ASML

Prestigious_Ad2420

You forgot ASML

Sentinaapp

Solid breakdown. One thing worth adding to the chain logic: this kind of "demand cascades down the supply chain" reasoning is exactly why semiconductor equipment names tend to lag the AI leaders by a few quarters rather than moving in lockstep. Capex commitments from fabs take time to translate into actual equipment orders. Worth watching ASML's order backlog and lead times alongside AMAT. If both are climbing together it confirms the structural read rather than just riding the AI hype cycle. The "picks and shovels" thesis only holds if backlog data backs it up, not just stock price momentum.

PERSONA916

I have to imagine a not insignificant amount of these sales are already priced in via order books... I don't think you can just walk into ASML and order a bunch of Lithograph machines for delivery in 2 weeks

Port_Lens

I think the interesting question isn't whether NVDA or AMAT is the better business—it's how much exposure you actually want at each layer of the AI stack. You could make a reasonable case for owning: Infrastructure (NVDA, AMD), Equipment (AMAT, ASML, LRCX), Foundries (TSMC), Hyperscalers (MSFT, AMZN, GOOGL), Software/app layer. That way you're not making a single bet on where the economic profits ultimately end up. History shows that sometimes the biggest winners aren't the companies everyone talks about today. The harder part is deciding the allocation between those buckets rather than picking one "winner."

ThanklessWaterHeater

I’d say don’t invest where the money is flowing from; invest where the money is flowing to. Silicon fabs are in the midst of a massive buildout of new capacity all around the world. The new facilities will need eye watering amounts of new lithography, packaging, testing and quality control equipment. The beneficiaries over the next few years will be the makers of that equipment: AMAT, LRCX, KLAC, ASML, etc.

Inevitable_Zebra_0

That's the thing for most people, they only hear about hot stocks when they've already become hot and everybody starts talking about them, and they start wanting a piece of the pie too (FOMO). Which usually don't go well for them, because they start entering when the stock has already been hyped up too much, and long-term holders start taking profits. LRCX, alongside AMAT, ASML and several others had always been a huge value with big potential, wide moat to the point of being a monopoly and well run businesses overall, but you had to be a geek/connected to the semi industry to know these names before the AI cycle made them know to the average retail investor.

Muted-Pace-5706

the structural vs cyclical question is exactly the right one to ask before sizing options here. if you believe the WFE cycle is now 5+ years, short-dated calls on AMAT or KLAC are the wrong vehicle - you want LEAPS so theta isnt eating you alive while the thesis plays out. the other thing worth watching is that ASML IV tends to spike on any export restriction headline, which creates periodic windows to buy longer-dated calls at a discount before the next leg.

OptionsHuduga

I sold AMAT and ASML this morning like a fn cuckmaxxer. AMA

WhoCares450

I mean there are ton, but here are some samples: \- Up 90% on ASML. \- Bought AXP last week, up 5.5%, but I expect this to grow. \- GLW, the same as above, but up 13%, expect that to grow for next 2-3 years, similar to AXP. I'm currently digging into AI supply chain, hence above. While everyone jumped on Sandisk, etc band wagon, which is good, that is already passed, I'm looking into what's next.

Anonn39

Me personally I do read the earnings report but I don't read every info, just focus on the info that I use to value the company. For the semi stocks I hold like BESI and ASML I look for their reported EPS, their revenue, their profit margins, their statements on order backlogs etc, and calculate the growth rate of the company quarter over quarter and YoY (usually the brokers already did this for me). And then I look for their guidance and statement on the general market. Then I calculate the PEG to see if the stock is expensive or cheap, and look at the rate of changes. Most of the time the conclusion for the position is that I just need to keep holding the stock. Not sure if this is an optimal "strategy" but I try to do what I know best.

Clackamas_river

ASML is going to be happy.

Prize_Bar_5767

$ASML to capture some of it.

