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Yeah, I keep planning to cash out, but with all the Trump-related craziness, gold just keeps climbing. I have about 12% of my portfolio in gold-related ETFs right now. I also moved about 5% to European currency ETFs last spring, which have done pretty well, especially FXF (Swiss Francs). I like to think that I saw the writing on the wall. The taxes are gonna suck when I cash out, but such is life.
Hear me out: Flat By Friday. FXF. It’s an ultra leveraged theta-ETF that also seeks 3X VIX over the weekend.
This administration and Congress is butt fucking the dollar. You do not want to hold wealth in the actual USD at all. To make money I moved some into IAU and as a hedge against inflation I moved into FXF until the market chooses a direction.
FXF calls treated me kindly today.
Nah, 11% on Polymarket is just degeneracy bait; Trump talks big on Greenland for headlines, but invading a NATO ally? That's Pearl Harbor 2.0, nuking USD hegemony and crashing S&P 50% overnight. Markets pricing in 0% reality here; it's pure theta bleed for retail suckers. Trump's chaos is already baked into VIX spikes—S&P's up 25% YTD cuz AI/tech >> geopolitics noise. Hold core. Layer in 10-15% gold/CHF hedges now (GLD or FXF) for any Denmark drama. Exits are for panic, not pros.Stay stacked.
Definitely $FXF , maybe $FXY ?
He wanted something low risk. FXF is up 6% over past year. It's beating inflation.
When I must analyze things deeply sometimes I use Gemini AI to help me. To answer questions like this AI pulls data from more sources accurately than humans can without emotional bias. Forgive me for my response but if I were in your situation I would do this plus I would consult with a professional money manager possibly. This is a very common and understandable concern for anyone with a significant portion of their wealth in a volatile minor currency, especially when planning a major expense like moving abroad. You are thinking along the right lines by focusing on currency diversification and stability. Here is an analysis of your current path and alternative, low-cost approaches for a stable, currency-diversified allocation: 1. Analysis of Your Current Path The Invesco CurrencyShares Swiss Franc Trust (\text{FXF}) is one way to achieve exposure to a major, traditionally "safe-haven" currency (the Swiss Franc). Pros: • Pure Currency Exposure: It's designed to track the spot exchange rate of the \text{CHF} against the \text{USD} (minus expenses), giving you direct currency exposure without stock market risk. • High Liquidity: As an Exchange-Traded Fund (\text{ETF}), it is highly liquid and easy to buy and sell through a standard brokerage account. • Swiss Franc: Historically considered a safe-haven currency. Cons/Limitations: • Lack of Diversification: It only holds one currency. If the Swiss Franc devalues against the currency you will ultimately need (e.g., \text{USD}, \text{EUR}, or \text{JPY}), your savings will still lose value, defeating your goal of diversification. • Expense Ratio: It has a management fee (expense ratio), which is a drag on returns. • Currency Pairs: If your base currency is not \text{USD}, the value of the \text{FXF} is affected by both the \text{CHF}/\text{USD} rate and your home currency's rate against the \text{USD}. 2. The Better Path: Diversifying Your Cash Savings To achieve your goal of a stable, currency-diversified allocation without stock market exposure, a combination of strategies focusing on low-risk debt instruments denominated in stable currencies is generally more suitable than a single-currency \text{ETF}. Here are a few low-cost and stable ways to achieve currency diversification: A. Multi-Currency Money Market Funds (MMFs) or High-Yield Cash Accounts This is often the simplest and cheapest approach for a cash savings goal. • How it works: Some global brokerage platforms or banks offer money market funds or high-interest cash accounts denominated in multiple major currencies like \text{USD}, \text{EUR}, or \text{GBP}. Money market funds invest in ultra-safe, short-term debt instruments like government T-Bills and highly-rated commercial paper, aiming to maintain a stable Net Asset Value (\text{NAV}) of \$1.00 or \text{€}1.00, etc. • Pros: • High Stability: Extremely low risk (much lower than a currency \text{ETF}). • Liquidity: Excellent liquidity, often allowing next-day withdrawal. • Interest: You earn a yield on your cash, unlike many currency \text{ETFs}. • Diversification: You