ATR

Delicious_Put_5857

we're like 200% of ATR would make sense to chill out here a bit lol

hloodybell

Exactly, you can be right in the direction etc but if you chose the wrong strike, dte, strategy (sell/buy, naked/spreads etc.), you can still lose. Also, most "hope" strategies will not be consistently profitable on lower DTE. That is just how options work. OP talks about 1DTE spx but stats indicate price, not options/profitability. Is there a SL? is there a PT? Is the volatility, implied move and ATR considered? When was the exit planned? This is just a poor quality engagement bait post.

SangerGRBY

Use ATR set a stop price.

No_Presentation9490

Until it doesn't. And the shares are fucking expensive AND have a 200 ATR. You can lose your shirt just like that

asmit10

Letting winners run doesn’t mean not selling them, it means having a trailing stop that is looser than your initial stop when buying the position. Like quallamaggie’s breakout buying. You use LOD or 1ATR stop on entry and if that doesn’t get triggered and it breaks out than you use closed below 10 day or 20 day as stop.

mycostbase

The biggest issue is ATR > $15. Absolute ATR heavily biases the screen toward expensive, highly volatile stocks. A $15 ATR on a $100 stock is radically different from $15 on a $700 stock. I recommend to use ATR as a percentage of price, perhaps with a range such as 2%–5%, depending on the strategy.

zlordbeats

wtf is ATR idiot

Altair82

memory barely breached its ATR and you see it worthless with no upside maybe this isn't the right hobby for you?

shoebucks_moonpie

Using resistances, moving averages, ATR or volume to identify exit is key. I was greedy and would wait for a bounce when I saw rejections. One of the problems for me is that I have a full-time job, so I cannot monitor my positions continuously.

Altair82

MU has an ATR of 8+% If you think 1% movement during low volume 4am trading means anything, good or bad, you belong here. Just take a chill pill until the institutions wake up. Maybe it will drop today, maybe not.

Delicious_Put_5857

3- short ES to ATR low, long SPX calls from bottom tick

908118investing

**Hopium is a hell of a drug, and this is my last word of advice here.** **Go run an AI comparison between Snap and Reddit(since you brought it up)right now and see if your thesis holds even an ounce of water. It doesn’t by the way.** **Better yet, plug your age, financial goals, and portfolio allocation into a model and ask it to deprogram your retail gambler mindset. Ask it how professional swing trading actually works, maybe start with learning how to execute ladder buys and sells based on Average True Range (ATR) instead of just guessing where a bottom is. There are more levels but this is a good place to start.** **Looking at SNAP's chart, this is easily the slowest, most agonizing form of "swing trading" I’ve ever seen. Don't let pride blind you; the market will teach you a lesson one way or another, and it all comes down to how much hopium you are willing to let rot your portfolio.** **Personally, I won't allocate more than a tiny single-digit percentage of a "play money" account to an asset this low-quality. Sure, any broken stock can randomly pop, that’s the nature of the market, but right now SNAP is trading like a glorified penny stock. The risk-to-reward ratio is completely broken. Snap would never make it to** **my****, is this a good stock list? It doesn’t check any of my required requirements. Doesn’t mean someday it won’t.** **The sooner you learn this you will have a leg up and your chances go way up…there is always risk why give the house a larger advantage then you have to.** **Good luck to you I honestly wish you the best in your investing future.** **If you want some good stocks I’ve had very good luck with scalping some of the shares are bought and sold same day. I take what it gives me. I’m never trying to catch the top or the bottom.** **I’m currently Heavy in Ai, semi’s, pick and shovel AI stocks…I have other defense, the mag 7 shares in this account as well, always maintain a cash position that’s there to fund the set traps that are set and ready when the market give it up…My watchlist for my scalper positions sits about 30-40 deep at any given time, look to add and delete each day or two. I change how I invest in them based off** **an** **advanced ATR based rungs on buy and sell ladders…it takes chasing out, seems boring until you see it working with taking all the stress out of it and the removal of the bad human traits. I’m no longer emotionally connected to any stock. If it will pay me..it can be my friend for now until it starts to act flaky I’m out to find new friends that will pay me.** **Few Examples of the AI, semi’s, and pick and shovel stock** **Intc** **Amd** **Amat** **Anet** **Avgo** **Crdo** **Etn** **Klac** **Lrcx** **Meta** **Msft** **Mrvl** **Onto** **Nvda** **Mu** **Fcx** **Slb** **Tsm** **Etc.**

StephenMorphIQ

Externalizing the decision process is useful. I’d separate hard risk constraints from signal confirmations, though. RSI, MACD, moving averages, Bollinger bands, support/resistance, and breakout volume are mostly transformations of the same price and volume history. Agreement among them can make one underlying signal look like six independent votes. Likewise, “3 of 5 models agree” only means something if the models are calibrated out of sample and their errors aren’t strongly correlated. I’d also be careful making “positive EV” and half-Kelly checklist assertions. Kelly sizing is extremely sensitive to the estimated edge. For an options trade, I’d size against scenario loss under spot gaps and volatility changes first, then treat an ATR stop as an execution tool rather than a guaranteed loss boundary. For each item, I’d ask: is this a true constraint, an independent signal, or a risk control, and what evidence shows that adding it improves the process? More gates always produce fewer trades, but not necessarily better ones.

iamjt

These days it's like 3 ATR of stop loss margin. Anything less wouldn't do

SPY_one_zillion

SPY 756 1DTE - 2000% jump 1 ATR move

Delicious_Put_5857

bro ban betting SPY 1D within the ATR lmao

Delicious_Put_5857

dunno necessarily how to define a strategy cuz its variable but 20 SMA rejections, DRAM momentum reversal were notable. but then closing shorts and hopping back in long around ATR lows cuz nothing was overall wrong wrong.

