ASTS

Paul_Robert_

My $60 ASTS calls are so cooked 😭

SalemKinkTrials

This is why I only invest in safe zero revenue companies like ASTS take notes nerds. Took one business class in college really not a big deal.

Iunatic

Yea I did miss NVDA but got PLTR and ASTS so it wasn't so bad.

VillageDull952

ASTS subreddit is pretty active too with tolerable mods. But I digress

BagHoldersOfAmerica

I commented on a post where they were saying ASTS would get awarded contracts for golden dome that it's probably not and got massively downvoted and attacked lmao "CLEARLY YOU HAVEN'T DONE YOUR DD" "$500 STOCK"

JohnKeyDonkey

ASTS were meant to ship BB7 by end of November. Lol another missed timeline. This company is so useless. I would not be surprised if management get sued for securities fraud.

Paul_Robert_

!banbet ASTS 60 9d My $60 calls are cooked if this doesn't happen, so I'm with ya

Iunatic

ASTS IV is really elevated right now. I would probably stick to shares. Have you seen the LEAP pricing? They barely give 1.2x leverage lol

Iunatic

Need ASTS to go back up so I can buy another Lange

Iunatic

This is the hardest, especially when it's a stock that is down 50% from ATH like ASTS, but is still double your former exit price lol.

toonguy84

I can't speak for ASTS because that whole company is based on hope. I only speak about RKLB. Net income doesn't matter to young companies. They are in the building phase. Reasons why it deserves a 20B+ valuation: - Space will absolutely be part of our future. Utility companies (internet and phone) are moving to space, defense will continue to expand to space (SpaceForce is extremely young. Other countries will need to compete), Research companies are putting different types of satellites up, etc. - Putting things into space is hard and expensive. There are a few companies doing it but there really aren't many. - RKLB isn't some sort of pie in the sky idea. They have a rocket (Electron) their launch success rate is extremely high. They are putting things into space. - 60% of RKLB revenue comes from space systems, not rocket launches. That means RKLB builds a lot of stuff that goes into space. Blue Origin recently put a spacecraft into space headed for Mars. Rocketlab built that space craft. (Just one example). - RKLB is supposed to be brining a bigger rocket online next year. It's called Neutron. Will it work? I'm not sure but the amount of success they had with Electron means it is looking pretty promising to me. - RKLB revenue growth is very high. Look at the "Revenue Growth (YoY)" line here: https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/rklb/financials/ It's very hard to call a stock expensive when it has that much growth. These are a few reasons why I don't think RKLB is an expensive stock or a meme stock.

ImpossibleOrb

ASTS has the highest probability of generating life changing gains in not 10 but even 5 years. The company is currently priced cheap compared to value of existing assets and 10x from here is quite easy to plot out.

captainstrange94

Can anyone holding ASTS/RKLB share some insight on what justifies their current valuation and how its expected to continuosly grow? Both have 20B+ valuation and negative net income. Meanwhile, RDDT is currently printing money with 90%+ margins and both revenue/net income growing by 60-70% annually and minimum capex expenditure. Not trying to criticize, I'm genuinely curious to understanding the fundamentals, maybe I am missing something.

Get_rch_or_try_dyin

Please tell me about some penny stocks that have a guaranteed success rate and are a “sure bet” … The reason penny stocks are cheap is because you’re betting on a company that hasn’t fully proved itself yet. What are a few of your picks ? I got in ASTS and RKLB at $4. ONDS at 70cents , HIT at 60cents , IMRX at $1.10 , bought BYND at 62cents and sold at $4.5 , OUST at $7 , DPRO at $2.50 . I do hours of research every day to find small cap stocks . Every stock has risk . The goal is to find the ones with “less risk” , and follow them closely.

KRock1287

ASTS it is

nuclearsandwitches

ASTS is looking like a 10 bagger in 5 years

OREG_Keith

SHOP & ASTS!! I doubled down on SHOP a little over 6 months ago on a long hold and doubled my position again since then. It’s up almost 60% for me in that time period. I expect it to double in the next 2 years and 3x to 5x in the next 5 years. ASTS I bought at $25 PS and sold half of my position at $100. I’ve been consistently adding again since it hit $50 and holding long now. This one I see 5x’s easily. They haven’t even started to make significant $$$’s yet but it’s coming!

