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Roundhill Magnificent Seven ETF
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30 year old. What's got the greatest possible potential for returns? TQQQ?
Is Roundhill Magnificent Seven ETF ($MAGS) Worth investing in?
What are your thoughts on MAGS (Magal Security Systems)?
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MAGS earnings end of month, don't be ghey bears now
Having a good year but I own a lot of gold-related (various gold etfs, miners, royalty), defense and energy while the growth side has been focused on what has been working (memory, optics/photonics.) Tons of people in VOO/SPY during an energy crisis and energy is 3.5% of the fund. Mag 7 is about 32% of the SPY and Mag 7 (as represented by the MAGS etf was down 15% at the low.) Meanwhile, with energy the XLE is +22% for the year. Last year, I thought it was a good idea to increase exposure to real assets and that has worked very, very well so far this year.
This is either going to be a biblical bull trap, or the markets truly don't give a fuck about 🥭 and his shart of the deal scams anymore I had been dunping some cash into MAGS the last few weeks but I honestly don't know wtf to do with the rest of the cash
Anyone buy the MAGS etf? Was looking at possible leaps there but the volume is almost nothing?
Is MAGS a good ETF to buy?
If there is a ceasefire the market has likely put in a bottom and will focus on earnings, which are going to be fine and provide institutional support for all the beaten up stocks. MAGS and SOXX getting ready to lift this market out of the mess.
We really haven't sold off that much, nor have we run any significant lows for liquidity higher. I'm looking for MAGS at $80. Once we reach into internal liquidity for lower on the daily which we will probably hit by eod I'll be selling for a lower entry.
MAGS is nearly -20%, which would be a bear market.
Right now I'm worried more about AI troubles weighing things down. Most of the recent SPY gains revolved around the MAGS.
The recent jury verdict against META and Google is concerning. Lots of people will be looking for a payday; big tobacco part II. will still buy MAGS. [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c747x7gz249o](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c747x7gz249o)
MAGS now basically in a -20% bear market.
The ETFs are better. I am just giving you names like QQQ or SMH or MAGS. If you still want stocks, I am giving some names, you need to review in details which is good for you. MSFT, NVO, V (Visa), CPB, HMY, then CTAS,SAP,GOOGL and META. BTW: I just monitor many companies, but my investment is very low 10% or below, as I focus on trading. Of all these, I own NVO and HMY only in my accounts.
New lows for XLK and MAGS today though.
Anyone looking at MAGS during this pullback?
But why? It's the biggest piece of shit stock in the MAGS and NDX It's going under $300
I don't usually do short term plays but I thought what the hell. I sold a portion of my IAU right when gold was starting to drop off. Put in to MAGS rather than trying to pick something specific. I'm adding to VUG, VTI etc because it's a good time to do so but MAGS I will sell off when things blow over. Could be 3 weeks could be 3 months. If it's 3 years then that's okay too.
for the first time in a long time QQQ and MAGS charts look very much ugly imo.... and tbh I have no clue what stick saves this administration can pull due to the oil situation and Iran is not going to go quietly into the night
If you want specifically Mag 7 exposure, there's the MAGS ETF, but it's terrible, even if you decide you want exactly seven stocks in your portfolio and are too lazy to buy those seven stocks yourself. The expense ratio is "only" 29 bps, but they use ridiculous return swaps which completely kill their return. I can't think of any reason to do this except so they can be technically considered "diversified", even if this does absolutely nothing to really diversify their portfolio. In the meantime, it means they've trailed just buying the seven stocks by almost 4% per year (and about 20% cumulatively since inception): https://testfol.io/?s=6JU8nboO9Nc Assuming a $1M investment for 30 years, with even a relatively conservative 10% expected return, that 4% real drag will cost you $11.7M over the life of the investment--more than 2/3 of the amount you would have had otherwise. (If you want to assume the Mag 7 will continue delivering 40% per year--which would never happen--then that will cost you $14 billion over the life of the investment.)
