CDC

hashtagbob60

No, you're ripping the CDC apart for some harebrained notion

Jewbacca522

Umm, isn’t he the one who is literally ripping apart the CDC? It’s like he forgets (on purpose) who was responsible for everything he’s pissed about. Hint: it was him.

Puckhead7166

Lol. He’s a fking idiot and so is that Whale hat wearing wacko he put in charge of the CDC

aqpulse

Trump’s post highlights a recurring tension: the lack of transparency between drug companies, regulators, and the public. 1. He argues that while companies like Pfizer have shown him “great numbers,” these results are not being shared widely with the CDC or the public. 2. He frames this as a credibility issue for both the pharmaceutical industry and Operation Warp Speed, which was central to the Covid response. 3. The post underscores growing skepticism about how pandemic data was handled and whether successes are being overstated without open verification. Regardless of political leaning, the demand for clearer disclosure of trial data and outcomes is valid. Without it, public trust in both health institutions and pharmaceutical innovation remains fragile.

uniaintshit

New CDC guidelines put road kill in the food pyramid

FaultySage

>Trump’s prior appointees that sit on the FOMC are technocrats who have not been known to cave to Trump’s pressure historically. People also forget that Powell himself is a first term Trump appointee that has resisted Trump’s pressure. Yeah, and Bolton was a member of his first term cabinet. We can't look to lessons from the first term to make future predictions here when we're 7 months in. Every unqualified, sycophantic cabinet nominee has been pushed through by the Senate. The one Senate approved appointment that got some GOP pushback and Trump caved on, the CDC director, is already out. Assume that whoever gets through will be a loyalist first.

GainzghisKahn

They just got more of it at the CDC.

Somethingclevrer2

New CDC head says you should slap all vaccinated people and eat covid farts for breakfast. Puts on health.

NewLifeInAfghanistan

Muh CDC is in disarray! Bullish for big pharma, as always

DMAgamus

RFK Jr finally taking control of the CDC, set to announce to those commie librul scientists and doctors that autism is actually cause by posting on WSB.

ManBearPig_1983

I don’t give a fuuuuuuk about the CDC. Covid was BS. All it did was cull some of those Boomers who needed to go anyway.

boskylady

What about the CDC murders he causes

Omarkhayyamsnotes

He just fired the director of the CDC for refusing to rubber stamp orders. The next person who gives a bad report about the economy? Fired!

toonguy84

Didn't RFK just first the CDC head because she was pro Covid vax? How much of PFE's value is tied to the Covid vaccine? If that's already priced in then sure but RFK seems to hate pharma and this admin takes a lot of action.

LeBhikariLe

fired DOL director, one of the fed governors, and now the CDC director... when does it stop

Me-Regarded

Sell everything, go all on Clorox CLX. If CDC is dismantled, vaccines outlawed, everyone is fired.... If a disease breaks out Clorox will be our only means of survival.

Worried_Quarter469

Who is getting fired today? BLS head ✅ Fed Reserve Governor ✅ Military leadership ✅ CDC leadership ✅ ????

1M-to-Zero

White House fires CDC director Monarez after she refuses to resign; 4 top health officials quit

Make_Moola

CDC got fired after the latest COVID scare, my company has kits ready. Sounds sus

smarglebloppitydo

It benefits rewriting the Covid pandemic narrative in a way that aligns with the presidents personal beliefs. He had egg on his face for handling the pandemic and underplaying the severity of the virus and was pressured by his voters not to require it and not to get the vaccine. This is a big middle finger to the CDC under Fauci and any government that required the vaccine. See look it’s dangerous we told you.

Rosebunse

Everyone, please remember, the CDC's zombie preparedness plans are just for fun. They're a handy thought excersise. The CDC is not actually planning for a zombie apocalypse

Y0___0Y

I only see the daily beast reporting this so far, citing one anonymous individual who is an “associate of RFK”. Not even a CDC official. I really don’t believe this yet. Who knows what kind of pudding-brained idiots are “associates of RFK Jr.”

