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Bought a bunch of IEO and USO on Friday because I knew these chuckleheads would fnck up the oil market.
AIPAC and Israel loaded up on IEO last Friday
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Just got out of XLE and IEO so moon
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What are you basing this off of? Just look at the charts on $XOM or $SHEL, or some common oil and gas ETFs like IEO or PXE? Was the negative correlation idea just a baseless claim because I'm confused about your source on that, would be interesting to hear.
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Check out IEO options. IV is under 20%. Good oil and gas play. Low volume right now so have to be careful. Josh Brown pumping on CNBC
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Dump the SPHD. It's not remotely a peer of the others. As others have said VOO and VTI are very similar. No harm in having both but for your case probably just having VTI is better (tho if I had to choose for me I'd take VOO). PHO of course is a longterm no-brainer winner, but of course no one knows if the win wil be bigger than VTI going forward. VDE... there are lots of energy ETFs and while VDE is above average it has lagged a lot of the other choices like IEO and PXE. Don't just choose a Vanguard ETF if you use them. Take a look at all the competing energy ETFs. That have very significant differences.
> Energy ETFs Don't like any now but PXE and IEO seem to be sucking least. > Opinions on solar companies They look like bargains now but we still have at least another year of high interest rates which just kill these companies, so wait at least until next summer.
Yea. I’ve owned XLP and IEO since like mid 2021. Like whatever the day oil futures went negative is when I bought in. My portfolio is like 20% oil still but I’ve reduced the position over time. Own a few different broad based US index funds. Was more heavily weighted to large caps but after COVID out performance, pared that back into more value plays. Had a long Uranium, silver and gold plays that did not work out but they were small allocations and exited those early last year for small loss. Since late 2021 I’ve been in a couple short Treasury ETFs in 7-10s and 20-30s. I’d like to do more interesting stuff but, as an investment professional, am restricted from trading single name stocks. Portfolio is up ~45% net of fees since COVID started. Anyone for a game of nine ball? The gentleman’s game.
So I personally like IEO over USO. Do you happen to be knowledgeable on IEO vs USO? I’m gonna start selling puts on IEO. I prefer IEO because it has a $1.13 quarterly dividend, with my TDA rating it average risk, high return, and 3 stars. TDA rates USO above average risk, low return, and 1 star. My dumbass got lucky and I bought back in June/July for and average of 75. For the majority of the time I held it, I was up 15-40%, and I never even caught that stock below 85-90, though due to my own lack of attention, it did dip to 77 in September. It held strong during the October dip, and held a price of 95-100 throughout the month, a 26-33% from my buy-in average. So what would make me choose USO over IEO?
I've had XLE and IEZ (and before that IEO and PXE), plus a little bit of 3x DIG/DUG/GUSH/DRIP. XLE was up 65% and IEZ up 66% for 2022, but XLE is -4% for the past month and IEZ up just 1%. I'm probably getting out of both this week. The chances of oil prices going up significantly are puny now, while a big dip is more likely. Most likely a lot of pointless sideways volatility. No harm putting a little into it now to try and catch the last bull gasps, but the time for significant dirty energy profits was nine months ago.
TMV: +149% ytd (but not so good now) PFIX: +86% ytd PXE/IEO: +67/+61% ytd IEZ: +26% past month https://etfdb.com/compare/ Best performing ETFs for week, month, 13 weeks, ytd, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years
Seems like IEO barely had red days
Natural gas is dropping like a stone, WTI crude is glued to $85 and the comment about Europe is out of date. PXE and IEO are the best ETFs for conventional energy, up 17% for six months, which includes +15% for the past month) so good but not earth shattering. Probably a better bet than average this winter, but longterm the prospects could vary wildly depending on unforeseeable world events.
XLE, IEO, PSCE, etc. all will pay off well.
Josh Brown endorsed IEO earlier today... farmer Jim probly sittin' there thinkin' it was IEIEO.
You want oil, go for ETFs holding assets of shares to actual energy companies. Try PXE or IEO. Both are dramatically outperforming OILK year to date.
I was joking but I'm buying Natural gas. IEO for now.
The two best performing ETFs for the past five years, by far, are TAN +250% (solar) and QCLN +206% (clean energy). Next best is ROM at 168%, the 2x version of XLK. With the recent US law, solar and clean energy should even more outperform the market than they have in the past. But... even they aren't currently beating the market. Aside from PFIX ("Simplify Interest Rate Hedge"... meant to go up if interest rates go up) conventional energy ETFs have done the best this year. But... even they aren't currently beating the market. If you want to get into both, I'd reccomend against individual stocks like XOM and instead get ETFs, specifically TAN/QCLN and PXE/IEO. They outperform both their peers and the overall market.
IEO, PXE and FCG are the three best performing ETFs for the past year that hold shares of actual oil and natural gas companies. (UNL has done better, but it is 100% natural gas futures rather than shares of companies.) All three have a different mix of companies so getting all three covers almost everything. FCG is the only ETF that specifically targets companies with a natural gas focus. I'm sure there are plenty of specific company plays to be made too, but these ETFs are the best if you just want to think "I'm sure Europe is screwed this winter and energy companies are going to profit from that".
