BYD

Spiritual-Bus1813

Ah yes, here we go with the BYD glazing 🤣 Least obvious bot

onlyone_c

BYD is both double the quality and half the price

Front_Photograph_708

The price per chip per performance is different NVIDIA margin is high because the high price and good management but the Chinese want the same performance cheaper and it is either NVIDIA lower prices/make the products better and keep the same margins or stick with the same strategy and rely on brand recognition On BYD ZEEKER XPENG NIO and more case they are shifting from Nvidia chips Axelera is a new player in field that in my opinion make better chips but the use cases are a bit different they don't have what nvidia give you in big servers but for personal/small companies they offer better deal for now NVIDIA had 3 years to enjoy without any big competition and this is the end of it

Significant-Drawer95

100% BYD. No cash left at all! 300 USD in my account. Future will tell...

UpstairsMail3321

BYD - Trump said he wants no more vehicles to be made in Canada. If that’s the case then Canada should lift its 100% tariffs on Chinese cars and manufacture them in the soon-to-be-closed Canadian factories.

LingonberryNo6327

They can only be disconnected for so long. For instance, Tesla has lost a metric fuck ton of sales worldwide. BYD is entering so many markets and now Canadians are asking for the government to allow them there too. Yet Tesla stocks have been up lately.... that can't last. It won't either.

AstroBullivant

BYD’s debt is much greater than you report. It’s probably about 45 billion. https://www.tipranks.com/news/byd-under-spotlight-for-hiding-debt-via-supply-chain-financing#:~:text=GMT%20Raises%20Concerns%20over%20BYD's,cash%20flow%2C%20and%20liquidity%20risk. https://fortune.com/2025/06/08/byd-ev-industry-competition-price-cuts-weak-demand-overcapacity/

AstroBullivant

BYD has adopted a unique(for a car company) marketing strategy of scouting LinkedIn profiles and offering them part-time work to promote the company while denying any actual affiliation. It’s not a marketing tactic that I’d expect from a car company.

GGprime

Tesla has 13 billions in debt, BYD 5.6.... Got any stats on your last comment?

AstroBullivant

BYD also has a much higher debt level, much higher. It can’t survive without massive amounts of subsidies. Also, no rational human being would honestly say that BYD makes a better car than Tesla. BYD cars go up in flames on a regular basis.

AstroBullivant

I read it. The argument is sound. BYD is currently selling at a loss with all of the other EV companies in China.

MaddogBC

The more jobs he takes from Canadian auto workers the more likely we are to invite BYD into our manufacturing sector. America is losing everywhere it counts and those that aren't swinging a hammer, are just standing around in disbelief.

somecleverphrase

tarrifs still tax the US people and china gets to sell BYD here and do all our infrastructure most likely.

Cute-Ad2879

China is rapidly catching up. TSLA sales failing globally being replaced by BYD sales, China making strides with AI...this might not be the certainty you believe it is in 10 or 20 years.

m1lh0us3

They have like 6-8 dealerships in all of Germany. I really considered buying a BYD but the next dealer is about 200 km away lol

LoudAd8781

Colombian here, you mentioned BYD. I know this isnt the topic of the post, but I want to mention that for the past 1-2 years BYD cars went from being non-existent to be flooding the streets, almost every model they have available and even their green version which isn't a very typical color to see around for any vehicle. They are doing a pretty good job at least here, just FYI.

fakenatty1337

And this is just the beginning. 3 months ago I could barerly see a BYD on the streets. Now I see them more and more frequently. Also BYD just launched a 17K€ model. Tesla gonna slip even harder.

CryptographerAny5654

Thanks. What about competitors such as BYD? Seems like BYD is winning EV market shares around the globe except for North America.

chopsui101

this is the funny part of the show where the europeans come in and say stupid crap that makes us laugh. Who wants to buy from Tesla, when you can buy from a quality company linked to Uyghurs genocide like BYD has been alleged to be. I get you are angry at Elon Musk for hurting your feelings, but instead holding up a Chinese company involved in ethnic cleansing......is very European thing to do if you consider your history.