It sounds like you've come up with a plan that works. I'm not a newb, I've been using options exclusively for 5 or 6 years now, so I understand what you're doing. I just want you to understand that, that I'm not a new guy trying to understand the concept of what you're doing. But I wondered about the idea that selling Weeklies could **completely pay for** a LEAPS Call, so I checked on it, and thought you might be interested to hear what I found (**yes**, it works). **MAGS** is an ETF of the Mag7. The **Jan'27 40C** at 82-delta (I always buy Calls at 80-delta or higher) costs **24.90**. There are 96 weeks till expiration. The Weekly **20Mar61.5C** at 28-delta (I usually sell Calls at 30-delta, no higher, unless I'm just trying to get rid of something) is selling for **0.42** at Midpoint. 96 weeks of 'about' that per week yields $40.32. **So indeed the LEAPS Call is paid for.** Paid for, AND $15.42 (62% more) left over. Great work! MAGS could even drop to 40 (where the LEAPS Call would be just-ATM) and the 30-delta short Calls should still be about $1.50 away, using today's Weekly as a model (though that could change if IV changes, but it shouldn't, given this is an ETF comprised of 7 companies). So then we could say that we could be selling the Weekly all the way down to MAGS at (40 - 1.50) = 38.50. From today's price of 59.94, that's a drop of ***36%, which doesn't seem likely.*** (MAGS fell 28% over Liberation (from your money) Day/week, so that's a good recent test. MAGS wasn't around during the COVID drop.) What are you using for underlyings? Stocks, probably? I momentum-trade ETFs, so I buy LEAPS Calls on ones that are going up. When they **stop** going up, I get out of them. I used to sell CCs against them (ending up with the PMCC, of course), but I'm getting away from that because they cap gains. I could see what you're doing, farming weekly theta, as another angle on the same idea. But if the long Call started going down I'd want to close the position; but maybe let it lose half its value first, or some rule like that. Have you been doing this long? Do you have total-return numbers over a year? Or even just 6 months or 3 months? I'm Mike, in Atlanta, and wouldn't mind chatting with you about this stuff if you want. Take care.
Huh? I think You got it the other way around. MAGS YTD -13.5%
59.69 is some sick avg cost on MAGS
There’s also MAGS (7), TOPT (20), etc
Good thinking as you get to know it better. Mar options were reported high, but earnings isn't until Apr. Something afoot? Looked at May ITM calls for a possible debit spread, but it's not even 1:2 The ATR is down to $1.15. So how do you plan on trading this? day trades are SPY, swing is MAGS.
Not sure if you can buy it if non-EU, but dont do MAGS when you have MAG7. Go big or go home.
MAGS full port at open
TF is MAGS? MU, AMZN, Gold?, SNDK I have no idea what's going on.
K-shaped recovery trade Buy MAGS Sell everything else Can't lose
Yeah that's why i consider replacing spy entirely with qqq. I think i will refrain from trying to guess any particular mag 7 to be the big winner. May just go MAGS etf.
MAGS etf is up 20% over 1 year... currently flat for 5 months.
I know MAGS is an ETF but anything below 63 is big weakness for the Mag7 and there would be no way for SPY ATH
MAGS puts seem safer. if nvda drops, you'd think there would be a general sell off in mags or qqq if nvda pops, it means bag7 are going to be cash flow negative next 18 to 24 months, presumably
There is no bubble that will burst. The [dot.com](http://dot.com) bubble was exactly that... All [air.No](http://air.No) substance. The AI companies out there now are brick and mortar. They have inventories and cash flows. Nvidia is like an energy stock. Everyone needs it. As are the top 7. Look at ETF MAGS to get a piece of all the tops seven in one.
Even when IGV and MAGS pumping MSFT still can't do shit
MAGS has pretty much the same chart as one year ago
What are you talking about MAGS has been in a downtrend for a month
The stock is selling because the entire software sector continues to be sold day after day + more money continues to go to where the money is being spent than who is spending the money (MAGS -4.5% YTD, while memory, optics, semi/semicap and photonics names absolutely ramp higher.)
Now? Value has been outperforming growth for months. SPY outperforming MAGS for months as well.
Honestly I’m just waiting for this to correct so I can put all 350k of my net with into the MAGS etf and chill until the next correction
"All the big tech stocks have been trending down for months after the bull run" MAGS is +1.5% over the last 6 mo. SOXX is +43% There are absolutely parts of tech that are working very well, but too many people on Reddit will not look beyond the playbook of "mega cap tech: collect 'em all." Some of those names that everyone piled into for years haven't worked that great for a while (MSFT +65% over the last 5 years, AMZN +22%) but I think people have stopped bothering to look and don't want to research other options so they just keep pressing that bet again and again. Also, this isn't even a correction and people are calling it over? People used to occasionally ask "why is my stock getting obliterated?!?!" and you could look and be relatively assured that "obliterated" = down 10% or more. Now people ask that and you can be relatively assured that it's down like 2-3%. People say, "If you like (fill in the blank stock) at $x, you must like it (10% lower.)" It feels like the answer for many people today would be no or they've sold it already.
