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the_kaaat

“Better” is again relative. Why is something better? Because you say it? Your mom? The hedge fund manager on his podcast because he secretly owns 20% of it? Some banker on Wall Street? Look at how new technologies nullify established companies (iphone killing nokia and blackberry in a year or two), or how suddenly US debt is not so attractive as Trump is getting less and less predictable. All these assets are all safe and better until suddenly they are not. The sooner you accept this the better, then you will understand the infinite possibilities of trading

Awkward_Potential_

I use stables on my Coinbase visa and I'm an American. It pays me a yield of 4.5% and I use it basically like a debit card. Are there any other debit cards that pay that much? But "for US citizens" is doing a ton of work there. You're conceding that any non US citizen probably does have a reason to own stables. 

Zealousideal_Ear4180

The Genius act doesn’t provide Dollar pegged stable coins with government backed support like U.S. banks have. For US citizens there is no reason to ever purchase Stablecoins to hold.

1FunkyFriedChicken

It should pass. The US needs regulation established by law. My senator are both democrats and seem to support it

JustStopppingBye

>There will never be another because stablecoins are the future of crypto and government adoption was the final nail in the coffin. Stablecoins, institutional/governmental infrastructure require oracles when you want the stablecoin integrated into more sophisticated financial systems.[This is exactly why Chainlinks CEO Sergey Nazarov, is so deeply involved with the US government and regulators](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTI_bw0fxw) [https://chain.link/blog/united-states-department-of-commerce-macroeconomic-data](https://chain.link/blog/united-states-department-of-commerce-macroeconomic-data)

ThatsnotTechno

You sound like a smart person. UK only stopped allowing marriage with minors in 2022/2023. Certain states in the US still allow it. You were saying?

LJizzle

Exactly. Which is why people lending the US govt money are demanding higher returns. Historically inflation was lower and trust in the US govt/economy was higher, so people would accept a lower return. Currently, inflation is higher and trust in the US govt/economy is lower, so the lenders want a higher return.

Awkward_Potential_

And you don't think the US government has ways of knowing who holds that many bonds?  Wouldn't they be investigating that if they thought Tether was lying about their holdings?  

Awkward_Potential_

They're one of the top US bond holders in the world. 

Classic93

Same could be said about the US dollar...

Superminerbros1

Banks typically do not pay interest for money in checking accounts, and some banks basically don't provide interest for savings. Chase is the biggest bank in the US and it's savings rate for normies is 0.01%. that's $10 in interest per 100k that you have in your savings account. All banks lend out your money for more than they give you. If you're getting 1%, then the bank probably loaned your money out for 4% and is profiting the difference.

reddit4485

>US Core CPI Hits 5-Year Low CPI is **up** 0.4% this month! What is this guy talking about!

Sure_Ant7939

4.5% within 60 minutes of the US Core CPI print landing at a 66-month low.

Heatsincebirth

It's not one group. It's three separate groups that do not move hand in hand. Institutions (Harvard, pensions etc) and corporations (Tesla, Strategy etc) and governments (UAE, US, China, El Salvador etc) do not have a common focus that would cause them to buy, sell or HODL in the same way, for the same reason or with the same time preference. There is no danger to Bitcoin based on the sum of their holdings.

keralaindia

It's not that great, looked into it heaily. You can only do the down payment at 20% and you have to pledge 250% of the value. What would have been cool is if you could just buy a 400k house for 1 million in Bitcoin that you just keep on Coinbase and have the house essentially for free at that point. Instead, it's more like you can pay the $80k down payment for that house with the pledged $200k in Bitcoin on Coinbase, and you pay the other $320k in US dollars.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, September 11th:** 2026 - $79,021 2025 - $115,508 2024 - $57,343 2023 - $25,163 2022 - $21,769 2021 - $45,201 2020 - $10,401 2019 - $10,178 2018 - $6,321 2017 - $4,161 2016 - $607 2015 - $240 2014 - $479 2013 - $142 2012 - $11.3 2011 - $5.90 2010 - $0.10 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $1.59 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 966517; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 9.91 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.57MB. Bitcoin's average block time for the year 2026 is 10.21 minutes. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 127.45 trillion; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 19-Sep-2026 (within 1,163 blocks). The mining difficulty is currently expected to increase 3.09% to 131.39 trillion. Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $246,939 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miners' revenue for the last 7 days is $39.52M; which translates to $0.0418 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 83,483 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 120,212 total Bitcoin nodes; with 26,954 being reachable nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 944 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $27.55 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 708,412. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 2.49 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $0.32; with the median values being 0.39 sats/VB & $0.05 respectively. There are currently 20.08M ₿ in circulation, leaving 0.92M to be mined. There are currently 4.13M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 20.57% of circulating supply. There are currently 59,331,067 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 165.22M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 11-Sep-2026 is $21,925. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2026 is $72,464. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 1,265 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 12.65 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2026 was $58,558.86 on 30-Jun-2026. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2026 was $96,929.33 on 14-Jan-2026. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2026 was $57,747.76 on 01-Jul-2026. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2026 was $97,860.60 on 14-Jan-2026. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2026 was -$10,317.60 on 05-Feb-2026. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2026 was +$7,853.29 on 06-Feb-2026. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin is down 37.38% from the ATH. However, Bitcoin is up 36.84% from the lowest point since the last ATH. Bitcoin has not reached an all-time high in 2026. It has been 340 days since the last ATH.

