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Ok-Detective-5687

I literally joked and asked my doctor this and he rec’d camel unfiltered 3 packs a day. Also all the bacon I can eat. And alcohol without moderation. (After we talked about what is happening with boofin Bobby and the CDC)

FujitsuPolycom

They'll eventually train this out or remove the peer research. See: NIH, CDC, NOAA, etc.

ResistEfficiently

Oh aren't you just adorable with your state media talking points! 🤣 1. Culling is standard department of agriculture policy, and has been since long before Biden, and is the exact same policy currently under your fuhrer. Since the current bird flu outbreak began in February 2022, approximately 166 million birds have been culled as part of these efforts. While the majority of these culls occurred during the Biden presidency, it's obviously because the outbreak started while Biden in office. This iSnT rOcKeT sCiEnCe. The policy and practice of depopulation have continued unchanged under the current administration, and an estimated 13 million birds were affected since February. 2. Egg prices are down 14% in the last couple months. They are still up 41% from where they were in 2024. They're currently still projected to raise 20% in 2025. 3. All Trump has done is kneecap the USDA and the FDA, pulled money from a program that was creating an avian flu vaccine, and fired thousands of their employees with their fake ass doge nonsense, (whom there are now struggling to hire back). Also the CDC has been instructed to no longer file reports on avian flu. Is this the "proactive addressing" of the problem you were speaking of? Fucking clown. I don't know how you find time to be condescending with all that orange dick in your mouth.

BirthdayWaste9171

I know hard to believe your trusted leader was inept. Under Biden, the USDA failed to proactively address the spread of H5N1 virus leading to the rampant spread of the disease and subsequent mass cullings from 2022-2024 nearly 150 million birds were unalived…most of which were egg laying hens. This policy of mass culling even when only a few cases were dedicated lead to entire flocks being eradicated. And shocker the increase in egg prices. Now that mass cullings are no longer the “suggested” approach egg prices are declining with increased production. Not rocket science people. Source: American Farm Bureau and CDC.

iReallyDontLikeSpez

Thanks, I try to engage in good faith and not sound like my hair is on fire - doesn't always work lol. I agree my reasoning is speculative, but at least the whistleblower claims at DOJ and the CDC/HHS stuff has been reported by NYT and others so I trust it. I just put myself in that team's place and think "if it's my family's ability to not be homeless or this dumb report that WSB is gonna ignore just to buy more calls", I unfortunately think I know which I'd pick.

iReallyDontLikeSpez

Can't speak for BLS specifically but reclassifying all employees as Schedule F (political appointees) removes most labor protections so govt employees now have significant risk to their jobs for not aligning with policy. DOJ whistleblowers report significant push to defy judges in line with political policy from DJT. CDC/HHS scientists overruled by political appointees over COVID shot recommendations. Huge numbers of layoffs mean everyone is pulling double duty just to keep above water. It doesn't take a huge leap or even a small step to see how these numbers could get messed up just based on overworked employees alone, but combine that with the fear of reprisal (from a Prez who strongly cares about these numbers in particular for his economic image) and I think it gets real hard to trust these.

Diligent_Fox_9072

It's called monkey pox, you queer. Biden's CDC tried forcing another vax on everyone for that too

spendology

JNJ has a new HIV pill...we just need the CDC to approve so you can C Deez Nutz!! 🥜

arcaias

Which was allowed to spread due to reduced CDC funding, which was his call...

FujitsuPolycom

Tax payer money for medicaid to help the tax payer? Nope. Science and medicine research? Nope. Forestry and parks staff? Nope. CDC? NIH? Nasa? Nope. Golden dome.

ByahhByahh

I can't believe RFK Jr named Joe Rogan as a member of the CDC vaccine panel.

Redfield11

Sick people spend more money than nearly anyone else, and lower FDA/CDC regulations typically benefits companies. I cannot tell you how big a stamp "EU grade" is for baby formula which pretty much tells you what you need to know about the priorities hahasadhaha

YoWifesOtherBF

You think it is too far fetched? Measles on the rise, CDC got scrappped, pulling out of WHO.

lordofming-rises

Didn't they fire all CDC in the US. They are going to get nice outbreaks

Happy_Discussion_536

>RFK Jr. removes all current members of CDC vaccine advisory committee Mfer trying to kill WSB?

Spy300

>BREAKING: US Health Secretary RFK Jr. has removed all members of the CDC panel advising the US on vaccines.

cutiesarustimes2

BREAKING: US Health Secretary RFK Jr. has removed all members of the CDC panel advising the US on vaccines. Mrna to $0?