Real (crayon) analysis for the disabled among us: Bouncing off the levels we did today saved us from negative gamma waterfall on the nasdaq but a green close is needed on IGV and the MAGS to put fear behind a little. Tard-o-meter: cautiously bullish, not taking any positions yet
MAGS setting up a reversal candle on the 200d ma. We could see a sustained bounce here over the next few days.
MAGS lowest daily RSI since liberation day off vibes instead of headlines - getting thin down here with VOL through the roof
Check out MAGS, roundhill 🅱️agnificent 7 ETF
The obvious play during this spending cycle has been things like memory, which this sub seemed actively disinterested in until SNDK was up 100% for the year already. Semicap, photonics, optics, all these things remain great stories and have actually done well this year while the MAGS etf is -6.5%. I'd agree that Google is the most appealing Mag 7 ex-NVDA but other things are higher on the shopping list.
" Normally something in the mag 7 would be a "safe bet"" Too many people act as if Mag 7 are the new staples but also still a growth story. In the early 2025 downturn, META lost about 33% in a little over a month. Amazon and Apple lost about 25%. The MAGS etf is -6.5% YTD. There are plenty of things that are actually performing well, like basic materials (XLB +15% ytd), industrials (XLI +10.25%) and energy (xle +19%), but this sub doesn't talk about those things. This sub doesn't even talk about much variety of tech names beyond Mag 7, while things like LITE are +45% YTD. "Where the mega caps are spending" has been a better playbook than Mag 7 for 2-3 years now and with capex ramping higher, that's been even more the case this year. "If getting out of the mag 7," It's not that people have to dump the Mag 7 entirely, but the sort of "collect em all" view on the group became much of the playbook for a lot of people on here and then most of the discussion on here especially for the last couple years despite the fact that some of the Mag 7 have been underperforming for a while. People should pick their one or two best ideas.
When are they renaming the MAGS etf to BAGS?
markets hate huge capex and negative free cash flows MAG7 will keep collapsing MAGS weekly chart looks like -20% more is coming
MAGS weekly chart looks like the crash is just starting
Mag 7 are so ridiculously oversold. MAGS is a surprisingly diversified etf (aside from being all in tech): tesla the shitco meme but i guess a robotics play now, nvidia the chip pure play, goog apple meta all with very strong and resilient balance sheets (i wouldn't call them defensive plays but it's good enough, strong recession proof revenues and low debt), amazon for consumer staples and cloud (could either win big or lose big soon, flat in the meantime.), microsoft for software (rip) though they are well positioned to implement ai in enterprise due to insane moat. Concerning though how quickly it can get punished by a minor sentiment shift. If the ai bubble unravels they might not be as resilient as i think.
MAGS, SHLD, UPRO, CHAT FOR the next 25 years
Mag7 companies obviously all trade independently, but they’ve traded together enough to develop a nickname so clearly there’s some psychological aspect to their overall performance. The MAGS etf is really close to the 200 SMA. I think this upcoming week is either a big rally as they bounce off it, or we head towards genuine correction territory for the market as a whole. I believe the chop is over and we finally pick a direction.
look at weekly MAGS chart mag7 is over that capex will ruin them stay safe
Because it isn’t MAGS?
look at MAGS weekly chart this shit looks ready for a -20% crash
"Why Everything Is Selling Off?!" It isn't. Everything that has been popular on Reddit because it's worked is selling off. This sub used to talk about a wide variety of names, now it talks about maybe a dozen or two at most and that playbook isn't working. Rather than look for what is, people keep endlessly buying the same playbook. "AI Stocks are Also Selling Off?!" They are? SOXX +12% YTD, SPY -0.3%, MAGS -5.5% YTD. All the power/"ai adjacent" industrials are ramping. GEV, CAT, etc.
Semicap, photonics, optics, memory, semis all mooning. South Korea ETF (nearly half of which is SK Hynix and Samsung) +28% YTD. Massive amounts of money is being spent on AI but this sub remains oddly loyal to mega cap tech (the spenders) rather than focusing on where they're spending. "we saw the end of the Silver/Gold craziness etc." The GDX is still up 23% YTD vs the SPY +1.3% and MAGS -3.3% COPP +20% YTD, SETM +21% YTD, LITP +6% ytd, URNM +19% ytd Names like GEV +21% ytd. Even the XLE is +20% YTD.
The "layer one" names (and there's plenty of others; all the testing (TER +54% ytd), all the optical/photonics names, others in semicap, etc) are mooning YTD yet this sub remains strangely loyal to Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, Google rather than focusing on where those companies are spending inordinate amounts of money. "Samsung, SK Hynix," EWY (about 45% in the above two names) +28% YTD. All the copper going into data centers, COPP etf +20% ytd. Mag 7 etf/MAGS -3.3% YTD.
