ATL

JLC587

Yeah you’re paper hands af bro. Bitcoin is not something you sell for profit because you want to go invest in stocks. It always moves in cycles. You should be stacking more not selling at its current ATL. You’re literally panic selling the bottom. The one thing they tell you NOT to do with investing. All I can say is it is going to go lower. Probably a good bit. But you should absolutely keep some liquidity to buy it when it’s cheep. The next swing up is going to be wild.

no_choice99

Algorand went from 3 usd per coin down to 0.08 where it's currently sitting at. The excuse is ''the whole market is down''. Yeah, sure, when BTC was hitting an ATH Algorand was hitting a near ATL.

absentbrain

I think that it will drop ~66% BTC dropped 87% after the first halving, 84% (3% less) after the 2nd, 77% (7% less) after the third. Put this into an equation: 3x(H-1)+(H-2). H = Times halved. ~3x3+2=11% less of a drop for the 4th halving. 77-11 = 66% ATH was $126,198. 126,198x(1-.66)=$42,907.32 So i think that the ATL of this cycle will be $42,907.32

Responsible_Cod_1453

Biggest reason why I don't do ATL coins or shitcoins anymore, you will marry your bag in 70% cases.

SatoshiTrails

Because nobody actually knows where the ATH or ATL is until after it's already happened. the people who "sold near the top" in 2021 at $60k watched it go to $69k. the people waiting for ATL in 2022 had their target at $15k and watched it bottom at $16k before recovering. you're never buying the bottom or selling the top you're just guessing and occasionally getting lucky. DCA isn't exciting but it removes the part of the equation that kills most retail investors: their own timing decisions.

na3than

> ATH and ATL is kinda easy to predict. That's fantastic! So tell us: when's the next low?

Long-Boysenberry-782

Theres million charts showing the 4 year cicle and ATH and ATL is kinda easy to predict. (Not exactly but..)

Far_Tiger_2862

The whole BTC cycle is like 3 steps forward 2 steps backward, in order to test new ATH/ATL. Average people get caught up in the noise and forget how the cycles work. Don’t be average people.

crunchyeyeball

How can you have multiple "all time" *lows* (ATL)? I see these same figures posted over & over again, but has anyone ever taken the time to *check* them? This being being a bitcoin sub, I say "***don't trust, verify***". E.g., Just looking at the most recent high & low, and a little googling: > The *lowest price of Bitcoin in 2022* was $15,760.19, which was recorded on ***November 21st, 2022***. This sharp decline followed a volatile year for the cryptocurrency market and the collapse of the FTX exchange. > Bitcoin reached its *highest price* on ***October 6, 2025*** when it hit an all-time high of $126,198.07 There are exactly **1,050 days** between November 21, 2022 and October 6, 2025.

Extension_Ladder_135

I don't care about the halving. I look at dates.  ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days. ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days

trimalcus

If history repeats itself october seems to be ATL. But it would be dumb I think no starting to buy right now and buy each month until end of year

Ar0war

We are living in a simulation: ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days ATH 2025 to ATL 2026= ... probably 5 October 2026 Not 100% certain but it is what worked for me till now

albedoa

I don't think that's right. DCA'ing to an ATL is bad. DCA ignores fluctuations, not destinations.

SirDaddio

BTC don't care whose president, it continues to run its cycle like clockwork. Watch for the ATL coming in October

Full-Variety3099

I put a limit order in for $100 see you in 2028 for the next ATL lol

oopssomething

Went 30% in TRUMP, it's ATL so nice entry point

Ar0war

We are living in a simulation: ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days ATH 2025 to ATL 2026= ... probably 5 October 2026 Not 100% certain but it is what worked for me till now

FireBest59

Cycles are defined by when the price is at its lowest and it’s highest. Not only does picking 2 data points (ATL and ATH) more precise, it’s also more insightful because it encapsulates exactly the beginning and end movements of a cycle. Even if you only take ATHs it still shows huge diminishing returns, but it’s just less precise and harder to predict the next cycle’s diminished top and bottom and can be confusing

Lord_Gudda

I remember the ADA and CRO partnership announcements and they are nearing ATL...just saying

kironet996

ATL is actually $1.2

Empty-Operation569

I just dumped the last of mine last week. IDK what's worst, that I had it for so long, or that I sold at ATL haha I'm new, still learning.