Good_Character_20

For ATM butterflies and condors, gamma scales roughly as 1/sqrt(time). Gamma at 7 DTE is about 3x what it is at 60 DTE. Theta scales the same way but accelerates in your favor as DTE shrinks. The crossover where gamma risk overwhelms theta collection is typically around 21 DTE for ATM structures, which is why Tasty's "manage at 21 DTE" rule got popular. That number isn't magic but it's a reasonable heuristic for ATM defined-risk plays. For monthly expiries, the rotation that fits this math is open at 45-60 DTE, close or roll at 21 DTE. In late June you'd open August (\~55 DTE), then in late July close August around 21 DTE while opening September. That keeps you in the theta-rich middle of the curve and avoids the gamma-explosion zone. 60+ DTE isn't "too high" by gamma math, it's just suboptimal theta collection. 10 DTE isn't "too low" by theta math, it's where one unexpected move wipes a week of credit. The diagnostic that matters more than DTE in isolation is what move size blows up your structure. For a 5-wide iron condor, compute the max loss at current DTE vs at 5 DTE for the same underlying move (say 1 ATR). The ratio is usually 2-3x, which is exactly the marked gamma. If you're not comfortable taking that hit, you're already in the gamma zone regardless of what the calendar says.

iyurek-ai

https://preview.redd.it/qzlpbemj8aah1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=046d82175b733285693f987db6625669d8d5ec64 For tomorrow my plan -on SPY- is to wait for a pullback to the lower ATR band around 735.41, then look for confirmation before entering long with calls; if CDV stays above current levels then entering at 740.01 which is the lower ATR band in the Day, 5 min timeframe.

optimaleverage

The difference between AH/PM and RTH price action was always stark, but since the mag 7 0dtes im that difference is extreme! ATR triples in RTH, at least.

music_is_gud

Gonna sell a lotta CSPs on Monday. On random high ATR garbo stocks.

Necessary_Bear2343

Maybe you should bother checking the ATR once in a while

Ok_Freedom3290

You're not imagining it. 0DTE premiums expand when the market anticipates range-bound volatility or sudden liquidity wicks. I track the Z-score of implied volatility versus historical realized ATR to see if we're statistically overextended. I built a live dashboard to monitor this ([https://alphasignal.digital](https://alphasignal.digital/)) so I don't buy overpriced premium on low-volatility days.

fldijohn

I enter into weekly BPCS using the XSP Index. I open them on Monday after the market opens, and close them on Friday EOD. I usually use a 1-Wide spread between my short and long put, and I determine my short put strike using a 20 Day ATR, and then verify that the price from the 20 Day ATR is in the range of a -20 Delta or less. I also check the VIX, and based on how high I may not trade that week. I also forgo the trade if I can't get a fill around teh mid price. My exit strategy is pretty simple, as soon as I see the price get within 1 or 2 points of my short, I close the spread. This week, I did something a little different to gain more credit: I took a 5-wide spread, so 727 SP and 722 LP. Because things dropped pretty fast today, teh cost between my SP and LP was more money than if I had traded a 1-wide spread. Not too costly a lesson, just $163 this week, but next week if I get a buy signal, I'll keep my spread to 1-wide.

ApathysLastKiss_

Yeah that was just a ballpark. I'd use ATR and set it five percent below that IRL

iamwhiskerbiscuit

The most important thing to me is we broke the 21 EMA on SPY with no attempt to recover. We are most likely headed to the 50 SMA. That's the first support level. I am going to be playing the short side at least until we hit that level. Watch ATR on the min candles. If it drops for at least 20 minutes while we're at support, we'll likely see a relief rally. If ATR continues to climb as we reach support, we are more likely to fall through. Been observing this for months and it works like 85% of the time... Granted, it is far less reliable on trend days.

iamfr33agent

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inwardPersecution

I haven't tested it thoroughly as I got sick of looking at it and went back to stocks. The setups it gives are legit based on the criteria so far, but no where near hands off. It's bias to the last 30 days and clamped to the daily chart. Here's a chunk from just now: `── USD/CHF @ 0.79103 [Daily: RANGING | Weekly: RANGING | RANGING] Bias: BULLISH_BIAS ──` `ⓘ No clear direction on either timeframe` `📐 Recent swing seq: HIGH → LOW → HIGH` `🗓 Weekly (26 bars): MA10=$0.78659 MA21=$0.78419 Price vs MA10: 0.56%` `📍 30d range: $0.77660 - $0.79220` `Position: 92% of range | ATR: 0.00524 (0.66%)` `Last swing high: $0.78880 (2026-05-20)` `Last swing low: $0.77777 (2026-05-11)` `🏗 Struct support: $0.76662 (3 tests)` `🏗 Struct resistance: $0.77876 (3 tests)` `🏗 Other S/R levels: $0.77876(3x), $0.79066(3x), $0.76662(3x), $0.77805(3x)` `📊 Candle: 3_BAR_PUSH` `Fib support: $0.78852, $0.78624, $0.78440, $0.78256, $0.77994` `🎯 Setups (1):` `🔴 RANGE_PLAY SHORT MEDIUM Zone: $0.78696 - $0.79220` `Trigger: Price rejects from range resistance` `Target: $0.77660` `Stop: $0.78400 [struct_res=0.77876]`

theBacillus

You are right ATR will tell you the average moves, if expanding volatility is higher

ChickenMazhou

I thought ATR was backward-looking and thus VIX might be more helpful for trading options. But maybe I’m missing something, or perhaps they can both be used to provide greater insight or detail.

theBacillus

Use ATR

Got_Engineers

Search Kristjan Qullamaggie he’s a famous Swedish trader and his system and setups are all online and documented. Basically momentum breakouts on high beta / high ATR stocks. Framework applies to any kind of asset but his system lets you find the next rocket labs and ASTS sort of things . Listen to the talk with traders interview with Qullamaggie on YouTube he explains his exact setups and how to read Ethel there from like ~4 years ago. Plan A - find stocks - find the winners of the stocks - calculate returns and measure by 1 month, 3 month and 6 month - measure ACF, momentum, volatility, - rank this list. These are the winners of the winners. - spend 1000s of hours learning to spot when stocks go up and why - track the winners and buy when the signals align.

