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Vanguard FTSE Europe Index Fund ETF Shares
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2022-11-17 Wrinkle-brain Plays (Mathematically derived options plays)
Expected moves this week. SPY, VGK, Docusign, NIO and more.
European crash overdue. Pick $VGK to short the overall European market. 6.17 $55 PUT; The war, the energy crisis, the Euro, the inflation, the rate hike, and so on...It should work but the time 6.17 is too close. Anyway, risking $1500 is an affordable play. Will see what happens in 2 weeks
European crash overdue. Pick $VGK to short the overall European market. 6.17 $55 PUT; The war, the energy crisis, the Euro, the inflation, the rate hike, and so on...It should work but the time 6.17 is too close. Anyway, risking $1500 is an affordable play. Will see what happens in 2 weeks.
Kiev To Be Encircled By Next Friday
European stocks are the bargain of a lifetime, US stocks still overvalued
Why have Euro stocks done so bad since 2008?
Opinions needed on my approach to investing long term and saving money for retirement!
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You might want to look at EURO STOXX indices ETFs which track companies from Eurozone countries specifically. SPDR EURO STOXX 50 ETF (FEZ) or iShares Core MSCI Eurozone ETF (HEZU) both focus on EU countries and exclude the UK. The Vanguard FTSE Europe ETF (VGK) is popular but does include UK stocks (about 20%), so it's not purely EU. The iShares MSCI Eurozone ETF (EZU) is probably the closest to what you're seeking - it's focused specifically on EU member states that use the Euro.
"A lot of people are saying international markets might actually outperform for once" VGK is up about 25% YTD while the SPY is up about half that. "What’s your mindset going into 2026?" Not risk on but not entirely risk-off either; neutral to slightly negative feels realistic but would be happy if it's another great year. If growth pulled back substantially I could see buying, but otherwise continuing to dial down growth a little bit further next year and look more for value/out of favor opportunities/real assets.
op: VXUS, VGK ignore all these stupid answers;)
I actually underweigh the US (being an EU citizen living in Switzerland, I have some VGK, and also Swiss investments in my pension fund), and have ~25% of my money on EUR gov bonds, because I'm over-exposed to AI (working in the field and all), so I made sure to have *less* exposure to AI stocks than someone going 100% VT or VOO... but you know better I suppose. And since you have an account with your real name on it, it makes perfect sense to expect others to use their main accounts for posts that could give away the company they work at, right? And *obviously* it's not worth speaking about the points raised, but just about the account age. Right? And people should obviously trust you, when you hide all your Reddit history, when mine is fully open and people can actually check what I post / comment and where? **Oh, wait, none of these is true**.
I'm in tears, this was supposed to be the year, 17 years, but here we are. October 31st, 2007 was the ATH share price for VGK at 82.09. It has now been 18 years and Europe is still recovering. I don't get it, we all only invest in VGK. Europe has no problem with brain drain, welfare policies, low birthrate, restrictive laws that hinder innovation, high taxes that make wealth flee, low unity, and no wars within. I don't get it, Reddit says Europe is a flawless utopia so why hasn't VGK hit a ATH **share price** in now, 18 years. I'm heart broken, could Reddit be wrong?... Are people not investing in VGK?... Why must you betray me Europe...
AFK up 50% this year. And still down 30% over 10 years. VGK not quite up 100% in 10 years. And has now just barely passed 2007 peak. There is a reason people invest in US markets long term
For the hundredth time, acting as if the S&P being up 15% YTD when the dollar is DOWN 12% YTD is fucking stupid. VXUS: +28% AAXJ: +32% VGK: +29% AFK: +53% Every other regional index on the fucking planet is kicking the shit out of the S&P that's basically just 5 companies holding up the index while the rest of the country collapses. But we still get these dumbass posts talking about "the rally". There is no fucking rally bro.
