KO

greenpride32

>Maybe the issue is we need to change the formula for valuing stocks? There is no such formula - if you believe it exists you are chasing a unicorn. Stocks that consistently grow top and bottom line over time tend to have their share prices go up over time. Need some examples - look at MSFT AMZN MA which have track records of 10-15+ years. Some stocks trade more on speculation. They don't have anything close to 10 years track record. Play these at your own risk. A common "value" mesaure has been PE ratio. This is an outdated metric that became popular during old industry growth years. This was when most companies specialized in a single vertical. As time went up, new industry became much more efficient and scalable to the point large tech players spam multiple verticals and dominate the economy. Old industry is more focused on cash flow and efficiency games, but not growth. Take an old industry, no growth stock such as KO. It yields close to 3% dividend at PE of 28. Historically, 28 is considered a high PE for a non-growth stock. 15 years ago, KO PE ratio bounced from 8-15. Now slice KO PE in half to 14, which is still historically high for them. What happends to dividend yield? It becames an insane 6%. Who wouldn't park money into a KO at 6% yield? Of course many would, and thus the stock price gets bid up. So much then for PE ratio right?

Diligent_Fox_9072

Again, If there's one company to 'KO' (don't get any funny ideas Coke) it's Pepsi. A-hole company for years. Worst of the worst for inexcusable price gouging. Mondelez is distant 2nd, but there. (Check out their brand portfolios, all worst offenders)

honeybadger9951

Lol I just noticed that MCD and KO has higher PE than GOOG. Do people really expect better growth from fucking fast food chain?

owowhatsthis123

A good example would probably be KO (coke-cola) they pretty much aren’t going anywhere. They do 2.88% annual which isn’t the best but it’s something. I’m not a financial advisor though there’s people who are way better at this than me.

awkwaman

Ok guys hear me out... KO calls

ChineseTuna420420

TSLA fell of my technical buy list this week. MCD, KO, JNJ… as well as the European stock ETF (IEUR) and China ETF (KWEB) all performing poorly this week. Also noted the short US treasury ETF hit a technical sell today indicating rates will drop (could indicate the market is anticipating recessionary pressure). GOOGL fell off my buy list as well as RSP (equal weight S&P etf) and DIA (Dow industrials ETF). This was the second week in a row where my approved buy list has decreased in number. Several things JUST made the cut… the general picture I’m seeing is some weakness setting into the market. It was not a good week. More pain this next week… no short term expiration calls… cash or puts are the play. Good luck!

ongoldenwaves

KO is range bound. Stays solidly in the 60-70 range. It's like owning a CD. I wouldn't buy.

jxmckie

Screw index. Depending on age, buy a blue chip dividend stock (IBM,KO,CVX...etc) and reinvest dividends for 10-15 years. Compound interest and this guy is a millionaire forever.

spellbadgrammargood

society peaked in the 90s. 9/11, 2008 Financial Crisis, and COVID was the 1-2-3 KO for Millennials and Gen Z

Various_Couple_764

Well dividends do not always equate returns , a stock could pay dividends but keep loosing value False, ARCC has been paying a dividned of 9% for 20 years. And it is worth more today than when the company started paying a dividend. Also KO has been paying a dividend for 100 years and it is worth more today than it has ever been. And additionally all the index funds you have in your acount pay a dividned.

Various_Couple_764

dividends are not equivalent to a forced sale. If you sell a stock to get income it is gone. If you receive the dividends you still have the stock. and will keep receiving the dividned until the fund goes out of business. KO is an example of a company that has been paying a dividned for about 100 years. so most retires prefer investments like dividned stocks fund. While the young prefer investments that will get the highest return.

Slow-Information-847

yall, TACO is bad for option traders. Theta gangs KO all volatility players, put or call. no exception

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

Any-Morning4303

Thanks for the great feed back. I’m also trying to spread risk throughout sectors. So far doing GOOGL DDOG and last Thursday closed off all my KO positions. Have 7 stocks I’m keeping an eye on, but before I jump in I’m trying to come up with mechanical and defined rules to follow. Any rules you’d like to advise me on following?

fre-ddo

Yeah had my eye on this one but doesnt feel right, went for MCD and KO instead.