NCRunningGal007

I agree…It’s heading down for a variety of reasons… mostly tariffs are beginning to be felt as employers had stocked up … moving towards Christmas, the cost will be higher and it IS being passed on to the consumer at a bad time… many folks have been laid off from DOGE and research hospitals/universities losing CDC/NIH-funded grants and Trump vindictively withholding my payments to universities because he feels they haven’t bowed to him enough. Companies aren’t hiring with this instability and chaos. And now a recession looks more likely. So YES the stock market is tanking - 5 days in a row of losses.

Ok_Cry7572

Americans get 55% of their calories from ultra-processed foods, the CDC has said. That explains why everyone is f'ing fat. And more importantly, sick

darodardar_Inc

did yal hear about that one guy who shot up a CDC office in Georgia bc he was antivax? pretty crazy stuff

neoikon

The census is another example... and satellites that detect greenhouse gasses and climate change, and the CDC... and and and Scientists just have the wrong alternative facts, apparently.

krakenheimen

What are you referring to?  The CDC has had the same recommended testing regiment since about 2022 - test for exposed and symptomatic, and no testing asymptomatic. 

Princess-Donutt

I am also a bit of a Hypochondriac, so it helps to put things into perspective: * Microplastics have been linked to chronic inflammation in individuals which can lead to increased risk of metabolic illness, though it's inconclusive whether at a population level they are causing significant impact on life expectancy. Confounding results is the ever-higher levels of obesity, which does have a very real impact on population longevity. * Covid reduced life expectancy primarily by all the deaths that occurred. Remember, these numbers are population statistics. Kind of like how life expectancy in the middle-ages was like mid-30's. People weren't dropping dead at 35, rather infant mortality was off the charts. Dead Infant plus dead 70-year old = 35 year life expectancy. * Annual wildfires always occurred, but yes it's a bit worse. However again, the lowering of life expectancy is due to excess deaths, primarily in individuals already experiencing substantial cardiovascular problems. Also, a place like Taiwan which has twice the average pollution index score, has 3 years longer life expectancy than the US. * Lyme disease deaths are extremely uncommon according to the CDC. That said, people inflicted with lyme disease and exhibit PTLDS has a lower quality of life, but not necessarily a shorter lifespan. Basically - let's focus on the things we **know** lower an individual's life expectancy (no smoking, no obesity, no jackass stunts), and plan to make it well into retirement.

Ok_Cry7572

Gunman in Atlanta targeted CDC headquarters, believing the COVID vaccine made him sick Honestly surprised this hadn't happened yet.

Any-Video4464

No way. They are just getting started. They are slowly but surely making their way into tons of gov agencies. # Summary Table |Agency|Area of Use| |:-|:-| |DoD (Army, Air Force, SOCOM, etc.)|Military logistics & intelligence| |CIA / NSA|Classified intelligence analysis| |DHS (ICE, CBP, FEMA)|Immigration, border, disaster response| |FBI / DEA / Marshals|Law enforcement & investigations| |HHS / CDC / VA|Healthcare, pandemic response| |DOE / IRS / Treasury|Energy, tax fraud, cybersecurity| |NASA / NGA / NRO|Space and satellite intelligence|

-Calm_Skin-

Just like the CDC or NASA withholding disease or climate data. We’ll know it’s getting bad, but won’t have a heads up to protect ourselves. It’s almost as if the government wants to destroy us.

Select_Reality_6803

CDC? Nope. NIH? Nope. EPA? Nope. WHO? Nope. If you had to pay money to be tricked into thinking the gov is your friend, they call that indoctrination not education.

DJStrongArm

This is the CDC all over again

Ntropy99

He doesn't want the truth, he wants proclamations that he is the best. Anything that doesn't make him look like the best won't be tolerated. No different than with COVID, which is why the FDA and the CDC are now full of bootlickers and not scientists at the top. So thanks Susan, he learned his lesson alright. And the Republicans keep going on with the lies. Replace Schumer now. Dems need to fight tooth and nail to stop the spread or at least the complacency for the never ending misinformation.

