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Vanguard FTSE Europe Index Fund ETF Shares
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Brazillian investor needing some advice on foreign ETFs
Sun Spots Prove The US dollar Will Devalue This Year
Sun Spots Prove The US dollar Will Devalue This Year
US Dollar Will Tank This Year. Buy VGK.
Confused about how investing in foreign funds interacts with exchange rates. Does the exchange rate alone make my fund value go up/down?
What stock/investment has been your best decision in your portfolio?
Question about difference between index future and etf
2022-11-17 Wrinkle-brain Plays (Mathematically derived options plays)
Expected moves this week. SPY, VGK, Docusign, NIO and more.
European crash overdue. Pick $VGK to short the overall European market. 6.17 $55 PUT; The war, the energy crisis, the Euro, the inflation, the rate hike, and so on...It should work but the time 6.17 is too close. Anyway, risking $1500 is an affordable play. Will see what happens in 2 weeks
European crash overdue. Pick $VGK to short the overall European market. 6.17 $55 PUT; The war, the energy crisis, the Euro, the inflation, the rate hike, and so on...It should work but the time 6.17 is too close. Anyway, risking $1500 is an affordable play. Will see what happens in 2 weeks.
Kiev To Be Encircled By Next Friday
European stocks are the bargain of a lifetime, US stocks still overvalued
Why have Euro stocks done so bad since 2008?
Opinions needed on my approach to investing long term and saving money for retirement!
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Compare VGK to VOO. Or, compare euro to USD during the past one year. It doesn't a whole lot of winning for US. Apart from the euphoria for AI and tech, cheaper dollar also contributed to the gains. Future is murky as well. Who is going to pay for the war? Higher interest rates are going to mess up everything. Housing, fixed income, stock prices, private credit etc are all going to come under severe pressure.
Yes, I have a little diversity with Europe and Canada with VGK and FLCA, they have lower expense ratios.
Vanguard's European Stock Index Fund, VGK
Anyone with an ounce of perspective is fine. USD/Eur is .87. what was it 5 years ago? .84. What was it 20 years ago? .81. It "crashed" in 2022. Alongside a 20% crash in the SPY. And for those who want some global perspective. VGKz a good broad Euro ETF is down 12% in the last 30 days. And up only 25% in the last 5 years. The SPY is down 6% in the last 30 (half as much) and up 66% in the last 5 years. Well more than double VGK. USD is up against the euro. And our broad markets are vastly higher. You have to pick one out of 6 charts to make it look bad. I know as a Euro it feels weird to be able to say you're beating the US. But that was last year. And it was as always short lived.
"The dollar value is a totally distinct variable" When the dollar value goes down, stock prices in dollars go up, but the stock hasn't actually gained value as a result of that dynamic. Europe (VGK) as measured in dollars is up 24% over the last 12 months, so... yeah. 18% is okay. At the same time, the dollar has lost 12% of its value vis a vis the euro, so measured in euros the nominal gain is significantly less for both markets. (The 12% of the nominal gain that is a result of the falling value of the dollar goes away.) "Europe crushed this morning, as expected" Yes. The U.S. has far less industrial production (less transport costs), far more oil & gas production, and is farther from the conflict. So one would expect its markets to experience less of a short-term impact. None of that changes the above. For a long-term impact, one could have the thesis that it will benefit the USA, as the USA can use the terrorism effect to ensure other countries stay close to it for fear of the USA killing them. Or one could have the thesis that it will hurt the USA, as it will accelerate the world seeing the USA as a rogue actor & thus accelerate the decoupling of the world financial system from USA dependence.
• HYSA: $85k earning about $200/month in interest That's a waste. Cash loses value due to inflation. The 85k should be invested in some index (perhaps VT) in a brokerage fund, put into a different store of value (like, say, a gold ETF), or at least put into treasuries or something like that. Keep a few months of expenses in the HYSA as an emergency fund (aka a "fuck off fund" just in case you land a bad boyfriend or girlfriend, lol). Since Trump was elected, I prefer broad ETFs of non-USA stocks. Stuff like VGK (Europe), FLKR (Korea), or ASEA (South-east Asia). VXUS (everywhere but the US) or VT (the USA + the rest of the world too) if you want super-broad based etfs that you ignore forever and ever. You're 23. Stocks go up over the long-term (because companies overall become more profitable as technology improves). In a brokerage account you want to invest in ETFs or stocks that you will hold for a year or more. (In the USA, stock market gains are taxed as capital gains if you held the investment for more than a year. They are taxed as regular income if you held the investment for less than a year. Capital gains taxes are much lower than income taxes.) "How do you mentally handle market dips?" Not looking. Seriously. Keeping in mind you want broad, diverse ETFs that you will hold for a year or more, I wouldn't bother to pay any attention to the brokerage account unless you are adding more money to it. "Did you transition money gradually from HYSA into investments or lump sum it? I lump summed it. No real reason to transfer gradually, in my opinion. Though in my case I never had an HYSA. Never saw the point. "how you decided on your allocation at a similar age" I didn't invest until I was older, but it went like this: Oh my goodness, I have money now. I know money always loses value over time due to inflation. I should invest my money, because stocks and real estate don't lose value to inflation like the dollar does. The classic investments for Americans building wealth are real estate and the stock market. I can't afford a house and don't want one where I currently live anyway. I'll invest in stocks. Bonds and other conservative assets like gold generally grow slower & are more suited for risk-adverse retirees, so I'll just stick to stocks. I want what will grow most over the next few decades, so, stocks. I'll max out a Roth IRA and then put the rest in a brokerage account. (Contractor business income - no 401k.) I'll invest in broad-based ETFs with diverse holdings so that no one company falling apart can hurt me too badly. I'll invest in ETFs holding USA stocks even though they are overvalued because the markets believe in American Exceptionalism and USA stocks bizarrely keep growing faster than everywhere else. That went well. Oh my goodness, Trump was RE-elected. American Exceptionalism is dead. I'll shift my money into broad-based ETFs holding non-USA stocks. That went really well. Hey, look, a reddit post I think I can answer helpfully.