Movykappa

These are the rates at which "people" are expected to lend money to the US government If the risk is greater, the rate increases

WoWMHC

Iran killed over 10,000 protestors this year alone… You can disagree with what the US is doing and also not root for Iran’s government…

Ill-Assist-5246

Delusional? Hardly. Remember, the US government (incl. FBI, NSA, CIA, etc...) has to work with politicians and lawmakers to "make change happen." Bitcoin does NOT have to answer to them and, instead, "consensus" is how change occurs. You are also discounting the (very capitalistic) force of "profit motive". No node or miner is going to "just sit there" as Quantum Computing improves. Instead, they will adapt and fork (if necessary) to protect the network. Also, remember the Bitcoin Difficulty Adjustment (built into the protocol). As Quantum Computing improves, they could just augment the Difficulty Adjustment. Who knows - there could come a point in the future where Quantum Computers are the hardware used for Bitcoin Mining. Realistically, it sounds rather unlikely that the FBI, CIA, banks and governments will all "somehow" evade being hacked by the future capabilities of Quantum Computing, while Bitcoin just "sits there" and is demolished. Bitcoin has a rich history of adaptability with a strong tech community behind it. It's going to adapt and it's going to do so easily and readily - if for no other reason than it can. If you really stop and think about it, it is far more likely that Quantum Computing will lead to theft from banks (which ALL have online components) before it steals your Bitcoin. In fact, it would NOT surprise me if the banking community looks to the Bitcoin community to solve its own concerns about Quantum Computing.

Romanizer

For now, yes because it's mainly retail-driven until recently. Once Bitcoin gets a lower risk weighting (the US could get a signal for this end of this year), banks could accumulate it for their balance sheets. That would be a tipping point moment, devaluing everything outside of Bitcoin.

Outflow_

Yeah the EU is a leader in the environmental credit market. As far as the solar systems, only in the US right now but as far as selling the NFTs with Outflow, anyone can buy them. I agree though. I'm not sure what you call environmental credits in the EU but here they are called Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs). I know the EU has very strict high quality standards too. Our Outflow could technically qualify as RECs but i'm careful about the claims we're making since our methodology is innovative so I just want to be careful there but they ultimately could. The owners of the solar systems own the rights to their RECs so we have the ability too. People sell NFT art and that's what this is at it's current stage. If you go to our OpenSea account: [https://opensea.io/\_outflow\_/galleries](https://opensea.io/_outflow_/galleries) we have our NFTs listed without Outflow tokens but that's what we are doing next is attaching Outflow so solar production to our NFTs. Also, the NFT art are created from the permitted engineered plansets and construction photos it took to build the solar energy systems. This is not crypto. It's a tokenized historical solar electricity megawatt hour. Our goal is to start here. When people buy our NFTs regardless if they have Outflow tokens or not they are supporting the larger vision of Outflow which is to move the worlds energy infrastructure towards decentralized electricity e.g. rooftop solar or in general behind the meter solar projects. We don't do utility scale or centralized solar projects as discussed. Check us out on OpenSea.

JayDee80-6

I was an early investor and bitcoin believer as well. Now a skeptic. Bitcoin has some major structural hurdles. The most obvious are the massive power consumption (as electric is becoming more expensive and scarce due to Ai), governments, and transaction fees. I also think bitcoin being seen as a store of value originally and morphing into a speculative investment didn't help it either. At the end of the day I realized bitcoin could easily be banned by world governments in a scenario where their currency value is collapsing. They did this with gold during the great depression. If there was ever a scenario where USD (and ither fiat currencies) were losing massive amounts of value due to capital flight into decentralized currencies, governments would have to step in to stop it. The US government has a tremendous amount of infratsurcture to stop bitcoin. This is a major major problem for bitcoin.

koalajunction

Same. I just managed to get out because the European BlockFi was still allowing withdrawals. The US accounts were already blocked.

