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Roundhill Magnificent Seven ETF
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30 year old. What's got the greatest possible potential for returns? TQQQ?
Is Roundhill Magnificent Seven ETF ($MAGS) Worth investing in?
What are your thoughts on MAGS (Magal Security Systems)?
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You can buy MAGS for your whole portfolio. Why not: because diversification is a thing, and you and I don't know where we are in the party. (I have been significantly overweight in MAG 7, but often trade around core positions. I would have been better off buying and holding, rather than trading. But while missing gains, I also avoided drawdowns. I know myself, and if I didn't occasionally cut my exposure, I'd likely sell into the dips.
There are products sold with just that sort of philosophy, such as the Fang ETNs having 10 holdings iirc and there is MAGS which holds the Magnificent 7
58 here, Still dealing mainly the 50% Large Cap/Tech(XLK/SMG/MAGS/SPMO), 30% Managed Futures/Gold, 20% Mathematical Decaying LETFs/long(Tech2x/3x), \+40-50% LETF's Shorts(Tech/Uncorrelated Hedges/Gold etc..), When/IF I ever cover these Shorts(8-9yrs ago), got 7 digit Profits to Pay Uncle Sam. Hope my Uncle Sammy is President then!!!
There is and it does. ticker: MAGS
MAGS lagged QQQ by 66% today. That means money rotated out of AI and in to other tech. This shit is deflating, be warned.
Hi, Long time investor here, I can tell you that even if you research the SHI\* out of a stock , things can go to shit , markets turn , somebody puts a 200% tariff on a part needed for assembly . I agree with the gentleman that pointed out "Your exposure to speculative names is too high" I would have to agree. I don't do airlines either or cruise lines or Banks I try to have a base first , like some etf's of the S&P 500 , VOO, VOOG, etc. I have a good foundation of these , and have my little 5% or 10% speculation money, recently picked up SMCI , already has a 25% return. And for real speculation , IONQ , and SMR , A couple of other more targeted ETF's are MGK , basically the MGK, the [Vanguard Mega Cap Growth ETF](https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profile/mgk), holds **66 stocks** as of September 30, 2025. Its holdings are concentrated in U.S. megacap growth stocks, with a significant portion in the technology sector, and its top holdings include NVIDIA, Apple, and Microsoft. Or you can do more tech XLK is good for that .... Or the ETF MAGS the magnificent 7 , only those 7 stocks ... QQQ for tech as well , or if you are going to hold for a long time QQQM , lower fee's I also have individual stocks like Amazon, GOOGLE, APPLE, By using targeted ETF's I have been able to beat the S&P500 for the last 7 years or so.... So far this year , I have had returns of 38.27% YTD (mostly stocks) and another account (mostly ETF's) 15.76% YTD . Another one that's 16.51% YTD . The S&P500 as of today YTD 15.29 % Good Luck and Have a good day (:
Etf tickers: MAGS, CHIP (together up to 50% of portfolio) Any broad world ex-USA etf (up to 50% of portfolio) Gold (inflation is here to stay) Buy bitcoin next year when it gets cheaper. Based on crypto cycles it will dip next year. If the market actually enters a serious recession just keep it cash or buy ultrashort bonds to get a small but safe return. Or see if your bank has a decent yield on the savings account. A bond fund would be the traditional hedge but only if the fed panics and cuts rates quickly.
Bro yes, lol.... why do you prefer FNGS over MAGS?.. or if you ever considered MAGS as an option. The expense ratio for FNGS looks quite expensive over the long run in comparison to MAGS.
FNGS has the MAG7+3 in the ETF… 10% capped for 10 big tech. Your question is not clear to me. I don’t understand what you are asking. You’re asking why I prefer the MAGS over the MAGS?
I did, was wondering your preference over MAGS...
fake red MAGS going back up
SPX green MAGS red? we all know what this means
as heavy as MAGS is on SPY, SPY is still green today, carried by dow. By design
Or just go with the MAGS and cut out some junk
MAGS are having good customer base and revenue. The appreciation is better. MAGS are not S&P500 |SYMBOL|BUY\_DATE|BUY\_PRICE|SELL\_DATE|SELL\_PRICE|APPRECIATION| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |MAGS|4/7/2025|41.82|11/11/2025|67.27|60.86| |QQQ|4/7/2025|424.37|11/11/2025|621.57|46.47| |SPY|4/7/2025|504.79|11/11/2025|682.87|35.28| Past results can not guarantee future, but these companies are having good cash reserves and strong work force and management.
I will simply choose MAGS etf.
If you are earning and filing taxes, open Roth account and invest below plan with Roth. Since you are young, invest in MAGS or QQQ ETFs. You need buy periodically whenever you saved sufficient and keep doing it.
What a day to be alive, meme trading flat after earning while MAGS rips :))
I was gonna say https://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=sec is actually pretty green outside MAGS, good sign normally
Just waiting for my turn with my sneaky MAGS in the pocket. No amount of correction will take these titans down
You have an ETF called MAGS, you just invest in it.
Magnificent seven holding up nicely, QQQ down -1.9% MAGS only down -2%, 100 stocks vs 7 Really shows how the top companies just move the market
It’s funny really. QQQ is basically 1.5x leverage of SPY. And MAGS is 2x. That should tell you everything about the market rn.
Now I want to know what Christian Bale is doing with the MAGS. I'm out if he's selling or shorting as well.
