GM

Equal-Emphasis-4129

Revenue from last 4-5 is almost same growing very slowly, but profitability is better every year. Its same playbook - reduce cost - get more profits. ## Block Inc - 5-Year Financial Summary (2021-2025) | Year | Revenue | Gross Profit | GM% | Adj. OPM% | |------|-------------|--------------|-------|-----------| | 2021 | $17.66B. | $7.50B | 42.5% | N/A | | 2022 | $17.53B | $8.89B | 50.7% | 5% | | 2023 | $21.92B | $10.24B | 46.7% | -2% | | 2024 | $24.12B | $10.40B* | 43.1% | ~17% | | 2025 | $24.00B | $10.24B | 42.7% | ~18% | * generated from Claude Real reasons : - Cash App is struggling to monetize beyond P2P transfers — it has 57M monthly actives but low revenue per user vs. its potential • Square is losing merchant market share at the high end to Stripe, Toast, and Adyen • Dorsey’s attention is fragmented across Block, Bitcoin advocacy, and broader tech commentary

superstition40

Yes I remember years ago GM laying off people and they dragged the CEO to a congressional hearing for him to explain why he sucks at his job

TonguePunchMyPoopBox

Jesus H. Christ look at that 75% GM and that ridiculous guidance.

NetSage

I can't judge but I would sell eventually before the crash. [Tesla Market Cap More Than Market Cap of Toyota, BYD, GM, Ford, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, Stellantis, Geely, Ferrari, BMW, Volkswagen Group, Honda, Nissan, Renault, XPENG, and NIO Combined - CleanTechnica](https://cleantechnica.com/2026/02/19/tesla-market-cap-more-than-market-cap-of-toyota-byd-gm-ford-hyundai-kia-mercedes-benz-stellantis-geely-ferrari-bmw-volkswagen-group-honda-nissan-renault-xpeng-and-nio-combined/) But what do I know you seem to be doing fine.

milkplantation

Which domestic manufacturers? Isn't the issue that many of those manufacturers have more or less left? CAT, NUE, GM? There aren't many that seem to make much sense.

SecretlyARaven

Sage looks sooo happy, calls on GM

sandee_eggo

Agreed. Insurance is a form of leverage, as is real estate development, which Munger is how he got rich in the 1960s. Say more about GM.

accutaneprog

Lol spoken like someone that has never worked in corporate. As someone that has worked at the GM levels, if a VP blames a consultant for a huge mistake...the VP will be axed and the team potentially dismantled. The consultant will be long gone by then.

gainsusmaximus

Puts are obvious, here which is why tomorrow will be green thank you for your attention to this matter. GM. Regard

Bringyourfugshiz

Well, it depends on how long you plan on living. Lets say you make it to 80. If you started collecting at 62, you would have gotten 307k. If you waited until 70, you would have collected 273k. Its really not until ~85 and on that it would have been better to have waited. However, you also needed to work full time an extra 8 years, which you could have been enjoying more thoroughly. There are probably a lot of factors to consider including health, historical family life expectancy, retirement savings outside of SS and your expected cost of living. As an anecdotal reference, my dad retired early having worked for GM for decades (when pensions were a thing) but died at 52. He didnt get to enjoy retirement very long, but enjoyed it a heck of a lot more than if he waited

AlfB63

I don't buy into the idea that TSLA is more than a car company. At least not much more.  But for those invested in it, you better hope it is.  At its current market cap, it's worth more than the next 35 biggest car manufacturers. Ones like Toyota and GM. That's insane in my opinion.  Note: Data came from AI and not confirmed but likely correct.

BFox1982

GM! Remember, she doesn't have a low libido, she just doesn't want to have sex with you.

Peppertheredfox

Car vending machine company still has a 73 billion market cap. Larger than F and roughly the same as GM 😂

cloud7100

Do you remember the Great Recession? Too young? I had finance professors back then openly debating if the US financial system would exist by the time I graduated. Societal collapse was imminent. Everyone was laid off, losing their life savings and homes, pulling money out of banks to bury in their back yard. \~5000 Americans committed suicide. Director of the Fed, Ben Bernanke, was publicly announcing we were heading for a decades-long Great Depression 2. My 70-year-old neighbor came out of retirement because his nest egg was gone, got a job with GM, only for GM to immediately go bankrupt. If you don't remember the apocalyptic talk and headlines back then, I'm guessing it's because you were still in diapers. Or alternatively need to take of one those memory tests the President likes to brag about. \--- The nation can be in a social decline, moving in a direction antithetical to your ethics and lifestyle, without being in an economic decline. Imperialism is very profitable, see the British Empire under Victoria. So is destroying the planet, eliminating all safety regulations, and encouraging corporations to bribe public officials. Legalizing slavery would spike the Dow to new ATHs. Being a successful investor requires separating your investing strategy from your personal beliefs. Nobody cares when you HODL a losing position because it's the right thing to do.