Downtown_Extension_6

Hey, sounds like you're in a great spot — $14k in profit on a diversified portfolio is solid. The "cash on the sidelines" anxiety is real and very common. I built **ProspectAI** (https://prospect-ai.moisesprat.dev) specifically for situations like yours. It's a multi-agent AI pipeline that does in \~2 minutes what would take hours manually:   1. **Scans Reddit + financial forums** to find the stocks retail investors are actually talking about (not just what Wall Street pushes)   2. **Runs 13+ technical indicators** (RSI, MACD, Bollinger Bands, ATR, etc.) to assess momentum and entry timing   3. **Grades fundamentals** — P/E, margins, FCF, revenue growth — so you're not buying hype   4. **Generates a composite score** (0–100) weighing sentiment, momentum, and fundamentals   5. **Produces a portfolio allocation** with specific entry zones, stop-losses, and take-profit targets   For your situation — $25k in cash, already holding VTI/QQQ/VXUS as your core — ProspectAI would identify *which sectors or individual stocks* are showing strong momentum right now with favorable risk/reward setups, and give you concrete entry prices rather than "just do it" or "wait." It's sector-specific: Technology, Semiconductors, Healthcare, Finance, Energy, Consumer, Industrials, Real Estate, Utilities. You tell it the sector, it does the research, and an adversarial critic agent challenges the recommendations before you see them.     The pipeline runs end-to-end in under 2 minutes and gives you actionable positions with entry/stop/target — not just vibes.

AcademicStandard3701

Because of its higher ATR on the stock now and IV jack with options.

New-Performance-7047

Random guy on the internet here! NINJA HACK Alert!!!‼️ I would consider rolling down to an 80 delta that has more OI. And I would try to keep rolling as long as possible. This could turn into a free trade for you. Each time you roll for a credit that reduces your risk in the trade. Start looking for roll opportunities every 2 ATR and if things look sketchy tighten your trailing stop (assuming you have one). It is going up, can’t say how far it will go so why try? Let it go up until it doesn’t. Then exit the trade. Might be tomorrow, might be next week. ¿Quien sabes? Random Guy out!

Waste-Chest-9715

yeah stop loss is everything with this setup, gonna factor that in what type you using — fixed %, ATR, or candle low? also any take profit or other parameters? can a stock have multiple stocks open at the same time?

RealAvidTrader

0DTE is impossible to give a text response that will truly help you. zero day expiration's are essentially the highest risk, highest reward vehicle in the market For most its throwing darts and gambling, only showcasing wins But like any stock, option, investment vehicle with enough experience and patience you can do very well trading it. Again I say most people are not successful because their brains are not wired for that type of action. Minutes and literal seconds can determine everything, earnings, Fed data, events all impact major indexes and that factors into fair value pricing on the premiums (IV) I can go on for days but unless you are playing with small money, expecting to lose and starting very slow - trading 0DTE will most likely be an emotional roller coaster filled with stress FOMO and losses Best advice start with 1 contract only if you must play it and let it chill. See what happens I don't use any indicators, just ATR to price the options correctly and also experience with fair value, pricing of the premiums (IV). Stick with 1 name for then 6 months and study it everyday, see how it goes

TheMegaSage

[DETAILED MODE] ### PHASE 1: THE TEAR SHEET (LIVE DATA DASHBOARD) * Stock Name: Nokia Corp ADR * Stock Symbol: NOK * Price Action: $15.47 (Live) | +9.02% (Live Daily Change) | $14.45 (Open) | $14.19 (Prev Close). * Historical Price Return: +55.20% (1-Month Return) | +110.51% (Year-to-Date Return). * Options Structural Data: May 29, 2026 (6 DTE Expiry) | $16.00 (Target 1 / Call Wall Strike) | $17.00 (Target 2 / Exhaustion Ceiling) | $15.00 (Local VPOC Floor) | $14.00 (Historical Macro Floor). * Volume & Liquidity: 95,081 Call Vol / 54,954 Put Vol (Live Volume) | Heavy (vs. 30-Day Avg). * Volatility & Risk: $0.26 (Live ATR). * Sector Benchmark: Technology Equipment Sector is +1.29%. * Broad Market Benchmark: SPY is +0.05%. ### PHASE 2: THE FUNDAMENTAL REALITY CHECK (DATA + NARRATIVE) * Valuation (Hard Data): 89.69x P/E Ratio vs. Lower Sector Average (Trading at a steep premium to historical norms). * Profitability (Hard Data): Positive Operating Cash Flow | ~$19.2B Annual Revenue. * Cash Runway: N/A (Self-Sustaining, cash-dividend paying). * Revenue Reliability: Stable hardware revenues, though traditional telecom growth is slowing. * Competitive Moat & Maturity: Telecommunications Infrastructure & Networking | Established global player transitioning into AI data centre networks. * Momentum Exhaustion Flag (The Journey Context): The stock has surged over 55% in the last month and over 10% in the last session alone, placing it in an extended, high-momentum channel that is susceptible to rapid profit-taking. * The Recent News Mandate: The massive volume surge is driven by the launch of Nokia's AI Network Innovation Lab in California and a wave of Wall Street analyst upgrades (e.g., Deutsche Bank, CFRA) highlighting their pivot into AI cloud infrastructure. * The Future State Mandate: Q2 Earnings on July 23, 2026. * Fundamental Synthesis & Conviction Level: Fundamentally sound, legacy tech giant successfully rotating its narrative into the AI supercycle. Viable for a longer-term swing hold, though short-term price action is technically overbought. ### PHASE 3: THE PRESSURE TEST (THE SETUP) * 1. Short Interest Percentage (SI%): < 5.0% (Background Noise). Normal market mechanics. * 2. Cost to Borrow Rate (CTB): < 1.0% (General Collateral). No financial pain. Shares are abundant, and shorts can hold indefinitely. * 3. Days

FigIndividual8074

Price at open/close, IVR, IV percentile, greeks, DTE, underlying ATR, and IV crush after earnings are huge. Also track *why* you entered the trade and your confidence level. The psychology + setup context becomes way more valuable than people expect after 100+ trades.

Tonka-Jahari-Pizza

Ah i see, nice one, What do you use it with? ATR? EMA?

itssampson

Drugsorb ATR is the device, Cytosorbents is the manufacturer

New-Performance-7047

I’ve been swing trading since March since deciding on my trading plan. 0DTE is crazy to me! I trade only call options, at least 30DTE, set stop loss at 2ATR, roll for profit at 1-2 ATR if possible and each 1/2 ATR if possible and will keep rolling up and/or out as long as its paying. I use 10/20/50 MA to identify directional trend and buy on the way up and sell on the way down (asap in both directions). I will sit in an interest bearing fund until my setups occur as long as it takes to not FU my account. That’s the plan, but I got cheeky and tried to put on some trades outside of my plan and reduced my profits from 120% in 3 months to 70% in one week. Stick to the PLAN!

