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Is buying FIAT regarded? A weekly derivative based on shorting COIN.
Warning to the world - 2026 will bring global Hyperinflation & Stagflation
Warning to the world - 2026 will bring global Hyperinflation
B-2A Spirits and E-6B Mercury Active in Nuclear Readiness Drills Over Europe
What does it mean if SEC and Dist Yields are wildly different on a dividend stock?
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To be fair, Bitcoin is doing what is usually does. This time is not different. Not yet at least. I know it seems crazy, but maybe this time is not different. Maybe it's not a super cycle. Maybe Bitcoin wont go to zero. Maybe FIAT wont collapse tomorrow. Maybe this is just like every other cycle in Bitcoins existence.
Wait until the AI bubble bursts, new bailouts on tax money...mass unemployment, your bank account either non existent or worthless FIAT, guess who is paying for everything... Then we'll see who the greater fool is
FIAT money and it's not even close
The value of Bitcoin is due to 1) scarcity (money that can be printed freely is increasingly worthless) 2) zero counterparty risk or decentralized (not government controlled or controlled by any organization or group) 3) permissionless (anyone can use it, freely, without censorship) 4) digital (the world we live in is inherently digital. This reduces friction and increases its usefulness.) 5) can’t be counterfeited (due to the way the technology works, a double-spend or “counterfeit” Bitcoin is exceedingly expensive, and potentially impossible at this point.) These are the qualities that make it a superior form of money compared to every other money/savings vehicle. Compare it to FIAT currency, bonds, precious metals, equities, physical commodities, Veblen goods, etc. No asset on earth has the specific qualities Bitcoin has, and Bitcoin’s are superior to the others. It’s quite remarkable and I urge you to study the history of money, what qualities make good money, and why Bitcoin might fit in as the BEST form of it.
Do you think the aliens accept FIAT?
everything has value only if other humans agree that it has some value (sorry for my english). FIAT currency are only paper/metal, we simply trust that are money for other humans. So is bitcoin.
They never were going to go down an austerity path, this was the only possible track as the US global reserve currency slowly falls and the US along with it. Printers will go brrrrr. Costs will go up and wages will stagnate. USA doesn't make enough things anymore, function of being reserve holder, you become a net importer, all fungible tasks become cheaper elsewhere. That can only go on for so long. We are most certainly in the later stages of the F-around bit of the cycle it seems. Check out the book "The Creature From Jekyl Island", best Federal Reserve and history/future of FIAT currencies along with the people and places behind everything so far I've found.
There is zero point for stable coins beside holding crypto in FIAT backed asset Processing a payment in stable coin means on the base case gas fee if buyer and seller have the same currency and on worst case (différente currencies) 1 conversion of the buyer side, transfer in stable coin then reconvert to fiat on the seller side. why paying gas fees + on ramp fee + off ramp fee for exactly the same thing as converting one currency to another? No reason at all
Fix It Again Tony? That FIAT?
This is absolute bullshit being spread by several current and past directors of Binance and the Trump family paid shills! Iran is accepting FIAT NOT crypto!
Because we have to spend so much money on wars and pay for isarel's healthcare. imagine if we stopped being blackmailed into fighting their fights and cut off their wellfare over a 10-20 years time. Now, the gov't being FIAT/debt based will just find something else to waste tax dollars on, but so long as it's not israel, I suppose I could continue to deal with it. Nobody is going to run on austerity.
you think you can deflate FIAT? you truly belong here
I…… am sadly one of these people 😅 but not stupid enough to leave that amount idle in a savings account, in FIAT nonetheless. Been using a Ledger hardware wallet with debit card for 7 years now?
I can't believe that people give it such a bad wrap. Yes it is retarded in its current form but look at first planes, they were super retarded at the beginning. I'm all about moving away from FIAT currencys so i'm not affected by some clown printing gorillion dollars and fucking up everything.
That and control of the crypto mining market so it can't threaten FIAT currency
I like to loose my FIAT paper money and my Crypto imaginary money at the same time, so I hold both.
My FIAT trembles at your audacity.
I am following COIN stock moves up and down . Best way is to invest in FIAT vs CONL . But you should keep tracking daily . Let’s see where l get in 6 months .
You can short it via an ETF. $FIAT. And it pays... weekly dividends.
