SAS

Juankestein

Hello? Footer says "Chronocoin, un service LEDGER SAS" It looks stupid similar to the first ledger nano: https://i.imgur.com/lhQAZEf.jpeg I feel like a boomer explaining this but seemed so obvious this is not a scam, but a discontinued product by Ledger. Kinda impressed no one has seen the first nano tbh.

MaximumStudent1839

>Crypto at it’s core is a network of people coalescing around a set of ideas. You are right that crypto is very much a social movement. Much of this tech is built around to serve certain social preferences of a group. >The EVM probably, Ossifying around the EVM is more a dev "lazy behavior", than really social consensus/value. It is much like, I am raised to use a QWERTY keyboard so everyone should use a QWERTY keyboard. When I am mean not a social consensus, most ETH users can barely tell the VM running behind it. If MetaMask was compatible with StarkNet from the get go, would users notice they aren't running EVM? Honestly, I don't think ossifying around a programming language is a good thing. IRL, languages do change rapidly from gen to gen, in large part due to differential needs for different gens and computing hardware acceleration. For example, when RAM was scarce, ppl use dinosaurs like SAS for data work. Nowadays, it is completely bewildering for data analysts to comprehend why you want to train models off your hard drives instead of using your RAM. But yeah, lazy deviness, when faced with no competition, is omnipresent. If you go to old banking systems, a lot of them still use the dinosaur SAS. It is not about "lindy effect", it is just those in position are too lazy to learn new stuff and aren't compelled to upgrade. > The more this happens the more lindy effect the chain has and the more it can be relied upon to continue working as it is. I think the space overrates the value of "continue working as it is" over "working toward what is intended". The former values inertia and complacency above everything else. The latter values product delivery and differentiation above everything else. Usually, it is the latter that has more value than the former, because value is created from meeting market demand, not from complacency. It is expected to ossify towards the latter, being jack-of-all-trades is often not a winning product characteristic. Ossifying towards the former is really writing your own doom. To me Bitcoin has ossified towards the latter while ETH has ossified towards the former. It is utterly bizarre to me that ETH is dead set on a L2 road map but it offloads so much of the responsibility for this to work to third parties. I mistakenly thought L2s were a temporary solution, exactly because I saw all ETH L2 public goods problem being solved by other L2s or VC projects. In my mind, I thought how can this be ETH's long-term road map when all these functions should be enshrined on main net. If stuff like decentralized sequencers etc. got enshrined on main net, it would have a lot more coherent narrative. Now what you have is one big speculative galore of infinite infrastructure ETH tokens to solve ETH problems. Each token has its own censorship and centralization issues, and ETH relying on them makes it confusing asf on what exactly ETH value as social product.

WindexTracker

One is a British citizen and the other American. SAS-Delta Force should mount an operation or else it puts a target on Brits and Americans.

leonl07

SAS?

zippyzipperson

Market cap is not 6.1B it is 5.3B so if you back out the assets you are paying about 800 million for a SAS company with fat margins that saves their balance sheet on a Bitcoin standard and strategically accesses debt markets and uses their ability to source low interest rate financing in a manner that is accretive to shareholders. It is a compelling investment to me.

PiePerson15

I’m not familiar with cardano, but it says that right on the homepage of the page you sent: # number active relays per provider: Amazon.com, Inc. DigitalOcean, LLC Hetzner Online GmbH OVH SAS The Constant Co… Contabo GmbH Google LLC Microsoft Corpora… Contabo Inc. Linode, LLC Verizon Business IONOS SE myLoc managed I… Those are all cloud hosting services

Mallardshead

Web3 is a scam. Web3 is not an orgy of swaps, wraps, burns, mints, and stakes, run by dapps that do nothing but optimize token interactions to keep the orgy going. Web3 in reality is a combination of hardware and software. It is private servers the size of credit cards that require zero technical knowledge to use that eliminate SAS. They create mesh networks eventually that bypass ISP's. Web3 is also called *sovereign computing*, which bitcoin nodes are levering, and becoming more and more. It's the most exciting and underreported thing happening in bitcoin imo. Bitcoin is at the absolute center of sovereign computing. If nodes can't be run by anyone that wants too, your project is a scam. Think PoS at large and what happens after the merge: scams.