I'm not puzzled anymore. The S&P 500 still has 500 names on it, but 75% of its gains this year have come from a handful of AI stocks whose own CEOs are starting to say publicly that it's a bubble. On top of that, being up 15% in a year where the dollar is down 12% is not impressive. Especially when you look at the alternatives. Other regional indexes are beating the shit out of the S&P. VXUS, AAXJ, VGK are all up about 25% and AFK is up 50%. Other countries' markets are doing much, much better than the US'. Meanwhile, the US' fundamentals just aren't there for long term growth, we're not investing in next gen infrastructure, we're not funding research, we're making it cost prohibitive and unattractive to bring highly skilled workers here, we're gutting our educational system when we were already falling behind in the STEM skills that have fueled market dominance for the last half century, we're adopting isolationist, erratic trade policies that are permanently cutting US producers off from the markets that have been a major source of revenue for decades.... What I was saying back in April was that you can't just look at charts, you have to think about what the numbers actually mean in terms of the real world. And it's really bad still.
Hadn't looked in a while, VGK (Vanguard Europe) +28.6% YTD vs SPY +15.8%.
I sold all of my US stocks in February and bought VXUS, VGK, and AAXJ (and POET is my one non-etf) It's been very good for me so far.
VGK. The rumors of Europe's death are greatly exaggerated. They are actually investing in things that improve their position and economy. Unless the far right ruins these plans (which is a risk), Europe is going to be a stable economy with solid investment results. They are building more of their own military equipment and they are building up energy production, all while slowly transitioning away from US goods and services. [Spain rules out buying F-35, choosing between Eurofighter or FCAS | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/spain-rules-out-buying-f-35-choosing-between-eurofighter-or-fcas-2025-08-06/) [ECB selects digital euro service providers](https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/intro/news/html/ecb.mipnews251002.en.html) [Orsted axes quarter of jobs, pivots to Europe after US setbacks under Trump | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/orsted-cut-2000-jobs-by-end-2027-2025-10-09/)
BRK.B, VTI, VWO, VGK? I've been adding BRK.B instead of treasuries. If Buffet's holding cash, might as well get in on the action.
Hey VGK has almost hit an ATH last week! The last time it was over $82.09 per share was in 2007.... Let's not talk about that...
I was a pro prop firm trader from 2007-2010. I'm old. Like in a room with multiple news feeds going, techs in the next room for when computers would crash, people breaking keyboards. All that to say that I have a very healthy respect for markets even though I've made plenty of money long. When you see the markets go to shit in front of your face all day every day when you're 23, it takes a toll. I remember a chicken company going out of business intraday, my boss loaded it up and went down $100k in seconds (shares not options). The NY office stopped him out, he had to call and yell for them to unlock the acct. Anyway. I have trauma. I also live off investing. I started selling on Weds and sold a fuck ton on Friday. Selling more on Monday. I also spent months in 2022 teaching myself to short small caps so I'm pretty good at seeing tops. Friday was ugly. We've got some serious trapped buyers, homebuilders have been going down for a while, MSFT and GOOG tipped me off to sell some of my SPY on Thursday. Those are acting wrong and have been. AAPL needed to break $260 and failed. NVDA is about to be a big failed breakout. That Bitcoin flash crash was fugly. RVOL on SPY was over 2.2 yesterday, that's some serious selling. This is more than Trump. So I was just on that sub Race to 10 Million. We're in trouble. People are overleveraged and dumb enough to think that a 3% dip from all time highs is a great place to buy. The fact that that sub even exists is a red flag. Not to mention all the new people in it asking liars to show them how to make $10m. I'm down to OPEN, GLD (was already up 17%, doubled the position EOD yesterday), EUAD, EWG, VGK, SPY and a ton of cash. Going to make 4% on it until it's time to buy. I don't have anyone to rant about markets to besides my partner and they can only hear so much of it. Plus they were sitting next to me yesterday when I started watching price action and dumping positions. I really thought we could run more. Bummer. I have nobody to talk to so I'm ranting at you guys. This sucks, I thought NVDA could break $200 and that SPY had another 20% in it. Alas.
What? VT is +4% over S&P YTD. VXUS is +11%. VGK is up 14%. AAXJ is up 12%. If you don't believe in the US market right now, VT and similar are only barely diversifying out of it.
Is anyone else heartbroken this isn't the week VGK recovers from the 2008 finial crisis? It hasn't hit an ATH in 6,554 day 😢 I really thought from all of the Reddit posts about how great Europe is it would recover by now. One day it will reach $82.09 again, then eventually it'll beat the inflation adjusted amount too! Europe is the future!
