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Any advice on what to YOLO on this week?
How I am Positioning myself in the Markets going into 2024
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What's a better long term buy now. BMY vs. PFE?
Seeking suggestions on companies to swap DIS, PFE and BMY with in year end tax loss harvesting
$RNXT $1.00 +25.63% #Cancer #Treatment #Research
$PFE Pfizer down 8% since Cramer’s buy call 12 days ago
What stocks are under additional pressure in December due to tax loss harvesting?
Cramer shuffling papers this morning over $PFE
@PFE Pfeizer 5.5% Yield with January Effect and Weight loss pill testing
Why wouldn't you invest a large amount of money into Pfizer right now and ride it out for a few years?
Long time investment, estimated rocketing by 2025 [CYBN]
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$RGBP Must read mRNA #FDA in play!
Down 11% on taxable account. Planning on buying a house in the next 2.5-3 years. Should I sell or change strategies?
I told you so 5 months ago - NO RECESSION NO PIVOT
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$SGEN spread at 15% now looking like steal of a Merger play
What to do for Pfizer's Earnings tomorrow morning
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Completed head and shoulders on PFE? Time to short?
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Pfizer, AbbVie, GSK, Eli Lilly among drugmakers to raise prices (NYSE:PFE)
Thoughts on shorting MRNA and PFE
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Even PFE will rip 10%. Mango magic
I regrat buying PFE 
UNH future value dead end trap similar to PFE, paypal. year and years of pain. get out now!
Pfizer consumers may be rock solid down under, but not the stock. 3 year PFE chart has been in steady decline. I bought in @26 thinking it had bottomed, but I was wrong and sold @25. I'm not touching it again, unless it hits 20.
I've been catching the PFE knife since you were in diapers
I've been investing in majority index funds but some individual holdings for 30 years now because I enjoy the work the latter takes. I initially started buying stocks as a way to learn the markets and finance better and it turns out I enjoyed it and did well with it. But you're right, strictly index investing is the safer bet. But I like the added risk. For me, value was key. Doesn't matter how great a product or company is, if the share price is overvalued it's not a buy. To determine the value, I trust in analyst ratings, and very heavily weight the Morningstar rating for a holding in my decisions. Dividend payers was my second criteria, and especially now that we're retired. My top ten holdings follow. If I remove AMZN and GOOG from the mix, my other 22 holdings earn about 6.2% dividends, much more if I calculate yield on cost. I'm sitting on 30% gains, double that in my taxable brokerage which I'm selling down in retirement at 0% LTCG before our social security and RMDs kick in and income goes back up. ET O AMZN BTI EPD PM VZ PFE GSK
Smells like a good PFE short.
Many people hold stocks for the long term. So on paper when the stock goes down they might be holding it at less than what they paid for it. And other than dividends not making any cash flow. Enter selling puts and calls. This creates instant cash flow and can continue while the market it’s down or until such time as the stock recovers. Example: I own 2400 shares of MSTY at an average cost of $27. I’ve been selling calls at $27 and $29 and picking up some cash flow (along with huge dividends) while waiting for the price to recover. Same with DOW, PFE, INTC, and many others. Is it free money? No but it’s close. I made $45k selling calls and puts last year and this year it looks like I will exceed $60k. Options for me is all about cash flow. I don’t really care what the market does.
What’s PFE, like 8% dividend? Ex on 9th. Do not. Repeat, do not.
PFE = Perfect Fuking Example of what not to buy.
My PFE going to $0 
What’s your goal? I buy dividend stocks and ETFs, and don’t care about taxes, for instance. For healthcare, I only own Pfizer (PFE). CVS and a couple others are being sued by the DOJ, so you might want to avoid those for now, maybe wait to see if the price tanks and then buy.
I also have PFE and BMY bought at deep low.
IMo, LLY vs NVO, Novo Nordisk is better choice for long term value. I started accumulating NVO when it was going down, now it is almost 12% up, holding long. Same time, I bought both PFE and BMY for dividend purpose, but they are just 5%-6%, holding long.
He is going to grab it by the PFE
Many ways. PFE yields 7% on dividend
If you're not buying PFE before interest rates get cut, do you even have a brain?