RevolutionaryFly3430

If someone didn’t know any better, you could use a pair of slow moving averages (100 + 200 emas), trade the first cross over of major future indices (/es) just after session open (18:00), use a x1.0 ATR stop loss, and close your position via stop loss or EOD the following NYSE session. Of course, not much dopamine in trading only once a day and only winning ~15% of trades. Do with this information what you will.

-medicalthrowaway-

When in doubt, close it out. No one ever went broke from taking profits and it’s a lot easier to accept ‘I made 10k when it could have been 20k’ than ‘I lost 2k when it could have been 10k’ Closing a portion of the position and letting runners run is an option. A trailing stop or, if your broker doesn’t offer it, add your own stop-markets a certain percentage below the bid price and then modify it if price continues to run You can also use ATR to set trailing stops by multiplying ATR x 1.5 or 2 x current delta of the options contract You mentioned good faith violations, which means you’re not working with enough capital to day trade at the amounts you want to. Don’t full port. Use half of your funds initially, that way you can average down if it corrects and you still have conviction in the direction, or you want to add to your position, or if you need to simply close it out and switch directions. Have a set profit target and a set loss amount you’re willing to tolerate That’s what I mean. Develop a strategy. The strategy is more than picking the position. Entries/exits are arguably the most important part of the strategy. You need to either be saying, “I’m going to close at a 25 or 50% gain and stop out at 10% loss” or “I’m going to close if RSI breaks above 75, price bounces off VWAP, price enters an order block, MACD falls/rises (whatever)” It is trading on vibes unless you go in with a plan And learn to appreciate the advice from people who don’t just pat you on the butt and say, “it’ll be alright” I don’t trust people who won’t be blunt with me. Tough love makes you tougher. And, last but not least, if you reach that 25 or 50% profit target or technical/indicator profit point and let the greed (that we all battle) win, and don’t close, and you start to lose money… close now. Yes price could correct back, but price can also continue in the opposite direction, and I’d rather have slightly less profit than I could have had than no profit or a loss. It’s realizing your greed in real-time and not switching from strategy to vibes. The best time to close your position is when your strategy dictates. The second best is a second later.

AcademicStandard3701

If the stock/etf has volume and a big ATR range I’ll do options. I’ll buy shares if it barely moves but has decent fundamentals like +6 year bag hold.

NeighborhoodDry1821

ATR is $45 so probably not even bad lol

Normal-Ear-5757

Look at 15-minute ATR. It's collapsed. Something really weird is going on.

music_is_gud

It's 21d ATR is about 7%, so you are saying you will buy after about one day of pullback on MU?

Particular_Crew1614

The surgeon has reviewed the request. ​TV doesn’t allow raw API hooks or JPEGs, so I can't live-scrape the Truth Social feed. BUT... I can build a 'Geopolitical Volatility Engine.' ​If a candle violently exceeds 3x the normal ATR (which usually happens when someone threatens to drop a nuke or tweets at 2 AM), I can rig the chart to automatically drop massive ☢️, 🦅, or 💣 emojis right on the exact minute the market panics. It’ll basically be an algorithmic visualizer for global panic. I'm adding it to the Frankenstein build. Cobra will cook it tonight.

CatchAfilM

I want to understand what is that doing that is not working. I was in a trade on APLD was in at $36.50 and my stop order set to $40. In opening market it immediate triggered, then after \~20 minutes into market sentiment shifts and it went up to \~$44. Now at $46.50. The mistake I made was having that order when opening trading week? Should've I edit my $ order to lower? I am using ATR usually. What are your insights?

leaonas

I’ve been trading ASTS for over a year. I love the ATR. The one bear is the failed launch last month. Not much was said about delays and getting more birds up.

Got_Engineers

So I was doing some research and don’t quote me on this but market makers have a bunch of rules. They don’t have to follow such as a designated marketmaker can short any equity without holding that stock themselves. Under the guise of managing risk. So that means market makers can basically do whatever they want whenever they want. If you ever wonder why your favorite high beta high ATR stocks dump 15% overnight, but rally back to neutral by open. It’s because of the market makers.

nightraider210

I personally give volume the most weight on the break candle then any other indicator. A range high taken on weak volume is usually a fakeout. ATR helps for sizing stops if are in a trade. I also keep an ai indicator called one shot algo on the chart that fires entries with stop and take profit already set. This way I can check if its breakout signal lines up with the level that I was watching. Kind of like a second opinion. I have been doing well with my plan

GoldenHulkbuster

Had to talk myself into trimming more DOCN, AMD and INTC after a month of just ripping in a straight line. 18x ATR% extension from the 50-day on a mega cap name is fucking wild.

music_is_gud

Selling at the right time is much more difficult than buying tbh. I, and even expert fund managers, struggle with that too. It's really an art. Re. CANSLIM, I literally learnt that through Bill O Neil's book. It really did change my life and I wish I read that book much earlier. Again, not affiliated with them, also RIP Bill! It changed the way I think about investing/trading. Re. Volatility, you can also trade stocks with lower ATRs. MU for example had a much higher ATR, but there are other stocks that are better in terms of volatility and still provide good opportunities. MRVL is one example.

Turbulent_Cycle_7757

All I know is NVDA put the final nail in the coffin for me of selling credit spreads, and I won on the trade. 3 ATR drop in 4 days and nearly breaking the 20 EMA in a week that the market is setting records has me cured of making pennies in front of the steamroller

Tutrastra

0DTE is a lottery. You can win big on high volatility days (ATR >100 points) but as the volatility VIX goes below 20 is just a loosing game. The longer the expiration the better. Focus on swing trading.

YukiSAC

It’s a stock with ATR over 10%, this kind of swing is really nothing.

itssampson

Prediction: CTSO will announce an FDA submission in the coming weeks/months, and when they do, it will have one of those pre-market liquidity events that this sub loves to chase. Why not position early. Furthermore, I believe approval is likely, since the product in question is already available and in use across the rest of the world. FDA approval of Drugsorb ATR will result in a significant re-rating of the stock.