DONNIENARC0

idk why people think this one is political, it's been happening over a decade. > A document leaked to TechCrunch revealed that Palantir's clients as of 2013 included at least 12 groups in the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. > On June 18, 2010, Vice President Joe Biden and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag held a press conference at the White House announcing the success of fighting fraud in the stimulus by the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB). Biden credited the success to the software, Palantir, being deployed by the federal government.[30] He announced that the capability would be deployed at other government agencies, starting with Medicare and Medicaid.

fheathyr

I wonder if the Australian health system is ready. Increases in E. Coli )157:H7. Increased Salmonella and Listeria. Increases in antibacterial resistences. Increases in AMR pathogens such as resistant Salmonelle. Hormone disruption caused by the excessive uncontrolled use of estrogen, progesterone and testosterone analogs banned outside America since the 80s. And let's not forget increases colorectal, pancreatic, and prostate cancer! They make elevated LDL cholesterol, heart disease and increases in type 2 diabetes seem minor. The CDC estmates that approximately 48 million people get sick in America yearly due to the beef they eat. No wonder Trump wants to silence the CDC. I wonder if Australia will simply receive the beef, then dump it somewhere ... it'd be better for them.

imadork1970

With the gutting of the CDC and EPA, the cows will be better to withstand disease than people. Winning?

thewimsey

You invest in companies. Not idea like "autonomous vehicles". Warren Buffett has mentioned in a couple of speeches that in 1900, *everyone* knew that the 20th C was going to be the year of the automobile. And they were 100% correct. But there were 2000 auto companies in the US in 1900...so which ones do you invest in? Because there were only about 5 by the 1950's, and only three by 2000. And the surviving ones weren't always the best investments. In the 1920's and '30's, there were 400 aircraft companies - so, again, which ones do you invest in? It's 1975 and you know the computer will be the future of tech. IBM has ~70% of the market. Do you invest all of your money in IBM? Or do you spread it around to the other leading computer companies: DEC, Sperry-Rand, CDC, Honeywell, Burroughs, NCR, etc.? Buffett's actual advice (and I'm not sure how useful it is) was that you can't really pick winners, but you can pick losers - if you know that the automobile is going to become the dominant new technology, you short horses. Although I'm not really sure that you can short horses..

SadDevelopment3049

Anyone else debating whether to sell their sarepta put or hold in hopes CDC ends clinical trials?

thatkid1010101

Craziest stat I learned today: 33% of Americans between 12 and 17 are pre-diabetic, according to CDC statistics.

looool_k_libtard

ATLANTA (AP) — U.S. is having its worst year for measles spread in more than three decades, CDC says. Wonder why that is

Ok-Detective-5687

I literally joked and asked my doctor this and he rec’d camel unfiltered 3 packs a day. Also all the bacon I can eat. And alcohol without moderation. (After we talked about what is happening with boofin Bobby and the CDC)

FujitsuPolycom

They'll eventually train this out or remove the peer research. See: NIH, CDC, NOAA, etc.

ResistEfficiently

Oh aren't you just adorable with your state media talking points! 🤣 1. Culling is standard department of agriculture policy, and has been since long before Biden, and is the exact same policy currently under your fuhrer. Since the current bird flu outbreak began in February 2022, approximately 166 million birds have been culled as part of these efforts. While the majority of these culls occurred during the Biden presidency, it's obviously because the outbreak started while Biden in office. This iSnT rOcKeT sCiEnCe. The policy and practice of depopulation have continued unchanged under the current administration, and an estimated 13 million birds were affected since February. 2. Egg prices are down 14% in the last couple months. They are still up 41% from where they were in 2024. They're currently still projected to raise 20% in 2025. 3. All Trump has done is kneecap the USDA and the FDA, pulled money from a program that was creating an avian flu vaccine, and fired thousands of their employees with their fake ass doge nonsense, (whom there are now struggling to hire back). Also the CDC has been instructed to no longer file reports on avian flu. Is this the "proactive addressing" of the problem you were speaking of? Fucking clown. I don't know how you find time to be condescending with all that orange dick in your mouth.

