ATL

This-Seaworthiness-1

AI tells me this is the exact dates (based on the data it could find, which is caveated by it might be slightly different on different exchanges) ATL 2015 → ATH 2017 Jan 14, 2015 - Dec 17, 2017 1,070 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018 Dec 17, 2017 - Dec 15, 2018 363 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021 Dec 15, 2018 - Nov 10, 2021 1,069 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022 Nov 10, 2021 - Nov 21, 2022 376 days ATL 2022 → ATH 2025 Nov 21, 2022 - Oct 6, 2025 1,324 days Be interested to know where others get the stats that say it matches up to the day from?

thats_classick

ATL 2015 → ATH 2017: 1,064 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018: 364 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021: 1,064 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022: 364 days ATL Nov 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025: 1,064 days

FireBest59

Every single cycles there was something different that made people think it would be different, and yet it never was. So why would you disregard the cycle just because of etfs? The difference etfs made this cycle was an ATH and a higher ATL because more people will hold, that’s all. And like every other cycles, the top happened exactly on time as expected. You’re betting against something that has never been broken once, good luck

FireBest59

Every single cycles there was something different that made people think it would be different, and yet it never was. So why would you disregard the cycle just because of etfs? The difference etfs made this cycle was an ATH and a higher ATL because more people will hold, that’s all.

MrCalabunga

I don't like seeing people lose money, so I do hope you're right. However, this waiting for the clarity act thing sounds like a rerun of the last season where they were waiting for AMP to no longer be considered a security. A lot of time has passed since then, with us now in a post-Gary Gensler economy, and AMP is, as we speak, teasing its ATL. I do see it's having a little rally today, but whatever you do: don't zoom out.

DistributionOwn8708

reposters can go sell their coins at ATL and buy at ATH

Lower_Fall4694

2025's ATL was 74k and point.

inDilema

Russell 2000 is near ATH while Alts are near ATL. It's not even a "stress in the market" issue. There's enough money in the market, it's just none of it is flowing to the alts because there is no narrative.

PokeTaskForceYT

They’re saying the current 4 year cycle that hasn’t failed, failed. They’re basically ignorant to what a cycle is. The cycle could top at 150k in 3 months and make the next ATL for the cycle in or around October 2026 and that would still be a “4 year cycle. Why? Because from trough to trough it took roughly 4 years to complete. Calling the 4 year cycle dead is what gets views atm. Left or right translated cycle can be 4 years if that’s how long the cycle took.. it’s not magic. Many NPCs who just got into bitcoin in 2020 are calling 4 year cycle dead because they have no idea what a cycle is and they’re fishing clicks.

RiceMofo

50k is not impossible. If the cycle repeats then ATL late 2026

Niket___

Polkadot under $2 Wow, ATL.

unlikely-ape

Wonder if institutional money invalidated the 1000 days ATL ATH cycles

markprice211

All it’s going to take is the newly involved large financial institutions anticipating the now self-fulfilling prophecy halving cycle to completely shatter retail expectation and hit us when we’re least expecting it. Everyone starts dumping their bags expecting a mid-2026 ATL based on past history, only for BlackRock to come along and pump $300B into it the ETF in Q1 2026. Retailers panic realizing the cycle has changed so they FOMO in, driving the price even higher for the financial giants.

angelwolf71885

The real tell would be ATH to ATL the drop from the peak to the base will be the most telling

Theface556

I came across a discussion about this the other day and thought it would be a fun little Excel project. After pulling together some theoretical cycle dates and comparing them with the actual all-time lows and all-time highs, the pattern ended up being surprisingly close with a rough delta of less than seven days. Now, to be clear, I’m not a financial advisor and I’m definitely not an expert. This is just me messing around with numbers for fun. But if the trend holds and the curve continues to de-escalate the way it has over previous cycles, my rough estimates would put an ATL around $34,023.94 on October 5th, 2026, and an ATH around $413,472.49 on September 3rd, 2029. Based on the way the theoretical dates have drifted in the past, the next ATH could realistically fall somewhere between September 1st and September 7th 2029. There isn’t nearly enough historical data to treat this as any kind of real predictive method, but the pattern is interesting. For context, previous cycle lows have been about 27.3 percent of the prior cycle’s ATH, and new cycle highs have peaked around 327.6 percent of the previous ATH. That relationship has held up reasonably well going back to the earliest records I could find from 2008. Again, none of this is financial advice just a fun numerical pattern that caught my attention.

soyuz-1

This. People need to zoom out and see the bigger picture. Acting like it's doing ATL's whenever it dips.