How did we go from "Bitcoin will be more stable and reliable than FIAT MONEY" to "bitcoin’s volatility is great and banks will still fund me using FIAT MONEY even if bitcoin loses 90%"????
Gonna go flex at the mall today with my FIAT. Show the poors how to ball out
Don’t worry guys FIAT is a scam 1coin is 1 coin still
Keep holding your BTC. You will not lose any BTC in the process. You may loose FIAT but it is trash so no big deal.
Humans tried to bore through the continental crust a few decades ago, that experiment did not go as planned. Safe to say, vast majority of that gold will never be mined. And even though gold is mined every day, its level of scarcity/mining is priced in. Your last sentence... what in the world. Sounds like you just finished gulping down a whole pitcher of Kool-Aid. It never made sense as a store of value and never will. Humanity does not need Bitcoin, if it went away tomorrow civilization would continue as if nothing happened. Humanity needs gold, if it went away we'd be royally screwed, set back technologically by great leaps. FIAT is valued by humanity because behidn it as actual tangible assets that you can touch, a FIAT can change, dissapear, but the assets will stay. Bitcoin as a store of value makes less sense as Stradivarius violins. There is limited quantity of them, there will never be more. But at least if their value tanks you still have the violin. BTC is awful as a store of value. If you bought it within last 1.5 years, you are down. If you bought it in the last 5 years you are sideways. Putting money in the S&P 500 would have brought you greater return. Sure, you can speculate and buy high and sell low. But you are timing the market, and we know how that goes. Besides at that point you arent using as store of value, you are using it as a speculative virtual asset.
I was answering your questions of "What can you do with gold?". I didnt say thats what drives its value. What drove its value recently is pure hype, speculative investment, as the ensuing crash back to trend line showed. The steady increase in price, part of it is inflation (devaluation of FIAT). Its the same story for Bitcoin. If you look at 2020 when it was worth $60k and account for inflation then its worth exactly the same today at $75,400. thats just $60k adjusted for inflation. But gold is (and has been) adopted as a store of value for millennia, across the globe, since the whole world participates in gold, as inflation spikes, the whole entire world store their value in gold as to fight inflation, which then drive's its price up. Its a proven asset, that cannot be manipulated by the will of the people (unlike Bitcoin and other crypto). Its truly immutable. Bitcoin is theoretically not immutable and thats why its not like gold.
COIN calls? Why though? You can try to undo some of that damage and hedge with a COIN 1x leveraged short ETF. $FIAT has been one of my best performing holdings. Oh yeah, and it pays dividends. Weekly dividends, no less.
So many words and all you need to do is look it up on the fucking internet. Look at whats happening in african communities. It took centuries for the FIAT to become adopted globally but here you are spewing garbage about a truly free alternative that has only been around for a decade. You’re the same kind of garbage that voted for Trump.
Indeed now the real question is more like where this money went as it was wiped out from everywhere simultaneously: stock markets, commodities, cryptos. Does that mean that this money is sitting in FIAT for a few days before rotating god k ow where ?
No, bitcoin should cost 1 USDT and USDT should cost nothing because it’s worthless. If you’re cold you can burn FIAT, with crypto you can’t even wipe your a$$
Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge were bled dry by Daimler and given to FIAT by GWB's TARP program, were they not? I thought they were the most-profitable American manufacturer when Daimler-Chrysler was formed?
The FIAT standard ensures high Beta.
The good news is it’s better than FIAT….well….well, the bad news is it will take 10 years to recover.
We as a species appear to be transitioning from FIAT back to the gold standard, full port gold leaps is a legit money printer while 🥭 breathes.
Taking profit of FIAT?! No thank you
Destroy FIAT so the trump family can eventually cash out on crypto... thankfully I think its going to take awhile for that rotation to happen.
Gold still has to be assigned value by being DENOMINATED in a FIAT currency when you sell it or exchange it for goods and services, and it does this through the worlds reserve currency- USD. Its not pegged to the USD anymore, but its still TIED to it.
We go to 300. Short before FIAT money collapses and you can exchange wheelbarrows of money for the new GlobalElite Coupons™.