SylvesterStapwn

> If it was, then why are their antenna/routers so expensive? Are you talking about for Starlink's internet service? The reason their antenna/routers are so expensive is because they have barely any competition in remote area's that have no fiber/cable internet solutions. Starlink's internet business is completely independent from any sort of cellular service. They are completely different businesses. Similar to how the big players for cellular are completely independent of the big players for internet (though i guess the ccellular players are now starting to break in). >What do you mean by this? Are you thinking of ASTS solely as a secondary/backup connection? Correct, terrestrial towers will still exist AND be more reliable. ASTS will probably provide the entirety of service for some IoT products, but from a cellular service provider standpoint, they are their to strengthen networks, not replace the existing networks. Cell companies still own their base stations, and companies like American Tower still build out terrestrial infrastructure... though we could see that scale back in the future. >If that's claimed somewhere, it's not legitimate and is calculated by mixing other costs with marketing. Possibly. I pulled this number off the top of my head because I read it in a forbes article years ago... and I think ASTS may have had a similar number in their initial pitch deck.

hollow_bridge

> because that’s what Starlink wants to become I don't believe this is actually what starlink wants. If it was, then why are their antenna/routers so expensive? Sat-data is always going to be a premium product because of how ludicrously more expensive it is than ground-data, and it will always need to be priced so. > The reality is ASTS empowers legacy providers and nations to have worldwide coverage, without the threat of stealing their customers. What do you mean by this? Are you thinking of ASTS solely as a secondary/backup connection? > Customer acquisitions cost like $500 per customer in the cellular market If that's claimed somewher, it's not legitimate and is calculated by mixing other costs with marketing. I can price out the benefits and advertising costs of the various cellular options, and there's no way it's anywhere near $500, I would guess more like $20-$150 depending on the type of customer. A quick google shows me $64-121 for ATT.

SylvesterStapwn

The better question is will those people switch to starlink as their cellular provider, because that’s what Starlink wants to become. The reality is ASTS empowers legacy providers and nations to have worldwide coverage, without the threat of stealing their customers. Meanwhile the goal of starlink for d2d is to become their own service provider. They will not just have massive capex on satellites, but on customer acquisition as well. Customer acquisitions cost like $500 per customer in the cellular market. There is a reason why providers with billions of subscribers as well as their sovereign countries are aligning with asts over starlink.

SylvesterStapwn

They are not competitors. Starlink wants to be its own MNO. Its satellite constellation acts as a massive base station, processing all data on their satellites. Why do you think ASTS has MOU’s and contracts with MNOs covering over 3 billion subscribers and Starlink has contracts covering like 400 million? It’s because ASTS doesn’t have aspirations to be a cellular service provider like Starlink. Their bent pipe architecture allows them to simply be a middle man that enables legacy providers to have the equivalent coverage to Starlink, without having to risk their data and customers information being disclosed to ASTS. This means that countries are ok with using ASTS, and this means cellular service providers who aren’t idiots with a death wish like T-Mobile are much more incentivized to use asts.

Condition-Alarmed

ASTS al the way

PokemonAnimar

The only 3 stocks that make up about 90% of my portfolio are rocketlab, ASTS, and ONDS. The reason for it is that I think they are well on their way to becoming very large companies, and thus there's a possibility of a much greater return compared to investing in the boring companies that have dependable and forecastable gains. I do feel like I got really lucky because I started investing in all 3 when they were a fraction of the price they are now, but I do believe in them (especially asts and rklb) and think that there is way more growth ahead

Jsalz

Same brother. I’m thankful everyday for finding ASTS through a Reddit thread and researching it on my own.

gellatintastegood

Dont worry bro i had ASTS at 4 dollars and it dipped at 2.5 dollars and a year later when it got back up to 4 dollars.. I said I am out and sold. LOL

terenceill

Not sure how people think ASTS will ever be profitable. 95% of the world already has mobile phone coverage and the remaining 5% is so poor that customers won't be able to afford such coverage.

superbilliam

Moon Shots? Full tilt? JOBY and ASTS.

