SOC

Snoo29444

PANW’s valuation is high for **two different reasons**: its quoted GAAP P/E is partly distorted by acquisition accounting, but the company also carries a genuinely enormous strategic premium. At the latest close, PANW was about **$364 per share**, with a **$291 billion market cap** and roughly a **347× trailing GAAP P/E**. In Q3, PANW reported a **$183 million GAAP operating loss** but **$814 million of non-GAAP operating income** because non-GAAP results excluded $517 million of stock compensation, $198 million of acquisition costs, and $280 million of acquired-intangible amortization. So the 347× GAAP P/E makes it look especially absurd. But even after normalizing, it is still extremely expensive. **What the market is actually paying** Using PANW’s current market cap, its April balance sheet, and FY2026 guidance: Approximate enterprise value: **$286 billion** EV/FY2026 revenue: **about 25×** EV/FY2026 adjusted free cash flow: **about 67×** Price/FY2026 non-GAAP EPS: **about 96×** EV/trailing unadjusted free cash flow: **about 75×** PANW is guiding to approximately $11.42 billion of FY2026 revenue, a 37.5% adjusted free-cash-flow margin, and $3.77–$3.79 of non-GAAP EPS. That is not merely an accounting illusion. **The stock really is priced at a rarefied valuation.** **Why investors are willing to pay it** **1. PANW is being treated as the cybersecurity “operating system”** The old PANW thesis was that it sold excellent firewalls. The current thesis is that enterprises will consolidate much of their security stack onto PANW: Network security and firewalls SASE Cloud security Security operations through Cortex/XSIAM AI application and agent security through Prisma AIRS Identity security through CyberArk Observability through Chronosphere The important idea is that cybersecurity is moving from dozens of disconnected point products toward a few integrated platforms. PANW may be the company with the broadest credible enterprise platform and the installed base to cross-sell it. About **65% of NGS ARR now comes from “platformized” customers**, with roughly **120% net revenue retention** among those customers. Management is targeting more than 4,000 platformizations and **$20 billion of NGS ARR by FY2030**. That combination—large installed base, integrated data, distribution, and cross-selling—is what causes investors to think of PANW less like an ordinary software vendor and more like the potential **Microsoft of cybersecurity**. **2. AI may expand every part of PANW’s addressable market** AI creates more software, more network traffic, more machine identities, more autonomous agents, and faster attacks. PANW can potentially monetize all of those: More AI traffic creates more demand for network inspection. AI agents create an identity-security problem, supporting CyberArk. Machine-speed attacks require automated SOC products such as XSIAM. Companies deploying models and agents need dedicated AI-security products such as AIRS. AI infrastructure generates massive telemetry and observability demand. There is already tangible growth beneath the narrative: SASE ARR was about **$1.6 billion and growing around 40%**, XSIAM ARR exceeded **$600 million and was growing around 100%**, and Prisma AIRS had surpassed 300 customers, with management expecting more than $100 million of ARR within two quarters. Reuters also attributed PANW’s recent guidance increase and rerating to stronger AI-related cybersecurity demand. **3. The cash-generation profile is unusually strong** PANW reported a trailing adjusted free-cash-flow margin of **38.5%**, up 430 basis points, and is targeting **40% by FY2028**. Investors are therefore not valuing it as a 14%-growth hardware company. They are valuing it as a company that could sustain: high-teens or 20%-plus recurring growth + approximately 40% cash margins That combination normally deserves a major premium. **4. Recent results encouraged investors to believe the bull case** The latest quarter showed: Organic NGS ARR growth: **28%** Organic RPO growth: **22%** Organic revenue growth: **14%** Adjusted FCF growth: **34%** Those recurring and forward-looking measures are considerably stronger than the organic revenue number. Investors appear to believe ARR growth will eventually pull recognized revenue growth higher as newer products scale. **What is already priced in** A rough reverse DCF illustrates the problem. Starting with approximately **$4.28 billion of guided adjusted FCF**, a roughly $286 billion enterprise value, a 3.5% terminal-growth assumption, and a 9%–10% discount rate, PANW needs approximately: **20%–23% annual free-cash-flow growth for ten years** to justify the present valuation. Management’s $20 billion FY2030 NGS ARR target implies roughly **22% annual ARR growth through FY2030**, so the valuation is effectively giving PANW substantial credit for hitting that ambitious target—and then continuing to compound strongly after 2030. That is possible. It is not a conservative base case. **The parts of the story the valuation overlooks** The headline Q3 numbers were heavily acquisition-assisted. Revenue grew 31%, but only **14% organically**; NGS ARR grew 60%, but **28% organically**; RPO grew 36%, but **22% organically**. There are also meaningful quality-of-earnings issues: Q3 stock compensation was **$517 million**, or roughly **17% of revenue**. Basic weighted-average shares rose from 665 million to 801 million year over year, approximately **20% dilution**. The company’s balance sheet now contains around **$29 billion of goodwill and acquired intangibles**, versus roughly $5.3 billion before the major acquisitions. “Adjusted” FCF adds back acquisition-related payments and certain capital expenditures, so it is more generous than plain free cash flow. Stock compensation is particularly important: it raises reported cash flow while transferring part of the business to employees. It is not equivalent to an ordinary cash expense, but it is not free either. **My assessment** **PANW deserves a premium. The present magnitude of that premium is much harder to defend.** The market is pricing PANW as: The winner in enterprise security consolidation. A major beneficiary of AI-driven attack-surface growth. A durable 20%-plus recurring-growth company. A future 40%-FCF-margin company. A highly successful integrator of CyberArk, Chronosphere, and future acquisitions. If all five happen, the stock can eventually grow into the valuation. But there is little allowance for merely “good” execution. Organic growth falling into the mid-teens, weaker CyberArk integration, continued heavy dilution, or a modest decline in software multiples could produce a severe de-rating even while the underlying business remains healthy. **My characterization: elite company, euphoric price.** The valuation is understandable, but at roughly 67× generous adjusted FCF, investors are paying for something close to the bull case rather than receiving much upside optionality. Yw for the meat proxy

