DAL

crova

I bought puts on AAL and DAL.

LowImprovement4220

So from my very limit knowledge I say calls on XOM,CVX and OXY cuz u know high oil price = higher profit for oil companies and puts on DAL,AAL,UAL and LUV cuz u know high oil prices = big loss on airlines cuz u know they need fuel to fly

Pleasant_Arugula7571

The Hormuz angle is the one that matters most going into Monday and isn't getting enough attention yet. Oil majors and top trading houses have already quietly suspended crude shipments through the Strait. Four trading sources told Reuters. No press release -- they just stopped scheduling voyages. That's the signal, not the headlines. The mechanism: Hormuz doesn't need to be physically blocked. Ships stop moving when war-risk underwriters step away. Lloyd's syndicates pulling coverage makes voyages uneconomical regardless of what the water looks like. We saw this exact dynamic in the Red Sea for 4 months in 2024 -- no ships were sunk but freight rerouted around Africa anyway because insurance disappeared. For Monday specifically: \*\*Energy longs:\*\* XLE +4-8% base case, OXY/DVN +6-12% on higher operational leverage. These open gap up and hold if AIS transit data stays suppressed. \*\*Avoid chasing airlines short:\*\* DAL/UAL will already be down 4-8% at open on jet fuel math. Position is crowded by 9:31am. The relative value trade (long XLE / short XLY) is cleaner. \*\*VIX:\*\* +20-40% on the binary outcome uncertainty. Consider 60-90 day call spreads for convexity rather than spot VIX. \*\*The key data to watch -- not headlines:\*\* AIS tanker transit counts through Hormuz (baseline \~20-22 laden tankers/day) and war-risk insurance quotes. If transits normalize within 3-5 days, oil gives back half the spike. If they stay suppressed into week 2, revise up everything. Running full scenario models with probability breakdowns at [geopulselabs.com](http://geopulselabs.com) for anyone who wants the full causal chain and sector impacts.

stockist420

Great work on the flight data! I track SEC filings pretty obsessively so let me fill in some of the blanks on what's already public: The Jan flights are explained: \- Jan 22 DAL→BFI — Same day Vistra filed an 8-K for a $2.25B senior secured notes offering ($1B at 4.70% due 2031 + $1.25B at 5.35% due 2036). Proceeds explicitly earmarked for the Cogentrix Energy acquisition. That's what they were doing in Seattle. \- Jan 28 + Feb 2 DAL→SJC (San Jose) — Vistra filed a Reg FD 8-K in January disclosing 20-year PPAs with Meta for 2,609 MW of carbon-free nuclear power from their PJM plants (Perry, Davis-Besse, Beaver Valley). Expected 8-10% incremental free cash flow accretion. San Jose trips were almost certainly Meta finalizing terms. \- Dec 31 8-K — Separately, they closed the acquisition of Q-Generation LLC (Hamilton Holdings II). Another deal entirely. What's NOT explained yet: The Feb 9 and Feb 12 flights to BFI (Seattle) and the continued IAD (Dulles) trips. Meta deal is already signed. Cogentrix is already funded. So who are they meeting in Seattle and DC in February? BFI = Amazon/Microsoft territory. IAD = AWS/Equinix/Google data center alley. At 3.5 strategic flights/week with earnings on Feb 26, the pattern matches what you're seeing. The Jan deals are confirmed in filings. The Feb activity is the one to watch. For anyone wanting to verify — all of this is in their 8-K filings on the SEC website. The Meta PPA disclosure is under Item 7.01 (Reg FD), and the Cogentrix financing is under Item 1.01.

Accidental-Genius

Yes. I have a prompt. I feed it to Gemeni & ChatGPT. If there are picks they agree on, I buy a small stake. So far up 20 ish percent in 4 months in that little side portfolio. Their Picks (4 months ago) were FMX DAL HON WELL DHR HIMS HIMS was the only real turd burger.

bdh2067

DAL dropped. UAL popped. A week later, they’re close to where they were pre-earnings. So, yeah, playing for inside move but it might be whipped for a day

BLVCKYOTA

That’s a wash with the cost of the plane ticket. Calls on $DAL.

creemeeseason

UAL and DAL basically earning all the profits for airlines right now. They have the best premium products and cards.

Happy-Champion1661

what strike NFLX? UAL feels good to sell puts on, even if it goes similar to DAL

PaperHandsTheDip

Well - they did. Kinda. DAL fell, and IV went down, and together it means the puts held their value. If selling CSPs you'd have washed. IF DAL went up - printed. If it tanked HARD - you basically buffered the loss as compared to if you were in straight shares

No-Improvement3164

It’s interesting how DAL puts held their value today.