Hot-Adhesiveness-438

I would just note that with the DoL being the source of information and reporting directly to the Administration, we may not know the truth of the matter. 🤷 I know, its impossible to think theyd adjust data of official records ... https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/13/nx-s1-5297177/cdc-scientists-publications-trump-administration Authors who've submitted manuscripts are being instructed to ask journal editors to withdraw them if they are in conflict with Trump's executive order on gender and "cannot be adjusted to align with EO requirements," according to the memo. If some of the other authors aren't federal employees, CDC authors are "advised to request to withdraw their names from the author line."

JimJimmery

The CDC is doing this because of Kennedy. It did not go through the normal CDC process.

Recent_Afternoon_714

The CDC rec for pregnant women and children actually happened, so not sure where the untruth is?

HermitSlab

Yeah that’s what Ive been hearing ever since the COVID vaccine. And now look? The CDC even removed it being recommended for infants and pregnant women…apparently it’s way more dangerous than they told you.

Spankynpetey

RFK jr wasn’t part of any vaccine development. He’s an anti-vax lunatic. The vaccine programs were in Trump 1.0 and RFK Jr wasn’t part still wandering around Samoa peddling conspiracy theories about the MMR vaccine in 2019 that caused 83 measles death in the following outbreak. He’s a menace to society. The CDC has refused to follow his lunacy in their childhood vaccine recommendations released Friday. I expect there will be mass firings there this week.

JohnMayerSpecial

And as the CDC itself pointed out, it isn’t safe enough to recommend to everyone. I don’t care if it’s more temp stable

JohnMayerSpecial

Approved for 65+ “as well as individuals aged 12-64 years with at least one or more underlying risk factor as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)” So they’ll only let you take it if you’re already fucked up, hardly a ringing endorsement

lexi_con

In all, the increased decay and boosted dental costs would disproportionately affect children who are in low-income families, in rural areas, and/or on public health insurance. The study's findings are likely unsurprising to those in the public health community, who have consistently supported fluoridation. The practice, however beneficial, has a long history of being under attack. After its introduction in the US in 1945, conspiracy theorists claimed fluoridation was a communist plot and a form of government mind control. More recently, critics have claimed that fluoridation lowers IQ. The data linking water fluoridation to low IQ is controversial. Many of the studies on the topic are of poor quality and have numerous confounding factors and flawed methods. Many compare IQ levels in communities in China and other countries, where there are areas with water that is naturally high in fluoride—much, much higher than what is intentionally added to US water. Further, a federal meta-analysis—a type of study that aggregates and reanalyzes data from independent studies—has been plagued by criticism for bias, poor statistical methods, and a lack of data transparency. But despite the controversy, one thing is clear in all the data and debate: Any possible association with low IQ and fluoridation only occurs at excessive levels—levels more than twice the amount used in the US and recommended by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC recommendation for water fluoridation levels is 0.7 mg/L, while potential harms are not observed until water levels exceed 1.5 mg/L. Some areas in China have natural levels as high as 11.8 mg/L. The authors of the new study conclude that, at current US levels, the benefits are clear. "These findings suggest that, despite the potential harms of excessive fluoride exposure, fluoridation at safe levels offers both individual and societal benefits that would be at risk."

teamyg

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the obesity rate in the United States in 2021-2023 was40.3%. This means that approximately 40% of adults in the U.S. were classified as obese. If we can't lower the cost of healthcare, then 10X grocery prices might be another way out. 

DistrictPleasant

Ohhh gotcha! 20 years ago most grants were "direct" (Project Specific) that universities would submit RFAs or NOFOs to apply for grants. These grants have super specific guidelines. Grants were super competitive and usually issued by like the DoD, NASA, DoE, or CDC. Now a larger portion of grants are "indirect" (Block Grants). These are non competitive and automatically awarded to institutions. The idea behind these grants is to do research on longer time frames, but what often happens is that there is a ton of waste because the scope of the research isnt specific.

j4ckbauer

If the tariffs were collected by the National Endowment for the Arts or the CDC I would be inclined to think they'd use the court ruling to stop collecting them. Since this is CBP we're talking about...

Sounders12

When the court decided the CDC had no authority to impose mask mandates on airplanes, did they undo the obstacles two year olds and their parents had to endure when they were kicked off the plane? The damage is already done.

unhappyreach_

>Cases linked to the NB.1.8.1 variant have been reported in arriving international travelers at airports in California, Washington state, Virginia and the New York City area, according to records uploaded by the CDC's airport testing partner Ginkgo Bioworks. Are we really doing this again

StrengthDazzling8922

Don’t worry CDC won’t be testing for it.

LongTermStocks

Telomir Pharmaceuticals (TELO) continues to expand its potential portfolio and just announced that it had identified Telomir-Ag2 as a novel drug candidate for the treatment of bacterial infections. According to the company, Telomir-Ag2 is a stabilized Silver(II) complex that, in preclinical testing, showed broad-spectrum antimicrobial activity, including against MARSA (methicillin- and aminoglycoside-resistant *Staphylococcus aureus).* According to the CDC, MARSA is a drug-resistant variant responsible for infections in hospitals and in the US causes over 323,000 hospitalizations and more than 10,000 deaths per year. According to Verified Market Research the silver wound dressing market is expected to reach $1.36 billion by 2030, while the antimicrobial coatings market is expected to reach $33.7 billion by 2031.

