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XLY.TO Can Ticker CBWTF US Ticker. Has been getting shorted long enough. Power to the People!
d1 capital partners - next MM to blow up
$EXPE - the next HF parking lot to go bust
$EXPE - the next HF parking lot to go bust
Auxly (CBWTF) is being manipulated/undervalued. Current market cap is less than 1x projected 2022 sales!
Is this a good market environment to close LEAPS and reduce leverage
Happy Holidays! Have some tendies XLY-Consumer Discretionary Select Sector SPDR Fund
Auxly (XLY). The Next Philip Morris. Share it. Spread it. Let’s get rich.
Auxly (XLY). The Next Philip Morris. Share it. Spread it. Let’s get rich.
Auxly (XLY). The Next Philip Morris. Share it. Spread it.
Auxly (XLY). The Next Philip Morris. Share it. Spread it.
Playing earnings over Black Friday/holiday season
Growth Investors: Industry Analysts Just Upgraded Their Auxly Cannabis Group Inc. (TSE:XLY) Revenue Forecasts By 8.2%
Why is my ticker down? Add these sectors ETF’s to your watchlist to understand the big picture
Auxly Cannabis Group Inc. (TSX- XLY) (OTCQX: CBWTF)
EBAY has a fundamental profile that should not be overlooked
XLY and VFF entering top 5 by market share
GME, but the $TSLA version. DDD (Deep DD). I did the homework so you didn't have to.
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Guys guys we did. XLY is green. Lol f me can’t help but laugh. Not selling anyways doesn’t matter. Steps forwards
What do you mean capacity? Do you think they'll want to expand to the US with XLY? Why did I think it was a US company... what tobacco brand are they? Are they big in the US?
Imperial brands and they are from the UK but they haven’t had the capacity to expand internationally with XLY
Xly has no skin in the game - they have no connection to USA cannabis - all other big names WEED, TILRAY, OGI, CHRON, VFF actually have potential to increase international presence. XLY is to local.
XLY just never moves tho lol
I bought more Tilly and MSOS 200k CAD each let’s go here. XLY wake the f up
EVERYTHING IS THE PLAY except XLY...
Ya I am waiting for XLY to move. New price target was 25cents CAD.
But this is S3 news, XLY doesn’t have presence over there. I guess you can also bet ACB and OGI will go red first, whichever has less exposure in the US
If I had to guess, XLY will be the first ticker to go red and signal the funs over
I mainly trade technology stocks and other aggressive stocks that are usually added to the following ETFs sectors like: XLK, XLF, XLC, XLY, and XLI. In fy23 I increased my portfolio to 161%, in fy24 it was 96% and this year fy25 it was up 114%. My portfolio has definitely increased significantly over the years. However, the market looks like it wants to come down, and it feels like it’s a house of cards, so I got out and sold all my stocks around November 11. And I’m just going to wait until breadth, sentiment, volume and momentum is back in the market before I start trading again. Happy trading everyone!
Two things can be true: - Black Friday sales are at a record - Retail sales growth is moribund, based on +3% y/y Black Friday sales. Sales are **supposed** to be at a record. Not only is CPI inflation generally positive (3% this year), but population growth means we should be exceeding this at minimum to show real growth at. Here are data for the last five years for consumer facing sector ETFs (XRT, XLY, and XLP) vs. the broader index (SPY) and tech stocks (XLK and XLC), which have actually driven returns. | Total Returns | Name | 2025 YTD | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 | |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| | XRT | SPDR S&P Retail ETF | 6.66% | 11.78% | 21.54% | -31.64% | 42.63% | | XLY | Consumer Discretionary Select Sector SPDR Fund | 6.09% | 26.51% | 39.64% | -36.27% | 27.93% | | XLP | Consumer Staples Select Sector SPDR Fund | 2.90% | 12.19% | -0.83% | -0.83% | 17.20% | | XLK | Technology Select Sector SPDR Fund | 23.67% | 21.63% | 56.02% | -27.73% | 34.74% | | XLC | Communication Services SPDR Fund | 20.25% | 34.70% | 52.81% | -37.63% | 15.96% | | SPY | SPDR S&P 500 ETF | 17.62% | 24.89% | 26.19% | -18.17% | 30.52% | I'm not sure what investor used to historical 11% returns from the S&P 500 and recent >20% returns can see US tech stocks absolutely ripping >20% again this year, developed international markets return ~30%, and emerging markets >30% can get excited about seeing low-single digit returns from consumer-facing stocks and say "hell yes, sign me up for this shit". And unlike health care, which was beaten down recently but recovered, this is entirely driven by fundamentals, not sentiment.
