DAX

Most-Sun4067

And DAX is 0.3% away from new ATH. Hilarious.

SZJX

DAX might open at ATH tomorrow 

n1ck90z

DAX is basically at ATH

CheapAttempt2431

The regard strength of DAX is truly something to behold, +20% in a month

tropicalia84

DAX already back to all time highs - red to green today market doesn’t care about the boy who called tariffs anymore.

Ahugel71

Been like this since the inauguration really… ytd the DAX is up 17%, while SPY is down 4%

Tripleawge

Great analysis. Institutional/Private side Global Liquidity has been going down since February and DAX (German stocks) has been in a recession since January, meaning the warnings have been around for months now sooo when u add that negative gdp print it’s pretty much obvious that The Recession is already here. Good luck convincing retail tho lol

olearygreen

It makes sense for non-us markets to go up simply because of the outflows from the US market. The DAX has underperformed US markets for years with a few exceptions like SAP that trade more globally.

noplanman_srslynone

The DAX just hot their all time high. Japan's market is going up as well. The assumption is everything will come back to the US if the dollar is cheap, though these may not be the best investments globally anymore. The US market with devalued currency does increase but with each iteration it's decreasing because other countries are investing more in themselves. 5% this, 10% next goes elsewhere the crazier and less stable a country is the less investing goes on there. Don't assume it MUST come here because it has in the past, diversify.

Edixx77

Bad move nasdaq broke 20k and now is going to attempt to touch Ath unless trump says something or some bad news could make it go back bearish. I got destroyed shorting DAX and that fucker just followed nasdaq because its very bullish

Longjumping_Ad_9436

You are, but I mean does anyone open positions on the indices? I.e at the moment I am long DAX short S&P500 - my broker offers options but I'm not a fan of the spreads involved

Key_Poet_7459

Don’t try to be 100% right in all your stocks, that’s the mistake I see on most of my clients. Focus on risk management, and develop a strategy to hedge your exposure. I would also invite you to look at other countries Small/ mid caps- Tech stocks. Eg. Some companies in the DAX 30 , DAX 40 Are outperforming the Nasdaq 100 by double digit. Also, something worth to look is to balance your portfolio with some safe heaven assets, like GOLD, SILVER or CHF as the dollar $dxy maintains a downtrend. Now if you want to purely own tech stocks, just look at historical valuations and CAGR of the MAG7, yes, there is still some growth to make, however, it is not going to be as exponential as it was from the COVID crisis. Good luck with your portfolio! *This is not financial advice, it’s purely my opinion on your post.

DietFoods

DAX fell 21%

Maesthro_ger

Look at the DAX and Germany. Ath during negative GDP. Keep in mind though, companies have international markets. When your main sales market is in a recession, stock market bleed as well.

DietFoods

DAX and FTSE with the V recovery and close to all time highes. Do we follow? 

pmoO0

Hi. As I said in another comment where we chatted, I was long ndx. Expecting 20300. However, I did not expect it to blow past 20k easily. I closed around 19900 already. I’m positioning myself short Germany DAX, expiration September. I already have a small short position ndx September to December. I think I wrote that somewhere as well. I will add to it as the time value will decrease. I hold a meta call that I will just hang on to. So basically: DAX short, NDX short small position, Meta long. I’m not fishing for absolute tops and bottoms. I exit early most of the time. Have a great weekend. Oh, I had an Apple call that did not work, tanking after earnings. Stop loss 😊

SZJX

DAX is very close to ATH already jfc

tryingtohitchall

I mean if the DAX doesnt open down on monday i am homeless lmfao

Poptart_Salad

You'd think an almost 11% move in 10 days would warrant some profit taking but no obviously that's nothing. Clearly we should just return directly to the top like the DAX has done. So glad I sold my calls yesterday.

tryingtohitchall

DAX is now 0.5% off all time high. Not just 0.5% off pre lib day no ATH. Dumbass market. It should be 10% lower

Melodic_Fee5400

Because algos are now programmed UP. Nasdaq already over 20k, 30k EOY. DAX already at new ATH 

tryingtohitchall

DAX just refuses to go down. It inches higher and higher every single day. Why is it up 15% YTD? -1.5% from ATH and 28% up in a year? Surely it rebounded way too fast? Atleast spy is still 9% off ath.

