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Just hoping to get quick advice. I had a little over $6k in an Acorns taxable brokerage that I withdrew so I can stop paying for Acorns. This was pretty much all of the money I have in the stock market. If I put it all into my HYSA, I’ll break the 3-month emergency savings threshold after my next paycheck. Otherwise I’ll break it by the end of the year. My job’s pretty safe (but shit happens). However with how the stock market has been, I really just want to deposit all of it into my Robinhood and buy some shares of MU, CRDO, WPM, NBIS, etc. and let it sit there for 10+ years I feel like the “mature” play would be to put it all into my HYSA, but I don’t want to miss out on all the upward movement. What do you guys think?
Hot take: He shouldn’t let you invest in individual stocks but should allow index investing. You can invest in individual once you’re 18 and use money from your paychecks. It’s a flawed argument to say “I said a stock would go up and a year or two later it’s much higher so I’m a good investor” Would you have actually held $WPM during the run up or sold after a 5-10% gain? We have all watched stocks rise that we were previously invested in or planned to invest in. A huge part of stock trading/investing is emotions, a small part is stock picking. I’m not sure many 16 year olds have the emotional control to profitably trade over the long term
I am fully aware of all my stocks and have researched them extensively. If I just looked at PE multiple I would have missed massive gains. But also please note when I said I am only accumulating VST, CEG, FNV, WPM, and RGLD right now. The rest I accumulated over the last year. Their current multiples is one of the reasons. On the gold question, the short answer is financial repression keeps interest rates below inflation, causing a negative real rate of return. This debases the currency and gold goes parabolic relative to that currency. The last time the US implemented financial repression was post WW2 and gold went 1700% relative to the dollar. For the long answer, ask your favorite AI.
Your patience will be rewarded. Just don't all in, always diversify. And play gold through compounding proxies like FNV and WPM rather than straight gold.
honestly the stock market is expensive right now alot of companies making up the voo and spy are tech semi conductors with huge PE ratios riding the AI cycle, I think with 7.5k you would be better to invest into Silver Miners or royalty streamers even gold would be a good idea... check out WPM and SILJ I think those will see good returns over the next two years compared to the spy
Mongo is typing on Truth Social with 1 finger right now. It just takes a few minutes at 7 WPM
There are some etfs of stocks designed to perform well during high inflation, like INFL and FCPI. Focus on companies with pricing power that can weather inflation, or companies that own physical assets. Persistent inflation will trigger higher interest rates. You might look at companies that benefit from that. Lenders, banks, and bdcs. The financial sector has underperformed for a while now, might get some time in the sun with rate hikes. Some politicians have been buying bank stocks as well if you follow that. Commodity prices rise when the dollar declines, so many stocks related to them tend to outperform. Gold and silver are the obvious choices, but steel, aluminum, potash, copper, fertilizer, oil, etc will benefit. I'mnot going into detail on PMs or energy stocks as they should be covered elsewhere. If you've been burned or are hesitant to jump into precious metals and miners lately, the invesco commodities etf, DBC, holds futures in 14 different commodities and has done pretty well over the last year. Some other ways to play commodities that might not be on your radar: 1. Shipping freight, BWET tracks tanker futures or wet freight. It has performed spectacularly since the war. I am kicking myself for not getting into this 3 months ago. Up over 800% ytd, and no slowing as long as the strait is closed. The bottom might fall out when it reopens though, so dont forget your stop loss, or sell a call/buy a put (options market is weak AF though so caution there as well) 2. If you like gold and miners but gas prices and geopolitics have you worried about their margins, you might consider streaming companies like Wheaton, WPM, they provide financing to miners in exchange for guaranteed future output from them at rock bottom prices. They profit when commodities are high even if the miners are struggling to break even. They have been beaten up lately as gold prices have fallen, possible buying opportunity? Google "metal streamers", theres a few larger ones and several report earnings next week. For broader exposure, some PM etfs that include streamers are GBUG, GOAU, and METL. Hopefully I've given you somethings to think about! Do your research, I'm not a financial advisor and this is not financial advice, just answering a very good question. I have written WAY more than I intended so my apologies if you're still with me this far. Happy hunting! TL;DR Inflation resistant etfs: INFL, FCPI Discount retail, home goods, auto parts Financials, BDCs, some REITS for higher interest rates Commodities etfs: DBC, BWET, Precious metal streamers, WPM, FNV, RGLD, TFPM, OR PMS ETFS: GBUG, METL, GOAU
got a new laptop yesterday - still working on the keyboard mechs to get that WPM back up... over and out.
