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Anyone else buying the dip in internationals ex US?
Global stocks have out performed the S&P nearly 2-fold in 2025
When should I start “diversifying” and lowering my risk? (Based on age)
After-Hours Gainers and Losers for Today (September 19, 2025) 📈 📉
What is your go-to ex-US ETF? If you want international momentum, what do you use?
What is an alternative to voo that is much cheaper but tracks the same companies (similar fees too)
The case for foreign bonds: IGOV has 25.2% gap over VTI for 90-day returns
The case for foreign bonds: IGOV has 25.2% gap over VTI for 90-day returns
Here's a reality check from Empower on 90 day returns: Foreign bonds +8.51%, US stock -10.08%
Diversifying a 3 fund portfolio while still aligning with the fundamentals...
How to replicate VEU or equivalent Global ex. US ETF sold in the UK?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
How best to reinvest cash from dividends earned in my Traditional and Roth IRA
Looking to expand my Roth IRA and I want to make sure it makes sense to add the ETFs I am considering.
What do you guys all use for your core international fund?
Is there anything wrong with my current investing strategy?
SCHD beating VTI in Monte Carlo Simulation. But HOW Is This Possible?
Which to pick SCHD, VOO, VIG, VTI, VT, VYM, VXUS, VEU?
How Do You Make Your Regular Buying Contributions?
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I prefer (and have been advocating) VEU and it's still beating VTI YoY, YTD.
I did brother. VEU and VGK mainly.
I prefer VEU but VXUS is good.
If you look at VEU though it's still winning 2026 YTD not just YoY vs VOO. US will do more retarded shit no doubt and international will win again.
DXY is above 101 which has been a resistance level going back to March 2025. DXY did break above 110 in 10/22 and hit 110 in 1/25. But a DXY above 101 has been a BTD opportunity for International stocks all year. Think of it as selling high on the USD and buying low on $VXUS, $VEU, $EWJ, or whatever foreign stock or ETF that catches your fancy. I think the bigger concern should be that the DXY is only at 101.31 despite Crude Oil being above $95. Crude oil is sold in USD, so higher crude oil prices creates stronger USD demand. The fact that the DXY can't break out despite higher crude oil prices is very telling about the loss of value of USD.
Im actually really proud of it —I rebalanced into a stagflationary portfolio at beginning of June but without bonds or gold (cause cpi is made up bullshit, and gold just had that giant run in 2025). I’ve actually beaten S&P, DoW & Nasdaq every month since. Heavy value & international tilt running 55-45 us/ex and 75/25 large/SCV within each sleeve. Mostly advantis funds AVDV,AVUV, AVLV and then FZLIX in Roth (for tax purposes) and VEU for more large cap international exposure (outside of Roth). My 401k doesn’t have a fantastic selection so that where I keep my US exposure vfiax (cause ya gotta have some S&P hedge) and dffvx for more US scv… anyway, was up, but now flat :( still im convinced it’s the best long term plan for a 1973-83 repeat domestically
VEU hitting new ATHs keeping me green today. Feels good to be an international investor lately.
VEU hitting new ATHs keeping me green today. Feels good to be an international investor lately.
VEU hitting new ATHs today. I'm very happy to be an international investor lately.
Not sure if you've been paying attention but VGK crushed SPY last year 36% vs 17%. Europe actually has very responsible fiscal and monetary policy now vs. the US and far more sustainable model. Yes some highly indebted bad apples but as a whole strong overall and nations with very low debt and running large surpluses. All while taking care of their citizens far better. VEU has also performed very well. The world is catching on. US is broke, defaulting on debt, increasingly unstable politically, getting ass kicked in wars and printing money desperately to cover it all up.
Not sure if you've been paying attention but VGK crushed SPY last year 36% vs 17%. Europe actually has very responsible fiscal and monetary policy now vs. the US and far more sustainable model. Yes some highly indebted bad apples but as a whole strong overall and nations with very low debt and running large surpluses. VEU has also performed very well
VGK, VEU mostly. Last year VGK crushed SPY 36% vs. 17%. I think as US becomes more politically unstable, less trusted place for capital it's going to underperform more.
