TSLA

OhhPeeee

AMZN and TSLA both on some retardium today

moorhound

| Rank | Company | Total Market Cap | TTM Price-to-Sales (P/S) Ratio | |---|---|---|---| | 1 | Nvidia (NVDA) | $5.13 Trillion | ~ 19.8x | | 2 | Alphabet / Google (GOOGL) | $4.52 Trillion | ~ 10.4x | | 3 | Apple (AAPL) | $4.35 Trillion | ~ 9.6x | | 4 | Microsoft (MSFT) | $2.96 Trillion | ~ 8.6x | | 5 | SpaceX (SPCX) | $2.50 Trillion | ~ 129.5x | | 6 | Taiwan Semiconductor (TSM) | $2.29 Trillion | ~ 9.5x | | 7 | Broadcom (AVGO) | $1.88 Trillion | ~ 14.5x | | 8 | Meta Platforms (META) | $1.52 Trillion | ~ 6.2x | | 9 | Tesla (TSLA) | $1.15 Trillion | ~ 14.8x | | 10 | Amazon (AMZN) | $1.08 Trillion | ~ 3.5x |

FrostingOk2692

Look, if Elon launch a bunch more cars into space I think TSLA could manage to moon too.

AllianceOrTheHorde

What does TSLA have going for it? SpaceX at least is very cool, but TSLA hasn't done anything big in like 10 years. It has no real reason to have such an evaluation

FrostingOk2692

Quick, rotate from SPCX into TSLA, and then rotate from TSLA to SPX in ten minutes. Continue doing this for eternity.

OhhPeeee

Let me guess, TSLA now rips when everything else dumps🙄

Xzlk

It’ll pass AMZN & MSFT imo, then Armageddon when the market tries to find fair value before lockup expires. Them and TSLA probably need to raise cash this year.

tnguyen5057

SPCX is the new TSLA

housemoneyrocketship

Just go TSLA. Get it over with.

Bluesquare9

TSLA is trash I can’t believe I bought 500 calls when it was at 450.

darth_scion

I hate to say it but we need a TSLA shrecker

Gimmetbow

Why isn’t TSLA moving

Gimmetbow

Why isn’t TSLA moving lol

WocketWaccoon

Remember when Enron promised his faithful TSLA cult for years that they would get a special reward when SPCX ipo’s? And they got nothing LMFAO!!!!

Aromatic-Ad-6244

Crazy how usually TSLA pumps 5% on days like these. SpaceX truly is the child elon wanted.

Icy-Motor-8519

Wen SPCX and TSLA gonna merge in to one giant turd?

Allout-Okarun

“Massive cup and handle on TSLA with a 765 target” wtf is Lee Yang smoking

MrFisher_

TSLA just not moving today huh

aftherith

TSLA weak af. No longer daddy's favorite.

Valkorion335786

TSLA only +0.72% on the day is hilarious

RedNationn

Elon abandoned TSLA long ago, hence why the stock has gone no where in half a decade…poor Elmo bag holders it’s ok they probably love losing money for their supreme leader

ComprehensivePost280

TSLA plz go down you POS

Speeder172

No shit sherlock, like TSLA

skrid54321

->states objectively true fact (TSLA overvalued on fundamentals) ->states that they have no idea how long it will take to properly value "Why not buy incredibly theta sensitive instrument?" I know I shouldn't expect better but come on.

Fieryhotsauce

At least some of TSLAs value was down to association with SpaceX, now they're separate TSLA is gonna drop like a rock

ConfidentAd9582

I’m pretty sure people who’ve been long holding on to TSLA have been pretty happy. Leave your personal biases out of it.

