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The AI power needs bet has been going on for a while now. Things like the IPPs (VST/CEG/TLN) started taking off in early 2024. BE is up 538% in a year. There's also things like the turbine names (GEV) or even the oil royalty names that are plopping data centers on the land (TPL is up about 78% YTD, https://www.costar.com/article/345870916/former-google-ceo-teams-up-with-one-of-texas-largest-landowners-to-build-data-centers.) Could this bet continue to do well? Sure, but it's not some sort of little known bet - the easy money has been made already.
My big, big winner so far (I'm 19.2% up in a market that's like 2.5% down YTD) is $NBIS. I'm currently out because too much uncertainty in the markets, but I'm looking to get back in at around $104. Might go way lower, but $104 is safe after the recent $2bn investment from Nvidia. I don't value it all that highly tbh, for various reasons. $2bn is like 7% of NBIS' market cap, it doesn't warrant a 15% uptick, and there's also the fact that NVDA is basically 'investing' $2bn which NBIS will use to buy NVIDIA chips, for almost the entire amount. Circular economy is a bad sign generally. All that being said, the expected EOY value of NBIS is probably in the $140 range, it's a solid bet even at the current $113 tbh. Really, really solid. Next, we've got MPC and VLO. They're currently riding really high due to the Iran war, but that won't last forever. But that aside, they're stil worth **a lot** for their intrinsic value as exceptionally well managed companies with a long history, as well as their gradually increasing profitability from the growing US-Venezuela exploitation. I'm buying back in at $215, both of them. And speaking of US-VE exploitation, there's big talks going on (google march 4 meeting in Caracas) between a consortium of US corps and the VE gvmt, fostered by the US gvmt. I cross-referenced the corps which attended the 04/03 meeting, cross-referenced them with the leadership's relationship to the Trump admin, and came up with ACM > GEV > CENX > BTU, in that order. Looking to jump into: ACM at $87, GEV at $790, CENX at $47 and BTU at $31.5 , but I strongly advice you do additional research on all of them, but especially BTU, it's a bit of a shady company, even though the CEO has deep, deep ties to Trump.
Up 22.24% Mainly Micron followed by AI infrastructure bottleneck plays like, optics and energy delivery companies like GEV. Looking at VRT now. Late to the party but still early.
GEV, AGX and VRT short puts have done well for me
Yea. I been buying power behind the AI like GEV and BE. Im guessing those need to crash 10-20% before this sub starts mentioning those lol.
Investing in individual stocks is fine, if they are good compounding companies. You need to do some research. It’s history, competition, recent news, look up its CAGR, Beta, PE and other metrics. But especially lately, lots and lots of companies outperform the SP500, and will continue to do so. My biggest returns past 6 months are STRL, GEV, TSM. But mostly my investments are VEA VWO VUG
the thing that is bottlenecking the progress for the chipmakers is lack of electrical infrastructure for a terawatt economy (we're at 0.5 TW average use now, expected to double in five years or less) So, the safe and great play (it is still a great buy) is GEV
General Electric Vernova GEV for the electrical parts to make AI energy grid connected GEV is a 'new' company, split from GE last year like selling pick axes to miners in 1849
Today's purchases: ITA, VRT, and a little bit of COHR, CEG, GEV, ETN, TER My major positions are MU (80%) then AI buildout choke points followed by energy company's that are well positioned to supply it all. Now going into ITA after white house telling the weapons department they're going to ramp up production, also watching KRMN and HWM.
On the same day, March 23rd, MU, LRCX, AMAT, and GEV are being added to the S&P 100.
What about GEV? Sold some and did pretty good
NVDA, TSM, GOOG, GEV AI will eat the world MORE than software has over time. The amount of compute and energy needed to support that compute will be massive. FWIW there are many stocks that could be listed here. Gimme some upvotes and I’ll drop alpha 🤣
some stocks are in the red, some sold in the green and buying the dip If it has obvious potential and was a long term position, I hold. (FKING VRT, CEG, NEE) If I was able to sell at the top of the range and buy again low, I do (NEM, GEV) War stocks I am going long term because the use of inventory and rise in oil prices will reflect on the 10q and I will be holding good value (XOM, LMT, RTX, HII) If it was garbage for a quick buck, I'd sell, but I don't buy garbage anymore.