Can somebody cook up a 10% GDP print? We need to get that Debt-GDP ratio back under 100. I have capitulate for the last time. FIAT collapse means you need assets to survive. I wouldn't bet on an ETF with a 400:1 paper:physical, but that's just me (SLV). Gold bars, here I come.
found it, made by World Gold council [Gold: A Journey With Idris Elba](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UikzYdgTc) Gold up 1641% in last 25 years to sp500's 726% "Gold is money, all else is credit." James Pierpont Morgan It's been the only non-counterfeitable money for 6000 years, any FIAT currency, is counterfeited daily. The US created 40% of all US Dollars in history just since Covid19-MArch 2020. That's also called counterfeiting. The real inflation CPI rate is about 8% today, based on M2 money creation/debasement, and has been around 7.1% since 1971. please buy some assets tied to Gold, either the physical or an ETF or a gold miner ETF like RING/GDX etc. to protect from the counterfeiting of that green toilet paper in your wallet and bank account and in the form of you house and cars, etc.
I´ll consider any crypto coin a valid asset which a widely accepted credit card company pulls from your wallet when you pay in FIAT. That product doesn´t exist yet to the best of my knowledge.
thats exactly what you should do. Either invest or do something fun with the money. Because by 2030, i really do think old FIAT money no longer is relevant, and UBI is the new system
I love your sentiment except one thing, where will they get the money from? People need to constantly acknowledge that USD is just FIAT, they can create it out of thin air and have for missions in the past. They have black budgets and the ability for unlimited spending when they need to.
FIAT to be specific. And it’s everyone not just the dollar
Everyone is a gambler... and you can't keep your money in FIAT because it will melt away... next question.
the great depression. also the only way we manged to get rid of it was by abandoning the gold standard and FIAT devaluation ( not saying it's a good thing, it's only the bad option between bad and worse )
Silver/Gold mixed ETF 25/75. Gold is the baseline and silver is the runner. Stocks will get nowhere Q1. You have to remember that metals are not growth strategy and will not shield you from heavy corrections, they could even be instigating it. You are effectively shorting global economy with assets that are firmly seated into that system. So short term speculative position is all that it is and all you have is IOU FIAT bits on some greedy bastards hard drive. Physical posessions are different. Physical gold and silver allow hidden inheritance and inflation hedge. With those you can "safely" short the economy as long as you want. Nuclear war and the like.
I’m holding MSTZ and waiting for January 15th news that MSTR will be delisted from MSCI, triggering a tsunami of outflow and doubling my money. MSTR should be removed from MSCI index in Feb 2026 if they finalize the decision on January 15th. MSTR is trying to raise CASH/FIAT now, not Bitcoin, to stay afloat with their dividend preferred side Ponzis. Easiest short in the world.
I enjoy posts like yours to test myself to see where I stand in all of this. I think I agree with some of your views, but definitely not all. I am fairly certain Saylor has said himself that they're a BTC treasure company more than a software company. So your statement lines up, but it also nothing new. Microstrategy has survived multiple 70% drawdowns already. Each crash each new cycle seems to impose smaller drawdowns, and so, thanks to the long maturation and the low interest rates, I think they will survive the next crash aswell. It is a different situation if BTC were to ever crash and never return to heights. It makes sense that the company that has made BTC their largest strategy, will not survive if BTC doesn't survive. MSTR would survive quite a long time on sideway chop aswell. Again, long maturation and low interest rates will allow them to survive for quite a while. So, I wonder what your time horizon is on this claim. Your last claim I agree with the least. The way MSTR is setup, provides the trader/investor with a leveraged BTC play. This is something other ETFs, as far as i know, don't supply for BTC (at least not right now). An ETF is in my view, simply a different product compared to what MSTR offers. You seem to imply that the dilution is a weak part of MSTR's strategy, but it is instead their strength. Their vision is that FIAT will debase, lose its value, and so holding more and more BTC per share, is their strength. This all is good if you believe in BTC, which I assume their traders and investors do. BTC becoming fully adopted would make MSTR unbelievably succesful. Let's assume adoption progresses and other companies offer the same or similar product, then there is no reason to think that MSTR wouldn't be able to evolve its model if it needs to. This is my weakest stance though, because I have no idea what this would look like.