Why he probably scooped up a bunch of PFE…
Back in January I exited the margin I had. I sold calls on all my positions. April 7th I picked up margin again and bought a few positions and sold calls on them. So far I''ve beaten the sp500 for the year and I think the positions I bought are solid. I think the sp500 will see a gain of 3-5% for the whole year. My only tech is msft, amzn, and a small NVDA position. I have a large PFE position and a broad mix of defensive stocks. If the market goes sideways from here I will profit a great deal from the calls and dividends rolling in. If the market drops it will have to drop a huge amount before I'm actually in the hole.
Even PFE is green in this GaY market
VKTX performing well lately. PFE could be taking it out...
What is happening with PFE?
Thanks for the quick summary dude (or dudet)...I will need to take a look later tonight. PFE is certainly undervalued and the reason for warranted. GLPs are all the rage lol, but I have read only in brief on GIPR.
Nice pop for PFE finally. Saw they had a nice EPS surprise. Excited to read earnings transcript and see what’s up.
I'm kind of an idiot. Can someone explain to me why PFE (pfizer) never goes up. It's beat EPS by a huge margin 4 quarters in a row. And the challenges around lawsuits are mostly resolved or small.
VKTX. PFE looking at an obesity acquisition/partnership again per earnings announcement
PFE is the next Walgreens. a stock that gaps down, remains there for a while, gaps down, remains there for awhile, gaps down foever and ever and ever with zero trend up for years and years. as the stock trends down more, the divvy will exceed 10%. then the divvy will be cut, just like walgreens. then the stock will trend down more and more and more until that divvy hits 10% then the divvy will be cut completely and there will be rumors of by out as the stock approches a 30 year low with a stock price below the great financial crisis around 5. this will probably take 1-2 more years, but im sure it will head there. dead stock. dead company. maybe be bought by johnson and johnson or abbvie?
Honestly I hope UPS dumps on earning, I'll pick some up eventually if they don't cut that dividend. Issue is gonna be EPS / forward guidance and that sweet P/E PFE
401k. I have cashed out a year ago at 4400. I am all into the sp500 index at 4900. No cash Ira and brokerage account. I went in SIRI and PFE when market was 5500. 10% cash.
I have msft, PFE, OXY, pep, o, IMKTA, carr, tgt, XLI, schd, voo, amzn, and TLT for the lions share of my portfolio I'm part swing trade part dividend investor so don't read too much into those positions as being ideal for dividend investing. Some of those positions are small and some large. Each of them made sense when I opened them and for the most part have worked out. One thing you will probably notice is no qqq and my tech exposure is limited msft, amzn, and voo. If you had seen my account last year I had Costco, Mcd, sbux, NVDA, ko, and a bunch of other things. I ditched most of it back in December and went into a holding position for a few months. April 7th I deployed most of my capital as I think that was close to the bottom. The day I did that I went down my list of ideas and bought what made sense at that moment. I figure over the next few months I will wind down the TLT position for the most part and look for other opportunities.
How much work do you want to make for yourself in this? If you're just picking something else without a good numbers based reason based on some time consuming research, you're not helping things. Just stick with VOO. But if you don't mind a couple hours a week plus maybe a few more hours per month at earnings season, you might benefit from what you propose. Namely, if you're buying only something highly rated AND at a good value, then *maybe* you'll be better off. No way to know until 30 years later when you can't fix it. Oh, so along with the added work it takes, you have to be comfortable with the distinct possibility that you did worse that just VOO would have done. I do as you describe and have for a bit over 25 years. In my retirement, it's my main interest/hobby. I use Morningstar ratings (free at your public library, or subscribe to MS Premium) to determine the rating/value. E.g., all my 22 or so holdings 1 just dropped to two stars (sell, I might have to shift that one off the list, we'll see), three are hold (\*\*\*) seven are buy (\*\*\*\*) and five are strong buy (\*\*\*\*\*). The five stars I currently own are: GSK WU GOOG PFE O Generally, if I'm adding to the list I'll do so with only five star holdings.
Buy SLV long term options! Also on semiconductor is undervalued by a lot! Gld is also good to buy on dips! But try more longer term like a month out! I also like Moderna, Merck & PFE I think it’s also under valued!
I am 150% stock (using margin) on PFE and SIRI.
Cries in not buying PFE puts. They cancelled the drug because 1 trial subject had a liver issue.
MRNA's the one that gets ruthlessly beat up...PFE somehow gets it less
I’m shocked no one has said it yet. Hands down the best dividend paying stock for reinvestments is Pfizer (PFE).
