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Samsung Electronics makes 17-fold gains from investment in ASML
The future picks and shovels of AI may not be GPUs but ASICs, following the crypto trajectory. GOOGL and the dreaded Samsung appear to be the leaders in this space. What is the highest-weighted Samsung ETF and what are other industry-leading AI FPGA/ASICs tickers?
The Giant Behind AI Technology: ASML Holdings N.V.
ASML sales and gross margin beat guidance, but continues to see mixed demand signals
Investment Strategy China Invasion of Taiwan + interefence USA
List of public companies that are integral to AI?
Nvidia released a new "nuclear bomb", Google chatbot is also coming, computing power stocks again on the tide of halt
Daily U.S. Stock Market News Flash (Thursday, March 9)
Why did ASML stock drop 5% between 13:30 and 14:40 CET (Amsterdam time)?
Ride the AI Roller Coaster to Strike Gold: Invest in NVIDIA, ASML, and TSMC and step into the future.
AMD, Nvidia lead chips lower as results from Texas Instruments, ASML spurs caution
There‘s a massive earnings week coming up. All Betards looking for Tesla. I‘m more interested in Blackstone, ASML, Microsoft, Credit card companies, 3M and Intel.
Semiconductor. how did other countries become #1 and not USA?
What are some good semiconductor stocks to hold long-term?
Are these tech stocks all worthy of long term investment?
A globally critical chip firm (ASML) is driving a wedge between the U.S. and Netherlands over China tech policy
What is holding the US back from global semiconductor dominance?
Market Weekly Recap: FAAMG, Chip, Software Sectors jumped heavily, coin market tumbled
must read book to under stand the semi conductor industry - Chip wars, chip shortages - etc
Is ASML a less risky semi conductor play because it is not based in China/Taiwan?
Powell did exactly as i thought yesterday which makes me even more bullish now
Market Weekly Recap: Streaming, Chips, Airline Stocks Led the Gain, Tesla Earnings Alarmed the Tech
ASML shrugs off slowdown, U.S. China sanctions, reports strong Q3 earnings
ASML, a major global chip company, jumps 6% after earnings; do you think semiconductor stocks are about to start rising sharply?
Semiconductor route wipes out $240 Billion from chipmakers - TSMC drops 8.3% and Samsung and Tokyo Electron also declined.
Signs are piling up that the tech downturn may be deeper and longer-lasting than feared.
It is insane that Americans aren't looking for bargain bucket European stocks right now
Apple Ditches iPhone Production Increase After Demand Falters
Apple Ditches iPhone Production Increase After Demand Falters
Safe long term investing but you can only trade individual stocks
What’s a stock that’s currently well below its fair value that has great growth potential?
Big week coming here are my positions and thoughts
What would happen to the chip industry if China acquires Siemens Digital Industries Software?
Is Value Investing started to fade away due to more and more efficient the market has become?
Why Germans companies that are essential for the production of chips among other technologies didn't grow as the tech companies in the US and Asia did?
VentureBeat: Deloitte: The end of the semiconductor shortage is near.
Help me beat Ray Dalio and get back my $2,500+ (ASML puts)
Bridgewater shorting for 6.7 billions openly. Trick?
What stocks would you consider to have a monopoly, duopoly, or oligopoly in their respective industries?
I am 100% in a single stock (ASML, ~300K), and los 17,5K today. I bought 50K extra, and will probably try to keep buying extra when I have more funds available (based my DD and all. Can post it if peoppe want to read. But first here is some loss porn).
Market outlook articles for 05/22 (2 Bear & 2 Bull)
AMD’s earnings outlook expected to give a clearer picture of where the chip sector is headed
Does Debit Spread have protection for IV crash in earning play?
ASML Stock Surges Despite Sales Forecasts Missing Estimates
ASML: CEO and CTO will depart within 2 years while NVDA seeks to double authorized shares
ASML: CEO and CTO will depart within 2 years while NVDA seeks to double authorized shares
Invesco is spending a lot of money advertising QQQ as "access to innovation". Does that claim hold up?
How will the next phase of the chip wars affect companies like: AMD, ASML, NVDA, INTC, Samsung, TSMC?
How will the next phase of the chip wars affect companies like: AMD, ASML, NVDA, INTC, Samsung, TSMC?
How come ASML isn’t supported on Robinhood?