OTMallthetime

I am up 70 k on my investment account and I have no idea what I am doing 🤣 I try to follow fundamental analysis and short of weed stocks, on which I've lost money, and blackberry which should recover any decade now, I am on up at least 100%. My biggest winners are ASTS, Nvidia, Rcat, Nokia and Lumen. I've also made 20k+ on Pump and Dump stocks like Bynd, OPPT etc. I wouldn't dare give investment advice for individual stocks though, as I feel the markets are rigged and action packed with insider deals. However, your record seems much more impressive so I am all ears.

ToSeeAgainAgainAgain

The reason I hate about them is that I can't play and buy other stocks, because 90% of my capital is already in ASTS. Ugh the boring middle

kidike

It’s just physics, Starlink can’t compete with ASTS, bigger antenna equals standard connectivity to any device (think IoT), cars, drones, wearables… Starlink wants to brute force the market flooding the space with thousands of satellites that need to be replaced every 1-2 years, it’s a CAPEX nightmare

IDrinkSulfuricAcid

NTRA is the only one I'm 100% on. I'd give ASTS an 80%.

GriffinPoop

Yeah. And ASTS doesn’t have even a beta service up. Point is they are competitors

Seed_Is_Strong

RKLB is mentioned so many times in this thread. It’s almost down 50% from ATH, will it really go back up anytime soon? I own some shares and might buy more now that it plummeted but I just figured it was way too speculative and everyone bailed on it along with ASTS which I also own.

Westeros

Right, but look at EV/Sales multiples even, next year included for rocket lab. Even if they convert full pipeline it’s investing at a 20-25x rev multiple. 40-45x right now. It’s not a “good” entry. ASTS you’d have to hope for insane growth to rationalize the price. My point being, I am pricing in growth - and asking if current price makes a good entry.

Academic_District224

Well ASTS requires satellites in the sky and it seems to be the last thing they're doing. They haven't launched in 442 days. Their playbook is to overpromise with hyper aggressive borderline delusional timelines just to pump the stock and then dilute to raise cash. Rinse, and repeat. I like the company's mission but management is not for the faint hearted.

Purpletorque

Those can’t do 4g and 5g broadband with existing phones. They are going direct to phone but it will take two years to develop and test new chips for phones. ASTS will be able to compete here also but for now they are the only ones that will ever have broadband to all current phones. https://ast-science.com/how-you-connect/#main

Westeros

Both are up 100% or more on the year still… RKLB deeply negative on EBITDA & profit basis. 70% top line growth good but not unicorn valuation levels… Meanwhile ASTS actually declined top line, is in single digit millions revenue and burning half a billion. Why are either of them worth consideration at these prices?

corndogslayer

ASTS

conradical30

This thread has me so excited. I’ve got significant amounts of ASTS, RKLB, KRKNF, TE, and ONDS. Reeeeally hopeful about the future.

Slow_Investment_2211

ASTS is where I placed my bets

arrty

My vote on ASTS and RDDT

chainer3000

I am balls deep in ASTS, rocket lab, NBIS, and IREN. Reddit is my side piece

Stunning-Lemon-76

$ASTS

Purpletorque

I own both and Starlink is not competing with ASTS yet and won’t in the area that ASZtS is focused on. RKLB has a long way to go. Just put it on the shelf and come back in five years.

BigWarning8696

yeah imo 2026 will be better for ASTS but RKLB is just as good over the longterm and most likely to be successful. ASTS kinda has that starlink competition

chainer3000

Been in ASTS since low single digits. They also fall way behind milestones. You just kinda have to believe in the vision, which at this point seems all but confirmed

Purpletorque

RKLB is a slow burn but ASTS is about to blow up.

DesignerSea494

WSB can be a good resource. For every 10,000 shit posts there’s 1-2 good pieces of information. Just have to do your own DD on anything you hear. I heard about ASTS, RKLB, and SMR when they were all $2-$4 from shit posting here.

ErrorcMix

!banbet ASTS 70 45d

catpicsforfree

My *very* reddit influenced portfolio has outperformed the S&P 4:1 this year. (ASTS, GOOG, RKLB, AMPX, MU, HGRAF, ONDS, UURAF, NBIS, RDDT, etc.) There are some really good stock tips around here, if you are able to sort through the pumpers & idiots.

SpezJailbaitMod

I put a $2.5 call on my watchlist for ASTS. Up thousands of percent now.  Never actually bought any.