If any of you haven't take a look at XLY. Winning In Canada and poised for true organic growth going forward. Soon to start exporting with some help from Imperial Brands.
I think people forget that it’s only at 18 cents. I know a lot of shares. But big opportunity to make money as XLY continues to put up big numbers
XLY is one of my favorites, Har Har, not! Over a billion outstanding shares, what?
XLY XLY XLY XLY. I have triple the amount in msos but fck me nice to see something good today
Lol look at the earnings my guy. Trust me I have been here for 10yrs lost tons of money but XLY is making a come back
Just buy XLY - Earnings Thursday!!
Thinking XLY is about to have a strong earnings as well
lol yeah wtf is this misinformation getting upvoted. Look at XLY or for 10 years. It’s simply not true it’s at 10 year lows.
I wanted to invest in these consumer discretionary stocks that are at 10-year lows so I asked my girlfriend and she said this "I couldn’t locate a reliable list of consumer discretionary or non-discretionary stocks that are definitively at a 10-year low (as the Reddit comment claims). Here’s what I did find, and what the gaps are: --- ✅ What we do know The XLY ETF (which tracks the U.S. consumer discretionary sector) has recent under-performance and many components are hitting one-year lows. Several articles highlight that significant parts of the consumer discretionary sector are under pressure — due to weak spending, inflation, and economic headwinds. The Reddit comment suggests a “long slow crash” out of consumer stocks into tech — which aligns qualitatively with trends (investors favoring tech/growth vs. cyclicals). --- ⚠️ What we don’t have A credible source showing many consumer discretionary stocks are at 10-year lows (not just 1- or 2-year lows). Specific names of stocks with that 10-year-low status in the discretionary or non-discretionary consumer sectors that the commenter may have been referring to. Confirmation of which “non-discretionary consumer stocks” (i.e., staples) are also at decade-lows. --- 🔍 My interpretation It’s likely the commenter exaggerated or used informal language (“10-year low”) to express that many consumer stocks have been in decline or under-performing for a long period. What seems true: Discretionary stocks (luxury goods, leisure, non-essentials) are under pressure. Some consumer staples or non-discretionaries may also be weak or trading at depressed valuations. The shift of investment money toward technology (AI, cloud, semiconductors) is real. What is not clearly true: That the sector broadly is at literal 10-year price lows. That every stock in that group is weak — there are always exceptions"
Be interesting to see if XLY can beat 28m net
Is XLY's earnings report release date confirmed?
Big week let’s be green! XLY Friday
XLY train will run soon after the earnings Nov 7th. But I’m MSOS hard if trump can say something for the boys
I’m all MSOs but put a bid in for the XLY train VFF is also on the radar but I think there’s more upside to XLY Both have very good and competitive SKUs
The XLY takeover is imminent
ChatGPT response when asked if Auxly is a good investment. Not financial advice. Here’s a breakdown of whether investing in Auxly Cannabis Group Inc. (ticker TSX: XLY) might make sense — along with the risks. Note: this isn’t personal financial advice, just my analysis. ⸻ ✅ What looks good 1. Revenue & margin improvement • In 2024, Auxly reported net revenues of C$122.3 million, up 21% over 2023.  • The gross margin on finished cannabis inventory sold improved to ~46% in 2024 (versus ~34% in 2023).  • Q2 2025 results: revenue up 33% YoY, adjusted EBITDA margin ~30%.  2. Debt reduction / balance sheet improvement • They’ve converted significant debt into equity (via their partner/creditor) and reduced debt burdens.  • Their EV/EBITDA appears modest (for what one might expect in a turnaround) in some data.  3. Market positioning • Auxly is described as a consumer packaged-goods oriented cannabis company in Canada (flowers, pre-rolls, vapes) with brands.  • If they can maintain / grow market share and margins, the business model looks more “normalised” than many early speculative cannabis plays. ⸻ ⚠️ What raises caution 1. Still margin of risk & uncertainty • Despite the improvements, the company was reporting net losses. For example, in 2024 net loss ~C$16.35 m for the year.  • Some analysis note liabilities outstrip near-term assets (or at least tight liquidity). For example: “its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by CA$112.0m” in one assessment.  • One commentary says that although recent improvement is good, “rate of growth … is weaker” compared to industry and the valuation (P/S ratio) is high versus peers.  2. Valuation / expectations risk • SimplyWallSt flagged that Auxly’s price-to-sales (P/S) ratio, compared to industry peers, is elevated given modest growth.  • Some technical indicators suggest mixed signals (i.e., not strong “go-buy now” momentum).  3. Sector risk • The cannabis industry remains volatile, with regulatory risks, pricing pressure (especially in Canada), competition (illicit market), etc. For any cannabis-related stock, those macro / regulatory risks remain meaningful. • Earlier reports flagged going concern risk for Auxly (a few years ago) though things appear improved. 