Who's regarded enough to go 50% net fortune short DTE OTM options ? I meant on my options account, 8k funded, bought 55 contracts 7DTE 150c WPM for $0.85 (0.16 delta yesterday, saw highest OI on the option chain on that strike). The other $4k i chickened out was 7DTE 116c NBIS, those'd printed so hard but oh well
I prefer gold royalty companies to avoid the collectibles tax on the metal itself. FNV and WPM are the two I’ve been using mostly. RGLD is another one, but is slightly smaller.
Watch out : mining is a very energy intensive sector. The premise they'll expand margins like crazy with future contracts because of the fast rise in underlying commodites is voided if their costs of extraction rise fast and stay high too. If don't have access to forex or etf, stick to WPM or TFPM.
I’ve been long gold and silver stocks for a couple of years and added to my position during the recent pullback. Even with higher oil prices, the increased revenue from rising gold and silver prices should more than offset the impact of higher energy costs. Current mining stocks: AG USAS HYMC SVM WPM PAAS EXK ASM HL FSM
I had wrong WPM. You will be 3-1 then!
Yes but specifically WPM. Their earnings were off the charts, historically metals tend to rebound quicker during times like this. WPM already bottomed at $111. Just set your expiration to something that’s 2-4 months out and you’ll print regardless.
USO - Calls Expiration: July 17 Strike: $130 position size: 30% SPY- Puts Expiration: May 29th Strike: $635 Position size: 40% XOM - Calls Expiration: Jun 18th Strike: $170 Position size: 15% WPM - Call Expiration: May 15 Strike: $140 Position Size: 15%
USO - Calls Expiration: July 17 Strike: $130 position size: 30% SPY- Puts Expiration: May 29th Strike: $635 Position size: 40% XOM - Calls Expiration: Jun 18th Strike: $170 Position size: 15% WPM - Call Expiration: May 15 Strike: $140 Position Size: 15%
GDX is the gold mining ETF, AEM gold mining company, RGLD gold loyalty stream company. SIL silver mining ETF, HL silver mining company, WPM silver loyalty stream company
WPM 165-108 in 3 weeks. 😳
A great silver stock is Wheaton $WPM. Was watching a presentation last week discussing how industrial silver consumption is rising rapidly as Chinese manufacturers begin production this year of EVs with solid state batteries. Apparently each battery requires 1kg of silver.
I’ve been sitting in FNV, WPM, & RGLD for a bit and have no intention of selling anytime soon.
USLM. Any of the metal streaming companies (FNV, WPM, etc ). Airports (OMAB, CAAP).
15 years is an extremely long time, and most businesses can't outperform that long. I'd stick to long term, physical assets. Airports like CAAP/OMAB. Great cash generation and local monopolies. Land/mineral steaming companies. ELE/WPM/LB are examples where they just take a toll on all the other activities they enable. USLM. Limestone is just awesome. Real estate with long runways and recurring revenue. JOE comes to mind.
Eating shit on everything but SCHD and WPM
personally, I will go for the biggest names as a core position both on on gold and silver (which is even more coiled than gold but riskier), in particular AEM, WPM, PAAS, AG and have a couple smaller names with higher risk reward, in particular Ross Beaty's EQX (relatively high AISC being worked on but the guy is nicknamed the broken slot machine for a reason), and VZLA, which is clearly the highest risk but has been sitting in the gutter for the last couple of weeks due to its Cartel issues. No Barrick or Newmont for me for instance as they are redundant with AEM, which is by far the best of the three.
I hopped into AG and NG recently. Both hitting new highs right now but I understand the big guys are NEM, B, AEM, KGC and the like. As well as PAAS, HL, WPM, etc. You are probably right that an ETF might be reasonable for big guys and one focussed on the juniors. I just hate paying their fees, so I'll keep evaluating. Always interested in learning from others. Just starting my research. Been invested in uranium for years and it's paid off well (with much more upside to come) but I think the explosion in silver and gold miners, as they get repriced relative to the run-ups in silver and gold, is much closer at hand. Plan to get better invested for that run up shortly. Any advice on good ways to get better educated welcome!
Your picks lean heavily toward capital-light, pricing-power businesses, which makes sense for a long term compounding strategy. My only question is whether you’re comfortable with the commodity exposure via FNV/WPM.
My WPM 150C are vZck from the dead
Idk why people are still pushing the bag on physical (or the ETF's). Really at this point the mining companies / streamers are where it's at for speculation. Especially like WPM (a royalty streamer) which gives you exposure to gold too, so it doesn't just whipsaw wildly with the price of silver. Both 2025 Q4 earnings and 2026 Q1 earnings are going to be nuts.
