VC

porkypandas

I wonder what the copyright laws are. Cause Versant Ventures is a pretty significantly sized VC firm. I would've thiught that might be a little too close, but I dont know enough about the law

Holiday-West9601

Pretty sure they still haven’t made a profit! Typical VC, silicone valley shit. Keep pumping it with money, despite zero profits, then sell it to even dumber VC monies and walk away a billionaire like you did something great.

niall_9

Gemini is at the top in terms of many metrics. And who better to stay at the forefront? A hugely profitable company that can integrate AI across their offerings or a pre profit LLM company that needs VC / private equity $ to continue

oondae

Also, if you are wondering why the price is slumping so hard while btc is near ATH….. it’s because the “ruling class” (ETH foundation, founders, devs, vitalik, joe lubin, consensus, etc) are DUMPING on YOU! It’s the same with 99.99% of these scams. The only reason these cryptos exist is only there to sell to gullible retail “investors” and enrich VC and founders AT YOUR EXPENSE!

greenpride32

Do you understand what is the meaning of "risk"? I agree it is not there yet. But you have every tech giant in the world and countless startups working on AI. That group includes Google themselves. Not to mention Silicon Valley VC has poured money into AI for the past decade . Are you betting against all those groups? If the the answer is no, how sure are you that Google is going to come out on top when the dust settles? It's a risk.

Short_Swordsman

Spent a long time working with used clothing. I had a few beliefs: —Too many people are reselling profitably from thrift stores. They gotta get squeezed out by VC eventually. —Eventually, there will be a successful online retailer selling used goods that is *not a marketplace.* —At one point their market cap was way under their annual revenue. Like this thing was at fifty cents. It had been $4, then it tanked after a few bad quarters where they spent too much (but revenue was kinda good still), then they made some structural changes and started to climb out. So I said, “this’ll probably go back to $4 pretty fast.”

JeromePowellLovesMe

Use $1,000 to put down a deposit on a house near Silicon Valley. Use $500 to start a business. Use $2000 to hire coders to work in a garage. Grab some seed funding from a VC on a new internet company that I started that uses an algorithm to produce results. I'd name it Coogle. Sit back and enjoy the billions rolling in.

oondae

Almost every other crypto is a centralized VC scam meant to lure gullible investors. ETH for example had a 70% premine, doesn’t have a clear identity (changes constantly), is centralized and controlled by Ethereum Foundation. They constantly “upgrade” (this is not a good thing) random new “features” that are buggy and never come to light. Bitcoin has immaculate conception. It had no price for the first year or two. The creator benefitted none from it and left. It it organic growth. Bitcoin is better money. Its simplicity is its magic. Anyone that tells you Bitcoin is “dated” is just trying to sell you their scam.

Rivercitybruin

Another thing is Bezos and Gates had family money that could have helped early on Anything heavily VC financed gets very diluted Musk is the most extraordinary, i think.. Many good and bad ways

FatBastardsHungry

Warren Buffett sitting on cash due to retirement, and helping new CEO be able to deploy capital on their own track record. So similar to a PE/VC firm.

flash_dallas

Awful way to think of it, this doesn't answer the question at all. Cash money loses purchasing value over time too. A person with 1M in equity absolutely has access to 1M in cash, with extra steps, but it's there just like someone with a large portfolio can take loans out against their shares. These people started off with less angel investing capital or took less VC money so they started off with more of their companies they just held onto more of it over time.

financegate

In Germany we don’t pay taxes on crypto which has been held for more than a year. You’re welcome. If you’re bored and looking for the next adventure, I suggest you to invest in VC, you get to know a lot of cool stuff in any industry you like (gaming? Fintech? Yatch? You got it) and 12 M is not really a lot, but if you can make good use can shake you up for life. Source: I run startup advisory in Germany 🇩🇪

Aggressive_Luck27

I think a lot of people do. But it also masks the huge bot problem. Reddit started out faking user numbers when raising VC, and now they need to show user count to convince people their data is worth training AI on. So it's to their advantage to muddy the waters

cosaboladh

Really? I keep pumping money into mine and have yet to see a positive ROI. It seems like it's going to be *years* before they stop needing regular infusions of VC cash just to survive.

Jerhed89

All of those will require major investment to have competitors. China of course can probably do a lot of this on their own as they don’t need VC money with a State funded or owned initiatives. Google: While competitors to search is easy, replacing Android is the largest phone and IoT OS is a major challenge. GCP and YouTube competitors will also require absolutely massive investment, and then there is Waymo. Plus other product lines they do have. Nvidia: Not going to have a competitor outside of China. An org would need dozens of billions of Euros—or more—and decades of building production-Plants + R&D. Microsoft: Azure can’t be replaced overnight without huge investment and cost, and so many products or systems—many non-American—are designed for a Windows experience, whether it is using Azure, leveraging AD for their org with Microsoft products or integrations, running Windows Server, etc. Meta: Some of their products are probably the easiest to replace of this group, though their own AI initiatives would need some serious investment. Instagram and WhatsApp are sticky products, and I don’t think will be displaced quite so easily Etc, etc. I think I’ve made my point, replacing this tech would require significant investment, and major cost for organizations to migrate to these new products.

draw2discard2

The reason why it is absurd isn't because the private sector would replicate basic science in the real world. It is that if we lived on Planet Absurd that the authors--who again, used no data and did not even explain their model--inhabit, a planet on which fairly modest investments in R&D are differences in trillions of dollars every year, then investment in basic science would be so lucrative that of course the private sector would cover that. In fact the authors create a planet in which investment in R&D yields such massively exponential returns that it is a mystery why a giant VC firm is not doing this already. The answer being, of course, that we don't live on Planet Absurd. The least you could hope from economists is that their numbers add up.

