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Tesla Thesis, price targets & 50k swing options trade
Tesla Thesis, price targets & 50k swing options trade
5x bagger. Missted a 7x bag. Is this the way of r/options or should I save this from wallstreetbets?
Why I'm getting Tesla Puts, A Deep Dive into Earnings (A Must Read)
A Deep Dive into Tesla's Earnings (A Must Read)
Is China set for "finally" bottom and an epic rally?
A Lamborghini-Style EV: BYD Goes Upmarket to Outmaneuver Tesla
NIO - All time low - Time to jump in balls deep ?
Apple and Tesla may no longer be ‘safe investments’ as China’s troubles grow
Chinese electric vehicle company BYD in talks for potential acquisition of lithium producer in Brazil -Sigma Lithium, for a supply agreement
Want to invest in BYD through and ADR, but hear investing in the Chinese Market is risky?
BYD is the Alibaba of cars and it will have a similar faith
BYD Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker. Why is BYD's stock trading so low?
BYD Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker. Why is BYD's stock trading so low?
VinFast: from +320% to -86% in 2 months. What can we learn?
BYD electric pickup truck patent leaked, revealing new EV expected by the end of 2023
Premarket Moves: Tesla Dips on Deliveries, Disney Gains as Peltz Seeks Change
BYD, derided by Elon Musk, gives Tesla a run for its money
Rivian Down 9% as EV Maker Announces $1.5B Convertible Bond Sale
Are GM , Ford kinda Nokia / Blockbuster of Auto industries?
BYD - thoughts and mockery please
VinFast is now worth $190B, making it the 3rd most valuable automaker in the world
EV maker BYD buys Jabil's China manufacturing business for $2.2 billion
How is Vinfast generating this much Market cap? It's unreal
Tesla price cut comes as BYD calls for global EV domination
Tesla's China-made EV sales slide in July from June as BYD stretches lead
Check out this battery pack teardown comparison of TSLA and BYD - One more reason to be a $TSLA Bull
Tesla vs BYD battery pack comparison - just one more reason to be a $TSLA bull
Seen an article talking about the electric boat space, anyone have some insights?
China's Xpeng sees sales turnaround in second half with new EV mode
Shook my eighth ball, telepathically has indicated to me NIO will be out of business soon.
Tesla ($TSLA) vs.Boyd Gaming Corporation ($BYD) 2023: EV rivals are frenemies now; $TSLA stock halts slide as BYD nears buy point
Tesla ($TSLA) stock vs. BYD ($BYDDY) stock: Tesla tries to halt the slide; China's EV Giant Races Into the Buy Area
BYD stock up after earnings. Tesla EV price war is hurting it more than its rivals.
What are the most undervalued commodities in 2023?
Tesla margins in focus as EV price war kicks into high gear
Tesla’s shares are up over 70% this year. One market pro is bullish — but another isn’t convinced
Tesla’s shares are up over 70% this year. One market pro is bullish — but another isn’t convinced
Alibaba hands parched dealmakers a glass half-full
European shares of Deutsche Bank extended its share price decline to 10%; Deutsche Bank's U.S. shares fell more than 6% in the pre-market.
Will Tesla go up again (II): Tesla's competitive advantage
Will Tesla go up (a): a comprehensive understanding of Tesla
The Treasury Department says. Did we offend you?
The 10 longest-held stocks in Berkshire Hathaway's portfolio
China EV demand surged… NIO, XPEV and Tesla
Even the best investors in the world make mistakes, Charles Munger " investment in Alibaba was one of the worst mistakes I ever made.”
Berkshire Hathaway's Remaining Stake in Chinese EV Maker BYD Worth $3.9 Billion Despite Sell-Offs
Berkshire Hathaway's Remaining Stake in Chinese EV Maker BYD Worth $3.9 Billion Despite Sell-Offs
Charlie Munger says BYD is so far ahead of Tesla in China ‘it’s almost ridiculous’
Charlie Munger says BYD is so far ahead of Tesla in China it’s almost ridiculous
Tesla Model Y (its most popular model in China) is getting absolutely hammered by BYD.