Carfar_Farcar

Yeah man I hope the Dolphin's new GM drafts some players worth a fuck this year. Chris Grier can eat my entire asshole.

devonhezter

Mary and GM led huh. Who got bailed out by the govt again ?

Danixveg

Or in 2017 when he called the dude a pedo.. that was the end of Musk for me personally. Ford or GM should have bought Tesla in 2019 when they were in serious trouble.

Rare-ish_Birb

Ford, GM. But seriously, buy puts afterwards.

Liability049-6319

Someone with the initials GM bout to be found dead in their cell

donjuantomas

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therealjerseytom

100% on GM. 😅 It was a known gamble. Made up for it on some other stuff at the time.

Explorer_1990_

Even I am from Hungary, I usually watch CBS Evening News in Youtube. Tony Dokupil is nice, kind, but he is not comparable to David Muir from ABC World News Tonight. I saw that Trump interview in Detroit at GM factory made by Tony Dokupil, that was not a proper interview, just "avoiding uncomfortable questions". The same CBS Evening News, where Dan Rather in 2000s dared to ask less comfortable questions.

Icy_Sign_908

China EVs are crushing it because they're cheaper and better than what Detroit is making. Ford and GM are scared because they can't compete on price. Instead of complaining they should just make better cars. The market doesn't care about your excuses, it cares about value.

WillowFantastic9076

Sounds like good competition! Ford and GM need to get better or cheaper. Isn't that how capitalism is supposed to work?

graphic-dead-sign

Ford and GM are known as expensive junk vehicles.

Quick1711

Here is the thing, we as a country are trying to prop up shitty companies making shitty products for nostalgia purposes (Ford,GM,etc) while China is progressing at a pace we can’t even begin to compete with. It’s isn’t over but if we don’t get realistic about who comes out the other side of history we are going to have a LOT of catching up to do.

Quick1711

So we will bail out Ford, GM and WB? Good thing we pay all these taxes. Wouldn’t want a shitty business to go under, huh?

AccomplishedBus81

i bought a new GM in 2023 and that piece of shit is in the shop every 2-3 months. most recently 2 weeks while waiting on a 15 cent rubber o-ring. When that warranty is up im out

Successful_Shake1102

Maybe if Ford and GM started to make decent cars that would not complain that much? Typical American company whining. Bring the tariffs on so we don’t have to innovate and keep selling shitty cars.

7148675309

Ford was not bailed out - just GM and Chrysler.

RudyGiulianisKleenex

The same Ford and GM that have decided to massively scale down their EV operations

Independent-Wolf-832

No threat to Ford or GM. They will be bailed out by American taxpayers for whatever amount they lose internationally. The same taxpayers who are forced to buy their junk, plastic toy cars and keep ripping them off since there is not a free market in the US.

hareld10

I use to work in GM (and my entire org was sent home), so that's double meaning for me haha

Mufasa_LG

That's funny, since Ford's rank higher on reliability scores, and GM have had many lawsuits over their V8s blowing up en masse.

JacobMcJacobzon

GM wasn't bailed out for the Equity investors (they lost their investment). Government stepped in to protect union jobs which are a good vote bank for politicians.

PlayerHeadcase

Yeah while Ford, GM and the Eu manufacturers were spending billions lobbying politicians to delay the EV take up, the Chinese were investing in EV tech. They made their own bed, now they get to lie in it.

CucumberExpensive43

GM voluntarily exited the European market a few years ago and Rivian doesn't even sell anything here. What the fuck do they want now?

Real-Ranger4968

You mean you can’t compete?!? I’ve studied the labour structure and subsidies provided by the Chinese government: From a labour perspective, they have a huge advantage simply because it makes sense. EVs need less people, they don’t have people turning bolts and moving parts between robots making $130k a year…this is minimum wage jobs. Their factories employee 1/3 of what the US does. From a subsidy point of view, the US had implemented tons but they are all gone now… From a tech perspective, China is 10 years ahead…including how their industries are set up. So REALLY what Farley is trying to say is that you as CUSTOMER MUST PAY MORE so all of them can swim in their bonuses, pensions, etc….and they SHOULD refuse to accept the new reality. And serious, who tf wrote this article?! Can you send them a message ?? GM JUST CLOSED A FACTORY IN CANADA….and they now complain Canada will manufacturer Chinese cars?!???

gizamo

It's not even remotely close to what China has done in terms of subsidies. I don't think anyone suggested the US gift to GM was done well. I certainly never said that.