Buying silver and gold miners at a discount after the Friday drop. Precious metals will be the last hard asset still standing after the US debt crushes the market. Buying PAAS, WPM. HMY. HMY.
For the layperson, I would do Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM). It's a royalty streamer that is well balanced in gold and silver. One of the least volatile names in the sector.
I’m in FNV which is mining royalties and WPM. I’m also in SILJ
SIL has WPM heavily weighted (22.66% currently) so maybe that has something to do with it? Most silver is produced as a byproduct of mining gold, copper, zinc and lead so if SIL is not composed solely of pure play silver miners, what is happening in those other commodities is going to play a role in returns. WPM itself is not a pure silver play as it has gold streaming deals. Timing also surely comes into play. There may be different starting points where miners do outperform silver over the short/medium term. Long term, IDK... I started buying Jan 27 LEAPs a month ago on SILJ, AG, HL and CDE. They are doing pretty good (+96%, +91%, +98%, +77%). My timing was OK (would have been better to buy them a year ago of course)
Im riding NEM and WPM currently
Long term holder of B, AEM, KGC & WPM
also I was focused on WPM, so yeah CDE slipped my mind
$WPM - great silver mining stock
I'm seeing like \~98% come from gold and silver on WPM, \~2% from other sources. I assumed most silver miners were similar? Thinking of an ETF
There is a large overlap tho. For example WPM has \~30% of its revenue come from silver and \~68% come from gold - despite being the largest % in a silver mining ETF (SIL).
I started adding WPM to my port, streaming style mining company (shovel style) . I’m thinking part of the run is because of project stargate needing 16mil oz of silver to build out their data centers. Feel like the buying could throw off ta and then retail buys based off movement idk, shit is running though
My last 3 buys are CEG, AXON, WPM. Kinda aligned.
There’s a video that shows his typist writing his tweets at like 120WPM.
ALAB, WPM, AXON, CEG AI, Precious Metals, Defense Software, energy for ai.
Depends on your risk tolerance and objectives. Assuming you are okay with volatility, and your objective is not to get rich by sunset, and you want to dig silver, I would look at WPM as a leveraged instrument, and something like January 2027 calls with maximum strike ($165 now). Then I would wait for silver to have a particularly bad day, and put a bit of money in this, then wait for silver to have a particularly good day, take profit, then repeat the cycle with necessary adjustments. Not too many trades, and very hard to screw this up if done methodically.
Time to rotate into the juniors imo, the mega caps may only move hard if there will be degen option plays from the masses. If you still wanna play the majors, AEM, WPM, FNV are fundamentally way better than Barrick.
Fastest WPM goes to 🥭
CEF and SGOL are gold. GLD is more paper gold. I like GDXY for gold exposure plus yield. The gold royalty companies are great FNV WPM etc.
If you buy gold R&S companies right now (FNV, RGLD, WPM) it's like buying gold at a 40% discount. Good medium term move if you want to buy the gold dip. Position: 10% of my risk capital in leaps on FNV and RGLD, will be averaging down.
Thank goodness I invested in WPM years ago when it was dirt-cheap.
I don't think so. Their partnership tried to bring Nvidia's AI technology to Intel's CPU chip. But some businesses and customers don't need a CPU with that high processing power. I explained in detail in my analysis in this video. [https://youtu.be/9HGyX751WPM](https://youtu.be/9HGyX751WPM)
Precious metals as the dollar continues to devalue. AUMI and WPM.
up 70% YTD on WPM with no DD. Am i winning?
I've been long **GLD** LEAPS since March 5th. Such a beautiful chart for the prior 18 months. Then April and the doldrums. But I held through, steadily selling CCs, so I'm glad for the breakout. I'm also in **GDX, IAU,** and **SAND.** That's all for gold, but for silver I'm in **SILJ**. And for general metals, **XME** and **WPM**. This precious metals run has a while to go in my opinion.
Yes, sir, I hold both AEM and WPM. They have been to low for to long IMO
My best on monkeytype is 100WPM,
Look to the gold and silver royalty companies like FNV WPM MTA OR etc. you get exposure to precious metals and some income in the meantime. PSLV for a liquid silver exposure.
WPM and NVDA. Take a nap and Come back in 5 years
Gold, silver, and real estate are the hedges for a weak dollar. Bitcoin is another form of fiat money. Not backed by any real thing, just by consensus of users. I like the gold royalty companies like $FNV $WPM etc for gold/silver exposure.
Silver and gold bullion in your possession. Gold/silver royalty companies like $ FNV $WPM $MTA etc. $GDX etf for trading. $NAK for speculators
Gold royalty companies like $FNV $WPM $MTA etc.