Peterd90

Dream on. BYD is killing tesla and even if tesla has great cars, who wants to buy from a racist nazi.

Halberd96

Where I live in Australia BYD is trendier at the moment.

FertilisationFails

So let's see... Do we buy the EV stock that has a PE ratio > 100 with a retard as CEO (Muskrat), or the EV with PE ratio of 20, backed by the chinese govt (BYD)?

Madismas

I saw a BYD I'd london and it was gorgeous.

TechTuna1200

Yeah, Chinese EVs are still a very new thing for EU consumers, and many of them have still never heard about BYD. With that being said, I have seen a few BYD and XPeng cars appear in Copenhagen. 1-2 years back they were non-existent on the roads.

appleturnover

BYD doesn’t lie? 🤣

Nearby_Valuable_5467

BYD's EV demand is more in mainland China rather than world over, no? I think also $TSLA is getting hit with massive competition from other EVs. And Musk's a twerp.

ShadowLiberal

Agreed. We've also seen companies claim they've made major solid state battery breakthroughs, only to quietly abandon research into solid state batteries altogether a few months later. And then we've also seen companies just repeat the same lies about how awesome their totally real solid state batteries are that they totally have, and that will totally be in their vehicles in the next 3 to 5 years... for over 10 years now. And no one in the media ever calls them out on their blatant lies, and how they previously claimed the same solid state battery would already be on the market 5 years ago. IMO, the only people who make these claims are companies who know that they're behind the leaders in the EV space who are desperate to get investors to take them seriously, or to get people to just keep buying their ICE vehicles because EVs will only be good enough for them in the distant future. You never hear market leaders like Tesla or BYD make ANY claims about solid state battery breakthroughs for a reason, they don't have to lie to their investors to convince them that they're in a great position in the EV space.

Intrepid_Chard_3535

How does your mind even come up with that?  Chinese Brands 65,808 Includes BYD, MG (SAIC), Nio, XPeng, etc. Up 111% YoY Volkswagen Group ~27,000 – 30,000 Includes VW, Audi, Skoda, Cupra. Est. 19–21% of BEV market

Valoneria

And thats all fine and dandy, but they still Arent shipping anything at high volumes here. Might change with the Dolphin Surf (Seagull), but i am seldomly seeing others in BYD here in Denmark

reddit455

>massive import taxes should go away soon. The $4.5 billion factory is expected to produce about 200,000 vehicles a year from late 2025. **Satellite photos show how BYD's massive European factory is taking shape as it brings the fight to Tesla** [https://www.businessinsider.com/satellite-photos-show-byds-massive-hungary-factory-taking-shape-2025-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/satellite-photos-show-byds-massive-hungary-factory-taking-shape-2025-4) The 300-hectare site on the outskirts of Szeged is expected to have a maximum capacity of about [200,000 vehicles a year](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-22/byd-picks-hungary-for-its-first-european-ev-factory-site), and satellite images provided to Business Insider by Planet Images show how the factory is rapidly taking shape. Turkey is closer than China (shipping). **Chinese EV giant BYD to build $1 billion plant in Turkey** [https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/business/china-ev-byd-turkey-plant-intl-hnk](https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/business/china-ev-byd-turkey-plant-intl-hnk) > would put even Trump to shame. he has no shame. **Federal judge orders Trump admin to release EV funds signed by Biden to states** [https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/federal-judge-orders-trump-admin-release-ev-funds-signed-biden-states](https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/federal-judge-orders-trump-admin-release-ev-funds-signed-biden-states)