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I’m not sure this is exactly the truth as there are other nations that were also destroyed in the world wars and that were also economically/technologically behind europe in asia for example with tech today that rivals Europe. Is it momentum or a disinterest from Europeans to compete in the tech arena with American/Asian firms? There’s an obscene amount of wealth/intellectual knowledge in Europe and the fact that most people can’t name more then ASML or perhaps SAP is a problem that europe created it’s self.
Brokers like Fidelity or Schwab allow you to buy ADRs if you want to own foreign companies like TSM, ASML, etc
it's an entrenched monopoly that has so much investment nobody can stomach to compete Nvidia can be worth $1B, but whether it's made on Samsung or TSMC, they all get their equipment from $ASML
I mean, $ASML literally can't go tits up
* RKLB: SpaceX competitor. #2 for 1% the price, but not profitable yet. Neutron launch in 2024 so that's pretty hype. * ILMN: ASML of genetic sequencing. They used to be profitable but made terrible deals in 2022. * PLTR: Apple of analytics software. They are in a good position to provide a platform to streamline the implementation of LLMs. Profitable for 2 quarters straight.
Isn’t it possible that they will rotate from the large cap AI stocks to the small cap AI stocks? ie. from NVDA, ASML and AMD to RXRX, DUOL and DNA
Intel is the last leading edge logic foundry to utilize EUV lithography in chip production despite being one of the larger investors in ASML's EUV efforts. Btw... Samsung/TSMC were also investors.
INTC is first in line for next gen High NA EUV machines from ASML. They're going to be installed at the new foundry in Columbus, OH. These lithography machines will usher in the Angstrom era of semiconductors.
Intel uses ASML machines in fact was one of the earliest investors in ASML
Why is ASML no factor in your consideration?
16.6% Canadian Natural Resources 16.6% Morgan Stanley 16.6% AMD 16.6% ASML 16.6% Zscaler 16.6% Clearway energy Tell me if some of their competitors are better, or if some of them are destined to fail. My goal is to add on to these stocks every year or so. Some of them have exceptional dividends but I tried to make sure I wasn’t just looking at the dividends, though I do appreciate the dividends.
Did the same thing with ASML calls previous week. Missed $70k. I’m not closing any positions before expiry going forward.
And ASML is the company selling the machines that creates the supplies
Old Cathie may be salty, but NVDA kinda looks like an AI Bubble. NVDA is not in the Top 5 of semiconductor companies with the most revenue. But now with its huge market cap, NVDA can buy AVGO, AMD, INTC, QCOM, and MU, and still have some change left over. Now that's RICH... **Here are the top 5 largest semiconductor companies by revenue:** 1. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSM): Revenue (TTM): $71.66 billion 2. Intel Corp. (INTC): Revenue (TTM): $69.54 billion 3. Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM): Revenue (TTM): $42.10 billion 4. Broadcom Inc. (AVGO): Revenue (TTM): $33.20 billion 5. Micron Technology Inc. (MU): Revenue (TTM): $30.76 billion \*\*\* **NVIDIA’s revenue (TTM) is $26.974 billion** \*\*\* **Here are the largest semiconductor companies by market cap:** **Rank \*Company \*\* Market Cap** 1 NVIDIA (ticker: NVDA) - **$977.20 B** 2 TSMC (ticker: TSM) - $514.51 B 3 Samsung (ticker: 005930.KS-Korea) - $357.40 B 4 Broadcom (ticker: AVGO) - $331.68 B 5 ASML (ticker: ASML) - $287.15 B \*\*\*\* **US Semiconductor Companies by Market Cap** **Company \*\* Market Cap** Broadcom (ticker: AVGO) - $331.68 B AMD (ticker: AMD) - $193.08 B Intel (ticker: INTC) - $130.46 B QUALCOMM (ticker: QCOM) - $129.01 B Micron Technology (ticker: MU) - $75.86 B **Total $860.09B**
ASML has been the masterminds behind chip manufacturing for a long loong time now. I think at 700+ dollars per share, it's safe to say you missed the boat on that one.
I bought SOFI at $4.50 a few weeks ago after their price downgrade. Felt good about it but sold out at $5.25 to jump on the AI hype because SOFI wasn't moving much and I thought the bank weakness would continue to drag on it. Bought ASML and now I feel like an idiot. Should have just held FML
In all fairness, ASML, TSMC, and AMD all popped at the same time as NVidia. INTC is a little late to the party, but otherwise I think it's already happened.