thatguy1319xxx

SOC

Icy-Dimension2914

go zoom out on the SOC graph a little and you'll see why i'm mega-bullish rn

Icy-Dimension2914

my DD is infallible crude goes down -> stonks go up -> SOC goes up crude goes up -> oil stonks go up -> SOC goes up can't go tits up

Icy-Dimension2914

SOC is my energy play - recommend having a look into it

Icy-Dimension2914

SOC is printing today! Wouldn't be surprised if it goes 4x in the next few days (to where it was 3 months ago lol)

Icy-Dimension2914

Why's SOC printing today? :O

Icy-Dimension2914

SOC off to a good start premarket - did 🥭 post something again?

Icy-Dimension2914

Got a feeling SOC is about to pop off big

Icy-Dimension2914

Anyone played SOC before? The graph looks like it’s begging to 2-3x again soon

Icy-Dimension2914

My YOLO trade of the day is SOC - should go crazy if the california pipeline opens like 🥭 wants

vanceraa

Are you dense? Where did I say that it’s impossible for enterprises to use Chinese AI? I said enterprises *do not* use Chinese LLMs for anything critical by choice. Compliance is a nightmare, good luck following SOC2, guardrails are non existent and the CCP can install biases whenever and wherever they want. OAI and Anthropic don’t claim to be “open source” when they aren’t, and their compliance/guardrails/auditing capabilities are worlds apart from Chinese models. Please educate me more when you can’t even decipher the point I’m making.

NoOneMan79

Thats absurd. What does legal have to do about it? Chinese models can be inferenced by US vendors (Fireworks, Groq, DeepInfra) and good pricing, who have SOC2 compliance and offer BAAs. Are you telling me enterprise companies wont allow their tech departments to use AWS Bedrock in us-west2? So wait, if its not architecture/environment/data safety/location, then you are left to blame the weights alone. To even make this remotely possible you would have to prove there is something malicious deep in the neural net, such that it would cause exploits. And you would have to disprove that with US models.

Upn8th

If you mean on performance, on the Dec-Mar run, OXY did not "rip harder" than crude. It actually lagged quite a bit. Also lagged SOC, USO, UCO and GUSH, while mildly beating XOM and CVX.

Positive_Midnight758

Yeeted 100% of my portfolio into SOC. See you guys when the iran thing is done. I have done no DD and this is purely vibes based.

Plane-Angle4898

Playing around with SOC. Scalping has been pretty fun this week so far

far-canal-

imagine being amerifat and trying to understand SOC-CUH world cup - where’s my half time show

anon999976

SOC and JEM, especially SOC

cmalex777

SOC......🚀🚀🚀

GrandAd5014

Keep an eye on sable off shore SOC

Much_Candle_942

I was told, $SOC should be good with what's happening in middle east. Turns out - opposite!

levraimonamibob

SOC

Primary_Olive_5444

As the hyper-scalers load up on debt and seeing reduction in free operating cash flow, the idea of cost savings is bound to come up. And when management conversation touches that topic, the technical people in the group will ask how can we reduce the margins earn by our supply chain providers by going direct to the source. To design there is the EDA software layer (EDA players are like Cadence and Synopsis) before doing up the hardware silicon (mostly going to TSMC) So the foundry or design companies provide their IPs, Cell Libraries (e.g. 18A or 18AP | High Density or High Performance), design rules to those EDA players for integration and designing up the SOC requirements. Running simulations and fine tuning the voltage, frequency, critical path and temperature etc. Henceforth it's important to get on good terms with EDA. And Lip Bu was ex-cadence, so hopefully he can leverage his connections there. I can see a path where Intel integrate itself (assuming the foundry side can deliver), then it makes more sense for external customers to tap on Intel services (both ASIC and Foundry). For Design Technology Co-Optimziation (DTCO) -> Fabs Over at Fabs, silicon fabrication and then advanced packaging. Also includes product testing and validation (over at Intel Malaysia Penang) Or chiplet framework where chiplet A over TSMC and chiplet B at Intel then advanced packaging (CoWos or EMIB). So Intel can still or at least have >50% of earning something from it. As long as it's a good ROI rate. That's quite substantial cost savings, which is what the Meta and Hyper-Scalers need right now. Since the margins paid to providers like Broadcom, Marvell & Mediatek and finally to TSMC, can be trimmed from two layers to just 1 (direct to Intel). **Doesn't matter where you pay (division level: Intel DCG or Intel Foundry) as long as it's to Intel we'll set aside resources to cover that account.** That's how Lip Bu should view it.