Primary_Olive_5444

ASML -> Region (ship to location) should see higher south korea. https://preview.redd.it/ckurmb5kp4ah1.png?width=1898&format=png&auto=webp&s=eeb4070c7570c7cfe4f510d562f10564bb51f0f8

throw_keeb

You should probably order up some machines from ASML and get on competing. I'm sure you can get delivery by 2030 or so?

GloomyMembership4197

Green week ahead, because June 4 incoming. War contained. SK + Samsung 61B investment alleviates HBM4 bottleneck. With no limits on HBM4, AI gear suppliers now can increase production to meet demand. ASML pop cuz more lithography devices needed. NVIDIA, AMD pop, cuz more RAM available. Google pop, cuz more RAM available. Etc.

old_Spivey

My humble opinion, everyone should be buying GOOGL, NVDA, AVGO, and ASML as much as possible right now.

Prize_Bar_5767

Long $ASML?

aperartnft

ASML is a tough one to argue against over the long run. It's one of the few true bottlenecks in the entire semiconductor industry. On Broadcom vs AMD, I mostly agree with your reasoning. AMD probably has the higher upside if it keeps taking AI share but Broadcom feels like the more diversified AI infrastructure play and after the recent pullback the expectations are a bit more grounded.

Potential_Web_4092

There's a racist premium on it like other European founded stocks till they earned too much. Same with spotify, ASML, Jumia, flutter, Fartec, Lilium, Couchbase, MariaDB, etc If they were founded in America they would be closer to intrinsic value. Likely more.

fake212121

ASML. Im adding into it if i see a red day, minimum 100-300$ i will add. Within 6-7 months I got like close to 5 shares and almost 30% up. AMD is way went up and others like mrvl qualcomm intel. I would pick broadcom if i hat to chose amd cs avgo vs mrvl

PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE

> ASML videos That's just `Asianometry` 🦌

sigmakry

The $31 EPS guide is impressive on the surface, but you're right to be cautious — the bar just got raised significantly higher for the entire semi sector. When Micron beats by that margin, the market immediately reprices expectations for ASML, TSMC, and the rest of the chain upward. That's the trap. The real risk in July isn't a miss — it's a "good but not good enough" earnings season. If TSMC guides in line but doesn't raise, that gets sold. If ASML shows any EUV order softness, the whole equipment space cracks. From a positioning standpoint, the smarter play might be to fade the semi euphoria heading into earnings and look for re-entry post-report. The Chandelier Exit levels on MU and AMAT are worth watching closely — if either breaks below their 22-day trailing stops on high volume, that's a clean signal to step aside regardless of the fundamental narrative. July earnings are always a volatility event. The question is whether you're trading the number or the reaction to the number.

EYtNSQC9s8oRhe6ejr

I think ASMR is just what they call ASML in Japan

TreGet234

I read that as ASML videos, my brain is fully rotted with tech stocks.

GlorifiedPlumber

You seem to be describing fab tools, like ASML, AMAT, LAM, etc. that go into the fabs. I literally design the FABS, the buildings, the cleanrooms, their utilities, clean gases, UPW, waste water treatments, etc. They're 3 to 4 year cradle to grave projects (from I want a fab! to blowdown), not inclusive of years and years of tool installation ramp. 100% of the projects we have right now are being done so that people can sell the AI machine hardware (think selling shovels to the gold miners, the ONLY people making money), and if that outlet didn't exist, they'd be canceled or transitioned to something we call a "warm shell" or "cold shell." "Cold shell" is kind of the new norm. At least with a warm shell, we usually finish our design, but for a cold shell.. a lot of shit stops to just do concrete and this is a huge risk. Honestly, cold shelling is a risk IMO. I have yet to see one started up years later without MASSIVE retrofitting. Now, they like a lot of pre-cast, which... wah wah, won't retrofit like they want (put holes for duct and pipe where you need em). So if the cold shell used a lot of pre-cast (which is kind of the sexy thing to do) then, I don't think those will retrofit the way the clients think they will. This is going to be a billion dollar problem one day, but at least, in the future. I digress, Fabs I helped design YEARS ago (let's say 2019-2022) era, are just now having some of their second large mods being "turned on" (as putting tools in the warm shell or starting up the cold shell) and it's 4-7 years later (thankfully these did not use Pre-cast concrete in key areas). As well, AI has been gong show for 2 ish years, and those companies are just NOW using that cleanroom space, and it doesn't turn on in an instant. So are they going to make it? Who knows. So my point, is that AI is triggering a huge amount of cleanroom square footage buildout; if that demand goes away, there is going to be SO MUCH "available" cleanroom space that I worry I won't ever have a job again. Demand will crater, which means the business unit where I work, which does just fabs, won't be able to survive, and that expertise will go away to do other work.

