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Chinese electric vehicle company BYD in talks for potential acquisition of lithium producer in Brazil -Sigma Lithium, for a supply agreement
If you own VWAGY/VWAPY shares do you also own the companies under its umbrella?
Which Volkswagen stock to buy for ppl not in Europe?
Volkswagen subsidiary Škoda Auto outlines EV expansion plans (OTCMKTS:VWAGY)
VW subsidiary Škoda eyes entry to Vietnam, sale of Russian assets (OTCMKTS:VWAGY)
Volkswagen stock drives higher on bullish 2023 forecast (OTCMKTS:VWAGY)
🦅The Last DD You Will Ever Read 🦅 Here's why September 2022 is the "month of all months" for 'meme' stocks like $BBBY 🦅
How to capitalize on possible arbitrage play with Volkswagen?
what happens to share of a Chinese company that gets delisted
EVs - Some good electric vehicles for near short term: $LCID, $NIO, $XPEV, $LI, $VWAGY, $SOLO🙌 Rivian has confused me and I am skeptical about its correction timeline🤔 Feel free to correct me✌️
$ELEK Bringing Patent Pending EV Recharging Battery Tech to Major EV Companies.
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Calls on VWAGY, VWAPY, PORCY & HORSEY
Agree, Monday could be bonkers with people setting up in advance, plus any commentary from the administration as it winds up throwing gas on the fire. Not sure on the announcement timing Tuesday, so best bet could be to buy late Monday with Wed or Thurs expiration. That’s the other question for me, for industries being targeted who is likely to get hit hardest, US, ex-US, or both? GM/F or VWAGY/TM? INTC or TSMC? PFE or say NVS/GAK/etc.? Or could one rise and one fall?
VWAGY is like already 10$ so I can’t even buy puts, may be it will go down to like 5 by Tuesday
MBGYY VWAGY RNMBY DTEGY EADSY You are welcome.
I'd never invest in a car company period. It's a low barrier to entry, low margin, low scale and cyclical business. As of today TSLA is a car company. Their second largest veritcal of solar and storage is also just a commodity sharing same properties as the car business. All the individual stocks I target have the exact opposite criteria as the above. Your HMC/GMSTLA/VWAGY all underperform the broader indexes in the long run.
VWAGY bitch show me the money
finally saw it get some love here yesterday but VWAGY is the real deal, very cheap valuation for what you're getting
That EV writer also announced that VWAGY scratched the ID.7 from coming to North America but I’d drive the shit out of an ID.Buzz before being seen in a CyborgTruck
Porsche $POAHY and volkawagen $VWAGY start buying or wait more?
VWAGY The more money it loses, the more I love the stock. Unless the stocks completely disconnects from the business, it will rebound eventually. Just ask a Euro-mechanic which car brands he thinks are the best value.
2021 was a bizarre covid year. It's back to where it was pre covid. https://m.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/free-cash-flow
VWAGY play for new hybrid Lamborghini Urus 
I talked to the ceo and uplisting is in the cards for 2025, sometimes I buy ahead of time to gain on the catalyst. Pure otc is garbage but this is an Israelis company listed in Canada and otc symbol is just the dual listing. Similar to Volkswagen trading in frankfurt and otc symbol VWAGY. Do your DD of course. Lots of risk in biotechs always but many times outsize rewards
Barring a recession, I agree that they'll have financial backing. I do think another concern is about their margins. Even if they move a lot of units, they still have to produce efficiencies of scale and get their margins to profitability. Automakers in general are poorly valued (look at VWAGY) compared to other sectors. I like Rivian, they make well engineered and manufactured vehicles. But they still need to prove out they can be a great business.
Agreed. It's coming. And there's the weird VWAGY VWAPY deal, the weird Porsche deal, the weird OTC deal. I think it all holds the stock back really. But still, if it's 6% yield plus some upside, I'm in for a little.
In 2024 through August, both TSLA and VWAGY are down 13%. This is worse for TSLA given its valuation, but VW's long term growth seems to be in question.
Then why is my VWAGY still in the shit house?
AMD, BMO, VWAGY ( pays over 8%) , These are all very undervalued. Im using Morningstar as my source. Just bought more AMD today. Missing VWAGY by a bit
Its def Chinese cars and the future of EVs. They may have great earnings now but as evs take over if you get left behind you lose all of your investment. I like TM. I like Volkswagen but their industry is brutal. VWAGY has a pe of less than 4 and a dividend of 8%.
why is VWAGY in the gutters? morningstar says 3 bagger.
