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Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Index Fund ETF Shares
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How to replicate VEU or equivalent Global ex. US ETF sold in the UK?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
Is there any benefit in investing In both Index ETF’s and individual stocks?
How best to reinvest cash from dividends earned in my Traditional and Roth IRA
Looking to expand my Roth IRA and I want to make sure it makes sense to add the ETFs I am considering.
What do you guys all use for your core international fund?
Is there anything wrong with my current investing strategy?
SCHD beating VTI in Monte Carlo Simulation. But HOW Is This Possible?
Which to pick SCHD, VOO, VIG, VTI, VT, VYM, VXUS, VEU?
How Do You Make Your Regular Buying Contributions?
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A few tickers for you to consider; most are "value" from a "I think the Friday close was a reasonable entry point" rather than low P/E or small-cap value but, FWIW, I have positions in all of the below. - LUMN - Lumen Technologies. Enterprise fiber (legacy phone line provider) that I think/hope is on a successful turnaround path. I first entered <$2 a few years ago and had been trimming a large position...but I picked up more when they dipped following earnings earlier in the month. I think this is a $10-15 stock in 2026. - HEI, Heico Corp. Aerospace/defense component provider that unexpectedly dipped following an earnings beat last week. Heico makes the components that keeps the Air Force/Navy flying, and I think they're going to continue to run with all of the military deployment activity. Every hour of flight time eventually translates to revenue for HEi. -TXT, Textron. Industrial/Aviation conglomerate (best known brands include Cessna and Bell) with a very interesting defense business; I particularly like what they're doing with drones. P/E still under 20. - VEU, Vanguard ETF- all World not including US. This (plus a ton of commodities) is my play on the US debasement trade. I also have EWJ (Japan), FLKR (South Korea), AFK (Africa), and EPU (Peru) as specific country/region ETFs. - NVO, Novo Nordisk. Huge growth as the first GLP-1 provider...I think they're oversold now as the market is afraid of competition. This is a recent entry for me; they're now at pre-GLP 1 prices, with a P/E ~10. All that said, I think value is hard to find right now...but the current volatility makes for a lucrative (but risky) environment for swing trading.
I have both VXUS and VEU in different accounts, similar performance.
Everyone's mentioned VXUS already. I personally use VEU
General? VEU which is the old sibling to VXUS. Lower expenses and usually has had slightly higher returns (past performance no guarantee of future performance, of course). The former has a bit less % wise in the smaller small caps. ..
It’s a poor decision if OP wanted the best return at a great price per the provided reasoning (better talent and better valuation). OP didn’t state they want to be diversified globally… OP said they wanted to own companies with the best talent and went on to say the US doesn’t. Then further implied international has better talent and better value. Why would you place more than half your bets on “worse” choice (ie US per OP reasoning). VXUS, VEU, VEA all great international choices that are diversified too. The “great choice” would have been to go 70% VXUS and 30% VT. Everyone is ragging on OP bc the action (ie picking VT) isn’t consistent with the emotional claim, just shows how clueless OP and apparently you are 🤷♂️
This goes to show you that it is all about revenue… a consumption tax. This move is useless in trying to secure trade deals. We should all, at least, be 35% invested in VEU or similar.
VXUS and VEU my beloved. Everyone else wins when we shoot ourselves in the foot.
Why not just add VEU or ACWX in addition to SPY?? That will give you all world without selling
Such as vxus? I’m sure there are bad companies internationally too. Or is the top X a good enough compromise?, in that case VOO and VEU would be good if small caps are more likely to be fraudulent
Yeah, that’s what I’d assumed, but in the presentation I watched he seemed to say that when the S&P was negative, you moved to bonds regardless of VEU. I watched it a couple times to try to get a clear understanding, but I still might have missed it.
When both the other ETFs are negative. That’s one of the momentum’s in “dual.” Absolute momentum and relative momentum. If neither VEU nor SPY have positive relative momentum, you stick it all in a safe haven like BIL until they do.
VEU, vanguard all world ex US, is at 96.57 RSI on the all time chart. there is no where to hide.