can directly allocate your cash across several funds/accounts in different currencies (e.g., 50\% in a \text{USD} MMF, 25\% in a \text{EUR} MMF, 25\% in a \text{JPY} MMF). • Cons: • Accessibility: Requires a brokerage account or bank that offers these multi-currency options, which may be more common with international or large brokerage firms. • T-Bill/MMF Rates: The return is tied to short-term interest rates in that country, which can be very low (e.g., in Japan or Switzerland). B. Basket of Single-Currency ETFs (Treasury Focus) To create your own diversified basket, you could use a combination of ETFs, but you should look for funds that hold ultra-safe debt rather than just currency. • How it works: Purchase ETFs that invest only in short-term government debt (like T-Bills) of the countries whose currencies you want exposure to. Examples are \text{USD} Treasury ETFs, \text{EUR} short-term government bond \text{ETFs}, etc. • Pros: • Stability: Investing in short-term government debt (especially from developed nations like the \text{US}, Germany, or Switzerland) is among the safest investments, virtually guaranteeing principal preservation in that currency. • Diversification: You can easily set your own target allocation (e.g., 30\% \text{USD}, 30\% \text{EUR}, 20\% \text{CHF}, 20\% \text{JPY}). • Low Cost: Many major government bond \text{ETFs} have very low expense ratios. • Cons: • Bond Price Volatility (Minor): While short-term bonds are much less volatile than stocks or long-term bonds, their price can fluctuate slightly, meaning your daily value could move a little bit, though the risk is minimal. • Expense Ratio: You pay a small fee for each \text{ETF}. C. Currency-Basket ETFs (Less Common) Less common but potentially more convenient are funds that hold a basket of currencies directly. • How it works: These funds, often tracking a basket like the \text{USD} Index or a \text{G10} currency basket, may offer broader exposure. • Pros: • Instant Diversification: One single purchase gives you a diversified basket. • Cons: • Limited Options: True "stable-currency" basket funds are rare or may include currencies you don't want. • Expense Ratio: Often have higher expense ratios than simple MMFs or T-Bill ETFs. Recommendation: For a large cash saving that needs to be stable and currency-diversified with low cost and no stock market risk, the best path is likely Strategy A (Multi-Currency Money Market Funds/Cash Accounts) or a custom mix using Strategy B (Short-Term Government Debt ETFs). 1. Open a Brokerage Account that offers access to low-cost Money Market Funds or ETFs. 2. Divide your cash according to your desired diversification (e.g., 40\% \text{USD}, 30\% \text{EUR}, 20\% \text{CHF}, 10\% \text{JPY}). 3. Invest each portion into a highly liquid, stable, short-term vehicle denominated in that currency (e.g., a \text{USD} Treasury \text{MMF}, a \text{Eurozone} short-term government bond \text{ETF}, etc.). This approach keeps your principal safe in the underlying currency assets and allows the power of diversification to smooth out the currency fluctuations among the stable currencies you've chosen.
I could buy FXF but they issue a K1 and I do hate having complicated taxes because I'm lazy. VT is easy and I don't have to think about it.
I had FXF for a while which was pegged to the Swiss Franc. But it appreciated very little and the day to day volatility spooked me. If you're looking to park cash and beat Spaxx, some short term bonds are the safest bet. If you're trying to peg currency, FXF or FXE. Or, you know, just buy gold.
It isn't complicated. There are etfs for most major currencies. Like FXF, FXE, FXY, FXA
I didn't really - we bought FXE and FXF call options, but the time decay (theta) is causing them to drop in value at about the same rate the dollar is dropping, so it's not really a great hedge.
FXE for euro FXF for Swiss Franc FXB for UK pound sterling FXC for the Canadian maple back FXY for Japanese yen
Buy calls on FXF and FXE expiring in November/December Literally free money
FDIC will hold. Even Trump isn't that stupid. If you want an alternative to USD due to its devaluation you can hold a FXF it's a Swiss Francs currency ETF.
You're probably better off with a HYSA from a direct bank that's FDIC ensured. The chances us government won't uphold FDIC insurance is nill. Even Trump isn't that stupid. If you want an alternative that protects against the devaluing of the dollar there's a currency ETF that tracks Swiss Francs called FXF.