Ok_Golf_6467

Sentiment is ATL. Hard for many to accumulate at these levels because they dont have any more money to do so. So they downvote those who can

No_Reality_6047

BTC back to monthly ATL, still not down a lot?

Medium_Change4574

10% up from ATL, nice

FireBest59

Cycle was not broken, diminishing returns and lower volatility has always been part of the cycle, its impossible for the price to go x100 or 1000x like it has been before because there isn’t enough money for this. In 2021 it was possible to approximate the ATH price and the date just from looking at the pattern. And from 15k to 125k it still did \~800% (people often calculate the it wrongly and only look at the bull year which constantly shifts because the cycle shifts) Also, the cycle being broken because it reached ATH before the halving is wrong. The cycle isn’t based on the price at the time of halving, it’s based on a pattern in the amount of days between the ATL and the ATH. If you look at the cycle repeat chart, you’ll see that the up and down patterns lines up with last cycle’s almost perfectly in the same time frame. Also, the ATH arrived barely a few days/weeks before the halving, which is really not that far off anyways. This can be attributed to the sudden inflow of money from the ETFS etc, but it still happened close enough to the expected time. I don’t get why anyone is dismissing the cycle because of something so unrelated when everything else is still a copy paste of last cycle’s right on time

Crappyhodler

The only ATL is the first period in 2009. Should change to CL and CH. There's no guarantee that in the future the Cycle High will also be the All Time High

user_name_checks_out

On the day that bitcoin went live, it established its ATL of zero.

mlhender

Does ATL mean Cycle low?

paco_1987

Never sell in ATL. Big mistake

user_name_checks_out

Those are cycle lows. On the day that bitcoin went live, it established its ATL of zero.

UKcoin2

Not new ATL each cycle :D

thats_classick

All Time Low 2015 → All Time High 2017: 1,064 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018: 364 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021: 1,064 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022: 364 days ATL Nov 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025: 1,064 days ATL ~Oct 2026 The chart doesn’t lie but hey, this is just Reddit being Reddit as usual.

This_Discussion126

The longer you've been in Bitcoin the more you should realize Bitcoin is becoming less volatile. ATH's getting lower, ATL getting higher, less pumps, less dumps, I'd say the 50% dump we got was pretty huge in current times and expecting another 50% dump at 60k is extremely unlikely, although I agree having been in Bitcoin for a long time "nothing is impossible".

naeads

I am waiting for that "WTF IS HAPPENING?!" post at some point this year when bitcoin reaches another ATL.

Pristine_Kangaroo527

I don’t know if you know this but BTC’s ATL is pretty much zero. “Cycle bottom” is not ATL lol

Spazero

If there is a pattern it loosely follows the 1000 day 365 day cycle for ATH and ATL. It's not perfect but it is oddly close. If accurate we're due for an ATL around October. If not, one of a few things have happened. Either way from what Ive seen, it's not an exact science anyways. The amount of factors and the different ways they influence eachother matter. When it comes to the market, people are the biggest factor, and they aren't always predictable.

Ancient-Bat1755

Its good tech though, checks a lot of boxes. Quantum security, general sec, green carbon neutral footprint, thousands of nodes (2025) over 10k txs , 20-40k goals, .003 fee which is less than $.01, 2-4s smart contracts , easy to use perawallet, on cmc and mxc with usdc partnerships, easier development with python. All of this is while at ATL mostly, they missed a lot of hype wagons by poor marketing budgets at bad times. Its a good chain, just not a lot of hype, and the typical asa crappy coins like erc20.

This_Discussion126

We've been sitting at 0.50x trend already for a while, it has never gone below 0.43x trend in like 15 years. ATH was only 1.8x this cycle, so ATL of about 0.5x is realistic.

JerseyJimmyAsheville

I’ve only studied Bitcoin for 2 years, but have come to mostly the same conclusion, however, I have found a correlation that most have not yet, mostly as it pertains to the ATH and the ATL in each cycle. Each halving event actually brings the ATH and the ATL closer and closer together for each halving event, but until that time, I trade the cycle.

kruthikv9

You mean ATL?