_blockchainlife

Dont you get 5% per year every year for 30 years? Am I not understanding this correctly? https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y

Ok_Bowl_2002

Start the money printer and invade Iran with ground troops. The US empire will fall within a decade. But first there will be a civil war, left vs right

OxbridgeDingoBaby

A Reddit take if I’ve ever seen one. If you take issue with the US murdering innocent civilians, you should take issue with the Iranian Regime doing the exact same - not to mention against its own people. Khamenei literally had a women executed because she didn’t want to keep her rapists baby, not to mention the tens of thousands of innocent protestors and kids who did nothing wrong but express themselves. It’s disgusting that anyone would route for the regime.

Putblug1856

I mean, i find it kind of cool in terms of the technical aspect. But seems kind of pointless atm in terms of market value, right now it speaks more to the nerd in me than the crypto enthusiast. However, it feels like it could have a value. Have you checked oppurtunity outside of the US? I live in sweden and When it comes to the green transition, Sweden is actually way ahead of most of the world. Around 65% of our total energy consumption—including heating and transportation—comes from renewables, which puts us at the very top of the EU. Our electricity grid is also pretty much entirely fossil-free, running on a mix of hydro, nuclear, and wind power. A big reason why we are leading this shift is our long history of smart economic incentives and infrastructure: The Green Tax Deduction (Grönt avdrag): This has been a massive driver for regular homeowners. Right now, you get an automatic tax reduction directly on your invoice. It covers 15% of the total cost for solar panels and an impressive 50% for home batteries and EV chargers. It makes the upfront investment so much easier to swallow. District Heating & Smart Grids: Instead of every house having its own gas boiler like in many other countries, our cities use massive district heating networks that run on bioenergy and industrial waste heat. On top of that, our smart grid infrastructure has practically turned normal households into 'prosumers' who can easily produce and sell their own power back to the grid. Strict Carbon Taxes: Sweden was one of the first countries to introduce a heavy carbon tax back in the 90s. It made fossil fuels expensive early on, forcing businesses and industries to innovate and transition into green tech way before it became a global trend.So it’s really a combination of direct financial help for individuals and decades of high-level policy making that keeps us ahead. So this kind of invention would probably be very easier to find a lucrative function for here with so much government funding going to these kind of innovations and the sector in General. I mean our postal service(wich also includes denmark as well as norway and Finland wich also is world leading nations in renewable energy with shared goal) runs 53% of its whole fleet on fossile free fuels. The scandinavian goal is that our whole postal service will be 100% fossile free 2030. Thats all of scandinavia so 4 countries and a very large area so includes alot of heavy traffic and not just small postal viechles. And its in 4 years, so that should give you a pretty good perspective on the kind of motivation and economical sacrifice going on here. You probably cannot find an eqvivalent outside of EU in terms of government funding and it really dont serve a purpose towards a private market without a government "incentive" of some kind or am I wrong? If you can find a utility for your project i can almost promise you will have the best oppurtunity here in terms of value, maybe not size thou but this feel like it can do alot of good in the world we live in. If you just can get in to the right rooms with The right People and in the hands of a team with both the technical understanding and political connection. Especially with our "smart grid" i could really see a utility for this kind of verifiable on chain data.

A1JX52rentner

You can lend the US government your own money. these are the bonds. If the yields rise, people are saying: Yeah, I want more than 4% before I give you my money. Why do they do that? Because they do not trust the US government. If you invest, you want at least preserve your buying power. So yields rising basically means that the market expect inflation to rise.

Poison_Machine-876

When has the US tried to invade Mexico or Canada for the purposes of a conquer??? Nothing alike

ErnestosQ

Yeah, it doesn't. But the people of Iran are not in war with the US. Its the regime who is at war. So when someone says they are rooting for the pther side, to me it sounds like they are rooting for the regime.

jackob50

They both treat their neighboring states like their backyard, interfering or even conquering. And of course funding several incospucious people. US especially has armed lot's of its enemies: the foundamedalists Afgans twice (to be fair the second time was involuntary).

jackob50

Aren't US and Russia doing the same;

AeonPeter

Basically investors do not trust the system they used to, especially with the speed US debt is increasing. Wasn’t Trump going to solve it? So tired of winning..😂

TechnicalNail4555

I’m rooting for them. Is that bad? As a US citizen.

mebeast227

Nationalizing US oil is about the only thing that could save it and the govt would rather mobilize the army on civilians en mass before considering that.

LionRivr

US can control dollars. US cannot control BTC. Therefore BTC will not replace dollars. I still think BTC is the most ideal form of money. Humans need it. But deep down Humans don’t want it. They want control. BTC doesn’t let them control.

EF_Azzy

Realistically the US is semi ok. If you want to see actual financial trouble based on a countries debt check out Japan's.

BooksandBiceps

Equating the Iranian regime and the US elections are… Jesus fucking. Christ man. And, Iran itself reported the deaths of civilians when it was putting down “dissent”. Are you stupid, or just a paid actor. Like, none of this is remotely questionable.