Agreeable_Royal_636

For breakouts I watch volume on the break candle more than any single indicator. A range high taken on weak volume is usually a fakeout. ATR helps for sizing stops once youre in. Tradingview screener is fine for filtering by % moves and volume, then you eyeball the chart. I also keep an ai indicator called one shot algo on the chart that fires entries with stop and take profit already set, so I can check if its breakout signal lines up with the level i was watching. Works as a second opinion.

bobby992992

i know what you're going to do this week. i've watched it for ten years. https://preview.redd.it/sluic627lkxg1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=31d3a3de51b93c37ddbf076bca50af362daf71c3 [](https://preview.redd.it/fomc-4-mag-7-earnings-in-24-hours-here-is-exactly-how-each-v0-9mqjvoglkkxg1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=c713d6898dd08da0a91792ef085fbb280507e2ec) monday: you buy QQQ puts because it "looks toppy." tuesday: NQ grinds up another 0.4%. you average down on the puts. "this can't keep going." wednesday 1:55pm: you YOLO 0DTE calls 5 minutes before powell speaks because "the dovish pivot is priced in." 2:01pm: powell says one boring word. NQ rips 200 points. your puts go to zero. 2:04pm: NQ reverses 300 points. your calls go to zero too. 2:06pm: somehow you lost money on BOTH sides of the trade. thursday: you post the loss porn. it gets 4k upvotes. friday: you do it again with rent money. every. single. time. \--- let me explain something to the regards in the back. NQ closed friday at 27,440. that is an ALL TIME HIGH. the chart printed higher highs and higher lows for 5 sessions in a row. the trend has been up for 18 months. and a third of you are about to short it because "intel was up 23% in one day, that's unsustainable." brother. the market has been unsustainable since march 2009. you have been wrong for 16 years. you will be wrong this week too. \--- here is the actual setup if you can read past the crayons. new ATH zone: 27,440 to 27,500 1st support: 27,100 to 27,200 breakout retest: 26,900 to 27,000 bull: hold 27,200, clear 27,500, run to 27,800 bear: lose 27,000 before wednesday, dump to 26,800 chop: pin in a 240 point box until powell talks. classic. \--- THIS WEEK YOU FACE tuesday: case-shiller, consumer confidence (nobody cares) wednesday: FOMC 2pm, powell press 2:30, MSFT + GOOGL + META + AMZN all dump earnings after close thursday: GDP, PCE, jobless claims at 8:30, AAPL after close friday: payrolls if we're unlucky four of the five biggest names in the index report Q1 in the same 24 hours as a fed decision. that has happened maybe ten times in your trading life. ATR will double. options vol is going to vaporize whichever side of the iron condor you're sweating. \--- PREDICTIONS 70% chance powell says "well-positioned" five times. NQ pops 100 points then dumps 200. your 0DTE calls expire worthless and your puts also expire worthless because you held them through the bounce. 20% chance one of MSFT GOOGL META AMZN misses on AI capex guidance. NQ futures dump 400 points after-hours. you don't even have a position because you got stopped out earlier in the day on the 1 minute chart. 10% chance everything beats. NQ goes to 27,800. you watch from cash because you blew your account tuesday on 0DTE TSLA puts. \--- this is not financial advice. this is me explaining to you that wednesday at 2pm is not a buying opportunity. it is a kill zone. stop trading 90 minutes before FOMC. stop buying 0DTE calls 5 minutes before powell. stop adding to puts at the literal all time high. your wife's boyfriend already knows this. that's why he's the one driving the new car. \--- positions: cash. like an adult.

leaonas

I’ve been trading ONDS since Nov. I have done all sorts of strategies with it and it’s been the best in my portfolio. I’m up over 120% in 6 months. I am agnostic to getting assigned on the CC’s. I’m usually selling them around 5% OTM + the 2-3% CC premium. I use a combination of CSP, and CC simultaneously to catch the ups and downs. On ONDS and other high beta names like BE, ASTS, RCAT, HUT, and AAOI, I have found rolling is an incredibly lucrative strategy on draw downs and gap ups. I have rolled CSP down $4 to $8 a week for a credit, and with the recent massive gap ups on most of these, I’ve rolled everyone of these up to within 10% of the ATM after 25-100% gaps, for 8-35%. I improved AAOI CC strike prices by as much as $12 for 20 cents on the dollar. The rolling has been a key strategy that I’ve been adapting to. I fend it works best on the stocks with high ATR/IV.

CatchAfilM

Personally I am hedging using stop loss orders. If the stock is up over my technical pattern term I was aiming for, then using stop order using ATR or double ATR.

Coffeewin

Entered SPX CCS 7125/7150, index at +4.5 ATR looking for a mean reversion down to about 7000

Coffeewin

Scaling out of 50% AAPL and MSFT positions. Account is up +47% in two weeks. Indexes are +4.5 ATR, good zone to lighten longs

Normal-Ear-5757

All the institutionals have got out and it's just retailers left and they're all buying the dip and shit.  Like, have you seen the intraday ATR recently? The market's peaked, mark my words.

GerardJessicap

(MBAI) is turning into one of the most active micro‑caps because the MBody AI merger is already moving forward filings done, shareholder approval secured, and the company openly confirming progress. This isn’t a rumor; the transition is underway, and they’ve stated they already work with verified Fortune 500 clients, which signals their tech is the real deal. The last time merger news even hinted at progress, the stock ripped to $4, and now it’s reset around $1.70, leaving a wide runway if momentum returns. The deal shifts Check‑Cap into a full AI automation and robotics‑orchestration company, a massive upgrade from its old medical‑device niche. Micro‑caps tied to AI themes can move fast, and the chart is showing early signs: trading near its 20‑day high, rising RSI around 59, and a tight ATR suggesting a potential volatility expansion. (MBAI) is turning into one of the most active micro‑caps because the MBody AI merger is already moving forward filings done, shareholder approval secured, and the company openly confirming progress. This isn’t a rumor; the transition is underway, and they’ve stated they already work with verified Fortune 500 clients, which signals their tech is the real deal. The last time merger news even hinted at progress, the stock ripped to $4, and now it’s reset around $1.70, leaving a wide runway if momentum returns. The deal shifts Check‑Cap into a full AI automation and robotics‑orchestration company, a massive upgrade from its old medical‑device niche. Micro‑caps tied to AI themes can move fast, and the chart is showing early signs: trading near its 20‑day high, rising RSI around 59, and a tight ATR suggesting a potential volatility expansion.