Table of Contents AI Stock 1: Nvidia Powering AI with Cutting-Edge Hardware and Software AI Stock 2: Microsoft Infusing AI into Every Aspect of Operations AI Stock 3: ASML Holdings Enabling Chip Manufacturing Advancements with Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography AI Stock 4: Alphabet Harnessing AI to Transform Industries AI Stock 5: Baidu China’s AI Powerhouse AI Stock 6: Amazon AI Integration Across Ecosystems AI Stock 7: Salesforce AI for Enhanced Customer Relationship Management AI Stock 8: IBM Leveraging AI in Enterprise Solutions AI Stock 9: Tesla Revolutionizing Transportation with AI AI Stock 10: Qualcomm Enabling AI on Mobile Devices
There’s some debate about whether it’s 8nm or just a renamed 10nm: https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/06/22/nvidias-ampere-process-technology-sunk-by-samsung/ For what it’s worth, it’s classified as 10 nm on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_30_series It doesn’t matter what Samsung or anyone will do in the future. You asked about why the market seemingly has different opinions in April vs. May. The answer is that there is a brand new computing application with enormous demand *now* and Nvidia, TSMC, and ASML are the only folks that can fulfill demand *today.* The rest of the chip market is much more stable. I don’t know why you’re being rude about this. Are you trying to pump Samsung bags? It’s performing well this year. What more do you want?
Your stupid replies make chatGPT seem wise and unassertive by comparison. > They’re 10 nanometer chips. Samsung's output for nvidia that I referred to was 8nm node. > High end means the 4 nanometer H100 chips used in AI and other fancy applications. TSMC makes these. ASML makes the tools to make them. No one else can make them right now, which is why a potential WWIII centers around these chips. Samsung's 2023 production is at 3nm. Their 2025 production will be at 2nm. You are an ignorant fool.
Those are mid range. They’re 10 nanometer chips. They’re used for consumer applications like video games. Expensive by individual standards, but not commercial standards. Samsung and a few other companies make these. Computer hardware and smartphone sales are low these days in general. Low end means 45-90 nanometer chips used for airbags in cars and a ton of other simple applications. They are a cheap, high volume commodity. A ton of companies make these. High end means the 4 nanometer H100 chips used in AI and other fancy applications. They were going for $40,000 on Ebay. The US blocked China from buying them either to punish them economically or to stop them from putting them in missile guidance systems and the like. TSMC makes these. ASML makes the tools to make them. No one else can make them right now, which is why a potential WWIII centers around these chips.
TSMC, Alphabet and ASML seem somewhat reasonable though.
I find it ridiculous that you get downvoted lol - probably people don't like mentioning of ETFs in /r/stocks (yes, they exist). Personally I'm in a very similar situation like yours, even my current profit magin is like yours. Only difference being that I own SMH but they are similar anyway. After pondering a lot, I decide not to sell, for a few reasons: 1. We who own an ETF with NVDA in it, should have a totally different mindset from people owning NVDA directly. For people who own NVDA it's truly their once in a life time to profit a ton from selling it. If NVDA truly popped, there is a chance that they may never get the same price ever again. For you and I however, the semiconductor sector is here to stay. There is no rush for us to sell it now, as even if NVDA popped, we may still have some profit (although lower) caused by the other holdings. 2. If we sell the ETF, we are not only selling that 10% of Nvidia, but also selling the other 90% of non-Nvidia holdings. We don't know whether AMD or ASML or TSM will have a spike tomorrow or next year, but if you sell the ETF, you will lose the potential gains from the other holdings. 3. My own strategy is to passively DCA and own ETFs on a long term including sector ETFs (like a riskier boglehead), exploiting the strategy of 'time in the market' to the max. I also believe that semiconductor, however volitate the industry is, is a great long-term investment - I believe that even in the event that NVDA becomes the next Intel, the sector is still here to stay. If I decide to sell it now, it will create the first crack in my own strategy and belief, and may even tempt myself to go into riskier endavor. I prefer to have bit more principle and patience. 4. I have no use of extra cash right now, nor any good idea where to invest the profit anyway. Finally, in your case, you may have tax problems if you sell too. So that's my own thought. Also to consider: people are enthusiastic because they can sell them at 100~200% of profit, so it's way more important for them rather than our measly 25% of profit lol.