corydoras_supreme

SBF was playing video games while meeting VC firms and they interpreted that to mean he was a genius.

probablyuntrue

>Marc Andreessen says when AI does everything else, VC might be one of the last jobs still done by humans. Egghead thinking he’s special 

probablyuntrue

>Marc Andreessen says when AI does everything else, VC might be one of the last jobs still done by humans. Egghead thinking he’s special 

ToweringDelusion

You’re just describing the other half of the current Republican Party. The billionaires/CEO’s may think he’s weird, but they 100% respect what he’s built with Tesla and SpaceX. I’ve listened to “All-In” long enough to notice that every single CEO/VC guest just has admiration for this guy. Not saying I agree, just pointing out something that’s been pretty clear. A bunch of idiots in their mom’s basement wouldn’t prop up the stock like this.

canadianguy77

I don’t know where he ever got the idea that there are VC guys itching to throw their time and money away at manufacturing facilities where they’ll never be able to turn a profit unless people are okay paying 50-60 dollars for a Barbie doll.

SyntaxDissonance4

No shit. We got smartphones and then...? "Let's just take existing actual services and put an app in between the people and the service, we'll do 1099 to dodge labor laws and use VC money to run the competition out of business then jack prices up" Ahh progress.

Silent-Strain6964

Ah yes, because every company wants capital expenses for these things... Good bye the dream of selling your company to some VC as you get shouldered with crazy capex that no one wants.

spidereater

A balanced budget would still require some bonds to be issued if only to roll over maturing bonds. It’s unlikely the budget would have a sufficient surplus to retire all the debt as it matures. You are correct that bond yields would drop. Typically when bonds yields drop money goes elsewhere. Investors want safety, but also yield. When yield on safe bonds goes down some money will move to riskier investments in search of yield. Just like when bond yields go up money moves there to get yield without the risk. It’s all a balancing act. You change the balance and things shift to compensate. Lower bonds yields probably make it easier for companies to borrow. So a bunch of the money will go to corporate bonds and the corporations will use that money to expand operations that might otherwise have been too expensive. Over all it likely leads to more investment in riskier things like IPOs or VC to new companies as people accept risk looking for yield.

Critical-Ad1007

It's absolutely nothing like neutral. The FDA is crippled. Cutting food safety, drug inspections, delaying protocol reviews for clinical trials, delaying approvals. For small biotechs trying to develop their only product, a several month delay could mean they run out of/can't get VC funding, and some new treatment we could have had is now just gone. This is just the one I work closely enough with I'm very aware of the impact.

6felt9

My slightly more bearish take on google relates mostly to proposed antitrust action and concerns over their cloud computing business. I have heard stories of customers being extremely dissatisfied in googles customer service when anything goes wrong, even needing to get VC partners involved just to get responses from google engineers. It sounds like there is an incredible bureaucracy at google and this is common. In comparison to a company like CoreWeave, where engineers communicate directly with clients to address issues. I got out of tesla but still hold the others.

infomer

One was smart enough to know that embezzling VC money is a crime and fooling the public investors is…

MorganTargaryen

There is no trade deal with China we're not even negotiating with them anymore. We haven't even spoken to 60 out of the 150 countries . Smart money analysts project trade talks to last up to a year. Also Tesla just had 70% drop in sales, we may increase auto tariffs, and we are soon to announce semiconductor tariff rates. Last night trump quoted the Canada Prime Minister when he said that without selling goods to the United states Canada wouldn't exist trump's big response that he is so proud of is that yes it won't exist that's why he pressing more tariffs on Canada and that he wants Canada to become a state. His policies show that he's going to force Canada become a state or face economic ruin. All of these factors or why we are pumping to new ATH today. Just kidding it's insider trading retail was never meant to be involved in this and the fact that we thought we could is what continues to feed the HF/VC machine

MorganTargaryen

There is no trade deal with China we're not even negotiating with them anymore. We haven't even spoken to 60 out of the 150 countries . Smart money analysts project trade talks to last up to a year. Also Tesla just had 70% drop in sales, we may increase auto tariffs, and we are soon to announce semiconductor tariff rates. All of these factors or why we are pumping to new ATH today. Just kidding it's insider trading retail was never meant to be involved in this and the fact that we thought we could is what continues to feed the HF/VC machine

Shiraii92

I agree with Trump that China is a threat and that is were Im not aligning with Dalio. China stated they wanna spread communism around the globe. They are buying western property and companies but aside from Tesla are not allowing western people to buy in China without them being included via VC. They are technically way more evolved than the west and people take the whole more important than themselves. Surely some good stuff in it but they’re still a threat for the west. Might be not FairPlay but I think Trump is trying to drag them down and hoping the US will get out with less damage. There is 9T in credit to pay this year but tax income is only 2T. Doge is trying to pay a part of it. Tariffs are paying a part of it but more important getting companies back to USA, which then need to buy gold cards. Thats another part + more Jobs and more tax income. If it works out I think it can save the Dollar for some years.

frank_690

He created tsla and spacex then boring and neuralink and starlink... tsla was flailing and failing until obama rescued it by giving EV credits and tax subsidies for building his factory... spacex gobbles up nasa contracts... starlink survives because of spacex putting rockets in space so starlink can put satellites in space... boring got started wasted shit tons of VC money while it fumbled the ball in las vegas... then there is neuralink which gets the majority of its funding from VCs.. he starts lots of shit... but he doesn't really manage any of it -- he's like Trump in that respect ... he just puts his name on it.