Check out Auxly (XLY). That’s my current bet on cannabis stocks
XLY will have its time
Alcohol is a boomers vice. Us youngins prefer mother natures medicine (MNMD, CRON, XLY, MSOS)
In no particular order, here are my thoughts on the Canadian side… SNDL - probably the most torqued and misunderstood. Look out for news out of their Sunstream portfolio in the near to midterm. A lot of ill will built up from burnt longterm shareholders but not a bad place for newcomers. HITI - not an LP but very much integral to the Canadian cannabis story. There’s been a stream of positive analyst coverage over the past few weeks and I anticipate this will continue as the company executes on its long term initiatives. ACB - I don’t hold an investment, but do admire the CEO’s turn around of the business. Lots of negativity out there again, but the shares will probably continue to cycle into stronger hands. XLY - making the right moves now. Their ongoing relationship with Imperial remains intriguing. The executive compensation is a major pain point for me and I don’t think the near term performance excuses it, but again, not a bad place to look as a new investor free of all the historical baggage. DB - very much like Auxly in terms of how I feel about it. But also like them, they sell too products and I think that’s worth something, now that they’re mostly right sizing the rest of the business. Wouldn’t go in with a large position though. VFF - it’s probably the obvious play and now that it has restructured its veggie business, we should hopefully continue to see improvements. Management compensation is again outrageous if you ask me but hey - what do I know about what these guys “should” get paid. Shareholders seem to keep voting the comp plans in droves…
In no particular order, here are my thoughts on the Canadian side… SNDL - probably the most torqued and misunderstood. Look out for news out of their Sunstream portfolio in the near to midterm. A lot of ill will built up from burnt longterm shareholders but not a bad place for newcomers. HITI - not an LP but very much integral to the Canadian cannabis story. There’s been a stream of positive analyst coverage over the past few weeks and I anticipate this will continue as the company executes on its long term initiatives. ACB - I don’t hold an investment, but do admire the CEO’s turn around of the business. Lots of negativity out there again, but the shares will probably continue to cycle into stronger hands. XLY - making the right moves now. Their ongoing relationship with Imperial remains intriguing. The executive compensation is a major pain point for me and I don’t think the near term performance excuses it, but again, not a bad place to look as a new investor free of all the historical baggage. DB - very much like Auxly in terms of how I feel about it. But also like them, they sell too products and I think that’s worth something, now that they’re mostly right sizing the rest of the business. Wouldn’t go in with a large position though. VFF - it’s probably the obvious play and now that it has restructured its veggie business, we should hopefully continue to see improvements. Management compensation is again outrageous if you ask me but hey - what do I know about what these guys “should” get paid. Shareholders seem to keep voting the comp plans in droves…
XLY seems a very good leveraged ETF to profit from rate cuts.
Guys. Buy XLY it’s going to explode mark my words. Been here since 2016 and they are going to make a huge comeback. Also Tilbae is my biggest holding.
Auxly Cannibus $CBWTF.OTC & XLY.TSE released their financial report this morning and it's looking pretty good.
XLY earnings this morning get in before she explodes!!!!
You are overthinking it a lot. Nowdays stocks trading is just about "vibes". If you want a more "tangible" reason here it is: I bought it around 74 where it showed strong support. So it went up all the way to 94 and I sold around 90 but I kept monitoring it because I have faith in this and decided to pull the trigger today because yesterday it fell more than the broader market (XLY). Of course this is a bet and if I lose I can be the CAVAGARD of the year.