I did back in February. It's a bad idea to look at the S&P hitting new highs in a vacuum. Ok it's hitting highs. what if you adjust for the fact that the dollar lost over 15% of its value vs the Euro this year? What if you also consider the opportunity cost of not investing in other countries' index funds instead? For example, VGK is Vanguard's EU large cap index fund. Like VOO for the EU. Its outperforming the S&P500 by more than 13%!
That's because VGK crated last December. Go back 1 year and VGK is only up 17.2% while VOO is up more than that.
YTD. VGK performance of 28.17% vs 14.2% VOO.
I'm out on US ETFs. I'm not playing chicken with whatever depression shitshow Trump is cooking up. I'm expecting the dollar go continue losing value vs major foreign currencies, and for other countries to take advantage of the idiocracy by reducing the importance and involvement of the US in international trade. VXUS (+26.91%), AAXJ (+29.57% YTD)(large and mid cap companies in Asia excluding Japan), VGK (+28.74%)(vanguard European index)
Outside of short term bonds, IEMG, GLD, and VGK are my biggest holdings right now, in that order. I did pretty well this year and there is just too much risk, imo, here in the US. Good chance I will get back in Jan 1 win, lose, or draw.
No need to flee to cash ( unless you see a near term opportunity to buy a dip. ). Re-allocating some to international markets that are operating at a more sane P/E ratio and have currencies that are getting stronger relative to the dollar is completely warranted. Plenty of short term investments that are better than MMF. Going 70/30 with equities on one side and bonds/commodities on the other makes lots of sense. Personally holding: \~ 70% VUG ( US Large Cap ) VGK ( European Large Cap ) IEMG ( Emerging Markets ) \~20% IAU ( Gold ) \~10% VTIP ( Inflation Protected Treasuries \[ Cash Equiv \] ) The gold and VTIPS damp down on the volatility of VUG and have allowed the overall portfolio to outperform the S&P. When current US monetary, trade and immigration policy come home to roost ( sometime in the next few years ) there will be an opportunity to buy US equities on the dip. In the meantime, an inflationary currency will continue to push equity and commodity prices higher so enjoy the ride.
Not sure who the target of your post is, but I've literally had my best year of investing in my entire life by fucking off to international stocks in January and avoiding the mess in the US. I'm up over 85% on my EUAD stocks. I'd be up only about 10% if I had left that same money in VOO over the same time frame. Even my safer VGK stocks are still up like 25% in the same time frame.
In your scenario, your investment would indeed be worth $1200 due to currency appreciation. When the euro strengthens against the dollar, your euro-denominated assets automatically gain value when converted back to USD. So even if the underlying stocks in VGK didn't change, you'd see a 20% gain from exchange rate movement. This is why international investing introduces currency risk/opportunity - your returns aren't just from stock performance, but also forex fluctuations. Always factor in potential currency impacts when investing internationally.
VGK is up 26% YTD? Why only pick the DAX lol
...and I believe VGK is not hedged.
Lmfao VGK hasn't recovered from October 31st, 2007 when the ATH was 82.09. That is almost 17 years of not hitting an ATH, not even including inflation. Maybe this is the year Europe finally recovers.
Hope you had fun missing out on stocks like Nvidia, Palantir, Microsoft, and more. Idk where you’re getting your numbers from, the S&P500 vs VGK 1 year performance charts aren’t showing a huge difference between the 2, they’re basically neck & neck. Fuck Reddit lmao. Same Reddit with biased, power tripping mods that do work for free for a publicly traded multi-bullion dollar company.
I have two EFT’s. One Euro (VGK) one US (VTI). VGK is up 24.86% YTD. VTI is up 8.42% YTD. Reddit might have been right on that one.
FWIW, here’s how I’d go about it: - 50% in European Large-Cap Equities ETF: Track broad European stocks. Use Vanguard FTSE Europe UCITS ETF (ticker: VGK on Euronext, but confirm UCITS version; expense 0.08%). This captures EU growth from fiscal stimulus (e.g., defense spending up 50% in 2025 outlooks, banks +28%). - 20% in European Small-Cap Equities ETF: For higher growth potential (small caps historically outperform large by 2-3% annually). Use iShares MSCI Europe Small-Cap UCITS ETF (IEUS; expense 0.40%). Focuses on undervalued EU small firms (e.g., tech/manufacturing in Germany/Netherlands). - 20% in Emerging Markets ex-US ETF: Growth from Asia/LatAm/Africa. Use iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets UCITS ETF (EMIM; expense 0.18%). Excludes US/China-risks; emphasizes India/Southeast Asia for 4-6% expected returns. Accepts currency fluctuation (e.g., INR/EUR swings ~15% historically). - 10% in Euro-Denominated Bonds ETF (10k €): For stability and income (2-3% yield). Use iShares Euro Government Bond UCITS ETF (IEGA; expense 0.15%). Tracks safe EU sovereign bonds (e.g., German/French); low volatility, shields from equity dips. Do an annual review and rebalance; sell if any asset deviates >5%.