Much_Candle_942

I was told  $SOC would 🌙  if Iran blockade and oil scarcity continues. Instead, it drops 7% today. LoL 

Geeoff18

I respect that you seem a reasonable guy. You have any thoughts on SOC? I've recently increased my position somewhat as its price has come down. I'm not actually betting on the squeeze, instead I'm betting on the outcome of a court case, but it seems that some squeeze dynamics could come into play, especially because the court case has the potential to deliver an irreversible catalyst and lately short volume has been very high and short interest is at 20%.

Total_Schedule591

!banbet SOC 50% 2w

Total_Schedule591

!banbet SOC 15 14d

Much_Candle_942

Anyone tracking $SOC ?  Why isn't it rocketing with so much good news flow, and the whole oil situation? 🤔

zjz

I don't blame people for being iffy about it, I trust it since I've seen the guts, but it is kind of unusual. Reddit's engineering and the snaptrade API dude's very expensive SOC2 audits say it's safe. I expect people will slowly filter in if we make the benefits worthwhile. The verified trade post type is genuinely pretty cool. I think people will dig it.

kurtrussellscologne

SOC should 3X to 5X when earnings report comes out next month

LividArmadillo2790

SOC calls and CVX shares

Aggravating_Brain_50

Sadly yes - SOC and KOS

Primary_Olive_5444

I like that idea, but Taiwan regulators would likely have blocked it. That’s the only name in Taiwan that does SOC design.

Aggravating_Brain_50

SOC high risk high reward

coolelel

So to put things in laymans terms. First let me talk about what Crowdstrike is. Crowdstrike make waves as an EDR company. You install an agent on every device that acts as an antivirus and tracker which reports all the data to one central platform for easy management. Of course, they sell additional tools, but everything comes second to their EDR. You aren't going to find companies that use crowdstrike for their other tools if they don't have an EDR. I also want to state that they are no longer the leader in EDR, despite popular belief. Microsoft actually overtook them fairly quickly as their Defender platform is easier and slightly cheaper to integrate. While they are the best Cyber Sec ONLY company, they aren't the leader in any particular category right now. The best in each category EDR - Microsoft Defender SIEM - Microsoft Sentinel (formely, splunk was the leader) Email - Microsoft Defender for email Cloud Security - Wiz MDR - Actually, I can give this to Crowdstrike, although you have dedicated MDR like RedCanary and Expel Code Security - Not entirely sure as it's evolving, but not Crowdstrike for sure Agentic Security - Eh, there is no market leader for this yet, but I doubt it'll be Crowdstrike. Web Security - Crowdstrike doesn't do web apps. This kinda ties into code security. So now. What's with the Cyber Security hype? There's 3 points to this. 1. The "Mythos" fear - Long story short, Mythos is able find tons of vulnerabilities and create CVE's. CVE's are basically a list of vulnerabilities. A big part of security is patching these. Now, new CVE's are ALREADY being created. Since before the time of AI. Sure, it may increase the amount being discovered, but none of the processes have changed. At this point, most people already have an EDR of some sort, and these AI changes haven't pulled Crowdstrike with it. 2. They have a new product to sell. Charlotte AI. Super expensive. Super fucking sucks. The idea is to have an AI agent go through and read all the logs and deep dive into issues. I think it cost around 100k for us to start? (I'm currently paying 250-300k for Crowdstrike rn). Sucks. Built a great alternative that runs off of claude the Falcon MCP that cost us a few hundred a month. Maybe someday it'll be better. 3. Reduce labor costs with their MDR. With AI agents running around, they can hire less SOC people for their MDR they sell. What is MDR? Instead of me hiring 3 people to work 24/7 on our security (and do nothing for 90% of it), they have a center that works 24/7 that checks alerts. Honestly, this is probably their best bet of increasing margins on their MDR side. But while this increases profit, doesn't do much for increasing revenue. All in all. Great company. But won't benefit as much from the AI security boom as people think. I think the other guy is right. People don't understand the nitty gritty of Cyber Security, so when they hear Cyber Security risk, they say buy random Cyber Security companies.