Huskies971

When people start looking at this administration as a reality TV show everything makes sense. It's all about appearance nothing is real. Trump signs an EO to investigate IVF costs calls himself the father of IVF. Then at the same time guts government IVF researchers investigating infertility at the CDC.

onetwoskeedoo

I wish the NIH and CDC big wigs had a spine and reject the EOs

GroundbreakingFun295

You're fundamentally wrong. Firstly, it was his administration that wanted to PARTIALLY restrict borders because he wanted to downplay the pandemic. People called for the border to close so it didn't reach the US because they were terrified of what COVID has done in China. When he realized things were serious, he took the opportunity to call it "his decision" to close the border. He made many contradictory claims and handled the pandemic like a bump in the road. The CDC issued warnings early that December, but Covid hadn’t reached the US yet. You know what he said when the first person reached here positive with COVID??? “Oh, we’re fine, it’s just one person.” Not to mention Covid itself was an undocumented strain that NO doctor was prepared for, much less had vaccines. So undermining a whole new illness was genuinely his fault and he did not stay neutral like you claim.

ToaPaul

And who gutted the CDC and infectious disease cintrol early into his first term? Oh wait, agent 🍊. "You should review history" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5468112/

Less-Procedure-4104

It was on CNN I saw it real time. You should maybe review the history , blaming agent 🍊 for the WHO and CDC mismanagement is a bit crazy. By the why I think your response is a weird take because you have no counter just the ad homenin attack of weird. Hey I think it is weird ,so what . I think it is weird everyone still blames agent 🍊 for a total and absolute failure of the medical system. Not a fan but also not his fault.

Theomach1

The CDC is biased? I injured myself rolling my eyes so hard.

Vast-Salt9399

With all respect, the APHA is funded by the CDC; and omission and obvious conflict of interest that leave the rest of your post suspect in the least and undoubtedly biased in the worst. Perhaps this fact is a revelation, but I’d assume not considering how well informed, well articulated, and properly researched the rest of your response has been formulated. All of which I can and do appreciate; it would just seem on this matter we are in opposition.

Patient_Sea_3753

Cut CDC funds and get another pandemic to return to affordable gas

_Please

The stock price rocketed under Biden, could you clarify how that was controlled by Trump and a mastermind insider trading scheme? Just check the chart since IPO to 2025... >A document leaked to TechCrunch revealed that Palantir's clients as of 2013 included at least twelve groups within the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. However, at the time, the United States Army continued to use its own data analysis tool.[^(\[31\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#cite_note-tebtecnchrun-31) Also, according to TechCrunch, the U.S. spy agencies such as the CIA and FBI were linked for the first time with Palantir software, as their databases had previously been siloed.[^(\[31\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#cite_note-tebtecnchrun-31) Somehow they've been given so many contracts by other administrations to grift. So many that I can't even link them, my comment goes beyond the max accepted length. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir\_Technologies#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#) If you think every shitty company with shitty fundamentals is an insider trading scheme... well you might be new to the market. This is not the first, nor is it new. Enjoy your stay and remember this simple quote, "the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent"

fritopendejo42069

Lmao and who’s going to do that? NIOSH and CDC have been gutted. Starbase’s local health department? Don’t count on it.

Realanise1

In the short run: The market will go way up, obviously. In the long run: The economy in general will fall into a recession for other reasons. One of the biggest reasons has been brought up here before, but not often enough: Trump and co are doing their best to destroy many areas of science in the US. More specifically, public health is being absolutely trashed in *many* specific ways. The long term economic consequences of taking away all that research and development and innovation and new products are massive. The medium term consequences will probably include a human H5N1 pandemic with effects that are much, much more severe than they need to be. There are many reasons why the 1918-1920 pandemic caused more death and devastation than any of the others in the past century or so, but one of the largest is that there was no public health system as we would understand it today. No CDC, no coordination between local health systems, no NIH etc. The lack of effective public health may actually have been more of a factor than the lack of antivirals or antibiotics for secondary infections. And some of these consequences of that earlier pandemic were of course economic ones.