Sad-Froyo-3198

People in the US are paid in dollars, and taxes are paid in dollars. People around the world save in US dollars but spend their local currency. I think this is the ultimate destination for btc.

mmalluck

It's not just the US. Treasure rates are climbing in Japan, UK, Germany, France, Australia, Norway, and others. Some of it has to do with the death of corporate pension funds which would buy up the 30 year bonds. Less demand has resulted in more decerning buyers.

Omarkhayyamsnotes

These are the "deepminds" of the US state apparatus. The people with the big ideas. These are people who are willing to try another round of "crushing sanctions" after 55 years of abject failure with sanctions. Iran just turned around and traded with Iran and China.

Omarkhayyamsnotes

The US Treasury is flailing. The US sent a carrier group to the Gulf and couldn't get the job done. Okay. So they attempt "economic warfare" against the Persians. Wait a moment...we've had crushing sanctions against Iran already for ...55 years! The sanctions aren't even new!

colemusic1

Because US10Y and oil futures are absolutely soaring beyond relentless fucking amounts. Like genuinely insane. Oil futures is up +23.81% this past month alone. That is a ridiculously hostile macro move that indicates inflation fears / rate hikes. And US10Y is literally almost at 5%, which hasn’t been this high since 2023. It’s absolutely annihilating tech / growth stocks, and therefore also crypto / high beta assets. People are moving money out of volatile assets and into risk free ones

AgedActor

Curious which country / currency is that which is strengthened versus the US dollar in the last 12 months.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, September 10th:** 2026 - $77,221 2025 - $113,955 2024 - $57,649 2023 - $25,832 2022 - $21,681 2021 - $44,884 2020 - $10,363 2019 - $10,116 2018 - $6,330 2017 - $4,123 2016 - $624 2015 - $238 2014 - $480 2013 - $133 2012 - $11.2 2011 - $4.80 2010 - $0.10 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $1.55 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 966405; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 9.67 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.58MB. Bitcoin's average block time for the year 2026 is 10.2 minutes. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 127.45 trillion; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 19-Sep-2026 (within 1,275 blocks). The mining difficulty is currently expected to increase 2.64% to 130.81 trillion. Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $241,315 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miners' revenue for the last 7 days is $40.97M; which translates to $0.0436 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 83,595 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 119,689 total Bitcoin nodes; with 27,039 being reachable nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 941 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $29.03 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 720,818. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 2.46 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $0.32; with the median values being 0.37 sats/VB & $0.05 respectively. There are currently 20.08M ₿ in circulation, leaving 0.92M to be mined. There are currently 4.13M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 20.57% of circulating supply. There are currently 59,332,241 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 165.20M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 10-Sep-2026 is $21,916. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2026 is $72,441. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 1,295 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 12.95 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2026 was $58,558.86 on 30-Jun-2026. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2026 was $96,929.33 on 14-Jan-2026. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2026 was $57,747.76 on 01-Jul-2026. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2026 was $97,860.60 on 14-Jan-2026. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2026 was -$10,317.60 on 05-Feb-2026. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2026 was +$7,853.29 on 06-Feb-2026. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin is down 38.81% from the ATH. However, Bitcoin is up 33.72% from the lowest point since the last ATH. Bitcoin has not reached an all-time high in 2026. It has been 339 days since the last ATH.

Terrible-Dress6595

This happens in the US all the time. Sometimes for way less. The influencer amouranth had a home invasion where they were looking for the " bitcoin wallet". All they got was bullets because the husband sent them on their way. Everywhere there is people willing to try and separate you from your money.