burner456987123

I took a flyer and bought 13 shares at $749 right before today’s market close. Of course, CRWD killed it on earnings. They also announced a 4 for 1 stock split: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20260603234051/en/CrowdStrike-Reports-First-Quarter-Fiscal-Year-2027-Financial-Results “AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: CRWD), today announced financial results for the first quarter fiscal year 2027, ended April 30, 2026. “In Q1, the worlds of cybersecurity and frontier AI collided: this was the Mythos moment. CrowdStrike is AI security infrastructure, critical to successful AI adoption,” said George Kurtz, CrowdStrike’s Founder and Chief Executive Officer. “Our record Q1 net new ARR, QuiltWorks coalition, and AIDR innovation are indicators of our own AI inflection point. We’re seeing platform adoption from existing customers, new logo lands, and increased partner engagement, each giving me the conviction to significantly raise our FY27 net new ARR guidance. The technology is here. The team is here. And the market opportunity is ours.” Commenting on the company's financial results, Burt Podbere, CrowdStrike's Chief Financial Officer, added, "CrowdStrike delivered strong Q1 results, exceeding expectations across all guided metrics while accelerating growth and expanding profitability and cash flow. We delivered record Q1 net new ARR of $256 million, record cash flow from operations of $591 million, and record free cash flow of $468 million. We are raising our full-year net new ARR growth expectations to 27.7%, at the midpoint, now an acceleration over the prior fiscal year. Our record Q2 pipeline, continued strong retention, Falcon Flex momentum, and the AI technology wave are each tailwinds giving us conviction in CrowdStrike's growth trajectory.” Stock Split Authorization CrowdStrike is also announcing that its board of directors has approved and declared a four-for-one split of the company’s outstanding shares of Class A common stock in the form of a stock dividend. Each stockholder of record at the close of business on June 25, 2026 (the “record date”) will receive, after the close of business on July 1, 2026, three additional shares for every share held on the record date, and trading is expected to begin on a split-adjusted basis on July 2, 2026. First Quarter Fiscal 2027 Financial Highlights Revenue: Total revenue was $1.39 billion, a 26% increase, compared to $1.10 billion in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Subscription revenue was $1.32 billion, a 26% increase, compared to $1.05 billion in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) grew 24% year-over-year to $5.51 billion as of April 30, 2026, of which $255.8 million was net new ARR added in the quarter. Subscription Gross Margin: GAAP subscription gross margin was 78%, compared to 77% in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Non-GAAP subscription gross margin was 81%, compared to 80% in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Income/Loss from Operations: GAAP loss from operations was $30.6 million, compared to $118.7 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Non-GAAP income from operations was $325.7 million, compared to $201.1 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Net Income/Loss Attributable to CrowdStrike: GAAP net income attributable to CrowdStrike was $27.8 million, compared to a loss of $104.3 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. GAAP net income per share attributable to CrowdStrike, diluted, was $0.11, compared to a loss of $0.42 in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Non-GAAP net income attributable to CrowdStrike was $283.4 million, compared to $184.7 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Non-GAAP net income attributable to CrowdStrike per share, diluted, was $1.10, compared to $0.73 in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Cash Flow: Net cash generated from operations was $590.9 million, compared to $384.1 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Free cash flow was $468.5 million, compared to $279.4 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Cash and Cash Equivalents was $4.55 billion as of April 30, 2026. Recent Highlights CrowdStrike’s module adoption rates grew to 51%, 35%, and 25% for six or more, seven or more, and eight or more modules, respectively, as of April 30, 2026. Announced the launch and expansion of Project QuiltWorks, an industry-first cybersecurity coalition featuring OpenAI and Anthropic to remediate frontier AI risk via the Falcon platform. The only cybersecurity company selected as a launch partner in both Anthropic’s Project Glasswing and OpenAI’s Trusted Access for Cyber (TAC) programs. Launched the Charlotte AI AgentWorks Ecosystem, a no-code development platform created with AWS, NVIDIA, and OpenAI to build and scale custom security agents on the Falcon platform. Unveiled Agentic MDR, the next evolution of managed detection and response that leverages elite analysts and intelligent agents to automate high-friction workflows and stop AI-accelerated breaches at machine speed. Established the endpoint as the epicenter for AI security with new Falcon platform innovations that extend discovery, governance, and runtime protection across SaaS, browser, and cloud environments. Expanded GovCloud offerings to accelerate public sector AI adoption, introducing FedRAMP High-authorized capabilities including Charlotte AI for Gov and External Attack Surface Management. Introduced CrowdStrike Falcon Data Security, a unified solution that discovers, classifies, and protects sensitive data across endpoints, browsers, SaaS, cloud, and AI workflows to stop data theft in real time. Expanded Cloud Detection and Response (CDR) capabilities to Google Cloud, providing unified, real-time protection and regional infrastructure support to meet global data sovereignty requirements. Introduced adversary-informed cloud risk prioritization within Falcon Cloud Security, unifying application behavior with adversary intelligence to identify and remediate the high-impact exposures most likely to be exploited. Expanded support for Microsoft Defender environments by launching Falcon OverWatch for Defender for managed threat hunting and Falcon Next-Gen SIEM integration, enabling organizations to ingest third-party telemetry and stop sophisticated attacks without requiring an additional sensor. Launched Flex for Services and the Zero Dollar Flex Fund, extending the Falcon Flex consumption model to CrowdStrike’s full services portfolio. Achieved FedRAMP High Authorization for Falcon for XIoT, extending the Falcon platform to secure mission-critical federal operational technology and connected infrastructure. Named the 2026 Google Cloud Security Partner of the Year for Infrastructure Protection for the second consecutive year and selected as a launch partner for the Google Agent Cloud Ecosystem to secure AI-driven applications. Formed a strategic partnership with Schwarz Digits to deliver Falcon natively on STACKIT’s sovereign cloud infrastructure, enabling enterprises to secure AI workloads while maintaining full data residency and sovereignty. Announced an expanded strategic collaboration with IBM to accelerate agentic SOC transformation by integrating Charlotte AI with IBM’s Autonomous Threat Operations Machine (ATOM). Expanded a strategic collaboration with Intel to optimize the Falcon platform for AI PCs, combining silicon-level telemetry with AI-native protection to secure data as workloads move to the endpoint. Named a Leader in the 2026 Gartner Magic Quadrant™ for Endpoint Protection1 for the seventh consecutive time, positioned furthest right for Completeness of Vision and highest for Ability to Execute among all vendors evaluated for the fourth time in a row. Named a Leader in the inaugural 2026 Gartner® ‘Magic Quadrant™ for Cyberthreat Intelligence Technologies’, a Customers’ Choice in the 2026 Gartner Peer Insights™ ‘Voice of the Customer for Security Information and Event Management (SIEM)’, a Customers’ Choice in the 2026 Gartner Peer Insights™ ‘Voice of the Customer’ for Managed Detection and Response (MDR)’ reports2. Named an Innovation and Growth Leader in the 2026 Frost Radar™: Cloud-Native Application Protection Platforms (CNAPP)3 for the fourth consecutive time. Recognized as Frost & Sullivan’s 2026 Global Company of the Year for Identity Threat Detection and Response4. Named a Leader and Fast Mover in the GigaOm Radar for Identity Threat Detection and Response (ITDR) Radar, v35. Financial Outlook CrowdStrike is providing the following guidance for the second quarter of fiscal 2027 (ending July 31, 2026) and increasing its guidance for fiscal year 2027 (ending January 31, 2027). Guidance for non-GAAP financial measures excludes stock-based compensation expense and related employer payroll taxes, amortization of acquired intangible assets (including purchased patents), acquisition-related expenses (credits), net, amortization of debt issuance costs and discount, mark-to-market adjustments on deferred compensation liabilities, legal reserve and settlement charges or benefits, costs (recoveries) associated with the July 19 Incident and related matters, net, strategic plan related charges (benefits), net, losses (gains) and other expense (income) from strategic investments, and losses (gains) on deferred compensation assets, and is adjusted for its long-term non-GAAP effective tax rate. The company has not provided the most directly comparable GAAP measures because certain items are out of the company's control or cannot be reasonably predicted. Accordingly, a reconciliation for non-GAAP income from operations, non-GAAP net income attributable to CrowdStrike, and non-GAAP net income per share attributable to CrowdStrike common stockholders, diluted, is not available without unreasonable effort.