If you're not sure on what equities to go for (I like foreign ETFs like VGK or FLKR), replace cash & low-yield bonds with precious metals. Silver & gold. Gold is better for holding value. Silver has more volatility (higher growth and loss potential than gold). Inflation eats cash. Returns on bonds are okay - if they are beating inflation by a fair margin. Precious metals... sit there. Inflation makes their value look bigger. And sometimes their demand also goes up and down separately from that.
Look up VTI/VGK on tradingview. The top on US vs Europe was late December 2024. A month before Trump 2.0
With 4K you're already spreading pretty thin across 5 ETFs. SPY and QQQ overlap a lot since the Nasdaq 100 is heavily weighted in the S&P 500 too, so you're basically double dipping on the same mega cap tech names. If you want broad US exposure I'd just go heavier on one or the other. IAU for gold is fine as a small hedge but at this portfolio size it's barely going to move the needle. VGK for Europe is interesting, valuations are cheaper than the US right now so I don't hate it. ITA is pretty niche though, defense sector ETFs can be lumpy. With 4K I'd simplify, maybe just QQQ and VGK if you want that US growth plus European diversification split. Easier to manage and you're not paying 5 sets of spreads on tiny positions.
Solid picks overall, but think in roles. IAU is more of a hedge than a return driver, ITA is cyclical and tied to geopolitics, and VGK has lagged the US for years. If you’re already buying QQQ and SPY, you’re heavily US-tilted, so just make sure you’re adding these for diversification, not expecting them to outperform consistently.
No need for that. He’s been in office for a year. 2025 full year results for major indexes: VOO (US, 17.8%), VGK (Europe, 35.8%), VWO (World, 25.6%)
Apologies for the spelling errors and not specifying VGK is a vanguard etf. I am dyslexic as fuck and also I don't watch any sports so i didn't know it was a sports team.
almost all my money is in US equities. I'm as bullish as someone can get on the US but I think it's worth taking advantage of the cycle and moving whatever cash I have into VGK for the next few months
almost all my money is in US equities. I'm as bullish as someone can get on the US but I think it's worth taking advantage of the cycle and moving whatever cash I have into VGK for the next few months
How can I invest in the Vegas Golden Knights (VGK)??? I dump all my money in them winning the next match??
Salute to you Admiral. I am in VGK.
Check expense ratios and compare the returns on these assets over the last decade to SPY/VOO/VTI on one hand and BND on the other. I personally would be a bit risk averse because I feel like be markets are overvalued but you should invest it soon in diversified ETFs (not just in VOO but also things like VT, DIA, VGK, some bond ETFs, etc) and some portion in a HYSA so you can take money out and put it in while you’re in college.
No joke. VGK is my best performing asset behind GLD over the last yesr.
anyone have or like VGK as an international etf?
South Africa (EZA) Why? Gold is up & looks to stay up/government less crap than recent past. Europe (VGK) Why? General Sell America pickup. Did well enough to keep for diversification purposes. Spain (EWP) Has been run by a competent government recently. Actual population growth in Europe!! Japan (BBJP) General Sell America pickup. Did well enough to keep for diversification purposes. I might sell soon. We'll see if the new LDP leader is a steady hand or starts going wild. Mexico (FLMX) Capable new president. Somehow managing to hold off Trump crisis AND expand trade with everywhere other than the USA at the same time. ASEA (ASEA) General Sell America pickup + part of the Asia-Pac world economic hub. And the biggest part of my portfolio is Korea: EWY. 46% Samsung & SK Hynix and... some other stuff.... Picked it up last year post-coup because of the post-coup dip. Then things got really wild. Best investment decision I've ever made.