I don’t know if I right or wrong, but at this point I just keep buying high dividends stocks. My bank pays 3.8 % so I going to PFE, CVX or whatever pays more than 3.8. with this 🥭💩 look like the money is going to be sitting there for 4 years.
you can give it a rest, bro. I'm not buying shitty ass PFE.
Ive been loading up on SLV leaps, and selling PMCCs on them for income. I like the prices and I believe the asset will not drop 25% in a year the way inflation is headed. Leaps on regular equity Im only looking at as an income play with equities I trust a little more. Proctor and Gamble, PFE, and some others that could hold value in recession.
"So you lobby politicians to create regulations that only established companies like yours can afford to comply with, effectively blocking any new competitors? Regulatory capture at its finest!" $CMCSA $T $JPM $BAC $XOM $CVX $PFE
Im surprised pfizer is up today after pulling their GLP1 candidate. They have been getting their ass kicked on GLP1. You have to ask when either Viking or Altimmune is going to get bought, they've both got GLP1's in phase 3 that are promising and potentially better for certain indications than what is available. Altimmune's candidate Pemviditude shows signs of removing fat from the liver, which is an amazing thing if it works. The market cap is $340M - it sort of makes no sense for PFE to not buy ALT or even Viking if they thought ALT's drug wasn't going to happen.
Instead of providing exit liquidity, grab up MRK, BMY, JNJ, PFE, ABBV, and actually get rich cause these are the type of players with the actual money to benefit from AI drug discovery, and you can bet that they already are researching it.
$PFE bails on weight loss drug and goes higher
Turns out skinny pills cause liver damage. Nobody shocked that a simple pill is not the answer to weight loss. PFE is dead.
It probably doesn't have that much more downside at this point (I don't think it's getting to book value at around $15.5), but people have tried to call bottoms in this on here since 2023 and keep expecting it to then perform like a good company when it just isn't. It's just a stagnant company that has overpaid for M&A in an attempt to buy growth while not really achieving noteworthy success via internal development. A couple of years ago, people kept saying buy PFE over LLY because "IT'S CHEAP AND IT HAS AN OBESITY DRUG TOO!" It did look cheap and it still does, but it's an example of cheap for a reason. They stopped development on their obesity drug Danuglipron in December 2023 because it was intolerable to such a degree that it had a discontinuation rate of over 50% - tried for an oral version and further development of that has been stopped. In 2023, the stock was impacted by the trial failure (and PFE at that point was about 50% off the high.) In 2025 with the stock down about 25% further, you might not have that much stock impact at this point - with PFE's record and the stock being obliterated, expectations probably were low to begin with.
New CEO, new BD team and a detailed vision for the future of the company's M & A (PFE has been mediocre at best with capital allocation, leading to overpaying for some purchases like SGEN while others like GBT went badly - that drug was pulled from market and billions flushed) just for starters. A complete review of the state of the current pipeline and focusing on a few strengths, seeking opportunities to partner or sell anything else. In 2023, the company set a $10B target for obesity drug sales and then proceeded to have shit results for Danuglipron in December 2023 where they halted further study but kept going with an oral formulation which...just had further development halted after liver injury in a participant. Buy VKTX, which is substantially off highs and undervalued and get going on participating in obesity with something that works: I think if they bought that about 75% off highs, you'd actually see PFE go up nicely. (VKTX is up 17% pre-mkt after PFE's miss.) Biotech in general has been obliterated in recent months: refresh the pipeline, which clearly isn't exciting anyone (especially after another failure on obesity.) Cut the dividend. I remember once someone on WSB joked when asked what GE does, "they make dividends for old people." Pfizer feels similar - as long as the dividend keeps getting paid, the shareholder base doesn't really say much but underneath it's not a well-functioning company. The moment Immelt left GE and the dividend was cut, the spell was broken and people didn't like what they saw. Pfizer needs to be a better pharma company first and foremost and less a mediocre dividend play for undemanding investors who see a high yield and somehow don't pay any attention to an absymal record over the last couple decades.
Pfizer, $PFE, scraps daily weight loss pill after liver injury in one patient
There was a guy here in 2023 that went long PFE and 30 year bonds. RIP
So can I finally hope for my $PFE to go up instead of perpetually down?
If $22.63 is your average then that's not bad. But you ARE overexposed to it. It's a dilemma because your cost is so low. I think if I was you I would actually just get rid of all (or at least most) of it now, take the $150 or whatever loss, and reallocate it into an index ETF, almost doesn't matter which one. PFE just has no real bright spots on its horizon other than the fact that it's gotten so killed.