DocInABox33

You are aware that an audit is not always sufficient nor is the fact that all audits are high quality. Who did the audit for SpaceX and what financial conflict of interest was present? It’s not just me who wants an independent review.. “[SpaceX Financials Flagged as Concern to SEC by Advocacy Group](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-06/spacex-financials-flagged-as-concern-to-sec-by-advocacy-group) By Carmen Arroyo SOC Investment Group, an adviser to union-affiliated pension funds, is urging US regulators to probe SpaceX’s financials ahead of a Wall Street debut that could value the company at more than $2 trillion, citing concerns over its relationships with Elon Musk’s other ventures. In a letter to the US Securities and Exchange Commission dated May 6, the Washington, D.C.-based group asked the agency to review SpaceX’s financial disclosures for accuracy and reliability, and #**make sure the rocket manufacturer’s auditor remains independent.** SOC Investment Group also urged the SEC to scrutinize the accounting of SpaceX’s transactions with other Musk companies, including xAI and Tesla Inc.”

SmugOmnivore

rivian is creating their own custom silicon and launching that SOC in their r2 platform. how is that AI pump?

MadeUpName314159

Probably on the NVDA news about a new ARM laptop and desktop SOC later this year. Market hasn't yet realized that INTC is the only high end fab that can make the chips, cause TSMC is full up making AI GPUs for the year and Samsung is too small volume/also already committed.

Supertainment

SOC

Alex_Trenholm

SMCI $50 tomorrow going to erase all my ODTE losses throughout history. SOC chucking the state of California is going to get me Lambo

Alex_Trenholm

$SOC - Gavin Newsom just got cucked

Goodlordy3

Sable Offshore $SOC short interest is silly at almost 20% given the recent legal wins

throwaway0845reddit

Depends. We have a lot of low level programming that goes deep into video codec implementations on state of the art SOC hardware. Lots of spec context etc. gpt is terrible.

NoOneMan79

You don't have to assume what I say is true. Quick example: [https://fireworks.ai/models/fireworks/kimi-k2p6](https://fireworks.ai/models/fireworks/kimi-k2p6) $0.95 / $0.16 / $4.00 Per 1M Tokens (input/cached input/output) You likely don't know who Fireworks is. Or Together Ai. Or Modal. That's sort of my point. I don't really care personally as long as they are SOC2, engage in BAAs, just give me the pricing per model. "how would you play this" I certainly would not invest in anything Chinese. There's a lot of money to be made off a silly pump and dump if that is your kind of thing, and this is of epic proportions. But my risk tolerance makes me allergic to AI stocks atm, especially with geopolitical turbulence.

Crotean

They leapfrogged Intel in processor speed and performance for several years and are dominant in the dedicated SOC market, IE game consoles and their server chips made dramatic improvements when they started beating Intel.

Airhostnyc

Next up SOC

LividArmadillo2790

Buying more SOC calls just because they’re pissing off Cali socialists 🤷

WiseWorldliness8405

IMO NWBOs future is very bright: 1. MHRA approval 2. FDA approval 3. Worldwide approval 4. 7 MMs settle lawsuit for billions 5. Partnerships announced, manufacturing expanded 6. Up listing announced to NASDAQ, or maybe NYSE 7. Hub and spoke franchise implemented with new partners 8. NWBO leadership and board changes, corporate offices move 9. Revenue generated beyond belief 10. New SOC for solid cancer tumors, maybe all cancers 11. New trials for all cancers paid for by partners 12. Cures many cancers 13. Stock price soars, with huge dividends, proving to be longs greatest investment 14. Ten years from now, NWBO sold to AI

LividArmadillo2790

SOC is the ultimate YOLO as momentum shifts to energy

LividArmadillo2790

Time to hop on the SOC train

Pelvis-Wrestly

The sneaker win is that they build their own silicon and SOC/SIPs. That gives them a huge pricing and scale advantage over all the other EV manufacturers in the world. Pay close attention to what the VW group does with their tech stack. Rivian is cute and flashy, but VWAG builds 8m cars a year, and there are about $1000 of silicon in each one. If they continue down the Tier 1 development model, buying all their tech from Bosch, Harman, Continental LG, etc, then the Rivian chips are no big deal. If they pivot and start buying all their chips from the Rivan foundry, then RIVN is riding the R2's to the moon. Source: am automotive tech engineer.