Own-Recipe5908

[GlobalFoundries CTO on Why the Company Abandoned the “Bleeding Edge” - IEEE Spectrum](https://spectrum.ieee.org/globalfoundries-cto-on-why-the-company-abandoned-the-bleeding-edge) >***IEEE Spectrum*****:** What are you going to do with the two EUV machines you installed? >**Gary Patton:** We’ll be working with [ASML](https://spectrum.ieee.org/tag/asml) to figure out the best use of them. A likely or possible outcome is that we end up selling those tools. The China headline doesn't seem well sourced, just accusations about ASML routing one to China through GFS that ASML denies. [Micron is the last memory maker to join the EUV party — company aims for EUV DRAM mass production in 2025 | Tom's Hardware](https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/micron-pushes-dram-tech-with-euv-lithography-aims-for-mass-production-in-2025) >Micron has finally added advanced EUV lithography to its DRAM production nodes as its newest process node enters pilot production. Unlike its competitors, Micron was in no hurry to use EUV lithography to make DRAM, so it is the last in the industry to adopt the most advanced technology available. This year, Micron began pilot production of DRAM memory on its 1γ (1-gamma) fabrication process, which will [enter high volume manufacturing (HVM) next year](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/micron-delays-euv-ram-to-2025-lays-off-10-of-workforce).  >Today, Micron's memory chip production uses process technologies that rely exclusively on DUV lithography. Basically DUV is sufficient for current memory tech.

c00750ny3h

To get a micron sized memory chip plant, you are probably looking at 150B dollars worth of initial investment. Even if they had that cash, you have to get square miles of land and ensure nearby residents aren't upset about the dangerous chemicals going in and out. There is also tools. I'd guess micron has at least 200 ASML lithography machines scattered throughout all their factories around the world. An older Gen 193nm ArF lithography machine isn't something they haul out of their warehouse on a forklift. One lithography machine is like building a house and ASML at best could probably make one or two a month. Same with etch deposition Chambers. I'd guess micron has at least 5000 etch deposition chambers, and companies like Lam Research or Tokyo Electron could only make 50 or 100 of those a month. All in all, even with infinite cash, getting a micron sized memory fab, considering logistics, supply and tooling concerns, the earliest I can see them up and running is 7 or 8 years down the road. And who knows if by then the memory demand cycle ends and they are left with a huge money pit.

ez399017

MU, NVDA, NBIS, ASML but mostly MU

AdIndividual3272

That's a short term outlook. ASML has better valuation by a large amount.

AdIndividual3272

ASML has very few real competitors. ASML better forward P/E safer long term. Micron serves a diffrent customer base and is not even close in value. ASML is miles ahead of Micron. You'd be better off comparing Nvidia or TSM to ASML.

drew-gen-x

Keep BTD in the Bag 7 stocks, Retail. I would hate to see the Bag 7 stocks run out of cash to spend on SK Hynix, Samsung, ASML, and TSM. My port thanks you all for your sacrifice : )

Consistent_Panda5891

Energy is bottleneck. Puts it is in anything related to USA. Did you not see 2 days ago Smci photo looking for "alternative energy sources"? Lmao. They dilute to raise 20B as banks did not want to issue more bonds. Is just matter of few weeks as you say Chinese has it's AI models replacing others, and not only that but also DRAM and not more than 2-3year they manage to start building chip hardware with ASML copies they got with stolen tech

-sakuranbo

ADRs mostly trade OTC, and when they do get listed on exchanges, they're even more dead than pre-market trading. ASML ADRs trade on NASDAQ and the volume is extremely thin, even though I'd expect them to be one of the popular companies to trade during the bull market on semi stocks.