I've been using VGK. I've also been looking at VEU but haven't looked at it enough to move anything into it yet.
APPL, UNH, WMT is all up for me. The only thing that’s down is GOOGL in my portfolio. My WMT I’m selling soon. It’s up 30% for me and every time I get too greedy I lose. VOO is pretty much flat. VGEU is up and VGK is flat. Seems it was good you sold it all your stuff is down. Most of my positions are long. So no sense in selling and incur short term capital gains. Especially if I’m flat or up for the most part. Or only down 1-2% when I’m up over 30% in the last year in most of them.
I previously wrote the below in response to a question asking what would be considered a safe long-term asset: Diversified. (A single company being 10% or less of your portfolio, or an ETF with broad holdings. This includes similar investments. I.E. holding two computer memory-producing companies are not diversified. You can see them as sharing the same risk profile.) No known volatility. (Commodities, penny stocks are volatile. Foreign bonds issued by a country or company at significant risk of default are volatile.) Key holdings of the investment not located in a likely war zone. Not dependent on political support. (Will a change in government = death of the investment. See: Biden-era initiatives to spur rare earth mining & refining that were killed off by Trump. Also, this is why Exxon won't invest in Venezuela.) Not heavily taxed. (I.E. Real Estate held in jurisdictions with a large annual property tax. That CAN be okay, but only if you have good reason to believe in long-term appreciation of the real restate will significantly out-perform the tax rate and/or it earns rent. I mean, we're usually only talking like a .25-1.5% annual tax here, but that is applied on total value, not gain.) Not easily stolen (this rules out physical metals & crypto). I mean, I'm crazy enough to have silver in my portfolio, but I don't keep physical silver. I like my ETF silver to be insured and held in a vault with professional security guarding it. Actors more powerful than you also have a significant interest, providing a protective force against malign actors. (Basically, would screwing you over on your investment also screw over politically powerful rich people - not individual power but class power? If so, the power of those rich people will help you. For example, it is highly unlikely that - even under Trump - the USA would default on its debt obligations. Why? Instant political death for anyone who does so because soooo many rich Americans & powerful institutions hold bonds.) Increasingly, I like geographic diversification as well. (So many investors are 100% invested in U.S. stocks, for example.) A good portion of my portfolio is quite safe by these standards (BBJP, EWY, VGK, as examples). A good portion of my portfolio is NOT safe by these standards. But I don't expect it to be & I more regularly check how those non-safe assets are doing. All that said, no investment is a guarantee. Intel, for example, used to be thought of as a rock-solid blue chip super-safe performer. It is down 20% over the last 5 years & is now pretty volatile and exposed to a government-held stake. -------- Because I have a fair knowledge of international affairs & thus a sense of where has better underlying economic fundamentals, I invest in region and country-specific ETFs. I re-evaluate where I've allocated my funds about once a year (or when major elections happen in areas I am invested in). If you don't have that knowledge, my strategy would be less useful to you. A common strategy recommended these days is "VT and chill" - VT is an ETF that attempts to replicate overall global performance. It has U.S. stocks, European stocks, Asian stocks, African stocks, etc.. It's the way some people try to achieve asset & geographic diversification I talked about in my screed above without having specialized knowledge. VXUS is a similar index fund that has only international (not-USA) holdings. It is what people recommend for investors that don't have specific knowledge that can add value & believe the USA is in for bad economic times over the next 4 years or more. Before Trump (and still today) you can see a lot of people recommending "VOO and chill" - VOO tracks the S&P 500. Essentially it is a holding diversified but geographically not-diversified (all USA stocks) fund. It's what people recommended for low-attention multi-year investing if you believed America had economic advantages the rest of the world did not have. So there's your three basic recommendations for someone who doesn't have some specialized knowledge they can rely on most people not having. VT = whatever, just invest in everything so I don't have too much risk anywhere and because improving technology should mean the world economy always grows. More or less what /u/pikapika505 and /u/brewgeoff suggested. VXUS = same as VT, but I think the USA is in for shitty economic times. VOO = same as VT, but I think the USA is special and will consistently do better than other countries.
My best and most boring performer over the last year has been VGK. And it will probably keep being my best.
Dude buy VGK this year and watch it outpace SPY.
some considerations on ETFs / mutual funds: * VXUS: International as mentioned in another comment. Performed much better than SPY in 2025. * VYMI: Similar international exposure but I believe with a stronger dividend presence. Likewise much better than SPY last year. * EWJ: Japan - also performed well and many analysts are calling for strong GDP performance from Japan in 2026. * VGK: Europe-focused fund returning near 50% over 1 year (really puts into perspective how poor the US has done). * EWY: South Korea - blew up last year as this is *highly* dependent on microchips but does give some external US exposure. * VNM: Vietnam - a true "developing" play but if one follows the talk about where many people are traveling, then it's not a bad idea to let some money invest there.