Much_Candle_942

Where's that guy who was arguing with me about SOC, and the storyline of California letting the company sell oil? That was pure "trust me bro" thesis at best 😂

CrispityCraspits

This "investor group" is an activist advisor associated with the "Strategic Organizing Center," which is a trade union organizing group. It is not an investor of any sort, nor does it even give investment advice. https://www.socinvestmentgroup.com/ >The SOC Investment Group is not a named fiduciary for any pension or other fund or plan, nor does it render investment advice. It's an activist group doing activist things. Earlier this week it was urging Wal-Mart to report on how immigration policy is hurting its business. >This indicates that institutions are now paying attention to the SpaceX IPO, It really doesn't, at least not in the way the article suggests. It indicates that a pro-union activist group is opposed to Musk and Space X. If an actual institutional investor starts raising concerns, then that would be meaningful. It's fine to hate Musk and his companies but if you want to be investing you should be careful about believing that something is true because you want it to be true.

MartinEdge42

the pension fund pushback is the right pressure point. spx index inclusion is what triggers passive flow whether holders want spacex exposure or not. SOC's framing about disclosure quality is the legal lever, if spacex gets graded as a verified-financials risk thats how vanguard/blackrock funds get pushed to opt out. the precedent matters more than the spacex outcome itself - sets the bar for future private-to-public conversions

krLMM

This one is 100% stock manipulation and it's going to happen more and more as we go. The playbook here is: They looked into businesses that were about to be bankrupt or in distress since Biden - with some remote blame to put on his admin. They found Spirit Airlines. They invested in them through stocks and options. Then they published this 'rescue package' and will rack in millions. If you want to bet on corruption there are other potential plays at hand:  1. $SOC is an oil drilling company that got operations blocked by environmental risk in California (a pipe spill). They are beginning operations  2. CRML or other metal companies with presence in Greenland. Every two weeks or so Trump will post about having strategic access to Greenland for minerals and the stock will pop (look chart). If NATO countries don't bend to the word of the day he plays this card. 3.NextDecade Corporation NewFortress Energy or other natural gas / energy companies if Trump will remove restrictions and allow exports. Notice that these companies are terrible and failing. They are speculative plays based on corruption for short term gains if Trump decides to make money. I cannot think of more, maybe you have some ideas.

Total_Schedule591

Special shoutout to Sable offshore for their tremendous bravery at the lunch outing, their ticker is SOC if you're not familiar with them but they're great people, wonderful, beautiful, big dicked people 🤲

BuddyIsMyHomie

Actually, I believe he is greedy and power-hungry at all costs. You do not need to be “smart” but actually stupid and crazy to do what he did to knowingly create this demand. Check out his statements about $SOC; I believe he knew what he was doing. I traded off it too but was hoping to lose because I thought he would come to his senses as a human being.

Whodiditandwhy

Another growing bull case is that California is rapidly running out of jet fuel because of the Iran war. If Claude's math is to be believed, refining 75% of SOC's oil production into jet fuel is enough to cover ~15% of California's jet fuel demand per day keeping ~300 planes from being grounded.

Local_Praline2593

super interesting. from my POV it all depends on the SOC 2 Type 2 Report that is missing. If they verify what DeFi claims it will skyrocket

c-u-in-da-ballpit

Please build a calendly alternative in a single morning. Remember to include - API integration across Google Calendar, Microsoft Graph, and Apple CalDAV — three separate protocols, three separate auth flows, three separate deprecation cycles you don’t control - Bi-directional sync with real-time conflict detection across all three simultaneously, accounting for propagation delays where a booked event hasn’t yet appeared in the calendar API - Distributed concurrency control so two people hitting the same open slot at the same millisecond don’t both get a confirmation email - Booking atomically touches Postgres, Redis, a job queue, a calendar API, a video conferencing API, and an email provider — partial failure at any step leaves corrupted state - Timezone resolution across every UTC offset on Earth including half-hour zones, DST transitions, and governments that change their DST rules with weeks of notice - Availability logic that simultaneously enforces buffer times, minimum notice windows, maximum advance booking, daily meeting caps, per-day custom hours, and date-specific overrides without any combination breaking - Round-robin assignment with fairness weighting, capacity limits, and account ownership routing that stays correct across cancellations, no-shows, and reschedules - An embeddable widget that runs sandboxed inside iframes on customer websites - Zoom, Teams, and Meet auto-link generation with unique credentials per meeting - Stripe integration with refund logic, failed payment handling, and no ambiguous confirmed/unconfirmed booking state - Salesforce and HubSpot sync that logs meetings on their API versioning schedule - Webhook delivery with retry queues, exponential backoff, dead letter queues, and idempotent replay - Reminder sequences that are atomically cancelled when a meeting is cancelled 30 minutes before the job fires, across a distributed queue - GDPR deletion covering your primary DB, backups, analytics, third-party logs, and audit trails - SOC 2 Type II continuous evidence collection, access reviews, and incident response

Mecha-Dave

I look at the memes here and then decide if they are regarded or not after googling the company. I'll "yolo" on penny stocks with the change left over from bigger transactions. $RKLB, $TDY, $ADM, $SOC, and well timed $TSLQ are ones that did well for me. Also $SLV with good timing and $IAU. Recently $WMT, $CVX, and $CSTC

jc4466

$SOC Begins sales https://sableoffshore.com/news/news-details/2026/Sable-Offshore-Corp--Begins-Oil-Sales-from-the-Santa-Ynez-Pipeline-System/default.aspx

No-Phrase-4692

Am I regarded or retarded for holding SOC for the same reason?