BirthdayWaste9171

I know hard to believe your trusted leader was inept. Under Biden, the USDA failed to proactively address the spread of H5N1 virus leading to the rampant spread of the disease and subsequent mass cullings from 2022-2024 nearly 150 million birds were unalived…most of which were egg laying hens. This policy of mass culling even when only a few cases were dedicated lead to entire flocks being eradicated. And shocker the increase in egg prices. Now that mass cullings are no longer the “suggested” approach egg prices are declining with increased production. Not rocket science people. Source: American Farm Bureau and CDC.

iReallyDontLikeSpez

Thanks, I try to engage in good faith and not sound like my hair is on fire - doesn't always work lol. I agree my reasoning is speculative, but at least the whistleblower claims at DOJ and the CDC/HHS stuff has been reported by NYT and others so I trust it. I just put myself in that team's place and think "if it's my family's ability to not be homeless or this dumb report that WSB is gonna ignore just to buy more calls", I unfortunately think I know which I'd pick.

iReallyDontLikeSpez

Can't speak for BLS specifically but reclassifying all employees as Schedule F (political appointees) removes most labor protections so govt employees now have significant risk to their jobs for not aligning with policy. DOJ whistleblowers report significant push to defy judges in line with political policy from DJT. CDC/HHS scientists overruled by political appointees over COVID shot recommendations. Huge numbers of layoffs mean everyone is pulling double duty just to keep above water. It doesn't take a huge leap or even a small step to see how these numbers could get messed up just based on overworked employees alone, but combine that with the fear of reprisal (from a Prez who strongly cares about these numbers in particular for his economic image) and I think it gets real hard to trust these.

Diligent_Fox_9072

It's called monkey pox, you queer. Biden's CDC tried forcing another vax on everyone for that too

spendology

JNJ has a new HIV pill...we just need the CDC to approve so you can C Deez Nutz!! 🥜

arcaias

Which was allowed to spread due to reduced CDC funding, which was his call...

FujitsuPolycom

Tax payer money for medicaid to help the tax payer? Nope. Science and medicine research? Nope. Forestry and parks staff? Nope. CDC? NIH? Nasa? Nope. Golden dome.

ByahhByahh

I can't believe RFK Jr named Joe Rogan as a member of the CDC vaccine panel.

Redfield11

Sick people spend more money than nearly anyone else, and lower FDA/CDC regulations typically benefits companies. I cannot tell you how big a stamp "EU grade" is for baby formula which pretty much tells you what you need to know about the priorities hahasadhaha

YoWifesOtherBF

You think it is too far fetched? Measles on the rise, CDC got scrappped, pulling out of WHO.

lordofming-rises

Didn't they fire all CDC in the US. They are going to get nice outbreaks

Happy_Discussion_536

>RFK Jr. removes all current members of CDC vaccine advisory committee Mfer trying to kill WSB?

Spy300

>BREAKING: US Health Secretary RFK Jr. has removed all members of the CDC panel advising the US on vaccines.

cutiesarustimes2

BREAKING: US Health Secretary RFK Jr. has removed all members of the CDC panel advising the US on vaccines. Mrna to $0?

Hot-Adhesiveness-438

I would just note that with the DoL being the source of information and reporting directly to the Administration, we may not know the truth of the matter. 🤷 I know, its impossible to think theyd adjust data of official records ... https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/13/nx-s1-5297177/cdc-scientists-publications-trump-administration Authors who've submitted manuscripts are being instructed to ask journal editors to withdraw them if they are in conflict with Trump's executive order on gender and "cannot be adjusted to align with EO requirements," according to the memo. If some of the other authors aren't federal employees, CDC authors are "advised to request to withdraw their names from the author line."

JimJimmery

The CDC is doing this because of Kennedy. It did not go through the normal CDC process.

Recent_Afternoon_714

The CDC rec for pregnant women and children actually happened, so not sure where the untruth is?