Wide-Contribution-29

Please panic sell ASML. I would love to be able to afford a LEAP at a discount

camillabbb

AI spending first flows into memory, then into foundry and lithography equipment. That's exactly why Micron is printing monster profits befor TSMC and ASML see their full uptick in earnings power.

Equivalent-Farmer576

Yeah right, ASML was not a flourishing company before AI, time to go to sleep. Plus you are going totally west on my point with cell manufacturers, I indeed said they are benefiting from EVs which however is not the case for EVs manufacturer. Don’t know how to say it anymore, let the future talk. Before each bubble we had people convinced it wasn’t one. Yeah that’s easy to say “but the dotcom bubble was predictable with those fake/low revenues” yet at that time all people did was investing in those companies with no future whatsoever and pointing the revenues of the big runners (Amazon, Microsoft, Google…). Good night, and good investing :)

Ohhmama11

So you’re saying nvda was flourishing before AI? ASML, AMD ect? SMCI was what 5 billion to 21 billion because of AI Imagine thinking a company’s 1991 founding date dictates its 2026 revenue drivers. Nvidia isn't selling gaming GPUs to teenagers anymore, they are selling AI infrastructure to the entire planet. They didn't just benefit from the boom they literally built the engine for it and not to mention your EV analogy actually proves my point lmao. If the EV boom happens, and battery cell manufacturers see their revenues shoot up 400%, then yes those cell manufacturers are absolutely flourishing because EVs. You’re trying to argue the shovels aren't part of AI but AI futures for hyper scalers and Chatgtp doesn’t exist without them

GloomyMembership4197

They lie about RAM bottleneck. Just buy ASML mashines ant print those rams like there is no tomorrow.

PriorScreen7613

Step 1. Get a machine from ASML. GL

AgitatedJump8459

For everyone into ASML, check ASMI and BESI. Dutch semi conductor companies with much more room to grow

JPL_WSB_BRRRRR

Here with €7k. Shame I did not have more spare cash or positions for sale to get more. Might trim some more ASML today to double it 😃 https://preview.redd.it/b8es6sbikd9h1.png?width=615&format=png&auto=webp&s=1384686709778d7adeb04d0120e3ab8e62886769

Forgetwhatitoldyou

Micron, SK, and Samsung own all the patents.  It takes tens of billions to build a single fab, and a decade or two to actually be able to get decent yields from it.  There's a long line for EUV machines from ASML.  Demand is going to probably at *least* triple - probably more - by 2030, while supply will only double.  And supply is already much short of current demand.   YMTC and CXMT have been working on this for about 15 years, and are only now getting decent yields, on chips 2-3 generations behind.  They can't get EUV machines, so their yields and cost margins are crap on more advanced stuff.  

Chuu

Lithiography. China is working on their own EUV lithography machines but are years behind. ASML is still really the only game in town.

NerdSlamPo

I really like ASML as a handcuff to MU, since MU will likely depend on them for production. Bought in after the jump today so time will tell if it’s a winning play.

chauhan_shubham

GOOG has been going downhill , ASML is a shining star.

Muted_Wasabi_1284

Buying leveraged ASML to offset Goog calls Jesus wtf

-twind

ASML is European

LilRobloz

Not market collapse, but tech hardware selloff, the money keeps flowing from the fear of hyperscalers, you only need one of them to cut a few billions from the capex and the whole sector will have a chain reaction. For now they keep spending, money goes to data centers that need gpus that need memory, the racks need networking and so on. All of that so you can have data centers ready for the frontier ai labs that want to train and run their model which makes negative money. Yes the whole "but they have revenue unlike in the dot com" is true, but the foundation of why the money keep flowing is rotten. Ai does not generate that kind of value that requires this amount of spending. I had MU, CRDO, ASML and other smaller positions that benefit from the whole AI boom and i still have some left, but from a boom it is turning into a bubble really fast.