_freckles__

It does not make sense, the people kept saying same for TSLA , and it has gone up 25x and also gone down 80%, then gone up 25x again and gone down 80%, repeat, This is just a gamblers stock

zion-messenger

You can either believe on TSLA or on SPCX... believing in both is stupid regarded

DaGimpster

My opinion is they will merge, but he will actually merge SpaceX into Tesla: 1.) The regulatory environment is currently as friendly to Musk as it might ever be so he'd be a fool not to merge sooner than later (in my mind). 2.) Musk currently owns 42% of SpaceX's equity and controls 85% of its votes. If Tesla buys SpaceX using a stock swap, the sheer volume of new shares handed to Musk for his SpaceX equity would mathematically make him the undisputed majority owner of Tesla. This would finally end any institutional grumbling over his vision, financial compensation and whatever else bothers him. 3.) He gets his capital-intensive space and AI ventures heavily subsidized by passive index fund capital without having to prove profitability first. Disclosure: I have opened a small (to me) speculative position on both TSLA and SPCX due to my conviction on this outcome.

p3dal

It could be the same... as 2022, when shares of TSLA dropped 69%, almost a meme in itself.

Meinteil2123

Hey if people wanna throw their money away, let them. Its not like TSLA didnt go through multiple splits because of how high it went in value. People shorting this because of tribalism is both sad and hilarious.

ComprehensivePost280

TSLA puts

JeyJonsoon

The post asks "how much future is too much" like there's a rational ceiling. Tesla proves there isn't... TSLA traded on robotaxis, FSD, the Semi, none of which showed up on time, and the stock didn't care because the narrative was the product. SpaceX is almost the opposite for a bear case, it's actually delivering, Starlink revenue is real, Falcon 9 owns launch. If the market 10x'd a company on stuff that didn't happen, it'll gladly pay up for one where it is. Future doesn't get priced on a belief, and overvalued only matters the day when it goes down, LMAO.

iamthetimby

Can we get one of them TSLA retard pumps?

SpiderWil

Some1 said TSLA is gonna hit $475 bc of this bullshit SPCX popping

EnigmaSpore

xAI is a loser in the ai race. They’re renting lower quality compute capacity to others because they arent using it. They arent using it because they have low demand for xAI. They will not come close at all. With that being said, expect the stock to be irrational and can still pump regardless of revenue because the entities that want to make $ with Musk can pump this for a long time, like TSLA.

Fun-Sundae4060

I was an early TSLA investor since 2018, Reddit always believed TSLA was doomed to go bankrupt. It skyrocketed. Bitcoin depends. I frequent the BTC subreddit but simply go by my own cycle timings which contradicts directly with the posts there which are always doomer or euphoria

george_alto

They will merge so that Elon can run everything under one umbrella - that is the main driver and why it makes sense. That gets rid of all those questions and issues that keep arising when Elon is spending most of his time on one of his public company's and not the other. If they are all under one company, that goes away. But the challenge will be the unprecedented compensation plan approved by TLSA shareholders that could be worth up to **$1 trillion**. If they merge, what happens to that compensation package - they'll have to create a new one that factors in everything that the new company is doing and not just TSLA.

Iunatic

This sub hates TSLA these days. SPCX must be their worst nightmare 🤣

Fun-Sundae4060

You can find them in my profile. Extremely profitable. Examples are TSLA long, TSLA short, BTC long, BTC short, ETH long, TQQQ

RealDealKeel

TSLA goin back to 380 would be sick

vermilli21

Can TSLA do a retard pump to 439 today. That would be great

dFrame3070

TSLA shareholders will be sacrificed to the new god (SPCX)

FrostingOk2692

Damn, SPCX really is sucking all the wind out of TSLA. Wonder when the merger is gonna happens.