United-Hearing-8286

Anyone ever swing KO because I try to sell low buy high and the dip looks promising

BlueSharpieLA

LOL fuck off bitch. Is that supposed to convince me? Why are you all of a sudden spouting data from 2013 about ALCOHOL deaths? I said $MCD $KO as differentiated from “war stocks.” Dumb fuck.

ryallen23

If their shares of everything were new, sure. But they're decades old. Their KO shares are $3. So they're gonna be generating 100% dividend yield in a couple years. There's no replicating their returns because there's no replicating that. Their dividend income on BAC this year is over a billion.

banditcleaner2

Ha. You’d be right if normal, non-war stocks weren’t going up from human suffering and death already. Go check the health of america and then check KO, for instance. and, if you choose not to play this game, then you’re gonna likely be broke forever. I’d rather be rich and unhealthy/miserable than broke and unhealthy/miserable…

traderbusto

lol @ people still fking around with that boomer assed UNH shit. Just go buy 100 shares of KO and count your dividends

Traditional-Collar70

Calls on KO, about to collect bottle caps as new currency.

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

greenpride32

>Lots of people say we’re in a bubble and that the market is unreasonably high. Corporate profits and dividend distributions keep increasing year after year. That's the real reason why the market goes up over time. So every "bubble" of the past was left behind with real growth. PE ratios are oudated metrics. Go and pick the first ultra stable dividend paying stock that comes to mind, halve their PE ratio, and tell me what happens to the dividend yield. I'll go first - KO. Yield is 2.80% and PE is 28. Cut this "no growth" company down to a 14 PE is all of a sudden the yield is 5.60%. Do you think at that yield, the stock will not get bought up to push the yield lower? Biggest difference I see in today's markets versus 20-25 years ago is the concentration at the top. Take your MSFT or NVDA and individually, they are equal weight to the bottom 150-175 of the SP500 combined. If your investment is "SP500" - does really matter how the profits are distributed within or that they simply exist and grow? Any arguments centered around a number of companies being flat or even declining is rendered useless when they only represent a slither of your investment.

Mother-Chipmunk2778

Haha I was out tonight so now I’m just catching up on all the news but yeah I’m KO soon