StocksStormTrooper

JPM BK DAL all ER beat … economy is strong… couple that with QE… boom …. Bullish

throwawaayy011

Yea JPM, BK, DAL, CPI, plus bonds auction all can move the market collectively or independently

throwawaayy011

CPI, JPM, BK, DAL, bonds auction, credit card rate 10% cap

StocksStormTrooper

DAL ER beat yet getting beaten up

Happy-Champion1661

DAL crashing

Happy-Champion1661

DAL is cooked

thefrozenone2

$DAL earnings lotto

KroKart100

$DAL

zxc123zxc123

Great way to ensure you keep your money and sanity. I have sister. She's married with a kid so she spends her money on diapers. p.s. OP is right about the K-shaped economy, but a better choice for that play is AXP, LVMUY, DAL, AAPL, TPR, or BLK. Most of those have ran up massively already. One quick google search shows that Aritzia is Canadian which immediately means it's a meme and OP is just shilling his own book.

Pereise1

Man DAL might be the only strangle I've ever bought where the IV went *down*n near close. Wasn't gonna play their earnings but my measly 72c/68p strangle was down 20% by close so I guess I'm playing earnings.

Stocks_N_Bondage

Calls: BK DAL Puts: JPM

PaperHandsTheDip

Anyone buying DAL?

richtopia

Cheap fuel? Also DAL is relatively domestic: I think travel demand has been solid. Not OP and just trying to decide if DAL is worth throwing money at myself.

Slightlybadpicks

Buying DAL calls for earnings. The flights have been full. No way the play fails, right?…..right?

Late_Ocelot7619

Bought DAL $68 call for tomorrow's earning, let's see how it goes

AlarmedAnywhere4996

What will DAL do?

Hopeful_Invite_8275

DAL/TSM gonna moon

SpecialMission6181

DAL is such a good airliner, only that industry sucks hard, an 100% there is like 1000% in the degen sector of tech and others mirages companies.

Virtual-Moose5921

3 more hours of this shit 👎 United First is a trash product, calls on AAL and DAL. Puts on domestic first in general compared to international 🇺🇸 https://preview.redd.it/aj95pju11o9g1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7a1d1302a5e246e250a1614a84d3e14c48be004

HumidMind

Well done on the RKLB. Having rode PLTR and MSTR from 2022 misery to 1000% + gains, it is HARD to sell a huge winner and time it right. Being near retirement age, I am sure glad I pivoted those kinds of gains out of MSTR and PLTR and into GLDM, NOC, BNS and DAL early this year. I kept some PLTR as of course there is more upside there.

WhitePriest1

!banbet $DAL -10% 3w

i_simp_f

> DAL Cowboys Moneyline -125 FUCK that shit, I SHIT on cowboys Cowboys are Charger FOOD

GroceryShoppingSucks

I’m did it 2 DAL $70 Puts 1/16/25 expiration

IllustriousLetter898

Keeping two nuts is your goal? Rebound in tech with Goog, AWS, and possibly META because they seem to have some volume at 666.47 but Google Glass announcements and AI Apple Sauce Execs, I'll watch. Maybe rotation into UAL, AGLT, DAL, CCL, IWM. Although, maybe Trump opening the NVDIA H200 chips to China frees recipicle tarrifs. Other chips could buy, but the PLA dug in their heels.

GroceryShoppingSucks

!banbet $DAL -15% 2w

GroceryShoppingSucks

!banbet $DAL -15% 2 weeks

baconography

Takin' DAL against the points....DET is all banged up, and I don't trust them without ARST.

Competitive_Peace_48

I also do something similar to do this (although I don't do it on margin) First, doing anything on margin you need to be extremely careful. Right now, your covered call premium will cover margin costs plus some but if there is a severe drop in the stock price your CC premium will also be drastically cut. Second, covered calls are great but you can miss out on some big gains. The way I combat this is but rolling up and out but this still comes at a cost. Sometimes the stock moves fast enough that you can't buy enough time. In this scenario where I can no longer make a good return on rolling I just let them get assigned and go to cash secured puts. (This is currently happening to me on DAL). You also need to be on top of it. If the stock starts to rally I am pretty quick to move my CC up and out (typically 1 week). I do the math though to see if I am comfortable with the return (I like 2-4%/month target).