Get out of USD assets. My VGK crushed SPY in 2025, 36% vs. 17%. VEU was similar. Going forward people are catching on country is politically unstable, institutions breaking down, broke, defaulting on debt, getting ass kicked in wars and printing money to cover it all up.
VEU or VXUS. US fiscal credibility and ability to address long term sustainability is rapidly deteriorating. The intervention in bonds this morning is just the latest in reaching for short term solutions while greatly increasing the fragility of US market and economy over time. Honestly it simply does not make rational sense to be 100% all eggs in US stocks without diversifying and hedging outside of it.
On one hand I’m thinking don’t brag— Lady Luck will ruin you for it, but on the other hand, more people buying same ETFs can’t hurt… so I boastfully inform y’all that I have beaten the S&P, DoW and Nasdaq consistently on most days including today (and on the monthly averages) since my march rebalance.. I dumped most domestic AI- though kept foreign chips, dumped weighted S&P etf, and am up to tits in advantis value funds and VEU (and FZLX in Roth for tax reasons). Total weight 55/45 US/Ex, and 75/25 large small within each sleeve. You’re welcome
Ah ok. Appreciate it but IMO there's no such thing as actually protected. Puts are mighty expensive and drag on returns. There can be periods of chop too. I like international. My VGK and VEU is beating SPY (I've added more recently) and I think long term the future of the globe is realistically outside the US.
VEA, VEU time, again
Buy VEU for some international. Or some AVNV if you like value.
international stocks (VEA, VEU, EEM) may get a catch up bid after / if Iran conflict ends
Which is why diversification matters and VEU is great. It holds large cap, emerging and 74% developed. Even emerging though, it's the future, not the US. Short term it could fluctuate but US going down will be gradual with money printing over 10-20 years then suddenly people will realize it's irreversible. People keep thinking "US going down" means crash is imminent. US going down is going to look a lot less like an instant crash and more of a slow unraveling until it becomes so painfully obvious, capital will suddenly flee.
I like VEU. Also like VGK is good for Europe which is highly stable, very strong fiscal and credible. VXUS is great too I've seen mentioned here. monetary policy. AVIV I think I've seen is Avantis large cap international with a value tilt.
>a 60% VTI, 20% VEU, and 20% QQQM portfolio. that's actually 80% VTI and 20% VEU. QQQM is just a sub-set of VTI. VTI is practically the entire US market, and QQQm is the top 100 non-financial stocks that list on the Nasdaq exchange. holding both VTI and QQQ means you're doubling up on some of the largest US companies. doubling up increases your risk because VTI and QQQM are likely to crash at the same time for the same reasons. it's not outrageously terrible, but be aware of the risk potential. > I am looking for high growth with as little risk as possible pick one or the other. the higher the growth potential, the higher the possible risk. >1) in a taxable UTMA account, would it be better to just consolidate the QQQM future purchases to VTI? probably. I would recommend something more like VT which covers the entire global stock market. or perhaps AOA which has about 50% US stocks, 30% international stocks and 20% bonds. the bonds will tend to act as a "shock absorber" in the event of a crash and minimize losses. >if the VTI is likely to perform better, VTI has performed better than VEA over the *past* 10-15 years, but that doesn't necessarily say anything about the *next* 10-15 years. at current valuations, it would not be a surprise if VEA performed better than VTI over the next 10-15 years.
60% VTI, 20% VEU, and 20% QQQM is fine. So is 100% VTI. So is 100% VOO. So is 50% VOO and 50% QQQM. I don't know why Google would say anything about QQQM specifically with respect to taxable accounts. It's going to be more volatile than the others because it's more concentrated, so I guess Google considers that more risky, but it has nothing to do with txable/non-taxable.