XLY(Auxly) is a good Canadian cannabis one to keep an eye for next week. Earnings report on the 14th and expectations are good. Holds top sales in several categories. Stock has been steadily rising all year. Trades on OTC under CBWTF for all my American friends out there. Q1 2025: Reported EPS of CAD 0.01 and revenue of CAD 32.67 million. That revenue reflected a ~29.4% year-over-year growth . Trailing 12 months (TTM): Revenue totaled CAD 129.76 million (up ~26.8% YoY), with net income of ~CAD 21.78 million and EPS of CAD 0.02 . Margins look solid: gross margin ~53%, operating margin ~17.9%, and net profit margin ~16.8% .
I actually really like VFF and CRON I'm down bad on VFF (I forgot about them) but I think they are making a really good decision divesting the produce business. Their operations are just quite complicated right now so I was going to wait for an earnings or two to sort out how their new produce agreement looks. CRON is really boring, and I love it. Just sitting on a huge chunk of cash waiting for everything to sort itself out, then make their moves. Their investment on HITI is interesting, and they are popular enough to pump big of the US legalizes. I also love how they've grown the spinach brand and captured so much market share without acquisitions. OGI has kinda disappointed me. They just seem to be consistently mediocre regardless of the moves they make. I sold them when Beena left and lost quite a bit on them. They have a lot of potential, but they've never really convinced me that they can do anything with that potential. Decibel I feel the same way, they've just been mediocre. Came out and posted some profits, then fell apart and have just lingered around since. As for what stock to buy? After the recent price bumps for LOVE and XLY I kinda expect them to sit around for a bit, but they both look awesome long term. VFF and CRON I think have more short term upside but they still have a lot to prove. If VFF starts posting positive net income I think they will have huge upside.
Thanks appreciate the color. What do you think of XLY/LOVE versus VFF/CRON? They both have higher EVs so I feel like it’s a hard jump to make. Kinda same with OGI but the mgmt uncertainty prob holds it back till there is an announcement. Decibel I think is bad. They came out really strong a couple years ago and just haven’t had momentum since. Feels like instead of fixing their biz they just bought a bankrupt international supplier right when it feels like international is getting tough
I just sold MTLC last week before they announced they redid their debt. They have the most efficient operations of any company I've seen in the sector, but their balance sheet is absolutely atrocious. Now that their debt is redone they doubled in value, and they are a bit too pricey for me to comfortably jump back in, so I jumped ship too early. ROMJ is a company that I really like. They've been on the verge of profitability for like 2 years now and just been unable to break even. They started selling vapes recently and that really helped their sales, and they just bought a production facility off medipharm labs. They still haven't shown any consistent profits but their balance sheet is decent, their operations are good, they were limited by capacity. I am a bit hesitant on them because the new facility will likely be expensive and that could cause them financial problems, but it was necessary for them long term. If there was more M&A in the sector they'd be a top tier buyout target for any company looking to take over the premium cannabis and topical niches. If they make those improvements to start posting profits I think they'll see similar price action I've also been watching OILS (Nextleaf Solutions) and DB (Decibel Cannabis) but haven't jumped in yet. I got burned on Decibel a few years ago and their balance sheet needs a hazmat suit. Oils turned a decent profit but they are a tiny operation, and they'd either need to get acquired, or expand and they aren't quite in a good spot for either. You are right about XLY being a big company now. They have a lot of assets and they are doing very well in sales. But for years Canadian LPs were essentially only (TLRY, CRON, ACB, CGC) and SNDL sometimes. So they had the most visibility and no one would touch the penny stock companies. It makes sense, these companies were household names at legalization and they've slowly burned that goodwill over the years since
Canopy isn’t a large company anymore. I think they shut down almost all of their production. They just suck haha. ACB same thing. Not much production. TLRY yes. They are massive and overbuilt. XLY is not small at all. They are run well just had to dilute pretty badly. And I think most ppl don’t realize fully diluted share count and that the imperial warrants are prepaid. I missed the boat on LOVE but it seems pretty expensive now. Just started looking about ROMJ. seems super cheap anything I should know? Idk much about MTLC. What’s your top pick?
I've only been invested in the smaller producers (LOVE, ROMJ, MTLC, XLY) for the past few years. My thesis was that the big companies are overbuilt and can't be efficient enough to compete in a small market. We are still seeing that now. The question is whether they can find other markets large enough to support them while they cut down to a sustainable size.