WPM has been my go to for the "insurance" portion of my portfolio. They're miner contracts and recent acquisitions prove they have a solid model. The divvy isn't too bad either. Miners themselves are subject to far too many shocks, and too many are in unfavorable parts of the world where politics interfere with operations IMO.
I disagree. Read the first sentence of the original post in this thread. He or she was asking about gold mining stocks due to global economic uncertainty. Investing into WPM would give you exposure to gold as an investment. An investment that has beat gold stocks and gold mining stocks as well as the S&P 500.
**WPM** has crushed the S&P 500
you comment has 16 words, so at one second max of thinking or caring about bezos wedding you can formulate your response and type at a minimum of 960 WPM, sheeeeeeeesh! ^/s
$GDX for trading. $CEF for holding long term I like the gold royalty companies for long term hold, you get exposure to gold plus some interest income. Look at $FNV and $WPM for examples
Gold is considered an inflation hedge, when interest rates go higher gold usually goes lower due to the fact that gold does not pay a dividend or interest. It’s also a safe haven investment, so when there is turmoil and uncertainty in the market money moves into gold. I like holding the gold royalty companies like FNV, WPM, etc. you get exposure to gold and they pay dividends, which get higher with higher gold prices. I trade the GDX for quick in and out moves.
Went all gold mining (WPM,NEM,IAG) and cash in January... been holding my own, waiting for the big drop. Lol
Ok, so it’s an industrial metal, that is being consumed faster than it is being produced. Yes, I am quite long silver, and WPM.
Hot take - I’m gambling 5-10% of my portfolio. Young enough to eat the losses, but valuable enough to change retirement age if they hit big buying April 17 calls and puts on some volatile tickers. Earned and lost a decent amount playing deltas last week Some calls on leveraged shorts like SQQQ for May if the premiums fall low enough More calls on gold holdings. WPM and company already gave me +10-15% last week. when I saw yields spike in the 4% I threw a fat stack at them and it printed cash
Why is my fckn $WPM stock green? I mean that’s great but don’t get it. Normally every stock declines in a real crash, even those loosely related to metals.
I read up on that and the type of liability is something that applies to mining. It’s basically a milestone type deal based on mining productivity. Not necessarily a bad thing. DEEPSEEK DD **Streaming Liabilities** in the context of stocks typically refer to financial obligations related to **streaming agreements**—a type of financing arrangement commonly used in the **mining and natural resources sectors**, but sometimes applied in other industries as well. ### **What Are Streaming Agreements?** A streaming agreement is a financing deal where a company (often a mining company) sells a percentage of its future production (e.g., precious metals, oil, or commodities) to an investor (streaming company) in exchange for an upfront payment. ### **How Streaming Liabilities Work in Stocks** 1. **Upfront Payment as a Liability** - The company receives a lump sum from the streaming partner but incurs an obligation to deliver future production at a predetermined price (often below market rates). - This obligation is recorded as a **liability** on the balance sheet. 2. **Ongoing Delivery Obligations** - The company must periodically deliver the agreed-upon commodity, which reduces revenue potential but provides stable cash flow upfront. - Failure to meet delivery terms may trigger penalties or renegotiations. 3. **Impact on Financial Statements** - **Balance Sheet:** The upfront payment may be classified as debt or deferred revenue, increasing liabilities. - **Income Statement:** Future sales are recognized as the commodity is delivered, often at lower margins than spot market sales. ### **Example in Stocks** - **Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM)** is a well-known streaming company that provides upfront cash to miners in exchange for future silver/gold production. - Mining companies like **Barrick Gold (GOLD)** or **First Majestic Silver (AG)** may use streaming deals to fund projects, but their liabilities increase due to future delivery commitments. ### **Key Risks for Investors** - **Lower Future Revenue:** The company sells future production at a discount. - **Liquidity Risk:** If production falls short, the company may struggle to meet obligations. - **Debt-like Characteristics:** Streaming liabilities can affect credit ratings and valuation. ### **Conclusion** Streaming liabilities represent contractual obligations tied to future production sales. While they provide immediate funding, they can weigh on long-term profitability and financial flexibility. Investors should assess these liabilities when analyzing stocks in mining, energy, or similar sectors. “
I don't blame you but there are still winners right now. WPM, RSG, BRO, BJ, AJG, AZO, ORLY, GDX, IAU, OLLI Gold mining and insurance in particular.
Do I hold or sell WPM? Urghh
SMIC has grown like 14% in the last month. They are planning 50K WPM 7nm capacity by the end of 2025. Gyna quietly beefed up a legit TSMC competitor. 