Longjumping-Bonus723

DAX +1,7%, China +1,7% and everyone here 🐻?!? Why

Kobe_Fan

DAX ~2.5% from ATH. EU looking strong

Dismal_Locksmith1871

The trick is not to over leverage and be patient. The DAX/S&P trade is what I am following.

Jerikolol

Gigachad DAX. RHM. SAP. Deutsche Qualitat. 

ace_alive

DAX recovered in 2013, Euro Stoxx 50 recovered in friggin 2021. Greece stock market is still far from recovery. CAC 40 recovered in 2020. btw, only this year has Euro Stoxx 50 recovered from the highs of the Dotcom crash. Luckily until the subprime crisis I only invested in interest products, as you got pretty nice yields back then. Never bothered with stocks. The interest yields however have never recovered. I laugh when young people call 4% or 5% high interest rates nowadays. Now I find myself in interest products again mostly and only 3% of my assets are in USD. The stocks I have are high dividend European stocks. I'll be alright. I never trusted 'growth stocks' further than I can spit.

tryingtohitchall

DAX is red! Finally! Its been green, following every spy pump and dismissing every spy dump. Give me a -3% so i can breathe again

bubbawears

Can you buy options in DAX?

bubbawears

DAX will be the new SPY

SpittingT

Euro zone GDP grew 0.4% in the first quarter, according to a preliminary reading, ahead of the 0.2% expected by economists. Germany, Europe's largest economy, rose 0.2% over the same period. Calls on DAX was free money but some retarded here still blaming europoors

Ahugel71

The DAX is having a nice day though

corndog_messiah

There are no car companies in the top 10 of the DAX broski. They are already beat down. Volkswagen is number 12 and they are pumping because revenue beat estimates. They are trading lower than 5 p/e already.

Correct-Analysis-798

As much as I love being on here for a couple hours a day checking sentiment, it'd be nice to break even and just invest everything in SPY, DAX, and maybe some high dividend stocks 

Ahugel71

Which ones? DAX Index was only up 0.7%

InitialPsychology731

DAX casually pushing ATHs lmao

diefy7321

Imagine investing in DAX. LOL

Dorkasteri

WHITE HOUSE: THERE IS NO BETTER TIME TO INVEST IN AMERICA Sure doesn’t seem like it if you have to repeat that every single day. DAX = Sydney Sweeney, SPY = Karoline Leavitt before plastic surgery.

95Daphne

The Dow would be what the DAX mimics the closest, but that correlation has gone poof, and it went poof several months ago. I really don't think y'all are gonna get your easy snapback here. Europe might see new all-time highs this year, but the most bullish case for the US will likely be recover next year and in fact, Europe actually led with the first new records back in 2023.

DietFoods

DAX just 4.5% from all time highs. Their index most closely resembles US index. 

Most-Sun4067

Once DAX gets going, it’s unstoppable. Friend of mine lost 100k trying to short it Jan-Feb. You really wonder what’s driving it, apart from bears being squeezed out.

Jerikolol

DAX nearing ATH. Today: "Germany: Police chief warns of 'cocaine surge'". Guess the Frankfurt financebros are working overtime this last weeks?

Financial_Branch2079

DAX pumping hard LMAO

RandomC6

Be careful, I understand your points and I also see long term structural damage, however take into account we do not have clarity yet, whether on tariffs nor on economic data. For now the market is pricing in tariff deals, and recent tech earnings looked healthy so far. Also, do not forget that you are betting against the 500 largest US companies, not against the overall economy. The environment might be harder to navigate through, bus US companies have shown to do great in the long run. Look at Germany and the german DAX for example: Economic activity was awful in the last years, we had multile quarters with negative GDP growth, however companies such as SAP did great and the DAX grinded higher and higher.

Tribaljunk-19

The difference beetween, for say, CAC40 and DAX is that CAC40 doesn't integrate devidends, and DAX does

DoublePatouain

Very good question! You have several clues about Europe. The first is the Eurostoxx 50, which includes the 50 largest European market capitalizations. You also have the broader version with the 600 largest European capitalizations. It’s a matter of approach. Then there are indices tied to national markets. For me, the top performers are the CAC40 and the DAX (the MDAX is excellent right now, but it’s not as long-term as the DAX; it’s more about the economic context). The Italian FTSE MIB is doing pretty well at the moment. Then there’s the FTSE 100, the British one. Personally, I don’t invest in European ETFs. If I had to choose one, it would be an ETF that tracks the performance of the Eurostoxx 50 or the DAX.