No_Fox

Bailing out GM wasn't enough of a subsidy? Where did that lead? Straight to inefficiency, continued poor decisions, lack of innovation and padding up more of the executive's wallets.

gizamo

The US government should have taken ownership of GM and then subsidized the entire EV supply chain, all EV infrastructure, and funded EV research. But, even then, to compete with China, the US would have to have their own genocide for the slave labour... something something Uyghurs, Xinjiang, lithium, aluminum.

foulpudding

I think a lot of people don’t get this. They get so caught up in the idea that Ford, GM, etc. don’t make the smaller cheaper cars that people want, but they never stop to think what it will take to actually make those cars.

ANTI_FASCIST_USA

Yup. Fuck Ford, GM, Tesla…. Bring the Chinese cars to America. Make these shitbag companies compete.

Mobile-Bar7732

In order to compete Ford, GM will have to automate and bring a lot of manufacturing in-house. It will basically cut American jobs. > BYD (Build Your Dreams) leverages high-level automation, with some plants, like the Xi'an facility, operating at ~97% efficiency using AI-guided robotics, Automated Guided Vehicles (AGVs), and smart, real-time logistics. This vertical integration—producing ~75% of parts in-house—includes automated battery, motor, and semiconductor production.

7148675309

Maybe they should lower their prices. Plus how is this relevant to GM - since they sold Opel/Vauxhall to Peugeot - they sell next to nothing in Europe- save a handful of Cadillac EVs in a few countries. Ford f’ed themselves over by getting rid of cars and hoping people would buy only SUVs. Stupidos.

callsonreddit

Rivian, Ford, GM CEOs warn China EVs pose existential threat as European market share jumps 6.1% YoY [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/from-slippery-slope-to-existential-threat-auto-ceos-sound-alarm-on-chinese-competition-153037342.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/from-slippery-slope-to-existential-threat-auto-ceos-sound-alarm-on-chinese-competition-153037342.html)

SirAnthony73

Way back in 1998 when I owned a GM dealership and a separate used car lot I used to buy off lease Nissans Honda Toyotas from a third party lease company and use a program they had to release these three year old under 50k. The payments and down money were low like 1999 down 199 a month for a pathfinder 4x4 back then. The big issue though is 1. Had to outbid other dealers for the good stuff that didn’t need $2000 of reconditioning before you could sell it 2. And as usual finding enough good cars There isn’t a “Used Car Factory “ just just know this plans Achilles heel is Supply of inventory at a reasonable purchase price! Even as a dealer You can’t steal enough Used Cars. FYI there are more used cars sold privately and at the low end then there are 2-4 year old cars at Dealers And there is still a premium for good used product as since Covid no manufacturers have gotten production up to pre covid days. So less new cars means less used the following years And chances are a Dealer car make more under traditional selling/financing than going through a lease process. In new cars means less leasing it’s different since the manufacturer incentives the dealer on leases penetration and terms. In theory UC Leasing can have a payment advantage but in reality it’s hard to come by given competitive purchasing issues and recon costs imo

M18PowerKing

I see them way more often than Cybertrucks or GM ev trucks. I almost never see ford lightnings.

Wide_Air_4702

Most likely AI will condense into something like autos did in the US. A "Big Three" who are the major players The GM, Ford, and Chrysler of the AI world.

TeamDisrespect

Oh I agree with you.. nothing at all to do with AI. I was just pointing out the 24% in 6 months 50% in a year is an anomaly based on the quick dump it took when they rolled out tariffs.. like there’s no reason to think it can maintain that trajectory- it’s trading at almost the same price it was in 2006. Great buy when it does sneak under 10.. I made a decent play when it was at 4 (when GM went BK).. but F may trade in the 10/25 range forever.