sex_veganism_atheism

Buckley by KO

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

PulIthEld

The global bottled water market is projected to grow from $292.6 billion in 2025 to $509 billion by 2030, driven by rising demand for clean water, health-conscious consumers, and sustainability trends. Major players like Nestlé, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, and Danone dominate, but Primo Water (PRMW) offers a focused investment opportunity with strong growth potential. This DD explores why water stocks are worth considering, with a focus on Primo Water as a high-potential pick, alongside safer options like Coca-Cola and water-focused ETFs. **Why Invest in Bottled Water?** The bottled water market is a stable, growing sector with strong fundamentals: Market Growth: The global bottled water market is expected to grow at a 6.4% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) from 2025 to 2030, reaching $509 billion. Still water (74% of the market) and sparkling water (7.9% CAGR) are both expanding, driven by health trends and demand in emerging markets. Consumer Trends: Consumers are shifting from sugary drinks to bottled water, with U.S. per capita consumption rising from 31.6 gallons in 2013 to 46.4 gallons in 2023. Global Demand: Over 2.2 billion people lack access to safe drinking water, boosting demand in Asia-Pacific (44.5% market share) and developing regions. Climate and Urbanization: Water scarcity and urban growth are increasing reliance on bottled water, especially in regions with unreliable tap water. **Major Players in the Market** The bottled water market is competitive, with four major companies holding significant shares and a large "others" category including private labels and regional players. Here’s the breakdown: Nestlé (NSRGY): Estimated 20–25% global market share. Brands include Nestlé Pure Life, Perrier, and San Pellegrino. North America accounts for ~56% of its water sales. Nestlé’s planning to spin off its water business in 2025, which could impact its exposure but create a new investment opportunity. Dividend yield: ~3%. Coca-Cola (KO): Estimated 15–20% share, led by Dasani (12% of still water), Smartwater, and Topo Chico. A defensive stock with a 2.86% dividend yield and a $305 billion market cap, backed by Berkshire Hathaway’s $27.6 billion stake. PepsiCo (PEP): Estimated 10–15% share with Aquafina and LIFEWTR. Water is a smaller part of its portfolio (58% of revenue from snacks), but innovations like carbon capture bottling add upside. Dividend yield: ~3%. Danone (DANOY): Estimated 10–15% share, with premium brands like Evian and Volvic. Strong in Europe and focused on sustainable packaging. Dividend yield: ~3.5%. Others (~35%): Includes private labels (25–30% of the market), Nongfu Spring (China), Bisleri (India), and smaller players like Primo Water. **Investment Pick: Primo Water (PRMW)** For a targeted bet on the bottled water market, Primo Water (PRMW) stands out as a high-growth, pure-play option: Overview: Primo Water is a North American company focused on bottled water and dispensers, with $1.77 billion in 2023 revenue (5% growth) and 20% adjusted EBITDA margins. Why Invest: Unlike diversified giants like Coca-Cola or PepsiCo, Primo is 100% focused on water, making it a direct play on market growth. Its stock price is ~$27 (June 2025), up 50% year-to-date, with analyst targets of $30–$35 by end of 2026. Growth is driven by acquisitions, office reopenings, and demand for reusable water jugs. Catalysts: Rising health consciousness and corporate demand for water coolers are boosting sales. Primo’s focus on sustainability (e.g., reusable containers) aligns with consumer and regulatory trends. Risks: High debt from acquisitions could be a concern if interest rates remain elevated. Private labels (25% market share) are also a competitive threat, but Primo’s brand loyalty and B2B contracts provide stability. **Alternative Investment Options ** Large-Cap Stocks: Coca-Cola (KO) and PepsiCo (PEP) offer stability, dividends, and exposure to water alongside broader portfolios. Coca-Cola’s scale and Buffett’s backing make it a safer bet for conservative investors. Water ETFs: Invesco Water Resources ETF (PHO, 0.60% expense ratio) and First Trust Water ETF (FIW) provide diversified exposure to water-related companies, including purification and delivery. Both have outperformed the S&P 500 over the past decade. Utilities: American Water Works (AWK) is the largest U.S. water utility, with $944 million in 2023 net income and a 2.1% dividend yield. Its stock (~$130) has grown 500% since its 2008 IPO, offering low-risk exposure. Options: For higher risk, PRMW January 2026 $30 calls (~$2.50) offer leverage if the stock hits analyst targets. Coca-Cola or PepsiCo options are less volatile but still provide upside. **Macro Tailwinds for 2025** Population and Urbanization: The global population is nearing 8.5 billion, with 3–4 billion lacking reliable tap water. Urban growth and tourism (1.3 billion international arrivals in 2023) drive bottled water demand. Sustainability Trends: Companies are shifting to recycled PET and aluminum cans (7% CAGR), addressing environmental concerns and appealing to ESG investors. Economic Resilience: Bottled water is a consumer staple, maintaining demand during economic downturns. Stocks like KO and AWK are defensive plays in volatile markets. **Risks to Consider** Environmental Regulations: Bottled water companies face scrutiny for plastic pollution. Potential bans on single-use plastics could raise costs, though firms are adapting with sustainable packaging. Private Label Competition: Store brands hold 25–30% of the market, pressuring margins for branded players. Nestlé’s Spinoff: The potential sale of Nestlé’s water business (~$5.5 billion valuation) could disrupt its market position or create a new stock to watch. Interest Rates: Higher rates could impact debt-heavy companies like Primo Water or utilities like AWK. Conclusion The bottled water market offers a compelling investment opportunity due to its growth, driven by health trends, water scarcity, and sustainability efforts. Primo Water (PRMW) is a high-potential pick for those seeking focused exposure, while Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, and ETFs like PHO provide safer options. With the market set to grow significantly by 2030, now’s a good time to consider water-related investments. Disclaimer: no shit this is generated by AI

freelight0

So much sound advice in here. You can pick a stock with cheap options (like INTC or KO), be right around the direct and timing and flip that $50 up. Or you could be wrong and make it disappear.