SPY 0.3% QQQ 0.62% MAGS 1.46% Debt financing is the real bubble. NVDA will take all their money happily and will be the only survivor when the credit crisis hits. AI related industries are taking in hundreds of billions with interest repayments hoping their returns will outweigh that interest and yet overall everyone is seeing like less than 1% return. It’s madness. Anyway, calls.
Pretty good. But I would put some in VOOG, MAGS, SOFI, CHYM, and leftover cash in TLT/SGOV.
Can almost guarantee I will beat most of these YOLOs just AFKing in MAGS
Equal weight will get destroyed for the next few months. Only MAGS or the nasdaq will go up, because media is pushing 7 stocks to the public. Look at the outsides moves happening on stocks that still beat but don’t say AI. Duo -10% Adobe -5% CMG -20% CSGP -17% Deckers -15% RSP is not safer.
Invested $22,000 so far to QQQ, SPY and MAGS calls this week. Will double down on both calls and puts tomorrow.
RDDT is back! QQQ +2% tomorrow! MAGS +3%!
SPY is basically the same as this, MAGS may as well just be a leveraged spy lol
I'm also buying up the MAGS etf, was afraid to buy from ATH, appreciate the facebook discount
DCA is dollar cost averaging, go for etf MAGS (better returns than QQQ and VOO) as you are younger.
This company is the actual payment processor (a big one) of your credit/debit cards, so literally it kind of reflect how the economy is doing nowadays. But everything is AI so calls on MAGS!
I sold my MAGS today, converted it into a strangle to derisk, and parked on TLT with some defensive puts. Thankfully they kicked in, so I may wait to see how the market reprices, and DCA in for a new dividend base. I also sold my last IAU call at a small profit when I saw it wouldn't hold up. I expect silver to test for a new bottom tomorrow. Once it stops, I plan to write some 41-strike CSPs expiring Friday to harvest more theta.
Been in MAGS for 2 years now without owning SPY 😮💨🤌
When my husband died, I was suddenly hit with way more money than I could have ever imagined. He handled all of the finances, so I knew literally nothing. I put it all in a hysa at 4% interest and sat on that, and then studied personal finance like I was getting a degree in it. I talked to everyone, even people who I think make bad personal finance decisions. (This was much more enlightening than it seems, as it helped me sort out bad advice from good.) I approached it slowly and methodically. I kept our 401ks and IRAs as they were, since I trusted my husband's judgment on that and that is my primary safety net. I got a Step account (normally meant for children and young adults). I learned about ETFs and stocks, and each time I got interested in one, I bought exactly $100. This gave me skin in the game, in a way that reading could never do. I bought VOO, VTI, Fidelity Bitcoin, Roblox, XLG, MAGS, etc. A decent variety. This process was sooooo beneficial, as it allowed me to 'feel' the ups and downs, and work through that feeling of 'omg did i just throw money away?!' I sat on each of my $100 purchases for months before taking bigger action. Only once I was comfortable, I would withdraw from my HYSA and invest $1k, $10k, $50k, etc. This process helped me balance FOMO with confidence, as yes of course, I could've earned more in that time. I wanted to know that *I* was making these decisions, and not just chasing Warren Buffet or the millionaire next door. Nowadays, my parking lot is VOO and not an HYSA, but I don't regret my HYSA days at all.
MAGS is some good shit been AFK collecting cash for years now while watching people argue about which mag7 earnings to play
Today was mildly annoying. My SLV calls are down, but my puts are up. Assuming it stays in this rangeband, I have a ladder to wheel into. MAGS looks promising as well as TLT. Realized gains vs unrealized loss ratio is still acceptable.
Rebalance the port. Close my position on SGOV, it was just cash-parking. Add some deep otm leap puts on SLV. I saw .72 ask for Jan 2028, strike 25, so I'll probably grab some of them as a hedge for my wheel. Buy 100 shares of MAGS, with a protective put for this week, given five of the seven companies have earnings, then hope NVDA doesn't shit the bed next week :) Close my covered call on TLT, and pocket the spare change. I have a protective put for this week, just in case JPow pulls a surprise and says "no rate cut".
I need you guys's opinion on spy moves next week. That gap up is huge and I think it will try to retest the low 670's next week unless earnings are really good. But from what I saw most of the MAGS have given their numbers. I feel like everybody just gives af about these, and not the rest of earnings season. Could we see a pullback? (Also, how do you feel about IBM price moves today, will it moon even more next week?)
Went with a grab bag of shit today with my whole paycheck MAGS, JPM, BLK, GS, OPEN, and some FRMI
Buy MAGS its the mag 7 in ETF form. Also buy SPMO its momentum stocks. These two have performerd well over the last few years. https://totalrealreturns.com/n/SPMO,VOO,MAGS Also check out GLD.
QQQM only out for 5 yrs. Yes XLK, SCHG, SMH, FNGS(etn), FTEC and MAGS will easily... all higher TR from QQQM inception.
Correct, MAGS buy, hold, dca periodically ( not necessarily every day, but week or monthly) into it.
Oh man, you had **APLD** Calls before earnings today? I bet *they* popped! That was the first thing I saw on the Yahoo Finance home page this morning. I don't use margin, though I have it available on one of my accounts (\~41k). I don't see the need for it with the kinds of gains I'm getting. Have I mentioned in this thread 10.9% last week? And 8.9% the week prior. Then 5.0% and 10.2%. 8% per week on average, that's HUGE. I don't keep any cash per se, but the Model Portfolio I'm running in ToS's Paper Money (and will soon be doing with 100k of real cash whenever my rollover check makes it to Schwab) holds 20% **GLD** and 20% **TLT**. TLT is essentially a cash-equivalent, but gold to an extent also. The other (3) 20% slots will be ETFs I pick based on their momentum. Currently **MAGS, SILJ,** & **SMH**. Let me/us know how your LEAPS Calls work out!