DrHarrisonLawrence

Completely agree. I waited 45 minutes to be able to order once, and there were 15 people there. Why did this happen? I can explain: I walked in, went to a counter for in-store purchases (not pick-ups) and waited in a line at the counter for 15 minutes. My time comes up and I was told that I couldn’t buy at the counter. I had to place my order beforehand and pick it up at the counter. Okay cool, makes sense. Which counter? They tell me to stand in the other line for the other counter and someone will help me. Every one of their cashiers were high, it was offensively lazy to me as a customer. And I smoke everyday lol, just not at work. So the high cashier tells me, see those people over there in that line? You gotta wait in that line at that counter. They’ll be able to help you out! So I wait in that line for 5-10 min, and explain the same conversation to this new person. They tell me I can’t order from them and that I have to have an existing order for pick up. They tell me to do place an order online with my phone and it can be ready in 15 minutes. So I try ordering on my phone, get to the checkout page, and it tells me I cannot buy anything because I am not a Nevada resident. Okay, that one’s on me too, I was just visiting. But that was frustrating as hell and I ask the cashier now what to do, this time interrupting them with another customer who was in the line being me. They say I HAVE TO ORDER ON THE KIOSKS AT THE FRONT DOOR So at this point it had been 30 minutes with no order placed, and no product purchased or received. I went directly to the GM and explained why this is unacceptable. She was SUPER cool about it, gave me 2x of everything that I bought, plus a free joint. Kudos to her for doing that for my dumbass. I told her she gained a customer for life!

padfoot0321

I think customers do respond. Look at Nissan, I think the individual demand for Nissan has reduced significantly over the years. People favored better products. I think only GM comes to mind for a good US quality product.

elictronic

Hard to teach someone who is incentivized not to listen. Car dealerships earn 50% of their gross margins on vehicle repairs. Half of the money coming in the door is from that small repair shop on the property. Convince someone to give up half their business that is much of the driver for even existing in the first place. GM went through this with some of the EV releases and bought out many of their dealers who just hard refused to support.

Torczyner

I owned an electric Focus. The fact you don't know it existed is funny. Ford did what the other big companies did and limp wristed the EV effort. The focus EV range was trash, the Mach E charging and quality was garbage, the truck is not an EV platform but a redone regular f150 etc. Dodge did the same BS and same with GM. Instead of developing actual EVs, they keep trying to use Ice platforms covered to EV. Until they design an actual EV platform, and overcome dealer issues, they'll continue to drown.

Skittler_On_The_Roof

They're between the same rock and hard place companies like Harley Davidson are.  Even if they want to innovate, a lot of their key demographic is allergic to it. Harley learned by building an actually good product in the V-Rod.  American HD owners HATED it.   Regarding the Bolt- it was reported/believed GM took an $8-$9k loss on every one sold.   Outside of high-end trucks and SUVs, in much lesser volume than now, I don't see how the big 3 will survive beyond the next decade.  The pivot to small, efficient and innovative cars is an uphill battle their competitors don't have.  UAW costs, red tape, investors who see the billions lost on EVs here, and alienating the existing customer base that's keeping them afloat.  And now even Japan and Korea need to be worried about China.

dalivo

GM went hard on electric SUVs, not trucks. But the really large ones are insanely expensive, so saw very small volume. Electric CUVs are still seeing some business, though.

TheLord_Of_The_Pings

All I said was that Ford would never realistically decline bailout money unless they had reasons. And those reasons would not be altruistic. I never told you to buy GM. If I were going to tell you to buy a vehicle it would not be a domestic car. Stop fanboying things. It’s weird.

Hot_Maintenance7461

I'll never buy GM between the ignition killings and the bailout. Same as I don't buy nestle products. Ford knows the value of its name and protects it.

Skittler_On_The_Roof

That's the only spot they had margin on.  Nobody under 40 wants a Ford anyway, and they certainly didn't want to pay the US production cost premium when Toyota and Honda are churning out good cars cheap.   It really was one of the few good decisions Ford, and GM for that matter, have made in many years.  

Low-Froyo908

you target the demographics of owners. GM/Ford already dominate the large SUV market. If you've visited a school in anytown, USA you'd realize how prevalent these are as family vehicles. my argument is that truck owners have a very diverse set of needs. you cannot look at total sales of f150s and say "wow, we sell so many of these, an EV is a sure thing!" how many of the needs does an EV pickup overlap? I argue the needs of a family SUV are almost perfectly overlapped by an EV-SUV. Thus, the adoption rate would be much higher, and overall higher than a small percentage of truck owners willing to switch.

Junior-Lychee2755

I have no idea, but the orange shitstain sure loves harrassing Carney Canada. Maybe Ford and GM will be compensated to a certain extent for their losses, like farmers are? Insane, of course, but Trump *is* insane.