Idk where you’re getting your numbers from but $VWAGY is 58b EUR, $POAHY is 6.4b EUR. Porsche SE $POAHY also owns 12.5% of Porsche AG which makes the actual cars, it has 5.7b EUR of net debt. This comes out to Porsche SE currently trading at 38% of its net asset value.
VWAGY is bleeding money and market value wtf are they doing buying stock in something else
What about VWAGY though?? Jumped a bit- is it gonna run?
Long VWAGY shares. 5.28% dividend yield + new potential with RIVN collab. Eeeeaaasssyy money.
I guess the real question is do we jump back into VWAGY again or not. Made me a pretty penny during covid
I loaded ALTM @ 4.65. So if post merger price had to be $12.47, then I am waiting minimum of $10 in 1-2y horizon. Great upside opportunity considering ALTM marketcap is $4.5B and should be somewhat $10.6B. I do not believe it to go lower than $4. Only yesterday +10% on good ALB/SQM news due to "Chile opens lithium salt flats." Also worth noting: Elon Musk Is Betting On Lithium And I Am Too With Lithium Argentina Tesla - Is building a lithium refinery in Texas as well as signing new lithium supply agreements with Piedmont Lithium (PLL). BYD - Is considering a car plant in Mexico. Exxon - Is expanding next door to Standard Lithium in Arkansas to get into Lithium. Shell (SHEL) - Closing hydrogen fuel stations in California. Ford - Is waking up and smelling the inflation coffee. They plan on producing cheaper EV's. Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY) - Still pushing forward with EV. The company plans on pushing out 25 models of EV by 2030. John Deere (DE) - Is making an EV tractor. EnerSys - Selects South Carolina for a $500 million EV Battery plant.
I just invest in things I like/think are cool. META/AAPL (VR), NVDA/AMD (AI/computer graphics), VWAGY (for Porsche, Bugatti, and Rimac) GOOGL (YouTube). A few others but those are my main holdings
Net profit last quarter: $TM made $8.9B $STLA made $6.07B $VWAGY made $4.48B $TSLA made $1.85B $HYMTF made $2.47B They all grew Y/Y except for Tesla. P/B: $TM 1.08x $STLA 0.88x $VWAGY 0.32x $TSLA 15.55x $HYMTF 0.57x Imagine being a deluded tsla cucks thinking stock is undervalued
F, GM, STLA, VWAGY, etc... they're all profitable. And before you gatekeep, they're absolutely EV companies. Even if they are majority still ICE, they have growing portions of their offerings being EV and will continue to grow market share. TSLA is pretty capped out on market share, and unless something significant happens they're just going to continue losing market share as more companies grow their portfolios. They're also not dependent on the image of a single person in their companies. TSLA stock is HEAVILY dependent on what one lunatic tweets out day-to-day. That's not an investment. That's a speculation.
From what I'm reading it makes 0 difference, besides VWAGY having voting power. But voting power is irrelevant unless you got big money. Occasionally investors observe spreads on the share prices between the two share classes and attempt arbitrage plays.
Bought VWAGY instead of VWAPY, is this a big mistake or are the shares similar enough to where it shouldn't be a big deal?
Is the equivalent of $T but in Europe. Is cheap as fuck as well. But zoom out the chart, the stock goes nowhere. And if you are looking for cheap&profitable carmakers check also Volkswagen [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VWAGY](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VWAGY)
VWAGY seems undervalued with limited downside at this point. Thoughts?
I'd use net income, rather than operating income. Not 100% sure about this data (things get weird on some sites with European stocks and exchange rates), but here's what I see for net income in billions of Euros: |2013|2014|2015|2016|2017|2018|2019|2020|2021|2222| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |9.1B|11B|\-1.4B|5.4B|11.5B|12.1B|13.9B|8.9B|15.4B|15.4B| That doesn't capture the last few quarters. TTM, they're down to 12.6B, and that may fall further as the air comes out of COVID-induced car price balloon, as Germany struggles with high energy costs, and as interest expenses creep up on their gigantic pile of debt. Automobiles are a competitive field with high capex, so usually aren't afforded high valuation multiples. VW has historically traded with an EV/EBITDA under 10. Right now it's around 9, close to its long-term average, suggesting it's now fairly valued and was previously a bit inflated. Also, they pay out giant dividends, so we should expect the share price to underperform. I see a 15% share price decline in the last 5 years (looking at VWAGY rather than the German listing), but 2% total return.
Have you considered the D/E of companies owned by VAG such as Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, etc? I don’t own VWAGY but I’m just curious.