reddit455

>they're doing pretty poorly here in the EU 200 million live in Brazil. **BYD Shenzhen car carrier arrives in Brazil on maiden voyage with 7,300 cars on board** [https://cnevpost.com/2025/05/29/byd-shenzhen-car-carrier-arrives-brazil/](https://cnevpost.com/2025/05/29/byd-shenzhen-car-carrier-arrives-brazil/) >BYD is touted as a leader, IIRC, there are 2 other car companies that produce enough to justify owning their own ships. >with only a few success stories. yet.. a third factory may be in the works. **China's BYD expects to pick location for third European plant in 7-8 months** [https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinas-byd-complete-process-choose-location-third-plant-europe-7-8-months-2025-03-18/](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinas-byd-complete-process-choose-location-third-plant-europe-7-8-months-2025-03-18/) BYD will start operations at its assembly plant in Hungary in October, while a second site in Turkey is expected to come on line in March 2026. When fully operational, they will have a total production capacity of 500,000 cars per year.On Monday, Reuters reported that [BYD was considering Germany for a third facility](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/byd-considers-germany-third-plant-europe-2025-03-17/), as the region's biggest economy and car market opposed EU tariffs on China-made EVs last year.

chopsui101

is there any car company that has a major advantage or ahead of the rest? Besides BYD pumping out cheap AF cars no car company has an advantage and most trail Tesla

yowspur

Yes the Chinese have significant cost advantages when buildng EVs and hybrids. This comes from government subsidies, supply chain efficiencies and the lower cost of energy in China. This is not news. BYD has had a luckluster start in Europe but are [trying to make changes](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-ev-giant-byd-reboots-europe-operations-after-strategic-stumbles-sources-2025-04-23/?utm_source=chatgpt.com).

TheGoodCod

BYD beat Tesla sales in April and repeated the same in May. Many people think BYD has superior construct quality, and that at a much lower price. The problem with the stock though is that there is so much other stuff going on that it's difficult to determine a valuation. I think I'd be inclined to consider the car portion of income as neutral and then try to valuate based on other projects. But that's just me and I don't own the stock for reasons.

ericslayer67

Yeh Europes been rough for TSLA lately 5 months straight is definitely a red flag Brands taking a hit overseas while competitors like BYD pull back too,so it tough to tell if it Tesla specific or broader demand slowingIm holding for now but trimming some into the Q2 numbers just to be safe.

Rud3l

That means that BYD is working 27% less profitable in the EU and could effectively lower prices by that amount and still earn the same. The Atto 3 as a typical middle class SUV is 38k EUR so they could sell it at 28k for a SUV EV. Which is significantly cheaper than any other car company, VW is basically twice the price. Sales weren't that good because no one knew about BYD in 2024.

G4M35

I was on vacation in Europe last year, and saw the BYD cars, and and showrooms. I came back and started a small position in $BYDDY

danmw

I can't speak for all manufacturers, or where the parts are made, but BYD factories are currently being built in Hungary and Turkey with car production to begin by the end of the year.

Valoneria

Very much. As much as BYD is touted as a leader, they're doing pretty poorly here in the EU, with only a few success stories.

Morgoth27

To find your answer, look at what the future needs. Look at “trends”. For instance, the world is going to shit st the moment with microplastic, global warming and chemicals everywhere, that calls for a cleaner future. What technologies do we have at hand that can solve this, thats currently underrated?: nuclear energy! I believe EU (in the near future) will have to change its views and laws on nuclear energy, and start investing heavily in this area. So right now find some promising nuclear energy companies in the EU to invest in. Other future trends: -AI requires chips - invest in semiconductors! (Generally invest in the suppliers to the frenzies, like the old saying goes, when everyone rushes for the gold, sell shovels) - selfdriving car companies, flying cars, (Tesla,Xpeng,BYD) Invest in visionary leaders who are willing to takes risks, Musk, Zuckdawg, those kinds of people… My 2 cents, good luck

AmateurOntologist

BYDDY. In just one year, the amount of BYD cars on the roads in major cities here in Brazil is incredible. The basic models like the Dolphin are accessible to many middle class people here.