Unless you rely on the dividend income from PFE, I would get rid of a lot of it if it ever gets back near $30 again. You're way overexposed to PFE and it is a dog. I have a bunch of it from long ago. Too much.
Respect, I’ve pulled out so I hope PFE goes to the moon for your sake.
I sold 90% of my 401k at the end of March. Saved 10% dip. Put it in a fixed 3.5%. Leaving it there. Think Q3 is when we see ramifications. And I think we are in for more dips. I also don't think things are back to "normal" for some time - years? All that volatility. I'll trade options in my IRA. Cash secured puts & covered calls - of things in ok with owning/selling - at prices I'm ok with buying/selling. Between both accounts, I've got 60%+ in cash or fixed, the rest in a mix of stocks and funds. I'll buy a few things on dips. But small amounts (PFE, XLE, OXY). I'm also considering selling more if there are sudden spikes. No rush to jump back in until stability is back.
Idc. I continue to buy PFE and SIRI. Their businesses are still profitable and the stock price is attractive.
I can buy more PFE at the discounted price
wait till he says pharma tariffs, PFE LLY on death watch
Why does PFE do dividends instead of stock buy backs is beyond me, just insanely stupid financial management
I jumped in on PFE today, will look to add more if it drops. Thoughts?
My two pharma sticks are PFE and BMY, both down 2% again while market up great
The market isn't pricing the company as bankrupt, but the company is being priced as if their pipeline isn't great and the market doesn't have trust in their ability to do M&A given a history of overpaying for growth. They need new management yesterday. The company is a stagnant dinosaur and needs a revamp to the same degree that GE needed one post Immelt. Book value is $15.56, probably doesn't get there - if it starts to get close to there ($19's?) then you probably do see more of a push for new management and then you'd finally see the dividend cut but probably not suspended entirely. There's probably a bounce here somewhere with the RSI at a very, very, very oversold 20 and maybe it's a decent one. But without changes, I really don't see why the next decade for PFE doesn't look the same as the last decade or two.
Careful with PFE div. They could cut it.
I bought 175 shares of PFE this morning. The divvy is up to 7% now at this price.
yeah, might be mine too. Looking at PG, KO, C, PFE, abbvie.
I'm eyeing PFE, DD, DOW tomorrow...
I don't think tariffs will hurt too much. PFE has plants all over the world.
The previous quarter needed March 31st which was prior to these tariffs taking place. Thereto will not have effect on previous quarter. Likely they will guide down for FY during Q1 earnings. PFE has fair value estimate of roughly 9-13 per share given this news. In addition, they will have no choice but to cut the dividend.
Holding into INTC and PFE LEAPS. Will need to look into and buy some other ones.
Got a ticker example? I've got a long time horizon and I'm happy buying PFE at this price but it's the only pharma stock I have
My three biggest positions, roughly 20% of my portfolio each is GOOGL, RKLB, PFE. I bought more of all 3 today, mostly GOOGL premarket at 140. I don't know if these are going to be green anytime soon but my fundamental views of the company have not changed and my time horizon is decades. I'm gonna keep buying the dip, the dippidy dip and diddly dip. Check in a few years if I'm homeless but if not i think I'll look back at today ans realize I opened one of my best long term positions
There was a whole, “we will just have to live with the virus”, and also a “it will come in waves”, there were all sorts of theories, for a time we were going to have to take a test every time we got on an international flight and it nearly went to domestic, anyway this current crisis has less visible solution, no PFE
PFE down 4%. I've strongly disliked the company on here for a couple of years, but it's getting to the point where its ability to do badly during both good times and bad times is sort of impressive.