AnalystNatural5682

So the unwoken genius' are cutting 60% of the CDC budget 4 years after a pandemic. Stock up on masks now wokies.

jrex035

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Trump administration is all about short term gain for longterm pain. Pinching pennies on the budgets of NASA, NIH, CDC, FDA, NOAA, FEMA, the DOE, the National Parks Service, etc save us practicaly nothing in the short run, but will completely fuck our R&D, cripple longterm economic growth, and send future costs related to public health skyrocketing. Its the equivalent of stripping the copper wiring from your house to help pay for your 3rd Lamborghini. The people proposing these plans dont give a shit, they'll be dead before the consequences of these policies are truly felt. There's an ancient saying that goes "a society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they will never sit." We're doing the complete fucking opposite, ensuring that the rich and the old can enjoy unsustainable prosperity at the expense of future generations.

expensive_hammer

Guy I know got RIF'd from the CDC. Offered to refer him to a remote tech position, 6 figure comp plus bonus and stock options, radio silence  Job market must be booming. Bullish 

narrowant341

New WH budget-WaPo INCREASES -> \- $1 trillion in military spending, 13% jump \- $43 billion increase to DHS \- More charter school money CUTS --> \- $4 billion to Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program \- $3.5 billion to CDC \- $18 billion to NIH \- $670 million to "program management" at Centers for Medicare & Medicaid \- $2.5 billion cut to EPA's clean and drinking water loan fund \- $646 million cut to FEMA (admin says "non-disaster" programs), $650 million cut to shelter and services program \- 24% cut to NASA, space launch rocket, Orion, and other programs cancelled. [Link](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/02/white-house-budget-proposal-2026/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social) 

Slight-Recipe-3762

Well, we cut funding to the CDC we all might get it

hackingdreams

> It is just built around words that Trump likes the sound of. It's built around making sure the US's economic footing in the world falters, so that BRICS can pick it up. There's no rational way you can look at what's happening and say that it's good for America. But it's *fantastic* for China, and it's pretty damn good for Russia after years of sanctions and the falling Ruble. You look around this administration and it's like we let the terrorists run things. US science leadership? Wrecking ball. The CDC? Let's put a guy with literal brain worms in charge, what's the worst that can happen? The economy? Tariffs baby, let's rip up every trade relationship we have in the entire world! The US dollar should survive just fine... Everywhere you look... it's bad for America.

MixGlittering1652

He'll blame Biden or Obama for any bad news for the next four years and probably longer. I have a feeling he'll blame the next hurricane or flood on Biden's disastrous climate policies. I'm surprised he hasn't told us the avian flu was released by a CDC lab during Biden's watch and that's why we ended up with high egg prices. Biden's fault, right?

iamcoolstephen1234

This happened during his last term, too. Only it was his followers saying this. The market goes up in the final weeks of Obama's presidency, continuing the trend from the previous 6 years, and his followers gave Trump credit because the market "was excited for his presidency." Then he cuts regulations and departments for public health to "streamline" national health teams, including the team responsible for pandemic preparedness. Then Covid comes it all goes to shit because they are unprepared. Then they blame Obama for not preparing for covid. The CDC repeatedly tries to get people to understand the danger from covid and communicates how to respond. Trump calls it a hoax. His followers call it a hoax and fucking die to protect their savior. And the market keeps crashing. Republicans spend the next four years convincing the public that "no one knew it would be that bad." And now we have them back. Buckle up.

RebelWithoutAClue

Way back at the beginning of CoV-19 someone noticed that China's new infection reports were very closely following a parabolic function. This stuck out because uncontrolled infections tend to rise according to an exponential function. It became clear that they weren't reporting actual new infection numbers, but were reporting a fairly simplistic mathematical lie. At some point Trump got annoyed at the CDC regularly reporting increasingly ugly numbers so he legislatively disconnected it from hospital new infection reports. All the data would go through the Dept of Health and Human Services (DoHHS), a federal department under is direct control. DoHHS would magically begin reporting constant new infection numbers. An ever increasing slope would be replaced by a flat horizontal line. That Xi would use a mathematically more complex lie than Trump could indicate an asymmetry in mathematical skill between the leaders. It could also indicate that the two leaders have constituencies which require different level of complexity in the lies it will accept. If we were to accept that constituencies are compelled by their leaders (definitionally), then it would follow that their leaders are providing narratives that pass muster with their constituencies. Like it or not, there are a lot of voters who don't do a lot of math. Have you done any math yourself to weigh the statements that you are compelled by?

menghis_khan08

I’m a cancer research her who has watched half my colleagues get furloughed bc the NIH/NCI has been dissolved. That’s not political theater that’s a breaking of a fundamental federal institution that provides a service (academic biomedical research) for the greater good. And you could say the same thing about dep of education, VA hospitals, national park services, the CDC, etc

swordquest99

The impact of the DOGE layoffs is likely going to be larger than an equal number of layoffs under “normal” conditions because of the disproportionately high number of unionized professionals among the people laid off by DOGE many of whom cannot transfer their skills, experience and training to an equal paying job in the private sector. For example if you were an epidemiologist with the CDC or an ecologist for the Park Service or Interior or many of the other folks working good jobs who are now potentially going to only be able to find work that pays much less.