MusaRilban

So you ignored absolutely everything I mentioned and just focused on price... Does that mean we're not allowed to talk about any coins at all that are away from their ATHs? It's not on a ATL like many other cryptos. Didn't get dumped on 10/10 due to not being centralised on exchanges, and provides a private avenue to sound money. You can talk price all you like but you can't dispute anything I'm saying.

CryptoWWFC

So next ATL October 2026 then the following ATH September 2029?!

Correct_Programmer23

By that logic ATH 2025 → ATL 2026 = 364 dias 6/10/2025 + 364 dias = 4 de outubro de 2026 (ATL). · ATL 2026 → ATH 2029 = 1064 dias 4/10/2026 + 1064 dias = 21 de setembro de 2029 (ATH). · ATH 2029 → ATL 2030 = 364 dias 21/9/2029 + 364 dias = 20 de setembro de 2030 (ATL). · ATL 2030 → ATH 2033 = 1064 dias 20/9/2030 + 1064 dias = 6 de setembro de 2033 (ATH). · ATH 2033 → ATL 2034 = 364 dias 6/9/2033 + 364 dias = 5 de setembro de 2034 (ATL). · ATL 2034 → ATH 2037 = 1064 dias 5/9/2034 + 1064 dias = 21 de agosto de 2037 (ATH). · ATH 2037 → ATL 2038 = 364 dias 21/8/2037 + 364 dias = 20 de agosto de 2038 (ATL). · ATL 2038 → ATH 2041 = 1064 dias 20/8/2038 + 1064 dias = 5 de agosto de 2041 (ATH). · ATH 2041 → ATL 2042 = 364 dias 5/8/2041 + 364 dias = 4 de agosto de 2042 (ATL). · ATL 2042 → ATH 2045 = 1064 dias 4/8/2042 + 1064 dias = 20 de julho de 2045 (ATH). · ATH 2045 → ATL 2046 = 364 dias 20/7/2045 + 364 dias = 19 de julho de 2046 (ATL). · ATL 2046 → ATH 2049 = 1064 dias 19/7/2046 + 1064 dias = 3 de julho de 2049 (ATH). · ATH 2049 → ATL 2050 = 364 dias 3/7/2049 + 364 dias = 2 de julho de 2050 (ATL). That just won't happen

Aerocryptic

Bitconnect is at ATL too if you’re looking for train wrecks

anon83818

No, it’s not real. If it was, then November 7, 2022 should have been the 2022 ATL. But FTX imploded *after* November 7, 2022, and BTC’s price fell from around ~$20k to $15.5k, which is a 25% downturn. A trading using this pattern with 2x leverage would lose 50% of their capital. A trader using this pattern with 4× leverage in 2022 would have been liquidated. The fact that the models breaks massively during a real-world stress event is the strongest possible evidence that it’s not reliable and is useless for forecasting. Timing the market is a fool’s errand. Relying on historical patterns, numerology, or dubious limited-cycle theories like this 4chan post (especially for a young asset like BTC) ignores the reality that markets are driven by unpredictable real-world, exogenous events.

DisorientedPanda

It relates to halving too - I had October marked too from ATL to ATH and halving to ATH, both hit around the same time

user_name_checks_out

This screenshot is stupid. Bitcoin's ATL is zero. And, as others here have already pointed out, millions of people make millions of predictions every day, the fact that one prediction was almost right about one thing means nothing. Also, this has already been posted many times, e.g. [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ny9d3k/posted_in_2023/) and [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1o09zrk/bitcoins_bearish_cycle_began_yesterday_what_do/).

h311s

ATL: All time low (lowest price)

oneinfinity123

I mean during the last cycle it hit 15k, why would it not go down to even 30k? Everything is possible. If it goes below the previous ATL, then that's a problem.