S_CO_W_TX_bound

I thought google’s VC arm only had like 5% ownership. I hope it’s higher. I’m long googl. Totally agree tho, walk around SF and it’s all Waymo robo taxis. No other self driving taxis I noticed

im_a_squishy_ai

Absolutely agree, the EU wouldn't replace the US overnight, but we'd see the slow shift continue if the EU, probably led by Germany, made some changes. It's not actually the green agendas that are the issue. Ironically, if trump was slightly smarter, he could've used tariffs in a precise manner combined with US investment into green tech ology to super charge the US and cement America as the world leader in 21st century energy, instead we got "drill baby drill". The changes the EU would need would be some form of centralized investment structure. The US states all basically trade and get investment through NYSE and silicon valley VC firms. The EU doesn't have that same centralized approach (please correct me if I'm wrong). There are absolutely problems with those mechanisms in the US, but the ability to throw 500M at some company that's 18 months old trying to launch a rocket or something crazy has an immense catalytic effect on the economy and even if that fails, it drives other related areas of technology that spinoff and keep the chain going. For all its flaws, the US has found a system that is incredibly innovative, just doesn't share the results well throughout society. The EU seems to have better social structures to address that latter part, so I would think a centralized concentration of capital could be the match that helps get things going. Outsiders view, curious what you think?

ASaneDude

Word is (more so at SpaceX) they treat him like a clueless VC with a big blank checkbook than an actual executive. They try to keep him in the dark about operations and give him a dog-and-pony show when he comes around, hoping something else grabs his attention before too long.

Ok_Cry7572

Blackstone is now down 40% from its November highs, and is right back at its post-Liberation Day lows. Remember, this is probably the best run manager of private assets in the world, so just consider how your run of the mill PE or VC shop is looking right now.

Personal_Can_8433

XAI is VC and investor money.

Sankool

That's for when I move to VC

probablyuntrue

everytime I feel bad about how much oney I've lost, I look at crunchbase and see VC's invested 20MM on VR for dogs or some shit

AncientAckman

Don't short NVDA because Trump is killing trade. Short NVDA because Trump is killing corporate bonds, and no one is going to give VC money to unprofitable AI losers

plumber_craic

Thanks for taking the time to write that out. That was a good read, and a good point amidst all the doomerism. The next magnificent 7 are sure as heck not coming from Brussels or Beijing. And the majority of VC greenbacks are definitely not in favour of what's going on right now.

holypally0731

Why can't I join WSB? I enjoy WSB after working on research every day. Also, a solid finance academic makes 200-350k/9 month, not millions like you said. You meant successful investment bankers/hedge fund managers/VC PE guys.

Safe-Drag3878

The EU has shit fundamentals. It is massively over regulated, has an aging population and declining working age population, no innovation at all, no prominent tech or AI companies, no natural resources, no energy, nothing. Name one European company whose GenAI product is on pair with OpenAI or Gemini, just one. You can't. There is no innovation coming from this continent, all the biggest companies are literally fashion designers like LVMH or just banking companies. Nothing like NVDIA, Tesla, Microsoft, or Apple at all. Meanwhile the US has much less regulation, massive innovation in AI and tech and chips, massive VC funding available, one true single market, a growing working age population, cheap plentiful energy, and massive amounts of rare earth minerals. These factors are why the EU has barely grown since 2008, and why the US has grown. These factors are still relevant https://preview.redd.it/ukfbitqd31we1.png?width=1358&format=png&auto=webp&s=192457e5089e7da593be396602d66f751cf4c8ed

Safe-Drag3878

The EU has shit fundamentals. It is massively over regulated, has an aging population and declining working age population, no innovation at all, no prominent tech or AI companies, no natural resources, no energy, nothing. Meanwhile the US has much less regulation, massive innovation in AI and tech and chips, massive VC funding available, one true single market, a growing working age population, cheap plentiful energy, and massive amounts of rare earth minerals. https://preview.redd.it/wec6vf3w21we1.png?width=1358&format=png&auto=webp&s=e579e4e3fc685138119a5ed1a2a742a9811cd579

Agitated-Actuary-195

Ah, I see you fed my last reply to your favorite LLM and asked it to “fight back, but sound polite.” Cute. Let’s break it down calmly, with a little sunlight on the shadows you’re dancing in. “Show me where the malicious code is.” Classic sleight of hand “If you can’t prove it’s broken, it must be safe!” I never said IMG has a malicious contract. I said the absence of presale/VC/team tokens doesn’t equal safety. Projects rug every week with fully locked LPs and “clean” contracts. Because the danger isn’t always in what’s written it’s in what isn’t audited, isn’t governed, and isn’t communicated transparently. You don’t get points for not being evil today if there’s zero infrastructure to prevent it tomorrow. “Tax redistribution isn’t a security.” it’s telling that you took “traceable” a point about regulatory exposure and twisted it into “you must be hiding something.” That’s projection, not an argument. Second, let me give you actual signal: The SEC has stated that tokens offering passive income, where holders are rewarded based on others’ efforts or transaction volume, are extremely likely to be considered securities. See the SEC v. LBRY. Whether it’s auto-claiming or not doesn’t matter if holders are economically incentivised to do nothing while value accrues, it ticks the Howey Box. I don’t need a direct article about IMG specifically. That’s the point the framework applies whether you like it or not. “We advertised in Times Square like Apple, therefore credibility.” Apple also has audited financials, global regulation, and doesn’t rely on Discord mods and sarcasm as governance. Times Square ads are available for $40 a minute. You don’t prove legitimacy by showing up in flashing lights you prove it by delivering value, surviving cycles, and protecting users. If you think marketing is the same thing as trust, you’re not an innovator you’re just cosplaying corporate aesthetics. “27,000 holders isn’t hype.” The number of holders means nothing without retention, utility, and transparency. Remember SafeMoon? 3 million holders. Where are they now? If “community size” was the measure of success, we’d still be investing in Beanie Babies. “You never asked about our roadmap, here’s what we’re doing!” Rewards in SOL, utility, A community trade bot product. Letting a gym coach accept IMG ecosystem. Games in development adoption. You’ve listed possibilities, not deliverables. You can’t call it substance just because someone typed it in Discord and you hoped it sticks. And yes I did read the comments. I just didn’t confuse enthusiasm with execution. So look I don’t hate the hustle. But don’t throw a tantrum because someone held up a mirror and didn’t see the next Ethereum staring back. You want to prove critics wrong? Build. Ship. Audit. Register. Survive. Because until then, it’s not FUD it’s just foresight. I’m not fighting your project I’m just describing it without the emojis and hopium