Teembeau

Tesla sell 6 times as many EVs as Ford. But are valued at 25 times more than Ford. And that's forgetting all the petrol cars that Ford sells. Europe, they are being outsold by BMW. Globally, by BYD.

Separate-Pace-9833

>“Read technicals” stock up 12% in 2 days 🤡🤡🤡 I don't read "technical analysis" if that's what you thought, I'm not a midwit. I read their technical specs and white papers. I'm an engineer and I actually understand wtf they're trying (and failing) to achieve. >Tesla best selling bev in Europe and US as of April and June. Let’s see end of the year. BYD still selling 60% hybrid, they are competing more with legacy ice companies than anyone else 🤣 Germany won’t have it in Europe. They control less than 1% of the market. Sales continue to drop while the overall EV market is growing. Cope with it. >Waymo going nowhere They're doing more than quarter of a million rides per week, and growing. Their tech actually works and they don't require a dedicated panic-button-presser in the front seat, lol. >37b in cash to spend on whatever they like Doesn't even cover the bonus payout to the CEO. You do realize that Tesla may never have another profitable quarter? CapEx was cut in half to minimize the damage. >Vertically integrated like no one else Except literally every other car manufacturer. Volkswagen has a small town dedicated to their factories. >How much did you lose with that bitch ass analysis? 🤣🤣 Nothing since I plan to close my shorts once it drops below $100.

davewuff

“Read technicals” stock up 12% in 2 days 🤡🤡🤡 Tesla best selling bev in china, Europe and US as of April and June. Let’s see end of the year. BYD still selling 60% hybrid, they are competing more with legacy ice companies than anyone else 🤣 Germany won’t have it in Europe. Waymo going nowhere 37b in cash to spend on whatever they like Vertically integrated like no one else How much did you lose with that bitch ass analysis? 🤣🤣

Successful_Ground373

This is going to be interesting. I owned BYDDY and BYDDF. I got my bonus shares tacked in my BYDDF Etrade account and the price is adjusted. I see in my Robinhood account which only offers the OTC BYDDY a pending cash dividend amount for August 13th buuuuut the price has not been adjusted. Does that mean anyone who holds BYDDY is not getting the extra shares only the cash dividend? And if they are as a few websites say they are (6-1 split) then does that mean that anyone who buys it between the Ex-dividend date and the date the shares are credited is going to get absolutely slaughtered on their investment? This ADR seems complicated and is also unsponsored. I sold all my BYDDY after the Ex date until this gets sorted out at the end of July. Figured I can always buy it back after the new shares are credited. Here is what AI says...... **BYD Company Limited has two different tickers in the U.S. market:**  * **BYDDF (Class H):** This stock had a 3:1 split on June 10, 2025. * **BYDDY (ADR):** This stock will have a future 6:1 split on July 29, 2025. 

throwaway2676

BYD is in china though. they don't need waymo or tesla

Individual-Habit-438

BYD stock should be ready for a turnaround from its June pullback. Iran and its neighbors send most of their oil through Hormuz to a bunch of markets where BYD is the dominant EV player. A potential oil crisis in China and other places where they sell a lot of electric cars should be bullish.

Individual-Habit-438

Seems like this should have helped my BYD stock more. Potential oil shock to a lot of countries where BYD sells lots of electric cars. That said Iran is likely to let their own oil and their regional allies oil pass through unless they have to mine the Strait up so much that nobody can pass.

ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

What is the expense? No I drive a Hyundai EV. I've just seen how good BYD batteries are.

Individual-Habit-438

I have a crapton of BYD stock...this oil shock should be bullish, right?