CarbonatedCoins

Tbf that is the prevailing theory at the moment. DOD stated active personnel in Wuhan got sick at the military games with what they suspected was Covid a few months before the outbreak officially happened at the wet market. The area that held the games is next to the Wuhan virology institute and other government and public facilities and the area was on quarantine/lockdown even then. Theres also the fact that most everyone agreed Covid was made in a lab in the FOIA’d email exchange among NIH and CDC senior staff then a phone call is scheduled by Fauci and everyone in the email chain changes their mind. It also doesn’t help that the Germans and Israelis also believe it came from a lab. And the Germans have a far more amicable relationship with China.

gkdjsl

First year is brutal, would be better off letting the toddlers chill at a CDC lab with rubber hammers

RonaldWRailgun

Different points to be made, yes, realistically going straight from this to Auschwitz is an exaggeration. On the other hand, there were plenty of people on either side of the war, that even in the thick of it, genuinely believed that reports of mass exterminations were "exaggerations". But finally, these kind of medical studies are better left to professionals (doctors, researchers, etc.) that, with all their shortcomings and with all their bad apples, at least have a basic grasp of ethics. I don't want "politicians" (and that's being generous, since we're talking about Trump & Co.) to start studying medical records and come up with conclusions, which are going to be by definition biased by their own political views. Especially if you consider that these are the same people trying to oppose and defund the CDC and the health department in any way they possibly can. What could possibly go wrong.

Clittle93

The ADDM Network has been tracking ASD since 2000, providing a historical context for understanding changes in prevalence. Data from the ADDM Network is used to estimate the number of 8-year-old children with ASD in various communities. CDC also offers resources like the "Learn the Signs. Act Early." program and the Milestone Tracker mobile app to support early identification and tracking of developmental milestones in children.

BarryDeCicco

I know a friend whose father was at the fringes of this. Basically, the CDC and Dept of Agriculture maintain field offices all over the world, to act as advanced scout for future threats. Compared to the problems that outbreaks can cause, this is cheap. But Trump knows better.........

_bluebayou_

That’s what Trump and musk have been telling them. There’ll be a little pain but then America will be back better than before. Just be patient. Meanwhile, Trump needs Powell to drop interest rates so the billionaires can get those low interest rate loans to buy up everything trump is actively destroying. Recession/depression is the best time to buy. Here are the main cast of characters: https://theplotagainstamerica.com/ There’s a subreddit for Curtis Yarvin, he’s big on dictatorships and thinks that’s what America needs. He’s good friends with Peter Thiel, who owns Vance and a bunch of companies, one which analyzes data for government agencies. Wikipedia: Palantir “A document leaked to TechCrunch revealed that Palantir’s clients as of 2013 included at least twelve groups within the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. However, at the time, the United States Army continued to use its own data analysis tool. Also, according to TechCrunch, the U.S. spy agencies such as the CIA and FBI were linked for the first time with Palantir software, as their databases had previously been siloed.” All this, plus all the data the whistleblower said was taken by DOGE, would give anyone a pretty complete set of data for just about everyone in the US. They have a bit of a libertarian bent so no government oversight, which should be great for non-billionaires, eh? No taxpayer funded services, everything privatized, no religious freedom. I hope your husband is right because the alternative isn’t looking that great.

RiffyWammel

Cuts CDC and department of agriculture.....Biden caused this!

MagJack

People just want to point out the bad things about Trump winning the election like the world economy collapsing and our allies hating us and the FDA and CDC losing funding, but they forget about important things like the freedom to insult strangers online.

Not_a_real_asian777

I watched as many of my family members, old friends, and coworkers went from not even knowing what the CDC was to being completely convinced the CDC was an actual crime organization in the span of like 1 year. I'm already seeing the sort of early stages of this pipeline with the Fed now too with people online. Small remarks like, "Interest rates were low in 2019, and things weren't so expensive, so I don't know why they're putting up so much resistance to trying it again." The seeds are planted for people to start hating Powell and the rest of the Fed over the coming year. I'm worried many people will view Powell as a villain on his way out of office when he's been one of the only people in a leadership position we've largely been able to rely on to do his job the past few years.

Independent-Tree-985

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCVKc1ltQ8&ab_channel=AssociatedPress > LIVE: RFK Jr. briefs on latest CDC autism figures If youre looking for something to listen to

bullrfuk

>Autism rate rises to 3% of children in CDC study. One out of 31 children — more than 3% of kids — have been identified with autism, according to the latest results published Tuesday from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study that tracks trends of autism's prevalence across some communities in the U.S.