Honestly I agree, I also increased my weight to gold, silver, and gold miners earlier this year. And funny you mention the franc, because I also had a strong long position on FXF but exited earlier this year. So yeah, I've definitely been playing the usd devaluation thesis, but also I feel that tbill and bond demand across the curve will rise if we get another volatility spike in equities. Dedollarization is certainly strong, but just look at what us treasuries yield compared to Gilts, Bunds, and JGBs... youre not going to get a better yield investing in another country's debt...and you can just put your cash in tbills which is as good as cash imo. But yes, I agree that money printing to service our debt is the most likely solution, and this will prop up precious metals, equities, crypto, etc. But i dont think this would cause a massive spike in yields on its own. Plus a shift to QE would probably happen quietly at first - the fed expanding the report facility first, then slowly buying up more bonds on the open market.
SAABF is a OTC that tracks Saab. FXF is a currency trust. Both gained from the depreciation of the USD probably.
SAABF barely had a dip in April, FXF didn't have one at all, and both gained about 10% or more afterwards.
There are very few options. FXF, FXE, and the family.
Core account: VXUS, VTI, BNDW Fluff: SCHD, SCHY, O, REET, BRK.B, FXE, FXF
FXE, FXF, FXY, GLD, TBT, and UVIX are my insurance plan in case things go tits up with the USD
1) FXF 2) GOOGL 3) NVDA 4) ASTS 5) ENPH (pretty small and honestly just holding in hopes it someday bounces back lol) That excludes SGOV and ETFS which account for ~75% of my brokerage and Roth IRA accounts
You and I are sharing four holdings. Instead of VXUS, I just do VT to cover my bases, and I don't mess with REITs anymore, but otherwise I'm in that same boat holding FXF, FXE, SCHY, and BNDW. I was holding FXY for a bit there, then realized Japan is probably just going to keep printing money, so they'll probably be one of the few countries sure to decline against us.
I hold the following: * VXUS (ex-US equities passively managed index etf) * BNDW (ex-US bonds passively managed index etf) * REET (ex-US REITS managed index etf, excludes development firms and only includes REITs that hold real estate) * FXE (Synonymous with holding Euros, pays a dividend) * FXF (Synonymous with holding Swiss Francs, no dividend) * SCHY (Schwab international high dividend yield index etf) Out of those, VXUS, BNDW, SCHY are my largest ex-US holdings. The rest represent <2% positions in my portfolio.
My FXF is printing like none other lately.
That is why I gotta roll my eyes every time I see posts here that are seemingly blissfully unaware that a lot of our "ATH" at the moment is actually just dollar destruction. I keep a single share of FXE and FXF just to keep an eye on our exchange rate. Guess what also shot up during this weeks rally? Yep. We're getting fucking cooked out here and dumbasses are celebrating.
First, we're prepping like a MF, stocking up on stuff we need to live on. Good investment. As far as financially: Cash - what about FXE (Euros), FXF (Swiss Francs) - both seem to be doing great as the dollar falls under this regime. VEA for equities (ex-US companies without emerging markets). For bonds, IBND (high quality ex-US corporate bonds non-hedged), WIP (developed ex-US government bonds with inflation indexing, non-hedged)
Over the last month, SPY has outperformed FXF, 5% to 2%. Over the last year, SPY has outperformed FXF 13% vs. 11%.
I’m holding FXF, an asset that trades against the dollar.
I did the same thing. All the administration's rhetoric pointed to reducing US exposure. Increasing isolationism + loss of trust from allies + pressure to increase NATO military spending: invest in European non-US defense spending (EUAD and KDEF) Dollar devaluation: protect uninvested cash with foreign currencies, precious metals, and safe foreign-denominated bonds (FXE, FXF, FXY, GLD, IGOV) My cash alone has outperformed VOO over the past 3 months. If a cult of unchecked loudmouth lunatics hellbent on getting their way tell you their plans: believe them.
I've been fleshing out a holding in both FXE and FXF (Swiss Francs).
I put my retirement in FXF for just this reason
I manage two portfolios for my personal money. One is a 60/40 portfolio but instead of bonds I swing trade currencies using ETFs. You could just hold one if those ETFs (or a combination of them) in a brokerage acct and earn the dividends while they track their designated currency pair. CADUSD is FXC and EURUSD is FXE. There’s also FXB, FXY, FXA, and FXF.