Necessary-Ad3018

BYD

Key_Presentation6826

Tesla is bubble. Its crazy that people are buying TSLA at a pe ratio of 185. Its not like its a great business. Doesnt have strong moat, consistent earnings, fundamentals as a whole. The moment ppl realize this, everyone would be dumping shares. As for its future outlook. - Trump is planning to remove incentives for ev - Elon’s controversy is hurting its sales -BYD has a comptetige advantage

C2theC

Because it calls you out specifically with evidence, such as VW’s release of a robotaxi, and BYD’s exports. Unlike your completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theorist claim of the all-powerful Toyota deep state being the top funder of Popular Mechanics in order to promote FUD. This post actually includes **references** to carmakers, that are *not* Toyota, that spend their money making better products, rather than the batshit crazy assertion they are spending money being the top funder of a niche magazine that no one reads anymore.

iD-10T_usererror

If BYD is somehow allowed to enter the US market it is game over for not just Tesla, but all US automakers. We have protected our market for a long time now. The tariff has always been \~100% which has served as a functional trade embargo. If Trump somehow allows China to make a factory here in his bargaining process it is going to be bad. BYD is being ignored when it comes to looking at Tesla's global sales. They are dominating and that is only accelerating. When they enter a market, they take over. They are doing that in Brazil right now. Take a look at their "BYD Shenzhen" in the article below. They purpose built the world's largest car-carrying ship to speed up their exports. Tesla isn't competing with that. Source: [https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/china-floods-brazil-with-cheap-evs-triggering-backlash-2025-06-19/](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/china-floods-brazil-with-cheap-evs-triggering-backlash-2025-06-19/)

Ap3X_GunT3R

I honestly don’t follow Tesla but I can’t imagine being in a tougher position. They’re getting blasted from every angle. A. CEO blew up brand loyalty. B. BYD is dominating on the affordability side. C. Waymo is/was dominating in the robo-taxi game. D. Current administration is looking to cut domestic EV/green energy spending. And now VW drops a Level 4 autonomous driving vehicle. Fucking hell.

reddituil

"The so-called "Dilian" issued by BYD is fundamentally different from traditional commercial paper, and the risks are significantly understated. Normally, commercial paper is a short-term debt instrument used by companies to meet immediate liabilities, backed by the company's credit and regulated under strict financial guidelines. However, BYD’s Dilian operates more like an internal IOU—it pays suppliers with a white slip, not actual cash, and that slip is only redeemable within BYD’s ecosystem. The key issue is **liquidity and transferability**: these Dilian slips can circulate among suppliers and be bundled into structured debt products, effectively turning operational liabilities into financial instruments. If each ¥10,000 slip is used to finance further at 70% efficiency, and this process repeats across the supply chain, it leads to **a chain of leveraged financing** built on a base of non-cash promises. This is **shadow banking in disguise**, and if confidence in BYD or its supply chain cracks, the entire structure can unravel—suppliers won’t get paid, financiers will be left holding worthless paper, and systemic risk could ripple far beyond BYD itself. This is **not normal commercial paper**—it’s a potentially dangerous financial loop."

TAKINAS_INNOVATION

The problem is imo all these businesses are still commodities at the end of the day. Unless Tesla can create an ecosystem like Apple. They’ll always be forced into shitty price wars with competitors like what BYD is doing to them right now. That’s just always been my concern about Tesla.

KeySpecialist9139

Tesla’s narrative-driven valuation mirrors the 19th century railroad bubble to the Railroads were sold as civilization’s backbone (just like Tesla as an "AI/robotaxi" play). In reality most were just low-margin transport businesses (like Tesla’s core auto sales today). When growth slowed, overbuilt lines collapsed. Only a few survived. Probably BYD will be the one left standing. 😜

Envid1um

Sold BYD at 8 dollars before split ...

dronz3r

Small and mid-cap companies may be fraudulent. I don't think large companies like BYD or Alibaba are dodging sales numbers.

