose everyone on the SLV puts I’ll add some SPY and QQQ puts just to make sure”

daners101

I actually think these will print. The rally in SLV is looking exhausted. Consolidation is coming. The SPY puts I wouldn’t count on. But the squeeze in SLV is way overdone. Massive profit taking is inevitable.

Externox

That’s crazy I just saw it damn , just like me the other day with SPY sold to early would’ve made 30k but what thing for sure if we get to see another day and profit it’s profit

Neel_Crashkari

There's a burning sensation in my groin SPY 695

Gom_KBull

yes... most tech bears moved to metals since it is outperforming weak ass SPY and Qs

lipmanz

SPY 700 this week people

cowboycookie1337

1% an hour on SLV and you schmucks are busy flipping shitty 0dtes on SPY

BullishDaily

Seconding this. Not just green SPY blows past 700…

baristabull

Went full regard and put all my cash in SPY options for a SCOTUS decision that may or may not happen tomorrow. I bet they push the decision back just to fuck my options and the market goes sideways just to fuck me. 🙃

quuxquxbazbarfoo

That's fine to not know it all yet, that's why the suggestion to get it invested into an S&P500 index (largest 500 publicly traded companies in the USA) while you learn more is a reasonable suggestion in my opinion. S&P500 is the benchmark that most other things are compared against to determine if they were "successful", i.e. did they beat the S&P500? When you hear about people saying so and so "beat the market", they're almost always talking about them outperforming the S&P500 specifically. So if you invest into an S&P500 index fund like VOO, FXAIX, SPY (separate S&P500 index funds managed by Vanguard, Fidelity, and Spyder repsectively) you will be matching the "market rate". Whether that is a gain or a loss is another story. Order of importance of what accounts to put money into is generally described on this sub as: 1.) 6 months of expenses in HYSA (i.e. money market fund, highly liquid) as "emergency fund" 2.) 401k contributions to meet full employer match 3.) Max an IRA 4.) Max out the 401k contribution 5.) Taxable brokerage As far as what investments to make, if you're young something like 50% S&P500 index or US total market index (like VT), 50% Global index this sub might recommend. But it depends on your risk tolerance. There are other funds that have a good chance to outperform those, but you might see -50% on a down year where S&P500 might just be down -20%. Personally I like to research companies and pick stocks, but I'm also not a professional, so I like to hedge my picking by allocating around 50% of my entire account portfolio to S&P500, then pick riskier index funds or individual stocks with the rest. I also spend all day every day focusing on it, which not everyone wants to do, so the general recommendation on this sub (this sub slants to low-risk consistent gain over time) is to stick to index funds.

BullishDaily

Yeah but if SCOTUS shoots down tariffs tomorrow SPY might do it

BullishDaily

SPY 700?

BullishDaily

SPY 700 ready to fly?

Fhyzikz

I think SPY 700 might just be a myth. I'm losing faith, brother

BullishDaily

SPY 700 tomorrow would literally make me kneel down and praise all that is holy

roke34442

I have been doing good with 0dte SPY options. Don’t keep them long. Today I made 4 trades in and out in the first hour and sat with cash the rest of the day. My best trade was 106% in 6 minutes. I only made $250 today but once I get more confidence in my strategy I hope to increase my bets. I am not in a hurry.

Fhyzikz

Take that, rewind it back. Usher got the beat to make SPY 700

ComfortablePiglet842

RIP all the millions of 0dte SPY call holders today. Looks like a lot of people really thought 700 today

financiallythriving

SPY +2% tomorrow and I’ll quit options forever I swear on my foreskin

Boston-Bets

I'm looking long term, to get my RKT shares into a Tax-Free/Deferred "Exchange Fund" but that will likely be after 1-3 after RKT and the Housing upswing runs it's course. Right now, to me SPY = AI bubble driven.

Scribble_Box

Fr. Gf asks whether she should buy a new toy for the dog. 25 dollars for that piece of Chinese plastic trash that he's never going to touch? Hell no. Fucking rip off. Then proceed to lose 2k in SPY 0dtes....

Sidney_Godsby

SPY = / = SLV lmao

No-Improvement3164

SPY is Almost 100 percent higher than the bottom in 2022

FartCanCivic

Meh, more like to play the red and black days accordingly and stay out on those Green Day’s (lol, American idiot started playing in my head), it helps the compounding effect when you have core positions (like SPY) but again, most people can’t do it, sometimes even the ones that can.

Sharp-Direction-6894

I bought x2 1dte SPY 690 puts earlier. They closed down.