Right now my model portfolio holds **MAGS, SMH,** & **SILJ**. I don't know what you mean exactly by "asymmetric assets," but GLD and TLT are also in my portfolio because they're somewhat inversely-correlated to the market. For instance, today with the Big Goober dumping on China: SPY is down 1.8% GLD is up 0.7% TLT is up 1.4% It's not like that every day, but they do seem to dampen the fluctuations. And I'm selling CCs against those 2, so even on days when they're flat or down they're making at least *some* money. Let me/us know how you get on!
I was laughing along with you, I hope you realize that. I used to sell at 30 days and 60 days (always at 80-delta), but it felt like those were too volatile, so I made for myself "never less than 90 days." So you might consider that too. What you said about the IV of LEAPS Calls being higher made me curious, so I went and checked some that I trade. Couldn't get close to 60DTE today, so I went with the 71DTE vice the 50DTE expiration: |Ticker|71DTE IV|463DTE IV| |:-|:-|:-| |GLD|21.3%|19.7%| |XME|31.0|30.2| |SMH|36.1|35.6| |MAGS|29.0|32.0| |TLT|16.0|16.3| |GDX|41.1|34.6| |IWM|24.6|26.0| Some higher, some lower, so I don't think IV is the reason that LEAPS are "so expensive." It's simply because you're buying more time at 365 days out than 60. But even though it's more theta you're buying, did you know that the theta-per-day is lower for LEAPS Calls? That's what makes them attractive: it costs you less per day, per week, per month to own them than shorter-dated Calls. Here's the numbers for the first 3 tickers above, choosing an 80-delta (or closest to) strike in each expiration: |Ticker|71DTE theta per day|463DTE theta per day| |:-|:-|:-| |GLD|8.9 cents|5.6 cents| |XME|4.2c|2.0c| |SMH|12.4c|6.8c| Averaging those up, it costs 4.8 cents per day to own a LEAPS Call, vs. 8.5 c/day to own a 71DTE Call. That's 77% more "overhead" if you will, owning the 71DTE Calls. And vega I don't even want to think about, because I don't think it matters. Take care.
Hi, did I say in this thread how I find them? If not, watch this short [screen capture video](https://imgur.com/a/barchart-etf-screening-VbwTWxy) I did the other week. Barchart is the bomb, but you might have or find another site to do the same thing. And you might not be able to do some of the things I do in the video, because I pay $20 a month for Barchart Premium, because it's well worth it to me. Did you see where I selected the criteria "**Has Options**"? For the most part that takes care of the liquidity question. But I do screen sometimes and find great charts, only to find that their options are thinly-traded. Or they don't have LEAPS. And tbh, the option volume doesn't matter just a whole lot, b/c if options are offered, and despite a wide B/A spread, you'll generally be filled close to Midpoint. And if you don't get a fill you like, move on to the next one. But adding a "**Volume**" filter might help too; 1M is probably high enough to weed out most of the chaff. **BUG**: *Whew! What's going on with its 1-year chart?* All that up-and-down and only up 12% over the past year? And the 6m: why did it drop \~19% from July 10th or so to August 10th? I don't see dividends to account for that. But let's look at the volume: Oh my, only 282k? I'm surprised it has options, tbh. But let's look at those options: Uh-oh: do you see that its expirations only go out to 162 days? By definition, **a LEAPS option is one that's farther than 1 year out**. So you can't do a LEAPS Call on this thing, and I'm out. I was first out when I saw the chart, I just worked through the rest of it for your benefit. I like that you're looking at an ETF over individual stocks, even if I think your reasoning is wrong. I get it, this ETF has a lower cost of entry, but: ***The reason we buy ETFs is because they're safer than individual stocks.*** Yes, I bolded AND capped that, because it's that important. If you don't quite understand why that is, I can explain. **I'd like you to take a look at** ***MAGS***, an ETF that tracks all 7 Mag7 stocks. I've taken the trouble of charting [BUG against MAGS and QQQ ](https://imgur.com/a/vKEBEui)for you.