Altruistic-Letter-78

you are not on the ground floor of BYD company. they have been a successful company for several years.

smutmybutt

I would say that example just proves that the Baltimore PD is fucking stupid. Any ineffective system can recommend people to arrest. I think Musk and Thiel are capable people who have compromised their own capability by falling so deeply into their ideology, self-absorbed echo chamber, and worst instincts (although Elon has the most publicly available evidence to back up this claim). In the case of Elon he has a long-term addiction to drugs that are negatively impacting his brain. There was also evidence of Elon being a bad manager in his “golden years.” His main talent was being a bully with VC money. By most accounts he was basically kicked out of PayPal. If Elon was smart he wouldn’t have needed to support the anti-EV party in order to avoid SEC trouble. If he was smart he wouldn’t have alienated his main customer base for Tesla, running the only EV brand with declining sales. If he was smart his multi-year head start producing cars in China would lead to his vehicles beating out BYD and other Chinese competition (companies run by smart people like Apple have no problem maintaining their first mover advantage in China).

Hot-Celebration5855

I didn’t find this super compelling. The thesis is basically “BYD has an incredibly efficient cash conversion cycle and long accounts payable timelines” therefore we are counting that as phantom debt. Maybe they’re just good at being aggressive with suppliers. I’d be a lot more worried about traditional car companies finances or even Tesla’s than BYD’s based on this information.

SleepyJohn123

Also not financial advice but I would say don’t put more than say 10% into BYD. It’s a great company but also very volatile, expect big ups and downs

No-Sympathy3276

The Tesla FSD extension event reveals this entire post as not credible. This was a disproportionate attack on BYD. BYD is putting its competition through a meat grinder. BYD’s competitors should work harder on better products, or move their capital to somewhere with less ferocious competition. I hear the USA is restricting the import of foreign cars. Maybe concentrate on that softer market, where life may be more comfortable.

ShogunMyrnn

Did my own research, terrible delivery numbers, terrible financials, job hopper CEO, massive amount of bag holders. Looks like its on the verge of bankruptcy, if I wanted a chinese EV company id invest in BYD. Give this one a miss, this guy is an oddball.

CatSweaty9418

The shares are in my brokerage now. They're on their own line (instead of just tripling the shares in my initial position). Here's how they currently appear: BYD CO LTD XXX SUBMITTED FOR TENDER SHS H

lplevolved

I appreciate your effort an investigation You might be paid off by BYD shorts but even at that I can appreciate a good investigation when I see one so congrats on that

volatilecandlestick

OP is a Chinese bot working for BYD

Separate_Fold5168

They'd be destroyed by cheaper more effective BYD Droidekas

No-Phrase-4692

Idk what this graph is supposed to prove other than China is the next big EV superpower, if they aren’t already. Plus that jumping BYD is my version of a Lambo

VeryStableGenius

> Very few Tesla shareholders will admit the business is deteriorating. And they don't understand that [TSLA's market cap is about the same as all the other carmakers put together.](https://companiesmarketcap.com/automakers/largest-automakers-by-market-cap/). Tesla would have to be making half the cars on the planet. Yet BYD alone made nearly twice as many EVs in 2024. Of course, Tesla's "real value" is in self driving taxis and that robot thing. Cars are, um, just a sideline.

somecleverphrase

no coming back from being a swasticar. When china outsmarts the taco BYD will be the new hit.

Nsxbychance

You can very well buy BYD in India. But it's not as cheap as in China. BYD seal might cost you close to 40K USD. It's slowly getting a foothold in India.

PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE

Thailand here. Those BYD cars are everywhere, even with their post-sale parts availability/repair being so shit it became a giant meme.

CatsalsoCookies

BYD is selling really well in EU, what do you mean?