GerardJessicap

MBAI has become one of the most explosive micro‑caps on the market because the MBody AI merger is already in motion.. filings submitted, shareholder approvals in place, and the company publicly stating they are advancing toward closing. This isn’t speculation… it’s already happening..and they have stated they already have verified F500 customers. The top leading global companies don't just partner with a tiny penny stock without reason..their tech has proven itself. This is the type of catalyst that can trigger a multi‑day momentum wave the moment the final announcement hits. Last time they put out merger teaser news it ran to $4 and now is bottomed out at $1.70 The merger transforms Check‑Cap into MBody AI, a company positioned as a leader in embodied AI enterprise‑grade automation, robotics orchestration, and Fortune 500 deployments. This is a massive pivot from a niche medical device company to a high‑growth AI automation play a sector commanding premium valuations. When micro‑caps shift into AI narratives, they don’t move slowly. Recent trading action shows a textbook pre‑breakout setup: Trading near its 20‑day high on elevated volume RSI \~59, neutral but rising plenty of room to run ATR low, indicating a compressed range ready for expansion

GerardJessicap

MBAI has become one of the most explosive micro‑caps on the market because the MBody AI merger is already in motion.. filings submitted, shareholder approvals in place, and the company publicly stating they are advancing toward closing. This isn’t speculation… it’s already happening..and they have stated they already have verified F500 customers. The top leading global companies don't just partner with a tiny penny stock without reason..their tech has proven itself. This is the type of catalyst that can trigger a multi‑day momentum wave the moment the final announcement hits. Last time they put out merger teaser news it ran to $4 and now is bottomed out at $1.70 The merger transforms Check‑Cap into MBody AI, a company positioned as a leader in embodied AI enterprise‑grade automation, robotics orchestration, and Fortune 500 deployments. This is a massive pivot from a niche medical device company to a high‑growth AI automation play a sector commanding premium valuations. When micro‑caps shift into AI narratives, they don’t move slowly. Recent trading action shows a textbook pre‑breakout setup: Trading near its 20‑day high on elevated volume RSI \~59, neutral but rising plenty of room to run ATR low, indicating a compressed range ready for expansion

Legal_Concentrate_53

MBAI has become one of the most explosive micro‑caps on the market because the MBody AI merger is already in motion.. filings submitted, shareholder approvals in place, and the company publicly stating they are advancing toward closing. This isn’t speculation… it’s already happening..and they have stated they already have verified F500 customers. The top leading global companies don't just partner with a tiny penny stock without reason..their tech has proven itself. This is the type of catalyst that can trigger a multi‑day momentum wave the moment the final announcement hits. Last time they put our merger teaser news it ran to $4 and now is bottomed out at $1.70 The merger transforms Check‑Cap into MBody AI, a company positioned as a leader in embodied AI enterprise‑grade automation, robotics orchestration, and Fortune 500 deployments. This is a massive pivot from a niche medical device company to a high‑growth AI automation play a sector commanding premium valuations. When micro‑caps shift into AI narratives, they don’t move slowly. Recent trading action shows a textbook pre‑breakout setup: Trading near its 20‑day high on elevated volume RSI \~59, neutral but rising plenty of room to run ATR low, indicating a compressed range ready for expansion

GlobalLink99

First: I'd look at the sectors that are winning/trending but I don't buy the efts since they're safer but slower. Then I'd look at some of the individual stocks from either the leading momentum (rsi (\~70 or higher & adr% (5% or higher)) or the growth stock (fundamentals, revenue, etc.). Price and volume are essential and EMA trendlines matter. I often swap between different indicators not listed such as the 5-min ORH, VRVP and ATR% if there's a right time to buy, wait or avoid. There's a lot to think about when trading so I'm trying what works for me.

ReBoomAutardationism

The question you gotta ask yourself punk is this: how many ATR moves can I take getting punched in the mouth? Smaller size gives you room to ride. In a trend it leaves you space to add and still be able to get out flat if it goes pear shaped.

Coffeewin

Just closed /NQ and /ES shorts, switching long now at /NQ at 23165. The probability of a mean reversion pump is very high. Indexes are near -3 ATR and $PCALL is extremely put skewed

iamwhiskerbiscuit

The 320 SMA is a common spot for dips to reverse and we are pretty close to it. Vix is high, and a lot of people are going to short it understanding that it's unlikely to stay this elevated for long. But my biggest indicator to watch is ATR on the intraday chart with 5 min candles. If it's dropping as we hit the 320 support level ready for a bounce. If it keeps going higher and vix remains elevated, I'm shorting. No idea what I'll be doing till I see where we open, where TTM squeeze, vix and ATR are at.. but my current thesis is temporary relief rally. And I'm adding in a high likelihood Trump tweeting "it's a good time to buy" because it's the only trick he hasn't tried that's always worked for pumping the market.

NewsFailures

The framing here (market overreacted to news, fundamentals intact) is essentially a news failure trade — and it's a legitimate setup when the conditions are right. The pattern: bad news hits (CEO swap), market sells off reflexively, but the *actual* business impact is minimal or the market already knew. Smart money fades the reaction. A few things that increase the probability of this working: - **The selloff happened on low volume** relative to the ATR. Panic + thin volume = distribution event, not genuine selling. - **The narrative is testable.** If the automation moat is intact, you'd expect enterprise retention to hold in the next earnings call. That gives the trade a binary catalyst to point at. - **IV is elevated post-event.** Buying calls after a spike in IV is a headwind — you're paying for vol that may mean-revert. A call spread limits that. The risk is if the CEO swap is a symptom of something deeper (product issues, competitive pressures) that the market correctly sniffed out before you did. That's the hard part of fading news — sometimes the market is right.

kachurovskiy

So far I've identified only 2 interesting strategies, both trend-following: ADX more conservative that's supposed to go up even in sideways market, 13% drawdown in 3y simulation; ATR higher CAGR but drawdowns up to 40% during e.g. April 2025.