Consistent_Panda5891

So investment in yen? 😂. Thing is about to burst hard within next 2 years. Either Chinese competition makes US investments a money lost stuff(they are also more close than ever to be able to compete with ASML hardware). Time to short SOX semiconductor ETF is approaching. But I let short for others, puts is the play as Leopold did wisely weeks ago(and cashed out obv as top is not in)

Ok-Nose29

No major AI earnings until ASML 2 weeks from now means lots of room for speculative pump baby

StrategyEven3974

the only thing that could devalue ASML is if someone invents something better than EUV and is scaleable in the next 10 years. So, basically impossible.

Forsaken_Area_6690

USA should have no say on who ASML sells to.

OverwroughtPraise

They're also buying more EUV machines from ASML. Summoning a machine god out of sand is a capital-intensive endeavor.

Soffatjockis

Calls on ASML They have the mother of all shovels

hughter

They've got ASML which is the backbone of modern chips and are working on several fabs.

bihari_baller

They still have ASML.

crankthehandle

Only the EU is watching from the sideline. Or the assume that having ASML headquartered in the Netherlands is enough.

Primary_Olive_5444

They got Rapidus (their own version of TSMC, but don’t expect volume) So ASML EUV machine ftw

That-Requirement-233

ASML has been priced in for weeks lol

Used-Air-2688

This looks more like a **valuation reset** than a fundamental collapse. A few things are happening at once: * Investors are questioning whether AI-related companies can generate enough profits to justify their massive valuations. * Concerns about higher interest rates hurt growth stocks the most because much of their value comes from future earnings. * After huge runs in Nvidia, Micron, ASML, Samsung, and other AI beneficiaries, many investors are taking profits. What's notable is that the selling isn't isolated to one company. It's hitting the entire AI supply chain—from chip designers to memory manufacturers to equipment makers. That said, one bad day doesn't necessarily signal the end of the AI bull market. The key thing to watch is whether: 1. Earnings continue growing rapidly. 2. Companies maintain AI spending. 3. Investors keep rewarding that growth with premium valuations. If earnings remain strong but multiples keep compressing, the market may be entering a phase where "great company" no longer automatically means "great stock." For long-term investors, this could simply be a healthy correction. For heavily concentrated AI portfolios, it's a reminder that owning multiple semiconductor stocks isn't the same as being diversified.

Primary_Olive_5444

Offshore loan -> means USD. Means HBM and CPU + (GPU or XPU) + Network Switch + Optics and Finally + Nuclear Power HBM and CPU + (GPU or XPU) => means ASML and others

Ohlele

all are super risky, except for ASML.