Mr_BR_engineer

1. ATH 2017 → ATL 2018 is NOT 364 days • ATH: Dec 17, 2017 • ATL: Dec 15, 2018 = 363 days → close, but chosen to fit a pattern, not an actual rule. 2. ATL 2018 → ATH 2021 is NOT exactly 1064 days • ATL: Dec 15, 2018 • ATH: Nov 10, 2021 = 1061 days → again close, but still cherry-picked. 3. ATH 2021 → ATL 2022 ≠ exactly 364 days • ATH: Nov 10, 2021 • ATL: Nov 21, 2022 = 376 days Nothing lines up perfectly.

Mr_BR_engineer

Very close. So GPT just told me. Last time ATH was at 7/10/2025 just 1050 days since last ATL. Next ATL will be around 06/10/2026 Note this date. We are now on Bear market

Emergency_Egg1281

2 Words THE DEMOCRATS !!!market should have pumped after job report being positive. For all the crap everyone gives Trump about the crypto space and how he is manipulating it etc....thats straight B.S.. There are more whales than trump with more influence and a bunch are Dems who are trying so hard to make him look bad THEY are keeping you from making money because only they can make money off us and they made it clear when they slipped during the DOGE housecleaning by actually saying " you keep your hands off OUR money , Trump.!" It's OUR F ---king money NOT theirs. Almost every analyst thought the crypto space would pop after positive job report number...but it shit the bed again. It's still going to bump but I think the government cracking down and seizing BTC used for criminal intent has put a speed bump on things. I personally am loading up on CORE that is a bargain under .24 per token. Everyone thinks only BTC will survive but Corechain will be here as long as BTC. go to the website Core is a perk for bitcoin miners as you can mine 4 tokens a years now which is fine IF BTC stays above 120k. If its stays low it gets to the point its to much cost in computer power to mine with not much profit. So CORE is given to miners to fill this gap. Research CORECHAIN and its tie to BTC. To me , seems like a NO Brainer. It was .13 this morning an ATL !! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, HANG IN ITS GOING TO GET BETTER THE CYCLE HAS CHANGED.

Ok-Mango5075

What's an ATL?

PsychologicalBit803

Then going by this if it is accurate a new low would come next year around Oct? That’s not an ATL but a cycle low right? I think we could see a bigger dip but I’m not so sure we ever see 15-20k again. Lot of institutional money would be in trouble if it got to 20k.

Complex-Ambition-989

According to this, the next ATL will be 6th October 2026.

calevonlear

Someone predicted it back in December 2023 to the day. 1064 days from ATL to ATH then 364 days from ATH to ATL.

No_Broccoli_4427

the simulation will choose $67,067 ATL OCT 5th 2026!

Efficient_Culture569

Are the Cycle low ATL, or just a low date to make it seem similar?

arianjalali

if the 4-year cycle is intact and the ATH barely ticked into low-end conservative estimates, one could theorize (perhaps ***Copiumously*** *so*) that the retrace to ATL won't be as harsh as forecasted either. volatility getting smoothed out over time was inevitable for adoption, right? this is the impression i got from listening to Saifedean's materials circa 2020-2022 at least. of course we all want NGU; but what's happening is a feature, not a bug.

Determined_to_heal

ATL Jan 14, 2015 → ATH Dec 17, 2017 = 1,068 days ATH Dec 17, 2017 → ATL Dec 15, 2018 = 363 days ATL Dec 15, 2018 → ATH Nov 10, 2021 = 1,061 days ATH Nov 10, 2021 → ATL Nov 21, 2022 = 376 days ATL Nov 21, 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025 = 1,050 days Looks pretty spot on to me...

kingsheperd

I love how MSTR is the ”tsar bomba” but came out fine when BTC bottomed to 16k last time, fuck, they were fine before that too. If ETH or btc even comes close to the last ATL I’m selling everything I own istg

CaptainAGame

“According to this YouTuber” Society is at an ATL

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r2cyp

new ATL by Friday

Adept-Ad-738

Better for people in this subreddit to make posts about how much BTC they own, not about the price of BTC. Because the fiat price of BTC is not going to matter long term. The fiat price of BTC only matters today because it impacts everyone’s ability to buy BTC. The long term outlook is that goods / services are going to be priced according to BTC - and when that happens, you’re only going to be checking how much BTC you have, not its price when compared to fiat. It’s better for people to celebrate how much BTC they own - regardless of whether the fiat price is at ATH or ATL

YellowBirdo16

Based on the 2 ATL and ATH, I think 60 is the lowest we can get.