HeadGlass6121

Many European indices are just slightly above dotcom bubble levels or even below. I don't understand why you would ever invest in European stocks instead of s&p 500 or Nasdaq. Only German stock index DAX has outperformed inflation in the last 25 years.

HotTruth999

I guess your definition of long term is different to mine. You cherry picked a relatively tiny market which is not comparable to the S&P. I could just as easily pick sectors of the S&P that are equal to the Dax in market cap and yet still beat it in the shorterm 1, 3 and 5 year periods but not playing that game. Also the DAX beat the SPY over the last 5 years because of last 3 months outperformance. Short term anything can happen but long term Europe is simply not competitive.

Dependent-Mess-7510

Stoxx 600 ibkr also has DAX 40 in USD for some odd reason

Majestic_Sympathy162

I don't blame you for thinking American markets might not stay on top, but once you go past 5y, even factoring currency and dividends, DAX hasn't kept up with spy or qqq. That said maybe it will from now on and I'm decently diversified.

corndog_messiah

DAX

izCS

DAX acting like a virgin in front of a huge black dick. 

Zeppu

This pump's got zero fundamentals behind it, just technical logic, market vibes and some MM fuckery in low volume. Good thing I don’t trade that fundamental crap, I’d be wrecked by now. Look at the DAX last year, total clown rally while Germany was in the gutter. Fundamentals are a long-term compass, but short-term it's straight up cat and mouse.

HealthyFly1561

15% of the DAX sales volume is in Germany 

HealthyFly1561

Bro DAX is >80% US profits. It has nearly nothing to son with Germany. All the big german companies make their money everywhere but not in Germany  that's why the DAX is booming. Look the other german indicies which are based on profits in Germany

racks_long

ok so why is DAX up +10% YTD, not even including the Euro gaining 12% YTD 

Conscious-Method5174

\+144% on leveraged DAX longs \-81% on leveraged TSLA shorts ;p God giveth, and God taketh away.

n1ck90z

DAX is only 7% away from ATH

FML712

Need to make 300 bucks today and DAX going sideways, great 

kuite

This post is very bullish on EU. Now compare DAX to SP500 ytd xd

WinPrize9339

‘The stock market’ isn’t even really a thing, presuming they’re talking about the S&P 500. FTSE 100 up 0.19% YTD, Euro Stoxx 50 is up 0.36%, DAX is up 5.9% but S&P 500 is down 12.48%, Nasdaq is down 18.03% and Dow Jones is 10.05%. The FTSE all world is down 6.6% YTD, hardly the end of the world.

Blue_8913

I think that for people living in the US, it makes more sense to bet on your economy recovering. To me, putting money away in US stocks to have a great retirement if the economy recovers makes more sense than making the shitty life I would have if the US collapses a little better with pessimistic investments. It’s like betting in the stock market that nuclear war will happen, if you’re wrong you lost everything. If you’re right, the stock market doesn’t exist anymore anyways. If I was outside the US I would likely invest more in European funds like a DAX ETF, and that’s probably why the dollar is depreciating.

Quej

Sorry, my first sentence was not a great description. I paid for the house with cash from the box spreads (I financed the house not the mortgage). Say the house was 100k. I would take two box spreads on DAX to get 98k euros (you can use 1 SPX for 96k USD or whatever) and buy the house with that cash. You need to have the margin in the account to withdraw of course. Then in a year, at expiry, 100k gets taken out of my account, effectively borrowing at about 2% interest. But every year, I have to open more box spreads. So we pay intl the account every month so that we can open the spreads without going negative and every year we build the amount in the account. When there is 50k in the account we can buy one fewer box spread and repeat until the next one is paid off. I put about half the cash we pay in into a market index, and so far it's been helpful, but we'll see about this year. We will save a huge amount of money and there is no separate downpayment. I won't recommend anything to anyone, but it hasn't gone pear shaped yet.

hsfinance

You don't sell your house everyday, but - you invest in market often enough (every paycheck) - you can hedge - you can move next door (google to apple) - you can move far away (HSI vs DAX vs SPX) - you can even buy all the houses (ETFs) And all this choice comes with ability to take more granular choices without actually paying the 2-6% commission to make such a change happen.