My exact setup with Fidelity CMA! I DCA weekly/biweekly into VOO/VEU/ONEQ/VYM + SGOV holds my Efund. Reinvest dividends. This account would be my first to be liquidated if I ever needed cash for anything like a big purchase, business opportunity, or partial retire hopefully 17-20 years out.
VEA or SCHF if you don’t want EM included. VEU if you want EM included at market weight. Even though performance is virtually identical to VXUS I prefer it because it omits small caps. I don’t trust that small caps in EMs are audited and for shareholders to get their fair share. In fact, I don’t think that’s true for large caps either which is why I largely buy VEA aside from a small bit of EM exposure with some VT. I am a big fan of VTI/VEA and would recommend a 60/40 DCA on automatic investment to anyone
VEA, VEU and a variety of international focused etfs are pushing into 90s on RSI on the 5 yr. sold those positions today
I've been using VGK. I've also been looking at VEU but haven't looked at it enough to move anything into it yet.
VEA / VEU woop woop
VXUS and VEU smoking SPY 🤌
VXUS is big, and iShares offers their IXUS with less small cap. Also VEU is similar to VSUX and IXUS but with even less small cap (nothing against small cap, but for strict mkt share portfolios, it really does not really affect anything). There’s other choices like iShares ACWX that covers non U.S. large to mid cap but the fees are a bit higher. Another idea is dividing non-US into “developed” and “emerging” like iShares IDIV and IEMG respectively, or Vanguard’s VEA and VWO. Should keep with a MSCI or FTSE index. Mine are 4:1 SGDW at 0.03 er with SCHE at 0.05 er (SPDR and Schwab), .. though I do this to just get cheap non-US large-to-mid caps (no geopolitics, though I like having Korea as a smaller % of DW, FTSE’s developed category, instead of MSCI’s emerging mkt category). Why? I’d rather have expenses working on tracking large to mid cap instead of small caps which won’t really move the needle, but I digress.
I use VEU. It and VXUS function pretty much the same, but VEU has .01% lower expense ratio. That's effectively nothing but might as well.
added to $VEU, all world ex US, and $PHYS at close. will continue to outperform spy / qqq
added to $VEU, all world ex US, and $PHYS at close. held $IBIT baggies
I'd throw in some world ex US. VEU
not a bad idea to be honest $VEU in general
VEA / VEU / PICK a bunch of country etfs too, look on the ishares website for tickers like EWW, EWZ, ILF, etc etc
https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/1qvdyax/is_switching_from_voo_to_vxus_a_good_idea_for_a/ My personal thoughts: https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/1qvdyax/comment/o3hpjg4/ From another poster: >"i sold my entire VOO stake back in 2024 when trump won again....didnt look back, 50% went into VEU, 50% went into SLV.... turn out quite well >I kept my VWRA >past 1 year performance >SLV +168% >VEU +33% >VWRA +22% >VOO +15%" r/investing is heavily optimistic on US prospects which I believe reflects a fairly heavy US-centric narrative due to the userbase. However, I think you can do well to observe macro sentiment examples in non-US dominated communities (below examples from r/AskEurope): https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/1qj36zs/do_european_organizations_actually_track_which/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/1qi6m53/how_difficult_is_it_to_find_genuine_made_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/1qptwrj/do_eu_citizens_feel_more_european_recently/
OP, no need to invest in US stocks if you feel the US is too risky (I think it is). Plenty of ETFs to consider, such as VEU, VXUS, IXUS, etc. I'm big into XIC, which is a top choice for Canadian market exposure.
i sold my entire VOO stake back in 2024 when trump won again....didnt look back, 50% went into VEU, 50% went into SLV.... turn out quite well I kept my VWRA past 1 year performance SLV +168% VEU +33% VWRA +22% VOO +15%
VTI virgins vs Chad VEU
As far as indexing, VEU over VOO/SPY for the next couple years
Diversify. Balance us stocks with VEU, perhaps even some gold and silver. I think the fact is clear, the deficit ain't ever getting smaller. As it gets bigger and bigger, US will have to print more and more money, devaluing the dollar. The last thing I would want to hold is cash. At least US stocks should increase with inflation. But I get what you mean, total concentration in US market sounds risky right now.
int'l stocks $VEU, $VEA, are booming
VEU ETF contains no US stocks VT ETF contains global stocks including US Can't sit on cash or treasuries and I've read that previous metals ETF are not good enough because they might be margined. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. Would love to see if there's anything other than buying coins.