Puzzleheaded_Log6967

Curious what your guys take us on Sable Offshore in CA pipeline forced to open and its stock. SOC

corporalboobs

SOC $17 calls expiring may 1. SOC deez nuts riding up up and away

evnaczar

My portfolio is making loads with oil stocks $SOC

Any-Love-6016

SOC was just on fox news and there stock is climbing ..Almost 1.00 while I was watching the news..lol

BouRock

$SOC?

SamLeCoyote_Fix_1

I am not expert, sorry. But, check this: iPath’s key security differentiator is that every agent runs as an identity‑bound actorinside the same RBAC and folder permissions already used for people and RPA robots, so there’s no “shadow access.” All AI traffic also goes through a central AI Trust Layer that enforces encryption, data‑privacy rules, and blocks enterprise data from being used to train external models. UiPath’s “official‑level” security edge is that it is the first enterprise platform certified AIUC‑1 for AI agent security, a dedicated standard that tests agents under real attack conditions (jailbreaks, prompt injection, hallucinations, unsafe tool use, etc.) via independent quarterly audits. On top of that, the underpinning Automation Cloud / Orchestrator already holds HITRUST r2, SOC 2 Type 2, ISO 27001/17001, and ISO 42001, which most other agent orchestrators don’t yet bundle around agentic‑automation at the same level...

BobbywiththeJuice

"Make this app SOC2 compliant. No mistakes" - Delve's entire business plan

corporalboobs

SOC

TonyStarks81

Last year there were tons of posts about SOC. Now I see nothing and this seems like the exact situation that would make them pump. What am I missing.

Low_Sheepherder7990

SOC is interesting if you can stomach the Cali legal battle... $1B in revenue anticipated this year with the pipelines running again. $2B market cap.

Hamzehaq7

sounds like you hit the jackpot with $SOC! i’ve been eyeing oil plays too, and your breakdown is super solid. that $35 target seems pretty achievable, especially with the DPA in play. i mean, with that short interest, you could be looking at a wild ride if they really have to cover. just curious, have you considered any potential risks or how this plays out if the oil market takes a dive? would love to hear your thoughts!

onamixt

\> **The Setup** A year ago, I dug into a 13(f) filing from one of the few investors I actually respect and found a massive value play: **$SOC (Sable Offshore Corp)**.  Phil Mickelson? LMAO

wumr125

Ceasefire? Lol You bombed a school. Only america tolerates the killing of its children en masse This war will be as long as it takes for America to capitulate. Oil is going to be very expensive all year Bankruptcies will be numerous Im thinking green energy (GEV, BEPC), solar(FSLR) and usa based crude producer like SOC maybe could suddenly rip Warfare companies will go up, uncle sam is spending billions on missiles to blow up huts And orobaly drone and counter drone companies will be picked up by the usa and suddenly 100x Ibjust wish I knew more drones companies... Im not convinced about RCAT Outside of usa I'm buying euad again, if America has all its toys blown up the eurokids will have to make their own Everything else is going to shit

Overall-Breeze95

I remember looking into $SOC a while back. The regulatory hurdles seemed like such a big risk, but congrats on the foresight! Might have to do some more DD myself now. What's your exit strategy?

BimmerBro98

SOC

Low_Sheepherder7990

Looks like SOC finally heard they were pumping oil through the pipelines again… thing moved zero on that news

Old_Freedom_9549

SOC can’t seem to keep the pumpage, constantly giving it back

Low_Sheepherder7990

SOC says otherwise

Low_Sheepherder7990

It’s a buy the dip on EONR and SOC kinda day.

Goodlordy3

$SOC 8k dropped this morning. Oil is flowing west coast gang! 22% of float is short \~7days to cover. She's going to moooooooooooon

BouRock

$SOC has huge squeze potential with asset filled in capability

PixeledPathogen

Union Square Park Capital Management LLC acquired a new position in Sable Offshore Corp. (NYSE:SOC - Free Report) during the 3rd quarter, according to the company in its most recent Form 13F filing with the Securities & Exchange Commission. The fund acquired 136,500 shares of the company's stock, valued at approximately $2,383,000. Sable Offshore comprises about 0.9% of Union Square Park Capital Management LLC's investment portfolio, making the stock its 25th largest position. Union Square Park Capital Management LLC owned about 0.14% of Sable Offshore as of its most recent SEC filing.

Accomplished-Rain856

Buying some SOC (sable offshore) . Not much but a little a seeing what happens over the next 6 months

InfiniteNerve1384

SOC trade nights or just days?

InvestTradeEarn

$SOC based on the new order to start pumping oil and over 40% short interest that wasn't expecting that order

Consy98

What do you think of $SOC? Trump gave them approval Friday to start pumping oil again, located off the Cali coast?

Much_Candle_942

Dont need account to read the crap there. The more convinced an "analysis" there, higher the chance that it's exit trap.  By the way, where was this analysis when SOC was $8 just 2 weeks ago??