n0pH0

not sure if you are american or not, but the "recession" you are refferring to is nothing but their long game which is to have very responsible fiscal policies which are doing as they were designed - being 'stable'. so whenever they attempt some tectonic shifts like "lets bring down our coal industry" - the economy moves down but just a lil bit. now imagine doing big swings with this "unmovable object" of an economy - you do them and then once they are done - you dont have to have strict fiscal policies anymore, and your economy didn't suffer, too. Much like what merica is trying, but it's not as stable Germany took a hit because of the war among other things and didn't blink That's not a recession, check the DAX for the last few years. It would've been 30% down to match the requirements for 'a recession' Since sep 2022 the DAX has doubled. Check it out :D

Economy-Succotash-59

It's not a blip. The Exectuive branch and Congress is run by dumb peckerwoods. USA will become a white protestant version of Pakistan, ruled by minority, no regulation, etc. I would def park some cash in DAX ETF, Gold and Euro as a hedge.

No-Painter4337

Take a look at EWP EPOL DAX YTD and the inflows…. ;-)

Siks10

Don't panic one way or another but consider adding some of your savings to FEZ, FXI, DAX, FEZ, ILF. That way you will get exposed to other currencies and markets that might grow better in the near future

KalLindley

Europe for me. I just can’t trust a Russian style extortion economy so I’ve reduced by holdings in USA companies. I am overweight in Gold, euro defense stocks, and the DAX.

Dry_Locksmith2252

german stock market index (DAX) is a good place. with the decline of US democracy, Western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are good places for investments based on rule of law/corruption.

Melodic_Fee5400

DAX 30.000 EOY 

Ok-Interaction-8917

Gold stocks and mining have been great lately besides DAX and BBVA. GGAL. Look at Europe and Latin America.

GameOfThrownaws

....huh? US markets are *massively* underperforming international since this shit started. Since Trump pulled out the gun and started shooting us all in the foot in February, US indexes are down somewhere around 15%. FTSE is down by single digits. DAX is down about 10%. HSI is down about 10%. TSX is down by single digits. I'll never understand why people just decide to make shit up and comment it. Like do you think nobody else knows this just because you don't? Nobody's going to notice? Or you just don't think at all?

izCS

Looks like they finally disconnected DAX from the US meme indices. Good!

hekatonkhairez

It’s difficult because for a long time many of the best companies were listing in the NYSE and NASDAQ. One of the problems of centralization is that when the center gives out there’s nothing to really compensate for it. That being said, each of the smaller exchanges have some decent listings. AstraZeneca is on the LSE, Siemens is on the DAX, Shopify is on the TSX etc.

lostbanbet

I said I sold it all on the rumor of delisting weeks ago. The rumor resurfaced again last week and sent FXI on a 1s 1.5% red dildo. I don’t think Europe is a real place so DAX and FTSE aren’t an option.

Mobile-Mess-2840

As a Canadian, I was looking forward to investing in some solid US exchange based companies. Wonder if Canada, and other countries affected by the reneging of DTAA norms, would decouple and transfer Capital back to their shores. I won't mind a MSFT or Goog listing in the TSX or Ftse or DAX

izCS

Made 10 € on DAX today. Very happy. Thats like 25 $. 

twitterfluechtling

The thing is, I usually argue that the people with deep pockets have some experience in keeping themselves rich. I'm using that argument heavily when discussing climate change, that insurance companies internal calculation showing increased risks and their refusal to cater to certain areas now is a very serious indication that climate change is real, because if it wasn't, they wouldn't leave that money on the table. Now I'm conflicted: I really don't see how this could end well for the US, and seeing Trumps other policies (deportations / El Salvador / Putin-Appeasement / Free speech / ...) I really want Trump to fail (my lazy side just wants to get old alley USA from the last 4 years back, my realistic side wants the new right-wing extremist USA to not have too much power). But experience shows that big money usually ends up on top, and when they keep investing in US stocks, is it possible my negative expectations are based on wishful thinking and I'm missing something vital? And wouldn't they factor in an educated guess on next quarters result already in their investment? Also, when I compare the performance of the EURO STOXX 50, ticks are proportional to Euro, in S&P500 the ticks are proportional to USD. So, when S&P 500 went down 9.1% over the past 3 month while EURO STOXX 50 lost 2.1%, and the dollar lost 8% (roughly, taking Euro as reference) over the past 3 months, should I factor that in and conclude the S&P 500 lost 16.4% in value compared to the 2.1% EURO STOXX 50 lost? (I'm also not sure if EURO STOXX 50 is an adequate comparison to S&P 500. Dow Jones lose only 6.2 points, factoring in the USD decline it would be 13.7%. DAX grew by 2.1% in the same time frame. I'm using those indices because they are listed as "most important indices" in my go-to finance news home-page.)