HermitSlab

Yeah that’s what Ive been hearing ever since the COVID vaccine. And now look? The CDC even removed it being recommended for infants and pregnant women…apparently it’s way more dangerous than they told you.

Spankynpetey

RFK jr wasn’t part of any vaccine development. He’s an anti-vax lunatic. The vaccine programs were in Trump 1.0 and RFK Jr wasn’t part still wandering around Samoa peddling conspiracy theories about the MMR vaccine in 2019 that caused 83 measles death in the following outbreak. He’s a menace to society. The CDC has refused to follow his lunacy in their childhood vaccine recommendations released Friday. I expect there will be mass firings there this week.

JohnMayerSpecial

And as the CDC itself pointed out, it isn’t safe enough to recommend to everyone. I don’t care if it’s more temp stable

JohnMayerSpecial

Approved for 65+ “as well as individuals aged 12-64 years with at least one or more underlying risk factor as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)” So they’ll only let you take it if you’re already fucked up, hardly a ringing endorsement

lexi_con

In all, the increased decay and boosted dental costs would disproportionately affect children who are in low-income families, in rural areas, and/or on public health insurance. The study's findings are likely unsurprising to those in the public health community, who have consistently supported fluoridation. The practice, however beneficial, has a long history of being under attack. After its introduction in the US in 1945, conspiracy theorists claimed fluoridation was a communist plot and a form of government mind control. More recently, critics have claimed that fluoridation lowers IQ. The data linking water fluoridation to low IQ is controversial. Many of the studies on the topic are of poor quality and have numerous confounding factors and flawed methods. Many compare IQ levels in communities in China and other countries, where there are areas with water that is naturally high in fluoride—much, much higher than what is intentionally added to US water. Further, a federal meta-analysis—a type of study that aggregates and reanalyzes data from independent studies—has been plagued by criticism for bias, poor statistical methods, and a lack of data transparency. But despite the controversy, one thing is clear in all the data and debate: Any possible association with low IQ and fluoridation only occurs at excessive levels—levels more than twice the amount used in the US and recommended by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC recommendation for water fluoridation levels is 0.7 mg/L, while potential harms are not observed until water levels exceed 1.5 mg/L. Some areas in China have natural levels as high as 11.8 mg/L. The authors of the new study conclude that, at current US levels, the benefits are clear. "These findings suggest that, despite the potential harms of excessive fluoride exposure, fluoridation at safe levels offers both individual and societal benefits that would be at risk."

teamyg

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the obesity rate in the United States in 2021-2023 was40.3%. This means that approximately 40% of adults in the U.S. were classified as obese. If we can't lower the cost of healthcare, then 10X grocery prices might be another way out. 

DistrictPleasant

Ohhh gotcha! 20 years ago most grants were "direct" (Project Specific) that universities would submit RFAs or NOFOs to apply for grants. These grants have super specific guidelines. Grants were super competitive and usually issued by like the DoD, NASA, DoE, or CDC. Now a larger portion of grants are "indirect" (Block Grants). These are non competitive and automatically awarded to institutions. The idea behind these grants is to do research on longer time frames, but what often happens is that there is a ton of waste because the scope of the research isnt specific.

j4ckbauer

If the tariffs were collected by the National Endowment for the Arts or the CDC I would be inclined to think they'd use the court ruling to stop collecting them. Since this is CBP we're talking about...

Sounders12

When the court decided the CDC had no authority to impose mask mandates on airplanes, did they undo the obstacles two year olds and their parents had to endure when they were kicked off the plane? The damage is already done.

unhappyreach_

>Cases linked to the NB.1.8.1 variant have been reported in arriving international travelers at airports in California, Washington state, Virginia and the New York City area, according to records uploaded by the CDC's airport testing partner Ginkgo Bioworks. Are we really doing this again

StrengthDazzling8922

Don’t worry CDC won’t be testing for it.

