DOW

Wheres-my-dividend

NASDICK flat, S&PP dogshit, DOW cowshit

Internal_Resident_15

There will be no 're-rating' of the sector. S3 is meaningless for almost all - since they're weren't paying anyways. Mass bankruptcies coming. Its not the worst sector in the history of the market for nothing - and will continue to be so. Put whatever multiple you want on 'effective zero' valuations. This doesn't even account for mass opportunity cost with years of waiting, already in the past, while DOW soared, and years waiting to come.

fightthefascists

Do yourself a favor and look at the DOW 10 year chart….. how often does it go down? Not that often right? And when it does it’s extremely sharp and extremely fast. Trying to time sell offs is the number one thing that wipes people out trading options. It’s like 1 out of 10 chance. So stay the fuck away from puts. Pretend they don’t exis.

Zaxly

Wall Street is over inflated in spades. We got out and glad we did. Some investors are heading toward precious metals and bit coin. Is that wise? Don’t know. Maybe buying land is safer. Anything other than cash, the DOW or NASDAC.

JanetYellenNudes

Quiet grandpa no one knows what DOW is

HugeAd5056

I agree to disagree on this. I’ve done the math. If you worked with real numbers instead of hypotheticals we might be having a different look at this (i.e. current cost of long term puts you’re suggesting on Russell or that DOW actually drops more than QQQ other than when the UNH drop shocked the index as compared with how cheap SQQQ calls actually are).

nmahmood56

I closed my covered call short option on DOW. How long do I need to wait to sell Dow stock at a loss to avoid wash sale?

burnemnturnem

Invest in Canadian banks, energy, Shopify. They ain’t going anywhere. DOW Jones can plow rocks 

d33p7r0ubl3

Time to get out those DOW 50,000 caps

EvolvingDior

DOW > SPX > NDX -- not really a tech rally.

Emergency-Fee7411

Let’s give this man his due. He beat the DOW by 706% today. Applause!!! HODL on friend No one ever achieved a damn thing without optimism

GoZukkYourself

GOLD - new ATH SILVER - new ATH S&P 500 - near ATH NASDAQ - near ATH DOW - new ATH 🌽 - 30% down from ATH

blackdog543

Well, we know you didn't buy Bitcoin...lol. My mostly DOW 30 and some smaller companies and banks is up 5.9%. Or I'm up 90k this year. No I don't own Nvidia, MU, or AMD, wish I did.

vermilli21

IWM and DOW closed in the middle. Honestly it’s a toss up going into next week

Fineous40

I shot the VIX but I did not shoot the DOW.

UFuked

I want a -50% DOW black Friday! Give me Armageddon!!!

IslandExact429

I don’t think so None of the winners this year have been juiced And the big losers in the DOW have yet to be cracked

PutVivid6052

Lmfao. DOW always gets rekt twice as much as any other index on a down turn but only ever goes up at the same pace. Only a true retard would chose that as their index of choice.

sNeKbIt99

That and the DOW. Prolly some other AI trades like CLS.

sNeKbIt99

Volatility next level today. DOW swinging 200 points back and forth.

Minnow720

18% for the year for S&P. 14% DOW

zxc123zxc123

OP talking in years but the market is up this year with: * S&P500 +14.3% * DOW +12.5% * QQQ +17.5% * R2K +11.87% * Gold +67.74% * Silver +128.27% * Markets in Korea, Germany, Canada, Japan, UK, and most of the world outperforming the US. * Single family homes still chonking up * Cash ~4% Sounds like a still issue. Like how the fuck do you even lose money this year unless you're a 🌈🐻.

-spartacus-

Didn't the DOW just hit a new record this or last week? And yeah, the markets have always been a joke, I don't think the fundamentals support the gains since last year but staying out of the market cost me a bunch, though I didn't lose money.

Greenzombie04

Nasdaq +18% this year. S&P +15% this year. DOW +12% this year. Crazy how its up this year when you say its always down.

OrdinaryMix4013

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in NASDAQ NIGHT OPERATIONS , and I’ve been involved in numerous TRADES ON DOW, and I have over 300 confirmed TRADES. I am trained in gorilla ALGO TRADING and I’m the top TRADER in the entire US stock market.

jpk195

🥭 update today: changing Department of War (DOW) to Department Of Offense we like offense DOn’t we fOlks (DOODOO)

MorrisseysRubiksCube

Shares: LYB, DOW, CAG.

Me-Regarded

He can do a lot. One thing up for review is changing the name DOW to DON

deviltrombone

His full title is, Always-Grinning Monkey Kevin Hassett, author of "DOW 36,000", in which he predicted the DOW would reach that level within a couple of years, published in, wait for it... 1999.

hv876

DOW futes pumping 100 point like anyone cares about it.