Nice trade, I think? But this is your first time buying a Call, is that it? If so, congratulations! I used to be an Nvidia fan-boy (was HUGE into them in the runup to the split, and a bit after), so I can't fault you there. Except to say that I no longer do individual stocks; only ETFs for me from now on, I swear to the Almighty. But over 500 ETFs hold some NVDA, so I can't really escape it. In fact, I'm holding these with real money, with their percentage NVDA: SMH - 19%, their largest holding CHAT - 7.8%, largest holding And in paper money, but I *would* be holding it: MAGS - 14% (through swaps or whatever) I took a look at NVDA's chart, and while it's good, I can't say it's better than SMH. Here I [charted NVDA, SMH, & MAGS ](https://imgur.com/a/XmnNo9C)over the past 4.6 months. (I picked a starting date that best-illustrated my point, so a tiny bit of cherry-picking.) You can see that NVDA and SMH ended up at the same place. But my question is always: "But how was the ride getting there?" SMH's was smoother, don't you think? But what really concerns me about NVDA is that rolling-over from about 8/12 to 9/5: *What if it does that again, right now, right after you bought it?* That was 6.3%. Not huge in the larger scheme of things, but what would that do to a LEAPS Call? Or to your Call Debit Spread? Given just those charts, nothing else, not the names or anything, I'd pick the purple one over the blue one as a better ride. And tbh, I'd probably pick the orange one over the purple one. I mean, just look at how smooth it is. A couple of leveling-offs, sure, but no downs on the way up to 26% in 4.6 months. Apy that to 67% and that's a HUGE return. Then apply the 2.8x leverage of a MAGS 80-delta LEAPS Call right now and the return just gets stupid. So that's where I am with ETFs vs. individual stocks: *ETFs by themselves, if you play the momentum, can provide really-good returns even if you just buy shares.* But apply the leverage of LEAPS Calls to them and you're looking at just insane returns. **And those kinds of smooth trends are exactly the kinds of things I think we should be applying leverage to.** I forget now if you do ETFs or not, but if not, I'd implore you to really consider them. Take care.
Hi again! Yeah, with no new money coming in you'd need to work out for yourself what that all looks like. I'll give you an idea to think about though. Last Wednesday in ToS's Paper Money side I set up what's going to be my "5 ETF LEAPS Call Portfolio" when the money I've requested as a rollover from my government TSP (like a 401k) hits my Schwab Rollover IRA account any day now. I'll just go ahead and give you all of it, since you might find it interesting. 20% in each: GLD - will probably always have a place, unless it starts going down over months. TLT - Treasuries, same as above, but it probably stays regardless of what it does. I consider this (and gold somewhat) the "cash" part of my account. MAGS SILJ SMH The last 3 came from my screening process, which I've describe elsewhere. Also the managing of those I've described elsewhere, but the idea is to ride them up until they taper off, then screen again and replace. To answer your first question: today I took some profits out of MAGS and bought some SILJ 134DTE Calls (the closest I could get to 100-120 days, without going under). How why did I choose to put the profits in SILJ and not MAGS or one of the others? I plotted them against each other and evaluated trends. SILJ was 'better' on the 1-year, 6-month, 3-month, and 1-month views. It also happened to be the highest return over each of those time periods, but that only makes up maybe half of my decision-making process. It was 'smooth,' and if you've read me for long, you know I like smooth. AND it didn't have any big drops; that might've kicked it out in favor of something without. Always just plain-old long Calls. For any others reading this (and to re-affirm it for myself), buying Calls is dead-simple. If they're deep ITM LEAPS Calls, it's almost the same as buying stocks. We all know how to buy stocks; I just use LEAPS Calls for their leverage. Don't get me wrong, I know how to do all the kinds of Spreads, and I've done them all with real money, but now I don't have to worry about: How far out? What strike for the long leg? What strike for the short leg? How is current or future IV going to affect this thing? What's the Probability of Profit? Oh, and what's the ROI? Oh right, I have to calculate the width of the spread, subtract the Debit from that, then divide that into the....what is it again? Oh never mind! Sure, Bull Call Spreads aren't THAT complicated. BUT THEY'RE NOT *INTUITIVE* EITHER. That's what I LOVE about deep ITM LEAPS Calls: once you forget that they're *options*, and really start to think of them as **stock substitutes**, they become just like buying and selling stock shares.
I check (and roll some) mostly every day, simply because I love the markets and love trading. But checking/rolling just on weekends would work too. The value gained by the long Calls will be safely locked up in them until you get around to taking it out. Like a piggy bank I guess is the way I view it. As a kid if I wanted candy one day I might shake my piggy bank, and if some coins rattled around in it, take them out and go to the corner store to buy candy cigarettes or whatever (I'm old). Next day maybe there was no money in it, but maybe overnight Mom put some change in, to stretch that metaphor beyond its breaking point. But here the 'candy' is those \~100DTE Calls, and they're nearly as addicting as cigarettes. *So I look for money to buy them whenever I can.* In fact, in my model 5-ETF portfolio just now, I took some profit out of MAGS from yesterday and used it to buy some SILJ 134DTE Calls. (And don't worry, I'm doing this with real money too: 100.9k at the close just now. But I always have 1 or 2 model portfolios going on in ToS's Paper Money, trying out new ideas, or validating this one. Like I said, I *love* trading.) But you don't have to love it that much to do this. I really think that checking positions just once a month would be fine. And once a week, certainly. If your job doesn't let you be in the market during the day, then over the weekend set up the rolls and things. Monday night, check if they went through. Adjust and try again if needed, and/or put in some Buy orders for Tuesday for those sweet super-leveraged 100-day Calls bought with profits. And don't worry about getting 'best' fills or whatever. This is long-term stuff, so a penny or three 'lost' on a fill isn't going to matter in a week or a month. If it's AH and I'm setting up orders for tomorrow I let ToS give me the Midpoint fill price, then I come down/up from that a few cents or even a nickel. Then it'll almost for sure fill at the open. Oh, and what if the ticker is down at the open? It's been my experience that Schwab won't screw you; you'll still get "best fill" at the time. Which brings me to your question about IV: I don't worry about it. Should I? Maybe. But I made (in real money accounts) 10.9% last week, 8.9 the week prior, 5.0 before that, then 10.2, 3.3, 3.6, etc. Is a 'better' roll at some 'better' IV point going to make that much difference to the bottom line? I tend to think not, but try it both ways and see. Sorry this got long, but I talk to myself in these replies as much as to you guys, as it helps me codify my thinking. Plus I keep threatening to write a book someday, and that would mostly be cobbled together from these rambling missives. Take care.