LongTermStocks

Telomir Pharmaceuticals (TELO) continues to expand its potential portfolio and just announced that it had identified Telomir-Ag2 as a novel drug candidate for the treatment of bacterial infections. According to the company, Telomir-Ag2 is a stabilized Silver(II) complex that, in preclinical testing, showed broad-spectrum antimicrobial activity, including against MARSA (methicillin- and aminoglycoside-resistant *Staphylococcus aureus).* According to the CDC, MARSA is a drug-resistant variant responsible for infections in hospitals and in the US causes over 323,000 hospitalizations and more than 10,000 deaths per year. According to Verified Market Research the silver wound dressing market is expected to reach $1.36 billion by 2030, while the antimicrobial coatings market is expected to reach $33.7 billion by 2031.

Huskies971

When people start looking at this administration as a reality TV show everything makes sense. It's all about appearance nothing is real. Trump signs an EO to investigate IVF costs calls himself the father of IVF. Then at the same time guts government IVF researchers investigating infertility at the CDC.

onetwoskeedoo

I wish the NIH and CDC big wigs had a spine and reject the EOs

GroundbreakingFun295

You're fundamentally wrong. Firstly, it was his administration that wanted to PARTIALLY restrict borders because he wanted to downplay the pandemic. People called for the border to close so it didn't reach the US because they were terrified of what COVID has done in China. When he realized things were serious, he took the opportunity to call it "his decision" to close the border. He made many contradictory claims and handled the pandemic like a bump in the road. The CDC issued warnings early that December, but Covid hadn’t reached the US yet. You know what he said when the first person reached here positive with COVID??? “Oh, we’re fine, it’s just one person.” Not to mention Covid itself was an undocumented strain that NO doctor was prepared for, much less had vaccines. So undermining a whole new illness was genuinely his fault and he did not stay neutral like you claim.

ToaPaul

And who gutted the CDC and infectious disease cintrol early into his first term? Oh wait, agent 🍊. "You should review history" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5468112/

Less-Procedure-4104

It was on CNN I saw it real time. You should maybe review the history , blaming agent 🍊 for the WHO and CDC mismanagement is a bit crazy. By the why I think your response is a weird take because you have no counter just the ad homenin attack of weird. Hey I think it is weird ,so what . I think it is weird everyone still blames agent 🍊 for a total and absolute failure of the medical system. Not a fan but also not his fault.

Theomach1

The CDC is biased? I injured myself rolling my eyes so hard.

Vast-Salt9399

With all respect, the APHA is funded by the CDC; and omission and obvious conflict of interest that leave the rest of your post suspect in the least and undoubtedly biased in the worst. Perhaps this fact is a revelation, but I’d assume not considering how well informed, well articulated, and properly researched the rest of your response has been formulated. All of which I can and do appreciate; it would just seem on this matter we are in opposition.

Patient_Sea_3753

Cut CDC funds and get another pandemic to return to affordable gas

_Please

The stock price rocketed under Biden, could you clarify how that was controlled by Trump and a mastermind insider trading scheme? Just check the chart since IPO to 2025... >A document leaked to TechCrunch revealed that Palantir's clients as of 2013 included at least twelve groups within the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. However, at the time, the United States Army continued to use its own data analysis tool.[^(\[31\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#cite_note-tebtecnchrun-31) Also, according to TechCrunch, the U.S. spy agencies such as the CIA and FBI were linked for the first time with Palantir software, as their databases had previously been siloed.[^(\[31\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#cite_note-tebtecnchrun-31) Somehow they've been given so many contracts by other administrations to grift. So many that I can't even link them, my comment goes beyond the max accepted length. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir\_Technologies#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#) If you think every shitty company with shitty fundamentals is an insider trading scheme... well you might be new to the market. This is not the first, nor is it new. Enjoy your stay and remember this simple quote, "the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent"

fritopendejo42069

Lmao and who’s going to do that? NIOSH and CDC have been gutted. Starbase’s local health department? Don’t count on it.