ASML makes fabrication gear. Otherwise you're talking about sand, water, and a lot of electricity.
I said they outperformed the sp500 over time! Get it straight smart-ass! UNH ASML LRCX UNP ORLY ODFL etc etc outperformed the market over the last 20 years.
ASML: I buy entire Semiconductor supply chain stocks. This company has a long wait line to deliver their product. On top of that, it requires 2-3 planes to ship each of them, and something like $250M+ per.
By that logic ASML and TSMC should be even more valuable
And NVDA is dependent on TSM which is in turn entirely dependent on ASML
To make chips U need very expensive & very high tech equipment. This is produced by Dutch Company ASML.
1) consult someone professional in person to weigh against this cesspool. 2) were it me, I would gather information on the tax implications of selling now and then likely sell 60%. I would wait for the short term AI earnings bubble to burst and diversify - QQQ/VOO are easy choices, or opt for something with a larger dividend payment especially if you have some way to receive the dividend tax free. (I'm Canadian, I don't know how that would work in the USA) 3) GOOGL was up 735% in the last 10 years. Some equities were up +1000%, some even more, and some less. QQQ 430%, VOO 200%, BLK 253%, ASML 1328%, etc.
If you look at an [exchange fund](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/exchange-fund.asp), you can essentially invest in non-Google stock by paying with your Google stock, and thus you aren't selling your stock and there are no capital gains to pay taxes on. I think this is likely one idea a financial advisor would suggest. This doesn't answer or negate the question as to whether or not Google is a better investment than other choices, especially depending on what the other stuff in an exchange fund is, and how it is managed and what say you have in its holdings. But it's definitely a way to diversify and there are certainly other tech stocks that have good growth opportunities and also have a quasi-monopoly on something, like Google does with search/ads (e.g. MSFT, NVDA, TSM, ASML).
Sold some of my company RSUs last Monday and 8x that same money via ASML (halo from NVDA) on Friday.
What I meant with no spike is the unusually crazy amounts like we saw in during blockchain phase. I dont see the crazy amounts of demand for this chipset and is incredibly pricey, you can see Microsoft admit that Bings demand is causing shortage of computing power and I don't think they can keep this up in a long run when cost to operate is higher than profit they will eventually cut corners and opt for low-cost alternatives. And I see many big corps baking their own chips in house ofc fabless where I see ASML and TSMC benefit.
The whole industry, no need to pick a winner. Semi companies often leap over each other from instantaneous significant developments, like AMD vs Intel, or ASML developing EUV to come from nowhere to a monopoly. Without knowing the R&D behind the scenes, you can’t really pick the next one.
ASML has a 2 and a half year waiting list bro and the new 3NM machines with be 500Million instead of 200Million a piece... easiest thing to do though it just go long on $SMH and get the best of both worlds 👍
I thi k they mean in terms of aubstancial growth. ASML will grow with ai and the infrastructure, but the reality is that the hardware side.. with ASML NVDA etc is all likely a short lived episode of ai.. currently it's basically brute forcing which is massively resource intensive for hardware,but like all new tech the innovations are coming and tend to snowball.. I would be utterly speechless if I 3-5 years we still required even 30% of the hardware we need now to train an ai to perform a task. So it's highly unlikely that we see a large movement in ASML. I own some, and am holding with no regrets just assuming it will see significant growth is likely flawed.
What do you think of the bear case NVDA lied about their guidance? Just saw The Maverick of Wall Street's video. Im bullish but he gives good bearish hot takes. One of his claims is that if NVDA was really having such an increase in demand TSM their supplier would have mentioned it in their guidance. Instead TSM guided for a decline in revenue. As did ASML and other companies in the sector.
AMD, NVDA, MSFT, aapl some?, ASML, MRVL, other stocks, SMCI and more. AMZN?