Nice, I like it! But I've been burned too many times by single stocks, and I know that the wins from the others make up for it, but I'll give up some 'more' for 'smooth'. The ETF **MAGS** screened in for me last week, and on top of it doing 17% over the past 3 months, I'm getting 2.8x leverage from the LEAPS Call at 80-delta. So what's that, about 190% apy? I think that's enough. Keep doin' it!
Speculative, unprofitable names a la 2022 after 2020/21. SOUN, OKLO, etc. There's so many things that lost 40-50% quickly earlier this year (PLTR lost about 40% in 2 months, VST lost just shy of 50% in about 3 mo.) This sub went from scolding people if they weren't bullish late last year to scolding people if they were talking about buying a share of anything at the April bottom and we're almost all the way back to scolding people if they're not bullish. The market post covid has turned into escalator up (certain sectors go up seemingly every day; there's little concern for valuation aside from "price-to-narrative", so where as stocks would previously 5 steps forward, 2 steps back they just turn into a FOMO fest pile-on.) Eventually a lot of people get complacent/110% risk-on and all the sudden you get the elevator down (price-to-earnings suddenly matters again, everyone 110% risk-on can't dial-up so they de-risk.) Also, for all the talk about AI, people not talking about things like Gold Miners (GDX up 123% YTD), Copper Miners (COPX +66% YTD) and critical minerals in general (SETM +75% ytd.) While the AI trade goes on, there's a real assets trade clearly at work that has done better than the Mag 7 (MAGS +20% ytd) and tech (VGT +23% YTD.) Lastly, the fact that Cathie is actually having a good year with ARKK up 65% should be concerning, as is the fact that that fund is up 65% YTD and is still negative over the last 5 years.
I don't mind posting them in the open, because I know they're solid selections. But rather than giving you a fish, I'd rather teach you *how* to fish. I made this little [screen capture video](https://imgur.com/a/barchart-etf-screening-VbwTWxy) last week for someone to show how I screen on Barchart. You'd probably need to pay for BC Premium to be able to do some of the things, but this gives you an idea. *Especially* pay attention when I start showing what a 'good' chart looks like. There's no audio, just follow the cursor. **Here are the generic steps:** Open ETF Screener. Unselect all the leveraged ones (but leave the -1/Inverse box checked). Add just 1 screening criteria: Has Options (that pretty much takes care of Volume) Hit 'Add' so that moves down to the screening pane, then click See Results. Sort by 3-month performance. We want to know what's doing well *right now.* Now *THE* MOST IMPORTANT PART: click on "**flipcharts**" and start looking through charts. (Change to Line, and keep the view at 6 months.) Find ones that are up and **smooth**. Don't worry about what the ETF is or anything else, just the price action: up and SMOOTH. Then pick 5 or so that aren't closely correlated. (Like I wouldn't pick gold *and* the gold miners. And I wouldn't pick 2 China ones if those screened in.) Then go buy LEAPS Calls on them and get rich. Here are the 5 I put in my model portfolio last Wednesday: **GLD** \- gold is probably always going to have a place **TLT** \- and Treasuries will probably also have a place **MAGS** **SMH** **SILJ** Granted, silver and gold are somewhat correlated, but one is the gold metal, while the other is silver *miners*. It's okay for me, but might not be for you. Let's see what those look like on a [6-month chart.](https://imgur.com/a/a2I4lFX) Pretty good, right? TLT is flat, but that's okay; it's there to be the 'cash' part of the portfolio. Plus I'm making north of 30% apy selling CCs against it. GLD is similar, meant to be 'cash' and/or a hedge against inflation. But 36% in 6 months is a great return. And the others? *138% in 6 months?* Have you ever heard of such a thing from an ETF? But they're out there. Catch the wave and ride it up, that's the idea. But you have to monitor, and cut them when they roll over. Don't ride them back down. In other words, don't buy and *hold*. Buy and *monitor*. Step off one escalator onto the next one. And note that I didn't pick any of those 3 because they were up the *most*. I picked them because their charts were *smooth*. Up, sure, but smooth is more important. So there you go, now go forth and prosper!
I don't like the look of Amazon's chart, so I wouldn't be an investor right now. But in general about your Call purchase idea: You're looking at 20March, 165 days out, which I can get behind (a year is better, but 100DTE minimum). You're looking just ATM, which isn't generally recommended. The common recomendation is 80-delta. And the reason is, at the 220-strike, the 21.72 you'd be paying for that option is ALL time value. Time value that will go away over the 165-day life of the option. Divide to get: 21.72 / 165 = 0.13 That's 13 DOLLARS PER DAY you'd lose to time value. But move up to the 185C at 80-delta and the extrinsic value is less than half that, 10.48. What you're doing is paying for equity in the stock at that point. It's a safer play. Still not one I'd do on Amazon at this point, but take a look at GLD and SILJ. Or if you've got to have your Mag7, then MAGS.
Better to buy MAGS that gives all the growth!