Error_404_403

Their cars \*will\* be used for intelligence gathering, and no need to declare BYD a part of CCP for that: there are clear laws on books in China that mandates BYD to do exactly that. (well, Tesla cameras are also used for intelligence gathering in China, that's why the cars are not allowed around sensitive installations there).

nasi_lemak

I find it funny why the US doesn’t allow BYD cars. I thought free market economics are the cornerstone of the American constitution

DrMelbourne

Chinese makers offer suspiciously low prices in China. For example: 1) BYD Seagul, a small city car, starts at around 7'500 USD. 2) BYD Seal, a competent alternative to Tesla Model 3, is around 12k. If they indeed make them at even lower prices, the prices above will one day be export prices.

go_go_tindero

EU has BYD cars ?

willstaffa

Ill take a BYD over Tesla any day of the week. The cars are really well built, the tech is on par, and they actually look like cars!

Bright_Albatross649

really? thought they blocked BYD from selling in india

Nsxbychance

We have BYD in India.

Bright_Albatross649

who actually buy BYD cars, like they cant sell to the US, EU, or india?

Creepy_Artichoke_479

yeah i would snap up a BYD Seal if the price was close to being that low here, but I think there's always gonna be some kind of protection or additional tax that means we won't get anything close to these prices in the West

exp_cj

The western car paradigm is overpriced as a transport solution. There’s too much badge status and too many features. In a long term low or zero growth economy consumers will care more about using the car to get somewhere than they will about having headlights which can highlight road hazards or nav displays overlaying the windscreen. I haven’t driven a BYD but next time I replace my car it’s worth a look. Maybe if European manufacturers can automate production even more and bring the cost of the automation down they can compete again against the cheap Chinese labour.

Agitated-Lobster-623

So can I get a BYD car now?

Tewskey

fr. I don't get how / why people don't understand that this is one of those industries / products where the winners are always large, well capitalized firms. They simply have better researchers, better engineers, etc. How'd they competing with CATL and with BYD? And BYD has been cutting prices. also if any of them had even done any research, the challenge for solid state batteries is scaling it, not the prototype. Not to mention they've done alot of exciting investments but without any follow through on progress... still waiting to see an update on their 1.2GW solar BESS plant lol. If you even open the position costs data or smth on webull (admittedly there isn't alot of insight into how this is calculated, but it seems the bias is towards assuming more shares are being sold than actually are), this shit is scary af.

DuckTalesOohOoh

They're selling because the price is good and they seem decent. In China there are tons of complaints about quality. But BYD is losing money on every sale. The price is artificial.

ccs77

I'm actually looking for some Chinese ETFs with BYD and catl. But usually they are lumped with junk like Nio

DuckTalesOohOoh

BYD is a shell game. They make products that may or may not work. Claim $3.9 billion in debt but really have $45 billion in debt. You don't come back from this. They lose money on every car they sell.

WombatShwambat

BYD has a car that floats meanwhile if you splash a Cybertruck in a puddle it short circuits. TSLR $500 eoy

futilehabit

If they make them and price them like BYD they definitely will

Skysky1208

BYD slashed their prices by 34% and the other electric vehicle companies in China went apeshit. Pony Ai is a speculative pump and dump, it's not a profitable company.

Aceylace10

Crazy idea - Trump let’s BYD cars into America and Elon reacts with the craziest divorced partner crash out ever. (Everything sucks, but I find the little things to enjoy in this roller-coaster to hell)

kakapo88

Which is kind of weird, isn't it? I've never heard of that sort of gap before. If you 100 shares of BYD pre-split, you still have 100 shares until July. And yet the stock price itself reflects the split ... meaning you'd show a 66.67% loss. All on paper of course, but still a bit unnerving until the July 29th.

benj760486

BYD Shanghaid 2/3 my investment

Jerikolol

wasnt it just to get the chinese students back into harvard? so no h20, no chips, no BYD in USA etc?

GPTthrowawayyyyyyyy

Please be BYD, that makes Americans happy and melon very sad :(

MariaTPK

So ending the tariffs on BYD cars? Finally Americans can buy real electric vehicles? That'd hurt Elon too much, so Trump would never do it, but like 55% or 10%, none of that says 100%.