I’m looking to pick all of your brains a bit and let Reddit do what it does best to give me a lot of ideas/perspectives with the upvotes showing me the preferred routes or at least where to start looking more. \-I have no investing background \-I’ve had three calls with front-level investing reps, but they can’t make recommendations, so they’ve only given me minimal general information \-I’m SPECIFICALLY looking for information to guide UTMA accounts I have 6 UTMA brokerage accounts that I’ve JUST started (all of the accounts should be under my control for about 15-21 years depending on the child. I plan to put in $850 total per month split in the accounts. I am looking for high growth with as little risk as possible (well more so keeping it responsible risk), but if the accounts went to zero it would not be the end of the world. I chose the UTMA accounts rather than a 529 because each of the kids gets 8 years of tuition waived. I’m open to the 529 if it’s significantly better, even with my kids having the 8 years covered, and doesn’t require a ton of hoops to convert to Roths. Ideally I want to accounts to benefit my children long before their retirement age. I also want the accounts to stay in the children’s names for protection against any divorce potentials.. although I don’t foresee that being an issue. I am still trying to rapidly piece together the best plan, but I have currently invested the first month’s money in a 60% VTI, 20% VEU, and 20% QQQM portfolio. I have since done a little more looking and Google ai seems to think QQQM is more risky for taxable accounts, but I’m not sure why or how yet. So my main questions are: 1 in a taxable UTMA account, would it be better to just consolidate the QQQM future purchases to VTI? 2 is VEU even worth holding on top of VTI if the account is not detrimental to retiring? Or in other words, if the VTI is likely to perform better, is it worth just focusing more/all into that and cut out the extra diversification that may not return as well? I don’t mean to offend anyone by the choices I’ve made so far… I am not hard pressed on these choices, so if I’m completely wrong… I’m highly teachable. I’m primarily looking to do the same investment each month for 20 years without having to watch and understand markets. I don’t need to make millions, but the more.. the better (within reasonable risks). Thanks a ton! My kids will appreciate it!
I bought deep in to international in April. Am like 45% overall in VEU and AVDV etc now— big fucking mistake. I lose 2-3% then get 1-2% back, then repeat… every week for last two months. This profit taking in Korea is fucking eating me alive… Still I’d rather be there in AI then heavy in Elon and Mag 7 crap.
Do you make investing decisions based on a sample size of one year? If you bought Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Index Fund (VEU) 1 year ago you would indeed have outperformed a US fund like the s&p. VEU returned 22.24% and SPY returned 20.13%. Great work. You beat the US market by excluding them. If you bought VEU in 2007 (March 26), before the great recession (when it was first made), you would be up 60.91% If you bought SPY on the same date, you'd have returned 440%.
Ya know I’m surprised how little my VEU is down today— FZLIX in my ROTH though will surly hemorrhage 2% though
low volatility and quality ETF's are one idea. I like VEU for international, VPU because utilities are boring and have long term Power Purchase Agreements.
Is buying a large amount of VTV a good way to diversify from tech as my portfolio is heavily invested in tech. I aim to put 4-6k a month into VTV and VEU to get diversify.
Also, as long as you are not a cuck (unfortunately, most people are), you can choose different index funds that don't invest in US stocks like $VEU or $VXUS or some shit.
Would do: 20% XLK because tech is gonna lead the next 25 years just like it did the last 25 year. 40% VOO for S&P 500 20% VEU for international 20% VIG for dividend and growth
I mean I'm deeply invested in US assets as is. I would rather buy 10% OTM calls on VEU than SPY if you wanted to gamble.
Yet another reason to buy int'l stock indexes, VEU, VEA etc
Now you have to be careful w/ World ex-US indices like $VXUS and $VEU. I did add a bit to my $VXUS position last Thursday and that selloff Friday hurt my port hard. $VXUS or $VEU (I think they are both very similar) will have more volatility than $VTI or even $VT due to Americans having DXY dollar risk. The upside & downside risks are much more volatile. But I figure I am being paid in USD for my salary so I should accept that volatility as I am also hedging my salary.
Looks like int'l (VEU, VEA) is back to index leadership over US.
My regular mostly global large cap index ETFs won’t change as the S&P 500 makes up my U.S. portion and my ex-U.S large cap tilted VEU won’t be affected. My growth slice will switch to VONG on a DCA basis to get a little exposure via the Russell 1000 assuming it won’t be that long for growth categorization. The new VDG is my non-US largish growth so that won’t be affected. My small caps are small cap value slices so no real effect for the us version (iShares ISCV), and of course bonds are not affected.