I still don't trust the data out of chinese corporations. Also, zoom out to the 5+ year chart compared to the S&P 500. The YTD return on MCHI is about the same as VGK where there is more trust in the entities and the audits of financial statements of those companies.
Diversify. Holding the SP500 is not a diverse portfolio, it is mostly directional bet on 7 tech companies at the moment. Consider foreign market ETFs, like VGK (Europe) VEU (World minus US). This gives you some currency hedge as well. If all of your investments are tied to the dollar you don't have a diverse portfolio. A dollar decline of 25-30 percent is not off the table, and is the stated goal of the administration. So, in real terms when compared to other markets the gains may not be impressive.
I'm like 70% S&P, 10% VGK (europe), and 20% cash/bonds. I had never bought international until Nov 2024. VGK has been my best performer YTD. I think of VGK as a hedge against policy driven US inflation and intentional dollar devaluation.
It’s a small component, about 5%. About a third are VGK, VXUS, and VOO. This is also separate from my Roth IRA
No problem. I used to invest in VGK, FLGB, and FLJP before a financial advisor pointed out to me that VEA is basically a more diversified automatically rebalanced version of what I was manually doing with those ETFs.
It is a YTD statistic. Look at VOO compared to VGK ytd. If you bought Jan 1 you would have been up 24% on euro index funds and you would be up 10% on the US index fund.
US market has gone up less than foreign markets. The devaluation of the dollar is a contributor to the stock market going up. For a comparison between US and European index funds, compare VOO to VGK ytd.
Anything better than VXUS or VEA or VWO or VGK?
For yourself, I’d do 15-20% of your net income MINUS your Roth, at least for yourself Ex: you make $100,000/yr after taxes (just using easy numbers). Roth is $7000 max, so you’d invest roughly $670/mo. Talk to a financial planner or wealth manager who is a FIDUCIARY. I am neither and know just enough to do well or fall flat on my face. For your kid, you’d want to maximize growth growth. So if you have $1000 to invest annually, maybe $200 in VOO, $600 in QQQ, $150 in VGK, and $50 in SCHD. Again, talk to a wealth management or financial advisor who is a fiduciary
I’m assuming you’re just looking for growth and everything to be as simple as possible. There’s nothing wrong with VOO and chill. If you want a little more grow, 2/3 QQQ and 1/3 VOO is good too (assuming recurring monthly investments). If you want to add in Europe for more diversification, throw in some VGK. You could even play with SCHD for the long-term (30 year) dividend annual income for your kid. It all depends on what your goal is. Just want to give you options For me, I max out my Roth IRA (I’ll stop in two more years; I’ll let time do the rest), pay into my pension plan, and also invest
$5k of VGK sold midday yesterday to get in to AMZN
Hey everyone! I am in my 30s and I am trying to plan a low to moderate risk portfolio that would help me grow my money. From various income sources, after expenses (which are v low for me as I live very simply), I am able to save around 10-12k usd a month. Currently, I keep more than 50% in a fixed deposit at 6% p.a. (i do a 1-3 month deposit and keep reinvesting the principal and interest at the same rate, so it also compounds), and the rest in ETFs. For ETFs, 50% of my investments are in VOO & the rest spread across various things like VXUS, VTI, VGK, Gold, silver, etc. However, since early this year I have only been adding about 2k a month to VOO and putting the rest of my savings (8-10k) in the fixed deposit. I know this is a very conservative investment strategy & I want to do more with my money- so any advice on how I could balance my portfolio better to achieve higher returns while still being low risk would be very helpful. Thank you in advance!
I don’t see that at all. SPY outperformed VGK by 2%. SPY outperformed DAX and EURO600 by 6% The 4% difference between those two represents what an investor would make at the forex markets actually moving into euros.