BBQandBitcoin

https://www.reuters.com/article/business/chinese-researchers-charged-in-conspiracy-to-steal-us-rice-technology-idUSKBN1KO2QJ/

Foreign-Coconut3500

literally the chart of SPY tells you the markets never get KO'd

hv876

16 delta is 1SD move. On a volatile stock, this could be large moves. On a low volatility stock like KO, you won’t get room to maneuver. You’re going to have to evaluate what is the risk you wanting your shares getting called away, and that’s the point of max profit for you. And at some point if your shares don’t get called away but underlying keeps growing, you’ll need to reconsider the strategy, because you’ll have way too much capital gain.

OneDayAt4Time

My brother in Christ, park it all in a safe dividend like KO or XOM. 4% a year nets you $57,000. You can work part time for the rest of your life. You can explore new hobbies, spend more time with friends and family, you can do the things you’ve never had time to do. Or… You could put it all on red and let it ride

greenpride32

I bought KO in 2008-09 as a "sure thing" to recover the financial crisis. I'm heavily invested in tech and high growth. Over the next 5-8 years, I kept looking at my KO as a way to free up money for other investments. But each and every time, the performance and dividend kept me in. Even if wasn't keeping pace with big tech, it provided diversification. I've been very hapy with KO's performance too.

Single_Shoe2817

I’ve been very happy with KO’s performance

MikuEmpowered

To be fair, COKE is higher than KO when the later owns the brand is pretty telling. That being said, COKE is more volatile than KO due to it being so heavily impacted by tariffs (bottling company and all that). So it's arguably a better buy if a person is seeking fast gains/loss. And since the main product is providing bottle service to coke... The chance of it failing is non existent, because that would imply the fall of America and all the land whales.

paragonx29

Start buying ASTS- even if you're not in at a low ACB. 😁 I love KO as a steady-eddie.

VeryMercurial

LOL. I like both Merab and Sean - all i want to see is a good fight. Sean KO'ing Merab would be top 5 moments of the entire year though.

BurlyJohnBrown

KO also directly funded death squads to kill labor leaders in South America, so they directly killed people too.

vichyswazz

I like KO, which has indirectly and legally killed millions of americans spanning generations.

__proto__null

BRK.B and KO. Only individual stocks I hold long term. Everything else is SP500

curlnut3_14

My KO shares just paid me $1.87. I can smell retirement.

robertncm

KO cocacola is 300B marker cap. qubt is just 2B , x100 potential from here!

Beautiful_Ideal1740

CAT is not the same as KO and PM. CAT is highly cyclical. Don't forget that their revenue is still (slightly) lower than it was at the record level of 2013-14

Gunnerloco86

KO

Hanshautreinhart

Thanks for clarification. Still, if they fill the KO products in bottles this pretty much the same problem. But maybe they have other customers compensating.

Somnifor

COKE is a bottling company, not the brand (KO). They mostly sell in the southeastern and Midwestern US.

thelastsubject123

$KO sells licensing and syrup $COKE is bottler and distributor for $KO, buys syrup from $KO and sells the actual product

Efficient-Put7276

shoulda went with $KO

ongoldenwaves

I picked up some during the pandemic, but it doesn't move much. Fairly range bound between 60-70. I think people just like it because of Buffett. CAT and PM have been much better dividend stocks to own these years. PM is surprising me. You really had to stop listening to this sub which constantly recommended MO over PM though because MO had higher dividends. KO has moved up about 20% since the pandemic crash. PM and CAT have at least gone up 100% in the same time period.

superbilliam

Ummm a few I can think of currently: V, MSFT, GOOGL, BG, HON, CPB, JnJ, and KO.

ongoldenwaves

And Gates (who is much younger) has owned CAT stock since 2005 and has made close to 500% so far. He owns around 7,353,614 shares and collects about 40 million in dividends. KO and Buffett have been repeated so often in the press it seems to be all people know and they repeat it over and over when in actuality these guys own big chunks of dividend producing stocks.