Those aren’t the big Canadian LPs anymore. ACB barely in rec in Canada. they are basically a international medical company that will do well short term but will be tougher long term because they’ll have to fight with tighter margins like Canada. CGC is dead and a dumpster fire. TLRY is Frankenstein dilution monster. Look at CRON, VFF, OGI. Along with XLY and LOVE (I think both are good but too expensive), those are your big Canadian LPs now. ACB isn’t a bad company, just hard to compare them to others. They need new international markets to keep going but mgmt has done a good job with what they were handed.
Starting to worry about oversupply again. TLRY, CRON, XLY, LOVE have all increased capacity too. I think just TLRY and CRON alone was over 100K KG and I dont think it's hit the market yet. Cant find the XLY number but i know they had a big facility they weren't fully using and said they were going to start using more and more. LOVE was 10,500 KG more per earnings last week (they seem to be a different price tier than the others, but still) and they also have a huge unused facility like XLY. That's a lot of extra product...And i'd bet the smaller ones are ramping too. If Germany doesnt keep growing faster gonna look like 2020 again. That being said i do think VFF has a cost structure that they'll be hurt less, but still would affect the margins.
All these pages can be summed up in a couple sentences lol. Buy and hold diversified ETFs (SPY, QQQ, etc) or at least multiple sector-based ETFs (S&P SPDRs like XLC, XLY, XLE, etc etc). Then, don't sell. Keep buying and DCA (dollar cost averaging) into them over the years.
im so glad i got XLY calls for my tesla anticipation the loss won’t hurt as much
can someone explain why XLY is so down amazon and tesla are so high up
try asking microsoft copilot for best bets like XLY etc… this clown show has to have a remedy... right?
SPy id the messenger of them all....XLY XLV are some areas gaining highly today...
If 1 USD = 1 CAD, and XLY.TO stays at $0.13 CAD then CBWTF should also be around $0.13 USD.
TSLA single-handedly preventing XLY from ripping… options are pretty cheap
Rate cut inevitable. 25 delta calls on XLY, KRE, and DHI it is. Bout 2 months out.
My XLY puts should finally print. Thank you 🙏🍊🤡
Actually, XLY is one of my larger holdings. They area most defiantly not looked at. Problem is the sentiment of the cannabis sector as a whole is awful in the US. Hold on to these or move on and attempt a comeback. That is what is weighing my thoughts lately.
What's weird is why people even look to bloated pigs like Canopy and Tilray to measure sector sentiment. There's good performing mid cap LPs (VFF, OGI) and fantastic small caps (XLY, LOVE, DB) that deserve far more visibility.
if you trade spys and q's and have tradingview these should be mandatory S5T(W,I,H), VIX, SKEW, XLP/XLY, SPY/VIX, QQQ/DIA, SPY/TLT
Lots to love about this ER, but bottom line is that's now 4 straight profitable quarters (net income) at an unbeatable gross margin, and XLY projecting at least a $0.04 annual EPS, putting their forward P/E multiple at just 2.25.
Yeah: XLY, SMH, SBUX, NFLX, WMT, and calls on UDN (short USD). Probably should short TLT but I don’t have any more gambling money. Dates are about 2-3 months out on most of these. 10-15% OTM
The December 260 has only 5 open interest and no volume on Friday; the Bid/Ask is 0x4.80, the September 240 has 0x1.30 so you're gonna have some liquidity troubles, it might be hard to get filled at the last price. I would lean toward the longer dated one because its delta is less sensitive to IV and time than the shorter dated one. (It's also higher delta right now, 13 vs 7). VIX is still somewhat high, and the biggest risk of these options is IV decreasing or time decay killing delta before XLY makes a move in your favor. Always better to have more time IMO.
So XLY probably is the most dependent on trade talks going well. If I wanted to pick options for a small pop on the news which would you take? I am playing with a small account. XLY high for the year was around $240. And pricing on longer data calls isn't that clear since I am looking after hours. I don't know long it will take for anything to be settled but can't imagine either side can let it go on forever. 240C 9/19 last says 1.32 260C 12/19 last says 1.22 I could always do a debit spread close to the current stock price. For those more experienced, which one would you take? Obviously, I don't plan to hold to expiration. Thanks for the help! I posted this elsewhere and I know this sub is a blackhole of idiocy, but maybe someone will through
So XLY probably is the most dependent on trade talks going well. If I wanted to pick options for a small pop on the news which would you take? I am playing with a small account. XLY high for the year was around $240. And pricing on longer data calls isn't that clear since I am looking after hours. I don't know long it will take for anything to be settled but can't imagine either side can let it go on forever. 240C 9/19 last says 1.32 260C 12/19 last says 1.22 I could always do a debit spread close to the current stock price. For those more experienced, which one would you take? Obviously, I don't plan to hold to expiration. Thanks for the help!