You're misunderstanding. Europe told the TACO to shove it and he backed down as usual. Don't look outside of any front page subteddit. They all have lies. EU is strong and the future, this is the year VGK/Europe reaches an ATH from 2008, only 17 years 💪💪
Maintaining my position in RKLB, Google, and VGK. Otherwise I’m holding until the market has a minor correction. A lot of valuations are up too much since April, it’s a matter of waiting right now
There are several reasons and some include the following: 1. Allocation into uncorrelated assets or different asset classes. In your example -you are simply referencing equities. But an investor may want a fixed income fund, a commodities fund, crypto, etc. as part of their portfolio allocation. 2. Concentration in a sector - An investor holding a US-only large cap fund like an S&P 500 fund may want to have a higher concentration in some other US-only large cap sector like enery so they may also add XLE to their portfolio or whatever sector they are interested. 3. Concentration in a geography - an investor holding a world equity ETF may want to have a heavier weighting and exposure to European equities so may add something like VGK. There are lots of other reasons as well - but these are probably some of the more common reasons.
Also since I forgot to say, if you do want Europe stocks then yeah, VGK seems fine.
American thinking about building a European portfolio, any thoughts? VGK and chill?
RSP is up 55% since its pre-pandemic peak vs SPY up 86%. VGK is up only 31% by comparison, EEM up 5%, VXUS up 22%. If you're concerned about the top-heavy nature of the S&P500, equal weight US equities is still probably a better route than diversifying internationally. There is a lot of great companies in the US outside the top 10.
Maybe a short term trend, especially due to forex shifts, but tough to see it sustainably lasting long-term. If you look at a Europe ETF, for example VGK, the largest sectors are financials (a lot of banks) and industrials. Only 8% is technology. So if you're just throwing money into an index, it doesn't sound like a very attractive option to me. European companies face stricter regulations, higher energy costs, stagnating populations, more fragmented end markets, and there is less overall emphasis on generating returns for shareholders relative to the US. In Asia, Japan and South Korea also face secular problems like stagnant populations as well as low prioritization of shareholders. You can't own anything in China, so that makes them largely uninvestable. Taiwan is interesting but why not just buy TSMC since they're already driving a large portion of the country's success? Outside of a few companies and niches, much of tech dominance is from the US. Tech is a large driver of future growth. Not sure it's worth passing on that, even for political reasons that are likely short-lived.
Do what the slack jawed yokel says. VGK is a great European ETF, and it doesn't hedge currency risk. Mostly the USD is weakening vs the Euro, and the European stock markets are at a much lower P/E than the US, and are also growing due to inflows. Although many are also at all time highs, it might be a bit late to the party.
These are all very different funds that seek to provide equity exposure to different parts of the world. VEA - tracks the FTSE developed all cap ex US. This tracks companies in developed countries primarily in Canada, Europe, Asia. And of all different market cap. VGK - tracks European companies only VPL - tracks Asia-Pacific companies only. FLCA - tracks Canadian companies only.
What is the difference between VEA vs. VGK + VPL + FLCA? Other than expense ratio?
What is the difference between VEA vs. VGK + VPL + FLCA? Other than expense ratio?
Maybe then, VGK can finally recover from the 2008 American Housing crisis. Of course not including inflation, but the share price might finally hit a new ATH after 6,000 days!!! EU is the future!
VGK is the Europe ETF and it is denominated in USD but unhedged. Meaning of USD goes down compared to the Euro VGK goes up
Nice train of thought though one simply needs to look at the equivalent of the Euro S&P500 like VGK to realize that this year, euro stocks win YTD by a large margin. The tides are shifting.
YTD the S&P is up about 5%. I moved out of S&P on Feb 17th (the Monday after Vance’s speech at the Munich Security Conference) and into European defense contractors as well as VGK, ILF, EWS and FNORX. My YTD return is about 13.5%. No matter what US stocks do, I’m not coming back until this administration is in the rearview.
I'm playing the reverse game: buying into the EU stocks which are at a much more reasonable P/E and harvesting the currency appreciation vs the dollar. VGK all day.
Whoa I had to look that up, and yep, Europe (by the ETF VGK) is up 21% vs 4% for the S&P. ~0.5% more when dividends are added in.