InvestTradeEarn

We are getting off track. Respectfully. SOC was never a desert driller. They offer California oil just like any other California producer and the federal government identified them as having oil valuable to secure national interests and provide stable, affordable, domestic, and reliable oil to meet national needs. It was specifically identified that it would help alleviate California's reliance on foreign oil. The oil and gas experts that made this decision to identify SOC specifically and no other company, those are the experts in this area. I would rely on their judgment. The company has always been valued based on being a California oil producer, and the order now makes them a viable producer that is live which has been the hope of the company and the stock since it's inception. Best of luck

Insteadly

You sound bitter. Sorry for \*your\* experience. I bought Sable when it was the $10 Flame SPAC and sold at $28 last August when it became obvious that OSFM wasn't going to deliver a permit. It wasn't until December that OSFM acknowledged it. SOC was one of my best investments, not because of the 180% gain, but because of how much money I put into it. Oil is flowing to Pentland before Monday. Good luck to all longs!

HEK293INVAX

SOC BRN YGRAF EONR -it's the black gold moment

Metrostation984

This is one of my better plays. Since the DD here about a year ago I have been in this, sometimes bagholding sometimes swingtrading. Made some good returns on the puts right around the time they received the notice that they were NOT allowed to drill. Slowly positioned out of my calls before that and bought more lottery calls at the bottom. I was gonna buy some puts at these prices 17/18$ since this whole situation could be a nail in SOCs coffin if it doesn’t work out. Luckily for this one particular play, 🥭 went full regard and created a situation in which oil prices are very high and gives SOC the permission to drill. For anyone wanting to jump in, assess for yourself whether this is a viable play at this price. SOC has a lot of extra liabilities due to lawsuits and this operation taking so long. Short term it should still rip into the low to mid twenties, just from past movements.

TrailerParkBuddha

They already have dilution chambered and ready to fire off. I ran this post through my AI assistant and then had it do an analysis of its finacials and possibility of dilution. Company had zero revenue last year and loans due in the next 90 days. Here is what it says regarding dilution: "​3. Dilution Risk: How Likely is a "Pump and Dump"? ​The risk of dilution on a price spike is High to Certain. ​The $250M ATM: $SOC already has an active "At-The-Market" (ATM) offering facility. Management has shown they are not afraid to pull the trigger; they issued $545 million in new stock in 2025 alone. ​The Warrant Overhang: There are millions of warrants ($SOC.W) with an exercise price of $11.50. With the stock at ~$17, these are "in the money." If warrant holders exercise, it dilutes your position but adds cash to the company's balance sheet. ​The Refinancing Requirement: To pay off the Exxon loan in 90 days, $SOC must either refinance with a bank (hard to do with zero current revenue) or raise massive amounts of equity. A "pump" to $25-$30 would be the perfect window for management to dump 20-30 million new shares to pay down debt." If retail pumps this, it is certain they (and most likely OP since they're trying to draw liquidity) will dump. They basically HAVE to. If you're gonna get in, better be comfortable with being in the red for some amount of time.

Consy98

Can you give an honest appraisal on $SOC ? oil company after big legal battle given government contract to sell oil - immediately gains $40m in revenue PLUS allowed to started pumping today onsite, being the only supplier on the West Coast. Juicy part? Small float and 36% short interest. Already up 10% after hours , price target of $29 from Jeffries provided legal case goes their way which happened today. Can you tell me whether I’ve been pumped full of hope please?

Conscious_Project770

Rub away the earlier assumptions for a moment. Most of the selling happened while people were waiting for the signature. During the session nothing had been formally signed yet, so traders assumed the worst and sold first. The move during the day was largely that uncertainty being priced in. Another widely circulated idea was that California would immediately seek a preliminary injunction even after invocation of the Defense Production Act. That could theoretically happen, but it becomes far more complicated once operations are tied to federal emergency authority. Operationally the constraint was never the rigs themselves. The rigs can fire at any time; the bottleneck was logistics: • Storage had filled up • Pipelines remained politically difficult to reopen • Production therefore could not meaningfully increase Now the framework shifts with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve release combined with the DPA authority. In that configuration the company is not just protected from certain regulatory interruptions; if production is mandated and capacity exists, failure to produce could actually create legal exposure. The expectation circulating among traders is: • Roughly 500k barrels from storage sold this week • All three rigs operational by week-end • Production ramp following immediately after With roughly 46% short interest, the setup becomes less about the legal debate and more about positioning. If the operational ramp materializes, it is difficult to construct a scenario where Sable Offshore Corp. ($SOC) remains below ~$40 for long. With that level of short exposure, a squeeze scenario toward $50 is not implausible. In short: the drop looked dramatic during the day, but it was largely pre-confirmation panic rather than a change in the underlying operational trajectory.

Consy98

$SOC is the only play this week - oil company after big legal battle given government contract to sell oil - immediately gains $40m in revenue PLUS allowed to started pumping today onsite, being the only supplier on the West Coast. Juicy part? Small float and 36% short interest. Already up 10% after hours , Google it if you don’t believe me - price target of $29 from Jeffries provided legal case goes their way (IT DID - TODAY).This is the play of the war! Search out the DD in WSB! $SOC $SOC $SOC

Consy98

$SOC is the only play this week - oil company after big legal battle given government contract to sell oil - immediately gains $40m in revenue PLUS allowed to started pumping today onsite, being the only supplier on the West Coast. Juicy part? Small float and 36% short interest. This is the play of the war! Search out the DD in WSB