TurielD

'think' all that? CDC and NIH already gutted. PhD student snatched off the street and taken to secret detention facility for wrongthink this week. Harvards' funding cur by billions for not kissing the ring... Today. Yes, I think that

BuckskinBound

Well beyond that it gets a little fuzzy for me to predict specific industry impacts. For example, automotive industry — I picked wrong for COVID, because I though the excess death rate in the elderly was going to result in a glut of used automobiles flooding the market and depressing prices. But of course, disruptions in the supply chain instead caused prices across the board to jump. But will the electric market speed up or slow down? Will Tesla crash out or get bailed out? I can’t tell; too much depends on mercurial policy decisions from the White House. I do see one sure bet: the only industry that will have reliable employment openings will be geriatric care. Because there are a shit-ton of aging Boomers who got industrial-strength exposure to lead and cigarettes and plastics all through their lives and thus will be riddled with dementia and Alzheimer’s and will need full-time caretakers. BUT, these jobs will pay minimum wage and will thus see constant churn and understaffing. So if you put Grandma Karen in a home you can be sure you’ll find her sitting around in a dirty diaper if you can ever cobble together the gas money to visit her. Speaking of gas money…will gas prices go up or down? Will the recession push them down, or will inflation push them up? Will Russia ever back out of Ukraine and rejoin the world economy instead of just selling to India and China? Will different/more/worse shit go down in the Middle East and disrupt supply? Who knows! US Retail is definitely gonna eat shit. Tech is gonna flounder as it blows billions chasing after AI magic that LLMs aren’t equipped to deliver. Home building probably shits the bed proportional to how much the real estate market tanks. Scientific research and supporting industries are screwed from DOGE / RFK Jr / Trump rat-fucking the FDA / NIH / CDC / NASA / NOAA / etc, which is rough because a lot of expensive research equipment is still (custom) built in the US. So those dollars usually recirculate directly into the US economy and all get sucked up and invested into whatever shitcoin Trump is pumping for his “strategic cryptocurrency reserve.” And we’ll probably get one or two Force Majeur events (hurricane, pandemic, earthquake, terrorist attack) for which we will then be utterly unprepared because Trump will have hollowed out FEMA and the CDC and Dept of State and Dept of HHS and so on, and has Homeland chasing legal immigrants out of the country instead of watching for Nazi extremists who will try to blow up a blue state Capitol building or something heinous. And that’s not even touching on the literal firestorm that will likely result circa 2027-2028 when Trump takes steps to stay in office beyond a second term.

WhatYouThinkIThink

He's not focusing on *real* issues at all. He's gutting the FDA, CDC, NIH, Universities, pharmaceutical research. That's like burning the Library of Alexandria. He's destroying the education funding in the US, meaning that people won't be getting higher education, children with special needs won't be getting funding for their plans. He hasn't focused on one **real** issue since Day 1.

tomorrow509

More cases of bird flu transitioning to humans too. Don't worry, the CDC will save us.

fredsherbert

yeah china is really our enemy. that's why we made covid19 together and CDC did nothing about the Chinese biolab playing with Ebola (!!!) etc. in Reedley California

adriatic_sea75

I agree that it wouldn't matter anymore if the head of some government agency came out with YpuTube educational videos, pie charts, graphs, commercials. Right wing nut jobs would be there yelling, "It's fake! Obama and Biden and Hillary and Hunter's laptop!" We had researchers and the head of the CDC telling people to get vaccinated, and you see how that went. There will be some clown like Pool, Kirk. Shapiro, Carlson, MTG, *whomever* calling this all a deep-state plot to undermine whatever is on the menu this week. Nothing factual, science, legal, or evidence-based matters anymore. Education and information are no longer facts to troglodyte right-wingers with enough platform to fuck everything up.

Terrible_Act688

The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! 4:42 PM · Feb 24, 2020 The last time 🥭 said to buy the market collapsed days later.

BoxConnect1366

They just gutted NIH, FDA, CDC, and who knows what other medical centers in the U.S. so that we CAN'T have safe drugs, and now they want us to buy God knows what from overseas or let just any company come here and produce drugs of dubious quality? Did RFK, Jr's brain worm multiply and infect the rest of them!?! 

Sort-Fabulous

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fourflatyres

That's the whole purpose behind this. Russia was sick and tired of US positive influence acting at multiple levels across the globe, from direct aid to unrestricted trade. So the Russian agenda has been to disrupt all of those influence and alienate all of the formerly solid US allies. Even freakin Canada. It's not that Trump is their puppet. But he is extremely easily influenced by the right kind of carefully constructed comments and from his advisers, and frankly, random people he chooses to listen to. All they had to do was make sure everybody was telling him the same message, Canada bad, China bad, US AID bad, CDC bad, DoE bad, etc. Everything being done will undermine the US influence internationally for a century, and targeting domestic things like education and the CDC will ensure we have our legs cut out from under us to recover.