If you think you're having a bad day, take a moment to think about ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of the regards that thought DJT was going to pump their bags to 150k+ this year and took out 12% loans using their BTC as collateral. They are now be both FIAT & BTC poor. They could have just invested into an FDIC HYSA and made more money w/o the volatility and taxes. L M F G D A O B B Q https://preview.redd.it/my39g8abam4g1.jpeg?width=32&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00a00e19fabe99e50f39e45b969482fa1249ebb4
...*what*? To answer your question: no. If you're referring to their Bitcoin holdings, it's <6% of their assets and the CEO has explicitly said that it's only a small hedge against FIAT or market crash, not something they're looking to do more of.
I"ve held a bit for a while, but I've been slowly accumulating more. Got some at peak prices, couldn't care less. Just slightly down from ATH meanwhile FIAT worth less every minute. Once they cut rates and fire up that money printer....oooo doggie, watch out.
Because the stock market is literally just built on hype. It's not as though a company's stock value is tied to the earnings of it's company. It's built on hype and vibes which is literally also what regular FIAT currency is built on. Just wait for OpenAI to announce some new major model or Jensen to have some viral clip and the money will shoot back up.
you list 5 funds that are all just levered plays on FIAT, in the four equities they all go up with increasing inflation while the BND goes down. This is a risky play, perhaps add 20-30% IAUM like Morgan Stanley is recommending now.
Since it was only FIAT money it hadnt any value anyway
Instructions unclear, just bought a FIAT vehicle and taking it to the mechanic who will take my dollars.
If the AI bubble bursts, we can look at 30k BTC over that year. After the banks and the economy get bailed out, it will soar back up again on printed money out of everyone's pocket. Remember that FIAT is inflationary. Even if BTC would stay the same in rough buying power, it's price in dollars would go higher and higher. It will reach back to 126 000, but it is not going to be the same 126 000 from October 2025 ;)
You can albeit it's not really "with Bitcoin" in the strictest sense. Just like banks offer cards that you can use anywhere in the world regardless of currency and charge the fee for currency exchange there are such services for Bitcoin too that work the same way that issue a card (usually through MasterCard) and exchange it to whatever FIAT you are paying with so it works just like any regular debit card. It's not gaining much popularity though because Bitcoin as currency doesn't really work due to its volatility.
crypto bros 10 years ago: CRYPTO WILL REPLACE FIAT, END WARS, DESTROY BANKS, AND GOVERNMENTS crypto bros now: institutions and government are buying crypto!!! YAYAYA PUMP IT
And when we get super nerdy and technical about financial markets they throw out “FIAT” like it’s their new F word.
all commodities relative to all currencies to see how FIAT is behaving against real things.
Yeah yeah. Everyone and thier dog calling for Armageddon for 2 years now. And yup, several indicators are flagging red while ATH continue. A pullback will obviously happen. Meanwhile the U.S. government continues to debase thier currency and really many western nation's FIAT conti ues to errode while inflation continues. Pick your poison
puts it is! $FIAT, $CRSH, $DIPS
the bubble is FIAT and thats what people are failing to realize
The markets are not going up nowadays. FIAT, first and foremost the greenback is going DOWN.
So you go long on FIAT? Brave move son.
Yeah, China alone has bought up over 20X the amount they typically do JUST IN THE LAST YEAR. Governments build gold war chests to avoid sanctions (and to hedge against FIAT issues), but the amount they bought is definitely suspicious, and I expect them to keep hoarding.
We didnt see significant inflation post 2008. We saw massive deflation in a lot of assets.... Inflation has been really sharp in the last 70 years in the US regarding the 1970s when we went full FIAT, and 2020 because of covid.
I am pro bond, nice catch. I think its a great place to be right now. You cant compare an investor to someone who creates though. So of course Zuck is worth more. You list all the good's of AI, but gloss over the negatives, such as massive loss of economic opportunities. We cant find enough jobs for people right now, how do you think elimination of jobs is going to be good in the long run? You describe a communist utopia essentially. AI does everything, no one works. GG you just broke capitalism, the market collapses. Thats the "AI is perfect" outcome. AI is the FIAT of labor. You can use to to "create" labor, while simultaneously devaluing labor. Another mechanism that will hurt people economically. Theres only so many trade jobs for people to scramble to.