Itchy_Pudding_9940

making money on a high risk stock like ASTS or APLD or CRWV and not taking profits at all time highs.. and then chasing the dips on the way down and losing more money.. i get afraid of taking profits and paying taxes and then it goes lower and i don't want to sell and be a wimp... keep waiting for the bottom to buy more but it goes down like 30% and i get burned several times. now i take small profits and leave money on the table with stocks like these.. jump in and out. other stocks i hold for long term like goog and unh

Paul_Robert_

C'mon $ASTS, just a little further and my $60 12/19 calls will be in the green

solariac

ASTS mooning

OREG_Keith

My purchases this morning, if any of them dip, will be the same as the past week and a half, adding more SHOP, INTC, GOOG, BBAI, ASTS and gold stocks, Barrick & SBSW. I doubled down on SHOP a little over 6 months ago on a long hold and doubled my position again since then. It’s up almost 60% for me in that time period. I expect it to double in the next 2 years. Good luck on this shortened trading day regards!

Human_Register_5161

Dca in! Every month regardless of price. I think ASTS will do very well longterm

ALiferInKorea

Are you me? Also for ASTS.

MindYoBusin3ss

Not moving on from stocks I sold/ wanted to buy. For example I, I had a lot of ASTS that I sold a little too early and since then I have been watching the stock like a deranged toxic ex; Constantly contemplating buying back in, seething when it’s up and celebrating when it’s down.

thegame42069

Can someone ELI5 why space related stocks get so mcuh talk here and wsb? ASTS, RKLB, etc

OREG_Keith

Definitely, my purchases tomorrow morning will be the same as the past week and a half, adding more SHOP, INTC, GOOG, BBAI, ASTS and gold stocks, Barrick & SBSW. I doubled down on SHOP a little over 6 months ago on a long hold and doubled my position again since then. It’s up almost 60% for me in that time period. I expect it to double in the next 2 years. Gold stocks have been ripping and they have been a nice hedge for me.

BagHoldersOfAmerica

ASTS next launch on December 15th? Not a bad time to buy in the $50 range

hiphopanonomos

ASTS sub is posting hype they will be chosen for the golden dome project. I (an ASTS investor) commented that it's not very realistic and would likely go to other companies more tailored to defense or already contributing to iron dome. Chaos and downvoting ensues

Get_rch_or_try_dyin

That was one of the hardest things for me to accept in the market . Sometimes , fundamentals just don’t mean shit. It doesn’t make any sense , and I couldn’t explain it.. Stuff like RGTI and a few of the quantum stocks that have $20b market cap and only $3m of yearly revenue. And they don’t even have a path to profitability. Even ASTS when I bought at $4, I ended up selling in the mid $20 range because I thought it was disconnected from reality, even with their earning potential down the road .

shugo7

!banbet ASTS 80 3w

shugo7

!banbet ASTS 80 1m

shugo7

!Banbet ASTS 80 1m

Much_Candle_942

Recent strength in midcap index (Russell 2000 - IWM) is very promising. S&P might tell a false story - with 50% weight in a few tech giants, but IWM recovering back to pre-dip levels is very reassuring. And still a lot of stocks have hit a level where it feels, they will NOT go down further from here - RKLB, MARA, ASTS, Arista, SERV to name a few.

laddie78

I mean that's never been the case for any growth stock Look at ASTS, OKLO, HIMS, etc

livesunderagiantrock

I don’t understand the bubble. Yiu look at individual tickers and find which ones trading at a PE that it shouldn’t. And you will find it was TESLA and PLTR before and it is them today. AMZN MSFT NFLX META are either flat or down compared to 3 months, 6 months and year before. Google has risen but deservedly so. It’s still not overpriced but right priced. Smaller emerging plays like RKLB UNH NVO ASTS across the sector has had significant pull backs. That AI bubble impacts certain companies which went up on OpenAI news and to me that’s not a bubble but just a wrong read on the situation. For me, I am semi conductors completely and anything that has touched OpenAI, for everything else, I am all in. My big play now is 6 months calls on META NFLX and AMZN .. along with 2 year leaps on RKLB NVO and UNH .. and there’s Goog With 2 year leaps but that is at 30% of my account now. So all other are noises. Even if there is pullback, I think GOOG will come back to this.