Mental_Ingenuity_310

Cause when we default on our debt, lower rates, and print money you will wish you could buy SPY under 1000 Can’t sell stock cause there is no where to put money safely cause our currency is about to be intentionally pillaged

DRCAG3SUN

!banbet SPY 680 7d

trent_upscale

I once made love to a Puerto Rican woman #SPY 700

financiallythriving

Is my SPY 950c 1dte I picked up today gonna print tomorrow

JakeSal10

OCGN calls too, SPY puts

Aggressive_Instance1

Just use market orders with Schwab...1k contract order on SPY will easily be filled in seconds. Plus, you watch the bid get raised to your market order/ask price. Youre best to watch and wait til there are abt 2500 sells waiting and click buy/ and kaboom, filled at that price. Read the Level2 and watch the tape - your 1k contracts will quickly be followed by other orders. 1k contracts in 5 seconds isn't the moving the market.

iShitBloodandCumShit

SPY = dog shit SPX = god shit

grantern2

The fib boyz are shorting SPY tomorrow

grantern2

Yes, it’s the perfect time do invest in 0dte SPY puts

Crazy_Donkies

Nah. Investors are expecting swings in either direction.  Call put ratio is still favoring calls, last I read.   You know vix looks at SPY calls and puts, right? 

himaalayan

VIX spiked while SPY being flat, corn up 5%, not looking good for market tomorrow

PalpitationSmooth992

SPY options are easy if you just wait til the last 30 min strangled and straddled my way to 1500 profit for the day and free 694 calls key is to use a real broker that lets you close 0day up to 15 min after close

Leaguefin4073

Hello, I am so happy that I found this thread as I have a question suitable for it. I know there is abundance of threads explaining how vertical contracts must be closed and not executed for profit, but I have not found an answer for my specific question. First of all my broker is Tastytrade, and yes, I feel stupid about contacting them in this matter. The stock is not index like SPY, and I did not find anything about the contacts getting cash-settled if kept untill expiration. There surely must be somewhere something about this situation and I would be very grateful if someone could point it out for me. My situation: If I have ITM bull call spread (call debit spread), but it has very low liquidity and I am afraid that I will not be able to sell it anywhere near the profit that I would get from the execution of the both legs, and the time is running out, what are my possibilities? It is also important to mention that I possibly do not have enough funds on my margin account to buy the stock. (I can free it up, but I would prefer not to). Besides, how would it work with the short leg? I have kept my account so tiny that I do not even have the margin benefits enabled on it, although it is a margin account. Does anyone have clear information/experience? What is the best thing to do? I don't think I will be able to sell it before expiration.

AuttieBear

SPY is gonna make me wait an hour after market open to trade

andytobbles

POTUS just said it’s time to invest, last time he said that shit SPY went up 10% lmfao

financiallythriving

I deserve a SPY +3% day tomorrow

cannythecat

🥭 says to buy, SPY 705 tomorrow

Yoghurt-Ancient

!banbet SPY 700 1d

hypeaze

+10% SPY day tomorrow 

Shambolini5

\#1 Find a strategy that you feel comfortable with. For me this is only trading my SPY strategy, this is my edge and it is my ONLY edge. This is the reason I can actually make money consistently. \#2 Have someone in your life who can keep you accountable and consistent. This is the most important thing. For me, this is my gf, she has helped me claw my way from the depths of hell by keeping me accountable. I couldn't do it without her support. \#3 Use your strategy ONLY, no FOMO. Stocks will fly by and posts will convince you to dump your money in a stock but this is not a smart play for a beginner. \#4 Find your own edge. A robotic strategy alone is too hollow. The market is too unpredictable. You need to learn how a stock moves, and how your strategy relates to it. You need to learn exactly when to sell when you're up, when to cut losses when you're down. Not to revenge trade. For me, this took months of losing. Several months ago I made 20k and ended up with 0 in the end. Just know that experience is your best teacher and every loss brings you closer to understanding. Options are amazing if you can be disciplined.

Own-Interest-7649

He was needed for SPY 700

d33p7r0ubl3

SPY went down.

Humble_Code_6501

Is this the first SPY's red day of the year ?

sailortyx56

Financials got cuked today. Took down SPY too. Thanks to Jamie Dimon. Never fails to disappoint.

kstreetsushi

GG did you not see that momentum at the end?? SPY 700 will pay tmr.

kstreetsushi

GG did you not see that momentum at the end?? SPY 700 will pay tmr.

ZealousidealSector19

I am now feeling SPY $700 by Friday. I'll sell you what I'm on. It's not cheap

Put_Er_There_Sport

Thatd be a cool +2.45% on SPY and my wallet would like that

Valkorion335786

SPY 700c, like my father held in the 1990s...

moorhound

People that won out on that last SPY pump: a.) Irrationally optimistic gamblers b.) Inside traders

RedStag1905

anybody else sell their SPY 693 calls at 3:30 for a loss? Just me?

SmashAtoms_

I should've backed the truck up on SPY calls 20 min ago smh

Jolly-Reflection-983

SPY puts print tomorrow

I_am_Nerman

The infamous 3:50 candle. Moving SPY $1

FarWay9137

Is this when SPY shoots up to end the day green?

Ok_Cry7572

No way, the markets crash now when Netflix, meta, apple are all below 100D MA when SPY is close to ATH

LiveMotivation

SPY might break 700 tomorrow

Tundra1111

Realistically SPY 700 tmrw is possible, we can rebound

moorhound

**SPY 700** ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ ⠀ 🤚 🐂

Captain_Lameson

Is SPY about to rip tomorrow assuming SCOTUS Tariff news comes out as them being illegal?

LeBhikariLe

SPY gathering momentum on the down leg