[here you go](https://www.etf.com/IEO#overview)
TAN, QCLN for longterm energy. PXE, IEO for short term energy. XSD and SOXX for semiconductors, but I'd wait on those till the market was clearly moving up. On the other hand, I'd gladly bet AMD, ON, KLAC, SNPS and CDNS as a group will outperform the semiconductor average over the next year and few years.
Conventional energy is clearly a non-bad idea to be invested in for the next six months. (After that, we'll see.) I wouldn't make it the biggest part of your portfolio though since it is clearly subject to geo-political factors more than corporate ones. I like energy ETFs rather than picking among the zillions of companies. A combo of PXE, IEO, FCG (the only one that tries to focus on natural gas) looks good to me. None of these include XOM, which has not been outperforming them, or CVX, which has been underperforming them. (XLE is over 40% XOM/CVX.)
Thanks for the new info on the BP fire team. Glad I already had plans to buy some IEO tomorrow. 
XLE for major. PSCE for smaller producers. USO to play the futures price of oil. IEO is also good. For dividends look at the oil royalty trusts like SJT and MVO. LPG is on sale now with great divvy.
Yeah I could be a equal weighted SP etf or the XLE, IEO, healthcare and aerospace etf but I would rather get like the top 5 holdings of those etfs instead. I have M1 so I have mini versions of those etfs with like the top 5 holdings. I also want to have that yield some of the LP I have in my portfolio.
Looking at the graph of IEO, for example, I see two things: 1. The same general post-2020 recovery that boosted every stock. 2. Huge growth in 2022 that is widely believed due to exogenous factors (i.e. that war in the news). Of course the recovery seems obvious in hindsight ... but, again, that's hindsight. Turning that into a falsifiable prediction about the future is much harder.
> Everybody knew oil would revert back to mean, but that doesn't help in any way to make money on that knowledge I just told you how. Entire ETFs like IEO (not talking about oil futures, I'm talking about oil producers) cratered. IEO, the entire fund, is up 80% TTM. Every component in the top ten is up several hundred percent from their 2020 lows. You literally could have blindfolded yourself and picked up some darts, and as long as you didn't stab yourself, you would have picked up a 3-10x bagger.
> tldr is usoi holds uso which tracks oil futures and sells cc against them IMHO there are better ways to play oil, just IMHO. IEO is doing well if you want to go an ETF route.
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(i) Oil and gas shares. If you have IEO (an iShares Oil and Gas ETF), you're at the 52-week high (although not the ATH). Like a lot of Canadian retail investors I have Enbridge, and it's 1% of its all-time high. (ii) Canadian equities are hanging on a bit better than others, FWIW. That's partly because they're overweight in energy stocks. The Canadian index isn't even in correction yet. (iii) If you have a diversified portfolio, things aren't too bad. If you don't, you may have got your ass kicked recently. I'm down 10.7% from my ATH. Big whoop. I'll rebalance when the equities are off about 20%.
I’ll buy oil on and dips. IEO and PSCE. Keep adding RYLD on dips.
Is there an ETF you'd recommend for commodity producers? I heard someone say IEO?
You can look at commodities producers, there are ETFs like IEO that are baskets of companies than baskets of futures.
EIA is seeing peak oil demand beyond 2050 https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/ieo/pdf/IEO2021\_ChartLibrary\_Consumption.pdf
I would not buy USO or anything based on oil as a commodity, but rather something like IEO that invests in producers and explorers.
For US shale you can look at components of IEO.
For ETFs which actually buy futures, there's always a loss of value every time they roll those contracts to a different month. IMHO if you want to invest in commodities, a better method would be to buy ETFs which buy stocks of commodities producers. For example, IEO is a great way to invest in US shale producers.
>How much more gains do you need to call it a year? I expect this to last several years. I don't have exit points, only re-evaluation points. I set an exit point only once, CMG at PE over 30. I sold it at $125. I am never doing that again. When OXY hit $40 a couple weeks ago, I asked myself if it had room to run, and comparing it to MRO and IEO, the answer was very much yes, that OXY's leverage had not played out yet in its stock price. Now, it has, but we're looking at a massive geopolitical event that will cause oil to skyrocket. Oil has gone up already what, $25 since the beginning of the war? The ***beginning*** of the war. >Debating why I shouldn't put everything back in SPY and call it a year. This is another consideration. My original thesis before this war was inflation and S&P500 CAPE at 40, both of which are extremely bearish for this particular stock market, being fueled by the Fed as it is. So, I don't see SPY being reasonable until its CAPE goes down to a more reasonable level...at 24-25, CAPE is still 1 SD above mean, which is still fairly expensive and highly unusual. Right now CAPE at 35 means the stock market's "yield" (i.e. reverse PE) is around 3%. This is clearly unsustainable and over a long enough period will destroy the average long term rate of return of 8% of the stock market and therefore the entire thesis behind investing in stocks...so likely CAPE will fall, and by a lot. Inflation is great for commodities. Here's an article about inflation during the 70s and a commodities based thesis back then. https://www.streetwisereports.com/article/2020/04/27/gold-and-oil-remembering-the-70s.html The 70s is very instructive...stagflation, geopolitics leading to sky high oil.