bubleloo

Haha no I'm not invested in link. I get your point, thx. Just sharing from my point of view. But just to clarify, link ATL is 0.35 in 2019, and ath 53 at 2021. And that's so much gain. If we look from ATH to now, then yes it's down just like entire market

twitch-switch

Maybe that ATH to ATL prediction was right? Guess I'll just keep buying

r2cyp

Less than 0.5% away from reaching ATL since June 2025🥀

user_name_checks_out

Can you read? On day one, bitcoin established its ATL of zero. Bitcoin's ATL will always be zero.

user_name_checks_out

It didn't. Bitcoin's ATL is zero. The post was dumb on the day it was posted and it's still dumb now.

zqipz

Still ATL

JetHeavy

exchange supply hit ATL with 50% staked long term. all unlocks complete no more sell pressure. broke downtrend at $4 and defended monthly support twice social posts at 3 month high. ranked #1 in DePIN discussion volume holder count over 1.6m now http://caffeine.ai $ICP #ICP

silkred

Some coins are hitting new ATL's which I have to say I've never seen in a cycle before (unless they're being de-listed, which these aren't). I'm not saying abandon all hope, just that the market is changing and we need to watch and react carefully. Also kee an eye on which coins \*aren't\* falling, especially the ones with high volume and market cap. Good to know which coins can withstand these things for next time i.e. not the 98% of coins that boringly follow wall street and bitcoin.

jasperCrow

Was a clean 10x from ATL to ATH 🤷‍♂️

angiebbbbb

I brought the ATH in "uptober" with my personal funds and i.plan on buying the ATL in November with my super funds (401k equivalent).

NamelessVoyage

Crypto is a fad. Just like the Fidget spinner. It's fizzled out. Multiple upon multiple coins hit their ATL this cycle

Rory_1354

They're putting in all time lows because they're complete shitcoins. ETH, Solana and Xrp are way off ATL. I said pick any coin outside the top 10, pepe has outperformed DOT this cycle. You are down if you bought DOT at any time during its lifespan. It's over man accept it.

Despaciito

Prices near ATH, sentiment at ATL, 21 billion in shorts. Hmmm

noviwu97

Looking at the chart, it's practically at ATL (all time low) now. Must be in very deep red.

Confident_Skill4537

So do we really know if now we're at an ATL? I'm afraid it happens a similar crash to the one in 2021

YankeeDoodlePeguin

ATL season

Street_Outside_7228

Returns are better from ATL tho

Admirable-Carry-6367

True, Oct 6 was the local top when that post went viral, but the real top — if you’re following the 1,064-day pattern from the Nov 21, 2022 ATL — isn’t supposed to hit until Oct 20. So if the cycle holds, we might not have seen the actual ATH yet.

pinkypowerchords

So, another ATL in a year?

crunchyeyeball

Well, according to Google the ATL of 2022 was on November 21st 2022. 1064 days later would be October 20th 2025. I look forward to Monday's new ATH, but I admit to having some doubts over this prediction.

69dumbredditname

Wouldn't you want to wait 347 more days until it hits ATL 2026?

Argyrus777

I think had ATL just run the ball every possession will be enough to drain the clock

jwz9904

morale seems to be ATL but btc is still above 100k

Imaginary-Finger2898

Smells like what 69k push looked like in 2021, similarly we actually made it to new ATH this time. Wouldn't be a bummer if 50k wad new ATL

zqipz

Not when alts are at ATL. They at least pump first before pull-backs.

AnoAnoSaPwet

New ATL for some alts. Polkadot ate shit hard, lowest I ever seen. 

SleepingDih

I recently learned about the 4 year cycle so I didn’t want to buy during the ATH just so my investments could be less than what it could’ve been after when price dropped to the ATL. Plus I didn’t have any money to buy at ATH

zqipz

Now ***alll*** alts are at ATL

Unusual_Bug_1636

Now ATL

na3than

According to this the original author doesn't know what "ATL" means.

user_name_checks_out

On the day bitcoin was invented it hit its ATL of zero.

AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us

ATL would be $0.00 ....

AwareGanache6190

According to this, ATL 2026 is 1 year from now, Oct 26’. Sounds about right, people calling for a correction second half of 2026

user_name_checks_out

The ATL is zero. Dumb post. Also, this same stupid screenshot was already posted [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1o09zrk/bitcoins_bearish_cycle_began_yesterday_what_do/) and [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ny9d3k/posted_in_2023/).