paidzesthumor

I'm going to make the assumption that the primary purpose of the trust is for tax purposes. >why would they have to do any software engineering? only need to make the program once, the rest is just interacting with the smart contract. Each estate would need to instantiate its own smart contract, and since the estate is deploying the smart contract, the estate is responsible for code integrity, even if using public libraries. And what happens if the smart contract needs to be re-deployed in event a flaw is found in one of the libraries? Again, falls to the estate. When you are self-custodying and deploying smart contracts with open source code, the warranty and liability falls to you (e.g. Apache 2.0) > Also the legal requirements are way way way way way more painful for traditional trusts which often take months to withdraw from even if you're already approved. It's unclear what you mean specifically by "way way way way way more painful" other than providing an unsubstantiated assertion, but in the US, common law does not currently provide a pathway for a smart contract to have legally recognized fiduciary personhood, Code cannot hold trustee duties is any legally cognizable sense. If you have no trustee, you have no trust, and if you have no trust, you have no tax shield. Also, how does a tax authority treat an on-chain smart contract that has no legal recognition? How does a smart contract perform KYC/AML? Who remedies beneficiaries in the event of loss of key control or on-chain theft of funds through no fault of their own and through what legal recourse mechanism if the is no legally recognized trust or trustee? >Do you really think the user experience of talking to a lawyer who talks to the estate manager who talks to the trustees who approves your withdrawal weeks-months later is better than the user experience of sending a small payment to a wallet with a unique message requesting your funds with NO middle man and NO wait time? *The entire point of a trust is to implement gatekeeping governance for access to the assets* held by the trust. It's a feature, not a bug. *By law,* an irrevocable trust requires discretionary distributions to be formally requested and approved by the trustee. Trustees are bound by fiduciary duty to exercise judgement and disclosure; the whole "NO middleman and NO wait time" is not compatible with the legal intention or purpose of a trust. I think what you're actually looking for is a savings account. >Not sure how banking would come into play since nobody involved is brokering deals between people or underwriting asset valuations... would like more info on that Banking isn't just about brokering deals, and also "underwriting asset valuations" doesn't even make sense. Underwriting is about assessing and accepting financial risk; asset valuation is just one part of the underwriting process. Banking in this context means accounting and recording keeping, regulatory and tax filings, safe-keeping assets (keys), allocating assets, and managing distributions.

Hour_Flounder1405

furthermore, you can't write off the loss of purchasing power as a loss (which I suppose is essentially the same thing you are describing, but in another way to explain the impact the current tax laws are). An example helps: under current tax regs, you MUST pay taxes each and every pay period, and IF you decide to do the math and prepare your w4 so that you only pay the amount of tax that would be your total tax owed over the year, but you miss that mark by even one dollar over 1,000...then you not only get taxed for what you owe at the end of the year, but also the interest AND A FINE for not withholding enough to pay your total tax owed. So that is more or less a triple whammy. The fine should be challenged in court....the legal argument is the govt should not have the right to collect taxes each pay period, only at the end of the year. a winnable case...probably not. But it would make it more public and perhaps overr time, it would become clear that the govt is not only collecting taxed each day from its citizens, but is likely also spending it as a debt interest tool, which as you would expect, also drives up the debt. More debt...more likely that interest rates will need to be raised. more inflation. noting: inflation is not a natural result of supply - demand. it is in fact a man made (federal reserve bank) manipulation of the value of money in order to create a "sense" of value of the treasuring bonds sold to investors in order to ...raise capitol to pay down the interest debt of the US. It's a vicious and obvious terrible idea. Eventually, as we are starting to become aware, it's no longer possible in any realistic scenario to pay OFF a 40+ trillion dollar debt. What lies ahead is a scheme to "service" the debt by paying the interest...and only that...because that is all the US can affford. Making matters worse, the US treasuring just bought BACK its own bonds, the 30 year. This has happened before, but it is a very bad signal that investors are no longer willing to buy US debt. Things are starting to rot...and it's not the fish. God Bless America

jxm900

This. In the US, open an account somewhere like Coinbase or Robin hood. Once the transfer is dove, you can play with it however you want. Congratulations!

RatherCynical

Not quite. The All In Sustaining Cost is around $1.1k to $1.6k. We are currently in a bull market where Central Banks realised that the US will abuse its power to suspend the liquidity of US Treasuries led to a wave of buying since 2022 (suspension of Russian assets, including US Treasuries). The market works in cycles. When NEM dips under $15, you can be fairly certain the All In Sustaining Cost and the market price is about the same. We are indeed about 5 times more expensive than 2000 gold prices though, in mining cost terms. That's because the economically viable gold that costs very little to mine has all since been extracted.

CrustyBus77

I would have guessed that the promise of $5000 stimmies would have caused BTC to rally. If that orange bastard actually goes through with it, the US economy is fucked, but BTC will boom.

RoyalShimmer888

Yeah, I’d consider it if you’re planning to hold the AAVE long term anyway. On $4,200, a 5% APR would be roughly $210/year before compounding, so it’s a decent way to earn something while holding. Just make sure the 5% rate actually applies to your US account and AAVE balance, and factor in the extra custody/platform risk of moving it from Kraken to Nexo.

Liam90

What is with the 20%+ tax rate? Are you in the US or somewhere else? LTCG in US is 0% up to $100k for households. 15% up to $550k and then capped at 20% above that. You can have a lifestyle above median household income in the US and pay 0% on it. Sorry if you aren't in the US than ignore me.

Flashy-Potatoe-Queen

Technically, the current banking system is a lot better than crypto for laundering money and controlling peoples' money... Crypto can be traced by anyone. This article is most likely funded by US bank lobbies. 