CHAT (AI ETF) MAGS (Magnificent Seven ETF)
MAGS is an ETF that track the magnificent 7
A lesson I've had to continually re-learn over the years is that ETFs are better than equities. Based on your mix, I think you may know that too. But there's still something about those high-flying tickers that draws us to them like a moth to a flame. But I'm done with them for good this time. Too much"single-issue" risk. A missed earnings, an accounting scandal, an ill-timed tweet by the CEO: the stock drops 10% or more. With "basket of stocks" ETFs, you don't have that single-ticker exposure. Because of course a single company might only be 5 or 10% of the ETF. Now, you can have "systemic" risk that affects everything in the ETF, and that's why I avoid the ones that are particularly vulnerable to that: like cannabis and crypto. **With the leverage of LEAPS Calls** *we don't need ETFs to go up much before we're making a great profit.* Right now I've been loving the precious metals and their miners: GLD, GDX/J, SLV, SILJ, XME - there are others. Then SMH, MAGS (there's your Mag7 exposure), IGV, & IWM. IWM is actually a great example of what I look for in a chart: see how smooth it is? Up 20% in the last 6 months, and 2.7% in the last month. Its 444DTE 200C at 81-delta is giving Delta-adjusted leverage of 3.5x. So you take that 2.7% and multiply it by 3.5 to get *9% in the next month* if the trend holds. That's 'enough' return, isn't it? That's why I like ETFs. Take care.
Great, I'm glad you liked what you saw. And I meant to come back around and say that CSPs probably aren't what one would want to be doing against ETFs, even like these ones. But let me check before making that assumption: 30-delta at 30 days, can we agree on that as kind of a standard? Then SILJ pays pays 1.7% on its 27-delta 31DTE (from tomorrow) 31Oct25C. Apy that to about 20%. That's a serious yearly return for most investors. MAGS is doing 16%. And SMH 17%. But no, I play them with the leverage of long Calls. A year out, 80-delta. *This might change the way you invest, so read on at your own peril!* I'll use SMH because it has the tightest B/A spreads here AH. The 445DTE 18Dec260C at 81-delta is going for **89.60** at Midpoint. Spot is **322.66**. That means that instead of paying $32,266 for 100 shares, you can 'control' 100 shares for only $8,960. Divide to find that you can control 3.6 times as many shares for the same amount of money. But then the option only increases at 81% of the rate of shares, so multiply that by 0.81 to find that *you're getting 2.9x leverage to SMH.* And here's the fun part: you get to multiply that by whatever SMH does over the next week or month or whatever. SMH has done 11% over the last month. If [momentum persists](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927538X18303998?via%3Dihub#preview-section-references) and it does that *next* month, how does 32% in one month sound? So yeah, look into 80-delta LEAPS Calls as *stock substitutes.*
Not *technical* indicators per se, but I chose to respond when I saw you look for an up-trending 5y chart. Because that's what I do too: look at charts and say, "This thing is going up, let me do something with it." Only I don't look at 5 years, or even 1 year. *I sort by 3-month,* but *look* at 6-month charts. And then I don't look at anything else. (Only that they have options.) I just did that exercise over the weekend and picked **SILJ, SMH,** & **MAGS.** Look at their charts and ***note how smooth they are.*** Compare to MSOS & ETH, for example. Sure, those have gone up more than my 3, but do you think you could reliably write CSPs against those? You can use Barchart's ETF screener to find ETFs like I do. I made this little [Snipping Tool video tutorial ](https://imgur.com/a/barchart-etf-screening-VbwTWxy)the other day to show someone how. Cheers.
I’ve been investing in the devaluation of the dollar. It’s working out pretty well so far. Raw materials, energy, emerging markets, real estate, crypto. Excluding crypto it’s up about 5% in the past month and on par (or maybe just slightly behind) MAGS.
Me but I’m doing it through MAGS
The outperformance of digital assets is likely over imo. IBIT now moves like a MAG7 stock, and despite all of the hype about stablecoins, treasury companies, and ETF launches, ETHA is only ~3% ahead of the MAGS Magnificent 7 ETF YTD. IBIT is underperforming MAGS. YTD: * ETHA: +23% * IBIT: +19% * MAGS: +20% * MSFT: +22% * META: +30% * NVDA: +36% * GOOGL: +33% * ORCL: +96% * AVGO: +46% For digital assets to outperform, there need to be way more new buyers, and that's just not happening. Poor recent returns are keeping traders out because they can earn better risk-adjusted returns with stocks. Boomers are not buying digital assets either.
The outperformance of digital assets is likely over imo. IBIT now moves like a MAG7 stock, and despite all of the hype about stablecoins and treasury companies, ETHA is only ~3% ahead of the MAGS Magnificent 7 ETF YTD. YTD: * ETHA: +23% * IBIT: +19% * MSFT: +22% * META: +30% * NVDA: +36% * GOOGL: +33% * ORCL: +96% * AVGO: +46% For digital assets to outperform, there need to be way more new buyers, and that's just not happening. Poor recent returns are keeping traders out because they can earn better risk-adjusted returns with stocks.
Literally just sold half my nvda position to buy MAGS. Maybe I should buy $ROPE instead
GOOG is undervalued imo. MAGS for broader investing but still ride the wave. Risky: BTC but I truly believe it'll just keep going up. It'll be rocky and volatile, but up
I have different price targets and different time frames for each speculative call above. Qqq just too broad for my taste. MAGS is a fun one I’m trying in place of that, tho I’m sure they’ll be directionally similar.
I am so bullish I can’t contain myself anymore AMZN, META, ORCL, HOOD, GOOGL, and MAGS calls are locked and loaded. Any other suggestions?