Fair criticism. My goal was a simple long-term Roth with a U.S. tilt, but I get the overlap point. I’m reconsidering whether the single stocks are worth holding separately when VOO/VGT already cover most of that exposure. For international, I used VXUS for broad coverage, but I see your point on adding an international small-cap value sleeve like AVDV instead of only using total market. Would you personally run VOO / VEU / AVUV / AVDV only, and if so, what percentages?
Dumb. You already own meta google and Eli Lilly in your S&P 500 and VGT. You have a SCV sleeve for US (AVUV) but none for international (AVDV) and instead hold total market in your international VXUS. VOO, VEU, AVDV and AVUV. Cover everything you want with less mess and without overlap. Your percentages are also shit. What’s actual global distribution? 60/40 US/Ex You are (arguably) 90/10. Which isn’t off from most US traders, but it is still wrong re balancing out of America in next decade (and what actual market distribution should have you at).
The S&P 500 is contemplating reducing its IPO wait from 12 months to 6 months so it won’t be an almost immediate addition. It is waiving some other requirements for mega-IPOs too but maybe burnt by Tesla criticism. The best way is add a low cost non-US index at/near market cap reducing exposure almost 50%, such as Vanguard’s VEU that concentrates on the mostly largest non-US stocks with a featherweight 0.04% expense ratio.
Thanks for sharing. Honestly I'm watching Warsh's first meeting very closely. If he doesn't convince me that he wants to restore credibility of Fed, that's it. I feel like every man for himself. I will also deploy a huge chunk from cash to World Ex US in VEU. Should be similar to VXUS but I think VXUS just has more small caps but track closely.
VEU has been the place to be for over a year now. That’s where I’m at now with about 50% of my portfolio.
Come Monday $25,000 SGOV. I'm a bear and market is very high right now. But honestly... in 15 days if Fed keeps printing $12,500 VEU and $12,500 TQQQ.
Why would a "Non US" fund buy any US shares? It's the definition of what makes up that index, eg VEU-Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US ETF | Vanguard https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profile/veu
Put $25,000 in SGOV. Pray that Warsh does the right thing and starts to fix the Fed. Make it truly independent. Not just of politics but also the insatiable appetite of Wall St. Wait 17 days. If he doesn't or can't and printer is still on. Put half in VEU and half in TQQQ.
Relativity. Try reading. Asian markets, Canada, EU are all trashing the US performance especially when you consider USD devaluation which matters a lot to foreign investors. E.g VEU (world excl US) is up 50% since trump. VFV is up only 20%. Hell, the Chinese indices are up near double vs the S&P when you account for the USD devaluation so OP's insistance it's because the S&P is doing better than the Chinese indices is completely wrong.
VTI is good but it’s US only. Throw in VEU (rest of the world) and you’re golden. In time you can start adding short term bonds but it may be too early for that. Don’t sell the dips. Keep invested. Keep investing. Best times to buy is when there is blood on the street. Good luck.
I have a fair amount of cash sitting in my bank, approximately 50 grand. I plan to invest maybe 30k of it soon, mostly into VT and maybe VEU. At what rate should I do this? Does it make sense to put it all in at once, or should I do some smaller amount every week? The way the economy is working these days scares me lol
>Time for cash was a couple years ago when Euro was at parity with USD That was around 2022? I don't think that was the time for cash either. That was the time to short dollar and long Euro. So buying shit from Europe, go on Eurotrips, buying gold/silver, and international stocks or VEU. I don't think there was any good time for fiat/cash since 2019. Maybe early 2022 so you could go into 5% cash until fall 2022? S&P500 literally bottomed fall 2022 with the stupid ass [100% CHANCE OF RECESSION](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-17/forecast-for-us-recession-within-year-hits-100-in-blow-to-biden) Bloomberg article and Jeremy Grantham making the media rounds like to The Compound. The 5% Fed rate meant that being defensive and holding short term cash was profitable and had less lost opportunity cost in 2022-2023 but by 2023 and 2024 were massive upside years. You'd had to have gone into small caps in fall 2023 if you missed out no the S&P500 in fall 2022.