lol, hello again. =) No, not yet. I will use IEO for my argument as I mainly see oil via a macro lens. For company-specific analysis IMHO the main factor is leverage, which OXY has tons and thus it's being reflected only now via massive rises because the debate around its viability has finally been settled. For IEO, 2017-2020 were fairly bad years, since oil hovered around $60 which is not great for shale producers. Right now, IEO is around the range where it was during this time and has only recently surpassed it. If the prospects for oil itself were lukewarm, then yes, I'd say current prices would be a good exit point, but if anything, prospects for oil prices over the past 3 weeks have increased dramatically. Oil rises when things are going to shit. I remember oil prices during the Iraq war, it seemed the more incompetent GWB proved himself to be, the more oil prices rose. Putin sent him a get well card after a surgery he got. IMHO whatever is going on in eastern Europe right now is going to dwarf in tragedy and utter catastrophe what occurred in Iraq, and this is bullish for oil, especially given Russia's central position as a major supplier. I would not be surprised if we surpassed the last record of $140 before Russia is done with what it is doing, which means IEO will likely pass $100 during this period. My plan is to re-evaluate at that point. I re-leveraged shortly before we had this discussion. IIRC this was the thread where we had the debate about oil's popularity. As you have probably noticed recently, for something like oil, the higher it goes, the more unpopular it gets.
XLE, IEO, ADM If bombs really do fall, the energy market will go beserk. If so, oil and gas stocks are our friends, plus perhaps agriculture. Everything else goes to hell.
It’s not one glacier that sunk the titanic, it’s mismanagement. Forget interest rates, what the hell do you think is going to happen if the energy market goes haywire from Putin being Putin? This administration hates fossil fuels but our trucks still run on it so inflation will get hella worse as energy prices soar. Invest in copper and IEO, energy prices will continue to worsen inflation regardless of what J pow does. We don’t only need Volkner right now we need Reagan and instead we got some asshole who couldn’t even pull out correctly. Good luck to my friends on the titanic, I’m going to invest in coal mines, materials and fossil fuels so I can charge you double when you try to rebuild your mismanaged ship of shit.
If one doesn't think this level of inflation is transitory, that's a prediction on the future, so what are you invested in to take advantage of that? Cars and fuel are responsible for half the reported inflation. Do you think those are going up 40% in the next year too? What would you invest in to take advantage of that. Some oil stocks have had great gains in the past year, but some have not. Maybe something like USO or IEO instead? For cars, both car companies and used car retailers seem to be down. How would you take advantage of another year of price increases for cars? Surely there's a limit to price increases for these things. Even gas is somewhat elastic. So, anyone have a serious prediction on what other industry will see large price increases that will continue to give us high inflation numbers?
Any spark could start a large scale war in Ukraine - just the threat of war is causing military stocks- especially LMT to spike. Also good for oil- going deeper into XLE, IEO also don’t forget N Korea & the reliably crazy Middle East. Always good for a black swan event
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So interesting. I threw the towel of trying to flip when even replacing the windows in my current house became a nightmare with prices skyrocketed both product and labor cost wise. Lol. I figured it’s too much to handle when I also have a hectic job. I tend to agree with you that keeping a good liquidity level is probably sensible these days. I just don’t see a local market that can safely justify the price to go in right now. And I’m strangely with you on the LV thing... it’s not talked a lot here on Reddit. I have a little IEO but my conscience screams so I stopped buying. Lol. ESG is by all means a good parameter. Which one or a few do you like so far, making the move you’d endorse?
Not even close to the to IEO has beat it by 50% so fr off the top of my head.
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IEO. Just buy it then get back to your shift at wendys. Hodl to year end.
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MRO & RIG are heavy right now, but to be fair I've been hurt by half of that industry at this point (back to one of my first ever investments in IEO - US O&G Exploration & Drilling ETF less than 3 months before the 2014...). But I keep coming back, because I know it and ended up loving it.
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It amazing how Buy low Sell high still works. I got IEO at $23 as I knew no way oil would remain that low as Trump would be out of office eventually and the left will stop fracking and make us dependent again on Middle East. Sad, but at least I made over 100%!
Throw IEO in for more direct drilling (good kind) exposure than XLE, fyi
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IEO for oil (or XLE). WOOD apparently covers lumber, though I haven't personally played there (I'm basically a sheik when it comes to 🐪🛢️ - love that stuff).
I was in a low-volume ETF called IEO that I also exited from today -- they were up ~3.5% when I started trimming. I also have a couple April and May XOM calls that are near-worthless now that I'll just hold. That's it for me and oil rn though.
BKR, BP, COP, CVT, XOM - take your pick, or just go XLE or IEO VLO (though wait on that one of bad news from OPEC - they feast on lower oil prices, but drop with the rest of the industry 1st)
IEO is the gas ticker in that pic Also half my portolio is F
I got into IEO a couple weeks ago for the dividend.
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