TickTockTaudit

Nah. We’re cooling off for a couple days while they hunt stop losses and pretend the Russell matters the DOW isn’t nitro gay.

West_Fruit6959

One of the reasons S&P DOW and nasdaq keep rising is because they increase the money supply which causes inflation. Your buying power is worth less but these companies hold their value or increase their value being tied to many assets other than dollars. There is no better place to put your dollars than these indexes because they employ the smartest people in the world and if the dollar decreases they always increase. Picking winners and losers is tough because emotions take place. Buy the indexes and don’t look back.

Bam2458

Uhh friendship with NASDAQ has ended, DOW JONES is new best friend..?

MorrisseysRubiksCube

Probably don't count as defensive, but I like LYB and DOW at current prices. They are part of the oil & gas mafia, the current administration will save them if they get too distressed.

optimaleverage

The DOW did. The S&P is still a little ways off from a new ATH, as is the nasdaq.

Think-Project-227

Did you listen to the con call? Hock Tan may be a brilliant engineer, but he’s not the one that should be talking for the company. Or could just be everyone is jumping off AI again for DOW stocks given oracle’s quarter, which IMO is not reflective of what’s in the pipeline and what’s coming

TJMBeav

You are not going to see this banner often: DOW +650, Russel: + 1.25% S&P flat, Ndaq -100 and $BTC -1200

financiallythriving

Chad DOW mogging NASDAQ https://preview.redd.it/b5pyvdpy4m6g1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d15ef9ca2159c4def62d7caa29191c80bf0bb93

Beneficial-Resist703

I would not have guessed DOW and Russell would make a new ATH before Nasdaq

707Cashcow

DOW up over 550 leading the Santa Rally - Nasdaq to follow 🧑‍🎄

EnjoyNaturesTrees

You bet against Donald Trump, the President who only measures how he is doing by the DOW.

Sick0h

DOW rippin

RIVNMoonMe

DOW is meaningless

Feeling_Syllabub_270

I only buy DOW

joepierson123

That's true but historically the DOW performance is very similar to the S&P 500 index.  S&P 500 index is weighted by market cap, which also has its problems.  There are S&P 500 indexes that are weighted by pure average no one stock has more influence than the other

vt2k

The DOW is dumb. It only gets talked about because it was the OG of stock market indexes. Personally I only pay attention to the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq Composite.

StatisticalMan

It is ancient. Started in the days when all this was computed by hand. There is no reason for anyone to look at or consider the DOW for anything but it limps onward due to inertia. You would be a better investor by simply ignoring that it even exists.

Natural_Storm7439

The DOW lost about 7% in ‘22. Look it up.

Samjabr

DOW sinking...

Rootlevelprivileges

DOW implementing Gemini? BULLISH?

Nefarious_AI_Agent

DOW is such a POS its supposed to carry us today

tugrulthelol

Lmao SPY, QQQ, and DOW were all just -0.45% wtf, completely equal

MorrisseysRubiksCube

BASF, DOW and LYB are all sucking wind right now. The sector is down as a whole. My opinion is that won’t last, but I don’t know anything in my opinion has no value.

MorrisseysRubiksCube

LYB and DOW shares. Loom out to 5+ years. I don't think the world is about to stop using chemicals and plastics. I think there's good money to be made here. https://preview.redd.it/ck73upwwnk5g1.png?width=1148&format=png&auto=webp&s=20a627ca6d3a5e2457bfba919725be92ccaeb55b

Fineous40

I only buy shares in the DOW because I’m a bitch.

Teekay53

My apologies, next time. I’ll still hold this one , selling the feb calls soon. I’m currently looking into LEAPS on boomer stocks . Value stocks. Still an AI growth play, I only play AI. I’m thinking maybe DOW. I initially wanted IWD but they have low liquidity at 10% OTM

tugrulthelol

One of those regarded days where QQQ is flat and DOW is pumping

Rexultdis

What is going on with the DOW?

Boys4Ever

Index based such as tied to broader market, tech or semiconductors how I roll. Individual stock carry too much risk unless blue chip with large cash reserves and history of innovating to stave off competition. Apple and Microsoft come to mind and yet holding QQQ contains both. ETFs the easiest I've found to diversify yet know they will rebalance if components underperform and need to be switched like happened in the DOW with NVDIA. Keep It Simple

PersonalityFluid67

Over the next 5yrs, DOW will outperform NVDA, no doubt. Google stole your lunch Nvidia. (And I'm a big fan of materials [nailed MP from 20 before Gov stake, but sold way early...🫤])

PersonalityFluid67

Kohl's cash gonna be worth more than AMD by year end. DOW is better than AMD. Cheaper in terms of straight cost & def P/E. Nevermind dividend. If ya think materials aren't play, see MP

WickOfDeath

What do you think? Googles TPU thing is apaprently cheaper and far less energy hungry than the Nvidia AI things. That's Deepseek 2.0 and Michael B. has possibly just guessed that one day or another Nvidia is toast. Huawei is planning an AI chip, so Qualcomm does. AMD makes TPUs as well... so what? We still have Nvidias order book. I am currently moving away from native tech stocks, they all carry the "AI disease" in them I now trade the DOW industrial (DJIA)

ahmetahaydemir

I think other sectors in SPY and DOW saved the sentiment for QQQ today :) Could have been a really bad day; now it is just a weird ok day.