Hairy_Pension_821

MAs: 50-day ($11.28), 150-day ($11.97), 200-day ($11.29). That tells you the trend has been decisively bearish despite the tariff tailwind. The interesting thing is the MACD is showing early signs of a bullish crossover — MACD line at -0.86 is crossing above the signal line at -0.92. It's subtle but worth watching. If momentum shifts, the oversold RSI gives it room to run. ATR is $0.55 (\~6.8%) — high volatility for an $8 stock. Factor that into position sizing and strike selection. This thing can move 50+ cents on any given day. Key levels: support at $8.09 (basically right here), then $7.73 below. Resistance at $8.69, $9.24, and a stronger wall at $9.93 with 5 touches. For the call thesis: $8 support holding is critical. If it breaks, the tariff narrative alone isn't propping up the chart. If it holds and reclaims $8.69, that's your confirmation the thesis has legs technically. The $9.93 resistance would be a reasonable first target. Not financial advice — just the chart's perspective.

ProfessionalSyrup249

You can wheel in and out of say more stable instruments with moderate ATR but for more money you need to understand how to trade volatility that might take years

iamwhiskerbiscuit

I believe it. The 320 sma is a good spot for a relief rally. If ATR is falling on the intraday 5 min candle chart at open, I am buying spy calls.

Creative_Squash_1083

Counter-analysis: 1. **THE CASH IS IN THE BANK (AND YOUR SHARES ARE DILUTED).** The $10.5M was raised via a PIPE involving Series A preferred stock and blocks of Series B and C warrants. Raising $10.5M on a sub-$5M market cap severely dilutes the retail float. The touted "extra $20M" arrives only if warrants are exercised, creating a permanent ceiling of selling pressure (warrant overhang) that caps upward momentum. 2. **CEO IS PUTTING HIS MONEY WHERE THE INSTITUTIONS TOLD HIM TO.** In micro-cap rescue financings, a CEO buy-in is rarely a voluntary show of confidence. It is a structural requirement demanded by institutional investors. If insiders refuse to put capital at risk, the institutions walk and the deal dies. 3. **MD ANDERSON "PARTNERSHIP" IS A VENDOR CONTRACT.** This is semantic spin. MD Anderson was added in February 2026 as a clinical trial site, not a commercial partner. Biotech companies pay hospitals to run trials. It is a paid vendor relationship, not a medical endorsement. 4. **THE JUNE CATALYST IS A PHASE 1 TRAP.** The mid-2026 data for ATR-04 and ATR-12 comes from early-stage trials designed to prove safety and dosing, not efficacy. Even with positive data, Azitra is years and tens of millions of dollars away from FDA approval. This guarantees future massive dilution to fund Phase 3. 5. **THE COSMETIC SLEEPER IS A DESPERATE PIVOT.** Launching a cosmetic program immediately after a distressed financing is a standard micro-cap distraction. It generates retail hype and promises near-term revenue while cash-burning clinical trials face long regulatory timelines in the background. **The Play:** The volume is surging because warrants are being prepped to dump. The bottom is not in at $0.24. We are consolidating for the next leg down. Analysts have targets at **$2.00+** to create exit liquidity for the institutions, and retail is walking right into the trap.

Upset-Motor-2602

18-point ATR on 5-minute chart for ES is not normal.....

AlbertiApop2029

Hmm... >The recent moves with Azitra (AZTR) highlight a classic "micro-cap biotech" pivot. The company is essentially trying to survive a cash crunch while maintaining its long-term clinical goals. >Here is a breakdown of what these developments actually mean for the stock's outlook: >The Funding "Lifeline" (The PIPE Deal) >The $31.4 million financing deal is a double-edged sword. >The Good: It solves the immediate "going concern" risk. Before this, Azitra had only $2.1 million in cash against an $11 million annual burn. This injection provides the runway needed to reach their H2 2026 clinical data catalysts. >The Bad (Dilution): The deal involves convertible preferred stock and warrants with an exercise price of $0.123. When these convert, the number of outstanding shares will explode. For current shareholders, this means their percentage of ownership will be significantly reduced, which often acts as a "ceiling" on how high the stock price can climb in the near term. >2. The Cosmetic Pivot: Faster Path to Revenue? >Biotech clinical trials take years. By moving into cosmetic proteins/peptides, Azitra is attempting a "shortcut" to revenue. >Market Impact: Unlike drug trials, cosmetic products don't require the same multi-year FDA gauntlet. If they can successfully partner with a major skincare brand in 2026, it would provide non-dilutive cash (revenue), which the market would likely view as a major de-risking event. >3. NYSE Compliance: The Clock is Ticking >The notice of non-compliance is a regulatory "yellow flag." >The Requirement: Azitra needs at least $6 million in stockholders' equity (they were at $3.8M at year-end). >The Impact: They have until April 1, 2027, to fix this. While they aren't getting delisted tomorrow, the stock will remain under a "compliance shadow." Investors usually want to see a clear path to that $6M mark—likely through the recent funding or a future reverse stock split—before they commit long-term. >4. Upcoming Technical & Clinical Catalysts >From a trading perspective, keep an eye on these specific windows: >Mid-2026: Topline data from the first cohort of the ATR-04 Phase 1/2 trial (cancer-related skin rash). >H2 2026: Topline data for ATR-12 (Netherton syndrome). >Technical Levels: The stock recently bounced hard off its 52-week low of $0.10, reclaiming levels near $0.28. If it holds above its recent support of $0.18–$0.19, it suggests the market has "priced in" the dilution for now.

AphexPin

SMA, ATR, trendline, etc..