Filthyquak

Why is reddit acting like this is some crazy thing? Draw a line from this years ATL on February 6 which touches the lows of February 24 and February 28 and you realize this is still just a correction in an uptrend. Price is already going up again and the previous HL didn't break.

Keats852

38k ATL

thats_classick

ATL 2015 → ATH 2017: 1,064 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018: 364 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021: 1,064 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022: 364 days ATL Nov 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025: 1,064 days ATL ~Oct 2026

OkGold4062

Oh my bad, I thought it said 2025. I really believe ATL will be at that price.

OkGold4062

You got ATL wrong for OCT 2026.

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GPThought

38% at ATL but btc still holding above 80k. tells you everything about which projects actually matter

Cryptomuscom

If you can survive 38% of alts at ATL, you can survive anything in this market.

Spazero

That's the history. The ATH ATL pattern isnt perfect, but eerily close.

CipherScarlatti

Maybe we'll reach ATL instead.

KnownView5780

The problem is that you're comparing the Oct 2025 ATH with its last ATH from Nov 2021. It's always considered from the the ATL (all time low) which was in Nov 2022, the Bitcoin price reached nearly $15,000 USD. Therefore, from $15,000 to $126,000 is indeed 740% increase or 7x.

KateR_H0l1day

It’s an important metric, and understanding the market overview is important for when you want to buy and sell. Everything between those two points that you decide on is just white noise, so be careful! Plus, remember it doesn’t help with choosing what to buy or sell, and it’s not a lagging or leading indicator. It’s a helpful indicator of the hear and now, the WHEN you buy and sell, and WHAT you buy & sell is entirely up to you, and you alone. The ATH metric is pretty useless on its own, it’s a lagging indicator, which provides historical facts, it’s not a valuable metric indicator of the future. However, ATL metric, while also being a lagging metric indicator, is much more valuable. Why, I hear you ask; because it can help you understand and define when to actually buy! Buying is the critical point of your investment journey, regardless of whether you go up or down. It’s your anchor point, it provides a baseline price for the future and helps you define what your average price will be when you decide to sell. The ATH, can help you when you’re trying to decide when to sell. But obviously, ALT comes first, so it’s crucial to understand and try to get the lowest price possible. F&G index, coupled with the ATL can help you in the decision of when to buy, but it does little to nothing in terms of what to buy, that’s another trick where metrics help you. Just some musings from a random internet stranger 🤷‍♀️

0xmarc

remember the cycle posted in 2023 was only couple days off from predicting 6th Oct 25 ATL 2015 to ATH 2017 = 1064d ATH 2017 to ATL 2018 = 364d ATL 2018 to ATH 2021 = 1064d ATH 2021 to ATL 2022 = 364d ATL November 21, 2022 to ATH October 6, 2025 = 1064d ATH October 6, 2025 to ATL October 5, 2026 = 364d ATL October 5, 2026 to ATH September 3, 2029 = 1064d

InformationTypical32

Either way, it's better than not investing at all , you are doing a great job buying at a low price in fact many individuals still may say that it's not the ATL but no one knows where will be the lowest point. Hope you get good profits 📈

No_Broccoli_4427

cycle ATL

bryanchicken

ATL would be zero

No_Broccoli_4427

hell yea cant wait for this ATL in oct 2026

QuitYuckingMyYum

Dec 31st goes ATH January 1st goes ATL GET WRECKED!

Feisty-Firefighter99

This guy is getting hammered for no reason. We should explain it than just negative score. Btc has a definite halving at a predetermined date. It sends a signal to the market that there are less reward per btc mined after that date. In the past 3 cycles we’ve seen that months leading to the halving then months subsequent it goes from ATL to ATH. Now is the winter season for that cycle. So it’s going to a low point. No one can predict how long and the more people predict we’re close enough to the bottom. The more shallow the ATL is.

Spazero

Probably will go lower until October ish. That's been the pattern. No garuntees of course, but it is the trend so far. Alternating between ATH and ATL

b1mm3rl1f3

$30-40k by Q4 if BTC doesn't recover soon imo. Crypto sentiment is at an ATL, good news doesn't move it, what's left? bear market

Quirky-Reveal-1669

The ATL is 0.