MagazinePrior

It’s obviously overpriced using fundamentals, but at the same time the market doesn’t seem to care much about fundamentals. And if anyone seriously thinks it won’t be higher than it is now in the next 5-10 years, idrk what to say. It seems obvious to me that it’ll grow, but there are a lot of people who legitimately think it’s a “meme stock.” I get hating Elon, but did yall learn nothing from TSLA? That all said, I didn’t buy any. I think there will likely be a correction at some point later in the year (likely around Anthropic/OpenAI’s ipos), but I doubt it drops that much. And if you’re holding it for the long term, short term volatility doesn’t matter. I probably would’ve gotten a few if I could’ve at ipo, but I’m not chasing the post ipo hype (And as I was typing this, a trigger alert hit at market open that it cross $170 lol so take that as you will)

greenpride32

X/Twitter and xAI are failures and got rolled into SPCX. TSLA I wouldn't call it a failure, but it will be very far from the company many hoped it would be. Revenue for 2024/25/26 is essentially flat. Compare that to other true tech megacaps who are growing top line at 15-200%. 20m cars sold per year by 2030? Giggle. It's doing 1.6-1.7m year at no meaningful growth. Story changed from EV to energy to robotaxi to robots. But each of those sectors already has strong competitors and most will likely be commodity markets. So I think you'll see TSLA's "failure" aslo be rolled into SPCX.

Fire-Lion6

if i had the power to send any stock/crypto to 0 instantly, the correct answer is probably bitcoin just because that would be hilarious but sending TSLA/SPCX to 0 would be soooo satisfying.

Kranoath

TSLA because Elon needs your help

HoneyBadger552

OP should try that with SPCX and TSLA. its a winner

AnEyeElation

Not sure what your point here is, dumb fuck. TSLA clearly has positive EPS. Do you think these companies are doing all this capex for fun? The point of investments is making a return.

ap1618

No question, TSLA is mostly just a marketing phenomenon

Im_A_MechanicalMan

You could say the same about TSLA and a host of other companies ripping. Enthusiasm matters most in the market.

MelonBeefChop

SpaceX gonna merge with Tesla, TSLA shares will be converted to SPCX & pump till $300 with regard strength

dvdmovie1

"Does anyone here think that this is like a bubble waiting to pop?" Yes, a large % of this subreddit. The problem becomes it's been that way for years now - to the point where if the majority of this sub started to love the market I'd be concerned and start selling. You've had two pullbacks in 15 months and at the exact bottom of the larger of the two (April 2025), this sub was apocalyptic in terms of sentiment. Both times, this sub doomposted through the decline and all the way up the rebound. If someone is selectively bearish and re-assesses when it doesn't go that way within a reasonable time period, great. If someone is bearish and never re-assesses, that's an issue. "TSLA is insanely overvalued too. " And people have argued that for many, many years. The last two years have seen a decline in deliveries and yet the stock is up over the last year. Navigate the market that is, not the one you think it should be or want it to be. Too many people think they know better than the market and get caught up in being contrarian. Look up the example of John Hussman, who has been bearish since 2009. There's the phrase "don't fight the fed", but when there's an energy crisis in March and it's very clear that dips are being bought and the market ramps on any headline, people keep wanting to stand in the way of a wall of money that wants to enter the market. Whether one thinks that's right or not doesn't matter. Eventually it will stop/slow/etc but nobody here knows when that is. Lastly, we've had what, 4 years of above goal inflation now? The cost of living has gone up significantly and people have run to assets yet people on here seem to constantly want to sell everything and run to cash. There seems to be either "all in on the popular stocks" or "all in cash" - nobody seems to want to look for all the other playbooks and options out there - there's plenty of out of favor stocks but nobody who is concerned about the market seems to want to go that route.

Tax_Life

Share prices in some sectors are not at all time high at all, software had a 20-40% pullback for many stocks. NVDAs revenue is also not 130 billion, that's around their net profit for 2025. TSLA has been overvalued on hopes and dreams for years, what makes you think that will change in the short term? I think AI will experience a pullback at some point but now that the buildout is in effect some companies are just printing money. As long as capex is high there will be some companies benefitting from that, I just wouldn't invest in the ones actually spending the money.

wayfarer8888

These Musk stocks seem to have some irrational after-hours action.Tesla (TSLA) is one of the stocks that most frequently shows large and sometimes puzzling after-hours and pre-market moves.