My comment wasn't meant to say it's a reliable guarantee of value. My point was Bitcoin has a fixed supply and the US dollar / bonds (which are backed by the dollar) do not have a fixed supply. You cannot magically print a larger than 21 million Bitcoin supply out of thin air like you can with FIAT currency.
on FIAT...FDIC insured. for BTC, Cold Storage
What is not at all time highs? The dollar (all FIAT currency actually). The measuring stick for assets is money. Has every asset grown against the measuring stick? Or has the measuring stick (money) shrunk in value?
Nah, I'm not bearish on crypto. I've been trading crypto since before 2017 -- just a lot of new guys don't know this. I was mining it circa 2014. Tether was printed and used to pump BTC from 2017-2018 \*hard\*, then again in the next bull cycle. At this point it's "too big to fail" and hundreds of billions of real USD bought in. It's going nowhere due to that alone. I'm not betting against something like that lol. That's foolish. I understand how the game works, and even if it's "fake" - which it likely is - so long as there are hundreds of billions of "non fake" money in the market it'll continue it's ascent. Being bearish because of tether is the most foolish thing in the world. Being bearish \*on tether\* on the other hand is fine. I don't hold any and will only trade crypto against FIAT (USD, EUR), good stables (USDC) or use it as collateral for futures (perps). I don't hold USDT, never will.
Are they actually going to use gold as a reserve? FIAT currency offers so much more flexibility for governments
You cannot go wrong with PHYSICAL gold. But people misrepresent what gold is. It's a hedge against currency crisis, which the dollar could very well see in the near future. The fact that it's up 100%+ over the last 5 years is cool and all but it shouldn't be seen as a wealth builder. It's a hedge against FIAT, and a universal currency that's always been a safe haven for thousands of years.
>If we assume a realistic +2% annual demand increase, economically minable gold reserves are exhausted around mid-2041 (USGS baseline). **GOLD** FIAT COLLAPSE + INCREASING SUPPLY SCARCITY + FOMO FEEDBACK LOOP
10,000 dollars of any stock is FIAT money anyway
Very true... some of this is due to changing the measuring scale. But some is demand driven because others see that their FIAT is becoming more worthless.
Let's cut to the chase. The FED is the biggest fraud in history, hence this is why two great presidents, Jefferson and Jackson terminated the central bank. President Kennedy was killed as he was attempting to phase out the FED. While we hold FIAT, the value continues to decline. We must demand a return to precious metals and to engage with silver/gold coins in commerce. When we had the gold standard, the national debt was about $200 billion which was covered by our gold reserves. The central bank plays with our fiances by manipulating interest rates, it determines to some degree, winners and losers. All that easy money with nothing backing it up.
Silly you, obviously you don't know how crypto works, without FIAT it would have no context to reference. Other than $ transactions, what da fuq else would you do with an encrypted public ledger... keep global time with nonces and prevent people's backups from working.... bah get outta here.
Pizza will replace the dollar as FIAT currency.
Wait til we hit the FOMC rate announcement, and we only get .25 Bps instead of .5 that's getting priced in now. Or even worse, no move. Inflation (CPI) showed a mild increase over the summer and is sticky as hell. If interest rates go low (lest say DTs 6 Bps ro 1.5% decrease), the S&P juices hard, but real household purchasing gets fucked on the FIAT devaluation so hard it won't walk right for years.
#crypto is a SOY currency, real gigachads use FIAT not some magic internet money that some country in the BUMFUCK middle of nowhere is the first to use
#crypto is a currency for soys, CLANKERS and dirt lovers (I tried to buy weed online with it once but got scammed) FIAT ALL DAY BABY
Imagine being full in BTC when monetary system of the world collapses - even now it's rare to pay in BTC and most of that system get price in FIAT to calculate BTC amount. So GLD probably, but physical, not ETN
SEC yield is a 12 month average, or it uses the last 12 months to calculate yearly yield Dist Yield is base on Last Months Distribution, and assumes they will all be the same amount to come up with a yearly value FIAT is down about 85% so I am guessing that's part of the distortion and a special dividend..
35 PE is basically 3% expected returns if earnings remain flat. They won't remain flat because we're in a FIAT system and governments will always choose to print. So on average I would expect at least 3% earnings inflation. So that is overall like a 4.5-5% nominal return? Doesn't seem too overvalued to me in the current settings. Definitely not a bargain
i dont see how FIAT currency will magically become more expensive. Nearly every central bank is diluting it like psychopaths with credit cards
Not unless people trust BTC more than the government. You are aware that FIAT has no floor, hence crypto has no ceiling.