VGK (Vanguard Europe) +20% YTD SPY +3.85% YTD. The last time the USD declined in the manner it has recently was 2002 post dot com and the dollar index declined until 2008. That was the last time international has outperformed in the manner it has this year.
Other countries can still have profitable corporations without a functioning US government. European defense contractors have already seen increased valuations. I like VGK as a European index fund.
Three days after JD Vance’s speech in Munich I sold all my VOO and bought European defense companies, VGK, FNORX, ILF and EWS. I don’t want any part of the American or Chinese economies. I wish them/us well, but I’m not putting any more there than I have to.
I started with EUAD and switched to NATO because it had several EU defense companies that EUAD did not (like Dassault). I’ve also put funds into VGK (Vanguard’s European markets ETF), and also added FLGR (Franklin Templeton’s Germany ETF). Yes I know there will be “overlap” and I’m fine with it. Germany is really going all in on defense and will become the European leader in that regard. Global X has a defense ETF that is a decent mix, but I liked how NATO really did include more European defense companies than EUAD.
I would have a pretty hard time selling US stocks now, considering that you can't sell things you don't own. I have 90% of my investments in Europe, and 90% of that is Rheinmetall, so I'm not missing any opportunities either. 4% in cash, 2% in the index, or 200% in Rheinmetall, it's not a difficult choice. Granted I bought a bit late and it took me longer to go all in, so I didn't get all of that, but +66% over a few months isn't bad. I think I might be taking slightly more risk than is advised, so I'll probably start investing my paychecks into VGK rather than Rheinmetall, but regardless I absolutely have my money where my mouth is.
I did a similar strategy but used Vanguards VGK fund.
Shut up, this is the year VGK might finally recover* from the 2008 financial crash. Europe is so strong it only took over 6,000 days to recover from the American housing crisis. *does not include inflation, VGK would need to hit around 122 and it's unfair to expect Europe to recover from that within 17 years.
Lots of Europe, lots of international defense. As for China, I’m only exposed to their stocks within emerging markets ETFs. All have done really well this year. See performance charts for EUAD, SHLD, VGK, SCHE, VEA, VYMI for reference. I also bought some GRAB as a single international stock.
I moved some investments from VIG to VGK. That gave me a +20% difference YTD. I also moved some VXF to CDs and Bonds at 4.5% rates. VXF is down YTD so I have saved myself some percentage points there too. I've continued to buy S&P funds in my 401k (got my annual bonus in April). So I'm very happy with my moves. I figure I gave myself an additional year of retirement.
Been doing VGK and VXUS since Orangeman started going crazy . Both been doing fairly well. Can always just do VT as well. More international exposure is definitely needed in everyone’s portfolio these days.
Is there a reason you're buying Euros instead of VGK? I don't see how the Euro could do well without VGK also doing well, and it's a lot easier to buy
Let's see, since 🥭 took office the US index is down about 5%, and Rheinmetall is up about 200%. Even EUAD is up 60%, and if you ignore defense entirely and just buy VGK, you're still up 20%. Maybe 🥭 will decide to stop ruining the economy tomorrow, and the US economy will recover. But even if it does, that isn't going to necessarily collapse the European economy, so I'll have plenty of time to move money back into the US while remaining ahead of people who stayed.
VGK gonna tank like tomorrow.
I've been using the liquidity over the past few days to dollar cost average out of small caps and mid caps, and some voo, and moving a bit to cash, and a bit to VGK. as the dollar goes down and the euro stays solid, VGK will go up. I've also moved some money into yen stocks in Japan. I'm looking for value stocks now, I thought oil has bottomed so I bought some of the oil majors, which give good dividends, and I think the pharma stocks are a reasonable value now too. Once the bond yields go up a bit more, I might start sliding into us debt, but I could see it maybe hitting 6% first. I don't really know if there's a way out of it, I'm not trying to make money on the way down, mostly just trying to keep capital to buy in lower.
Bruh, you literally didn't argue against a single point. VGK literally hasn't recovered look it up. I'm not wasting my brain power on you, get blocked.
I do this, and it even works for ETFs in your retirement accounts. But it doesn't give some huge amount either. I think I may have made like 20 bucks or something last year loaning out VGK.