FYI, Berkshire Hathaway sold more shares of BYD - HKEX filing
why haven't "ted and todd" and Charlie munger bought Tesla and is this a red flag for any investors?
Good article why Tesla, Xpev, BYD, NiO, Li will fly
BYD Company sales slump 36% in January due to Chinese New Year (OTCMKTS:BYDDF)
Warren Buffett Backed Chinese EV Player BYD Sees Strong Jump In 2022 Profits
BYD and Tesla Top. XPENG just sold 1200 vehicle in two weeks.. in last two
Tesla gross margin, better than expected, is the key driver of Tesla's current +75% rally in the first 3 weeks of 2023
Thoughts on Microvast, Potential US Domestic Battery Manufacturing leader
US, Japan and Netherland - Reached deal not to export CHIP to CHINA. What will be impact on TESLA, XPEV, LI, NIO, BYD & other car companies
US, Japan and Netherland - Reached deal not to supply CHIP to CHINA. What will be impact on XPEV, LI, NIO, BYD and TESLA (in China)
Tesla / BYD/ NIO/ XPENG/LI - People are losing jobs, recession predicted by Musk, Things are slow
Tesla/Enphase Etc: Diamonds in plain site
Tesla cuts prices in U.S., Germany in pivot to drive sales
BYD Stock Recovers After Warren Buffett Cuts Stake Again
Tesla cuts prices in China, other Asian markets as sales falter
Tesla Sales in China Slump as Competition Intensifies. China accounts for roughly 40 percent of Tesla’s sales but homegrown Chinese automaker BYD is gaining on its American competition.
Tesla Stock Vs. BYD Stock: Tesla Concerns Grow As BYD Unveils Super-Premium Brand, Models
BYD Overcomes Tesla to Become World's Largest EV Maker
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One thing that really stands out is that [Tesla](https://www.stockcounterparts.com/companies/tesla)'s China sales in 2025 were basically unchanged from 2024. That feels pretty telling given how brutal competition has become. BYD is pushing hard across the board with price, performance, and charging speed, and it is raising the bar for everyone. Tesla still looks like the main non-Chinese EV company that can compete seriously in that environment, while the German brands are improving, just from a lower base.
What’s your DD? I’m asking out of genuine interest, not trying to be a prick. I’m sure Tesla will eat shit eventually but I don’t see how rivian will have much more growth. Car companies aren’t usually highly valued. They make a good luxury car but most of the EV demand seems to be at the budget level. Plus there so much competition in the EV space, and demand for high end EVs isn’t something I’d expect to grow much (opposed to the high demand for cheap cars like BYD). A Porsche Taycan depreciates like crazy, just for example.
I live in a comfortable neighborhood and same, lots of rivians. Way more than teslas. They’re a bit expensive for what you get but they’re also improving rapidly. Considering the baggage surrounding teslas image and that no one wants EV versions of ice cars, rivian will probably do well as a car company. But as far as financials, I’m more skeptical. Lots of competition in the EV space, and demand growth seems to be on the budget end (BYD, etc.) Plus car companies aren’t usually well performing stocks. Tesla is a special case, emphasis on special.
$TSLA will be at interstellar💫 levels by the end of April. Melon🍉 is just playing his 420-dimensional chess♟ and everyone that's bearish🐻 is stuck in their plain old X, Y, and Z Cartesian coordinate system. We're about to see the new Giga Caracas factory🏭 cranking out Cybertrucks faster than a Starship rocket could launch your mom into geosynchronous orbit🚀🚀. ALSO rumor has it battery day 🔋 in June is going to unveil a new plaid edition LiPo powered dildo that charges⚡ in 69 seconds AND comes with FSD (Full Self Dildo'ing) 🍆 and Cheetah mode. PLUS unlike companies in Gyna...cough cough BYD(eez nuts) 🥜...Easy E-Muskrat knows best how to run a capitalist business (aka cook the books 👨🍳📚).