Why do the moneyed interest scare about usd? It is the federal reserve that should care. Moneyed interests can just as easily deploy their money into VGK from VTI at the click of a button if they believe euro is the long term future
Short-term (1-1.5 years) you might wanna consider SOXX or SMH. Long-term VT, VTI, VGK, VTXS. VXUS depending if you think US / EU / Ex-US is gonna outperform or you think the US have a serious debt problem.
S&P didn't do that well, if you measure in euro. In fact, it was flat. Me, I went full Sell America in Jan. 2025 & moved my portfolio into various country & region ETFs (VGK, EWP, BBJP, EWY, etc.). I had a 40% return in 2025, measured in dollars. Measure in euros, of course, and the return isn't so eye-popping. But a good year, nonetheless. AND I considered it less risky than chilling with an ETF linked to a US index. Most would disagree with me on that risk estimate. My analysis for 20 years has been that the rest of the world's valuations made sense, and were even a little discounted. But I didn't follow up on that, and stayed invested in the US, because I believed in American Exceptionalism when it came to market psychology & global capital flows. I believe the era of American Exceptionalism ended (or at least started a multi-year hiatus) in Jan. 2025, and the traditional "US indexes are the safe investment" went out the window for me with American Exceptionalism. Now I have a relatively conservative, safe, and diversified portfolio EXCEPT that it is all international. But, of course, no guarantees.
Yeah I’m considering TIPS but the yield is shitty and going down in the short term. If it’s looking like rates have bottomed I may buy some. Agreed about REITS, choose wisely but they will continue to pay, if you choose something with a long enough average lease. O would be perfect as a 10% allocation. SCHD is probably a good bet, a quality ETF. One of the ETF’s focussed on FCF (COWZ etc) and VGK. I’m also holding plenty of SGOV, JAAA, a bit of PCN, some emerging market government bonds. If tariffs are bazookered, taxes will need to go up and I’m hoping inflation will be DoA. We can all dream.
For my personal Roth I'm just buying VGK and ASEA ETF. Unfortunately the ol Trowe employer 401k has shit options for international.
VGK, IEUR, just ask your favorite LLM. Anything that isn’t currency hedged of course
Diversified. (A single company being 10% or less of your portfolio, or an ETF with broad holdings. This includes similar investments. I.E. holding two computer memory-producing companies are not diversified. You can see them as sharing the same risk profile.) No known volatility. (Commodities, penny stocks are volatile. Foreign bonds issued by a country or company at significant risk of default are volatile.) Not located in a likely war zone. Not dependent on political support. Not heavily taxed. (I.E. Real Estate held in jurisdictions with a large annual property tax. That CAN be okay, but only if you have good reason to believe in long-term appreciation of the real restate and/or it earns rent.) Not easily stolen (this rules out physical metals & crypto). Actors more powerful than you also have a significant interest, providing a protective force against malign actors. (Basically, would screwing you over on your investment also screw over politically powerful rich people - not individual power but class power? If so, the power of those rich people will help you. For example, it is highly unlikely that - even under Trump - the USA would default on its debt obligations. Why? Instant political death for anyone who does so because soooo many rich Americans hold bonds.) Increasingly, I like geographic diversification as well. (So many investors are 100% invested in U.S. stocks, for example.) A good portion of my portfolio is quite safe by these standards (BBJP, EWY, VGK). A good portion of my portfolio is NOT safe by these standards. But I don't expect it to be & I more regularly check how those non-safe assets are doing. All that said, no investment is a guarantee. Intel, for example, used to be thought of as a rock-solid blue chip super-safe performer. It is down 20% over the last 5 years & is now pretty volatile and exposed to a government-held stake.
Probably VGK, dollar is shot
VGK to my understanding is priced in USD. VXUS and VEU are in local currencies. As the USD declines, you maintain wealth in local currency priced equities.
After comparing SPY and VGK. Trump made VGK great again this past year.
FXE Another move is just to buy European ETFs so you get paid in Euros and make money on the conversion. VGK. Also like VXUS
On Schwab (and probably others) you can buy VGK, Vanguard Europe ETF
I’d look for a broad South America ETF rather than investing in Venezuela where there is so much uncertainty. I have VPL (Asia-Pacific) and VGK (Europe). I don’t have anything to suggest for S America, but I’m sure it exists, hopefully someone else can offer suggestions.
Glad I pulled some money out of S&P500 and put it in VGK. Wish I did more.
VGK. Outperformed the S&P in 2025 and I expect it to do the same. Europe will invest in their own defense industry instead of buying from the US. As the US shuts down renewable energy projects, those companies will shift to European investments. Companies in Europe will take over from US industries due to lack of data protection, honest business practices, and other risks that will diminish long term US growth prospects.
Yep. Which is why Europe is going to outperform the US for another year. Holding VGK until the admin changes.