Yeah, all in XLY puts 😎
what is CBW/XLY? Charllots Web and Auxly?
You can avoid the iv crush by going with XLY tsla is 14% of that
been with CBW/XLY since the beginning. They dont care about the states at all currently. Will be interesting to see if they can actually make a turn around.
Still holding? I’m bagholding 150P on XLY 5/16
I put in a few puts against people who deal entirely in cheap foreign labor like ross stores, tj max, levi, nike, gap. Any other suggestions? shorted XLY consumer discretionary because the put prices were too high
I put in a few puts against people who deal entirely in cheap foreign labor like ross stores, tj max, levi, nike, gap. shorted XLY consumer discretionary because the put prices were too high
That said… I’m not above XLY puts, and that’s basically a proxy for TSLA at this point🤷♂️
2 week bear call credit spreads on XLY are my play deep ITM
Well… if that’s true, then my XLY puts should more than cover them. Wish I had taken a bit less profit on them today though
XLY 185p and some VIX 25p to hedge them with. So mad I sold all my SPY puts around 541
I joke about it all the time, but if XLY actually holds up through AH I will full port puts
Yup. The good thing is, if they're ETFs and long-term enough, they will print for a while as specific industries start to struggle. Even as Trump walks some tariffs back, the broad enough reach of some funds \[SPY, XLY\] will keep them making money for at least the next 6 months \[is my personal opinion\].
Whoever I just accidentally sold my June 20 XLY puts to at 4.75 when I meant to buy more… you’re welcome you lucky fuck. Just cost me ~$250, I got back in though
Google is starting to look good, but I still want to wait on that. Honestly Im done betting against any individual stock, but I’m loaded on SPY and XLY puts
Yep. I actually doubled down on Tesla between Monday and Tuesday. Sold off Friday and switched into XLY. Nearly back at ATH again and the trend is heading down. Big funds will be buying their monthly hedge puts Monday so I’ll probably take some more profit while the VIX spikes
I bought more puts Monday and Tuesday, sold all my individual stock puts yesterday and shifted into longer term puts against indices like XLY
Yes, I will be ok… Im not really trying to time it that closely. My options have plenty of time. I doubled down on TSLA and PLTR puts this week then cleared them yesterday because the options for those are too expensive. I’m still short on SPY (bought and sold 570p this week) still holding my original spy puts, and shifted into puts on XLY as a less volatile proxy for Tesla. But yes, you’re correct, I still have plenty of time to keep buying. That’s why I felt comfortable buying puts… I can make it back if I’m wrong, I don’t think I am though. I’ll be out of puts when I see at least 15% off of ATH but I’ll be swing trading overbought and oversold moments in the meantime. I don’t want to be in options personally, but when you research and see an opportunity, and you can afford to be wrong, why not take it?
Buy our down and out weed stock XLY or CBWTF in the US. One of the only profitable weed companies trading at 0.5X revenue right now. And based in canada, win win lol
I think I might switch it up and get puts on XLY if it’s green today… US consumer discretionary spending is mostly done by people with the most exposure to the market, if the market is down… they’ll spend less.
Great write-up! Using ratio charts like SPY/GLD and SPY/TLT to gauge market sentiment is a solid strategy. The XLY/XLP ratio is also a valuable indicator for consumer behavior shifts. Thanks for sharing these insights!
How does XLY pump on consumer sentiment crashing?
Spending is not increasing, people have hit their limits and starting to save. But that's very hard to do when maxed out at 25% interest. Especially if you lost your job. Auto loans are defaulting. Along with housing, consumer credit contraction has begun in earnest. At the same time, govt halting payments and mass firing workers. It's disinflationary if not outright deflationary. On the other hand, you have tariffs, which is price inflation, but there's no debt inflation to go with it, so that's stagflationary, I guess? The limited money people do have is mostly beaing eaten by essentials, so consumer discretionary is in trouble. I've got april put on XLY.
If you want to avoid the high premiums on TSLA options, XLY is 12% TSLA.