TibbersGoneWild

KO

AustinO_0

Voo or equivalent. Individual stocks, either KO or WMT. But I’d stick to just VOO or equivalents.

Commercial_Rule_7823

Trump, time to KO Ketamine clown. Cancel DOGE, fire all DOGE minions, issue an executive order to cancel all things DOGE did. Make it so that musk wasted 130 days and imploded his companies for nothing. The ultimate burn.

pussyhatwearer69

It’s on indeed, steel mills do not hire through indeed lmao. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/steel-mill-salary-SRCH_KO0,10.htm Here is Glassdoor, they do not hire through Glassdoor either but this is a closer estimate

SctchWhsky

Calls on KO it is!

Matt2_ASC

Sneaky play, long term puts on KO. Its trading at 28 p/e which is well above PEP at 19. Sales aren't growing and inputs are getting more expensive.

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

RiPFrozone

COKE not KO, COKE is the bottling/distribution part of the business. Their 5 year avg FCF growth is 29.2% even assuming the next 5 years will be 13% fair value is around $170 a share or a 34% margin of safety. Definitely one to keep on the watchlist and do more research.

HVVHdotAGENCY

He’s not talking about KO. He’s talking about COKE

DekeJeffery

I'm buying ten shares to see what happens, but I'm more focused on $KO.

ShogunMyrnn

Yes it pays dividends. But the cheaper you buy it, the more you get and the more dividends you get. Historically, KO is quite expensive. We are in an extremely volatile time as well, I think the market will go down drastically soon. A good buying opportunity (15% from where it is now) will likely come sooner than later.

neothedreamer

The question is why those ones are relevant or disappeared. The ones I chose are very aggressive at innovation and acquisition. Many are like ETFs themselves. Most of them are heavy in bleeding edge on the AI innovation. MSFT - Owns Activision/Blizzard, Linkedin, plus major BU like Office, Windows, XBox, AI Offerings AAPL - iPhone, Apple TV, MacBooks, iPads, iPods, iCloud, Vision Pro, AI Offerings etc. The have created categories, their weak points are larger than Fortune 500 companies. NVDA - Owns AI and GPUs, CUDA is a big piece. The software side of their business is larger than most people realize. META - Threads, Whatsapp, Instagram, Meta Glasses, AI Offerings TSLA - Optimus, cars, Solar, FSD as a software offering, Battery Storage for consumer, business and Municipalities, AI Offerings. BRK.B - wholly owns - Geico, Dairy Queen, RC WIlley, Sees Candy among others with large positions in KO, BOA, AAPL etc. These ones aren't going any where. In fact these are the ones that will be gobbling up the ones that become irrelevant in the next 25 years.

ICE-FlGHT

I’m a more of a KO guy.

Hooked__On__Chronics

Don't put your words in my mouth. Valuation is valuation, and P/E is just one metric. Do *you* define valuation as P/E? And due to basically all retirement and brokerage accounts systemically dumping funds into equities, *of course* P/E will start to look unreasonable over time. As for addressing your straw man KO argument, I think you've already made up your mind.

greenpride32

If your defintion of valuation is PE, well PE is such an outdated metric. I'll give an example - ultra conservative consumer stock KO is currently yielding 2.85% dividend. It has very low growth yet it sports a PE of 28.66. Now imagine it had a more "reasonable" PE of 14.33, something you'd expect more for a no growth stock. Well what happens to yield then? It goes to 5.7% which is outsized and who wouldn't park there money here, especially since KO also has captial appreication over time (albeit slower). So basically KO stock has been bid up because of the dividend. You can argue valuation all you want - the only 2 numbers that matter are I can sell a share right now at $71.46 and I will collect about $2 in dividends for the share each year. Want to see growth? Go and read the 10Q's for MSFT NVDA AMZN and the like - the companies that are carrying the indices up are infact growing top and bottom lines year after year.