VGK, I guess. https://etfdb.com/etfdb-category/europe-equities/#etfs__expenses&sort_name=expense_ratio&sort_order=asc&page=1
TSLA 10 shares, PLTR 31, META 11.01, AAPL 41.05, AMZN 39, GOOGL 48.04, MSFT 26.04, NVDA 10, ETFs VXUS 63.31, VOO 15.04, VGK 187.49. Total portfolio \~98k, up \~20% overall. I know it’s tech heavy, that’s intentional, ETFs are my stability layer. Biggest winners have been TSLA and GOOGL, META and MSFT lagging. Would you rebalance into more defensives or small value, or keep riding mega cap and let the ETF exposure smooth volatility? Also, for international, is VXUS + VGK redundant or a reasonable tilt?
I did look at a chart for a Vanguard EU ETF earlier (VGK) and you are correct, it has performed well for the past 1 year. Based on that, I wouldn't be shorting it at the moment, definitely not.
The fun thing about that is buying VGK and VXUS
I mean it's split between VTI/VOO/VGK with some cash (<1%), but yeah, effectively. But yes, I am also like 30 unmarried with no kids. Don't see what the FA would give me.
Let’s say you had 2 funds VOO and VGK 50/50. Then you sit on it and come back in 12 month (you did this a year ago). Total value 2,000. - US +15% 1,150 - VGK +30% 1,300 - now your mix is 0.47/0.53 Now this is not much of a drift because the 2 funds are pretty correlated so effect isn’t much. Now you rebalance. By selling 3% of VGK (1300*0.03)=39 then you buy 39 worth of VOO. Now you’re back at 50:50. Don’t look at price. Look at your total account value and determine the $$ amount.
20% per google for the VGK but still your point stands However, the amount of influential and disruptive tech companies that come out of America vs Europe is insane, or China vs EU. And it really makes no sense, the EU has an GDP equivalent of the US combined and a larger population filled with an educated workforce with top tier academic institutions….. yet they can’t compete with US tech for whatever reason, or increasingly any US or Chinese industries except maybe aerospace and a select few others
The euro etf VGK is up more than 30% this ytd compared to about 17% for the S&P. Thats all propped up by fining Google?
" Europe isn’t much better." Vanguard Europe/VGK +29% SPY +16% "Materials" Certain basic materials are doing great - look at something like SETM +80% YTD, others not. "Policies change every day. Tariffs can hit at any time" Reddit has continually mentioned this since the apocalyptic sentiment of the April low. Meanwhile, we're up 37% since. "the U.S. market is still the top priority next year" You'd have done much better in a lot of international markets this year and wouldn't be surprised if that continues next year. "Plus, the 2026 midterm elections are coming. Both parties will go all-out, meaning fiscal policy may freeze again, and market trust in the government will keep eroding." Politics has become so all-encompassing and win at all costs that everything has become increasingly ultra short-termism - kick cans, print money, tweak things (50 year mortgages) rather than even begin to actually fix problems. It feels as if there's no desire to let the market clear and perhaps there's also simply less abillity to address a real crisis if one occured. Could a 2008-level financial crisis be addressed in the same manner if it happened today, or is the choice going to be simply throw money at the problem instead? High levels of debt will be inflated away. Would be surprised if there isn't persistently elevated levels of inflation over the next 5-10 years.
VGK has risen more than 20% in the past year. I don't have any aggressive investments right now. I currently hold stocks in Meta, NFLX, Nvidia, and MFST, as well as gold.
You might want to look at EURO STOXX indices ETFs which track companies from Eurozone countries specifically. SPDR EURO STOXX 50 ETF (FEZ) or iShares Core MSCI Eurozone ETF (HEZU) both focus on EU countries and exclude the UK. The Vanguard FTSE Europe ETF (VGK) is popular but does include UK stocks (about 20%), so it's not purely EU. The iShares MSCI Eurozone ETF (EZU) is probably the closest to what you're seeking - it's focused specifically on EU member states that use the Euro.
"A lot of people are saying international markets might actually outperform for once" VGK is up about 25% YTD while the SPY is up about half that. "What’s your mindset going into 2026?" Not risk on but not entirely risk-off either; neutral to slightly negative feels realistic but would be happy if it's another great year. If growth pulled back substantially I could see buying, but otherwise continuing to dial down growth a little bit further next year and look more for value/out of favor opportunities/real assets.
op: VXUS, VGK ignore all these stupid answers;)
I actually underweigh the US (being an EU citizen living in Switzerland, I have some VGK, and also Swiss investments in my pension fund), and have ~25% of my money on EUR gov bonds, because I'm over-exposed to AI (working in the field and all), so I made sure to have *less* exposure to AI stocks than someone going 100% VT or VOO... but you know better I suppose. And since you have an account with your real name on it, it makes perfect sense to expect others to use their main accounts for posts that could give away the company they work at, right? And *obviously* it's not worth speaking about the points raised, but just about the account age. Right? And people should obviously trust you, when you hide all your Reddit history, when mine is fully open and people can actually check what I post / comment and where? **Oh, wait, none of these is true**.