Cav829

Yeah, Intel bought the vast majority of ASML's first delivery of EUV machines. I get the "hype" about Intel. It's a great turn-around story. Their desire is to try to become the next TSMC is laudable. The business world still sees TSMC as one of the biggest risks the global market because of the obvious geopolitical risks. If not for that, it might be trading as a higher market cap than even Microsoft and Amazon. The problem is the market got waaaaaay ahead of itself. Like the chip deal they got with Apple is for older processors since "the big boys" in the space are way too backed up. They fell behind AMD and got priced like they were going out of business, then got priced back in as the now 21st biggest company on the planet on the mere notion they could in what... 5-10 years start competing with TSMC? This is as a time AMD's market cap nearly tripled when they weren't even fully proven in the AI space because of the mere idea agentic AI might cause their profits to skyrocket. People were way ahead of calling the bubble back in the Fall. There was still something of a logic behind even some of the pricier companies. Now we're actually seeing it with valuations front-running companies by many years. Yeah, so funny about a lot of what you next wrote as I know I got some nasty glares for bringing this up in another thread, but people love throwing around the Dot Com comparisons while forgetting one of the most important lessons of the Dot Com era: don't get caught up in a CapEx explosion. We made the exact same mistake back then: the "picks and shovels' analogy got thrown around, everyone went all-in on the semis, and people spent the next 2 decades waiting to get their money back from the Qualcomms, Ciscos, and MUs of the world. Meanwhile, the long-term winners were... software and e-commerce. But it's going to be a mess getting there, and the ugly reality a lot of people are increasingly coming to the realization is that AI might be heavily commoditized. If the individual models lack moats and pricing power, it doesn't mean the tech is dead: it just means everything was priced wrong from the start and the "repricing" will be an ugly affair. Mind you, I think Street insiders are probably happy with the setup as enough investors are still around from the Dot Com era to recognize how this is likely to play out: milk every last dime you can from the CapEx spend as free money, dump everything once it looks like the bubble is ready to burst, and flee to the sectors likely to profit the most once we actually figure out the business use of AI. Plus adding on to what you said, I think the big players want to spend the money now because they know we're coming to the end of the 100-year debt cycle in the next couple years. If you're going to spend this kind of crazy money, now is the last chance to do it before you have to start tightening the purse strings. BTW super fun conversation. One of the best ones I've had on here recently. I do really enjoy trying to reason this stuff out rather than just throwing up your hands and saying the market makes no sense.

Subject-Chest-8343

Intel is a particularly interesting case. I was looking at it not too long ago, when it was 20$... I couldn't believe the amount of hate accross social media, it was like the unanimous opinion was that it was a shit company with shit product, and going to zero. I mean, historically if you were in the market for a CPU, it was either AMD or Intel... And sometimes AMD had some better price/performance deals for gaming, but Intel ALWAYS had the best CPUs. Now, AMD currently has bested Intel on their latest generation, but will that last forever ? Besides, Intel still wins on single core performance. Apple somehow managed to beat Intel on their latest processors, which is interesting, but irrelevant to most people on this planet cause they're not on IOS. Intel also always had the best Wi-Fi modules, bar none, and as far as I know this is still the case. At a time when more and more stuff has Wi-Fi connectivity. Intel also is unprofitable right now cause they're massively investing to produce next-gen products on US soil. Which is a big gamble, but it also could pay off massively. Didn't they reserve all of the machines that ASML will make this year, or something like that ? Then Intel went up 6x on basically no new information... Crazy stuff. Like at some point people realized Intel was still making chips, which are the current theme, and it doesn't matter what they are or who makes them. >The $30 trillion question at the center of all of this: how is any of this supposed to create the kind of sustainable market needed to justify these valuations if nobody believes in any of the companies footing the CapEx bill? That's the question I've been asking myself for years now... The answer I usually get is something like ''it can't be a bubble, the hardware sales are real''. Then I go ''that's precisely a bubble if the hardware is bought to perform unprofitable tasks''. The funniest part is the schizophrenic disconnect between the whole ''short software long hardware'' theme. Look at how Palantir dropped hard from June 1st, exactly at the same time as the IGV etf. That eTF contains currently hated names such as SalesForce and ServiceNow, but also Palantir. And love them or hate them, Palantir's entire business is based on leveraging AI to increase productivity in large organizations... Youy know, the whole thing that people hope is going to justify the AI capex spending. THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY THAT, and they get shorted like they were some dinosaur legacy firm selling fax machine firmware. I know PLTR still has a high valuation, just mentioning how the market recently seems to be lumping them will any and all other software companies. Another funny example is MSTR. Most of their business is now their bitcoin accumulation strategy, but they are included in the IGV index as a software company. And the crazy thing is their software actually leverages AI tools. So anyone shorting the index is also shorting this company which actually makes money with AI, which should be the reason behing going long semis in the first place... The idea that the hardware will be in demand because at some point people will make money off it. And by shorting the index, you are also getting short bitcoin exposure, which should be a different conversation altogether. >blames the whole thing on Direxion's double/triple leverage long and short ETFs. I pretty much doubt this is the root cause of the problem, as these are mostly retail products. Traditional wisdom says retail rarely moves the needle that much. And I suspect many people are using these for convenience, instead of options. As in, the volume you see there would probably be in the derivatives market instead if these ETFs didn't exist. My gut feeling is the big players know a wall is coming, but the incentives aren't there to kill the hype train. Aside from SpaceX and the 2 insane IPOs coming, I think Google and others also raised massive amounts of money... Could be they know winter is coming, but they all think they can survive just fine if they can fill the coffers enough before it hits.