shardybo

Not taking my own advice. Last week I added $DAL to my list and thought it looked interesting. Thought I'd buy calls on it at some point soon, didn't end up doing it and ofc it pumped 15% over the last week

zxc123zxc123

>Right, but Berkshire's best deals aren't available on the open market. >When everyone 's hair was on fire in 2008, Warren was making deals with GE and Goldman to "help them out" by buying perpetual preferred shares with a 10% coupon along with warrants to buy common stock at fire sale prices that extended out for years. Very true. I also feel many of Berkshire's best deals were done during the GFC with special in person deals like the ones they got with Goldman Sachs or GE. Some of their China investments were either unavailable or difficult for US investors to mirror. For those cases I don't follow because I can't. It's important to not 1:1 mirror things but to know yourself and the one you're copying/inversing. I bought DAL at the lows after Buffett sold his shares. I suspect DAL or the US government might have wanted BRK to foot some investment prior to getting bailouts or handouts. Or maybe BRK themselves feared for that and dump it first because they didn't like airlines anyways due to them being very cyclically sensitive, needing bailouts every downturn, and better being trading vehicles. I had no issues for a shorter term trade 1-5 or 5-10 years rather than "forever", no one will ask me to foot over money first for bailouts, and I don't mind trading nor volatility. I bought BAC after Buffett bought his shares on the open market for a higher price. BRK did a swap into BAC after dumping WFC. A good move IMO since WFC sullied it's name with the fake/fraud accounts. I also didn't like WFC so I didn't buy Buffett's sell. I personally use BAC but never bought into it but Buffett's buy gave me added confidence to go into it quickly because I assumed BRK had done the homework. So I aimed to buy at or under their $24-25 purchase price. >When you buy Berkshire, you're buying a tiny seat at the table for the kind of deals only they can pull off. That's not something I'll try to dispute. I think it's a sound belief. I just choose not to myself.

zxc123zxc123

You can decide if it's highly regard or exceptionally brilliant yourself. But my reason for buying DAL during the pandemic lows: 1. Buffett/BRK already did the vetting and homework on DAL prior to the pandemic collapse. 2. DAL was the best of the airlines and least likely to be bankrupted. If other died or got consolidated then DAL will get their share or take them over. 3. Most of the companies and airlines were asking for bailouts and based on the GFC most of the biggest ones got bailouts. I had no reason to believe otherwise. 4. This leaves WHY Buffett/BRK sold. They sold WFC and moved to BAC because of the WFC scandal probably made them lose trust in WFC. But why did they also sell DAL? I assumed probably 3 main reasons: Reason A being that airlines aren't great long term investments but more like trading vehicles which BRK might not want in their portfolio. Reason B being that the airlines have proven to dump and be very high VOL every time there is a recession which doesn't play well to BRK's portfolio building style. Reason C being that either the government, DAL, or both expected BRK to hand out cash in a double down either as a precursor to getting PPP/EIDL/bailouts or as a requirement for it. Or BRK feared that might be coming so they dumped out. 5. I wondered if it was right FOR ME to buy DAL at that time since I'm young, could hold for a long time, have a higher risk tolerance, don't mind selling out, and won't be asked to fork over a few hundred million before Pelosi & Trump give DAL a big bag of money. Answer was **YES** so I bailed out Buffett's DAL stocks from his paper hands. TL;DR ["Oh no airplanes house is empty but maybe soon airplanes house will be full"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYc6QmaGnYc)

elite_haxor1337

> buying DAL when he sold was this intentionally regarded or was this accidental regarded?

zxc123zxc123

Because Berkshire is a giant conglomerate who's investment timeline and goals are not a 1:1 match with mine? I understand why I like AXP/DAL/BAC because I understand why they bought/sold those. I don't like See's candy, understand Buffett's railroad obsession (must be a boomer thing since Biden loves the choochoos too), nor want to hold $381,000,000.00 in cash while inflation eats away at it. I prefer vanilla and leveraged index funds to get my broad market diversification.

zxc123zxc123

Gotta say. I've always felt Buffett was my teacher and someone to learn from. I also developed portfolio habit of mirroring Buffett/BRK during the pandemic: buying DAL when he sold, buying BAC after they did, DCAing into AXP, etcetc. Because I just assume they'll do the homework for me and keep doing that homework. Now I see them buying 4B into Alphabet which I've owned since the days before the GOOG/GOOGL split. Am I the sensei now? Is this a vote of approval in my investment skills? Dunno. Just knows it feels fucking good.