SPMO and VTV. add in some VEU for pan pacific. moon
Uh, you might want to look at the ex-us tickers today. VXUS and VEU are rocking.
you want china exposure? go VEU. chinas a player, i will put some in both. " cannons"always primed
time for VEU. the US gonna have no friends left
It’s available for all my efts, VOO, VTI, VGT, VXUS, VEU, SGOV. That’s all I got!
Gary used StockCharts.com when he showed our investment group this method. He set the look back to 252 days (trading days per year) I use the stocks app built into my iPhone and just compare BIL, VEU and SPY with a 1 year look back.
Generally speaking, you have one or two cores that could be VOO, VTI, or, if you want a bit more control, something like VOO and VEU. Then, depending on your risk profile and goals, you can add 10-30% of your total asset allocation to tilts. This could be some sector-specific ETFs, small caps, em markets, alts or even single-name stocks. Tilts will require more research and a more active management style, as they may not work in all markets. When your core should be pretty much set and forgotten.
left US at 1/1.1 mil in May 2021 to canada. basically didnt add anything to it. coasted. left for SE Asia 10 months back. now its at 2.1. just took out 40K to pad a 2-3 yr emergency fund when we do actually retire, retire. but coasting is so easy right now. may just let it double one more time over the next 7-10 years. Stuck to our guns VOO/VTI/VTI/VEU ... lots of overlap. don't care, haven't looked at percentages. likely staying that way? May switch more to VT in retirement accts.
You're fine. That won't cause a wash sale. Another example is being able to sell VXUS to buy VEU without issue
Long term, this all inflationary, likely weaking US dollar too. VXUS is a good place to start. VEU, VNQI too. I suspect the Hormuz transit taxes will be highly negotiable.
Right. Strait of Hormuz should affect $VEU more than $SPY.
$VEU, all word ex US, is up 4.25%. back to regular scheduled programming of foreigners dumping our shit and buying their own. ironically, this makes US way less sensitive to market tacos (probably already a factor in the Iran episode), and incrementally allows the Warlord to make new moves.
Hoping the flow of some foreign ships helps the international stocks, eg $VEU I think spy is uninvestable right now unfortunately
A few months ago I started doing more international (VEU), but I'm still primarily in S&P just automatically.
Strongly recommend VEU over SPY
yeah the s&p 500 being 1/3 mag7 made it seem no longer like a diversified investment and I decided to make my yearly retirement contributions to VEU
> plan Waiting for one of those buy anything moments. Not here yet. > What to buy Gold, corn, VEU, value oriented stuff
VEU outperforming SPY and RSP bigly. back to regular scheduled programming I guess
Oh and I'm losing buckets of money in VEU too
$VEU has reached correction territory off the record high three weeks ago... all of the year's gains are gone
could have just $VEU and avoided the bullshit US rugpull. stupid, and greedy
1. Treasury Bond / ETF: SGOV 2. Gold / ETF: SGOL 3. S&P 500 / ETF: SPY 4. Ex-US World / ETF: VEU I would go into Treasury Bonds for now and wait till we reached the bottom with the Iran fiasco.
VEU, all word ex US etf, down to prices last seen on January 9th of this year
I will laugh if Redditors all got onto the wrong side of the VTI/VEU boat at the bottom.
int'l pumped off the lows. $VEU, $VEA
Bight VEU about 10 minutes ago. International should outperform if this was the day's price bottom
Still sideways from 3m ago, you good. And a lot of things underpriced right now. Maybe dont buy SPY, but discounted software companies maybe? Or international etfs thay have been doing great but took a hit recently? Plenty out there to buy. Try B, ZTS, XYZ, MU, Brazil or Mexico etf, VEU + IEMG + IDEV...
I'm not touching anything. Laughing because I just sold some VEU a week or two ago as part of my regular rebalancing. Who would've guessed "sell high, buy low" works.