Hyundai? BYD? Polestar? Kia? All building better EVs than Elon who has to sell his dumpsters to ICE and the cops
Status symbol. But look into BYD. These are luxury EVs that outperform Teslas by every metric and are a fraction the price.
BYD is the alibaba of EV stocks. IYKYK
That's just it, Tesla is not "at the front of it", neither in self driving software, nor in EV or batteries. That's why sales are not growing. Americans are clueless because they've never seen a BYD or a Li Auto, but you can still go over their financials to see how the market views each brand. Tesla's revenue dropped by -2% between 2023 and 2025 (whole fiscal years). During the same period, BYD's revenue and profits increased by +33%, and that's without the US market, where Tesla is legally/politically protected against Chinese competition. Tesla now offers inferior products while being once first-to-market. Thinking they'll lead in industries where they don't even have a product yet, while others are already in production (and use) is crazy.
BYD. Solid and stylish cars, with good tech, but they're more than that. Originally a battery company, and still strong in batteries. Not the top battery company in non-car power storage but still pretty big. Well managed too. They didn't try to move from battery production to cars on their own. They bought a company that was already producing cars. Berkshire Hathaway owned 10% of it for over 20 years, so that's some great management input built into the DNA. Building factories outside China; sells more electric cars than any other company. Also doing alright in buses, so likely well-positioned for growth in freight vehicles. Making solid strides in 5 and 10-minute charging as well, which will be important in some markets. All that USA-centric bafflegab about remotely shutting cars off is just hogwash. China believes in trading and commerce. As if they would clobber a market by shutting cars off. Hell, GM invented that capability! Listening to you? Tracking your movements? As if USA companies are not capable of all this and more. What an utter joke. Anyway, they're selling millions of cars all over the world, just not in that 4% of the market. Who cares. For heavens sake, they run their own self-owned car transport vessels. Seems they kinda know what they're doing.
Off the top of my head. Chinese EV: NIO, XPEV, Li. BYD is listed in foreign markets; pink sheets in the US. Lithium: SQM, ALB. LAC is speculative. Chinese tech EV: PONY, WRD. Battery tech: QS.
The Chinese cars also like to implode on themselves a lot despite what some of the tankies wanna believe. As good as BYD may be there are 200 other Chinese car makers that are awful and they're all flooding foreign markets with overproduction. China in general is never invest in, as a westerner, they have every reason to screw us over. No trust.
BYD sells a lot of EVs all over the world
Tesla is currently valued at more than Toyota, Ford, GM, VW, Honda and BYD combined. It is beyond ridiculous. The usual answer the fanboys give is "It's not a car company, it's a tech company!" What tech? * Vaporware robots being pitched as household retail items, as if anyone is going to pay $40K+ for something to do the dishes and laundry (neither of which is realistic anytime soon anyway) My brother works for a real robotics company (actual commercial sales) and he always points out one simple fact: who is gonna buy a robot that could tip over and crush your toddler? * Grok AI? Currently has only a tiny market share, and is facing huge legal issues in Europe. * Its batteries? Chinese companies are setting the standards in that field.
BYD, MAXN, Oersted and everything else active in renewables to the moon. This is a wake up call that the world has to learn to reduce CO2 emissions - which is interestingly possible. 20% off? Some people ween, as they always do. Drive electric, charge it solar, thats it.
I genuinely don't understand why people think Tesla has a future. Trump set tariffs on Canada, so Canada is trading with China more, they are planning on importing super nice and cheap EVs from China, companies like BYD. Once those cars start crossing the border, American EV companies are cooked.
Like anybody has a choice - calls on BYD
Renewables will power AI. New battery tech will give better and cheaper storage and fix the intermittence issues, CATL and BYD are already making moves to enter the market full time. That’s my bet.
Its the same price than it was in 2021 too, idk, it seems that with oil heading towards vahala, BYD should be more valued given their products.
BYD stock (1211) numbers are insane, somebody has any reasonable explanation why its so beat up?