MaleficentCoconut594

I do, I don’t just buy random stuff. I started with airlines during the COVID slump, and it’s paid off really well. My worst performer is Southwest (LUV) at -6.81% overall, best is Delta (DAL) at 163.12% and I’m averaging 53.58% return overall with just airlines. My best overall performer is GE Aviation (GE) with an 889.59% return, but I only have 2 shares (really wish I dumped into it more 😂). Aviation is my passion and I follow that industry the most even before investing, so that’s where I initially focused (including defense contractors etc). I’ve been diversifying more over the past 6mo, and I do research and look at industry trends. All small stuff, I don’t hold a lot so I made money but on a small deposit. Overall I’m at a 15.90% return over the entire portfolio lifetime. I’m also a holder, not a day trader, and I haven’t sold a stock yet.

ehcanadianmoose

Dems poised to torpedo CR. With no end in sight, busiest travel season fast approaching, and FAA reductions increasing 6%, 8%, 10% through Nov. 14, bearish on airlines: AAL, DAL, UAL, LUV, ALK, JBLU. ATM puts Jan. 16 anyone?

KittyLover-7

JUST IN: The three biggest US airlines to cancel hundreds of flights due to shutdown. American Airlines, $AAL, United Airlines, $UAL, and Delta, $DAL, to scrap almost 600 trips collectively

ehcanadianmoose

Puts on AAL, DAL, UAL, ALK, LUV, JBLU. 1,800 flight cancellations a day. The next two weeks are going to be spicy ... [https://www.wsj.com/us-news/faa-flight-cancellations-delays-government-shutdown-54ab5be3?mod=hp\_lead\_pos7](https://www.wsj.com/us-news/faa-flight-cancellations-delays-government-shutdown-54ab5be3?mod=hp_lead_pos7)

ehcanadianmoose

Thoughts on airline puts with 10% flow reductions (AAL. DAL. UAL. LUV. JBLU) dated Nov. 28/Jan. 16? Polymarket & r/ATC polls have odds of govt reopening week of Thanksgiving (24th) with Thanksgiving Day as hard stop.

MadaInChina

Calls on DAL

zxc123zxc123

Everybody predicts it (talk), but Burry actually put his money behind one and won. That said, I don't think watching Burry is productive as he truly is smarter than most, moves too fast to mirror/inverse, trades in a way with capital that retail can't mimic, and is too off smart AND spectrum for most to hope to comprehend the mechations under his skull. I find mirroring or inversing Berkshire is a more profitable endeavor. I mirror them for things I like with hopes that they have done the homework for me: BAC/AXP. Meanwhile I've bought what they sold at times because they are too big to hold or can't hold. Like when they sold DAL during the pandemic lows (likely because there was a conflict with DAL receiving government handouts while Buffett had so much cash laying around).

Dry_Plant

Short UAL n DAL

Fantastic_Pirate3948

Damn, buying 1DTE DAL puts was not the play

Fantastic_Pirate3948

If DAL could crash another 4% that would be great

Muted-Celery7948

what does everybody think about puts on $DAL a bunch of insiders have been dropping millions of shares and it tends to cycle down after hitting $60ish in the past

Puzzleheaded-Monk688

backed by $DAL and luxury services have been killing it. Chart also looks ready for an upturn.

Every_Recover_1766

I’m sick and tired of DAL dragging down this portfolio

Every_Recover_1766

It was my first day doing this Up 1.5% around 10 am est, down 3% now with some early buys on DAL that dropped nearly 6%, but hedging on XME and GDX saved me. Holding my DAL around 59.6, hoping it’ll hit 60 again by Tuesday or Wednesday Crazy thoughts??

Every_Recover_1766

XME is volatile now but DAL is primed for the buy. Crazy how it all just tanked across the board

Every_Recover_1766

Buy DAL trading around 60 now but UBS valued it at 75 at 7:38 AM pst (2 minutes before this comment)

Independent_Name_601

157 days later. I will kindly disagree with you. RCL targets the family fun entertainment with late night options. CCL targets a younger crowd with a more party atmosphere. With that said, because of their demographic targets, CCL tends to offer shorter cruise options and for now smaller ships to cater to this younger crowd and also target mostly US based destinations. RCL is building a global based business with many cruises throughout the world. They have a mix of shorter and medium term cruises to cater to a wider audience. Their state rooms and ship sizes offer a massive range of clientele. Also note that RCL is also offering in the next several years exclusive destination/Resorts such as private resorts and new stops only accessible by RCL and brand family cruises. It will be years before CCL or NCL catch up. With that said, CCL does handle the higher volume of people, but in my opinion RCL offers better quality. MSC and NCL are also upping their game but tend to have smaller ships and more diverse port access. In comparing to other industries I’d liken RCL to Apple whereas CCL is Samsung. RCL is like Coke and CCL is Pepsi. RCL is DAL and CCL is like AAL. While each line has its loyal cruisers I think far and away RCL is better than CCL. This is evidenced today in their respective stock prices, so investors have the same sentiment. New large ships from RCL through at least 2036 plus new private destinations for RCL are the difference for me.