I second **GDX** and **XME**. **XLU** has been good to me, but this little dip lately hasn't been fun. Mostly I wanted to second this: >I use LEAPS to add leverage to...ETFs. ETFs often get overlooked, but many of them actually have great returns: **GDX** 106% ytd, **XME** 52% And some don't: **XLU** 13% ytd But add the leverage of LEAPS Calls and watch out! For **XLU** you get 5.3 times leverage, adjusted for delta. So that ho-hum 13% becomes 68%, which is more than solid. Then sell low-delta Calls against them if you like, for a little extra juice. ETFS are quite a bit safer than individual stocks, because they don't have "single-issue risk." I use Barchart's ETF screener on 3-month performance (Has Options, Volume >1M shares), then look at their charts till I find **smooth** ones. Going up, of course, but 'smooth' takes precedence over return. Some others I like right now: **SIL/SILJ, MAGS, MCHI, XLC**
What if you used safer ETFs? 19Dec Calls at 80-delta on the likes of GDX, MAGS, and ASHR should pay nicely. Sell low-delta Calls against them if you want, for extra juice.
Oh not much, just that I've gotten away from selling ATM. And swung the other way entirely: selling at 16-delta, which is a 1 Standard Deviation move, or the Expected Move if your platform shows it. I just got done saying to someone in another thread that lots of things 'work' in options. And I think none are demonstrably "the best." But with GLD especially, my CCs at 30-delta, and then even at 25-20 delta, were getting consistently run over. And yes, I was rolling them, but never gaining enough ground to get them out ahead of the ETF. Point in case: I'm short a GLD 199DTE 333C that's ITM at 64-delta by 2.42. It's worth 20.00, which is $2,000 that could've been in my NetLiq. The 84-delta Call it's written against is going up faster, sure, but I'm only gaining (84 - 64) = 20 deltas, or 20% of GLD's move each day. I don't usually let them go out that long (60 days is kind of my max), but I never remember to save up enough cash in the acct to buy it back before I get down to it and go, "Crap. I forgot to buy this one back. Guess I'll roll it again." On another note, something I picked up on just this past week because someone mentioned it to me in another thread is TLT. Before you think, "It's just Treasuries, how exciting can it be?," look at its [1-year](https://imgur.com/a/VCYF8G9) and [1-month](https://imgur.com/a/HcV3j9e) charts. That rebound at the end is I think due to the upcoming rate cut expectation. The main thing I do these days that I don't think is in my OP is PMCCs: buy a Call a year out at 80-delta, sell a Call 30 days out at 30-delta. And for that, you don't necessarily need the underlying to go up much, but *you need it to not go down*. And I suspect that's going to be the case for Treasuries for the near term. So then watch this: Buy the TLT 489DTE 75C at 88-delta for **15.43**. Sell the 32DTE (from Monday) 28-delta 92C for **0.59**. ROI: 0.59 / 15.43 = 3.8% That's in 32 days, so annualize to about 43% if you could do it time after time. That's a LOT. AND it's Treasuries, which aren't going to drop quickly. AND that doesn't take into account any appreciation of the long Call. If you want MORE excitement, bring the long Call in to about 120 days: Buy the 16Jan84C at 80-delta for **6.65**. Then sell that same Call against it: (0.59 / 6.65)(365 / 32) = 101% apy, 'sort of'. So one thing I'm doing is settling down into a 5-ETF allocation which I'll rebalance monthly in general, or weekly if needed. GLD and TLT are going to have permanent 20% slots. Then I'll fill in the other 3 with things I pick. Take a look at the chart for MAGS to see the kind of price action I like. Take care!
Firstly, don't screen for *options*, screen for good **underlyings** first. Then Barchart (free) is good for that. ETFs are much safer than individual stocks, so I'd rather see you searching there. And don't worry, when you play ETFs with options, you'll get PLENTY of ROI. At Barchart: Across the top, click on ETFs. In the pulldown, left column, halfway down, click ETF Screener. DE-SELECT the Double-Long, Triple-Long, Double-Short, and Triple-Short. Leave Short checked. "Add a Filter" row: "Has Options" "Volume >1,000,000." Click "See Results." Change from "Filter View" to "Performance." Sort by "3M %Chg." Click the "flipcharts" button at the top right of the list. Set Chart Type to Line. At the left, leave the timeframe pulldown at "6M." Then skim through all the charts and find ones that are going up kind of smoothly. Don't look at the names, just the price action. (Because your love of crypto or whatever could influence your choices.) Ones that I think are subjectively "good": SIL/SILJ, XME, maybe GDX/GDXJ, MAGS I have real money in all those, playing them with options. Have fun!
Buy SPMO. Its the momentum index. It picks the winners for you. https://totalrealreturns.com/n/SPMO,VOO,MAGS Look here also. Mag 7, SP500, and SPMO compared.