Namnikoo

there's a great guy on X called Saty (you may have seen him before), he has a free indicator called Saty ATR levels, which basically calculates the expected range (ATR = Average True Range) based on the selected previous trading period's range (Day, Week, Month, Q, Y). I find it's one of the best tools for selling bear spreads at the top (+1 atr) or bottom (-1 atr) on a gap n go situation, as probabilities work in your favor (going beyond +/- 1 atr level is very low probabilities). His X account also posted some stats regarding the different (fib based intermediate) ATR levels. helps with picking strikes and deciding direction. But the highest probability wins come from spreads at 1 atr.

cfadeveloper

Supertrend has become my main indicator. I use it to confirm the trend (ATR-based) and then look to buy dips while it stays bullish, and only flip the plan when it reverses. It’s been most useful to me in clear trending environments and more prone to chop in sideways markets. Because I didn’t find many tools/brokers that supported it well, I ended up building my own practice tool to train on it, then coded a custom indicator in my broker’s platform to use it day to day. Curious if anyone here uses Supertrend (or has a better alternative) and what settings/timeframes you like.

dagroup

Great job! You've received some excellent advice thus far. Here is my suggestion; Find only one or two and get to know them well. This will keep you from over trading and not freezing. These should have lots of traders involved, decent daily ATR, and enough OI in every contract with no more than $1 between contract levels. This allows you to get in or out quickly. After you've found these, observe them for at least 30 days on multiple time frames so you can spot the nuances and more importantly when they change (not price reversal). hope this helps.

Smort_poop

You were shilling ATR before you edited your comment

CatchAfilM

Except IONQ which could be worse, or not, but might be a volatile stock with big ATR move. Don't get your head worried by owning Google and Amazon. These two value companies have to grow, and by 2027 they both will break their new all time high. If you are able to, you might exit your IONQ position by the end of year to harvest tax loss if needed.

SeaEnvironmental756

Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand options, and also doesn’t understand futures.  Get ready for surprise margin rate increases and stop slippage.  With the ATR where it’s at, you better have a BIG bankroll and nice edge to mess with futures in this environment. 

UndergroundHQ6

Idk gang maybe your calls wouldn’t have expired worthless if you didnt choose a strike outside of the ATR14

dagroup

Good thinking as you get to know it better. Mar options were reported high, but earnings isn't until Apr. Something afoot? Looked at May ITM calls for a possible debit spread, but it's not even 1:2 The ATR is down to $1.15. So how do you plan on trading this? day trades are SPY, swing is MAGS.

LuckyPlaze

Posts like this are ridiculous. It’s already bounced back and today is well within ATR.

Joe_From-Kokomo

It's Sunday. Set up some reasonable Stop Losses, so you don't lose all your portfolio. There is actually a formula using something called ATR, but, in reality, you can just use a calculator and pick 5% 7%, 10% or 12%, whatever sacrifice you can tolerate. Be aware that Stop Losses can trigger on the open, and at a lower price than the one you pick. Still, no one knows what Monday will bring. I am long USO and HAL myself. But, I have a diversified account. It is possible most oil stocks will go up, ironically, as we will all have to pay more. Who knows.

skarfbeaulonee

Today is about the flattest I've ever seen ATR on the open. That stands for average true range and it's a measure of volatiity. In other words, from the open ATR was telling us today could be an email.

memmolemmo

It is a highly regarded SPX credit spread strategy using 0dte options volume data and Average True Range (ATR).

Backtester4Ever

Regarding your question about better frameworks than moving averages, I've found that using a combination of different types of indicators can be beneficial. For example, you could use a trend-following indicator (like moving averages) in conjunction with a momentum indicator (like RSI or MACD) and a volatility indicator (like Bollinger Bands or ATR). This way, you're not relying solely on one type of signal. In my experience, WealthLab has been a pretty solid tool for backtesting these kinds of strategies. It allows you to design and backtest a strategy with a variety of indicators and conditions, which might help you refine your entry logic. Just remember, the goal isn't to catch every move, but to catch the moves that offer a good risk/reward ratio.

Kickrussiaout

Unless I missed it, you did not mention how you decide on the stock you’re going to trade. The only thing I would add is instead of selling when your up, you could periodically roll your position for a profit. That way you’re minimizing risk and not missing out on potential gains. I buy in the money options around 70-80 delta. Then roll them around the 2ATR line. Usually on the second roll I have all my investment back and still holding the position with zero risk. Good job though. 95% of traders loose 95% of there money in there first year. So you did good. lol.

charlie-todd

Semi-Conservative Scanner Delta: 10–15 POP: 70–80% DTE: 25–40 IV Rank: > 20 IV Percentile: > 30 Spread: < 5% Volume: > 1M Open Interest: > 300 ATR%: 2–4% ROC: 0.5–1% No Earnings: ±10 days Aggressive Scanner Delta: 12–20 POP: 65–75% DTE: 5-35 IV Rank: > 30 IV Percentile: > 40 Spread: < 8% Volume: > 500k Open Interest: > 200 ATR%: > 3% ROC: > 1% No Earnings: ±7 days

SeaworthinessRight26

After 100k I would never suggest anyone doing options. Or if not even 100k from 1k I would use laddered buy strategy using ATR of any stock, market history is the witness any stock that had declined (tanked) always surged as well, so when it’s going down, don’t buy at once, always do a laddered buy, like if it’s at 100 and the ATR is 2, put a limit as per your exposure and buy at 98, 96, 94, 92 and if the price is above your average cost it will definitely be, you sell at whatever pc you want to, but tldr don’t do options unless you are a cousin of Nancy pelosi or a good friend with Bill Ack.

Tight_Edge_5065

I totally get the anxiety. Between the "Double Top" talk and the French authorities raiding X's offices (which definitely adds to the "Elon Risk" premium), it’s easy to feel bearish. However, if you look at the medium-to-long-term quantitative data, the picture is more about consolidation than a guaranteed "steep decline." I’ve been tracking some analysis from WhaleQuant, and their latest technical breakdown (as of Feb 4, 2026) offers a more nuanced view: Volatility Compression: TSLA isn't necessarily "dying"; it's in a "Squeeze" phase. The price is currently about 1.9 ATR below the adaptive KAMA baseline ($439). In quant terms, this usually means energy is building up for an asymmetric move once the compression resolves. Trend Score: Their system gives it a 40/100, which means the trend is currently "Indeterminate." While the long-term trend remains bullish, the short-term lacks confirmation. The $400 Level: You're right that it's hovering around $400. WhaleQuant notes that recent price action shows limited conviction and low participation, meaning neither the bulls nor the bears have taken control of the narrative yet. My take: The news about France and X is noise that affects sentiment, but the "Double Top" only confirms if we see a high-volume break below structural support. Right now, the data suggests we are in a "Pre-Expansion" phase. It’s a waiting game to see which way the volatility breaks. Would love to hear if anyone else is watching the ATR or KAMA levels on this.