Ok_Eye1101

Missed the PATH to heaven and got stuck on a mechanical bird called DAL.

sdanielsmith

Last quarter, AAL got some blowby boost the day DAL reported. Guess not this time. Sorry man. Are you holding through earnings?

StaFa_San

Open the casino!!!!! 😂 can’t wait to sell my $DAL call options

koopacut

DAL calls

Deep_INDA_Money

DAL ✈️

fast412

DAL released positive results all around. The question is will they be good enough to stick.

Top_Cranberry_3254

DAL on earnings, PWR, and PLUG are looking good. 

Zealousideal-Land-40

Calls on DAL & TLRY

getthere_always

DAL earning cleared for takeoff

Ok_Point6467

DAL is real guys up around 5 to 7 %

Short-Dependent7676

Loaded up DAL calls 💪🏼

Stocks_N_Bondage

You think calls on DAL? Hmmm...

Short-Dependent7676

DAL earnings tomorrow before market open 💪🏼

BaronOfIce

DAL calls. Been on about 15 Delta flights this year. Every single seat is full and they offer basically no discounts to upgrade to a different class of seat lately.

BrighterFuture92

My next earnings play is DAL 10/17 70c got for $16

KingN0

UAL’s call option IV has ramped up significantly. Good luck to the bulls, but the IV is 112%, while the company actually reporting (DAL) is 122%. This means that the options market is pricing in a near identical move for UAL in reaction to DAL. I sold for a 50% gain. Could have gotten as much as 150%. But I will feel amazing tomorrow if the reaction to good earnings is muted and call buyers lose it all.

Cute-Cartographer467

I got united airlines calls hoping for good DAL report tmrw

snowdogdb

I’m doing neutral condor on DAL. In the money as long as it is within +/- 9% What do you think? I expect it will go up… but hopefully not 9% either way

KingN0

I was playing UAL for a symphony play and I got out 15 mins ago for a 50% gain. IV ramped like crazy. The market is basically expecting the same reaction from them as DAL. Sentiment is negative and even if they come out with good numbers it might be muted. 50% gains over something not guaranteed is fine by me.

Stocks_N_Bondage

Entered this morning - AZZ put - BYRN put - DAL put - HELE put - PEP put Subject to adjustment later

WhatsNewPu55ycat314

Going to exit DAL before earnings due to flight controller shortage... sentiment may be declining

ismebbb

Just going to short vol on DAL this week. That'll be all

dash_trash4255

More DAL puts

CabinetSpider21

DAL calls

fast412

I agree to be skeptical about puts on DAL. Everyone is just considering consumer spending and vacation traveling and failing to consider corporate travel. Also the discount airlines are getting killed right now which means more people are turning to the majors. I’m leaning toward calls.

bdh2067

Every plane I’m on is packed. Every airport is full. I think DAL may surprise 🤷‍♂️

Wayne_Kurr_1

Instead of 30 days how about by end of next week? my degen yolo would be Shares of PLUG? Or, ATM Strangle DAL for nearest expiry after ER

actuallyrealperson

DAL and PEP ought to have some interesting moves, maybe TLRY will come back down to earth, HELE is probably going go have crap earnings and tank again, but it looks like IV's too high on that one to make a profit.

Hopeful_Invite_8275

DAL/APLD to the moon

shasta747

Only DAL and TLRY are worth playing?

Separate_Salary_2197

need someone to take DAL to the shed

Networka1

Well… DAL over sold. Hopefully 🤣

Networka1

https://preview.redd.it/z8ntp28qv5sf1.jpeg?width=560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f576e489204efc9b3a44d36d0f6e6b479a314d3f Not today Mr. Red, tomorrow I’ll see you in DAL and you can try again 😅

Networka1

DAL doing nice ups and downs.

Networka1

Where are the day traders going to be at? AAL? DAL? AMD? F?

fullmetaljar

Expecting DAL to attempt another drop below 57 and then bounce back up to 58 on Monday. Or maybe just false hope, but it would be weird if it suddenly broke past a bottom slope. Probably hit 60 by mid month if no bad news.

dash_trash4255

DAL poots. War = higher oil prices and lower demand

Rich-Contribution-84

I haven’t bought any in years but, again, it’s just stuff that I had been buying on repeat in my taxable account on and off from 2002-2014 ~. WMT, BRK-B, AMZN, DAL, AXON, GS, KO, CRM, TRI, GOOG, C, CAT.