Vast-Palpitation-426

this is my AI picks & shovels sleeve https://preview.redd.it/1flkrm9aw29h1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=7cea1f616db6fe5d97d61b2aa7d2fa4395814ee2 \+ ASML, Nebius and Schneider electric

PhasedVenturer

ASML, my eyes!

razeusv2

I was THIS close to having a 200% gain on ASML. It refuses to get there.

triwyn

absolute generational buy opportunity with ASML. i’m not even being funny. what the actual fuck.

Spac55

$MU any earnings hiccups are nowadays 20-30% crash Saw $AVGO $ASML $INTU $ZS earnings 20-30% drop Any small hiccups at ER, either outlook , double triple order news, prepare for 20% drop in a day, after big run MU at 197% above 200-day

epic_troll_tard

How many shares of ASML do you own

Spac55

AAPL, got an excuse to pump phone cost Actually looking to hike for inflation, but blaming memory, otherwise get Tweeting blast That pump semi $SOXX $MU $SNDK $WDC $ASML and so on Memory glut by Samsung nowadays

VoidMageZero

Asset light is the old model imo, these companies are doing massive capex spending to grow their physical supply chains because of Covid, Suez, Hormuz, tariffs, etc. MU, INTC, Samsung, Hynix, TSM, ASML, etc. are manufacturers, it's the opposite of asset light.

EmergencyFrogs

I really don't know why this sentiment that you couldn't possibly beat the S&P is so prevelant. I've increasing bought the S&P less as time has gone on. The individuals I invested in heavily were Taiwan Semi, AMAT, ASML, and Google and they've grossly outperformed the S&P. I mean even doing another index like QQQ, you'd have outperformed the S&P by a lot. Most people are buying VOO or some other weighted index, so it's not even truly that diversified.

hagos20

Ok I just read all the comments and I don’t think anyone asked what % of your total portfolio is MRVL, ALAB and ASML? That’s important to know. Also, how old are you? This also should weigh on your decision. Personally, I’ve held stocks to 1000% gains (i.e. NVDA) and am still holding. But on the flip side, I’ve held stocks that I was up 100s of % on and thought it would keep going, only to watch it go lower and lower and lower all the while thinking it’ll bounce (it did not). Now at this point I’m holding until/if it recovers but only because it’s about 10% of my portfolio. You don’t want to be in this situation. For example, if ALAB drops 30% next month, are you holding or selling? What if it drops another 30% the following month? And so on. At a minimum, as everyone else suggested, TRIM. In this weird market/Trump era, I take profits when I got them. Do I miss out on some more? Sure. But I’m fine with a few 100% in a few weeks to months. Then when there’s a dip, I buy back in. Rinse and repeat until the dip just keeps on dipping. To be clear, I buy the dip with 2028 calls. I use about 40% of my portfolio for options, the rest is shares in solid companies I’m holding till I retire (AAPL, MSFT, HD, GOOGL, JPM, etc)

ez399017

I added 10% to my ASML position today. It is a bit overvalued but it also has an impenetrable moat. Hard to divest a company with their position in the semi market.