Medical-Flamingo-357

what do you think the new ATL will be in USD

No_Broccoli_4427

WOOO another cycle believer , funny this sub is FULL of deniers , prolly shills cuz wtf is this sub anyways , full of anti cycle and anti btc lol ATL OCT 2026 COMING UP

No_Broccoli_4427

boi u right here arguing with me , ur acting like a btc guru and when asked if u even know the hypotheical ATL this cycle u said “no one knows “ and other just nonsensical shit like ur some kind of master trader 😂 all this time arguing when u could just post ur entry point in less time. people love that shit , then i might take any words u say serious

No_Broccoli_4427

OCT 6 2026 will be the ATL this cycle ! But weird that u dont know that since ur an OG , this isnt my imagination bud , this is the cycle theory date , the last one hit perfect on OCT 6 2025 as expected since 2022!

Ar0war

I understand what you mean but for us who have been around for +2 bear markets is very difficult to expect a different outcome. The past repeated itself exactly, like clockwork: ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days ATH 2025 to ATL 2026= ... probably 5 October 2026 I don't try to say this is going to happend again..., but as I said before it is very difficult to expect this time is different when for now it happen3d exactly the same as before, 1064 days to get to all time high and the 364 days pull back to get to the lowest poin of the bear market. Again, and again.

No_Broccoli_4427

u would know if u were an OG , im so confident i converted all my btc 💪 just waiting for the cycle ATL like a real OG with balls of steel

Dry-Case4122

According to the playbook: Next ATL: 5 Oct 2026 Next ATH: 3 September 2029

introvertedbrat

ATL 2015 to ATH 2017 = 1064d ATH 2017 to ATL 2018 = 364d ATL 2018 to ATH 2021 = 1064d ATH 2021 to ATL 2022 = 364d The pattern would print this cycle's ATH on the 6th of October 2025. -> Possible all time low on 5th October 2026

RicoGonzalz

My sweet child. That’s the point of the post. It’s currently going up. It will not continue to go up. We’re in a bear cycle till like October. Haven’t even reached ATL

FireBest59

Yes I did, right on time and I’m even shorting it. This isn’t my first cycle and I’ve been able to know the next ATH price to expect based on the diminishing returns, the ATH and the ATL also always happened around the same moments. People will say this is chart bs but if they actually looked into it they would see it’s never been wrong once, that’s their loss.

Leintk

You're the goat 🤣 So what's your prediction of ATL, when, and how much?

Leintk

Nope ATL is 30-40k. The simulation is real. ATL 2015 to ATH 2017 = 1064d ATH 2017 to ATL 2018 = 364d ATL 2018 to ATH 2021 = 1064d ATH 2021 to ATL 2022 = 364d ATL is Oct 2026.

JarrodH991

Lmao so many alt coins at ATL

winston_obrien

ATL? You sure?

Idlisamosadosa

Towaes end of September to start of October - BTC will touch ATL and starts bulls cycle back.

goldenbuyer02

?? By this logic we should hit at least $300k ATH first. Last cycle btc did 20x for ATL.

LTP-N

My version is, bought XTZ in 2021, watched £30k fo to £55k, and literally every day since it's just went down and down and down, to a new ATL, it was hovering below its ATL and I was nervous it was just goign to crash, so moved it to ZEC which seemd to have stablised 50% below it's pump to 700, and a few days afte the ZEC team left, and the coin dropped another 15%+ instantly. I'm now stuck with 12.8 ZEC worth about £3-4k

anymonero

Nah, Optimism is a shitcoin. Just set a new ATL.

DankShibe

Won’t happen this time . Alts are already are ATL levels like they were in 2022. This is the bottom .

Ar0war

We are living in a simulation: ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days ATH 2025 to ATL 2026= ... probably 5 October 2026 Not 100% certain but it is what worked for me till now

goldenbuyer02

No, its based on roughly 2.5 cycles and during a period where btc wasnt adopted by institutions. Pure coincidence. We might be lower in October or higher, but the chances of ATL there are equal to other months.

Silverfoxx30

2015–2018 ATL to ATH ~1,070 days ATH to ATL ~365 days 2018–2022 ATL to ATH ~1,065 days ATH to ATL ~370 days 2022-2026 ATL to ATH ~ 1,050 days ATH to ATL ~ ? Somewhere around 365 days. ? Close enough of a structure for me to follow at present. Definitely will get cheaper for a while in my eyes.