Agitated-Actuary-195

Wow for a project that’s supposedly “transparent,” you sure spend a lot of time deflecting with neon signs, models, and buzzwords instead of, y’know, actual fundamentals. Let’s break it down since you’re clearly allergic to nuance: “No presale, no VC, no team tokens = no manipulation” No it just means there’s no one accountable when things go south. Locking a contract doesn’t mean it’s safe. Ever heard of malicious tax functions, stealth mint functions, or LP drainers? Code can be law — but bad code is still legal theft. If you think “locked = safe,” you’re already exit liquidity. “It’s just a tax redistribution” Right and that’s precisely why it may fall under securities definitions in multiple jurisdictions. If a token gives passive income to holders, regardless of how it’s engineered, regulators care. Saying “it’s automatic” doesn’t make it legal it makes it traceable. “Real-world visibility” You paid to run a billboard in Times Square. That’s not credibility that’s the Web3 equivalent of buying followers. Newsflash: scammers have done that too. “27,000 holders just means early” No, it means 27,000 people bought in during a hype cycle. That’s not a flex it’s a countdown to someone being left holding the bag. Especially when the main pitch is “don’t ask questions, just glitch.” “Keep typing, the glitch doesn’t stop” Cool story. Just don’t pretend that “glitch” is a business model. You’ve got zero roadmap, zero utility, and a community that thinks sarcasm is due diligence

yirtletirtle

someone said that TSLA is a public VC company where earnings don't matter.

No_Satisfaction3393

Copying the reply by Magissa1995, given you have decided to spam your.garbage everywhere: Wow, that was a whole TED Talk on how to completely miss the point. “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” = zero manipulation But somehow you twisted that into “no accountability”? Bro, the token config is locked on-chain. No one’s printing tokens behind your back. That’s more accountability than 90% of “serious” projects you probably bag-hold. “SOL every 5 minutes = securities risk” — It’s a transaction-based tax redistribution, not a promised yield from a company. There’s no “guarantee” — just code doing what it’s designed to do, transparently, on-chain. “Models. Glitch. Times Square.” You mean real-world visibility that meme coins only pretend to have? 27,000+ holders aren’t “glorifying herd mentality.” They’re just early — while you’re in here writing essays trying to convince yourself it’s all fake. But bro… keep typing. The billboard’s still glowing. The SOL’s still flowing. And the glitch doesn’t stop for Reddit comments

No_Satisfaction3393

Copying the reply by Magissa1995, given you have decided to spam your.garbage everywhere: Wow, that was a whole TED Talk on how to completely miss the point. “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” = zero manipulation But somehow you twisted that into “no accountability”? Bro, the token config is locked on-chain. No one’s printing tokens behind your back. That’s more accountability than 90% of “serious” projects you probably bag-hold. “SOL every 5 minutes = securities risk” — It’s a transaction-based tax redistribution, not a promised yield from a company. There’s no “guarantee” — just code doing what it’s designed to do, transparently, on-chain. “Models. Glitch. Times Square.” You mean real-world visibility that meme coins only pretend to have? 27,000+ holders aren’t “glorifying herd mentality.” They’re just early — while you’re in here writing essays trying to convince yourself it’s all fake. But bro… keep typing. The billboard’s still glowing. The SOL’s still flowing. And the glitch doesn’t stop for Reddit comments

magisa1995

Wow, that was a whole TED Talk on how to completely miss the point. “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” = zero manipulation But somehow you twisted that into “no accountability”? Bro, the token config is locked on-chain. No one’s printing tokens behind your back. That’s more accountability than 90% of “serious” projects you probably bag-hold. “SOL every 5 minutes = securities risk” — It’s a transaction-based tax redistribution, not a promised yield from a company. There’s no “guarantee” — just code doing what it’s designed to do, transparently, on-chain. “Models. Glitch. Times Square.” You mean real-world visibility that meme coins only pretend to have? 27,000+ holders aren’t “glorifying herd mentality.” They’re just early — while you’re in here writing essays trying to convince yourself it’s all fake. But bro… keep typing. The billboard’s still glowing. The SOL’s still flowing. And the glitch doesn’t stop for Reddit comments.