I like XLP/XLY but yeah. SPY/DIA OR QQQ/DIA represents the same essentially
" Would a strategy like consistently buying weekly options on the VIX or SQQQ make sense?" This seems like it would add to your overall risk rather than be a hedge(and not a direct hedge at that). Go slow and learn the basics of options trading rather than jumping directly into an advanced strategy. You need a hedge that will not add signifigant risk or you increase your odds of getting fucked on both ends. Directional plays of major companies that are directly related to your field could be worth looking into as well as XLY/the major stocks that make up that ETF. How do your sales patterns match up with what you see in the movement of XLY?
In the dank, dark world of Canadian LPs, people are still sleeping on Auxly. With the recent runup to $0.08, XLY's market cap is now $111M, just above VFF and at par with Cannara (which is also rising from the dead)
Which puts do you think will perform best? XLI or XLY (consumer discretionary or industrials)? Or is there a single company? D.R. Horton etc. are already way down. I don't think financials are at the same risk as 2008. But I see casino stocks totally underperform in recessions? Ideas?
> So just to be clear, you are saying a correction is coming soon, but not this week? Because you had said to buy heavy on a Monday dip. Yes. I believe the window for a proper correction begins in mid-April. This is a drawdown. We hit *very* specific levels and reversed. > I’m a simple gal but to me this makes sense. Retail and the general public are seeing an almost terroristic administration doing corruption in broad daylight and featuring a ketamine addict randomly firing thousands of workers every day. Public confidence collapsing seems to be the predictable result. You're equating dislike of Trump to a bottom of a worldwide recession and a worldwide pandemic. Don't let your political biases cloud your judgment. Besides SMH, XLK and XLY, most SPDR sector ETFs are up or flat. Even XLC's down move is deceptive due to its overweighing of Mag 7 stocks. Depressed retail sentiment is additional evidence against this dip continuing. We get real corrections at the point where euphoria rules and price movement moves in a parabolic fashion (e.g. April, July). SPX's recent ATH came with very little enthusiasm and was a slog to reach. > Except when they’re not, and really, the move of a week or two can be undone just as quickly if not faster. Which is almost never the case. The fortune of the financial sector reflects the global liquidity cycle and money velocity. In the same vein as the Cantillon effect, they experience the least lag time when the economy goes south. > I’m struggling with how to word this... I agree with you that dumb money absolutely overreacts. But over the years I’ve come around to realizing it’s sometimes best not to fight dumb money. Even if they’re doing something dumb like buying or selling something they shouldn’t, why not just participate but being more cognizant to take gains before they figure things out? 85% of all market liquidity is institutional. Out of the remaining 15%, 90% of retail inflow/outflow is controlled by 10% of the demographic. Retail doesn't move the market. As I mentioned, ST5W is telling us this retreat is not broad-based. Institutions front run downturns while selling off to retail with reassurances everything's alright. Just like the dot-com bubble, GFC, the mid-2010s, and COVID. Dark pool transaction volume exploded on Friday afternoon, telling us big money is buying back in; inversely, we saw a ton of selling at the top the week before. > Again, simple gal thinking here there’s sense to it. Flight from wacky tech to safety, plus a perception that a crumbling economy will spur rate moves favorable to financials. Some numbers showing re-sale real estate is moving, mortgages are starting to happen again. These perceptions, true or not, would let someone justify XLF, right? XLF is going up, XHB is still in a protracted downturn, XLRE has been crawling up since January. They want the ideal "golden ratio" when high rates intersect with debtor demand, where the latter doesn't dampen the former. Lower rates don't spur more borrowing if people believe the economy is in the gutter. > So essential a broadening then, which could be seen as healthy? That's the ultimate bearish sign. A broadening only means the total distribution shifts as money flows to other securities in different sectors. Everything should still go up to ATHs in a bull market at different rates. > Admit I don’t watch it that closely. I’m guessing a bounce? If so that would make simple sense to me as I perceived a big selloff had happened even though the current administration’s promise/threat of a “strategic reserve” is still on the table. Frankly down so much I had been thinking of upping my small crypt hedge just on the basis of it being possibly oversold. Up 12% off the announcement. > Main question is are you still advocating heavy buying mid-Monday? Yes. I expect a pullback at Monday's start. Institutions will unravel their short positions and deleverage the shares they bought to cover.