Sweet! I scooped up some more GEV this morning
These stocks have already ran, but I don’t see how the market has priced in 5-10 years of growth for them already. Room to run. Companies making natural gas combustion turbines. The issues with our electric grid at peak winter loads will only get worse as demand grows for data center electricity. These can bring 100 mW of power onto the grid in less than an hour. Lead times over 5 years in many cases to get one delivered. GEV, AGX, CAT, RYCEY, SIEGY
GEV is down, I guess they're tech now
My take: keep position sizes sane after big runs, especially in names like GEV. Staples can work, but leadership can flip fast with rates and macro. Tech is mixed now — some names are fair, some still pricey. A balanced setup is safer than going all-in one direction.
I hear little on GEV … anyone else see potential?
GEV is not a pure Nuclear energy player; it’s a mother of all energy player. I have it in my portfolio. As far as Nuclear Energy stocks, I like bwxt, ura, nlr and oklo (pre revenue)
All those pre revenue/0 track record startups will get eaten alive by GEV & RYCEY.
My thoughts on this: 1. Whether GEV keeps running likely depends more on liquidity and rate expectations than narrative alone. 2. Staples usually outperform when growth slows, so durability hinges on macro momentum. 3. Volatility tends to rise when policy and inflation uncertainty increase. 4. Tech valuations are less extreme than peak levels, but still sensitive to rates and earnings durability.
All AI connected assets are under pressure. Check GEV, CAT, VRT, TSM, MU. Not just NVDA.
ETN is better than GEV right now, but it's also wildly up. My CB for BWXT is also pretty high but I'm not that concerned. If we saw a massive pullback I'd buy more with zero sleep lost. No matter how things move forward, more power is essential for everything.
You’re asking the right way — there aren’t clean yes/no answers here. Stuff like GEV ripping usually comes down to positioning and narrative more than fundamentals in the short term, so it can keep going longer than people expect… until it doesn’t. Staples tend to cool off when risk appetite comes back, volatility usually clusters around macro uncertainty, and “overvalued tech” depends heavily on earnings actually showing up. Personally, I try to focus less on predicting the next move and more on whether I’d be comfortable holding the position if I’m early or wrong.
I was actually looking at maybe trimming a few shares and going for an EFT heard good things about VT but I'll look into ITA and PPA. I originally held some GEV but sadly dumped it too early, that's why i'm being extra cautious this time.
Good trade. Those GE ones have been nice over the year $GEV $GE have been nice trades. Do what makes you feel comfortable OP. If you sell off, you can buy when it consolidates a bit. Another option. Maybe not a preferred one on Reddit, You could buy into an ETF that has a market weight in GE like $ITA and $PPA. I've been in $ITA like a long swing trade for about 10 months.
I’ll speak to #1 since I’ve followed this one closely. On **GE Vernova (GEV):** I’ve listened to all their quarterly earnings calls since the spin. The core thesis is pretty straightforward: as long as global power demand keeps accelerating, especially from AI/data centers and electrification, they’re structurally positioned well. A few key points: * Their **Gas Power segment** (natural gas turbines + services) is effectively sold out for several years (management has indicated backlog stretching close to 2030). That segment still represents a large portion of revenue and cash flow. * They’re one of very few global manufacturers capable of producing large-scale, high-efficiency gas turbines at scale. * The AI/data center buildout is creating incremental baseload demand, not just renewable demand. Gas turbines are currently the fastest scalable solution for reliable dispatchable power. * Also Not sure if you heard SOTU yesterday, but President Trump wants Tech Companies to bring their own power for the Data Centers without connecting into the Grids like ERCOT and PJM. So if all the Big Tech companies want their own power, GEV will be prime contender for it. That said, the stock has already priced in a lot of this optimism. The real questions going forward are: * Can they execute without supply chain bottlenecks? * Do margins expand as backlog converts to revenue? * Does order growth stay strong beyond the current cycle? On the broader power theme, it’s not just GEV. You also have: * **Constellation Energy (CEG):** major nuclear fleet, positioned for 24/7 clean baseload power. Nuclear is increasingly being reconsidered as AI power demand rises. They are reactivating their other defunct Nuclear plants since they know the energy demand is much more than supply. * **Bloom Energy (BE):** solid oxide fuel cells converting natural gas/hydrogen to power for distributed use cases. If you want to simplify it, just look at the Holding Companies of \- $GRID \- $ELFY \- $VOLT \- $AIPO \- $ZAP \- $TPZ \- $POWR \- $NLR Personally, I have meaningful allocation to a mix of GEV, CEG, and BE, but I treat it as a structural power demand thesis, not a short-term trade.