Agitated-Actuary-195

To come back on all the paid supporters getting you ready to be part with your cash... Don’t be a SUCKER No substance, all hype... Models pulling up,” “Glitch on,” “Stay poor” this is classic FOMO marketing, designed to provoke emotional reactions, not rational decisions. It mimics the meme coin pump-and-dump playbook, big promises, flashy stunts (e.g. Times Square), but no meaningful detail on fundamentals. Vague or misleading claims “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” sounds good, but it also means zero accountability and no clear structure or backing. Getting SOL every 5 minutes” raises serious regulatory concerns if it’s positioned as a guaranteed return - that can trigger securities law issues depending on jurisdiction. “No staking, no claiming” implies a passive income setup — which could fall under passive investment schemes, again drawing scrutiny. Promotes herd behaviour, 27,000 degenerates holding” glorifies crowd-following and normalizes reckless investing... “DYOR or don’t” mocks the idea of due diligence - ironically undercutting the trustworthiness of the post. 100% pump-and-dump setup... The tone and timing (“we’re live”, “glitching” “models”) are engineered to create urgency... it’s not clearly disclosing who is behind the project or how funds are managed, you’re dealing with market manipulation tactics. Bunch of influencers paid to promote this... if only they had a 10yr minimum sentence for idiots promoting this BS

Agitated-Actuary-195

I’ll say what I’ve said before… Don’t be a SUCKER… No substance, all hype... Models pulling up,” “Glitch on,” “Stay poor” this is classic FOMO marketing, designed to provoke emotional reactions, not rational decisions. It mimics the meme coin pump-and-dump playbook, big promises, flashy stunts (e.g. Times Square), but no meaningful detail on fundamentals. Vague or misleading claims “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” sounds good, but it also means zero accountability and no clear structure or backing. Getting SOL every 5 minutes” raises serious regulatory concerns if it’s positioned as a guaranteed return - that can trigger securities law issues depending on jurisdiction. “No staking, no claiming” implies a passive income setup — which could fall under passive investment schemes, again drawing scrutiny. Promotes herd behaviour, 27,000 degenerates holding” glorifies crowd-following and normalizes reckless investing... “DYOR or don’t” mocks the idea of due diligence - ironically undercutting the trustworthiness of the post. 100% pump-and-dump setup... The tone and timing (“we’re live”, “glitching” “models”) are engineered to create urgency... it’s not clearly disclosing who is behind the project or how funds are managed, you’re dealing with market manipulation tactics. Bunch of influencers paid to promote this... if only they had a 10yr minimum sentence for idiots promoting this BS

Agitated-Actuary-195

To come back on all the paid supporters getting you ready to be part with your cash… Don’t be a SUCKER No substance, all hype… Models pulling up,” “Glitch on,” “Stay poor” this is classic FOMO marketing, designed to provoke emotional reactions, not rational decisions. It mimics the meme coin pump-and-dump playbook, big promises, flashy stunts (e.g. Times Square), but no meaningful detail on fundamentals. Vague or misleading claims “No presale, no VC, no team tokens” sounds good, but it also means zero accountability and no clear structure or backing. Getting SOL every 5 minutes” raises serious regulatory concerns if it’s positioned as a guaranteed return — that can trigger securities law issues depending on jurisdiction. “No staking, no claiming” implies a passive income setup — which could fall under passive investment schemes, again drawing scrutiny. Promotes herd behaviour, 27,000 degenerates holding” glorifies crowd-following and normalizes reckless investing… “DYOR or don’t” mocks the idea of due diligence — ironically undercutting the trustworthiness of the post. 100% pump-and-dump setup… The tone and timing (“we’re live”, “glitching”, “models”) are engineered to create urgency… it’s not clearly disclosing who is behind the project or how funds are managed, you’re dealing with market manipulation tactics. Bunch of influencers paid to promote this… if only they had a 10yr minimum sentence for idiots promoting this BS

TheGreatLebowski

Anyone that runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC.

ShortRevolution6368

In 2002 he came to Washington DC to meet with VC about SpaceX. When I connected with him at a networking event he was telling me about how he was going to bring Space Tourism to market. That was 23 years ago. How many of you been to space?

Miserable_Wave4895

The whole VC/tech bros mo is oversell everything. Promise the moon and deliver a piece of shit car that drives you into a wall at high speeds. Make billions off of it. Rinse and repeat.

megabyzus

I'm assuming this is part of your compensation--a trick to limit salaries for 'startup' employees. In the unlikely case your company has a clear and confirmed IPO plan then you still need to think about it. Even in the case of IPO, there are usually strict limitations of who and when the shares can be sold in the market--basically freezing you out until the main funders (usually VC--angels have already been comp'd by VC) and officers cash out before you're allowed to. When your turn comes, chances are the shares have dropped value far below the value yours were originally given. Which leads to the impact of Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) on your taxes. You may be taxed on the inflated original value of shares given to you. Even if the share value drops (post-IPO), you sell at a loss and harvest tax losses it might take a few years to get your losses back since you can't get back all your losses in a year since there's a limit to annual tax loss harvesting--the remaining losses carry forward to future years until they're recouped. To summarize, unless your inside a unicorn, then USUALLY this doesn't benefit you. There may be exceptions but I haven't seen them.