Mallardshead

I run a full node. Many run a full node. Lightning is seeing exponential node growth. Sovereign computing is the most exciting thing happening in the bitcoin space. We already have personal servers the size of credit cards that require zero technical knowledge to use. Our goal is simple: eventually create a mesh network that eliminates SAS, and circumvents ISPs altogether. You haven't been paying attention, and as such, have lazily used a false equivalence argument without knowing what web3 is, because it isn't an orgy of swaps, wraps, burns, mints, and stakes, run by dapps that do nothing but optimize token interactions to keep the orgy going. Bitcoin doesn't have an Infura or AWS problem like your false equivalence, not in terms of API, nodes, mining, or wallets. Pay attention.

Mallardshead

And that is its greatest benefit, because anonymity requires trust and third parties to re-verify transactions, which would make it useless as a world reserve currency. Bitcoin is pseudonymous though, and centralized exchanges are the vector by which governments lever blockchain forensics effectively. A circular economy eliminates this, and when millions (billions?) join the network globally, the privacy goes exponential. This is to say nothing of sovereign computing, the elimination of SAS, the rise of mesh networks, and pasturing of ISPs. Bitcoin Privacy has a very bright future, and its critics will look like the "it can't scale" shills before the LN went "suddenly" from "slowly".

Mallardshead

Exactly what "innovations" are you speaking of? You mean like the Lightning Network which has reduced fees to sub-penny prices, makes settlement instant, and moves money at the speed of light? The one that CashAPP has fully integrated, Starbucks is about to run nodes on, and whole countries are using after legal tender laws? You mean like Taproot and DLC's bringing smart contracts to bitcoin without the cheap script language and Swiss cheese security? You mean like sovereign computing which is pressuring SAS already, is working towards mesh networks, and eliminating ISPs? I look around the space and don't see anything relevant but what bitcoin has done in the last several years. You haven't paid attention, because the mega lottery structured shitcoins, and wannabe bitcoins are the same parasites they ever were, hanging around waiting for bitcoin's halving to do anything

Mallardshead

The most groundbreaking activity around bitcoin currently in my opinion, is the sovereign computing movement, with the goals of eliminating SAS, creating mesh networks and circumventing ISP's, all by putting personal servers the size of credit cards in your hand with zero technical knowledge required. Companies like Start9, Umbrel, etcetera, are pressing here, and they actually represent the real version of Web 3.0, which some shills would have you believe is the intranets of utility tokens, and scammy vaporware dapps optimizing token interactions for orgies of swaps, wraps, burns, mints, and stakes. So for myself and this space, I'm hoping any ground-breaking announcements are on this front, as I'm uninterested in the celebrity nonsense and centralized product pumps of anything not open source which is more or less concerned with bitcoin the price and not bitcoin the network. Panama might go legal tender. Might get a major drop by Block's mining hardware and biometric hardware wallet which if rumors are anything to go by, might be part of a hybrid CashApp strategy which will soon allow xpub/zpub watch-only. But the major announcement according to rumors will come from Strike, not sure what it will be.

arghhmonsters

Most people don't care about us brown people. I'm reading Australian news comments about war crimes happening and everyone has sympathy for the victims. When the Aussie SAS were committing war crimes on the other hand, most comment's were saying it's all fair game in war.

Etagedh

it is the same for everyone I am just really glad I jumped of the NFT train which I was able to stack some LFG tokens and joined in its ongoing LM and SAS for passive earning.