ForgivenessIsNice

ASTS and RKLB are not trash

PokemonAnimar

Thats why I never touch the margin even thought it is so utterly tempting. I started buying ASTS at $4 and RKLB at $5 and have held ever since.. except my averages are way more now because i believe in both of those companies, and their CEOs and their vision.. I'm done speculating.. if these companies crash then I deserve to lose my life saving but I am a true believer and will not sell until I can either afford a nice house or can retire from the profits

Ineedstopcovercalyol

Out of all space companies like RKLB, ASTS, and other good performers, I had to pick this garbage and of course that moron CEO come and fuck everything up…. Even if my cost average was not that bad, I was forced to margin call and could not take the stress of being down every single day

pistachiopias

The fuck happened to $ASTS? It's pretty much halved from its ATH of $102 a little over a month ago. Seems like space stocks in general have been taking a beating lately.

pistachiopias

They're crying in the corner with the ASTS bulls.

catpicsforfree

Lot of growth/growth plays feel like they are on sale right now, and have been derisked significantly compared to a few months ago. NBIS, RKLB, AMPX, ONDS, ASTS, POET

MethFistHo

Yup. I'm all in on ASTS and RKLB and I've got a bunch of URA, UUUU, BWXT, ASPI, and other uranium stuff. Holding LUNR and bought META

n0m0rem0ney

just bought ASTS call June 2026 $60

chainer3000

Pretty simple. I had these rocket lab leaps for Neutron, which has had its pad testing delayed into mid 2026. Before then, ASTS wants to have dozens of sats up in the air. Seems like the right move would to be heavy in ASTS for first half 2026 and rotate back to a more even split by mid 2026 What makes me hesitate is I believe in rocket labs stated timeframes than ASTS

Historical_Stage2622

$ASTS pamp imminent

chainer3000

Thinking of dumping rocket lab leaps to double down on ASTS leaps

Get_rch_or_try_dyin

ASTS was a “meme stock” , RKLB was , Nvidia was , ONDS was , and I’m sure a ton of others that rallied . Someone is always upset when a stock price does down. FYI, I don’t have a position in NBIS, but I have researched them and I think they have a bright future

Paul_Robert_

Alright guys, I'm about to breakeven on my $ASTS $60 12/19 calls after being down for a week. Every time this happened previously, I sold and watched as the underlying stock went ballistic. So now I'm just going to hold, and watch it drop to $0 😭

RaptorKing95

ASTS

OREG_Keith

Today will be the same as Friday, Monday and Tuesday adding more SHOP, INTC, GOOG, BBAI, ASTS and gold stocks, Barrick & SBSW. I doubled down on SHOP a little over 6 months ago on a long hold and doubled my position again since then. It’s up almost 60% for me in that time period. I expect it to double in the next 2 years. ASTS I bought at $25 PS and sold half of my position at $100. I’ve been consistently adding again since it hit $50 and holding long now. Gold stocks have been my hedge and I took all my profits on 🌽 when it fell below $100k after hanging in for 4 years. I will never buy crypto again. It’s over IMO. AI stocks instead! Good luck today regards!

Coley44

Interested in the meme stock thesis for NBIS? CRWV is absolutely saddled with debt and has little to no cash on hand, OKLO make literally no revenue and is the highest form of speculation but NBIS ARR for 2026 is 7-9Bill and has 20 billion in contracts for the next five years? Don’t buy the tops for sure but it’s a screaming buy atm. Just the nature of high beta stocks during their big breakout moments. I don’t know enough about ASTS but they also have genuine revenue no?

MCB1317

Don't invest in meme-stocks. OKLO? NBIS? CRWV? ASTS? Pieces of shit like that are the canary in the coal mine, my brother.

Le_lievre

ASTS is a good candidate. But NVDA is a ufo.

The_Bourge

Solid move, cheers to that. My best move was ASTS ~2 years ago. Kinda spoiled me tbh

Iunatic

Whenever you see this string of comments you know they haven't read the Kook Report on ASTS. If you do you may change your viewpoint on the stock

RustyNards

Why are so many people pumping ASTS? Seems overpriced when looking at their market cap vs earnings.

ptfirethrowaway

I'm going to buy a bit of ASTS on market open

sharkykid

ASTS, but you've missed these avg costs already

SaltVomit

I've been loading up on ASTS, RKLB, HIMS, & BULL. Dumping leftovers into VOO.