[https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/EWG/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/EWG/) (US stock mkt slightly down YTD) [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EHSI/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EHSI/) (Germany stock market +27% YTD) [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VGK/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VGK/) (EU up +17%) [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IVV/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IVV/) (Hong Kong stock market +15% YTD) [Mainlaind China stock market +3.5% YTD](https://www.google.com/search?q=shanghai+index+ytd&sca_esv=e4784d011bb8751d&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS810US810&sxsrf=AHTn8zrIB7kbqcrH8tfH9ClAgfUQtn9JdA%3A1747138973092&ei=nTkjaK6rBa-4wN4PgrXcgQU&ved=0ahUKEwju7fTut6CNAxUvHNAFHYIaN1AQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=shanghai+index+ytd&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiEnNoYW5naGFpIGluZGV4IHl0ZDIPECMYgAQYJxiKBRhGGPoBMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyGRAAGIAEGIoFGEYY-gEYlwUYjAUY3QTYAQFI7xNQggVYxxJwAXgBkAEAmAF2oAGQBaoBAzAuNrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCB6ACsAbCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgINEAAYgAQYsAMYQxiKBcICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgUQABiABMICChAAGIAEGBQYhwLCAgsQABiABBiRAhiKBZgDAIgGAZAGCboGBggBEAEYE5IHAzEuNqAHsDuyBwMwLja4B5sG&sclient=gws-wiz-serp) I don't appreciate being call a liar by someone who can't be bothered to look up basic things like stock returns.
Nice never heard if VGK. Luckily I am already up on VXUS. Funny I did not even know that this etf was up 11% YTD. I am so used to setting and forgetting but then when I do look I am barely above cost basis on VXUS lol so this was a nice surprise.
I wouldn't concentrate on Europe specifically. VXUS is the whole world minus the US. If you don't already hold non-US stocks, this is the best way to start. Maximal diversification, tiny fees. If you really want to focus just on Europe, the VGK covers the whole Eurozone and also has low fees.
*sigh* VGK over 1 year is 7.32% SPX is 11.77% And when are you going to switch back? VOO has absolutely murdered VGK over any span of time (except, I guess, these last few months). Don't time the market, you might get lucky (like you did) but long term you'll lose to the market.
VGK is up 16.7% ytd while VOO is flat. I'm still proud of myself for reallocating away from the S&P and into VGK, GOLD, and JBSAY.
I’ve been waiting for a bump like this to continue getting out of VOO and moving at least half my portfolio to VGK (and other geographically diversified markets). I’ll probably pull the trigger in the next 48 hours.
I'm already 25% VGK and 10% cash, but I might aught to sell half my is stuff and keep it cash
1. Putting money into short term tbills. 2. Not putting more money into our brokerage accounts. Only rebalancing (selling small caps, some tech) and moving into more international funds (like VGK, VXUS). Retirement accounts not making changes except about 15% more into international. 3. We already live well below our means (we could each buy new cars in cash, move into a way nicer and bigger apartment), so we cutting expenses won't be a significant change. Maybe we skip a dinner or event once a month? 4. Making sure we are in good health by exercising, doing our doctor and dentist visits and eating healthy 80% of the time. 5. Maintaining our Honda and Toyota to make sure they continue to run for another 10 years (they are already 10 years old+) 6. Me personally, I'm working on my technical skills with online classes just in case I need to look for a new job. Doesn't help with inflation directly though. Brushing up my resume and keeping an eye open for new positions if they seem like a better industry (my company does manufacturing overseas).
>If the US really sinks permanently, it’s taking the world with it for awhile This exactly. Look at long term charts of FXI and VGK - you're going to very disappointed compared to SPY/VOO and QQQ. No matter how you feel about the guy in office, why do you think the US has any leverage in the tariff ordeal? It's because all these countries rely on exports to the US, as the US is the largest economy in the world. All of these countries also need the debt the US owes them. Anyone thinking other countries can just break ties with the US like it's some grade school relationship is grossly misinformed.
Leftover money from my paycheck is going into short term tbills (Am I the only one still buying tbills?) and SPAXX for my emergency fund and my wedding fund lol. In my brokerage account I'm not adding to it and selling some tax lots that are losers and rebalancing it to international funds like VGK or VXUS or moving it to tbills. I'm really considering selling most of my brokerage account and sitting on the gains since the ultimate goal was to buy a condo. As for my 401k and Roth, I haven't changed the contributions but I am putting more towards international stocks and maybe more alternatives. SPECULATION: Shit is going get so violable with this clown in office that I think that many people will be foreclosed or short sell or sell off their house and many buyers who were in the market, might hesitate bring housing prices down. I also think there will be less competition from foreign buyers looking to buy property in the US. Cause you know, we don't like foreigners apparently and probably same with foreign investors. So might be so crazy and depressing that it might be a good time if you are a buyer.