naven

Where are you seeing that Germany has surged 12% this year? The DAX 40 which seems to be Germany’s most popular index is only up 4.8% YTD and dumped 16% from its high of the year and is currently still down about 11%

Jerikolol

did anything special happen today? or its just cuz DAX is mooing, so its dragging up all the german defense sector and its supporting companies up too? Like nothing new has been announced for EU armament no? so uh, why? i dont mind tho RHM new ATH? :D

Diamondhands4dagainz

Wow the DAX is ripping. Why tf is it so green 

BarbellPadawan

Anyone trade DAX futures?

ManulifyGamesFlo

DAX is an index and not an exchange. Easiest way to buy EU bonds is via ETFs

Trawzor

I just moved all my investments to Nikkei, DAX, SMI, Nikkei and KOSPI. Please China just go nuclear and fuck up the bonds

InIce1234

A lot of escalation between the US and China is already priced in, no question. What the market still seems to be in process of pricing in are the additional tariffs on the EU. Especially cars are getting hit really hard. Just look at the DAX. Cars are the backbone of the German economy, with so many industries (suppliers) tied to them. It just keeps getting sold off even though US futures are turning green. And yeah, they say they're now military vehicle manufacturers to cash in on the defense stimulus a bit - just shows how desperate they are because they're screwed big time. Puts on DAX Puts on legacy carmakers

JGWol

I see what you’re saying unlike the guy below you. My thought is this: US equities will always be, in our lifespans, worth buying. This includes spy which *also has international companies*, and many of those companies make much of their revenue from international exposure. Asking to cut out American investment completely from your portfolio is ridiculous. If America is suffering the world is suffering. You’re better off buying gold or hoarding cash. Instead of buying FTSE or the DAX I’d rather just wait for a stupidly bearish price target to buy American companies and hope that we don’t see a third term for Trump in 2028, or even better in 2026 we get progress on shoving him and his kin away from influence as much as possible. Because if that happens the absolute returns would be astounding. I’m up 12% on the year from trades while the market has been down as much as 20%. Im very happy to keep staying in cash.

Skrtvert

DAX crushing

Whitestar55

What are you talking DAX is -5% 💀

kwijibokwijibo

>Markets are blood red this morning in EU. DAX is up 6%. CAC40 up 5% Elsewhere in Europe, FTSE up 4% What are you on about?

albatros_cgn

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Diamondhands4dagainz

Where are you seeing that? I’ve got the DAX up 8% at 21.2K rn

izCS

DAX down 2% but it feels like a baby intraday swing so far. Stupid times to trade.

whodey84

DAX a lot of points 

Diamondhands4dagainz

Holy fk, the DAX has opened +8%

Ahugel71

Europe isn’t opening flat though, DAX futes up 9%

Secapaz

Keep your eyes on the YINN ticker. Anytime it trends upward, the China markets are usually cooking. When it trends down, they are usually getting cooked. Also, I've had my eyes on the FEZ, VGK and DAX lately. When they are cooking, it typically means they are essentially either manipulating something on their end or they simply are ignoring what we are doing here in the US(and gaining organically).

RoshSH

DAX is up 88% in the last 5 years even after this tariff circus

PartyWithKnives11

You're too focused on Stock markets alone. By far the minority of european companies are listed at Stock exchanges. I'm German and we have a lot of "Mittelstand " which are companies with a few hundred people that are world leaders in their specialized fields. It's what you call hidden champions. If you only observe the DAX you see a lot of these older bigger companies like BASF, Mercedes Benz, Bayer, BMW and so on but this is not what drives German economy. It's only a small part of it and the overwhelming amount of Germany's companies are not listed

Diamondhands4dagainz

Lol europoor indices starting to pump, look at DAX and the scam RHM