17syllables

Yeah, the Epstein part of this is the cherry on top. It isn’t just that one company with massive US debt owns the biggest stablecoin, one of the biggest conservative news platforms, and a gigantic share of the land and agribusiness in South America, where the US is increasingly involved in regime change and military operations - but that, not long before this, the founder was sending the measurements of Ukrainian girls to Epstein and promising to find him more for his stable; and that they connected via Ghislaine to so many other notables. It’s just a parade of bourgeois debauchery, from people owning billions but only declaring 80 dollars in assets for tax purposes, to the islands where business and pleasure unfold outside of legal reach. There have been a lot of takes about how Trump killed crypto, or how it was never meant to be co-opted by the institutions it was designed to replace. I have to think that it wasn’t meant for *this* in particular. I came into this for the mathematics, and thought Satoshi’s original solution to the Byzantine Generals problem was brilliant if energetically wasteful. The math here is still interesting. Quantum proofing is still interesting. But none of these vampires give a shit about technology.

Glittering_Pick_9738

PPI slightly higher than expected. Might get bloody when US markets open. Everyone is so sensitive and jumpy these days. It's just pathetic. 

bitsteiner

Interest payments do not reduce the money supply, because they are distributed and are recirculating. Increasing money supply not matter through printing or credit creation by private banks creates deposits and some of that money remains in circulation. Regarding M2 that is $70k of deposits and cash for every person in the US. Since wealth isn't equally distributed, many rich people hold large amounts of deposits and cash.

bitsteiner

It's accurate, because this is how inter bank transfers work. Although done on computers nowadays, it requires regulated and trusted institutions which have cost and generate profits. My bank charges me $25 for domestic and $45 for international wire transfer which is about average for US.

absinthiumxmr

Its also far easier to buy privacy coins like Monero in Iran than it is in the US now. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1v6amu1/iran\_has\_listed\_monero\_on\_every\_exchange\_in\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1v6amu1/iran_has_listed_monero_on_every_exchange_in_the/) For the record, BTC is not anti-fragile for sanctions avoidence. The moment the US threatens mining farms into censoring transactions coming from OFAC-sanctioned addresses is the moment everything breaks for it. With Iran and several other countries starting to use Crypto for this purpose, it is only a matter of time.

FishFart

Think for yourself. It’s the widest wealth gap in American history and the US is in 40 trillion in debt with nothing to show for it. Politicians are sayin we can’t have universal healthcare when the fucking interest payments on the DEBT would cover it! The only people above me are boomers that sit on in their dusty mansions and accumulate stupid amounts of wealth by being a “shareholder”.

kenken2k2

both side of the US political parties gang up to scam americans

snksleepy

I heard the US government lost a ton of BTC because Elon fired a few guys who held the security keys.

Brief_Lettuce_571

Sorry for the dumb question... Let me try to phrase it. We know inflation happens because of the money printing. The larger the money base the more expensive things quoted in this money get. In the end the price of goods and services try to converge to the "real" value. Inflation may also happen because of supply and demand, like if there is weak crop, or natural disaster, things get more expensive because of scarcity. In the case of money printing. The money supply grows faster than the inflation metric (like CPI in the US I think, compare it to the M2). Then someone in the economy is draining this nominal money being created. The government pays interest on the bonds. But it seems to barely outperform the inflation. Who is getting the printed money?? Is it funneling to billionaires or so?

FlyFit9206

That’s where we disagree completely. Your labor has value. It’s up to you, no one else, to make your labor more valuable. For example, IT typically (but not always) makes more than doctors in the medical field. This means that your labor is yours and only yours. You trade that labor for money and goods. (Healthcare ect) With that context, my labor, or the value of it and the everything I have done to make it more valuable is not yours. With that, pay your taxes and do the right thing. But, in a free society piety, which is what the US is, my labor is mine and I can trade it for whatever I want as long as it’s not illegal and I’m paying my taxes.

thunderpounder420

He’s Singaporean. If he has a local account, he could have liquidated bit by bit tax free and not trigger AML processes. Spend using his Singaporean CC in the US and collect tons of air miles (not that he needed them).

heinzmoleman

245 million and stayed in the US. He deserved to be caught

mjmeyer23

people already know they need an exit. that's why real estate and US stocks are where they are.

Maverick_1991

Man come on. He just wants to make money. They are better than the Trumps but its not like the Bidens are saints. Noone who becomes US president is a saint.

LateToTheParty2k21

Bitcoin is decentralized. Even if you own it all you still need a decentralized network to transact. The US government can flag coins but cannot stop the movement of coins.

opbmedia

30-40% of US equities are owned by retirement asset funds. Different figures by different sources, but Fed and nonprofits and industry all track this.

Thoric4040

Everything on the list except event tickets is heavily regulated or subsidized by our government. And I think your analysis falls apart when you realize the costs in the US are dramatically higher than similar services in other countries.