In this case she was right. The doofus in charge has threatened and bullied the world so now they’re selling off US treasury bonds, the dollar is plummeting, and VEU is outperforming VOO.
VOO is a solid choice—it’s essentially a bet on long-term U.S. growth. However, based on 2025 performance so far, the U.S. hasn’t been the top-performing market. A weakening dollar has been a headwind, and gold and silver have significantly outperformed VOO this year. Personally, I’d allocate 60–70% to VOO and QQQ, 15–20% to gold as a hedge, and the remaining 15–20% to top global ETFs like VT, VEU, and IXUS for international diversification.
That’s when his chair ends. His governor position is up in Jan of 2028 I recall. Traditionally they resign with the chair but there is no obligation. There are also shenanigans where the 12 governors votes him back to chair. Foreign stocks in local currencies are unhedged against the dollar. Like VXUS or VEU.
VGK to my understanding is priced in USD. VXUS and VEU are in local currencies. As the USD declines, you maintain wealth in local currency priced equities.
VXUS/VEU ftw. Ride the tide of debasement and repatriation of capital.
VEU if you are more a fan of blue chip foreign equities. VAW for commodities, or if you can afford it, VMCDX for one with energy exposure (still priced in USD though).. VNQ for real estate including data centers. PHYS and PSLV for direct metal exposure to avoid nasty taxes. Just trying to help people preserve wealth.
I’m trying to feed the weights in a portfolio analyzer. But these tickers are not recognized hence curiosity on why. For example VWRP - if it’s all world etf - if it’s ex-US then normal sec would be VEU or VFWAX - if it’s total world then VT or VTWAX So how did you get the VWRP option?
VXUS or VEU are close to what you are describing.
You can convert your target date to other assets. I moved into 70% VOO and 30% VEU after a certain executive order removed some guard rails from target date plans.
I'd suggest VEU ETF and GLDM... Seeing the DXY is falling a lot and the US dollar as reserves of the world central banks is going to be below 50% by the end of 2026 and 46% by 2027 by IMF estimates and then by the end of the decade will be around 40%. The big winners of this will be gold and non-USA for the next decade plus US P/E ratio is almost 30 and whenever it goes above 23 P/E the largest private bank in the world JP Morgan says the USA enters a lost decade of 0% or even negative returns for a decade.
Huh, TIL that one exists. I'm long VXUS. It looks like VEU is primarily developed markets, VXUS has that plus emerging markets and small caps. So maybe a parallel would be SP500 vs Russell 3000.
I get that. I also think the US stock market has a lot of cope propping it up right now. Eg; AI hype will save everything, tariffs are just negotiating tactics, institutions will hold, courts will check executive overreach. Investors are still betting this is temporary theatre rather than structural rot. Time will tell if that’s optimism or denial. Meanwhile Non-US ETFs (VXUS/VEU) are Up 32% over the past 12 months. S&P 500 (VOO): Up 18% over the past 12 months. anyone that’s divesting x amount away from US right now for moral/political/ethical or whatever other reason is smart and simply hedging their bets. Let’s not underestimate how much of world is doing this right now. Time will tell. Midterms will tell, If he figures out a way to suspend elections.
Justifying buying more stonks to Chat GPT as it continues to tell me the most “high IQ” move is to put 5k in VEU
Vanguard World Ex-US. $VEU.
During Trumps first term, when we were having these same conversations: SPDR 80% gain VEU 47% gain In Trumps first year(2017), the VEU beat the S&P by 6% but I'm sure this time it's different....
What comments do you expect from a US-centric website bro. Just invest in VEU
As Canadian I sold my entire US ETF allocation earlier in 2025. I now hold: VCN - Vanguard FTSE Canada All Cap Index ETF VIU - Vanguard FTSE Developed All Cap ex North America Index ETF For those Americans that want to optimize their portfolio. I recommend: VEU - Vanguard FTSE All-World ex US Index Fund ETF returned 31.52% in the past year S&P 500 only returned 16% in the last year.