Let’s try this again without commentary to avoid tripping the censorship filter: > I Drove The BYD Seagull. This $8,000 Chinese EV Is Scary Good https://insideevs.com/reviews/769113/byd-seagull-good-video-drive/ > BYD’s 9-Minute Charge Could Change EVs Forever https://www.autoblog.com/news/byds-9-minute-charge-could-change-evs-forever > BYD's EVs are unlikely to show up in the US anytime soon. Here's why. https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/shopping/new-cars/2026/01/23/byd-cars-us-chinese-ev-canada/88318584007/
Well if regulations are relaxed, BYD can sell cars here and we can invest in it.
Have you heard of BYD and other manufacturers, retard? Some of y'all truly live in a bubble and it shows.
Ya he went big, dumb, and expensive while BYD smoked him on better tech and cheaper tech. Don't do drugs kids
Grenergy acquires 2.6 GWh of batteries from BYD Energy Storage for Central Oasis https://grenergy.eu/grenergy-acquires-2-6-gwh-of-batteries-from-byd-energy-storage-for-central-oasis/ byd getting marketshare in energy storage from european companies
At least MSFT produces products worth a damn. TSLA only survives due to trickery to ban far superior EVs like BYD.
BYD report seems to be out, but corrupted for me. Thanks for the analysis, made me want to dig deeper again for investing! Reference: [https://www.bydglobal.com/cn/en/BYD\_ENInvestor/InvestorAnnals\_mob.html](https://www.bydglobal.com/cn/en/BYD_ENInvestor/InvestorAnnals_mob.html)
Really appreciate the deep dive this week it highlights how different each story is under the China tech label One thing that has helped me when tracking multiple companies and segments is visual mapping I use Runable to create simple dashboards comparing revenues margins growth rates and strategic initiatives across companies Seeing Tencent Alibaba Xiaomi Meituan and BYD side by side makes it clear which are compounders which are in investment cycles and which are scaling into new markets It also helps me quickly spot trends like EV ramp ups overseas or cloud revenue growth without getting lost in spreadsheets For anyone following multiple sectors within a region I recommend trying a visual tool like Runable to organize insights and make comparison easier
Great points made.. I've been loading on NIO (not mentioned) and BYD... I've traveled SEA region over the past 2 years and each trip..im seeing more and more them.. they are priced very, very aggressively for global domination..and with the oil prices especially in the region.. This war will be the lynch-pin for their rise
The chinese are releasing their own gpu (lisuan) next june they say it outperforms rtx 4060 .. not bad for building first gpu from scratch This can be the next BYD and could nvidia
I'm only long BYD out of this list. If international doesn't carry, this thing will stay surpressed for even longer and the downside likely continues. Price action has been bullish probably in anticipation of annual report. What's your fixation with A shares? If your thesis or tilt is in tech, why care whether it has A shares or not? Help me understand this. Also, you're looking at dumbed down ETFs tailor made for US audiences, don't expect highly refined methodology in stockpicking for these funds, just slapping a China QQQ branding and putting it up on shelves.
BYD and other Chinese EV car makers are reporting record uptick in sales.
This. Chinese cars eg BYD, are opening dealerships up here by years end, and their EVs are WAY cheaper than anything American or European. I've yet to drive one or even see one but based on the YouTube reviews, they are definitely going to give the legacy brands a run for their money.
BYD has better EVs SpaceX makes about $10-20B annually without growing much and the market cap will be $1.5T.
Tesla is getting wrecked anyway. BYD eating their lunch in Asia. Anti nazi and anti American sentiment in Europe, and no more EV tax credits in the US
My dad never went to high school, invested his life savings in SPY and that Chinese company BYD in 2020. He bought Boyd Gaming by mistake and is up like 230%
I test drove the BYD Chinese EV car and let me tell you - it is dope for $35K
You can criticise Musk. I freely admit he has many flaws. Can you admit that he also does amazing things? This is what I meant by derangement. Pure hatred. Can not seperate your hatred with reality. Everything he touches has to be shit. Doesn’t matter how much they are valued at. Doesn’t matter how many times he’s repeatedly created value at different companies. Me and my Reddit buddies know better and are smarter than him. If you said Google is a better company, sure. BYD is better?, that’s pushing it but also has a case. But your saying Tesla and SpaceX are shit. Deranged.