Etagedh

The NFT gaming projects that I have been looking into lately are quite much but Gamerse is just unique with its approach to doing things, aart from the P2E feature with Polker it has LP mining and SAS which makes passive earning better.

warpus

> Polygon The best part of Polygon are definitely the super low transaction fees. There's a bunch of different platforms on Polygon as a result, and you have probably heard of some of the bigger ones (QuickSwap, etc.) I've looked around and found something that might or might not be a bit of a gem. DYOR, obviously, but check out Gravity Finance (GFI) @ https://gravityfinance.io. It's a somewhat new project that's been quietly pushing out solid products. Seems like a potentially exciting long-term investment (and a good place for DEFI) The reasons why I like them: - They've been audited - that was the first thing I checked. Audited by 2 different auditors that seem respected, but obviously DYOR - What they've pushed out so far seems to be very solid and not gimmicky like a lot of other DEFI platforms. You can click around and deposit your GFI into a vault or provide liquidity without any gimmicks like locking stuff in for a period of time or whatever. It all seems very straightforward, the UI is nice, and everything seems to work very well. - Interesting deflationary tokenomics. Their platform takes some of the platform fees and converts them to BTC that "backs" the GFI. So the longer their platform is operational, the larger this backing becomes.. GFI holders are able to burn their GFI and claim the BTC. So basically, if you are bullish on BTC in the long-term, you should also be bullish on GFI, assuming the platform ramps up their volume as they push out new products. The idea is that once the BTC backing exceeds what the GFI is worth - arbitrage bots will burn GFI and claim the BTC. So GFI sort of has an inherent floor price that's based on the BTC backing amount, which I find pretty cool (and bullish) - After may or june of this year or so GFI will become deflationary. No new GFI will be minted, but their various products will continue to burn GFI. So it seems that if their platform survives and brings in new volume, the tokenomics should lead to positive price action. Right now there is little volume and the farms are creating selling pressure., so it seems to me that GFI is sort of right now flying a bit under the radar. (since a lot of people look at the price action only and don't analyze the tokenomics) - The founders & devs are active on their discord, answering all questions and interacting with the community. Maybe it's just me, but all other DEFI discord servers I've checked out have been a bit .. crazy? This one seemed like a breath of fresh air. - Their launchpad has been used once so far, it's fairly new. They used it to launch the Meraki generative art NFT, which I think is the first of its kind on Polygon. From what I understand some of the profits from this platform will feed right into the BTC backing on the platform, although Meraki hasn't launched their platform yet. There is another launch coming up soon - Castle - another NFT platform, and from what I remember reading proceeds will also funnel into the BTC backing. From what I've seen on their discord they are in talks with several other projects that want to use this launchpad, which seems pretty bullish. - The team seems to want to make this into an all-around DEFI solution with lending, borrowing, leveraging, and all sorts of other DEFI solutions, so what they have now feels like a foundation they will build a lot more on. I've also overheard on their discord that they are right now working on some sort of unique product in collaboration with a high profile crypto product. No idea what it is, but if they truly have a high-profile partner for this new product, then it seems to me that once it's announced it will put a lot of new eyes on their platform. - Another thing I like is that eventually you will be able to hold GFI in your wallet and claim .. essentially free ETH. It doesn't make sense right now since the volume is so low (it makes more sense to put it in a vault), but remember how I said that some of the platform fees convert to BTC? Some of those fees convert to ETH that you can claim (without burning anything). Depending on how much volume they end up attracting to their platform, that could be easy money - just hold GFI in your wallet and occasionally claim the ETH. - Low volume and price right now, so if you believe in their team and product, this seems like a great time to buy. I know this is a bit of a cliche, but it feels really early w/ this platform. If this intrigues you, DYOR, check them out, and if you're convinced the easiest thing you can do is buy some GFI (right on their platform) and just stick it in the GFI SAS (single asset) vault. It will autocompound your stack and grow it for you with only a 1% fee. Come back sometime in may at the latest and see what's up when their GFI farms close. Or check in every once in a while and modify your DEFI strategy depending on what new products they launch. An all around good vibe with this platform and like I said it feels really early w/ these guys. Can buy some GFI fairly cheap and let it ride