Tickers? VEU and VXUS? Commodities and metals?
Move some to international blue chips too, in local currencies. VEU for example.
Oh you want to be holding assets 100%. Personally I've tried to diversify my accounts to offset major downside risks, while raking in gains from precious metals. I'm holding VEU, IAU/GLD, GLTR, mining companies, S&P index funds, SCHD, defense etfs (including foreign ones like KDEF and EUAD), BRKB, SOXX, and large cap growth mutual funds.
You need international diversification like what VEU offers.
VOO and VTI don't make that much sense together. As a pick one, they are both solid options however there's significant overlap between the funds. Just look at the holdings for both and you'll find common US large cap companies. VOO and VEU makes a lot more sense. VEU is the ex-US world etf. VTI is total world, so including US.
VEU doesnt have small caps, it's VOO for international. VXUS is VTI for international.
What's the difference between VXUS and VEU?
You can. If you want a sort of SP500 (SPY/VOO) but for the rest of the world you have VEU.
I agree 100% USA is risky, we don't know if the next 30-50 years during our investment careers if we will see the same returns (even though I highly think we will) so I don't agree with 100% VOO. I do hold about 20% international (VEU), 40% SP500, 5% small caps (RSCC), 5% mid caps (IWS), 20% AGG Bonds (Bloomberg U.S. Aggregate Bond Index) and 10% in the FTSE 3-Month US Treasury Bill Index, I always hold cash so I can invest 10% when the market corrects 20% like when Trump handed us a good deal with his tariffs (I call it Market reaction, not timing) for example, I deployed my 10% cash during that tariff tumble. Essentially I am 70/30 but will go to 80/20 if market gives me a 20% correction. Although my 70/30 may underperform VT and chill slightly, the less drawdown and ability to deploy cash at 20%+ corrections narrows the gap. We are pretty much neck and neck if you go back 15 years, and I have a lot of diversification to help ease the path to 1 million+ which is my goal, and the less severe drawdowns are such a huge differentiator, it helps to keep investing with confidence. But you do you, I am merely explaining my choice, not telling anyone to follow me.
Biggest gains were from precious metal etfs, NEM, RKLB, GOOGL (bought after April dip, still undervalued imo), VEU, defense etfs (EUAD, KDEF), RNMBY (bought early in year and sold in the summer), and COF. Also swing traded LULU for solid profit in the fall. Biggest loser this year was NVO but I'm bullish on it in the medium term
That is true. VOO is tech heavy even though not as bad as QQQ. There's RSP which is equal weighted S&P500 which has not gone up as linearly as VOO in the past five years, but is surely going up on a longer time horizon. Another option is to have some exposure into international equities but they have not done well at all (take VEU for example). Or like you mentioned, we should pick and choose assets and allocate and manage manually. These days, even GLD is not a bad idea.
RemindMe! 1 year So you're saying GLD and VEU will outperform SPY in 2026? That's bold. What other tickers are you predicting when you say 'certain sectors'?
OP's numbers are actually correct if you actually look up the ETFs yourself (VEU vs. SPY). This guy is wrong and upvoted massively.
> however; I started wondering at what age should I start diversifying into safer/more diversified investments such as international ETFs (ex. VXUS, or VEU) Or even bonds? International equity you should be in now. International divserification is a huge advantage to you, despite recent underperformance. Bonds you can wait for many years there is no harm with 100% stock. When your portfolio starts getting big enough that the portfolio's gains are far larger than your annual contributions you can move towards 80/20 (20% bonds). As you get near retirement you can be somewhere between 80/20 and 50/50. Near the start and end of retirement (death) are when bonds will be most important; the middle 80% you can have a lot of stock. FWIW the mortality credits in annuities allow you to cut your bond allocation and anti-correlate with longevity risk so when you get there seriously consider annuities. But that's decades off. If you start to own a business or have some reason you'll need lots of taxable fixed income for many years then consider permanent life solutions. You must learn how to have a policy properly configured for accumulation and minimum commission or it is likely to do terribly. Otherwise you can use a little bit of bond type stuff for short term savings and mostly not worry about it.