I hope so, but realistically it will take a lot longer than a year. The first part will bring on more remote areas of oil and gas that are to expensive to bother now. Here in Bangkok we currently have fuel shortages in the rural areas with some some taxi drivers refusing to take people on longer trips. However the government has done some simple things like eliminating tariffs on EVs so there are quite a few BYD, GWM and Tesla cars. I rode in a BYD, beautiful car, not as good as a Tesla but cheaper. If they were allowed in the USA they would be a hot seller. So at least for the short term, Oil Service suppliers and international EV with a Chinese base will likely be the big winners.
What? He doesn’t have to meet my ideals for me to invest money in his company? What proof? They have a cult following that’s it. It’s not because they make better products. SpaceX got the govt contracts because he agreed to hire the person making that decision to SpaceX after they awarded the grants. They didn’t win it on merit. Tesla has 350 patent families. BYD has 25,000. Tesla hasn’t innovated shit, what they did to become popular was to make EV’s exciting, which was done before Musk joined. That was in the companies blueprint since inception.
Maybe the war will kick off a more massive market correction in the sense of a huge capital shift. Away from the old fossil fuel bullshit industries, more to renewable energy and other future technologies. BYD showrooms are apparently bustling. Then at least something really good would come out of it.
I meant stocks. Obvious answers are oil companies but that might be short term. People’s behaviors will change, which is more long term. So will EV makers like BYD gain a lot? China is energy dependent and their build out of charging infrastructure as well as battery tech were already accelerating. This geopolitical chaos may further fuel the fire.
At this rate you can only afford an BYD
Careful you don't get rimmed... neither has particularly sexy financials. If it has to be one of the two, BYD hands-down. Nios lineup is lackluster sind 2023.
**> then the us should use coal and nat gas for heating and electricity.** 100% shouldn't. They should use \*the cheapest option\*. Which is currently... solar. It's literally cheaper than natural gas right now -- and getting cheaper every year. Utility scale solar costs \~38-78/MWh, as compared to an average of \~48-109 per nat gas (depending location). Also far cleaner and it also lasts longer. The US has perverse incentives keeping oil alive. **> keeping oil for transportation only.** This does make sense for internal combustion engines -- however the priority should really be moving over to EVs. They're cheaper (and more efficient) at scale. China is really winning the race there. Look at BYD - they are insanely good cars. Starting at less than $10k USD, ie: the Seagull. BYD seagull: 400km range, 5 door, 4 seat, 30 minute charge time. Designed for cities. That is their cheapest option. They have options that have over 950km (550mile) ranges for \~40k usd. The US literally cannot compete. Fords CEO bought one and used it for a month. He went on record saying he loves it, didn't want to go back to a ford and the us is "very far behind". **> allow nuclear** Nuclear isn't very efficient tho. It's quite costly (and there are other risks involved). It's one of the most expensive forms of energy. **> give tax breaks for solar and wind** They don't even need to do that. Solar is literally cheaper than natural gas right now -- and getting cheaper every year. **> steal their patents when they get better** China is already far ahead. See above - it's cheaper.
Just read BYD dealers in Asia are packed with people wanting to move away from ICE. Iran is allowing Chinese, Indian and now Japanese tankers to pass through Hormuz. Expect Koreans to do the same. Saudis will be the saviours for Europe but wondering is there is a gap in the products that shipped via Hormuz It is not just China winning, but winning easily as the US global soft power has disappeared within a year - who the fuck thought this will happen.
First time I saw Tesla, I was like “what kind of car is that? Esp the cybertruck hahaha. If I was a millionaire I will never buy Tesla. First time I saw BYD, I said amazing design. Then O realized it was a chinese car but there are way too many BYD here in our country, dont see Tesla evwn one.