Traditional_Tip_2534

According to this then ATL should be around end of Sep 26.

MarcDarcy

I’m interested in ATL again… what does the crystal ball say?

brandonholm

ATL can keep going lower and it usually does with alts. On a long enough time scale of 5-10 years, 10-20x with bitcoin isn’t unreasonable, but most of the vast majority of the alts you see today will either be dead or even lower than they are now.

user_name_checks_out

The ATL is zero. Dumb post.

SixtAcari

Bitcoin is considered too expensive, giving at most expected x2 return on actual investment. In case of big fuck up it may devalue to 90k rapidly. While some of alts are already on ATL, there's not much space to fall further. Alts condidered undervalued and estimated x3-x5 in growth, some new alts x10 even. That's why people expect alt rally to have just greater returns then from BTC. Yes it may never happen. Many other things may not happen.

Any_Maintenance_6015

Another post showed the exact same daily distance between ATH and ATL..... This asset has a high standard deviation. Highs of less than 1% above previous ATH are actually likely a sign that is breaking down. Wake me when BTC hits 175k otherwise 120k is the same as 130k is the same as 100k.

cryptoninja_

If BTC hits $150K EoY The new ATL could be around $100k

stars-n-stuff

ATL in 2022 = Nov. 21, 2022 + 1064d = Oct 20, 2025

bigboybandit

So when is the next ATL supposed to be?

4DS3

ATL = All Time Low? Was 2018 low lower than 2022 low?

SixtAcari

Which currencies lmao, dollar which is already at ATL?

American_Bitcoin_

Same. 30 minutes out of ATL

Uhnahn

So, apparently its 14% not 20, sorry. Also, its near its ATL so its not a huge risk, its been bobbing around 0.18 for a while now. Sorry my meme coin isn't some animal based bullshit, I guess... 🙄

jubbing

It's barely a drop though? It's not even an ATL in the last 2 months..

MaximumStudent1839

> I can understand why many projects might be open to taking any route necessary to get the general cryptocurrency attention to their project. Currently, crypto funds are hyper-focused on the "revenue meta." Now, let me clarify, making revenue makes absolute sense for any business. But the problem is, the proven verticals to get consistent revenue in crypto generally fall into either gambling on short-term shitcoins or farming volatility off the majors. As VCs like to trumpet how "Hyperliquid" or "Pumpfun" are "crypto breakout apps" of this cycle. But these products require a constant influx of "new victims" to grease the "revenue meta" machines, because they are absolutely zero-sum games. Consequently, they spread rumors about airdrops and other schemes to lure in victims and encourage them to gamble away their funds in the hope of profiting from airdrops. It is now an open, dirty secret. Pumpfun volume dropped to ATL and then surged back up due to new rumors of an airdrop, based on new volume after TGE. Many funds are also doing delta neutral on Hyperliquid for airdrop farming. Didn't Joe McCann's Alpha Liquid fund crash out because they claimed they fucked up on farming Hyperliquid? Now you see plenty of other projects pivoting to airdrops and launchpads to farm these similar "revenue meta" rails. Honestly, this space is beyond fucked. It is either you set up traps to lure in your customers and harvest their organs to generate revenue, or you don't get attraction for new projects...

AdhesivenessWeird197

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Impossible_Nature849

Um. It's not gonna make an ATL again...

quatresaisons

IA don't know it will ATL this year. /s...

mohicanin

Another moron that sees the light when it maksa new ATH, not ATL....

Comfortable_Dropping

We need a time stamp on that ATL. My friend can not forgive the bank for declining his $100 purchase in 2010. He’s been wrecked since. This will cheer him up I’m sure.

ignominiousDog

Well Dollar ATL was .000008032. Hence my use of the word “near” If you want to nickel and dime me over .000003 cents have fun.

adequate_redditor

You mean, fiat is at an ATL? 🤣

anonuemus

he thinks bitcoin will reach an ATL, lmao what an idiot

byylu

I bought near ATL, I market bought near ATH. Finding $pep so early is the best move I’ve made in over 10 years in crypto. I ignored Doge in early days, also a few other projects too. This time I’m not making that mistake again. Just waiting calmly and patiently to see what the future brings us