asdafari14

I have never bought TSLA or wanted it. Even Elon consistently said the stock was too expensive. You can look it up. Rockets are a completely different industry with fewer players. Just now, Blue Origin managed to land their rocket on a floater, 10 years after SpaceX first did it. Then a few weeks they had an issue so the FAA grounded it, they got cleared and then it blew up. Rockets are hard. What EU company or other company competes? Except for China, noone has a good shot.

asdafari14

> why stock is stalling next 5 years as it has recently been with Tesla despite company doing better than 5 years ago. Tesla now has real competition and he has hurt the brand's value. That said, if you are seriously arguing that the stock performance has been bad, I don't know what to tell you. Are you looking at the extreme top of 2021 that lasted days and drawing all comparisons from that? I remember back in 2016, Tesla was considered comically expensive by reddit and the masses then beyond fundamentals, at prices 4% from now. Even last 5 years, TSLA outperformed S&P500 79% vs 76%.

Beautiful_Golf6322

Why the hell is this being downvoted? It is clear from the market response to SPCX listing and TSLA success that markets values vision, unrelenting focus and eventual delivery!

D1rtyH1ppy

He'll just repeat that TSLA and SPCX are going to merge and everyone will go crazy, and then nothing will happen 

ryan178us

will be another trading day where QQQ close up around 3% and MSFT down 3% and TSLA up 5%, I know it ...

ShineyNew1072

Wall Street valuations work great when Boomer Inc. does the same thing decade after decade with cost savings and synergies thrown in every few years. To understand $SPCX you should first be familiar with $TSLA. But that is a lot of work. Are you familiar with $AMZN? Do you know that 1/2 of $AMZN’s valuation is due to AWS? AWS or the Cloud radically changed IT not long ago. Look at the valuation of VMWare before it was swallowed up. Virtual Servers and the Cloud made things we do today impossible just 25 years ago. $SPCX isn’t “The Cloud”. It’s “THE CONSTELLATION”. In less than 10 years, from anywhere in the world, you will put on something that looks like a pair of glasses and be able to play in a ultra realistic FPS because $SPCX wireless internet will be ubiquitous and $SPCX “Constellation” servers will be able to render life-like gaming instantaneously. And here’s the thing. My little story above isn’t even the purpose of $SPCX, it’s merely a consequence of the technology. Musk wants to build a lot of things in space and he’s going to need raw materials. Mark my words, if it hasn’t already been calculated that is, but Musk will realize it’s more cost effective to mine asteroids than launch raw materials into orbit. Have you looked at the price of “rare earth” minerals? It just goes on and on. So for those who are forecasting $SPCX’s PE based on Starlink and some NASA contracts- you are looking at 2 trees and missing the entire forest.

Own_Huckleberry262

I suspect SpaceX stock is like crypto or TSLA. It will grow for a few years, then we'll see a new Beanie Baby investment.

Sea_Pomegranate_4499

**How concerned should I be about the NVDA concentration at this level?** Not knowing your goals or financial situation, impossible to say. **Would you trim or rebalance, or stay the course given the AI tailwinds?** Oh, I would absolutely rebalance. But I'm some random guy on the internet, the likelihood that our goals and financial situation line up are pretty small. **Anything obviously missing or redundant in this mix?** SMPO already has NVDA, TSLA, AMZN, GOOG, AVGO...in fact these 5 stocks probably make up 90% of your "portfolio." **I’m a long term investor (10+ years horizon), not looking to day trade. I would really appreciate any honest feedback.** My honest feedback is that I can't figure out what you're trying to do with these picks. It feels like vibe investing.

CMTTrader

Additional: SK Hynix: +4.8% Samsung: +3.5% EWY (Korea): +3.2% GOOG: +1.4% MSFT: +1.2% AMZN: +0.8% META: +1.05% RKLB: +3.4% AAPL: +0.7% TSM: +1.1% PLTR: +1.4% ARM: +3.2% TSLA: +0.7%

CreamyBehemoth

TSLA $7000 eow

0o0o0o0o0o0z

> What does Musk actually do at TSLA or SPCX? > > Serious question. He is the flim-flam guy; the stock is the actual product.