Yeah, I'm already holding FXF, FXE, and FXY. But this has been a recent thing, I'm concerned about the Fed firing up the money printer for a long, sustained time.
yeah, I mean this has played out (FXF is up 11% YTD). may keep playing out could hold: FXF, FXY, FXA international unhedged bonds gold emerging market stocks other commodities
My hedge for all this and for the devaluation of the US dollar is FXF. The Swiss franc is always a solid bet when everything is fucked.
I get your concern. I've ended up with a mix of: bonds & fixed income (various, inc. global unhedged) short term treasuries (SGOV) growth equities (cybersecurity, battery tech, others) commodities (PDBC, DBA, IAU) currency exposure (FXY, FXF, FXA) divident & income stocks (SCHD, MO, others)
I feel like in times of panic the franc holds up even when Swiss rates are 0 or go negative. I've definitely been worried about how dovish the SEBASTIAN rhetoric has been, but even then my FXF calls have been holding up and I believe (hope) they continue to lol
I'm increasingly bullish on VXUS, AAAU and FXF
I've been rebalancing out of US and adding positions in AAAU and FXF. Convinced that if the Senate is dumb enough to pass the current bill (they won't), we'll go back into correction territory as the yield on the 10-year shoots up over 5%. If there's a protracted budget battle, then we're likely to hit a debt crisis in July or August and the markets go back into bear territory. Nightmare scenario is Trump vetoing whatever comes out of Congress at the 11th hour, and the ensuing default causes a genuine market crash
I shifted some funds into FXF last week and maintaining AAAU for now
I've always held a 50/50 split between US/EX-US equities and bonds, so I feel uniquely positioned for this. I started investing through the dot com bust and the great recession, I've never trusted the US completely because... well look around. I gladly accepted slightly lower returns in exchange for the diversification, and it has paid off well this year. Though lately I have been focusing more on investments that are backed by international currencies (FXF for swiss francs, FXE for euros), or real estate (O for domestic and some international, REET for all international). Anything that can provide either an externalized store of value or something backed primarily by real property.
VXUS, BNDX, AAAU and FXF looking better by the minute
FXF tracks the Swiss Franc and equities are a hedge against a failing dollar. Bitcoin if that’s your thing but I’m not a fan.
BNDX and VXUS and I'm probably going to grab some FXF to go with my AAAU position
It’s not something I ever thought I’d have to consider, but here we are. FXF = Swiss Franc FXE = Euro IGOV = a bond fund consisting of non-US Government Intermediate Debt from Developed Countries
Man, I knew the dollar would take a hit because my father's job included buying yen (or most foreign currency) when it was down (and it wasn't our money - it's what he did for a bank)and that was back in the late 60s, early 70s. So I knew that much but what to do when it went down was over my head. Thanks for drawing that connection. I just looked at FXF (at Fidelity) and I had taken a screen print of it weeks ago. I'll look at the others and split it. You're right and I am just beyond depressed so didn't go any further with it. I'll check the others, too, and divide what I have into the three cash funds.
Diversified the fixed income side of my portfolio to roughly 1/3 TIPs, 1/3 Swiss francs (FXF), and 1/3 international developed treasuries (ISHG). I also upped my international exposure and reduced my domestic exposure on the equity side. I don’t intend to hold the Swiss francs indefinitely, it’s more of a parking place until I get a sense of how old this is going to shake out.
Just be mindful of your purchasing power. It might be wise to diversify into other cash equivalents (FXF, FXE, IGOV) so you're a bit hedged against a falling dollar.
doesn’t JP know that there are thousands of potential factory workers waiting in the wings with little tiny screwdrivers in their hands. it must be killing DT that Central banks around the world have been cutting rates? Even Thailand has done so. Pushing JP around has turned out to be a hell of alot more difficult than renaming the Persian Gulf and getting rid of pesky foreign films. Getting out of my chair to go buy some more FXF.
Yup. Xfers happen every Friday, investments every Monday. Pretty much the only thing I've done different is adding some extra allocations in ex-US positions (REET, FXF, FXE) with play money.