KAY-toe

Too much strawman here, I didn’t mention Putin or Ukraine, did not say that China has no democracy because of Xi alone when obviously there is a long history which accounts for how they got where they are, etc. 100% agree about the 1M Americans lost to COVID which you got from CDC, but CCP’s estimate for how many Chinese were lost is comically low because as much as the US is swimming in misinformation, in China when it comes to government accountability misinformation is all the state media publishes.

UnregisteredDomain

> touch grass Take your own advice [Recently Recalled Children’s Products Due to Lead Hazards - by the CDC](https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/154/Supplement%202/e2024067808P/199572/Recently-Recalled-Children-s-Products-Due-to-Lead?autologincheck=redirected)

SirStocksAlott

Sounds about right: [CDC’s top laboratory on sexually transmitted diseases is shut by Trump administration](https://www.statnews.com/2025/04/05/cdc-sexually-transmitted-diseases-laboratory-closed-by-trump-administration/)

FrancisFratelli

Assuming there was a lab leak, no. Cutting funding for pandemic preparedness before hand, though, absolutely is the government's fault, as is not taking the initial outbreaks in the US seriously, not enforcing a proper lockdown, and not enforcing mask mandates. And of course rather than learn a lesson from all this, we are now dismantling the CDC and putting loons who don't believe in vaccines in charge. Fault is not a binary. China may have screwed up, but that doesn't absolve the US of mistakes. Your argument is basically that Kimmel and Short shouldn't have been punished for bungling Pearl Harbor because the Japanese were the ones that attacked. It's nonsense.

RJ5R

*- Fewer choices* *- Higher prices* *- No new factories* *- No new jobs* *- No FEMA, FDA, CDC, EPA, CFPB, or Education Dept* *- Limited SEC so wall street can dildo retail investors without consequence* *- Washed out retirement savings* **How could you not have voted for this??**

sweeettendies

Reminds me of that time when CDC lied and said masks were essential

Key_Break_9312

I am utterly convinced Covid would have never been a worldwide pandemic if Trump had also just done literally nothing his first term. He pissed off China and in order to further antagonize them, removed our CDC monitor there. Then due to no warning with that person gone and with China trying to cover it up in the most China way, Covid went unchecked from October 2019 through January. By the time it started becoming a worldwide story in January it was too late and already had started spreading around the world. Then what you mentioned exacerbated it further.

Independent-Tree-985

> Second child dies of measles as Texas outbreak worsens > Across the whole of the US, more than 600 cases of measles have been recorded so far this year, more than double the 285 cases that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recorded last year. > In 2019, there were a total of 1,274 measles cases recorded across the US, but prior to that there had not been a larger outbreak than this year's since the early 1990s, according to the CDC. I wasnt even aware we had more cases in the past 3 months than the whole of last year

SnooPineapples597

Grandpa Dementia makes every week worse and then gloats that he gets to go golfing.... at least he wont close the CDC.. oh wait...

earthcomedy

let's see...who supported the CDC? Who loves the CDC?

Goblin_Fat_Ass

Then he continued to have rallies where no one was social distancing or wearing masks. He famously wouldn't wear masks himself. Pushed nonsense like Hydroxchloroquine and Ivermectin. He downplayed by calling it a flu/cold. He intentionally tried to keep the CDC from testing. He denied medical equipment to blue states. Trump killed 1M people.

Tomtom48HWI

So true. Reducing fundings to CDC, withdrawing from WHO, naming an antivax as secretary of health, who himself says he’s missing a piece of his brain. What can possibly go wrong ? Reducing the US from a global power to a regional one in two months. What an idiot. Make China Great Again

Byte_hoven

NEWS... worm brain says CDC layoffs a mistake... secret code for ... can i has tar-ifs back?

miemcc

Oh my god. The stupidity in this comment is ridiculous. You DID have a great national health intelligence and research network with NIH and CDC. Guess what gutted... Most pharma science happens from multinational corporations such as Novartis, AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Merck, GSK. Looking from a pharma equipment supplier point of view, a machine that cost £1M before is now £1.25M, but that machine is still vital for the research because there is no alternative. Factor in all of the single-use consumables, the cost if a two-week experiment had risen for 2 to £2.5M. You can then factor on the GDP to USD exchange rates and increased shipping paperwork costs. Yippee aye ayyy MF....

pcfirstbuild

**Incorrect.** Point 1: He appointed an anti-vaxer to oversee all our health (FDA, USDA, CDC), this includes poultry. Massive cuts and brain drain are happening in these departments right now. We will probably react inappropriately or too late to the next bird flu outbreak. This affects the supply chain of eggs and price. Point 2: He is enacting tariffs on all other countries. While we typically have large scale egg production domestically, we've been trying to import them more than usual to offset shortages. Imported eggs that are tariffed will increase the price for the consumer. We would have lower egg costs if he literally did nothing but this clown goes out of his way to fuck up our economy (along with rule of law and other things...) every chance he gets.