TurdHal

I am not a professional trader, but I played TSLA for a long time. Won some, lost some on that stock. If the IPO evaluation was about $500 billions, I would have went in with everything I had for a momentum upswing or even a long term play based on how TSLA turned out. However, it started out too high really turned me off. This may turn out to be a 10x bagger, but at of right now IMHO it is way over target.

Lovevas

As a Tesla investor, I am glad that TSLA has already 10x even when it has not achieved what it planned and gained me millions. Cannot believe how much high TSLA could go, if it achieve what it promised. Diamond hand on TSLA!

McClintockC

Remember when Elon got flak for smoking weed on a talk show and TSLA dumped like 30%? Now he's snorting lines of K off the first lady's tits while throwing nazi salutes lmao Calls on everything. World is fuk

TheBobbestB0B

So what you are saying is he’s following the TSLA model at SPCX, shift things around until it seems legit (when enough bag holders board the train)

Electrical_Maize3587

Lol @ whoever is going to buy puts on SPCX. They know people wanna short it. It’s the next TSLA. It’s going to pump irrationally but slowly

balancedchaos

We have no idea if this is the case. I look at TSLA's financials and the valuation makes no sense.  It's cost me a lot of money trying to apply logic to an illogical situation. 

Friendly-Profit-8590

So what’s a good robotics stock not named TSLA?

BillyBobChorton

How long have you said that about TSLA? Probably 6 years +

TheBobbestB0B

He was recently forced to show up to TSLA (I assume he spent the time jerking off high in his office). He doesn’t dooooo anything. He just tells his botnet to summon the virgins and old white guys to pump his wallet so he can buy more drugs of course

infowhiskey

What does Musk actually do at TSLA or SPCX? Serious question.

Cockballzz

Little reminder that it took 10 years and 10 public offerings for TSLA to become profitable. SPCX will probably follow this path

HawkEy3

You're saying TSLA trillion dollar valuation is because of retail investors? 

HotIndependence9581

who cares if you can generate money in next few years. It's already at fair value but I am thinking to buy just because it can very well become a cult stock like TSLA.

TheRabidDeer

Never did I say that people can't make money buying his stocks. I am saying that his stocks are massively inflated due to people like you that do nothing but glaze him like he is personally doing the things he claims because of the things he promises. Look at TSLA, market cap of 1.5T off of only 97B in revenue and 3.8B in net income. Compared to Toyotas market cap of 270B off of 334B in revenue and 25B in net income. Tesla has had 20 years to prove itself at this point and it's done decently, but not as well as many would have expected based on what was promised. It's only worth what it is because the market is divorced from reality.

ObviousTrust9421

TSLA will start to drop to more normal levels now thst the Musk hype has moved to Space X. Same thing happened to PayPal.

jayydubbya

Yeah but people have been waiting for TSLA to pop for a long time too. It hasn’t.

truecakesnake

"Trust me bro TSLA will crash"

Nuclear_N

I wish I still had my TSLA from 2019....I have my AAPL still.

LatiBerg

You’ve just described the entire stock market, not just TSLA

SalmonellaSteve

You’re underestimating the power of cope that Elon holds. I hate the guy, but TSLA somehow just stays on top. There’s no reason for it, but I don’t foresee this going underwater any time soon.

LumpyShock9656

I believe TSLA is an overvalued POS. Would I short it? No

lowrisk_highreward

TSLA is not just an overvalued car company. It’s one of the market’s biggest retail casinos. It may look like pure irrationality, but it is not. TSLA’s price often seems to move toward the zone where the biggest overall losses are waiting. Call it max pain. Call it options hedging. Call it market maker games. Whatever the name, the result is the same: traders get pulled in, shaken out, and forced to close at a loss. That’s why TSLA can keep an insane P/E for so long. As long as people keep gambling on it every day, fundamentals can stay in the back seat. TSLA probably only comes back to earth when traders get bored and stock/options volume finally dries up. That’s why the wild narratives need to continue, and why a merger with SPCX could be so valuable. It would give TSLA a never-ending pipeline of story fuel, so the casino never gets boring. Just remember: in a packed casino, the house has the edge, valuation irrationality can remain longer than you can remain solvent, and the casino only breaks when the crowd finally leaves. So never bet against a packed casino. Not financial advice!