I'll add on to u/Krammsy's reply and say Yes also. But what is a "PMCC farm"? And it sounds like you may have too many positions on. I know that it's preached to us that we diversify ("diversify away the risk"), but at some point your return will just be that of SPY or whatever. To get excess return, I think you need to focus on the best-in-class investments. For me, that means 10 stocks, or 5 ETFs, as I laid out above. It sounds like you're thinking properly about non-correlation, but I'm not sure that doing it to an extreme is worth the extra effort. Here's how I do it, in case this helps: Running the same ETF screen as I did above, "has options," "500k volume", "sorted by 3-month performance," then just looking at charts, I start picking tickers like this: XME, SIL, --whoops-- "Isn't XME heavy in precious metals? It is, but keep it for now...GX "Silver Miners"... GDX "Gold Miners" ... SVXY "I don't like playing the VIX" ... MAGS, ASHR, KWEB ... "Whoops, there's another China." Like that, at a macro level, I certainly don't dig into their holdings. And to your last question: Yes. About 30 - 45 minutes each evening is what I spend across 3 accounts with 24 positions, though some are duplicates of each other. Mainly the 'tending' is setting up new CCs for tomorrow because the ones I had on came off with their GTC BTC orders. And then checking that the underlyings are behaving and that my long Calls haven't lost too much. It sounds to me like you're very much on the right track, but maybe back off on the analytics a bit. It really can be as simple as setting up those GTC BTC orders and selling new short Calls. And cutting the occasional position and screening for a new one. And the "screening" part, if it's mid-week, is usually just plowing freed-up cash into the best-performing instrument in that account. On the weekends I'll spend more time screening for new things and thinking strategically. Best of luck to you!
I've come to find that options on literally anything that doesn't +20% daily will lose you money, all my options are on OPEN now with my long positions on MAGS and QQQ
I've been where you are, and I could just tell you to stop, but you won't. No offence meant, we've all had to try it. If this journal will be a page-per-day kind of thing, go out about 6 months and pencil this in: "Buy Calls at 80-delta on quality underlyings. At least 3 months out, but a year is better." Then try to forget that and do your best with CSPs (and the CCs you should try to avoid, ala u/ScottishTrader, but won't always be able to). When you tally up your performance at that 6m point, compare it to any of these ETFs from now till then: XME, VNM, SIL, GDX, MAGS Nothing especially special about those 5, they're just going up smoothly over the past 5 months since Liberation Day. Calculate each one's 6-month returns, average them out, then multiply that by 4. Because that's the *minimum* multiplier you would've gotten from 80-delta Calls on them. Good luck on your journey! (And just to hold myself accountable, I'm going to put a 3-month RemindMe on this. 3 months because it will be long enough to prove the point, and short enough that I *might* remember what I was talking about.)
Great, I picked up on some sort of cosmic brainwave I suppose. But you lost me at "stagflation environment" and "the actual \[right\] thing to do right now." You'll sound smarter if you think and talk like that, but meanwhile there are pragmatic people out here just trading whatever the market provides, regardless of what some kind of "environment" or "paradigm" people name it. Did you know that's it's alright to pick stocks and ETFs simply because they're going up? It is. Do you have a 5th grader handy? Explain to them just a little bit about charts and how this "thing" was worth that a year ago, but now it's worth this today. Then show them a chart of a thing that's maybe flat or even going down a bit, but that "should" go up "when the current macroenvironment is fully priced into the market," or whatever other esoteric things the pundits say. Tell them that their allowance will be put into one of those "things," and that at the end of a month they can pick a new "thing" if they want. See which chart they pick. That's momentum-investing of course ("performance chasing" if you're less diplomatic), but it works as well as any other method out there. Do this for me when you have time: go to [Barchart.com](http://Barchart.com) and find their ETF Screener. De-select all the leveraged ones. You can keep the 1x inverse ones. Add the filter Has Options. You should get about 1280 of them. Change the view from Filter View to Performance. Sort by 3M %Chg. Scroll down until you get to the ones that have 'only' done about 30% over the past 3 months (that's 120% apy, remember). Start shopping there. At the top right of the list, click on "flipcharts." Change the Template to Line. Leave the duration at 6M. Across the top, scroll over to XME. 30.8% over the last quarter, and I'm in it, so I have no qualms recommending it. Grab your 5th-grader and start flipping through charts. XME is good in my opinion, but ask your 5th-grader. 4 later, XTL is good. RING is good. ECNS, XSD, CHAT, SIXG, METV, PIE, MAGS, etc. As you're going through, don't even look at the names; just look at the price action and figure out what that's telling you. And *don't* overlay any market sentiments you may have. And *especially* don't let your/our primitive primate brain tell you that "they've gone up too fast so they HAVE to go down soon." They don't. Really try to overcome that; I think it's the biggest obstacle people have to getting into good stocks. It's why people have been sitting on the sidelines for 5 years with Nvidia, for example, waiting for it to be "properly valued" or some such drivel. The price action tells you all you need to know. Believe in it.
Brain dead day for me, roll back to using like 60-70k margin up from 0. Prolly go for MAGS because it keeps making me lots of money but big banks are tasty right now
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SPMO and MAGS ftw Check out total returns on those bad boys
Wouldn't a 20% google drop be, uh, bad? Between Class A and C shares it makes up around 4.25% of the S&P and almost 8% of Nasdaq. A bunch of ETFs (MAGS, XLC, FCOM, BHCP, GXPC, IXP) are over 10% weight on them. A 20% drop would shit in a *lot* of pies.
If you want to go all-in on one security and can't decide between those two, MAGS would be a better option. Everything on MAGS wouldn't be the best option, but it would be better than what you're describing.
MAGS hitting ATHs this week, actually retarded post
Exactly that's why I cherry pick since I don't like Tesla's volatility. No reason to buy MAGS and pay their expense fee while you can buy each of the stock individually
Correct. But if you bought only TSM you would have beaten MAGS as well.
Well if you talk about etf then why not buy MAGS instead? It's a lost opportunity to buy Spy in this bull market.