IcarusOnReddit

Touching anything Trump touches is asking for pain. He brings the hype to do nothing and buy the puts.  I will admit to selling covered calls on ASTS and being up 60% since I bought. Gamblers make me so much money.

Paul_Robert_

Buying $ASTS shares at $11 was the best idea I got from WSB. Selling it at $13, then buying back at ~$23 was my own idea unfortunately 💀 Selling $31 covered calls was also my own idea 😭

bouncetradeio

What We Cannot Confirm (or is Highly Speculative): "Steadily Growing Revenue": Unconfirmed by provided data: The market data provided for SATL shows 'No. of analysts: --' and 'Avg. Estimate: --' for both earnings and revenue. This indicates a complete lack of analyst coverage in the provided dataset. While a company could have growing revenue without analyst coverage, we cannot confirm this claim using the data at hand. For a company in an emerging sector, it's not uncommon to be pre-revenue or to have highly volatile revenue in early stages. You would need to check their official financial reports (10-K, 10-Q filings) to verify their revenue growth. "Backed by the Trump administration": Speculative/Misleading phrasing: While the company has investors with ties to the Trump administration (like Steve Mnuchin) and its technology has national security implications, saying it's "backed by the Trump administration" directly is a strong claim. Government support often comes in the form of contracts or strategic importance, rather than direct "backing" of a private company by an entire administration. It's more accurate to say it has strong political connections and relevance. "Trump might buy 10% stake": Pure Speculation: There is absolutely no public information or data to support this claim. This is a highly speculative statement that should not be factored into investment decisions. "Moon like ASTS did from $2 per share to $100+ per share in a year (from April 2024 to October 2025)" and "Best stock since IXHL at 0.21 cent then it goes up to 1.73 in 2 weeks so it made 8X": Highly Speculative & Unrealistic Expectations: While it's great to have investment goals, expecting a stock to "moon" from $2 to $100+ (a 5000% gain) in such a short timeframe is extremely ambitious and statistically rare. As I mentioned before, ASTS did see significant movement, but such explosive gains are outliers. Your previous success with IXHL was fantastic, but past performance, especially rapid short-term gains, is not indicative of future results. Relying on these types of "moonshot" expectations for any stock carries very high risk. It's important to differentiate between hopeful speculation and a robust investment thesis based on fundamentals. 📊 Summary & Key Takeaways for SATL: Market Price: SATL is indeed trading under $2, currently at $1.57. High-Profile Connections: Your claims about connections to Cantor Fitzgerald/Howard Lutnick's sphere, SoftBank, and potentially Steve Mnuchin are largely consistent with public knowledge about SATL's investor base and history. Strategic Relevance: Its role in Earth Observation and its partnerships with entities like NASA, Palantir, and SpaceX highlight its strategic importance and operational capabilities in the space sector. Lack of Financial Data/Analyst Coverage: The most significant finding from the provided data is the complete absence of analyst coverage for SATL's earnings and revenue estimates. This means the market, as reflected by these data points, does not have public consensus on its financial performance or future outlook. This makes the claim of "steadily growing revenue" difficult to verify without checking the company's own financial reports. High Speculation: Many of your expectations, especially regarding price "mooning" and specific political actions (like Trump buying a stake), are highly speculative and not based on verifiable facts or reasonable projections. My advice remains: While SATL has some compelling aspects regarding its technology and connections, the lack of readily available analyst data on its financials means you'll need to do a deeper dive into their official SEC filings (like 10-K and 10-Q reports) to understand their revenue growth, profitability, and overall financial health. Always balance exciting potential with a realistic assessment of financial performance and market risks.

tonufan

Healthcare like UNH should pop in 2026. Speculative space stocks like RKLB and ASTS have a lot of potential. META and Amazon are looking like safe picks if performance continues.

LongjumpingFault1380

I’m becoming a regard…full port ASTS or ONDS? Or split?

solariac

I think the market has gotten over ASTS being late. Anything space is expected to have delays (RKLB), and they have beyond enough cash to complete full constellation buildout, as well as definitive agreements with all of the big telecoms sans Tmobile. Gone is the risk of bankruptcy or ridiculous dilution (at least, not the same level as when they were raising cash at $5-$2 lol). If they can deliver 1/10 of what they are promising this valuation is nothing.

Burger_Gouger

Stupid cash account keeping me from making plays today. Seems like a good time to load up on ASTS calls for spring