Intel 18A will still exist, so will Samsung's fabs ASML is so far the only irreplaceable chokepoint for semiconductors until China makes their own EUV. semiconductors will become worse and global WPM falls off a cliff, but chips will still be fabbed.
I like the gold/silver royalty companies. Look at FNV, WPM, OR, etc.
Own a smaller amount of AG, I’m underwater on it, could average down, but for some reason, it is not moving with the price of silver. My largest holding is WPM, bought at 22 CAN, presently at 95. Still holding. Smaller position in KUYA, good potential in a smaller company. Own quite a bit of physical. Not all in, but extremely heavy metals. I do think silver is way undervalued.
Long: GOLD: 400 shares at $18.63. Down $276 AEM: 117 shares at $47.42. Up $5,666 WPM: 111 shares at $14.83. Up $5,846 KGC: 541 shares at $6.09. Up $2,802 All those cast calculations include the dividends paid, so my DRIPs have been raising my average price per share over the years. All these comments about mining stocks being at all-time lows - sheesh. Not in my experience.
I was in education too. It’s an absolute shit show and only getting worse in these red states. Thankfully I was able to find a job in a completely different industry making double what I was teaching. But this level of slashing education is unsustainable. We’re going to have such a poorly educated population that these issues are only going to persist, and get even worse. We’re already seeing it in the insurance industry here where I’m at. We just hired a person fresh out of college, and it’s now been found that they can’t type on a computer faster than 24 WPM. We signed them up for a keyboarding class because you have to know how to type quickly in order to succeed here, but I don’t see much improvement at all. These next 10 years are going to be a nightmare.
Without writing an essay I would say it's a way to get into a growing mineral company specialized in things that are always crucial (gold / silver the classics, been going up especially lately + things like cobalt which have practical applications). It's not inexpensive but the outlook is good, overall most of the indicators are positive and despite going up for a while it's still seen as having some upside left. It's also a solid dividend stock. They've also made some good acquisitions that should help solidify their position in the market. Helps that when gold and silver go up, WPM does too. When markets are unstable, gold and silver go up, but in general even in a bull market demand will be high. Obviously nothing is sure, but I'm feeling some volatility for the near future, and with solid fundamentals I don't see it going down soon. In the event of a downturn in one country, I feel that its international operations gives it an advantage, not to mention good fundamentals means perhaps it'll weather the storm. And a sector that will grow regardless because it's both necessary for our technology AND has a bunch of very different applications. So overall I feel it's in a solid position. Some of the upside is likely eaten into, and there are bigger competitors. But I didn't get into it thinking it would grow massively, I was looking for stability, but so far it's shown good signs for both growth AND being more stable than my other investments during downturns. I would suggest you check out AInvest if you want a good overview. Just ask whatever question you have about the company, obviously don't act on it without doing your homework but to have a general idea it's pretty good! And none of this is financial advice 😂
I didn't. Care to share more about WPM?
$WPM silver royalties will rock!
Went big into Gold and Silver Miners today - WPM, AEM - can also look at OR and AGI
My skepticism comes more from how surprisingly poor the major gold companies' fundamentals are compared to the mid-tier and junior miners. I did a fairly extensive inspection of the sector back in September, running their balance sheets through the CPA database I've brought up a few times here. If there's one thing I learned as a buy-side analyst, it's you can't trust the company balance sheet as presented. Not only are the likes of FNV, KGC, GOLD, WPM, NEM, etc. overpriced compared to smaller companies along several valuation metrics, but they're also less efficient in asset usage and have weaker earnings projections (YoY percentage wise) as well. The high premium they demand for margin of safety doesn't seem worthwhile when that's the *only* thing being priced in.
WPM. Very much levered to the price of silver, but with the amount used in solar panels and most electronics and a structural deficit I can see this stock being one that we look back on in a decade and wonder why we didn't get in on it. The metals streaming business model is genius.
WPM is in my watch list. Thank you for sharing... Just unsure if it's too late to get in lol.
Finally, somebody else that invested in WPM
I have Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM). But the EPS looks so high to me. I don't understand how gold royalty stocks are valued. Its different.
Maybe consider Wheaton Precious Metals. Ticker WPM. Its gold streaming and royalty stock. They let gold mining companies do all the heavy lifting, but still get paid. Same geopolitical risk issue though.
It’s a good idea to have a few silver and gold coins for insurance and as heirlooms. It’s good to have a little inflation protection in your portfolio. I like the gold and silver royalty companies in my portfolio. They give me exposure to another asset class and pay dividends. Look at WPM FNV OR etc.