Overseas markets are getting crushed and VEU is down 5%. I just bought the dip because these downward moves usually reverse during and after wartime
A few tickers for you to consider; most are "value" from a "I think the Friday close was a reasonable entry point" rather than low P/E or small-cap value but, FWIW, I have positions in all of the below. - LUMN - Lumen Technologies. Enterprise fiber (legacy phone line provider) that I think/hope is on a successful turnaround path. I first entered <$2 a few years ago and had been trimming a large position...but I picked up more when they dipped following earnings earlier in the month. I think this is a $10-15 stock in 2026. - HEI, Heico Corp. Aerospace/defense component provider that unexpectedly dipped following an earnings beat last week. Heico makes the components that keeps the Air Force/Navy flying, and I think they're going to continue to run with all of the military deployment activity. Every hour of flight time eventually translates to revenue for HEi. -TXT, Textron. Industrial/Aviation conglomerate (best known brands include Cessna and Bell) with a very interesting defense business; I particularly like what they're doing with drones. P/E still under 20. - VEU, Vanguard ETF- all World not including US. This (plus a ton of commodities) is my play on the US debasement trade. I also have EWJ (Japan), FLKR (South Korea), AFK (Africa), and EPU (Peru) as specific country/region ETFs. - NVO, Novo Nordisk. Huge growth as the first GLP-1 provider...I think they're oversold now as the market is afraid of competition. This is a recent entry for me; they're now at pre-GLP 1 prices, with a P/E ~10. All that said, I think value is hard to find right now...but the current volatility makes for a lucrative (but risky) environment for swing trading.
I have both VXUS and VEU in different accounts, similar performance.
Everyone's mentioned VXUS already. I personally use VEU
General? VEU which is the old sibling to VXUS. Lower expenses and usually has had slightly higher returns (past performance no guarantee of future performance, of course). The former has a bit less % wise in the smaller small caps. ..
It’s a poor decision if OP wanted the best return at a great price per the provided reasoning (better talent and better valuation). OP didn’t state they want to be diversified globally… OP said they wanted to own companies with the best talent and went on to say the US doesn’t. Then further implied international has better talent and better value. Why would you place more than half your bets on “worse” choice (ie US per OP reasoning). VXUS, VEU, VEA all great international choices that are diversified too. The “great choice” would have been to go 70% VXUS and 30% VT. Everyone is ragging on OP bc the action (ie picking VT) isn’t consistent with the emotional claim, just shows how clueless OP and apparently you are 🤷♂️
This goes to show you that it is all about revenue… a consumption tax. This move is useless in trying to secure trade deals. We should all, at least, be 35% invested in VEU or similar.
VXUS and VEU my beloved. Everyone else wins when we shoot ourselves in the foot.
Why not just add VEU or ACWX in addition to SPY?? That will give you all world without selling
Such as vxus? I’m sure there are bad companies internationally too. Or is the top X a good enough compromise?, in that case VOO and VEU would be good if small caps are more likely to be fraudulent
Yeah, that’s what I’d assumed, but in the presentation I watched he seemed to say that when the S&P was negative, you moved to bonds regardless of VEU. I watched it a couple times to try to get a clear understanding, but I still might have missed it.
When both the other ETFs are negative. That’s one of the momentum’s in “dual.” Absolute momentum and relative momentum. If neither VEU nor SPY have positive relative momentum, you stick it all in a safe haven like BIL until they do.
VEU, vanguard all world ex US, is at 96.57 RSI on the all time chart. there is no where to hide.
My exact setup with Fidelity CMA! I DCA weekly/biweekly into VOO/VEU/ONEQ/VYM + SGOV holds my Efund. Reinvest dividends. This account would be my first to be liquidated if I ever needed cash for anything like a big purchase, business opportunity, or partial retire hopefully 17-20 years out.
VEA or SCHF if you don’t want EM included. VEU if you want EM included at market weight. Even though performance is virtually identical to VXUS I prefer it because it omits small caps. I don’t trust that small caps in EMs are audited and for shareholders to get their fair share. In fact, I don’t think that’s true for large caps either which is why I largely buy VEA aside from a small bit of EM exposure with some VT. I am a big fan of VTI/VEA and would recommend a 60/40 DCA on automatic investment to anyone
VEA, VEU and a variety of international focused etfs are pushing into 90s on RSI on the 5 yr. sold those positions today
I've been using VGK. I've also been looking at VEU but haven't looked at it enough to move anything into it yet.