BYD Showrooms Are Bustling Across Asia After Iran Oil Shock
I like Alibaba and Bidu. Not touch BYD lol
BYD and Alibaba are cheap. I also hold Zijin gold. Obviously I am down with all of them.
NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang today: “The Chat-GPT moment for self-driving cars has arrived." NVIDIA announced that they’re now expanding their self-driving partnership to BYD, Nissan, Hyundai, and Geely. Their automotive partners: • GM • Toyota • Mercedes-Benz • Jaguar Land Rover • Volvo • Rivian • Hyundai • BYD • Geely • XPENG • Polestar • NIO • Lucid • Li Auto • Nissan • Isuzu • Zeekr • Xiaomi • Stellantis Additionally, NVIDIA and Uber are partnering to launch a global network of Level 4 autonomous robotaxis, beginning in LA and San Francisco in early 2027 before expanding to 28 cities by 2028.
Nvidia also announced an expansion of its autonomous driving business, including the addition of four new partners for Nvidia’s robotaxi computing system—India’s BYD, China’s Geely Auto, Hyundai and Nissan. Using Nvidia’s chips and simulation models, the auto manufacturers are expected to significantly increase the number of autonomous ride-share vehicles on the road, Huang said.
You say EVs are competing, yet almost all major car companies have not been profitable making the shift to EV and are taking major losses on pure EV models. A few examples don’t make the rule. Not all cars are Tesla or BYD. If only two companies can produce those options, it furthers my point any shift is a decade away.
Everything in my trading port except miners is green right now. Bloody BYD decided to show up and gain about 7.5 %. I guess that means the war will end soon and everything is going to crash afterwards.
There's no domestic NZ car manufacturing, our economy has never progressed beyond colonial raw resource export and basic processing. I didn't test drive a BYD, so I can only comment on the look, and I'm looking for a city car to get me to and from work and quick trips around the city, but I did take a Dong Feng box out and it's a really good car for the price. It has loads of really high tier features like automatic parking, motorway self drive all-around cameras (not that you need them on such a small car) vehicle to appliance, both apple and Android interface for your smart phone and more. BYD seems to be very popular there's a lot of them in the road and there's a BYD shark that parks in our work car park it looks like it can easily compete with the Ford ranger that I'm currently borrowing. But they're a bit too big for me and the Atto1 which is the type I'm looking at was not styled to my taste. The Chinese brands all fall down on interior design they're like European cars and don't have any cup holders, I currently have a BMW 3 series and it has awful cup holders too so I'm used to it. But my companion pointed out that they only had 2 cup holders on the floor by your feet. And I wasn't a big fan of the quilted fabric dashboard. The Chinese have really gotten into the electric car segment they've got the whole range from the sport sedan to the small hatchback to the dick compensation ute and even people movers and vans. The other car manufacturers are going to have to up their game to compete. China doesn't have the name brands yet and people are wary of them because they lack that pedigree but the prices features warranty and financing are out of this world. $0 down and 0% interest on a brand new box for $26k is an unbelievably attractive deal and there's 8 years traction battery warranty. It's the same sort of deals Mitsubishi was giving when their reputation was on the floor and they were building it back up. I think once makers like Dong Feng and Xpeng have made a name for themselves on the level of Toyota and Nissan the prices will go up and deals won't be so generous but right now if you want a new car I think Chinese is the way to go.
Same here in the states in regards to Japanese secondary market. That's great you guys have so much competition. Is there a domestic new Zealand brand? Also, what's your opinion of BYD's, etc
My car broke down last week so I went to shop for a new one during the weekend and the electric car dealers were jam packed. Dongfeng and BYD were both swarmed with people looking at EVs and Toyota and Nissan who were right next door to those dealers were ghost towns.
Buy BYD if you can?? That trade deal with Canada will prescious.