TheLord_Of_The_Pings

Even if you ignore the engine. The rest of the truck around it is also a giant piece of shit. If you want non-stop electrical problems, buy yourself a GM. Absolute garbage vehicles.

LowSkyOrbit

I think GM is getting better. Buick and Caddy are looking much better. Chevy reminds me of Toyota 5 years ago. VW/Audi really need to step it up. The ID line is blander than unflavored yogurt. The Atlas reminds me of a 90s Ford Explorer. Honda can make fun looking cars. They just keep them in Japan. Acura needs a win so bad or is it time to just drop the facade? Toyota Prius looks amazing. They need to do more of that. BMW is all over the place. The pig nose is amazing and bigger the better I say! Mini finally moving away from the historic look is a good way forward. MB needs to think about the exterior more than the interior. Stellantis - oh jeeze. Do they even design new looks or keep recycling the same look?

Valuable_Falcon6330

Dude, US automakers have already been laying off Canadians for months now and playing games with our jobs. GM just shut down their EV plants here after swindling our government out of millions of dollars of funding. Why would we keep working with a partner that is flaky at best? Better to diversify and be open to deals with Chinese automakers maybe opening plants here in Canada rather than letting the US continue to strangle our market. The amount of cars being imported at the reduced rate is exactly how many Teslas have been sold in canada, in terms of the EV market it's opening the door, and allowing actual competition into a closed market.

Fishtoart

Both GM and Ford have decided to give up on the automobile business. Within five years both companies will only exist as a brand that is slapped onto Chinese EVs.

Waiting4Reccession

Ford and GM retarded ceos have flipflopped on EV multiple times. Especially GM.

Jeeperg84

It’s funny with them leaving the market you can see GM going HARD further into it, Ford could have easily made that Lightning plant more productive and even with the Dealer network being clowns continued to make it alas here we are with a massive sunk investment.

quiteCryptic

GM paid it back

BagPitt

This was true maybe 5 years ago but not anymore. The Chinese car market is arguably the most competitive in the world right now. It's an absolute bloodbath and only the top companies like BYD are surviving unscathed. There was an interview a while back from a GM executive who spent time in China under a GM-Nio collaboration and he highlighted how insanely aggressive the Chinese market was with zero mercy. If the Chinese auto makers are allowed to compete in the US even with 20, 30, 40% tariffs the American automakers are doomed.

Techun2

Oh, I was positive you weren't talking about the current GM truck engines. They are failing left and right, absolute botch job.

onusofstrife

GM makes the equinox ev and blazer ev. I have an equinox ev myself only minor complaints with it. It's also not expensive.

Low-Froyo908

if they would have made an electric explorer or expedition instead of the lightning it would have killed. i cannot fathom the decision to make a pickup electric over a family hauler SUV. really shocked GM/Ford went so hard on pickups instead of SUVs. Or, make an electric Maverick. A small work truck like that could have been fleet status for plumbers/electricians etc.

Ok_Instance7667

GM was bailed out back in the day - and has spent USD $30 Billion on stock buy-backs in the last decade. Ford is missing out on that sweet corporate welfare.

Due_Capital_3507

I'm pretty sure GM paid back their loan from TARP

vil-in-us

Even inside the US, if you want an affordable, reliable, efficient and AMERICAN-MADE car, SUV or pickup truck? Buy a Toyota. Seriously, they just make great vehicles that last forever and more of their manufacturing process is inside the continental US than GM, Ford, or whatever Chrysler got amalgamated into

Due_Capital_3507

Ford and GM are probably done for in the long term. They just cannot seem to innovate or build decent cars for a decent price

Akovsky87

I exited both my GM and Ford positions this year for nice gains. I feel smart

Clean_Bake_2180

I blamed what on protectionism? I said the only reason US car manufacturers are surviving is because of protectionism. They’re inherently uncompetitive and tariffs aren’t exactly going to incentivize Ford/GM into better engineering and faster innovation cycles. The only thing it’s doing is delaying their deaths.

Illustrious-Hawk-113

Ok so you’re just looking for whataboutisms got it. No intelligent discussion to be had. Tsla is a shitstock and in the next recession will get absolutely smoked. Also on a yearly chart GM has way outperformed TSLA. I think you may be slow

NotEasyOne_Regard

GM is up 72% so what? TSLA is underperforming and still has stock price increase. BYD operates in EV market. Ford also has EVs and it does not manage to sell EVs. If you look only at shares, you are blind.