~~VOO and chill?~~ VGK and get rich.
There where a ton of options in 2010. You had VEA, VGK and VWO for example. Also what's the point of "filtrred through a US basis" when talking about the US? ADRs move the same one as the underlyng asset.
VGK/Euro markets or currency seems better than holding USD.
Thanks! I'd be happy if I was wrong but I see the next 5 years in the market as likely less exciting and at least somewhat similar to the post dot com with the added twist of tariffs/heightened geopolitics (more detail in this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k17w7n/the_most_historically_similar_period_to_the_past/mnk124e/?context=3) I think (understandably) we got to a point in the last couple of years where many retail investors had little/no international allocation because of the outperformance of the US over more than a decade. The last time international meaningfully outperformed was around 2002-2008. If you look at this year, the Vanguard Europe etf VGK is up about 15% and the SPY is down about 5%. That's certainly meaningful outperformance and I think that there's a good possibility that continues over the next 5 years, although there may be a US recession towards the front end of that period. I don't think international is going to be somehow immune from a US recession, although best case scenario it loses less comparatively (and if there is a US recession that also sees further dollar weakness - as you've seen this year - that may encourage further foreign unwind of US assets and more $ flowing back overseas.) So I don't think that someone should move all their money to international but I think a lot of people probably have 0% or something near there and 20% seems very fair/reasonable to start with if we finally are getting into a period where international outperforms again after a very (very) long time. I think people have had the same playbook for more than a decade because hey, it's worked very well but the Mag 7 MAGS etf is still down 14% YTD and the Vanguard tech etf is -12% vs the SPY down 5%. Definitely doesn't mean people can't/shouldn't have US tech/growth at all, but imo I think there's a definite possibility that you won't be able to rely on those things in the next 5 years in the manner that you have for the last 5 (and the performance of growth in 2020/21 bubble and then 2023/24 I think created unrealistic expectations.) So, I think there's a very good chance the next 5 years in the market are less compelling than the last 5, are moderately more volatile and will likely require at least moderately more diversification (style, globally) than in the last 10. I think anyone buying individual stocks, I think the next 5 years are likely going to require more stockpicking and less reliance on a set of popular names like it's been over much of the last 10+ years. I don't think you can't use commodity futures etfs, but I'd really research to make sure they aren't structured as partnerships. Not a recommendation, but HARD is an example of a commodity futures etf (in this case a long/short one) advertising itself as "no K-1!" on the website. You can see a list of commodity etfs here: https://etfdb.com/etfdb-category/commodities/. Some do generate K-1s, some do not and have "no k-1" in the name, some don't but don't have it in the name.
VGK literally just goes up every day. eurorich not a meme anymore
You need to start cautiously- especially in this very difficult where literally a tweet can send the market crashing or soaring. You should invest mostly in broad sector ETF’s like SPY QQQ but also overseas oriented ETF’s like Vanguard’s VGK which is an ETF of top European companies. Europe has performed much better than the US since Trump came into office. And it’s very possible that Trump’s trade tariffs will severely weaken the US market. You should also consider putting money into top bond funds. These can be corporate and long or short term treasuries. Treasuries have gotten riskier recently thanks to Trump. See if you can get access to Morningstar. They rate ETF’s and Mutual Funds and do a great job of assigning scores. Most small cap stocks are low quality- especially the pre revenue ones. If you must buy individual stocks buy a small amount to see how they handle swings.
I'm creeping back in. Seems that 🥭 is quietly rolling back the tariffs. Sold puts on VGK and got assigned right around my strike. Made some sweet preem too. Deciding on what to do next. Maybe sell CCs on my NVDA stock and move it into some indexes.
Big after hours pump in VGK. Why do the algos love Europe?
Ignoring BNDX, better than 95% of the holdings in VWO, VGK, and VPL are already covered by VXUS. While VXUS covers the markets except US, you're extra holdings are adding weight to everything else that isn't Canada or the Middle East. Why?