"Investors rotating into hardware / AI infrastructure (Siemens Energy +5%)" This has been a better story than a fair amount of tech for 2-3 years now. "Where the money has been spent" has broadly been a better theme than "who is spending it." IMO, this started to ramp up again this year. MSFT -12%, GEV +16%/Siemens Energy +31% YTD after playing catch-up to GEV in the last year or so. "“Unforgiving software tape,” as JPM put it" Why will that change, really? You're going to get bounces but it wouldn't surprise me if AI starts to become like Amazon was for so many years for industries like drug stores, where every time Amazon announced anything healthcare related it would impact CVS/WBA. Eventually some names will differentiate themselves (NET caught up in the software selling in recent weeks, +15% this morning on earnings last night), but some won't. "AI-disruption fears hitting European tech" Buy real assets. What is "ai-adjacent" that can't be easily disrupted by it? There are going to be people with tech-heavy portfolios that have worked for ages and might not work as well going forward. Tech discussion on here used to be a much wider variety of names, now it's just largely Mag 7 (MAGS -2.7% YTD.)
> MAGS had a 64% annual return in 2024 and 23% in 2025 Ah yes, the Mag7 INDEX fund. That was only incepted in April 2023.
Um... SMH had yearly returns of 73% (2023), 39% (2024), and 49% (2025). MAGS had a 64% annual return in 2024 and 23% in 2025. Even a more conservative play of VXUS averages out to about 17% return over the past 3 years.
MAGS etf hit a brick wall in september and is flat since. To be fair yeay with google it's only beaten over the last 2 and a half months.
Sure! Buy MAGS hedge with TSLA puts
MAGS etf is at +0% 🤡🤡🤡🎪🎪🎪💈💈🎠🎠 *plays entry of the gladiators*
long QQQ/MAGS/XLI - short SLV/GOLD....thank me in a year
MAGS *are* all doodoo except apple. Lighting hundreds of billions on fire for "AI" that they'll never get a return on investment to justify
I am an algorithimc trader, trying to time the market (many people in this blog may dislike it or downvote, no doubt) which is what your question is! My system monitors 500+ stocks/etfs, mainly spx,ndx out of which almost 52 came to buy range including MAGS stocks. => [https://imgur.com/8H8Gz44](https://imgur.com/8H8Gz44) ( % drop caclulated from Oct 8, 2025) I do not know whether this is part of big crash or not, but the market consistently thrashed many stocks, drawdown is 20%-50% easily as shown in the picture. At this stage, market is supposed to go upside (even if Friday morning pulled back), it may be DCB or bull run, which I do not know now until next week run. As of now, I have 60% cash and 40% in GLD,SLV, TQQQ, QQQ and SPY calls etc expecting a turnaround for 3-5 days. If this is going to be bubble burst, market will swing upside tomorrow and monday glaringly making every one get into FOMO mode. Good Luck
MAGS down -1.98% during trading hours, and another -2.28% in AH. MAGS + XLK now officially in correction.
I bet if you guys go buy MAGS puts ATM right here its a money printer. Just saying.
KEEP IT UP! I ended up 3.2% thanks to BRK.B calls. GLD calls got THETAed, NVDX didnt play out so bought a shit ton more, stayin away from MAG7 (rotation to non MAGS is happening). Told myself to not touch PYPL OR FISV. My Limit calls didnt fill for PLTR, my puts for MU helped some. Prolly overtraded
Yeah and some how the market is " SoO cOncEnTraTeD" but MAGS is down 5 percent past 3 months
the Age of MAGS is over. The time of the Orc has come.
We've really not moved too much up in SPY/QQQ since what, the Oct/Nov highs? Kinda ranged around a bit. Big money scuttled off chasing commodity plays maybe. Or doing tax things. Letting ERs come out for MAGS and seeing what the AI trend was doing. If the USD ranges up and metals die back a bit further by the end of this month, maybe the speculative money comes back. Mango could always do something wild as well and inject some real vol, that always brings the money back around.
My performance is much higher than MAGS or FNGS. I weight them in my portfolio based on my conviction, so GOOG > NVDA > META > AMZN > AVGO > MSFT, but I readjust based on current valuations so great chance to scoop up MSFT. I don't want AAPL or TSLA at these valuations. If AAPL fell to a PE of 25 or TSLA to a PE of 15, I might consider. This also gives me the ability to buy on pullbacks instead of relying on the ETF to balance. Finally, for just managing 7 stocks (and underperforming), a 29 bp expense ratio is preposterous.