Forex for now, just cash I’d keep on hand kind of thing. But researching FXF, which is an ETF that ikr can hold in just standard brokerage accounts. (I think it’s best I stay away from Forex - I get so enticed by the names…kind of like crypto.”
I was looking into jan 2026 calls for CurrencyShares Swiss Franc Trust (FXF). Seems like a good alternative to a dollar short play
12 months is my thinking. Most of it in diversified cash equivalents (SGOV, IGOV, FXF, IBIT, HYSA). If I’m wrong and the market rips then my 401k will benefit - I have made no change there. Taxable accounts are completely defensive right not. My only “play” currently is EUAD. Otherwise I’m out of equities entirely outside of retirement accounts.
AT least put it in GLD or FXF in case the dollar declines even farther
I'm holding FXF calls (short usd, long franc) right now, and it's been working out. Didn't think about the liquidity issue but oh well hope i can exit or at least exercise when the time comes. The Swiss national bank is turning a bit dovish and hasny ruled out further rate cuts this year, but my theory (and it has some historical evidence to support it) is that the franc will stay strong in lower (and even negative) interest rate environments when global markets are panicking.
So use SGOV or FXF or something as collateral for trading. Your strategy is not profitable, you have lost 23% in the last month or two compared to holding SPY.
\> Don't overthink it, it you want to hedge then get a mix of FXE, FXF, BWZ, BWX, IGOV and let run until a new administration is in sight Makes sense! Thanks for the list. I don't know what the right moves are, but the traditional "comfort language" (the market always comes back, etc.) seems very out-of-date for a new world which may be post-NATO, post-Ukraine, post-Taiwan, post-Dollar as the reserve currency, or at least the chance of such changes. My joke is the descriptor "paranoid" seems out of date -- there must always be a line that distinguishes rational and irrational fears. But I am reminded of this quote: "There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased that line." (attributed to Oscar Levant, and others).
The only constant I can trust in the months ahead is clownishness undercutting people’s confidence in the U.S. My positions: Holding YCL and FXF
BWZ is also there, short term bonds unhedged. FXE and FXF do have some yield and it's fairly close so the standard \~2% you can expect on EURO these days. I think it makes sense to hold some diversity to hedge against the USD heavily inflating, especially if you have costs in Euro in the future. Just keep in mind that BWZ, BWX, IGOV will all react differently to for example straight up currency (i.e. FXF, FXE). Bonds and treasuries have their own market and market dynamics, but they DO increase in value if/when more capital pulls out of the USD and US. Don't overthink it, it you want to hedge then get a mix of FXE, FXF, BWZ, BWX, IGOV and let run until a new administration is in sight.
I moved some USD to Swiss Francs (via FXF) but only as a hedge. Upside is capped because the Swiss can devalue the currency if it gets too hot, as they have in the past. But have about 5-6% of my liquid assets in FXF and GLD because the apocalypse is … possible.
FXE, FXF, etc., if you don't want to trade forex. However the euro is down 1.5% today versus the dollar so these are probably long term plays.
Although i am still in the market i am holding more cash than usual atm. I put a fair amount of it into FXE, FXF, FXY and FXA to hedge against the dollar.
Allocating 85% into FXF and FXE concentrates your risk heavily in just two currencies, which can backfire if the dollar rebounds or European economies face unexpected shocks. While hedging against a weakening dollar is sensible, diversification remains key. It’s wise to balance currency exposure with broader asset classes for stability.
The Invesco currency ETFs for several currencies also earn some interest: FXE (Euros), FXA (Australia), FXB (UK), FXC (Canada). The FXF (Francs) and FXY (Yen) do not. The collection of these (UDN) all together does earn some interest.
The bigger issue is both those funds mean you're going entirely into cash. Also consider international equities and bonds, these will give you the currency exposure while still having long-term growth. https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?FXE,FXF,VOO,VXUS,VT,VGK,BND,BNDX&n=2989&O=011000
Let's say I have $1,000,000 USD and my goal is simply to preserve the value of it. I do not want to hold it in cash I'm an inflationary environment. I fear gold has run up so much that it will collapse if there is a sudden Trump reversal. CHF has run up the least, so it is less likely to burst if something is tweeted while I'm sleeping. Wouldn't FXF be a decent place to hold cash if I think there is substantially more downside risk than upside potential in the short term? I acknowledge that is "timing the market" to the extent that I would be sitting out all markets until sanity resumes.