Buy SPY (or even VT). If AI is truly transformative, the increase in productivity will benefit most large companies. If not you keep up with the market. Trying to pick individual winners at this stage is just degenerate gambling - the obvious "shovel" choices (ASML, TSM, NVDA, AMD) are already all pricing in a huge AI bull run. _Maybe_ AMZN or GOOG have some upside left in them, on the back of in-house hardware designs, cloud services, and DeepMind, but I wouldn't bet on it. INTC is fucked in the short term but they might turn it around with a hail mary product like AMD did with Zen. Again I would not bet on it. At the other end of the spectrum, it's too early to pick from the AI-only companies like C3. Eventually ML systems will get super complex and probably proprietary, like cloud infrastructure did, and winners will emerge, but for now the technology is moving so fast there's no way to tell who will retain an advantage. Any large company or investor can put a team together with a couple million dollars and be less than a year or two behind.
I’d also look farther into the semiconductor supply chain. ASML and LAM for example.
You think ASML is a C? With their monopoly of photolthography....
You keep dodging the point: US diverting ASML to US only ends up in tsm hands. On US soil. In the tsm factory that US government is spending 1/3 of the CHIPS act on.
So your thesis is that US will big dick ASML into cutting off TSM and supporting American foundries? And moreover that an American foundry will pop up which has the most advanced node? INTC??? 😂 😂 😂 there are no American foundries. In the words of Logan Roy: “They are not serious people” The only real one that will be up and running is… Taiwan semiconductor , even if they somehow divert all the EUV machines to US soil, profits will still all be reaped by TSMC
Again, and again, it doesn't matter if Taiwan doesn't get invaded. Your investment is overvalued, by 100%. Which you saw in the previous crash. THAT is the value it should be, that has any basis. > Literally no way tsm amd and nvda throw their entire home country under the bus. Which again, doesn't matter. It will be the US that decided that. TSM isn't in control of the chips. They are COMPLETELY reliant on ASML. And we dutch are completely subject to the US, listening to their every whim.
So is that how they plan to generate $11bn this quarter? By selling $10bn in stock… Those earnings projections are fishy as hell in my opinion. Those kinds of gains are not being remotely reflected in the financials of other related companies like TSCM and ASML, not to mention AMD. If they miss even slightly, the price is going to crash hard and they’ll raise eyebrows at the SEC. Watch out for insider selling taking place. If it happens, do the same or short it before it’s too late.
SMH is an ETF that includes NVDA, AMD, TSM, INTC, ASML, etc.
Well okay this point may applies to TSM but not to ASML. But if China invades Taiwan we probably have other worries than our shares.
Let's rate their recommendations: * Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) - A+, effectively the owner of OpenAI, very good choice * Meta Platforms Inc. (META) - B-, Meta actually is low-key doing a ton of great AI work from a technical perspective, but it's not their business, and they are unlikely to profit off of the rise of AI * ASML Holding NV (ASML) - C, they're definitely a relevant company though I'm not sure that AI will propel their growth by any significant fashion * Micron Technology (MU) - C-, it's a tech company but not really relevant * IBM (IBM) - C-, same as above * Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSM) - B, they're extremely relevant for NVDA et. al. but again, AI will not supercharge their growth * Salesforce (CRM) - D, Salesforce might make use of AI effectively in the future to make huge gains in sales productivity, but it seems unlikely * Splunk (SPLK) - D-, this is not the way to invest in AI at all. The last two I would categorize as AI hallucination to be honest rather than a real recommendation
Why people not talking about ASML and their unique position to benefit from all this chip frenzy?
Good point, although IP of Foxconn is incomparable to that of TSM and ASML. But what I meant is that it might be hard to predict which of the industries will take off but the base layer remains predictable
AAPL. They are overlooked as a beneficiary of the recent advances in AI since AAPL is not an AI company, but they benefit greatly from LLMs devaluing much of the AI research that came before it. AAPL is still behind, but they aren't as behind as they used to be, and they don't have to work on cutting edge AI since they are all about making it work on their phone. They're going to release an LLM that runs on the iPhone soon, and beat everybody else at finding ways to incorporate AI into our daily lives. My AI plays are: AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, NVDA, PLTR, ASML, META in order of position size
There is a big difference here. Nearly anybody with a huge workforce can build a smartphone but there are very little companies which are able to build the newest chips. Thats why ASML and TSM are good bets for the future for sure. Just my opinion.
ASML, only company to Producer the Machines for the Chips needed to fuel All of this
Just curious: what day to day news event led you to sell ASML
Alphabet, ASML, BE Semiconductor Industries, LVMH and Arbor Realty Trust.