DoubleFamous5751

Boring pick for the week, but KO looks like it wants higher

marcopoloman

I own about 15 different stock, but I have been buying KO and WMT $300 of each, every month for the last 25 years. Reinvested dividends. Just pick a couple of decent blue chip stocks with good dividends and never touch them

backscratchaaaaa

if you lived a simple life, 3600 after taxes you could be putting hundreds a month in to safe relaxing index funds and retire on millions. instead you are taking your spare money and betting that fucking KO will go up more in 6 months than the last 6 years. next time just set the money on fire, its faster and at least you will get warm

Pete_The_Pilot

I love me some Q’s but id get some s and p 500 in there. I also dont know that bonds provide the margin of safety they once did, as shown during the recent bout of volatility. Im 100% equities but i own some defensive dividend growth type stuff to provide income and margin of safety. Think KO, XOM, SCHD for an etf. And id just use brokerage cash (i use fidelity’s SPAXX for my cash but mostly because i sell puts with it) or SGOV instead of CDs .

UncleBabyMonster

This is my first ever investment, so expect some very dumb moves, but this is precisely why I wanna share my portfolio, to learn and improve. VOO 45% NVDA 22% AMZN 17% KO 12% WMT 8%

Lazy-Gene-7284

I agree with you completely, make it 3 at least. Look at the top 25 list from even 25 years ago you’ll be shocked at how many aren’t relevant anymore. I’d say KO and McDonalds belong instead of Meta andTSLA

Mental_Internal539

Who knows, I can speculate but that isn't advice, all I will say is I buy KO, AAPL and LMT because I believe they will be around by the time I retire but that's just speculation.

austinvvs

Imo; COST WMT KO MSFT GOOGL AAPL JPM VISA And probably anything owned by Blackrock lol

babarock

I'd add KO

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

creemeeseason

I used to own it. Sold out because they're hitting a limit on their growth and running out of ways to deploy capital effectively. In my opinion at least it didn't deserve the valuation it got. That said, COKE has outperformed KO for awhile now.

Fit_Advantage2386

It is consistent to a certain point, if KO drops by enough it would wipe out enough to take out a few weeks of premiums. I would want to have the collateral diversified among more stocks to eliminate this risk which is quite difficult as I do not have a lot of capital nor do I want to use leverage or invest in weaker companies

Big_Morning_2485

Coke..not KO.

kemar7856

What is coca cola consolidated I thought it was just KO ? 

kemar7856

KO stock split I can be like buffet now

0neEyedMonster

KO

Stonker_Warwick

Totally agree. Easy port, then. COST, META, BRK, AAPL,KO,PEP,MNST,LVMH,ASML. Just a streak of incredible companies, frankly. The only problem is valuation on all but 4 of these: ASML, META, BRK, and LVMH. Add on the idea that the companies we buy must be modern-day utilities, building critical infrastructure like internet, social media, semiconductors, wholesale foods, insurance, and legal drugs and give some vague respect to valuations, we end up with META, BRK and ASML. While watching for a crash on others. Pretty good idea and a decent list.

Father_of_Lies666

You’ll always be at the whim of the markets. HYSAs don’t generally beat inflation, if even matching it in recent years. I don’t mean to sound gloomy, but this situation will get worse before it gets better. I’m in individual stocks, hedging with options (or really, downright playing in long dated options). This is an… interesting time to learn this. I would park it somewhere predictable, learn, and wait. Then again, I’m more of a trader. I get the allure of DCA forever. Buuuuuuuuut lost decades happen. My LT “boring fund” is sitting in RCS (strategic income fund, DRIP method, short dated US bonds), KO, ADM, and a few ETFs across some historically cheap sectors (energy comes to mind, as does consumer discretionary, though they are volatile). 30, contribute about the same you do to it. Exited SPY in Feb, haven’t looked back.