ElectroStaticSpeaker

I’ve seen multiple posts that have show the ATH to ATL of the last few cycles has been 364 days since the ATH was in October that tracks the ATL to be next October.

mildmr

08. August 2029 Calculated here for you using QWEN3, taking into account leap years, a normal mean distribution, and alternating short and long intervals around the mean. |2025-10-06|2026-09-23|369,5|ATL| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |2026-09-23|**2029-08-19**|1.059,67|ATH| |2029-08-19|2030-08-15|369,5|ATL| |2030-08-15|2033-06-20|1.059,67|ATH| |2033-06-20|2034-06-16|369,5|ATL|

Qafa_YT

People panic selling. Wait until October 6th: that's apparently the ATL.

jermcnama

Good catch. By ATL I mean cycle low

wheelzoffortune

Good post, but it is worth noting that ATL isn't accurate. Cycle low is better.

jermcnama

Another way to look at this is how many days was the ATL before the halving. 2015 ATL→ ~542 days before halving 2018 ATL → ~513 days before halving 2022 ATL → ~515 days before halving It also points towards early October.

jermcnama

I’ve been trying to preach this to my friends for months. We’re in a 12 month bear market. Also: ATL Jan 14, 2015 → ATH Dec 17, 2017 - 111.1×  ATL Dec 15, 2018 → ATH Nov 2021 ~22.1×  ATL Nov 21, 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025 - 8.0× Whatever low it hits in October, we should expect a 3-5x return in 1064 days. This could be the last cycle where you could make a meaningful amount of money still.

thats_classick

ATL 2015 → ATH 2017: 1,064 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018: 364 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021: 1,064 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022: 364 days ATL Nov 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025: 1,064 days

Ar0war

ATL 2015 to ATH 2017=1064 days ATH 2017 to ATL 2018= 364 days ATL 2018 to ATH 2021=1064 days ATH 2021 to ATL 2022=364 days ATL 2022 to ATH 2025=1064 days ATH 2025 to ATH 2026= ... probably 5 October 2026 Not 100% certain but it is what worked for me till now

PimpinNevrSimpin

We have had a 650%+ run since the last bear market ATL. You couldve bought double of ATL because you were too scared at 15-16 so decided to FOMO and still have been at a cool 180%. A nice lil correction breather is nothing. Goofies see one bad year and start to acting like some hoes😂.

twitch-switch

Isnt that what the supposed super cycle is? Where Bitcoin peaks and dips in a pattern? According to the post apparently the last ATH was October 2025, and the next ATL is October 2026, then it repeats a certain number of days later. To be clear, this is a supposedly widely believed theory, Im not convinced, but curious.

LTP-N

I've always been an advocate for time IN is better than timing, and I tried to hold as long as I could, but once things go lower than their ATL and don't seem to have any support... I basically just called it wrong after 6 years 🤷

No_Broccoli_4427

cycle theory , ATL . ATH , look it up , it hasnt failed once , we hit the OCT ATH AS EXPECTED TO THE DATE , LOOK IT UP

This-Seaworthiness-1

AI tells me this is the exact dates (based on the data it could find, which is caveated by it might be slightly different on different exchanges) ATL 2015 → ATH 2017 Jan 14, 2015 - Dec 17, 2017 1,070 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018 Dec 17, 2017 - Dec 15, 2018 363 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021 Dec 15, 2018 - Nov 10, 2021 1,069 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022 Nov 10, 2021 - Nov 21, 2022 376 days ATL 2022 → ATH 2025 Nov 21, 2022 - Oct 6, 2025 1,324 days Be interested to know where others get the stats that say it matches up to the day from?

thats_classick

ATL 2015 → ATH 2017: 1,064 days ATH 2017 → ATL 2018: 364 days ATL 2018 → ATH 2021: 1,064 days ATH 2021 → ATL 2022: 364 days ATL Nov 2022 → ATH Oct 6, 2025: 1,064 days

FireBest59

Every single cycles there was something different that made people think it would be different, and yet it never was. So why would you disregard the cycle just because of etfs? The difference etfs made this cycle was an ATH and a higher ATL because more people will hold, that’s all. And like every other cycles, the top happened exactly on time as expected. You’re betting against something that has never been broken once, good luck