I bought ASML at 86 and sold at 92 in 2014/2015. It is now at 682. Two lessons I learned: \- Do not sell based on day to day news. Try to buy and hold as long as your thesis holds regardless of news/sentiment. \- Don't attach your past experiences of a stock to the stock. I could have bought back in the years after I sold, at almost anytime. But to me it was a failure that I sold at 92, I could not take the time to re-evaluate the stock and consider buying back in.
I've had it happen before. I know how it feels. I bought TSLA in 2019 in the $200s. This was pre-split, so would be somewhere between $13-20 today. I sold for $400, thought it was a smart trade. Then it went on the biggest rally ever, if I held it could have been 2000% to the peak, even with the TSLA sell-off it's still up 1000% from 2019. I took it as a lesson. "Can't change the past. I'm never going to sell good performers again. How am I ever going to have life changing money by selling stocks before it could potentially become life changing?" Now I'm holding NVDA which is up 600%+. While I understand very well that 963bn market cap makes the potential for future gains lower, I'm staying on the ride until the very end - after we see all the events unfold related to AI. I've already thought of the possible futures: 1. AI is actually hype. NVDA goes down 50%. My life doesn't change - I go to work to pay bills. 2. AI becomes a necessary tool for all of life, like smartphones. NVDA is the leading beneficiary. Life changing money - early retirement. 3. Same as 2 but NVDA is not the leading beneficiary. Other companies "win" the AI war. Well I'm holding other tech stocks so should still be fine, and I'm staying up to date with company releases so hopefully I won't miss whatever companies "win". Already have companies like ASML, AMD, MSFT Which I why 67% sell-offs don't bother me and why I don't take profits. If stocks go down or profits are small - it doesn't change my life - I'm still working. Only by holding these stocks all the way is there any life changing potential. Hope that makes sense.
Berkshire, Microsoft, Alphabet, ASML, Tencent
Or ASML, even better. They have 95% to 100% world wide market share, massive profits and no competitors. All chip manufacturers, from NVDA to AMD to Intel to Samsung to TSMC, buy they machines at ASML. All. No exceptions.
NVidia (with TSMC and ASML) just cut reticle calculation time from over a month to a day. Just sayin'...
Downvoted? Redditors even more clueless on tech than I thought. Dem apes better evolve fast or they're going to be real confused, real fast. We haven't even started reaping returns from the basic M.L. 101 that we've just got like right now tuesday. (Sorry, can't stand AI, we don't have AI, we've got ML.) Whatever, it's ramping up now and will accelerate further ramping up which will further accelerate the ramping, and so on. But I can give you good non-AI reasons why goes moon... NVDA, ASML, and TSMC have released libraries that cut reticle computation time by a factor of forty. Used to be over a month, now just a day. Absolutely massive for turnaround time on chip development. New DPX instruction set does the same thing for specific computational tasks, like lining up and matching gene sequences. That means all biotech is theirs, and there will be others too. And Omniverse is set to be the unified platform for manufacturing and engineering. All will be simulated from product design to simulating and building the manufacturing facilities, all virtually before laying down a single brick. In other words, NVidia is undervalued. I know sweet FA about financials, but I do know my tech. As for real AI... We'll reach that when we accept the fact that We are large language models. ;)
My biggest (and coincidentally most successful) positions are Amazon, Tencent, Nintendo, Spotify, ASML and Stoneco. Most recent positions are JD, Embracer, Paypal, DQ and Asos.
$RKLB $ORSTED $[VIE.PA](https://VIE.PA) $[ALV.DE](https://ALV.DE) $ASML.NV
ASML, MELI, CSU.TO, META, TOI.V. They’re the top performers out of my high conviction picks and I haven’t trimmed. Other high convictions are BN.TO, ATD.TO, ANET
TSM actually makes them tho. ASML makes the machines that TSM uses.