Mesonic_Interference

I'm pretty sure it's her husband, Paul, who's the investments expert, at least in part because he founded the VC company [Financial Leasing Services](https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.financial_leasing_services_inc.ef08dda11627e947fb111f0cd87de5f5.html) and, according to the *People* article below, he owns a number of commercial properties in California. While double-checking my memory as I typed this reply, I discovered that in Feb 2024, *People* published what appears to be [a rather informative, comprehensive overview of Paul Pelosi](https://people.com/politics/who-is-paul-pelosi-nancy-pelosi-husband/). I remembered hearing him describe during some random video interview a few years ago how shockingly diligent he was about keeping his career quarantined from Nancy's dealings in politics. Do I believe he's had a perfect track record there? Of course not, but ever since I learned about his behavior despite how much seemingly misplaced ire people have for his wife, I've tried to make sure I at least keep myself rooted in reality. I really liked his quote in the article about the appearance of and his approach to ethical concerns: > "I think I have a good radar in terms of what kind of business investments would be inappropriate for me given her position. And I can't think of an investment I discussed with her and said, 'Is this a good idea or is it a problem?' " he explained, noting that in the past he's avoided opportunities that could draw criticism for Nancy. "So I've religiously steered away from anything that would look controversial to her position." Some time after that, he described what I'd call a quite respectable stance on being married to a much-more-famous US Representative: > "I understand, of course, that since a woman has had such a phenomenal success [people wonder], 'Who is this guy she's married to for 47 years and has five kids?' I understand the curiosity about that. But it's her celebrity. It's her career. It's her responsibility. I'm enormously supportive and proud about it but I see absolutely no percentage in trying to share the limelight," he told The Washington Post. ----------- Sorry for the unexpected wall of text, but I find Paul Pelosi to be an interesting enough figure that I imagine others would probably find some value in reading about his weird circumstances yet seemingly normal, especially by Congressional standards, way of dealing with life.

slick2hold

What happened to sears? I recall the same exact arguments used. Did shareholders benefit or were they scammed by VC firms and hedge funds?

MrTim90

Then you are most likely in the VC in discord already, you basically winning too much.

oldwisefern

The fundamentals are solid?! Are you insane? "The company has yet to generate revenue" If you are a VC investor, who understands the cutting edge technology idea and IP this company has, IN DETAIL, then you may want to invest in this company alongside dozens or hundreds of other extremely high risk bets. Given the market cap is $4 BILLION DOLLARS and a cashier at Wendy's generated more income and profit than this company last year I can guarantee you that the risk to reward profile of this company makes it untouchable. The companies losses on a year over year basis have accelerated to almost 600 million. 1 billion in liquidity is less than a 2 year runway before they dilute you or take on debt.

pass-me-that-hoe

Tax cuts and mean reversal from post pandemic growth delusion and bunch of copium and delusion that somehow this orange moron is tech and VC friendly.

Miserable_Wave4895

All his VC bros

Ltmajorbones

Blackrock and the VC's interested in keeping Elon at the forefront of their agenda up until the point he becomes useless and they move onto the next big thing.

Gunzo250

I pay them a ton of money every year in taxes. I do own their debt, bonds. Yet Biden increased the debt by 55% with a 2% population increase. Guys like Bezos had good ideas, got money from VC’s to grow and weren’t expected to be profitable until they could establish their business. If they start reporting multiple quarters of Low earnings, not even losses, damn right you will see budget cuts. The problem with the government, there has never been a budget cut!!!!!!!

Reasonable_Tower3816

when they cite her net worth they are including her husband who is a VC founder and has owned half of san francisco real estate for the last 50 years no shit he has alot of money lol

taffy_laffy

need someone create a venturecapitalbets sub. we pool money, buy out companies, draw every dollar from the company to enrich ourselves and pay out based on your initial investment. need some smart VC guys to start this so i can invest.

Expensive-Fun4664

Rates aren't controlling investment. VC investment is above 2020 levels. Tech profits, at least prior to Trump taking over, were at all time highs. Tech is laying off because they wanted to take the power back from the workers and they can force the remaining people to do multiple jobs at once. They'll use AI as the excuse, but AI isn't doing anyone's job outside of maybe a call center.

chucchinchilla

Air Force One: I would just like to point out that Trump is displaying the replacement aircraft(s) to the VC-25's that serve as Air Force One and it includes the new livery he chose last time, which is basically the livery of his personal jet with the colors flipped and an exact copy of the waving American flag seen on his jet.

Pretty-Substance

IT maybe but that’s not the only thing the economy exists of. China has had 25+ years of acquiring the knowledge and craftsmanship to produce all high quality goods and the level of money that is poured into tech development is insane. Not quite Silicon Valley VC level yet but more than any other competitor on earth. They’re just getting started and they have all the knowledge now to create IP. Frankly the west has lost its traditional advantage of 200 years of industrialization in the last 30 years.

UsualLazy423

I think this is due to a structural change in the way VC funding works. Nowadays VC holds onto high quality small caps until they are no longer small caps, so the small caps that are traded on the market are the ones that could not attract VC funding. You’ll never be able to buy another Amazon or Facebook as a small caps for example. Look at SpaceX and OpenAi, each over $350b, and not traded publicly. Tesla was perhaps the last great small cap buy.

CyberInu4200

I think USD will recover eventually, maybe near the end of this admin. Depends on the Fed as well, but yeah some near term loss of buying power is inevitable. Can't do much if these clowns can't realize that advanced economies almost always import goods and in exchange get a thriving services & financial industry alongside the best start-up hubs and most VC funding. There's still the option of holding excess liquidity and non emergency funds in currencies that will appreciate then buying back more USD later if your broker offers spot fx exchange.

FeloniousDrunk101

So VC taking over your company and harvesting it for parts mob-style?

Training_Pay7522

If Meta was forced to sell instagram, even if nobody had the cash to do so on hand they would raise the money to do so in VC, PE or stock markets.