Realanise1

In the short run: The market will go way up, obviously. In the long run: The economy in general will fall into a recession for other reasons. One of the biggest reasons has been brought up here before, but not often enough: Trump and co are doing their best to destroy many areas of science in the US. More specifically, public health is being absolutely trashed in *many* specific ways. The long term economic consequences of taking away all that research and development and innovation and new products are massive. The medium term consequences will probably include a human H5N1 pandemic with effects that are much, much more severe than they need to be. There are many reasons why the 1918-1920 pandemic caused more death and devastation than any of the others in the past century or so, but one of the largest is that there was no public health system as we would understand it today. No CDC, no coordination between local health systems, no NIH etc. The lack of effective public health may actually have been more of a factor than the lack of antivirals or antibiotics for secondary infections. And some of these consequences of that earlier pandemic were of course economic ones.

AnalystNatural5682

So the unwoken genius' are cutting 60% of the CDC budget 4 years after a pandemic. Stock up on masks now wokies.

jrex035

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Trump administration is all about short term gain for longterm pain. Pinching pennies on the budgets of NASA, NIH, CDC, FDA, NOAA, FEMA, the DOE, the National Parks Service, etc save us practicaly nothing in the short run, but will completely fuck our R&D, cripple longterm economic growth, and send future costs related to public health skyrocketing. Its the equivalent of stripping the copper wiring from your house to help pay for your 3rd Lamborghini. The people proposing these plans dont give a shit, they'll be dead before the consequences of these policies are truly felt. There's an ancient saying that goes "a society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they will never sit." We're doing the complete fucking opposite, ensuring that the rich and the old can enjoy unsustainable prosperity at the expense of future generations.

expensive_hammer

Guy I know got RIF'd from the CDC. Offered to refer him to a remote tech position, 6 figure comp plus bonus and stock options, radio silence  Job market must be booming. Bullish 

narrowant341

New WH budget-WaPo INCREASES -> \- $1 trillion in military spending, 13% jump \- $43 billion increase to DHS \- More charter school money CUTS --> \- $4 billion to Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program \- $3.5 billion to CDC \- $18 billion to NIH \- $670 million to "program management" at Centers for Medicare & Medicaid \- $2.5 billion cut to EPA's clean and drinking water loan fund \- $646 million cut to FEMA (admin says "non-disaster" programs), $650 million cut to shelter and services program \- 24% cut to NASA, space launch rocket, Orion, and other programs cancelled. [Link](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/02/white-house-budget-proposal-2026/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social) 

Slight-Recipe-3762

Well, we cut funding to the CDC we all might get it

hackingdreams

> It is just built around words that Trump likes the sound of. It's built around making sure the US's economic footing in the world falters, so that BRICS can pick it up. There's no rational way you can look at what's happening and say that it's good for America. But it's *fantastic* for China, and it's pretty damn good for Russia after years of sanctions and the falling Ruble. You look around this administration and it's like we let the terrorists run things. US science leadership? Wrecking ball. The CDC? Let's put a guy with literal brain worms in charge, what's the worst that can happen? The economy? Tariffs baby, let's rip up every trade relationship we have in the entire world! The US dollar should survive just fine... Everywhere you look... it's bad for America.

MixGlittering1652

He'll blame Biden or Obama for any bad news for the next four years and probably longer. I have a feeling he'll blame the next hurricane or flood on Biden's disastrous climate policies. I'm surprised he hasn't told us the avian flu was released by a CDC lab during Biden's watch and that's why we ended up with high egg prices. Biden's fault, right?

iamcoolstephen1234

This happened during his last term, too. Only it was his followers saying this. The market goes up in the final weeks of Obama's presidency, continuing the trend from the previous 6 years, and his followers gave Trump credit because the market "was excited for his presidency." Then he cuts regulations and departments for public health to "streamline" national health teams, including the team responsible for pandemic preparedness. Then Covid comes it all goes to shit because they are unprepared. Then they blame Obama for not preparing for covid. The CDC repeatedly tries to get people to understand the danger from covid and communicates how to respond. Trump calls it a hoax. His followers call it a hoax and fucking die to protect their savior. And the market keeps crashing. Republicans spend the next four years convincing the public that "no one knew it would be that bad." And now we have them back. Buckle up.