ez399017

ASML still the goat of moat

ez399017

Good day to have my full port in MU, NBIS, ASML

prestodigitarium

Actively investing in Tesla when they unveiled the Model S, Nvidia, TSMC, and ASML in 2016, Apple when Jobs returned, SpaceX in 2018, Cerebras in 2020, my play money account has absolutely crushed my core index fund holdings - the play money account is now significantly larger than the index funds, which started much larger. Diversification is the safe path, but fortunes are made with concentration. And it’s easy to diamond hand stock that has no liquidity :-)

drew-gen-x

Another new ATH for $VXUS (World ex US) this morning. You have to watch where the money is going. Reddit's fave AI cap ex hyperscalers are spending their entire 2026 FCF plus even more debt plus diluting their shares and sending the majority of that cash to Samsung, SK, TSMC, ASML, etc. Add in the USA weaponizing the USD. 1st it was Biden freezing Russian foreign assets held abroad in USD and then DJT w/ his assnine tariffs. Foreign capital is being repatriated from US debt & stocks back into their home foreign economies out of necessity and now these foreign economies are showing massive growth.

davidbigham

AMAT and ASML been going crazy lately

Thisispaartaaa

ASML leverage

_Mido

Aight, I just put most of my savings into ASML, Apple and TSMC. Will try not to look at them for some time now lol

ShittyUsernane1222

how would markets react if all mag7 companies +TSMC +ASML did an merger into an single publicly traded mega-conglomerate?

Good-Tiger-1938

ASML sale would be blocked by NL/EU

Inevitable_Salt_1875

ASML is Dutch, Alibabito’s bag is probably ARM 😂 If he’s shilling ARM for QQQ inclusion you’re literally playing index front‑run roulette, not fundamentals. Trad clouds aren’t the comp here anyway, it is semis infrastructure and hype, so just treat it like a meme swing and set a level where you nuke it.

drew-gen-x

Until the AI cap ex hyperscalers stop spending their entire 2026 FCF plus extra debt and keep diluting their stock. none of them are buys IMHO. Buy what they are spending their money on. Look at $SOXX, $CAT, $VXUS (Samsung, SK, TSMC, ASML). I tend to look that all this cash is moving from the USA to Pacific Asia area. Nvidia ain't making any of these chips in the USA. The $SOXX has moved too far too fast so I like $VXUS. Follow the flow of money.

stonksf

You're retarded to think 85B buys ASML and intc

Howzitgoin

Execs don’t approve company sales. Boards that are put into place by large shareholders do. These companies aren’t startups with a bunch of insiders as the largest investors. ASML isn’t even American.

Deep-Age-2133

Elon should buy Intel and ASML and control the chip market, half cash half stock

vk_phoenix

ASML

Responsible-Age-1495

It was at $686, in a notable decline is more accurate. The war premium is puzzling, but the pump is just how the market gives itself room to run in either direction. Would you buy ASML or META at these prices? If the answer is no, I think we all know a market correction is likely in a rising interest rate environment. Warsh will likely have no choice after a summer of inflated gas prices.

AlpacaDream7

ASML dip was a gift from the gods

Les7X

jfc you fatties dumped ASML

Coda70

Solid. thank you. hadn't heard of that one. I've got some SEMI, DRAM and BXDC. I checked the holdings and SEMI sounds similar to yours but upon closer look yours is more AI driven. and I was looking for Hynix and ASML exposure. I'm buying chpx

Legitimate-Painter-4

ASML, silent runner, been buying since 2024 at 700, current price 1900

Marketdeigh

ASML is giving me a boner but Software is trying to put a finger in my dick

ez399017

My port is 329 $MU, 447 $NBIS, 18.025 $ASML. Am I properly diversified?

brookedow

ASML Holding N.V. (ASML)?

PrimePlaya

I see my comment went over your head. You said: “The more price goes up, the more competition can enter.” ASML’s price has gone up dramatically, yet there is still no competition. So by that logic, no matter how much MU and SNDK have gone up, not just anyone can enter the memory game.

MaleCowShitDetector

ASML is the one selling the machines, not RAM wtf are you smoking?