I'm in tears, this was supposed to be the year, 17 years, but here we are. October 31st, 2007 was the ATH share price for VGK at 82.09. It has now been 18 years and Europe is still recovering. I don't get it, we all only invest in VGK. Europe has no problem with brain drain, welfare policies, low birthrate, restrictive laws that hinder innovation, high taxes that make wealth flee, low unity, and no wars within. I don't get it, Reddit says Europe is a flawless utopia so why hasn't VGK hit a ATH **share price** in now, 18 years. I'm heart broken, could Reddit be wrong?... Are people not investing in VGK?... Why must you betray me Europe...
AFK up 50% this year. And still down 30% over 10 years. VGK not quite up 100% in 10 years. And has now just barely passed 2007 peak. There is a reason people invest in US markets long term
For the hundredth time, acting as if the S&P being up 15% YTD when the dollar is DOWN 12% YTD is fucking stupid. VXUS: +28% AAXJ: +32% VGK: +29% AFK: +53% Every other regional index on the fucking planet is kicking the shit out of the S&P that's basically just 5 companies holding up the index while the rest of the country collapses. But we still get these dumbass posts talking about "the rally". There is no fucking rally bro.
I'm not puzzled anymore. The S&P 500 still has 500 names on it, but 75% of its gains this year have come from a handful of AI stocks whose own CEOs are starting to say publicly that it's a bubble. On top of that, being up 15% in a year where the dollar is down 12% is not impressive. Especially when you look at the alternatives. Other regional indexes are beating the shit out of the S&P. VXUS, AAXJ, VGK are all up about 25% and AFK is up 50%. Other countries' markets are doing much, much better than the US'. Meanwhile, the US' fundamentals just aren't there for long term growth, we're not investing in next gen infrastructure, we're not funding research, we're making it cost prohibitive and unattractive to bring highly skilled workers here, we're gutting our educational system when we were already falling behind in the STEM skills that have fueled market dominance for the last half century, we're adopting isolationist, erratic trade policies that are permanently cutting US producers off from the markets that have been a major source of revenue for decades.... What I was saying back in April was that you can't just look at charts, you have to think about what the numbers actually mean in terms of the real world. And it's really bad still.
Hadn't looked in a while, VGK (Vanguard Europe) +28.6% YTD vs SPY +15.8%.
I sold all of my US stocks in February and bought VXUS, VGK, and AAXJ (and POET is my one non-etf) It's been very good for me so far.
VGK. The rumors of Europe's death are greatly exaggerated. They are actually investing in things that improve their position and economy. Unless the far right ruins these plans (which is a risk), Europe is going to be a stable economy with solid investment results. They are building more of their own military equipment and they are building up energy production, all while slowly transitioning away from US goods and services. [Spain rules out buying F-35, choosing between Eurofighter or FCAS | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/spain-rules-out-buying-f-35-choosing-between-eurofighter-or-fcas-2025-08-06/) [ECB selects digital euro service providers](https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/intro/news/html/ecb.mipnews251002.en.html) [Orsted axes quarter of jobs, pivots to Europe after US setbacks under Trump | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/orsted-cut-2000-jobs-by-end-2027-2025-10-09/)
BRK.B, VTI, VWO, VGK? I've been adding BRK.B instead of treasuries. If Buffet's holding cash, might as well get in on the action.
Hey VGK has almost hit an ATH last week! The last time it was over $82.09 per share was in 2007.... Let's not talk about that...
I was a pro prop firm trader from 2007-2010. I'm old. Like in a room with multiple news feeds going, techs in the next room for when computers would crash, people breaking keyboards. All that to say that I have a very healthy respect for markets even though I've made plenty of money long. When you see the markets go to shit in front of your face all day every day when you're 23, it takes a toll. I remember a chicken company going out of business intraday, my boss loaded it up and went down $100k in seconds (shares not options). The NY office stopped him out, he had to call and yell for them to unlock the acct. Anyway. I have trauma. I also live off investing. I started selling on Weds and sold a fuck ton on Friday. Selling more on Monday. I also spent months in 2022 teaching myself to short small caps so I'm pretty good at seeing tops. Friday was ugly. We've got some serious trapped buyers, homebuilders have been going down for a while, MSFT and GOOG tipped me off to sell some of my SPY on Thursday. Those are acting wrong and have been. AAPL needed to break $260 and failed. NVDA is about to be a big failed breakout. That Bitcoin flash crash was fugly. RVOL on SPY was over 2.2 yesterday, that's some serious selling. This is more than Trump. So I was just on that sub Race to 10 Million. We're in trouble. People are overleveraged and dumb enough to think that a 3% dip from all time highs is a great place to buy. The fact that that sub even exists is a red flag. Not to mention all the new people in it asking liars to show them how to make $10m. I'm down to OPEN, GLD (was already up 17%, doubled the position EOD yesterday), EUAD, EWG, VGK, SPY and a ton of cash. Going to make 4% on it until it's time to buy. I don't have anyone to rant about markets to besides my partner and they can only hear so much of it. Plus they were sitting next to me yesterday when I started watching price action and dumping positions. I really thought we could run more. Bummer. I have nobody to talk to so I'm ranting at you guys. This sucks, I thought NVDA could break $200 and that SPY had another 20% in it. Alas.