I am typing this from Bangkok. So I very much know there are many different incredible EVs from China. But the biggest and most successful is BYD. I have three Thai friends here with BYDs. One a Dolphin another a Seal the last a new Sealion. The new Sealions are pure EVs now and no longer hybrids. They are just incredible cars. I personally have a Model Y in the states and the BYD are far nicer cars in comparison.
man, tsla is wild right now. those daily swings are crazy! i’m usually in it for the short-term plays 'cause the volatility just screams "trade me!" lol. but with BYD overtaking in deliveries, it definitely adds some pressure. plus, with musk focusing on the robot stuff, it feels like he's trying to shift the narrative. honestly, i think it’s gonna be a bumpy ride for a bit. what do you think? is the long-term story still solid?
Yea I'll just never talk again here. I forgot it's pointless unless you're looking for validation in an echo chamber. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-15231019/Chinese-cars-safety-cheap-EV-crumpled-crash-tests.html I know the BYD passed. They make good cars. Do you know how many Chinese auto manufacturers there are? It's way more than just BYD to give you a hint. I was saying the majority of Chinese cars don't pass. If you were to grab any random sample of domestic made cars in China, that'd be my gamble. So what is NOT true huh? Why is this NOT possible. Why do you NOT believe factual data being presented to you? Are you ignorant?
Yea I'll just never talk again here. I forgot it's pointless unless you're looking for validation in an echo chamber. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-15231019/Chinese-cars-safety-cheap-EV-crumpled-crash-tests.html I know the BYD passed. They make good cars. Do you know how many Chinese auto manufacturers there are? It's way more than just BYD to give you a hint. I was saying the majority of Chinese cars don't pass. If you were to grab any random sample of domestic made cars in China, that'd be my gamble.
You're allowed to your opinion, but even objective measures exist and it's behind in all of those. Less efficient, slower to charge, less spacious, slower to accelerate, fewer features and on and on. The Seal is probably BYD's least competitive offering.
So BYD made $3.1B in profits on 4.6 million car sales, with almost all of those profits coming from their gas cars. Tesla made 20% more profits on 1/3 of the number of cars sold. BYD does not profit on their EV sales. But sure, BYD is the stronger company.
Had not really looked at the two right together. They are very similar. BYD has more revenue with over $100 billion compared to Tesla with $95 billion. Profits are also similar. $3.1B USD for BYD versus $3.8B USD for Tesla. But they do have one drastic difference. One is growing an the other is in a multi year decline with no end in site.
Sounds like what you want is a BYD. They have far nicer interiors compared to Tesla.
> Chinese EV's are the safety standards are not what you'd expect and cars turn what resembles crumpled tin foil after certain really bad accidents, you can look that up if you want. This is NOT true or anything close to being true. "The BYD Seal has earned a 5-star safety rating from both Euro NCAP " "The BYD Sealion 7 (2025 model) has earned a maximum 5-star rating from both Euro NCAP and ANCAP. " "The BYD Tang holds a 5-star safety rating from Euro NCAP (2023), highlighting its strong performance in both crash tests and active safety systems. "
You must have some very dated info. In terms of pure EVs BYD outsells Tesla. They do it even though BYD is not even allowed to sell in the US while Tesla is allowed to sell in US and China. BYD sold 2.26 million PURE Evs in 2025. They sold over 4 million vehicles when you include hybrids. Tesla sold 1.63 million. But also realize Tesla sales are declining while BYD sales continue to grow quickly.
The second BYD can be sold in the USA, it’s game over for every other car maker.
Why does the windshield of my Chinese EV look like ——————————————- Puts on NIO LI BYD
BYD stole from Tesla? I’m sure they may have taken a few things but that is the Chinese way. Either way BYD has become a critical supplier of its LFP battery to Tesla. Elon know how this works. You want to sell to the Chinese market, get ready to do joint ventures with Chinese companies and use Chinese suppliers.
>Interesting breakdown, BYD’s tech edge is compelling, but the structural and seasonal sales factors show why it’s worth investigating rather than assuming a guaranteed win. I can always tell someone used AI when "compelling" is used in a casual replying context lol. All AI-written replies on social media formats sound and structure the same and use the same words over and over. Summarizing the original post without actually saying or adding anything substantial. It's all over twitter as well. Only thing you're missing is a single em dash. The AI even managed to squeeze in a form of "it's not A, it's B" at the end. Dead internet fucking sucks.