Atmacrush

US govt. Gotta pay down that $40t somehow

Temporary-Cause730

Honestly, with $140 I wouldn't diversify, would keep everything in LIT. Bet on the asset that has more potential to multiply (but also more risk, of course). I'm saying this as someone that has both coins, HYPE and LIT. I think HYPE is better, more established and with a clear path to the US market. But LIT could skyrocket if somehow HYPE suffers a setback, like volume decreasing if they need to add KYC.

EnderSword

Where I am shouldn't impact my assessment of it. And yes, I hold some and think it should be part of a balanced portfolio... but has is underperformed the rest of my portfolio this decade? Yes. I think it's niche has always been clear, it's a good protocol for a large transmission of money internationally. But we're 16-17 years in, we haven't hit any form of mass adoption, it's clear it's not an actual currency, it will forever have usability and security issues and its concept of scarcity is not translating into any sort of enhanced demand. We're probably in the best regulatory environment for it too with a lawless US administration and it still hasn't advanced.

suuperfli

each of these is a small slice of the basket (tuition \~1.5%, childcare under 1%), while categories that got cheaper or flat in nominal terms - apparel, electronics, appliances, toys, cars on a quality-adjusted basis - pull the average down. since 1983 the CPI substitutes owners' equivalent rent, a survey of what homeowners estimate their house would rent for, which tracked far below actual home price appreciation during the 2000s and post-2020 runups. And medical care is underweighted relative to reality because CPI only counts out-of-pocket consumer spending, not the employer- and government-paid premiums that make up most US health spending. Hedonic quality adjustment and substitution effects also shave the number

Delicious_Ease2595

Like US dollar

Practical_Mango7633

And not only sanctioned economies are watching, every economy is watching. With the US being as unpredictable as it is, no one can rely on the USD anymore. Everyone thought Canada was its closest ally, but look at how they are treating them now by waging a trade war against them, threatening to actually go to war against them, and suggesting making them a state of the US. It is the same with Europe, with constant threats of going to war against the EU and taking Greenland. I think every country in the world now understands that putting its full faith and trust in another country's currency and making it the world reserve currency, was a major economical and political mistake. It is not yet apparent, but I think the end of the USD as the world reserve currency has started. However, it has to be done gradually so as not to collapse the world economy, and something has to replace the USD. I think that will either be a currency made up of a basket of other currencies or Bitcoin.

nameless_pattern

While the US goes on tv literally admitting war crimes like targeting civilian infrastructure 🫩

escodelrio

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georgejetsonn

M2 can grow due to increased economic output and/or population expansion without causing inflation. Case in point: between 2009-2019, M2 expanded at 7-8%/year, yet inflation stayed consistently below 2% in US and EU. With population predicted to shrink and productivity amplified by automation and AI, there is a credible case to be made for a deflationary future, not inflationary. This is what Japan has experienced for the last 30 years

patronmtl

Time for the US to let Iran accumulate a ton of bitcoin and rug pull with their “Satoshi Wallet “ Holdings

crooks5001

Ahh whoops, that's genuinely my bad. I only saw the coins value from Kraken from 10am until now. Still not as wild as the president of the United States hyping then rug pulling US Citizens

QuestionablyWeak

sanctions evasion through crypto was always the endgame for a lot of these regimes, the surprising part is how open theyre being about it now everyone fixates on the price action but the actual utility story is playing out in real time and nobody wants to look at it because it makes the regulators uncomfortable the stablecoin angle is interesting too, because if a state actor is using them to move value across borders then the whole "it's just a dollar wrapper" argument starts looking pretty shaky from a policy standpoint wonder how long before the US starts leaning on the issuers to freeze certain addresses and we get to watch that tug of war play out in public

Szangalar

FBI, NSA and other entities you mentioned and not are centralized, so effectively it will be easier for them to adapt and "flip the switch". Microsoft, Google Cloud and Coudflare are aiming at 2029 to go to PQC (at least in the critical areas), with others like US administration and NIST up to 2035. My question is: how will Bitcoin do this? What about lost BTCs in old wallets, which won't change to new signature schemes? We "just burn them" (as if in "it's your keys, but not your BTC"?). Putting any changes to the core protocol in Bitcoin have proven not easy, which is one of it's strenghts, but also makes it less adaptive. I hope to live and see how it is dealt with, but hoping on "Bitcoin will also adapt" without any broad consensus on how and when to do it seems a bit delusional.

apinananas

Okay great way to cause hyperinflation of usd and opportunity to buy bitcoin in discount for a while. This will just wreck US economy.

ov3rw4tch_

For you no. If you can get a job and try to increase your money. You’re better off having your parents open a Fidelity account for you and putting your extra money into ETFs. look into VT (total world stock), VTI (total US stock), VXUS (international), and VOO (S&P 500). If you want the easiest setup just got VT for full exposure. Buy fractional shares on Fidelity.