Source for your numbers? Bc I'm looking at US-listed VWAGY as my Volkswagen ticker and i'm seeing negative (12%) yoy earnings growth (but otherwise decent financials and a 7.25% dividend/36.77% payout ratio)
The only one of these that makes sense at all is VOO. Try investing in real, established companies. If your looking for undervalued opportunities check out DIS, AAL, F, VWAGY, and TGT. Then you can do your speculative gambles with like 1% of your account lol.
Look into getting some VWAGY, AAL, F, and DIS.
You are WAY too diversified. Carrying large cap ETFs with just $200 will stagnate your entire account (hence just $8 of movement in a month). With only $200 you will find most success being what’s called a Bottom Feeder. This is someone who searches for stocks that have underperformed the market and are looking for them to rebound, they don’t necessarily need to be penny stocks. I’d recommend some combo of things like $MPW, $NKLA, $ZUMZ, $VWAGY, $SWKH, $IEP to give your account more upside. These stocks come with more volatility so put no more than 25% of your cash in any one of them, especially $NKLA.
Couple I bought this week that I think may have bottomed (knock on wood): VWAGY, WBA, CVS, ENPH, VOD
$VWAGY I’m a fanboy, I figured Id normally dump an equivalent if not higher amount of money on parts for my VW anyway. So if anything, my investment was really just a reserve for parts. Plus I’m very bullish on their EV plans, and it’s the stock who I knew I’d be most willing to hold very long term come hell or high water. Helped me learn to keep my nerves and not sell the second it went red.
Why is no one interested in $VWAGY?
VWAGY is an ADR on VW common shares, and VWAPY is an ADR on VW preferred shares
I've been through this multiple times but it never sticks. Can someone remind me the difference between VWAGY and VWAPY?
I did have shares in VWAGY. Offloaded them about a month or so ago. I'm extremely disappointed in their progress. They still complain about supply chain shortages, but as one of the largest auto manufacturers in the world, they failed to procure their resources when most other EV manufacturers have got past most vital supply chain issues. Additionally, at this point it's evident that they failed on Electrify America.
$1.5M Bugatti watches, [complete with tiny 16-cylinder engine built into mechanism](https://jacobandco.com/timepieces/bugatti-chiron-tourbillon-rosegold). Plus it tells time. In 2023, right on your wrist! That's all the stock research I need to do. Long $VWAGY
Dude! Drop those crappy stocks Not sure about Intel, I think they got screwed when apple cut the cord on them. If I were you I'd stay by buying some BRK.B to balance my account a little. MSFT is the big heavy stock you relay on only rising with a slow motion. Personally I always preferred Europe's cat companies over American so I've invested in BMWYY, VWAGY for nice value and dividend. Ferrari for the dream (I'm up 50% on average on all 3). Yum is a good stock, along with cava and KO, and MCD. Let me know if you want some more solid reliable longer term investments
I got a huge dividend from BMWYY & VWAGY Don't know if it will be the same amount next time but it was around $40 per $1000
Ticker symbol $VWAGY They also fight $TM for the title of most indebted company in history
# Two of of the top five automakers from conference call 📷 Top 5 global automakers: [#1](https://stocktwits.com/topic/1) Volkswagen AG (VWAGY) [#2](https://stocktwits.com/topic/2) Toyota Motor Corp. ( TM) [#3](https://stocktwits.com/topic/3) Stellantis (STLA) [#4](https://stocktwits.com/topic/4) Mercedes Benz AG (MBGYY) [#5](https://stocktwits.com/topic/5) Ford Motor Co. ( F) From CC: John Chen said about Blackberry: "This quarter we recorded wins with 2 of the top-5 global automakers. The first win includes our real-time operating system, as well as our hypervisor, and acoustics middleware. The second win will deploy 2 instances of QNX, supporting the digital cockpit and main body domain, both running on high performance compute engines."
Stock traders often criticize $CCL like an emotionally abusive husband criticizes his wife. The wife excels, but the husband still finds fault lol. husband: smacks wife* 👋"you missed a spot!", "why are you so dumb!" ,"be more like $tsla she’s the future!" Wife says: "sorry sweaty…but $tsla is selling waaayyyy over her intrinsic value when compared to $tm & $VWAGY" Husband: smacks wife* 👋 "shut up woman! Don’t you know Elon musk is the future !, Why don’t you stop reading so much and listen to some joe rogan, educate yourself, smacks wife* 👋" Wife: "sorry baby I’ll try harder, please don’t leave me!" 😭
VWAGY (Not sure which is the right ticker. Lol this thread.)
The Tesla Killer is Volkswagen, I personally prefer my VWAGY but theres more trade volume in VWAPY.