RebelWithoutAClue

Way back at the beginning of CoV-19 someone noticed that China's new infection reports were very closely following a parabolic function. This stuck out because uncontrolled infections tend to rise according to an exponential function. It became clear that they weren't reporting actual new infection numbers, but were reporting a fairly simplistic mathematical lie. At some point Trump got annoyed at the CDC regularly reporting increasingly ugly numbers so he legislatively disconnected it from hospital new infection reports. All the data would go through the Dept of Health and Human Services (DoHHS), a federal department under is direct control. DoHHS would magically begin reporting constant new infection numbers. An ever increasing slope would be replaced by a flat horizontal line. That Xi would use a mathematically more complex lie than Trump could indicate an asymmetry in mathematical skill between the leaders. It could also indicate that the two leaders have constituencies which require different level of complexity in the lies it will accept. If we were to accept that constituencies are compelled by their leaders (definitionally), then it would follow that their leaders are providing narratives that pass muster with their constituencies. Like it or not, there are a lot of voters who don't do a lot of math. Have you done any math yourself to weigh the statements that you are compelled by?

menghis_khan08

I’m a cancer research her who has watched half my colleagues get furloughed bc the NIH/NCI has been dissolved. That’s not political theater that’s a breaking of a fundamental federal institution that provides a service (academic biomedical research) for the greater good. And you could say the same thing about dep of education, VA hospitals, national park services, the CDC, etc

swordquest99

The impact of the DOGE layoffs is likely going to be larger than an equal number of layoffs under “normal” conditions because of the disproportionately high number of unionized professionals among the people laid off by DOGE many of whom cannot transfer their skills, experience and training to an equal paying job in the private sector. For example if you were an epidemiologist with the CDC or an ecologist for the Park Service or Interior or many of the other folks working good jobs who are now potentially going to only be able to find work that pays much less.

CarbonatedCoins

Tbf that is the prevailing theory at the moment. DOD stated active personnel in Wuhan got sick at the military games with what they suspected was Covid a few months before the outbreak officially happened at the wet market. The area that held the games is next to the Wuhan virology institute and other government and public facilities and the area was on quarantine/lockdown even then. Theres also the fact that most everyone agreed Covid was made in a lab in the FOIA’d email exchange among NIH and CDC senior staff then a phone call is scheduled by Fauci and everyone in the email chain changes their mind. It also doesn’t help that the Germans and Israelis also believe it came from a lab. And the Germans have a far more amicable relationship with China.

gkdjsl

First year is brutal, would be better off letting the toddlers chill at a CDC lab with rubber hammers

RonaldWRailgun

Different points to be made, yes, realistically going straight from this to Auschwitz is an exaggeration. On the other hand, there were plenty of people on either side of the war, that even in the thick of it, genuinely believed that reports of mass exterminations were "exaggerations". But finally, these kind of medical studies are better left to professionals (doctors, researchers, etc.) that, with all their shortcomings and with all their bad apples, at least have a basic grasp of ethics. I don't want "politicians" (and that's being generous, since we're talking about Trump & Co.) to start studying medical records and come up with conclusions, which are going to be by definition biased by their own political views. Especially if you consider that these are the same people trying to oppose and defund the CDC and the health department in any way they possibly can. What could possibly go wrong.

Clittle93

The ADDM Network has been tracking ASD since 2000, providing a historical context for understanding changes in prevalence. Data from the ADDM Network is used to estimate the number of 8-year-old children with ASD in various communities. CDC also offers resources like the "Learn the Signs. Act Early." program and the Milestone Tracker mobile app to support early identification and tracking of developmental milestones in children.

BarryDeCicco

I know a friend whose father was at the fringes of this. Basically, the CDC and Dept of Agriculture maintain field offices all over the world, to act as advanced scout for future threats. Compared to the problems that outbreaks can cause, this is cheap. But Trump knows better.........