Have you driven a BYD? They are pretty good cars lol, Europe and South America seem to be doing fine with them. Agree there are many blatant HR violations going on, but lets not pretend that's why or that the US cares
Interesting breakdown, BYD’s tech edge is compelling, but the structural and seasonal sales factors show why it’s worth investigating rather than assuming a guaranteed win.
Even if oil was $250 a barrel you still lose more money buying an EV due to depreciation. Something BYD learned only recently.
dude TSLA is always the volatility play that teaches the hardest lessons. Elon moves and the market swings 3-5% on his tweets but the fundamentals are what matter long term. that BYD comparison is real
>I live in China and it's pretty damn annoying when I see a Xiao Mi or BYD that is about the same size as the Model 3. Why is that annoying?
I live in China and it's pretty damn annoying when I see a Xiao Mi or BYD that is about the same size as the Model 3. Even more annoying when I see the Buick Vellite or compact Chevy EV's. The Buick is one that probably should be sold in America. Even if it was under a Chevy nameplate and made in Mexico it would deeply undercut Tesla.
Crazy the market is still treating Tesla like it's 2015. Tsla volatility is entertainment for daytraders, but for people actually trying to build wealth, it's mostly noise. The real story is BYD eating their lunch in EV deliveries. That's way more signal than Elon's latest tweet
BYD sells a lot cheap cars in China
That includes Hybrids. Commenter is right. When you just compare pure EV's, Tesla is selling roughly the same, maybe more. If you exclude the tiny golf carts for under $12k BYD makes that's in a market Tesla doesn't compete it, Tesla dominates. Head to head, in "full size" luxury market, BYD can't hold a candle to Tesla's sales.
They are outselling Tesla at a price category that Tesla is not in. Their average is like 18 grand, and you can buy one for 12 grand. Tesla is selling for 35 grand. No Chinese is that stupid to pay 35 grand for a BYD.
The article literally shows BYD outselling Tesla. Worldwide. So I highly doubt Tesla is outselling them in China.
Except that’s… not happening?? “BYD is the dominant leader in China's New Energy Vehicle (NEV) market, significantly outselling Tesla by volume as of early 2026. In 2025, BYD solidified its position with over 3.17 million NEV sales (24.1% market share), largely driven by a diverse, lower-priced lineup. While Tesla's Model Y remains a top competitor, its 2025 China sales were over 626,000 units, placing it behind BYD in the domestic market.”
BYD sales in China are about 5 times higher than Tesla’s and continuing to grow in China (as well as elsewhere)
If Chinese people are buying Tesla over BYD. You think you know more than them?
Why would I buy a Tesla over a BYD or similar these days.
I'm invested in BYD, XPeng, as well as Geely. The latter two have performed better overall. And having personally been in cars from all three companies as well as NIO, I'd say that XPeng and Geely are going to win in the end. BYD is really just an EV Honda/Toyota. Pretty meh tier.
Is it still a game? I wish I could by BYD stocks
Chinese EV leader BYD unveiled “FLASH Charging Technology” that can take an EV from 10% charge to 70% charge in five minutes. Most of Tesla’s charging infrastructure can deliver up to 200 miles of range in about 15 minutes.
Tesla is popular because the EV it self is amazing and the best value for your money - see how many other companies are pulling out of US sales? Tesla also makes some of if not the most profit per car BYD is nice but it’s propped up by the Chinese government funding it and if they didn’t have that constant funding, they would be going under ASAP. They also sell very cheap cars because they’re able to due to government funding, I’m not against it. I’d rather have people buying more EVS than gas cars anyway. But my original point remains factual, the Tesla model. Hawaii was the best selling EV worldwide. I believe the last 5 years in a row? Maybe 4..
Really you think it sells better than BYD. Lmao Tesla is only still relevant cus of geo politics
TSLA? BYD will be the big winner here. Chinese EVs will flood the markets (except the US)
Very glad I bout BYD and Xiaomi right before the oil squeeze.