An option would be to keep both, and buy in to VEU or something similar for a broader reach and balance. Also could always add in BND (depending on age and risk allocation.)
There are tax implications though. I have well into the 7 figures portfolio with about 40% gain currently. Lots of different tickers that are part of VOO and VEU. But quite tech heavy. Same as OP, afraid to sell lately since usually when I did it was the wrong move. Any best practice on rebalancing into a more broad portfolio in a tax optimal way? I mean I have some ideas but it would be great to hear from others as well...
Depends on how much risk you want to take on. You can't really go wrong with long term holding VOO/VTI, or if you want international exposure, some combo of VOO + VXUS/VEU or just VT
If you want to add an equity ex-US fund - you can always add something like VEU.
Look into Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Index Fund ETF Shares (VEU).
On that note, why do people recommend VXUS over VEA or VEU?
VT is VOO+VXUS (or more accurarely it's VTI + VXUS). VXUS is VEA+VWO. VEU doesnt have small caps, so it's like VOO and VXUS is like VTI. To be the most diversified in the simplest way, just buy VT.
As other people have mentioned, VOO comes with in built diversification. The two things it does not offer is diversification into non US equities (VEU) and diversification into non stock assets (BND, GLD, etc.). If might make sense to reduce your VOO and get diversified some more. But then again you really don't NEED to
You can select an ETF which doesn't blindly allocate into stocks based on market cap, like Schwab Fundamental Index FNDX. There is a whole family of "FN" covering US small to large cap, and international. You can invest overseas VXUS or VEU. Many things to do. People here will convince you that anything other than VOO is stupid. That's the most narrow minded point of view ever.
Yeah that's the reason I am in Mid Caps IWS, small caps IWM and VEU as part of the 50% equities, if the AI bubble pops won't be hit as hard, but the international run due to dollar drop also has me thinking twice about being heavy international, if AI bubble pops that could be a flush from international as people run to value and bonds, lots of ifs and buts, can't wait to see how it plays out. All I know is whoever is 100% sp100 has some thick skin, and you are definitely not so have some good hedges for various scenarios.
Yup, and if he's scared add bonds. 50/50 if so scared.. 50% sp500 and 50% agg bonds.. to reduce exposure to AI bubble the 50% equities portion can add 5% small caps via IWM, and 5% mid caps via IWS... and then for the USA doom and gloomers who want international exposure... add 5-10% into international index such as VEU, I own it but not as a bet against america only to smooth volatility at the cost of future returns in the past 75 years international has always hovered around 7-8% returns over long periods of times. You participate on the continued bullish run, when it eventually corrects your bonds will protect you and soften the blow, then you can choose based on how severe the correction is to go back in a little heavier such as 70/30 or 80/20. All this is jack boggle approved, except your all cash move.. never do that.
nah do 50/50 if you are so scared.. 50% sp500 and 50% agg bonds.. to reduce exposure to AI bubble the 50% portion can add 5% small caps via IWM, and 5% mid caps via IWS... and then for the USA doom and gloomers who want international exposure... add 5-10% into international index such as VEU. You participate on the continued bullish run, when it eventually corrects your bonds will protect you and soften the blow, then you can choose based on how severe the correction is to go back in a little heavier such as 70/30 or 80/20. All this is jack boggle approved, except your all cash move.. never do that.
I lean toward the S&P 500 because it’s already internationally diversified in a real way. Those 500 companies pull in revenue from every corner of the globe, so owning the index gives you exposure to growth worldwide without the headaches of currency swings or foreign governance risks that come with pure international funds. That said, I do suggest adding a broad international ETF like VEU for extra diversity, but keep it to 10-20% of the portfolio at most. The goal there is simple diversification, not a bet that US dominance will fade anytime soon. In our lifetimes, the odds of that shift seem low. The S&P 500 has a genuine moat. As nations modernize, they don’t just copy American tech; they become customers of it. Think cloud services, software, chips, pharmaceuticals, all dominated by S&P names. Beyond the companies themselves, the US political system and legal framework actively foster innovation and startups in ways most countries still struggle to match. Shareholder rights, capital access, bankruptcy laws that don’t punish failure, all of it feeds a cycle that keeps producing world-leading firms. So yes, there’s some home bias, but it’s more than that. It’s betting on the investing equivalent of the US superpower, a system that’s proven it can reinvent itself and stay ahead for decades.