What? VT is +4% over S&P YTD. VXUS is +11%. VGK is up 14%. AAXJ is up 12%. If you don't believe in the US market right now, VT and similar are only barely diversifying out of it.
Is anyone else heartbroken this isn't the week VGK recovers from the 2008 finial crisis? It hasn't hit an ATH in 6,554 day 😢 I really thought from all of the Reddit posts about how great Europe is it would recover by now. One day it will reach $82.09 again, then eventually it'll beat the inflation adjusted amount too! Europe is the future!
I did back in February. It's a bad idea to look at the S&P hitting new highs in a vacuum. Ok it's hitting highs. what if you adjust for the fact that the dollar lost over 15% of its value vs the Euro this year? What if you also consider the opportunity cost of not investing in other countries' index funds instead? For example, VGK is Vanguard's EU large cap index fund. Like VOO for the EU. Its outperforming the S&P500 by more than 13%!
That's because VGK crated last December. Go back 1 year and VGK is only up 17.2% while VOO is up more than that.
YTD. VGK performance of 28.17% vs 14.2% VOO.
I'm out on US ETFs. I'm not playing chicken with whatever depression shitshow Trump is cooking up. I'm expecting the dollar go continue losing value vs major foreign currencies, and for other countries to take advantage of the idiocracy by reducing the importance and involvement of the US in international trade. VXUS (+26.91%), AAXJ (+29.57% YTD)(large and mid cap companies in Asia excluding Japan), VGK (+28.74%)(vanguard European index)
Outside of short term bonds, IEMG, GLD, and VGK are my biggest holdings right now, in that order. I did pretty well this year and there is just too much risk, imo, here in the US. Good chance I will get back in Jan 1 win, lose, or draw.
No need to flee to cash ( unless you see a near term opportunity to buy a dip. ). Re-allocating some to international markets that are operating at a more sane P/E ratio and have currencies that are getting stronger relative to the dollar is completely warranted. Plenty of short term investments that are better than MMF. Going 70/30 with equities on one side and bonds/commodities on the other makes lots of sense. Personally holding: \~ 70% VUG ( US Large Cap ) VGK ( European Large Cap ) IEMG ( Emerging Markets ) \~20% IAU ( Gold ) \~10% VTIP ( Inflation Protected Treasuries \[ Cash Equiv \] ) The gold and VTIPS damp down on the volatility of VUG and have allowed the overall portfolio to outperform the S&P. When current US monetary, trade and immigration policy come home to roost ( sometime in the next few years ) there will be an opportunity to buy US equities on the dip. In the meantime, an inflationary currency will continue to push equity and commodity prices higher so enjoy the ride.
Not sure who the target of your post is, but I've literally had my best year of investing in my entire life by fucking off to international stocks in January and avoiding the mess in the US. I'm up over 85% on my EUAD stocks. I'd be up only about 10% if I had left that same money in VOO over the same time frame. Even my safer VGK stocks are still up like 25% in the same time frame.
In your scenario, your investment would indeed be worth $1200 due to currency appreciation. When the euro strengthens against the dollar, your euro-denominated assets automatically gain value when converted back to USD. So even if the underlying stocks in VGK didn't change, you'd see a 20% gain from exchange rate movement. This is why international investing introduces currency risk/opportunity - your returns aren't just from stock performance, but also forex fluctuations. Always factor in potential currency impacts when investing internationally.
VGK is up 26% YTD? Why only pick the DAX lol
...and I believe VGK is not hedged.
Lmfao VGK hasn't recovered from October 31st, 2007 when the ATH was 82.09. That is almost 17 years of not hitting an ATH, not even including inflation. Maybe this is the year Europe finally recovers.
Hope you had fun missing out on stocks like Nvidia, Palantir, Microsoft, and more. Idk where you’re getting your numbers from, the S&P500 vs VGK 1 year performance charts aren’t showing a huge difference between the 2, they’re basically neck & neck. Fuck Reddit lmao. Same Reddit with biased, power tripping mods that do work for free for a publicly traded multi-bullion dollar company.
I have two EFT’s. One Euro (VGK) one US (VTI). VGK is up 24.86% YTD. VTI is up 8.42% YTD. Reddit might have been right on that one.