notarealredditor69

I don’t disagree with you. I personally am not buying SPCX and I don’t own TSLA. I’m just saying I understand why people do. The guy obviously does not hit on even a fraction on what he says he will, but the realm he is playing in now, a breakthrough is game hanging for the entire human race at a level that has never even been attempted before. Elon is a dreamer, and his dreams are huge. People want to be part of that, and this isn’t going to change any time soon.

YourChildhood5762

TSLA 1yr 24.51% 5yr 99.92% VOO 1yr 23.35% 5yr 74.82% bite me

lowrisk_highreward

The other explanation is that TSLA is not just an overvalued car company. It’s one of the market’s biggest retail casinos. It looks like pure irrationality, but TSLA’s price often seems to walk toward the zone where the biggest overall losses are waiting. Call it max pain. Call it options hedging. Call it market maker games. Whatever the name, the result is the same: traders get pulled in, shaken out, and forced to close at a loss. That’s why TSLA can keep an insane P/E for so long. As long as people keep gambling on it every day, fundamentals can stay in the back seat. TSLA probably only comes back to earth when traders get bored and stock/options volume finally dries up. That’s why the wild narratives need to continue, and why a merger with SPCX could be so valuable. It would give TSLA a never-ending pipeline of story fuel, so the casino never gets boring. Just remember: in a packed casino, the house has the edge, irrationality can remain longer than you can remain solvent, and the casino only breaks when the crowd finally leaves. So never bet against a packed casino. Not financial advice!

GelatinGhost

The problem is that in the short term they do act that way. In the long run a profitable company is virtually guaranteed to have a positive return though. I just wish the opposite always held true for garbage like TSLA and SpaceX.

Lucid_Chemist

Uh musk fan club wants more shares, they don’t understand market cap or P&E look at TSLA….

ThatMightBeTheCase

Anyone who tries to use any sort of rational analysis on this stock is a fucking idiot. This will absolutely be TSLA 2.0 and it will make everyone who gets in now a lot richer within 5 years. Fucking your traditional investing, get tendies bitch.

Apart-Selection5680

Thought experiment: If Musk were to die tomorrow what would happen to the price of SPCX and TSLA?

Principletrade

You could have said the same thing about Tesla stock for the last 10-15 years. I mean, I’m not buying SPCX or TSLA, but as long as Elon keeps pushing the boundaries of technology, I wouldn’t bet against him.

Diokneesus

Why shouldn't I buy TSLA for the eventual merger

porncrank

The math hasn't mathed on TSLA for a long time. But in fairness, the math didn't math on AMZN for a long time either. They were losing money every year until their IPO, and then their losses *exploded* in the five years *after* their IPO. Their P/E was effectively infinite. Once they had a non-infinite P/E it kept going up into multiple hundreds. And they even dipped back into full unprofitability some years. Nonetheless... AMZN has done very well as both a stock and a company. The point is: people who are investing believe -- rightly or wrongly -- that SpaceX will be bigger in 10 years than they are today. They don't care what the math says now. They are banking on something softer that doesn't reflect in the math: they believe SpaceX is in a uniquely powerful market position on a huge market with a huge moat. I didn't invest in SpaceX myself, but I strongly considered it. I would not rule out investing in the future.

thebiglebowskiisfine

I bought SpaceX in a private placement at $9 per share and a lot of TSLA in 2013. I'm waiting for FSD to launch and might wait for the eventual merger. I have ridden TSLA to 480 and down to 130 and back up. My ASP is $12. My SpaceX shares are now locked for 180 days. It doesn't really bother me because I have no debt and other investments. I can stomach the extreme volatility, and there has been a LOT over the years.