UnderstandingSea4745

For starters, this is an etf, so it has constituents we can review. Here are the companies. These companies would probably have lower profits in heavy recessions. If we don’t have a bad recession they will price gouge and make high profits. I don’t think you’re stupid but your critical thinning or thought process is lacking Costco Wholesale Corp (COST): 10.52% Walmart Inc (WMT): 9.69% Procter & Gamble Co (PG): 9.01% Coca-Cola Co (KO): 6.41% Philip Morris International Inc (PM): 6.34% Altria Group Inc (MO): 4.50% Mondelez International Inc (MDLZ): 4.42% Colgate-Palmolive Co (CL): 4.39% PepsiCo Inc (PEP): 4.15% Kimberly-Clark Corp (KMB): 2.83 I guess I am just looking for substance in discussions which isn’t common today. Im not great at discussing vibes but you guys carry on I guess. Cool.

greenpride32

If you look at the long term chart of the SP500 it goes up over time, over 90 years of time. Even if you bought at short term high peaks of 1965 and 2000 (before very large dips), you will DCA yourself to profitability long before the index itself recovers. Why? Because you are spending much more time accumulating shares during the dip, then you are at the peaks. The only point you are correct about is inflows do help the stock market trend upwards - but that is only a short term dynamic. Just about every single day, there is an inflow or outflow surplus that drives the market up or down. But in the long run, the value of companies, what you're actually buying when purchasing stock increases over time as the economy grows. SP500 cumulatively has over $1t in profits each year. It also pays over $500b in cash dividends to shareholders each year. People try to talk about stocks like it's a gold or crypto which essentially all operates on Greater Fool theory - but big difference is there is something financially concrete backing the stock market. The most successful and profitable bussinesses in the history of humanity - MSFT AAPL WMT V AMZN HD COST KO GOOGL PG - and you can own a piece of them. Anyone who has a negative outlook on long term investment in the stock market simply has no money invested (or weren't successful probably with timing or speculation). Look at long term SP500 chart of 5/10/15/20/25/30/35 years and you can say many things - one thing you can't say is that person wouldn't have been profitable.

beeskeepusalive

This will actually help the earnings of US multinationals (KO for example) that earn a lot overseas and bring that money back to the US. Many corporations have stated the bad exchange rate as a drag on earnings for a while now.

greenpride32

Stocks don't trade on any set formula. If they did there wouldn't be a "market". Everything would be arbitraged to a fixed value at any given point in time. IMO P/E ratio is an outdated metric (it was never great to begin with because it is backwards looking). Let me give an example of why. KO is mature company that primarily has flat growth. They may sell brands and take a big top line hit, but then buy other brands and prop top line back up. But there is no orgranic growth. It's simply margin efficiency gains they work on capturing. KO has been successful in doing that and able to consistently raise dividend payouts. Yield is currently at 2.87%. But PE is a whopping 29. Okay let's apply to them what might be a fair PE ratio for a slow/no growth company of 14.5. But then what happens to the yield? It becomes 5.74% which is unheard of for a stable/defensive/consumer stock. How much money would float into this already popular stock if the yield was near 6? This is what you call market dynamics - the bid/ask drove the stock to it's current price considering many (or all) factors. It doesn't really matter what YOU think something is worth. The work of KO stock at time of my typijng is $71.68 and for SPY it's $578.37. You can think SPY should be worth $400 all you want - but good luck to you finding a seller. So what's the point of living in fictional hypotheticals? It gets you nowhere in the real world.