Illustrious-Hawk-113

Are you slow? GM is up 72% in a year

Junior-Lychee2755

This can't be emphasized enough - it's the tariffs. GM is suffering from this, too. That's what you get for electing a moron who loves turning partners into enemies. And he *still* hasn't learnt his lesson :-/

DA6_FTW

Didn’t they do what they did right before GM and Chevy took all that Gov bail out money? I forget but I feel like a year or two ago Ford took out a big loan or something similar 

TheCommonGround1

Actually, Ford was not bailed out. They had borrowed 24 billion during the great recession through private equity. You are thinking of GM.

kylemh

Sorry. Who’s talking about GM in here?!

Neilleti2

GM was bailed out. Ford was not.

Neilleti2

Ford wasn't bailed out. GM was.

Hot_Maintenance7461

That's fucking bullshit. GM took a bailout and didn't pay back shit. Tax payers ate it. Ford took a loan and paid it back with interest. Ford avoided bankruptcy by taking a private 23 billion loan in 2006 against it's assets.

jgatto123

Not leaning in either direction, in 2008, when the government decided they would bail out the American auto industry, GM and Chrysler took the deal, this saved over 4 million jobs over the course of 2 or 3 years (I didn’t realize then how much as attached to just those two companies). The collateral damage to this however cost taxpayers somewhere north of 10 billion dollars just from this single event. Ford was the only one that was financially responsible enough and showed some level dignity and refused the bailout. That aside, I do agree that all auto makers, including Ford are out of control with the pricing of new vehicles. I’ve watch many carlines nearly double in price over the last 15 or so years. A car/truck that was $38k basically fully loaded now live in the $60-$65k ish price range. A main contributor to this is standardized modern safety equipment which, as a consumer, we can’t really do shit about. It’s wild to see things like the Navigator and the Escalade reach prices of $110k plus. Like wtf is going on there?!?

hgqaikop

GM can’t even build a V8 correctly

Hot_Maintenance7461

Ford didn't take a bailout in 2008 like GM and Chrysler 

NotEasyOne_Regard

Man, I know. Tell that to the regards here who think that the tariffs are killing Ford. Their strat for 2025 was crap, they are outplayed by chinese crap, Ford’s stuff is crap. In 2024, Ford was still bad but there were no tariffs. But whatever, Orange man bad, everything that happens is because of Orange man and so on. People don’t want to accept that Ford, GM and other companies suck.

PacosTacos88

He gave them all loans to bail them out and keep them afloat after the crash. The loans were all paid back with interest saving tens of thousands of jobs and keeping GM and Ford going

IllBuyYourCar

VW/GM heated seats >>

DaemonTargaryen2024

Any time. It's a dangerous logical fallacy to conclude – with 20:20 hindsight – that picking the few best performing stocks means you should concentrate your portfolio. It's not remotely repeatable on a go forward basis. [https://www.finra.org/investors/insights/concentration-risk](https://www.finra.org/investors/insights/concentration-risk) [https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-largest-sp-500-companies-over-time-1985-2024/](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-largest-sp-500-companies-over-time-1985-2024/) See Enron, Lehman, Kodak, AIG, Cisco, GM, GE etc.

slam_1970

💯 I started around ‘96-‘98 and had to go through ‘01 an ‘09 add in one large bad investment rt before GM restructured (lost 40k) and it ended up taking me way longer than my original forecast. Things have been rosy for everyone lately but the 💩 will hit the fan at some pt. Been retired for 6 yrs now and can confirm at the 500k mark the compounding really starts to bear fruit.

daninsatx

no kidding haha.. index funds the way i really go. this kind of experiment shows that is the way i should go. got lucky with nvidia.. GM, XLF, Fed X and a few more were positive but lost my shirt on Enphase, Paypal, and Square.

ah-boyz

Watch American Factory on Netflix. The Chinese workers looked young energetic and eager to work while the American workers are obese and looked like they still have a hangover from the day before. There was 1 lady lamenting how much the old GM factory paid. Well that factory like most of American industry is long gone now.

hotDamQc

The Republicans led by Trump like to say they need nothing from Canada but GM, Ford and Stelantis sales in Canada are 700 000 cars in 2025 and these numbers include a massive drop. They panic because they know we can easily replace them.

cyberdork

The top 3? More like the top 20. VW, Hyundai and GM are all just at $80bn. Ford is just at $50bn. Only outlier is Toyota with $300bn. Teslas marketcap at $1300bn is easily higher than the rest of the entire auto industry combined.