I listed them! FXF AND FXE
A safety play might be IGOV. SGOV with a mix of foreign bonds not hedged against the dollar. Still think FXF is safe though.
I moved quite a bit of my cash funds into FXF, FXE, FXY and FXA. These track the Swiss franc, Euro, Yen and AUD vs USD. If the dollar drops relative to these their value will increase. I was planning on buying some of these currencies directly but this was easier.
FXE (Euro): +6.47% FXY (Japanese Yen): +6.07% FXF (Swiss Franc): +9.27% FXB (British Pound): +3.57
FXF, FXF, and GLD for core positions instead of US money markets. BWZ for short term holdings. Underweight VTI until some adults are in the room with Trump.
IAUM, FXE, FXJ, FXF, SGOV. That's my entire portfolio. I'm in preservation mode. I keep thinking I'm making money, but what my portfolio truly reflects is how quickly the value of the dollar is dropping.
A lot of people have been suggesting the Invesco currency ETFs like FXE, FXF etc. They have about six of those ETFs for different currencies. They have one ETF that combines 6 currencies, UDN. These even earn some interest in the foreign currency. The expense ratio fee for UDN is currently waived.
My personal strategy is a combo of IGOV and FXF as a hedge against the dollar’s drop in value
Invesco has a whole bunch of currency ETFs. FXE = euro, FXF = swiss franks. UDN is a mix of six non-US dollar currencies for a one-stop shop.
I have been thinking of holding my core position in FXF rather than a money market fund.
I am doing BWX (foreign bonds unhedged), FXF (swiss franc), EUAD (european defense), and a little bit of PHYS (physical gold).
I mean my dollar drop GLDM, FXF, and DCB woudl support this. The inflation there would be 10X and I might be able to pay off my mortgage with it and still have money left.
FXF. Swiss Francs ETF. JPY Japanese Yen ETF
Just picked up GLD and FXF this morning... should probably have bought more...
The only things up for me are IAU, FXF, and… KR? 🧐 Wall Street must have had to do their fresh start.
I’m not sure. About 2 to 3 months ago, I allocated about 10% of the overall portfolio into gold (from 0%), which overall was a good call so far. Currently, since my overall goal is to hedge against a dollar crash, which I think could be seen faster than your realize if the Bond market has significant difficulties and upcoming treasury auctions (which currently hasn’t happened). I currently have out of the money long dated calls on GLD. I am toying with the idea of manually changing the core position for my portfolio to Swiss francs via FXF rather than a USD money market fund.
Full port PLTR, MSTR, RDDT, FXF And be free, live life!
I keep reading hedge with chf/euros/gold. Gold sounds like people disagree on holding actual bars or doing a fund like GLD. For other currencies though How are Americans doing this? Open an hsbc account and convert? Buy FXF? Hold actual cash?
For long term that definitely makes sense. May our positions hold the wall overnight… good luck out there fellow FXF and GLD brother 
FXF and GLD ftw! Actually I’m switching to PHYS in my taxable cuz I plan to hold long term and don’t wanna get fucked by 28% taxes on collectibles.
FXF, for one. Up almost 8% in the last month. I love Europe but the lingering Ukraine war is unsettling.
GFI------FXF, FXE. Late but better than never.
I’ll look into IAUM. Good notes on the others. For the near term, I’m less interested in growth and more interested in stability and independence from the USD, which is why I like FXF. I’m not sure if the FXE increase is a temporary move or not. We’ll see what happens with tariffs.
IAUM for gold has a lot lower fees. FXF isn't performing very well when compared to FXE and FXJ. I'm thinking of moving my FXF to IAUM which is moving up much more quickly.
You have several options: 1- Currency ETFs like FXF 2- Trade on the Forex 3- Open an account with a Swiss bank (can be legally difficult for Americans, due to regulations) 4- Open an account with a domestic bank denominated in CHF (I think HSBC offers that service) 5- Buy the currency at your local exchange bureau