Question. Why don't you just buy a Mag 7 etf. Example MAGS or FNGS? The fund rebalances for you.
Bag 7 all collectively down from ath except for google. MAGS etf has been flat since october peak. Slightly negative and bigly negative in euro terms.
You don't even have to go that extreme. Just use ticker SPY/MAGS and it will show the SPY outperforming the MAG7 during that time period. Little trick I recently learned.
Perhaps something tactical like EDGH, or a managed futures fund/other alternative strategy? "already 3.5% ytd 2026 in <1 month" Better than mega cap tech is doing w/the MAGS etf +2.1% "This feels totally unsustainable" How much is the dollar down?
Buy MAGS ahead of earnings if you believe.
Maybe for the indexes, but there are things that have started the year insanely well, including metals - the SETM etf is +25% YTD (+132% in the last yr), COPP +12% YTD, COPJ +17% YTD. Even the XLE is up almost 9% YTD. Lithium, uranium mining (URNM +68% in the last year), battery metals etfs, rare earth etfs, etc - all up big over the last year. Real assets are mooning. Tech broadly not doing great (XLK down slightly for the year, MAGS -0.5%), but SOXX is up 9%.
Massive MAGS etf sell volume candle lol, Oh no no no.
You can do that. Roundhill does it on MAGS, for example. Tons of firms do it. Most of these funds lose money in the long run because CCs cap your upside on the underlying
MAGS red, space stocks and drone stuff not too bad
Meta is very weak in MAGS so far. So need to have a very good entry.
Believe it or not I loaded up on MAGS ETF if AI booms then I get rich, if there’s a bubble I go bye bye
Much of this sub hasn't liked this market/felt it was healthy for the last 9 months and 40% off the bottom. I own things that are up 40-50%+ YTD and January isn't half over. Healthy? No, but if I had continually questioned the market every step of the way as much as this sub has I would have sold everything a while ago. If there are things that I like long-term and have a great cost basis in, trim a little, look for out of favor things but don't sell winners completely. Dial down risk a little bit, dial up risk a little bit. Not saying this to OP, but too many people seem to one day randomly decide that the market is up too much and sell everything or sell at the wrong time (the apocalyptic sentiment on here at the bottom in April - which was a bit worse than the sentiment on here in March 2020.) Much of the last 5 years hasn't been healthy but it's weird that nobody was questioning the market mooning in early 2021 when so many people were talking about full porting Ark funds on here. In 2025, it felt like there were multiple threads every single day questioning it *every single step of the way.* There are a lot of things doing well this year but so much of this sub's growth focus has become the Mag 7 (some of which haven't even beaten Walmart over the last 5 years) and the MAGS etf is down YTD. Also, for all the concern over geopolitics in this sub it's odd that that doesn't seem to extend to risk to the currency and going to cash while gold ramps higher and higher. Nothing against OP and not trying to be harsh, but in the last year or so it feels like this sub is largely either talk about the same set of stocks or why to be cautious about the market but with no imminent catalyst.
ATHs ARE FAKE IF THE MAGS ARENT THERE WITH IT
It doesn't really matter as the problem is mathematical. The lower the amount of stocks in an index the higher you expect the percentage to be for 7 stocks. In an extreme case (e.g. MAGS ETF) an index of 7 stocks will have 100% of it's value in the top 7 stocks.
Yes, passive index investing combined with regular dollar-cost averaging means all stocks in the index will be bought proportionately on new ETF inflows. The more ETFs include a particular stock and the more money flows into these ETFs, the more that stock rises. But it’s also self-fulfilling. The more people buy MAGS ETF or XLK etc, the more the underlying stocks rise and the more people want to dollar cost into these ETFs on a regular basis or chase the stocks higher. The only thing that breaks this inadvertent self-fulfilling momentum trade is when the economy tanks. People will want to hold more cash in uncertain times so they take profits, some will lose their jobs so they can’t dollar cost average, and the near term business fundamentals at the companies weaken and they miss earnings. Then the momentum swings into reverse. We saw that in 2022-2023 and again in April 2025.
I might be biased but I am seeing lot more Orange iPhones after the new release and neighborhood Apple Store is always crowded. To be realistic, all the ETFs/Funds I invest in( look into) have 7-12% AAPL so $200 will hit VTI or MAGS.
Unfortunately I cannot buy MAGS leaps. Don't ask me why