You have 1.5 million, you are ahead of so many of your peer's there is no need to try and go full ham and be aggressive you can literally sit at 50/50 invested, something that the great John boggle did while he was sick and wanted to protect his nest egg. 50% Equities as simple as SP500, or can get fancy and do 5% Small Caps(IWM) and 5% mid caps (IWS), and 5% international (VEU). 50% AGG bonds, and if you are worried about the debasement trade put 5% in gold, and 5% in BTC, with 40% in AGG bonds or equivalent.
I agree with selling to buy stocks, dumping it into an AI bubble is unwise I'd say. Maybe do IJH/VEU instead?
Assuming you already have a 401k and kids plan set up, my recommendation is to open a brokerage and automate a set amount every week into an ETF like VOO or SPY and into an international ETF like VXUS or VEU. The key is consistency. Ideally you’re adding to it every week, but if not every week, every month. Automate it so it just pulls without you thinking about it. Any earnings you make are subjected to long term or short term capital gains tax. If you’re totally unfamiliar with investing, I recommend you research those terms specifically.
VEU and yes ffs don't be all in on murica
I might be late to the party on this but I just recently noticed that global stocks are up more than US stocks YTD. For some reason I thought US stuff was doing better but probably because the percentage gains I hear were looking back from the dip we took early in the year. Anyways, compare SPY and VEU. Over any time frame of 1+ years we see SPY winning but YTD, VEU is up. I want US business to succeed being that I live here but am thinking that my IRA needs a little more hedging elsewhere perhaps.
40% agg/bnd bonds, 40% sp500, 5% IWM, 5% IWS, 10% International (VEU). Chill and watch what Jack Bogle has proven to be the best allocation for your average investor.
1) go to r/bogleheads and check out "3 fund portfolio" 2) VEU - Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US ETF [Link: VEU](https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profile/veu)
Naw, USA is cooked. VEU is where I'd put it. Well maybe 25% in VOO. Same idea though.
FYI VEU is identical at a lower cost.
Vanguard’s VEA is actually “international” which is defined as “non-US”, while IShares ACWI is truly global large-mid cap (at 0.32% ER). Vanguard has their all-cap global etf VT at 0.06%, while State Street has a less popular all-cap global SPGM at 0.09% that’s more concentrated than VT but usually has better returns (price and dividend). I’d love ACWI at a VT expense ratio, but one reason it’s more expensive reportedly is it tracks its index better = attracts traders. Now iShares URTH is global developed, so it will invest in an index with the US, Europe, Japan and other long term capitalists countries, but leave off China, India, and smaller recent capitalistic coin. It does have some stocks that support the emerging mkts but are domiciled in the U.S. ~ less than 1% last I checked. Vanguard’s VEA is all caps developed ex-US with a cheap er but their VEU is all world ex-US large-middle cap with still some small-cap stocks. Another possibility if wanting to leave off China, India, etc.. but keeping South Korea is Schwab’s SCHF at just a tad more er for a large to mid-cap etf. There’s VXUS or IXUS with more small caps, but personally having only 100 mostly U.S. stocks in QQQ vs 3,400 to 4,400 in IXUS or VXUS kind of seems unbalanced to me (but YMMV). Also Fidelity offers an all-cap version of QQQ with the symbol ONEC.
For an adult, taxable brokerage account, would you do VEU instead to remove the potential volatility of small cap? Or am I overthinking that? For mine, I'm still struggling with the right ratio of what. I have an additional bond fund in mine for stability. Otherwise, mine is a much more confusing mess of random funds that I got each time I "liked" something until I realized I have no method and I'm going to lose big. So I'm trying to simplify mine also, still not sure other than the basic classic idea of S&P, international,