Nefarious_AI_Agent

Why does the DOW always ruin the party?

neutralpoliticsbot

its bizzare only a few years ago we were joking about DOW 30,000 hats and now we are about to wear DOW 50,000 hat. https://cdnph.upi.com/pv/upi/01596369abe23753dcacae3c43e59649/NYSE-DOW-30000.jpg

Me-Regarded

Weekend DOW mooning. Ber fuk is not coping, it's just fact

NewLeafBahr

The similarities between 1929 and 2025 are so precise that it's almost like watching history repeat. In 1929 valuations reached never before seen extremes, P/E of DOW Jones reached 33, which we are seeing mirrored now in S&P 500 at P/E of 28. The public in 1929 believed that new technology such as electricity, radio, and the automobile had created a permanent new economy where old valuation rules no longer applied. "This time is different!" No, it wasn't. People are saying the same thing now with AI, like the fundamentals just no longer matter and that the line can only go up. It took *25 years* for the market to recover to previous levels following the Great Depression. Even if we assume recovery would come quicker when the current bubble pops, you're still looking at a decade or more before you bounce back from the loss, even if you hold long. In 1929, margin debt reached record levels which forced people to liquidate at the worst prices when margin calls came, so better hope you're not trading on margin right now if holding long is the strategy. Margin debt was a huge contributor to the 1929 crash. In 2025, margin debt as a percentage of GDP is at similar levels. But modern leverage extends beyond traditional margin accounts. Options trading by retail investors has exploded, people are using credit cards to buy stocks, companies are borrowing money to buy back their own shares at inflated prices. The leverage in the system is everywhere, hidden in derivatives, options, and debt structures. Wealth inequality in 1929 reached extremes (top 1% control 25% of total income) that weren't seen again until you guessed it, now. This concentration means, just like it did in 1929, that the economy depends on a small handful of wealthy individuals to continue spending and investing. I could go on but this is already really long. TL;DR, inverted yield curve is an indicator with zero false positives over the past century. But it's just one indicator in a sea of shit just waiting for cascade.

EmpathyFabrication

Unfortunately when companies pay a dividend it becomes built into the premium and anything beyond constantly raising the dividend is intolerable for investors and you have a situation like you see with DOW and also KMI is another example of this from another sector. For the most part I think in modern dividend investing you can just hope to buy in low and capture price appreciation plus the dividend to have a buffer from future dividend cuts

salty0waldo

I used to be in $DOW but sold a few quarters ago, cash flow was and still sorta is a mess. I was in $LYB for a shot-time but exited after last quarter once there was a bounce. Both commodity names are in a tough place, and I want to own them but they need to cut those dividends. $LYB has been stacking cash for a few years so they can sustain for a bit longer but from a business execution standpoint its just really bad to be selling off assets (even if non-core) and issuing more debt. If next quarter they give better outlook then might jump in. $LYB is yielding over 12% which is kinda insane. I have been eyeing $CC, $SOLS, $Q, $EMN, $DD, and $CTVA lately but haven't pulled the trigger. $CC is only expecting \~4% top line growth next year; however, they have improved operations and balance sheet that its fairly undervalued here. They primarily deal in refrigerants which competes against $SOLS. $DD just spun-off its electronics division into $Q which I was looking over its business the other weekend. I haven't put a thumb on what fair value is yet.

EmpathyFabrication

I'm also watching DOW and LYB. I don't think chemicals are going to recover until China stops oversupply though

drew-gen-x

I have been so focused on this AI bubble that I forgot that I was going to buy $DOW and $MOS. I still might next week. It's possible this might turn into a simple market rotation instead of market sell-off.

DaxsonJart

DOW futures made a 4 standard deviation move from the average price...hmmmmmm

Health_Code_T

WMT joining the NASDAQ is honestly a lark. Smells like an attempt to diversify the Qs, whose whole purpose is to be tech heavy. Why dont we just put Neflix into the DOW?