Evening_Feedback_472

He used to run a VC... He's worth like 600 mill

Significant_Slip_883

Wake up kid. Liberal democracy doesn't monopolize science and technology. China has definitely disproven this weird liberal belief (Yeah, neither liberal democracies or VCs are needed. China's tech ecosystem had a bit of VC input before. Now it's much less so and everything is proven to be fine.) Time to wake up from propaganda and face reality. If you wanna beat authoritarian countries on science and tech, it's time to prove it, not claim it.

hersons__penis

this is why you would make a shitty VC or CEO looking to merge or acquire another company

citizen_of_europa

Let’s say you’ve come up with a new product that has never existing before. A singing razor or something. To be successful you need to generate a lot of “buzz” around your product. You need lots of people to try it, like it, review it, tell their friends etc.  And of course you’re going to want to try to patent it to protect your IP, and to sell it at a reasonable cost you’ll need to mass manufacture it. All of this takes a tremendous amount of money.  Even more if your country has punitive tariffs preventing you from seeking the help of well-tooled assembly lines in other countries.  An angel Investor got you started and now they’ve brought in some VCs to help fund everything above.  Those people only want one thing (and it’s not a singing razor). It’s to cash out as soon as possible for as much money as possible. To do that they have to drive up the “perceived future value” of the company. The best way to do that is lots of happy customers. To get lots of customers as quickly as possible the money people would LOVE for you to sell the product at a loss, particularly if there is a hook delivering ongoing revenue (proprietary replacement blades and a subscription to a streaming music service).  They don’t care if you turn a profit of $1 this quarter if they can sell their 17% stake 4 quarters from now for $75M.  Market share and lock-in helps you build a “moat” around your company / product and increases its perceived value. So no, at least if you were a good VC you would not necessarily want to see a profit in your venture. In fact you may be really pissed off about that. 

DefNotPastorDale

I’ve got a feeling that you’re so far from a VC that you have to put your Wendy’s order on your dad’s credit card.

DataCassette

Good. Do it. Smack his assclown VC backers with service taxes.

hikeonpast

I hadn’t heard of them before, but from a quick glance they look similar to WeFunder, which lets unaccredited investors (SEC definition) acquire an interest in private entities at various stages of maturity. It seems like a super cool idea on the surface, but investing in individual startups is much riskier than investing in individual public companies, which is somewhat more risky than investing in baskets of stocks (mutual funds). If you look at successful VC funds, they have several dozen startups in a fund, and only a few will make it big, and over half will fold. The way to make money with investing in startups is to spread the risk around. You can’t do that if you’re buying one or two startups. VC funds also have the benefit of insight into the reputations of the founders of each company, and often garner seats on the board to observe and influence their investment. You don’t get any of that visibility as a retail investor. TLDR; the risk is immense and the likelihood of finding a winner is slim.

SPAC-MAN

I actually think is interesting. Discounted token sales happen all the time. [https://tangem.com/en/glossary/token-sale/#:\~:text=usually%20at%20a%20discounted%20rate](https://tangem.com/en/glossary/token-sale/#:~:text=usually%20at%20a%20discounted%20rate) This reads like they will just do a token treasury strategy but essentially acquire the token at some discount to the market price. It's like a crypto VC acquiring the token, but in a public vehicle. If it trades at the underlying market value, then it would be accretive to the stock price. Buy $100 million at a 30% discount (i.e. $70 million) means you have 7m shares outstanding or $14+ per share if the market values it at $100m (100/7). If that happens, I guess you can rinse and repeat. It actually doesn't surprise me that someone took a flyer on the warrants. What am I missing?

FrostyParking

A few of those points suffer from bias. Freedom isn't a prerequisite for innovation, history has proven that even under authoritarian regimes like Rome, innovation can thrive. Neither is VC if you have a centrally planned economy under an authoritarian state with a clear plan. As for English and the USD, that can be changed. Education quality, well sometimes numbers matter more, look at the engineering graduates China's producing v what the US is delivering yearly. Anyway, just pointing out a few things that isn't as simple as you've attempted to lay out.

SophisticatedLogic

One more market downturn and Daddy Buffett will walk in Silicon Valley wearing his boomer pants all the way upto his nipples and carrying cold hard $300 B and showing them VC kids how daddy operates 

Kvenner001

I think they are looking to purge foreign investors and replace them with VC investors who are given an insider view. Much easier to get kickbacks from them than a national state.

toddypicker

Maybe it's a four hour video explains how Jack Welsh and the VC vampires as asset stripped and outsourced America ? Lol no it'll be 9 hours of voodoo maths and chemtrails.

ignatious__reilly

Europe is also responding https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/europe-plows-ahead-with-retaliatory-tariffs-ynY9AxLZC4WPxD6JquLX?st=VC1n4N&reflink=article_imessage_share And yet, the market is going up.

jokikinen

Describes perfectly the length of thought that your average Trump voter is capable of. Vance is spewing as sensible garble from his VC seat as I am in reddit comments.

ThaToastman

I have 2 degrees from Stanford am enrolled in a MBA program and work as a VC in silicon valley :) Almost 100% of my peers have the same background. My comment is from personal experience and from having countless friends of equal background. Job market is shit and you, someone who clearly is an outside, have no clue what you are saying else youd never have typed those words. Yes people at those schools can be elitist, but many people there are not born-rich assholes. A lot of those who come from less are the ones graduating GSB unemployed bc turns out, having a dad or friend who can just hire you is still the best way to find work. Hope this helps!

karambituta

lol it was like this until Trump came xD we are having dollar as global currency, USA was safe because of predictable politics. USA is rich only because of that. This is the reasons everybody invest in sp500, VC are in US. Trump is really trying to destroy that. I bet Americans will love to see how they stock market will look without support, or how printing more dollars will affect inflation if it is only used by 300 kk American people instead of 6 kkk people around the world, as everybody import from USA or at least trade resources devalued in US dollar