More than F, GM, and VWAGY combined
Tesla's market cap up by F, GM and VWAGY combined in under a month, the second time it has happened this year
I've had this happen with multiple stocks, and I've regretted not selling every time. It happened with NKLA. I'd planned on holding onto it for years thinking they *might* come up with something in a few years. Shortly after I bought I looked into how exactly hydrogen fuel cells worked and suddenly I was regretting my decision to buy (I know, I should have understood the tech *before* buying in). Nevertheless, it doubled in price right after IPO anyway, and I immediately sold-regret nothing. It happened with MVIS. Same story, thought they might make some groundbreaking improvements in self-driving optics hardware in a few years. Shortly after I bought it they got into the news, price jumped 50+% IIRC, and immediately sold knowing there was no way I'd get similar returns long term even if their tech does pan out. Zero regerts. It happened with VWAGY. I thought for sure they were going to have a strong position being one of the first to go electric. At one point I was up 60%, but when I wasn't paying attention they apparently lost a lot of value and the next thing I knew I was cashing out at only around 10-13% ROI. Many regrets. It happened with two of the ARK ETFs (ARKQ and ARKK IIRC). I think I was up about 50% at one point, thinking they were a long term play. Nope, their inordinate share of TSLA holdings fucked me on that one, and again, I wish I'd sold when I saw I'd made huge gains. I'm starting to think I should have sold URI when I had the chance, too. I was up like 30-40%, no it's only about 17%. There is but one rule in trading: buy low, sell high. If you aren't selling when stocks are high you're doing it wrong. And if your investing is meant for retirement, and you don't plan on diligently watching your stocks every day until the day you die, you should probably just use an ETF and let the experts do it for you.
What are your thoughts on $VWAGY for long term?
Is VWAGY a good long term buy?
53% ownership by Porche, so I'd probably overweight on that and whichever currently has a better price between VWAGY and VWAPY.
$VWAGY is my favourite Volkswagen stock, what about you?
Americans are behind on car payments at largest rate since 2009 which is causing repossessions to increase, according to Bloomberg (48.05 +0.09) Bloomberg (potential related stocks: ALLY, SYF, F, GM, STLA, TM, HMC, VWAGY, TSLA)
Yes, according to this, VW has 166b$ in LT debt for a Mkt cap of 85b$. They can easily get crunched by debt. https://ycharts.com/companies/VWAGY/total_long_term_debt Tesla barely has 2b$ and it is paying it down fast. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/long-term-debt In summary car business is a shitty business. Low margin, high debt. Let’s see if Tesla can change this.
VW is more closer to 400b$ in liabilities, it's insane. 387b$ to be exact on latest quarterly report [https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/total-liabilities](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/total-liabilities) ​ Other automakers are not very far...
Tesla's market cap is significantly larger than the largest international automaker ($VWAGY) as well.
yes but net profit in an uncontested market will be different from net profit in a market with dozens of different full EV options. I VWAGY’s trailing-12-month revenue is more than eight times TSLA’s. But TSLA is more profitable, with a gross profit margin of 21% versus VWAGY’s 16.5%. However, VWAGY’s net income margin of 4% compares favorably with TSLA’s 2.3%. People keep saying Tesla has huge margins but they are already shrinking and it is unclear what the actual value of a Tesla is in a contested market. Remember that traditional car makers have a highly successful car business to subsidize their electric cars and steal market share from Tesla.
Your stated value for Tesla was indeed correct, but for Volkswagen I couldn't find what you were referring to. I managed to find a value of 13B from this site, adding up the quarterly net profit for Q1-Q3 2022 https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/net-income
You sound really misinformed. VW has a net debt of $136 billion. Emphasis on net. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VWAGY/balance-sheet?p=VWAGY](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VWAGY/balance-sheet?p=VWAGY) Notice how BAC has all sorts of investment and loan assets on its balance sheet that are not present on VW's. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BAC/balance-sheet?p=BAC](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BAC/balance-sheet?p=BAC) Auto industry is highly levered, and it's not mostly from purchase financing.