Hopefulwaters

Actually, I disagree that it is political suicide. It is the opposite if done right imo. With confidence, collaboration, a new party could be born that will rule for the next 60 years by taking out the trash. The first Republican to grow the balls and support to impeach Trump, Vance, Pete Hegseth, Michael Waltz, John Ratcliffe, Tulsi Gabbard, Repeal Tariffs and pass legislation to limit them to a 90% vote by Congress, curtail executive orders, Fire Pam Bondi, Fire Leavitt, Fire & Jail & Sue Elon Musk and every member of DOGE, Restore CFPB, FEMA, USAID, DOE and reinstall our antimoney laws. Repeal pardons as illegal for Bitmex, Bitmex founders, J6ers, prosecute the Tate brothers, End the sovereign wealth fund, end all government contracts with Tesla, xAI, SpaceX and any other government subsidies Elon Musk is getting, increase hiring in the NPS, IRS, balance the budget, end all prison contracts with GEO & El Salvador, free all political prisoners, End ICE and prosecute all ICE Agents, pilots and administrators. Restore health funding for NHS HHS and CDC, and so much apologizing we need to do publicly and abroad, establish worker rights and investments into key industries and infrastructure. It is a long list of things that need to be done just to start.... but for the right leader it is not impossible. But the first person to start DOING IT and stop talking about it will basically have a party in their name for the rest of this generation's lives.

Thedrunkenmastertyle

Sure, 1-Trump himself publicly downplayed the corona virus comparing it to the flu and said it would just go away. Maybe he should have been more serious about it. 2- Trump had huge drama with his own CDC and DR.Fauci. Doesn't help that in middle of a pandemic there is politicization of FDA and CDC and you are undermining scientists. Remember ivermectin stuff? 3- He lets states do all of the work leading to very inconsistent mask rules and lockdowns.

Geruvah

Did we forget how the pandemic happened and he demonized the actual CDC and so it took way longer for us to get out of it which took years for economic recovery?

TheGoodCod

For some reason I woke up more optimistic today, lol, so I'm looking at Berkshire-B and trying to decide what part of the market will be most resilient. In the past the pharms were very good to me but they'll have to drop a lot before the CDC changes can be offset. Banks maybe? First I need to decide on today or Monday.

Millionaire007

260 million he spent to get this idiot elected just so he can have access to the United States Treasury. If his stupid ass hadn't went in to the federal government with a hatchet there wouldn't be such overwhelming negative sentiment about the economy but Elon decided 200k fulltime well paid workers should be fired on day 1. That act alone would cause contraction in the economy, nevermind the federal agencies it killed and the economic benefit of having a well staffed IRS or CDC, now they're practically defunct. Any social program is getting eliminated so there's nowhere for Americans to turn to while Tariff man kills off what little they had.  There is a VERY clear line between this chaos and Elon Musk. If you don't see it. That's because you don't want to see it.  The man is a moron stop fan boying over him.

MoneyForRent

It's a constant swing between adding safeguards and trump removing them. Last time he removed the pandemic response team right before COVID and dismantled the CDC during the current bird flu epidemic. I just don't understand the rational behind this kind of thinking, just leave the stuff that's working alone.

Spuckler_Cletus

I’ve been nibbling at VDC and CDC. Not exactly rolling the dice here, but I just gotta buy something besides VOO.

JackfruitCrazy51

No one knew early on. Remember in February of that year what happened in New York with the nursing homes? Remember when everyone said it came from a wet market? Remember when everyone bought a ton of hand sanitizer because it was spread through surfaces? Remember when the CDC not to where masks?

Commercial_Deer_7114

What do you base this on? Fauci and the CDC definetly got what they wanted done, Trump was severly disliked on the right and by people like Joe Rogan for his Operation Warpspeed to bring vaccines to as mamy people as possible and getting the vaccine himself. Like, you people are unhinged with hatred. Do you really trade stocks on this fictional reality?

DarkRooster33

Did they die with covid or from covid? aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/514915-is-us-covid-19-death-count-inflated/ i.ibb.co/nQbJBC6/zPXMSp3O.jpg CDC itself cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-1-Guidance-for-Certifying-COVID-19-Deaths.pdf >It is important to emphasise that Coronavirus Disease 19, or Covid-19, should be reported for all decedents where the disease caused or **is presumed** to have caused or contributed to death. CDC again cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf >In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, **but it is suspected or likely** (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. Other countries did that even worse defining covid death as >individuals who have died within 28 days of first positive result, whether or not COVID-19 was the cause of death Is there also even more obvious factor that speeded up their deaths? onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/obr.13128 reason.com/2022/01/03/cdc-covid-19-children-hospitalization-obesity-teenagers/ Studies about how much comorbidities they had are endless, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9508958/ Lets not forget about their age as well www.statista.com/statistics/1254488/us-share-of-total-covid-deaths-by-age-group/