ANSS - one of the leading sim companies on the planet, they provide tools for testing AI algos, software and training.. etc ASML - They are the only ones who make the machines that tsm uses to print everybodies chips. TSM - I mean, self explanatory right? AYX - data analytics & tools for ai learning and development MSFT- cloud, ai, their hololens and push to create virtual offices with the benefits of work from home with the benefits of a collaborative workplace where workers interact with each other.. if they pull it off.. is going to revolutionize the world again.. and imo cause a shift away from big expensive cities back to smaller towns.. if they can pull it off.. but just their infrastructure, tools, ease of integratijn for other companies.. and ai on their own.. MSFT is a really smart play. Google - one of the most prtsnt factors in ai is the data pools you use to train it, and google has the most data about everything and everyone. I genuinely feel like they are rudderless and directionless and are just kind of pathetically flailing about for the last 5-6 years, so I'm not in it.. but they make boatloads of money, are jng loud, and they have unimaginable data.. which makes them a huge player. Meta - I know this one will shock people,but it's true. They are still early but their push I to custom chip manufacturing for ai integration coupled with their also absolutely staggering amount of collected information on how humans interact with each other will likely be valuable moving forward with ai.. especially when the goal is to sell products direct to consumers. They also make boatloads of cash normally and that doesn't hurt. Amazon - also in cloud, also in ai, but like google I feel like they are flailing around.. unfocused, and as such losing a lot of money and outting out mediocre to failed products.. for that reason I'm not in.. but that's not to say they can't, nor that they are a bad investment. They are just not for me. That's kinda my plays with AI I won't see any 10-50 baggers, but I think they will do alright moving forward.
Bullish on TSM and ASML?
I sold ASML 695c for $7 on Thursday. I missed out on $90k. I can’t breathe.
Intel missing out on buying EUV machines is one of those crazy investment decisions that absolutely hurts. If I remember correctly they were one of the biggest original investors in the tech but when ASML was failing to execute they pulled back, and now TSMC owns like all of them. One thing people who don't know much about the industry don't understand is that the tool suppliers like ASML are kingmakers, but it is in their best interest for there to be competition. It would hugely hurt ASML's bottom line if INTC fails because then TSMC isn't going to be willing to pay as much money for their tools. Lack of EUV has been hurting INTC but I have no doubt that ASML is going to do everything in their power they can legally do to make sure that they get back on par with TSMC. It's a longer term outlook but I'm fully expecting INTC to swing back up over the next 5 years.
And when they roll that out, they’ll still be using ASML’s equipment
ASML riding on the waves of AI. Everyone who needs small chips has to go through them. Love it.
TSMC is already putting down deeper roots on US soil. They keep saying the upcoming US facilities WON’T be producing the cutting edge chips, but anyone with half a brain cell knows if China/Taiwan kicks off, it won’t be a stretch to either transfer all the advanced machines to US fabs or just ship all the engineers from Taiwan to the US with whatever R&D data they have, and just continuing it on US soil as Taiwan gets raided. The other half of the equation is ASML in the Netherlands. I wouldn’t be surprised if sanctions get tightened on China is they do go through with hitting Taiwan, doubt China will do much without the actual litho machine makers (ASML) and the consumable items used during the lithography process (Japan) all cutting ties.
Jensen is a master of lies & hype. Just look at his guidance last year same quarter & how they shat the bed in earnings. TSM & ASML have both said the demand is softening. Plus, you can't replace CPUs with GPUs & not all servers need GPUs, if you want to train models, sure or oversell servers to idiots!
ASML is the only company that makes the (EUV) machines that makes these advanced chips, and they hold IP on the fab process.
There is so much to NVDA that average redditors aren’t seeing. But I would absolutely hedge with other companies. ASML and AMD already got a bump from this: they’re all apart of the tech revolution happening right now. Would I buy them now? No, but this tech reaches farther than most people know, and the competition will be lucrative too.
Statisticaly, trying to time the markets almost always leads to losses. If your a long term investor (unless your underlying thesis for buying these stocks has changed) then holding is usually the correct course. Personally, I own TSM, ASML, NVDA and AMD. I've owned these for 3 years and only plan on adding to these positions for the next 5.
Today is such a weird day. All my stocks that are even remotely AI related are soaring (AMD, ASML, GOOGL, MSFT, TSM) while almost everything else is getting crushed. VTI and VOO which are usually highly correlated are separated by like 20 basis points.
AMD and Intel’s focus was on CPUs. Nvidia was a fringe GPU focused company, mainly for graphics. GPUs are better for crypto and LLMs turns out. It’s a different architecture. All can catch up but it will take time. I wonder if you need new lithography if switching from cpu to gpu manufacturing. Cause they would be a boon for ASML
This is true of other vendors as well. ASML isn't the only company with 100% market share for certain processes in semiconductor manufacturing they are just the most well known. The whole thing is a very complex and interconnected global supply chain.