So you’re telling me to go all in on VWAGY🧐
Let’s stop raving about TSLA and welcome new lion in town VWAGY
VW overtake Tesla??? NO WAY they have like 257b$ in long term debt, 452b$ in total liabilities. $TSLA total liabilities is 31b$ and they have 17b$ of cash in hand (VW has 73b$) VW is fffffff Source: [https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/balance-sheet](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/balance-sheet)
> They may very well be there but other companies with more cash and resources are also working on it, both traditional tech and car manufacturers and their advantage would be minimal time even if it happens. That's my full quote. So lets talk cash - [Apple has $16B in cash on hand in their latest quarterly street disclosure](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000095017021002253/tsla-20210930.htm#notes_to_consolidated_financial_statemen) Now let's talk about companies with more cash (and better engineering programs) working on autonomous car tech: [Apple](https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/apple-car/) - Who has [$27B in cash, and nearly $100B in cash equivilents](https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/FY22_Q3_Consolidated_Financial_Statements.pdf) [Google](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waymo) not only has a working, functioning example of the technology in Waymo taxis but they also have [$30B in cash on hand](https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/20221025_alphabet_10Q.pdf?cache=e4fe24f) [General Motors] (https://www.gm.com/commitments/path-to-autonomous) is also working on autonmous technology and they have [$20B in cash on hand](https://investor.gm.com/static-files/bc1e2ddb-902c-4bd1-8389-6ae43c27dd09) [Ford is also working on self driving](https://corporate.ford.com/operations/ford-autonomous-vehicles-and-mobility.html) and they have [$20B in cash on hand](https://s201.q4cdn.com/693218008/files/doc_financials/2022/q3/Ford-Q3-2022-10-Q-Report.pdf) Toyota is also working on [autonmous vehicles](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharysmith/2022/01/03/toyota-announces-new-self-driving-auto-software-challenging-vw-and-daimler/?sh=7e9719ce29df) and they have [$49B USD in cash on hand](https://global.toyota/pages/global_toyota/ir/financial-results/2023_2q_summary_en.pdf) Speaking of VW Group and Diamler they also have [more cash on hand than tesla](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VWAGY/volkswagen-ag/cash-on-hand) I guess what Im saying is you're a Grade A Prime USDA dumb fucking cunt.
VWAGY. - The euro should be getting stronger against the dollar over the next year. - Priced for recession - should overtake Tesla as #1 EV sales next year.
Been buying AMKBY, VWAGY, VLVLY and PBR when I can. Last one is Brazil, but the dollar is still wicked strong compared to their currency.
VWAGY has solid leadership with a clear plan to adapt to the future.
I read the article but I'm a moron holding VWAGY; I shouldn't expect to receive any shares of the new company, right? It sounds like ~half the proceeds from the sale will be distributed as a special dividend? ...it doesn't sound like holders of VW stand to benefit much/at all in the long run from this sale...
Oh God, my eyes! Why would you do that to a dead simple P&L? Anyways, 25% margin is great for a car company but 2.5B NBT verse a 1T market cap is 100 P/E. VWAGY's P/E is 5, and they own Lamborghini, Porsche, and Audi. If I were gambling on a car marker, I'd wager VWAGY has more room to grow from 5 than TSLA does at 100.
I had a issue with VWAGY. App showed one price, web page showed another…10 cents apart. Got a little of it gone…. Good little pop
I hold a shit ton of VWAGY ..cant wait!
Porsche IPO this month, does that come out of VWAGY?
Probably VWAGY given the way the market loves the startling upsets. Nobody's out here betting on VWAGY. Bonus if the big winner winds up being the Porche IPO. (No really, it'll be overvalued as hell at IPO, don't be Cathie)
So for those of us holding VWAGY, does any of the magic IPO fairy dust get sprinkled on us?
VW? I was going to look. Can’t find that. Do you mean Volkswagen (VWAGY)?
$NET is a play on a possible 4th cloud provide with insane growth. $S is a stellar cybersecurity company that has the opportunity to catch up to crowdstrike $ADDYY is selling hot items at an incredibly cheap valuation. $VWAGY is going to surpass Tesla in EV sales while it is currently valued as a fraction of the market cap. The brand diversity allows them to sell to every consumer segment (VW, Skoda, Audi, Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti & others). $RIVN is the anti-Tesla with down to earth founder, excellent build quality, KILLER vehicles & ~17B in cash to make their mass market dreams a reality $AXON basically has a growing monopoly on public service software, absolutely fantastic execution/growth. $FCX I believe that Copper shortages are the next headline item, mainly due to EVs, this company will benefit. $RDFN has an amazing product that the market is not valuing appropriately given homes sales are not in a permanent lull. $TECL is a high risk triple leveraged ETF, but it only incorporates the best blue chip stocks so if you want to lever into Microsoft and Apple and the like, this is an interesting way to do it. You need to read about the risks of this instrument though because there are a few bug ones.
I use the regular ticker. For example. Volkswagen, the German car maker isn't listed on US exchanges and trades OTC as VWAGY. If you can buy shares of VWAGY on your trading platform, you can buy/sell OTC.
So you’re saying Puts on VWAGY