JiffyMcPop

Is it true if you match the DOW with inflation we’re actually doing much worse?

cghffbcx

Check, similar to the DOW hitting those $10,000 marks 10, 20, 30 each is less significant.

raisedeyebrow4891

Mag 7 and DOW 30

AntoniaFauci

DOW from +700 to -300 in a flash is... something.

Erra0

DOW struggling to stay green while S&P rockets lmao

Blade3colorado

The reason is that a large % of the S&P 500; NASDAQ; and, DOW are buoyed/supported by the Mega caps, e.g., NVDA, AMZN, META, etc. Simply go see how they are doing this last week and you will know exactly why the stock market is down the last couple of weeks. As they go . . . the market goes. 'Nuff said.

Hugebigheavyd

I think when he says every company would be affected he means every company. This is because the over investment in AI and loss of that investment that could have funded other companies is a permanent deletion. That is exactly what happened during the tech bubble. The DOW Jones lost 37 percent of value while NASDAQ lost 78%. It has broader market implications that will affect everyone including private equity investment going forward.

Substantial-Rip-2399

DOW is down over 400, NASDAQ also down 300. Market is backwards still. explains a lot.

WickOfDeath

Ask the CBOE about affilated brokers... check the FINRA poison list... there are two, three other web sites they rate brokers in terms of "dot com bubble survival" "2009 survival", "2011 survival", "2020 survival" etc But before you explore options as income strategie, go into a casino. Because there you have defined chances to gain or loose but with options you dont. The safer the strategie is, the less you earn and at a certain point in time you may ask yourself why you dont put your money in three good performing ETF, QQQ (the S&P500 ETF) or a DOW ETF, emerging markets ETF and FTSE100 ETF and if you're in the US, some treasures. They yield at least 4%, that's safe money.

doublegg83

Yup. DOW going to 27000. Hold on to your hats!.

Zoriontsu

I guess you are not an old enough investor to have witnessed a REAL crash. I was there for a few: **Black Monday -** DOW down 23% in a single day. I was not in the market but freshly graduated from college and it was nearly impossible to find a job for a while. **Dot-com Bubble Bust -** Nasdaq dropped almost 80%. During the exuberance I went full stupid buying AMZN options and making $... until I didn't and that margin call was very painful. **Global Financial Crisis -** I had learned a bit by then and panicked before everyone else did. Made some adjustments but portfolio still went down 18% (S&P 500 dropped 60%). Did not sell at all during crash and recovered nicely within a year. **COVID-19 Pandemic -** S&P 500 fell 34%. I had already FIREd and just quit looking at my portfolio. Didn't place any trades and let it ride. Recovered fully within a few months. As you can see, 5% is not a crash. 20+% within a couple of days is a crash and it is coming sooner that we want to accept. ***Based on my observations and past experience, there are already signs:*** Erratic market behavior 3-5% swings over several weeks. The drops become more severe than the recoveries. Then one catalyst creates a panic snowball and there goes the ACTUAL CRASH.

TickTockTaudit

You guys ever see SPY/QQQ/DOW all down by such a similar % like this? Clearly not a rotation. Just risk off but feels weird

Hefty-Chipmunk-5445

NASDAQ, great day, DOW not so much

No_Complex_2603

Come on now. Illegal pirated content sites that will get shutdown and your mom’s shows not on it is the bear case? No wonder people can’t understand how it got to $1340. Definitely doesn’t have anything to do with their tech, ad rev, subscription numbers, catalog of content w/ legal rights, and hugely profitable. Now entering a new stage where retail can join back in and price will stabilize and they will be added to the DOW.

Former-Object-8363

i looked at DOW vs BTC over last 3 months and its exactly opposite correlation. Bears thinking they got it finally lol.

Me-Regarded

Why weekend DOW unhappy?

Dogdowndog

DOW up 8,000 points year to date is a slump?

Former-Object-8363

I got calls not for qqq but some for DOW. potentially we both can make profits but its highly unlikable.

be_like_bill

DOW is pretty much the least representative metric to gauge the stock market performance/sentiment 

PornMakesMeFeelAlive

I prefer using the DOW as the indicator

Former-Object-8363

what makes you say that? any catalyst? I got DOW calls not spy

d33p7r0ubl3

Mag 7 is boring DOW shit

Former-Object-8363

Spy and nasdaq green but DOW still in red. Can you make it green plz chat

dabadboy2995

Over here watching the DOW, “PUUSSHHH”

Nefarious_AI_Agent

If the DOW starts recovering its over for BER

Former-Object-8363

honest question if NVDA report bad earnings is the whole market cooked? will DOW drop too?

alemorg

Except you used the DOW index which is not the best example. If you use the Nasdaq or spy it beats the other index’s. Over a 20 yr time frame I would much prefer to the American indexes. Maybe the Indian index I would prefer to be a small percentage of my portfolio.