Glittering_Pick_9738

As the tradition dictates the opening of US markets is celebrated with mandatory dump.  Hopefully ETFs will help when they start trading later on. 

barrycl

Philanthropy takes many forms, from an oboe scholarship to sending insecticide treated bednets to Malawi. Most people in most countries don't think these things are actually worth spending our own money on (US's foreign aid budget is about ~1%, for reference, our oboe budget is much smaller), and don't want taxes to pay for these things. So, what does one do if you want these things to occur?

nipapoo

I was able to spend in Bangkok. Also steak and shake in the US. Always looking at BTC map but usually can't find anything

Ill-Assist-5246

What about them? Bitcoin is YOUR money and YOU can do what you want with it! If you want to buy a sports car, you buy it. If you want to buy food, they you buy it. If you owe taxes, then you pay them. There is a misconception here (I am not sure why). Pretend the ONLY money you had was Gold. If you wanted to buy something with Gold, you would have to either pay in Gold or "covert" your Gold into something that the seller would accept. If you owed the government taxes, then you would have to either pay that government in Gold or "convert" your Gold into something that government would accept. As is typical of the world (and indeed confirmed by history), the "valuable" commodity becomes something that sellers accept as payment. If you go to Canada or Mexico or Turkey or Central America, they are all more than happy to accept the $US to pay for things. Why? Because the $US is (currently) considered "valuable". As the US government continues to debase our currency it is becoming "less valuable" (as is seen by countries of the world willing to hold less and less $US and US Treasuries). There are plenty of sellers in the world who currently accept payment in Bitcoin (each year, more and more sellers). Eventually, the base medium of exchange will default to Bitcoin (or a 2nd tier layer with Bitcion as the backbone). It's inevitable - "Better Money" will replace "Flawed Fiat".

Relai_Alex

Totally get the fear. You're good if you use a reputable broker and a legitimate cold wallet. Cold wallets: Passport from Foundation Devices and bitbox Brokers: Relai in Europe, Strike in US

Steel-Tempered

Buy it on a legit exchange like Coinbase (US) or Kraken (anywhere else), and then after the buy transaction is confirmed and finalized by both Coinbase and your personal bank, transfer the BTC it to a hardware wallet (not Cold Card) and hold it. And of course, use strong unique passwords for everything, 2-factor, protect your wallet seed phrase OFFLINE, and just HOLD. Nothing is taxable until you sell, so there's nothing to report to the IRS or whatever. Also, if you're not planning anymore buys or sells, download your exchange transaction history, save it for your future tax cost basis calculations, and then close your Coinbase/Kraken account. You can always open a new account in the future if you want to transfer anything back to cash it out, but you'll want to hold it for a few years and let it gain value (hopefully).

Level-Commission-933

those tuition numbers are completely insane, 2500% is not even inflation at that point it is just a different system entirely my cousin in US pays more for childcare than his rent which should not be possible in a functioning economy. the official number feels like a joke when you look at what people actually spend money on i track my own expenses every month and my personal inflation is way higher than whatever they announce, rent and food alone eat like 60% of my income now maybe the interest rate should be based on what people actually pay not some basket of goods that nobody buys in real life

Relai_Alex

Welcome, make sure to use a reputable place to buy your bitcoin and ignore shitcoins. Swan or River in US, Relai in Europe but there are other options too tht are decent

DoctorNurse89

[if thats the US](https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/brothers-plead-guilty-8-million-armed-cryptocurrency-kidnapping-case) [or in France and the EU](https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/gun-wielding-thieves-hold-family-make-off-with-usd-800000-in-crypto/) [or in san Fran](https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/sf-cryptocurrency-robbery-21203804.php)

Alarmed_Tax_7310

Not in Singapore. Everything happened in the US.. He just happens to be a Singapore Citizenship.

No-Anybody2826

For more people to believe in BTC, they have to believe less in the status quo, which is mainly US Dollars and Fiat overall. Unfortunately devaluation and inflation isn’t visible from one day to the next, but slowly the trust erodes away

MindAccomplished3879

At today's daily exchange rate. Actually, the exchange is a clean float exchange, so it fluctuates by the minute [Mexican pesos to US dollars exchange rate today](https://wise.com/us/currency-converter/mxn-to-usd-rate?amount=30000000)

gravi-tea

The article says the suspect offered an accomplice US$118,000. I'm assuming they thought there was much more than that. Seems it is not confirmed there was any money at all though.

liquid_at

binance is trapping you with laws that the US forces them to comply with, if they want to operate in the us? fascinating... did not know binance could write laws in the united states'. til.... /s