WhyUReadingThisFool

Isnt it that if president is impeached before 6months has passed, that VC does not step in, but it goes straight to elections? I think i read that someplace but i could be wronf

555-Rally

China can dump 700B of US Treasuries on the bond market and push interest rates higher as a result...forcing the fed reserve to buy them back in essence our Central bank paying the Chinese in cash, which they will then dump into buying gold - raising the gold price and flooding the market with more cash devaluing the US$ in the process. It's a drop in the bucket really at only 700B, but Japan...S.korea, UK ...all are doing the same already. The world doesn't want USD unless we are selling goods to them. They use USD and/or US treasuries as collateral for international banking. Now that we are playing bully talking annexation and raising tariffs they don't even need it for that. If it's going to fall in valuation, they don't need it to shore up their own currency then. Zero, 0% reserve requirement in US banks - https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm FDIC basically broke after bailing out VC capital (SVB and others) - https://thehill.com/business/banking-financial-institutions/3910614-former-fdic-chair-svb-bailout-was-an-overreaction/ https://bankingjournal.aba.com/2024/10/fdic-deposit-insurance-fund-reserve-ratio-grew-in-first-half-of-2024/ $129B left...they are trying to grow it back, but it's not enough for a real problem. And so...will the FDIC be printing money to bail out banks? TARP was $700B...we will be well past that when the Chinese re-sold goods are no longer selling with 30% inflation at a minimum is put on them, along with the inflation put on exports we won't be selling so much of... No country is going to be doing well, but don't pretend we are in some grand position here in the US. We've been the shiniest penny in the pile for a while, but you really need to squint hard to be seeing a dime. The writing is on the wall, we are about to default on our debt with the endless debt ceiling debates and looking to cut the social services ...but unwilling to raise taxes to pay for any of it, even on the most wealthy. It's been coming since 2008 - and no one did anything to make it right in the last 17 yrs...so FAFO how bad it can get.

jasperCrow

Wen WSB 24 hour non stop telegram VC?

Disastrous_Week3046

We can only hope North Korea hacks and steals every coin related to Trump. Only way to make this fat fuck hurt. Also, fuck every single VC and crypto CEO who donated money to this piece of shit

devereaux

That's adorable. Maybe you should actually go to b-school for an MBA first before popping off about a process you've never even been through. So many people on their MBA journey actually feel entitled to MBB, VC/IB/PE, LDPs, and certain tech roles and then find out that recruiting isn't actually what they thought it would be. Many people feel like because they made it through the door into a great school that suddenly they are owed pay and prestige work. It turns out that recruiting is competitive and you have to actually be good -- it doesn't really matter that someone specifically goes to HSW, an M7, or even in most respects a T20, because they all have to make it through the actual recruiting process and lots of people at all those schools have great GMAT/GRE scores, work experience, ambition, and potential. McKinsey still hires people every year from Goizueta, Ross, McCombs, and other schools that aren't HSW. As do all the other major consultancies, tech companies, VC/IB groups, and major corporate players in other industries. People getting their MBA from Stanford GSB have incredible recruiting opportunities every year and IMO "failure" in recruiting there really just reflects too narrow a scope for role/location or unwarranted self-aggrandizement.

I_lie_on_reddit_alot

I don’t think you understand… when normally 25% go into MBB, 40% go into big tech as PMs, 25% into VC/IB, and 10% are funded founders and now those numbers are each down by 5% and 25% of the class has to take a lower paying job or wait - it isn’t a good indicator. Going to a top 3 business school and graduating should land you in to a high paying career. If more than ~3% aren’t, it’s because tech, consulting, and IB firms aren’t doing hot. Yes they can find a job, but it’s bad if they can’t find those jobs.

Chadsback42069

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AlpsSad1364

The Trump Dump The Donald Dive The Make America Great Recession  He will be delighted have all these names in his offical presidential history. Soon he's going to remember why he liked stocks going up in his first term: The wealth effect from this crash is going to be worse than the tariffs themselves and enough to cause a recession on its own. The tech and VC bros must be tearing their hair out. Backed the wrong horse fellas? A guy who lives near me killed himself on thursday (I live in the middle of nowhere so this is notable). I didn't know him but I know he spent most of his life gaming and in front of a computer. l sincerely hope it wasn't because he was gambling options.

aerialviews007

Well the $33M is just air. Just because he says a VC company is worth that doesn’t make it true. Reading the statement, then the liens are still in place and not paid off.

Yellow_Otherwise

You are talking about research, EU is good at it. In 1949 Transistron (French version of Transistor) was discovered, but no one in EU wanted to use it, instead they used tubes. Lots of tech got discovered in EU but led to no where because people are risk averse, fragmented market, lack of VC funding and feeling of European superiority. French AI industry in US (people who went to US and started companies) are valued at 6.5B, in France it is 0.5B. Every god damn time EU claims it is turning point, that they will fix it and so on, but they push another fucking legislation in to people's throats. It is a god damn fucking joke, I cannot fucking retire until I am over 70. Not sure retirement system will not collapse in next 10 years. I cannot pull that fucking money

HungryColquhoun

I've heard this is happening already. I was in a meeting last week with someone who runs a San Diego VC (they also like to Chair life sciences companies, and I'm a board observer for a large organisation with a controlling stake) and in essence they're worried about putting money into things because they can't be sure when the current administration is going to take a shit and where. Not good for innovation when the whole VC ecosystem becomes risk-off (because they can't trust USA's leadership).