Hey everyone, As mentioned, I sold my house and now I'm sitting on around $150k. Currently all of it is sitting in a 4.25% HYSA. (Located in Europe, so all $ values are estimates) I currently have around $50k sitting in direct stocks as well as a $15k in savings (no interest) for emergencies and that's the entirety of my portfolio. I'd love some critique on my desired passive investment goals : 1. Maintain the $50k direct stocks and forget about it. 2. Reduce the HYSA @ 4.25% to $50k for 'safe' money. (New home deposit, whatnot) 3. Reduce the $15k no-interest savings slightly to 2-months' salary for emergencies. 4. Invest the remaining $100k in funds. Now here comes the question: \- Would it be dumb to split the 100k into the following: 80% 'safe' S&P , 20% distruptive? Or is it too conservative / aggressive? I think I'm exposed enough with direct stock purchases, that I'd rather move around the existing $50k between shares than invest even more FIAT into new stocks. I know everyone keeps talking about an incoming crash, but I paperhanded out of the April one with $10k I had in a fund and that blew up in my face - ironically I diamonhanded through alllllll of the BTC dips and runs back in the day until I eventually cashed it out to afford a downpayment on my then-house. So I'm not asking for direct advice, but would love to see what people's portfolios look like in the index market. Background info: * How old are you? *- mid 40s* * What country do you live in? *Norway* * Are you employed/making income? How much? *- $80k pa*. * What are your objectives with this money? (Buy a house? Retirement savings?) *- 30% towards next house, 70% retirement* * What is your time horizon? Do you need this money next month? Next 20yrs? *- 30% 3-5yrs, 70% 20yrs+* * What is your risk tolerance? (Do you mind risking it at blackjack or do you need to know its 100% safe?) - *30% risk averse, 70% YOLO* * What are you current holdings? (Do you already have exposure to specific funds and sectors? Any other assets?) *- see text* * Any big debts (include interest rate) or expenses? *- no debt, no big expenses, no car loans.*
Crypto is NOT untraceable, in fact, it's quite literally out in the open for all to track. Currently only FIAT dollars are (which IMHO will have a LOT more value than face when the world over kills FIAT and swaps to USD Stables and/or CBDC's for black market transactions), unless they are trading in Monero, which I very highly doubt.
that's cute you think $32T debt matters in FIAT world controlled by central banks... people still trade in $USD & treasuries are the safest paper. If world ever lost confidence in US & dumped dollar...then we're in trouble. But that would collapse world trade & cause depression
that's cute you think $32T debt matters in FIAT world controlled by central banks... people still trade in $USD & treasuries are the safest paper. If world ever lost confidence in US & dumped dollar...then we're in trouble. But that would collapse world trade & cause depression
You're missing the part where there was a $3.8T tax cut? And no large country right now runs deficit free. Because of international trade & FIAT money, countries most definitely can spend more than they take in--comparing to a household is false dichotomy
I've spent quite some time over months in Germany but never actually "moved". I see your point however the counter argument to that for me is the fact that the amount I would be able to save would be almost identical in terms of FIAT due to the impact the loan would have on my cash flow. I also think that my countries property rates are due to a massive correction but I'm not taking this into consideration as housing markets move reaaly slowly. But you raise an important point ! Thanks for your feedback
FIAT currency itself is depreciating quickly bc it is printed. Companies are more or less real value, no surprise that whatever the condition of the economy is, money is going into companies with not disastrous outlook. BTW the market is very selective here, SP, Nasdaq are approx 40% MAGS7, the money is concentrated in AMD, NVIDIA, META, GOOG, even TSLA is standing its ground.
There will always be some optimist who is convinced they can buy Chrysler and turn the company around. Mercedes, Cerberus, the US government and FIAT have all taken a stab at ownership. When FIAT eventually decides to bail out I'm sure they will find a willing buyer. It helps that Chrysler makes a lot of vehicles for the US military, so every time they get in financial trouble they can go whining to the government, claim they're essential for national defense and get a nice bailout.