> The amount of layoffs, company closures, and the resulting drop in consumer spending will be astounding. This has been happening for over 20 years as it is. That is why the middle class has been shrinking and for a long time looked like it wont come back. For the first time pretty much ever a republican is trying to stop it. I 1000% believe if a democrat had done the exact same thing people here would be happy but this is reddit. The left would rather sink the ship because of TDS than see America prosper under the orange man. > In fact, if this results in the strengthening of trade relations between our former trade partners, sans the US, that could spell disaster for not only the segment of our economy that relies on international trade, but will be felt throughout our whole economy for generations to come. Why would this happen though? The US market is to big to ignore and if a company like BMW want to sell cars here (and they do) they can build them here. This is the worse case scenario that reddit seams to want to happen but I think in reality has a near zero chance of happening. Short term maybe but I honestly dont want the tariffs to go away. Pharmaceuticals in particular are like 75% non US made and that is a national security threat and I own a lot of PFE. > But I don’t see this as any different than a Democrat raising taxes by over 20% How would raising taxes by 20% bring back jobs though? US companies will not bring back job voluntary if they can can make more money outsourcing. Tariffs and tax breaks are the only way that I can think of to bring back jobs. People dont want to work at burger king all their lives. When I was in school people did fast food jobs and loved it as it was fun to work at and gave spending money. Thats what a high school job should be but go into one now and look at the 5 miserable 40+ year olds who hate everything about it because there is little else. Reddit can talk trash about manufacturing jobs but they are a step up for millions.
NFLX, PM, KO, PEP, MCD, EA, and PFE are green. So people will be watching Netflix all day, while chain smoking cigarettes, washing the nicotine down with soda and snacks, eating McDonald’s for all three meals, getting cancer, and taking Pfizer drugs
Absolutely unreal. I always have at least a few green tickers on my WL no matter how bad things are, but the best I got right now is PFE at -0.5%. Everything else is -2% or worse. If I wasn’t suddenly so poor, this would be very entertaining. 
Yay my PFE might go back to $26 /s
Why MSFT? If you have to invest now, I think stocks like VZ, PFE are safer n' better ones. Just look at their juicy dividends. Personally I am holding cash.
MRK PFE and MRNA all great longs at these levels imo
that's what I'm thinking. I think he might be kind to GM, F, and obviously TSLA (although TSLA is toast IMO until they get a new CEO) tonight. Looking also at PFE and X. He wants to look like a hero, and will make shit up to move the market. But anything good will be short term. (I'm a long but came here to get ideas for a short term trade)
PFE is getting smoked. at the same time, their fundementals are imrpoving, they keep raising guidance. yet the stock trades like it's going bankrupt with a forward pe of 8 and divvy of 7% (that is at little risk of going away)
Throw in Pfizer & Moderna in there too. Absolutely getting obliterated. Pfizer hit a 15 year low today. Really interested to see how low these stocks can go. Can’t wait to buy CRSP, PFE, MRNA at $5 next week. Because according to market sentiment, these stocks are heading to $1 🤷♂️
F it, bought 10K worth of PFE. Dividend 7% and fairly safe, improving fundementals, forward PE of 8. "dinosaur company" - yeah yeah yeah, but their fudementals seem to getting better, great divvy etc.
I think PFE can be trading in the 9-12 range by end of year. With this much pessimism around pharma and their pipeline in question I don’t see what the moat here is anymore.
Welp, nice run there BMY. PFE, just when I thought it couldn't go any lower, it does. Sheesh.
Hold cash for a while until there is clarity in policies, Than invest in Value companies PYPL, PFE, GOOGL, AMZN, DELL, etc
My portfolio: 30% cash 50% This: KHC, DOW, RVN, NKE, SWK, MNMD, DDD, PFE OTM calls expriring 2026 The rest: $46 X calls expiring in 60 days and those are my only hope for 2025 profit at this point. Last year was a lot more fun. 
I normally view $PFE as an acquirer of technology and not innovative, and have stayed away. However, as it is near a 5 year low - it got me thinking to toss a few dollars at it.
This older people keeps buying using his dividends. Got 3 shares of NVDA today and 20 shares of PFE. I expect this to be a loser year, but I will keep doing what I have for the past 4 decades.
I'm currently DCA'ing into GOOGL, RKLB and my baby PFE. I have no idea where these are going in the near term craziness ans I don't care. I will continue to add unless something fundamental changes. In my humble, not by any means expert opinion, Google is the safer play. Rocket lab has the most room for growth and pfe is suffering a lot of headwinds right now ans while i think it has room to grow I am more interested in that dividend getting close to 7%
Agree, Monday could be bonkers with people setting up in advance, plus any commentary from the administration as it winds up throwing gas on the fire. Not sure on the announcement timing Tuesday, so best bet could be to buy late Monday with Wed or Thurs expiration. That’s the other question for me, for industries being targeted who is likely to get hit hardest, US, ex-US, or both? GM/F or VWAGY/TM? INTC or TSMC? PFE or say NVS/GAK/etc.? Or could one rise and one fall?
PFE tho 