ShellfishJelloFarts

!p KO

pacivys

lmao for a second i thought KO was lumped with energy 🤣

dearkosm

Better buy KO than this convoluted mess

ICE-FlGHT

Not KO? Guh.. lol

Effective_Pea_7244

and of course lets not forget about them dang ru$$ian's Ru$$ia's longest-reaching missile is the [RS-28 Sarmat](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=RS-28+Sarmat&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIBBAB&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3), a [intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM)](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=intercontinental+ballistic+missile+%28ICBM%29&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIBBAC&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3) (ICBM) with a range of 18,000 kilometers. It entered operational service in September 2023 and is considered the world's longest-range and most powerful extant ICBM system. Other significant Russian long-range missiles: * [**R-36**](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=R-36&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIDBAB&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3) **(SS-18 "Satan"):** An ICBM with a range of up to 16,000 kilometers.  * [**RS-24 Yars**](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=RS-24+Yars&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIEhAB&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3)**:** An ICBM with a range exceeding 10,000 kilometers.  * [**RT-2PM2 Topol-M**](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=RT-2PM2+Topol-M&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIDRAB&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3)**:** An ICBM with a range of 11,000 kilometers.  * [**RSM-56 Bulava**](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&cs=1&q=RSM-56+Bulava&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizzfHOg7aNAxXyMEQIHTNgLZoQxccNegQIDhAB&mstk=AUtExfBb3J465EkiJR4FN7vfqTID5UIS6_NASGWQRY_n1cdM82tjFmQ0ekwLQUsAkLxeaSpqosq3jJ2sACuVCxNf8zL7SRZJe5JnRrh_W7MYWzK06LHuzN0QLiW-tajum0m0I0t5YrwNjsRDuA4TO8bZk-SxHwyeJrDjwoR-SumJl0fTvEuF8fISOUKQta1a_KO8A81T&csui=3)**:** A submarine-launched ICBM with a range of up to 9,500 kilometers.  .The [Zircon hypersonic missile](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f24ca8b027933cc4&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS924US924&q=Zircon+hypersonic+missile&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6hIXng7aNAxVPC0QIHcnaCAkQxccNegQIKBAB&mstk=AUtExfC9oMEidH62IsqnvEbnqUUSmx5yqnw2LVOxbUmNl4Q6cgsWMu5xm2My6Um1T3D9zgJHQwF8z1SsTnAol6p2cdFttjHxEjSHXTlLShxTmLb4q-c9VwPbld4YlT6fVwI7hCe4YIX5fvV1BL4jSk41GDFbk0J4Y9hX8VrSD4cvyFxmkS0FTwJnBv70rHyfknwXQUso&csui=3) is considered Ru$$ia's fastest 

Coolpop52

Oh my god that sucks. Yeah, the past 1 week chart for Apple is not good, and intraday, it just dumps early on and goes back up later on. Just like you, ive been doing weeklies on AAPL, but mostly just trying to time the bottom and cash out. Today I bought a 212.5 call 6/6 exp, and sold later on for like a $4 profit, lmao. But yeah, it sucks when the stock moves against you randomly. Bought a call on KO before and it randomly dropped.

Aggravating_Taro_556

KO has a higher PE than XOM & CVX lol 

RampantPrototyping

Literally everything on my watchlist except GOOGL, KO, and the VIX are red

BlueSwoosh248

Warren Buffett loving this KO performance

greenpride32

>the overall direction is highly impacted by money inflows and outflows This is a point that many people just don't understand or realize. Stocks are just an asset class, like any other, it takes excess demand to increase the price. But what makes stocks different from most other asset classes is there is an actual business underlying, and when you're talking major indices such as SP500, they are the cream of the crop of publicly traded companies. Cumulatively they make over $1t in profits and pay over $500b in cash dividends each year - over time those numbers are only increasing. Gold sits in a physical vault - it does nothing. Crypto sits in a virtual vault - it does nothing (okay ETH you could argue can be staked). Rare collectibles just sit there as well. Real estate can be used to generate income or it cannot. Your argument that the stock market goes up over time due to inflows is correct. Your reason behind it, more accessibility, is not correct. Not only individuals, but trusts, pensions, and annuities also leverage the markets because it has a proven track record of increasing over time. This upward is backed by increasing profits and return to shareholders. If the market was just flat over time, everyone would rather collect bank interest or chase some other option instead. Looking at it from a micro layer to apply to individual companies for their own success (or failure) stories. If I held KO stock for 33 years, it's going to return the entire amount of the share price I paid upfront for it. On top of that, the value of the stock would have gone up 600%. Sound a lot more attractive than a bond.

gargeug

Not having a slow noose tied around your neck via their proxies for 50+ years, culminating in one of their tendrils storming your country at night and killing over 1000 of your citizens. Putting a stop to that forever seems like a nice gain. There is some wisdom in not backing down when they are on their heels and delivering the KO punch. Don't give them time to regroup and utilize a military who now has valuable wartime experience. You'll never have a better chance in the grand scheme of things. Look what they did to Hezbollah with the pagers. Imagine what they've been saving up their sleeves for their archenemy. Chances are they could even things up to use their ground force.