FWIW, here’s how I’d go about it: - 50% in European Large-Cap Equities ETF: Track broad European stocks. Use Vanguard FTSE Europe UCITS ETF (ticker: VGK on Euronext, but confirm UCITS version; expense 0.08%). This captures EU growth from fiscal stimulus (e.g., defense spending up 50% in 2025 outlooks, banks +28%). - 20% in European Small-Cap Equities ETF: For higher growth potential (small caps historically outperform large by 2-3% annually). Use iShares MSCI Europe Small-Cap UCITS ETF (IEUS; expense 0.40%). Focuses on undervalued EU small firms (e.g., tech/manufacturing in Germany/Netherlands). - 20% in Emerging Markets ex-US ETF: Growth from Asia/LatAm/Africa. Use iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets UCITS ETF (EMIM; expense 0.18%). Excludes US/China-risks; emphasizes India/Southeast Asia for 4-6% expected returns. Accepts currency fluctuation (e.g., INR/EUR swings ~15% historically). - 10% in Euro-Denominated Bonds ETF (10k €): For stability and income (2-3% yield). Use iShares Euro Government Bond UCITS ETF (IEGA; expense 0.15%). Tracks safe EU sovereign bonds (e.g., German/French); low volatility, shields from equity dips. Do an annual review and rebalance; sell if any asset deviates >5%.
I still don't trust the data out of chinese corporations. Also, zoom out to the 5+ year chart compared to the S&P 500. The YTD return on MCHI is about the same as VGK where there is more trust in the entities and the audits of financial statements of those companies.
Diversify. Holding the SP500 is not a diverse portfolio, it is mostly directional bet on 7 tech companies at the moment. Consider foreign market ETFs, like VGK (Europe) VEU (World minus US). This gives you some currency hedge as well. If all of your investments are tied to the dollar you don't have a diverse portfolio. A dollar decline of 25-30 percent is not off the table, and is the stated goal of the administration. So, in real terms when compared to other markets the gains may not be impressive.
I'm like 70% S&P, 10% VGK (europe), and 20% cash/bonds. I had never bought international until Nov 2024. VGK has been my best performer YTD. I think of VGK as a hedge against policy driven US inflation and intentional dollar devaluation.
It’s a small component, about 5%. About a third are VGK, VXUS, and VOO. This is also separate from my Roth IRA
No problem. I used to invest in VGK, FLGB, and FLJP before a financial advisor pointed out to me that VEA is basically a more diversified automatically rebalanced version of what I was manually doing with those ETFs.
It is a YTD statistic. Look at VOO compared to VGK ytd. If you bought Jan 1 you would have been up 24% on euro index funds and you would be up 10% on the US index fund.
US market has gone up less than foreign markets. The devaluation of the dollar is a contributor to the stock market going up. For a comparison between US and European index funds, compare VOO to VGK ytd.
Anything better than VXUS or VEA or VWO or VGK?
For yourself, I’d do 15-20% of your net income MINUS your Roth, at least for yourself Ex: you make $100,000/yr after taxes (just using easy numbers). Roth is $7000 max, so you’d invest roughly $670/mo. Talk to a financial planner or wealth manager who is a FIDUCIARY. I am neither and know just enough to do well or fall flat on my face. For your kid, you’d want to maximize growth growth. So if you have $1000 to invest annually, maybe $200 in VOO, $600 in QQQ, $150 in VGK, and $50 in SCHD. Again, talk to a wealth management or financial advisor who is a fiduciary
I’m assuming you’re just looking for growth and everything to be as simple as possible. There’s nothing wrong with VOO and chill. If you want a little more grow, 2/3 QQQ and 1/3 VOO is good too (assuming recurring monthly investments). If you want to add in Europe for more diversification, throw in some VGK. You could even play with SCHD for the long-term (30 year) dividend annual income for your kid. It all depends on what your goal is. Just want to give you options For me, I max out my Roth IRA (I’ll stop in two more years; I’ll let time do the rest), pay into my pension plan, and also invest
$5k of VGK sold midday yesterday to get in to AMZN
Hey everyone! I am in my 30s and I am trying to plan a low to moderate risk portfolio that would help me grow my money. From various income sources, after expenses (which are v low for me as I live very simply), I am able to save around 10-12k usd a month. Currently, I keep more than 50% in a fixed deposit at 6% p.a. (i do a 1-3 month deposit and keep reinvesting the principal and interest at the same rate, so it also compounds), and the rest in ETFs. For ETFs, 50% of my investments are in VOO & the rest spread across various things like VXUS, VTI, VGK, Gold, silver, etc. However, since early this year I have only been adding about 2k a month to VOO and putting the rest of my savings (8-10k) in the fixed deposit. I know this is a very conservative investment strategy & I want to do more with my money- so any advice on how I could balance my portfolio better to achieve higher returns while still being low risk would be very helpful. Thank you in advance!