Nice question set. My bias: - GEV: momentum can continue, but position sizing matters after big runs. - Staples: not done, but leadership usually rotates when rates/growth expectations shift. - Volatility: likely regime-dependent (macro prints + policy headlines), so higher baseline than ultra-calm periods. - Tech valuation: less stretched than peak froth, but still wide dispersion. Quality plus cash-flow durability matters more than sector label now. A barbell (quality growth + defensives + some dry powder) makes sense if you’re unsure on regime.
Holding steady TSLA & GEV, robots and electricity
GEV needs to do a stock split. $900 is too much for the poors
you want load up on things benefiting from positive tailwind from capex. All the money to be made are in Semis and buildout adjacent stocks COHR,VRT,GEV,CAT,NXT etc etc. Mag7 overspending on capex is a good reason to diversify away. I personally dont like catching knives to gamble if a narrative is real or false but prefer to ride tailwinds
Look at GEV and other companies providing power. Up 300-500% in a short time
On-site power approval for hyperscalers is a game-changer - bypassing PJM queues unlocks AI builds faster than grid upgrades. Utilities like EXC/DUK priced in datacenter load growth, but self-gen shifts that revenue to gas turbines (GEV) and potential SMRs. Pre-trade check: Scan hyperscaler capex filings vs utility rate base plans before sizing - avoids fading policy pivots. Details thin until March meeting though.
CAT GE GEV no reason to own anything else
GEV go brrr I guess, but I’ve been saying this for like 3 years now
How can GEV just keep going higher. Who’s buying
That’s because they don’t do anything. The market has already chosen its winner for the first phase of SMR deployments. GEV.
I guess GEV calls since that thing seems to just be on a one way ticket to the moon.
GEV PE 58. Thing just goes higher
I think if anything that, as we’ve seen with some other companies (GNRC comes to mind, you can find a great write up on that by Hunterbrook), gas may be the basket that these companies dump all their eggs in because it has such lucrative opportunities ahead- in my mind, this other stuff is really just to pay lip service to diversification, whereas in reality I doubt anyone in GEV even cares about the non gas sectors in any serious capacity I think the most challenging part is really just realizing that a lot of this requires a certain leap of faith, so to speak. A lot of things don’t necessarily have great causality just due to the sheer complexity of the market, and in particular I’m not too used to giving concrete predictions like “here is xyz’s price at abc moment”, it just feels very weird because my mentors would’ve ruthlessly tore into me for even daring to try and give something resembling a point estimate haha
Does GEV's recent performance look like QCOM's performance in late 1999 to anyone? It was price increase on steroids (QCOM, that is), followed by a massive (\~40% within a month) crash in Jan 2000.
Nice writeup for interview prep honestly. One thing I'd push on if I were an interviewer though is the service revenue mix in Gas Power. That's really the economic engine of the whole company, it's recurring, high margin, and tied to an installed base that isn't going anywhere. The Wind segment gets all the headlines but the margins there have been rough and the offshore execution risk is real. I think the interesting question with GEV is whether the Electrification segment can become a second "Gas Power style" earnings compounder or if it stays project-lumpy for a while. What's been the hardest part of learning stock analysis coming from an econometrics background? Like what do you feel is missing from the quant side that you wish you had better tools for?
In 6 months the only stocks that will go up are NVDA, VRT, NBIS, TSM, GEV and Google. Everything else will be obsolete and worthless
Stay away from Hood. Move it to SNDK & GEV
MU, TSM, GEV, LRCX. Bought on Liberation day last April.
I mean, follow the money. Money seems to be coming and going quick in MSFT. Where’s that money heading? Seems like the money trail leads to NVDA, VRT, LITE, MU, SNDK, GEV, and even CAT and DE.
UUUU, GE, GEV, HUBB, ETN. Basically any firm that either does the infrastructure or power supplies to the actual buildouts of the data center boom which will be in play for the next ten years. I have about 10 companies lined up within that field which I’ve been swing trading on technicals. Was up 80% last year overall, and up 18.5% so far ytd.
you have a gambling addiction seek therapy or a book, maybe God or something. Just stop gambling on equity options and just put it all into GEV and don't look at it for a year
Whatever is hype at the moment. BE, GEV, NBIS, SNDK
Why nobody tell me about GEV. Shit is up 125% in a year and 26% ytd.
thank you for the feedback! yeah as you can tell im still getting used to the idea that my research has to actually yield usable execution steps haha i was honestly a little disappointed coming into this practice because i had been eyeing the stock for a while as a potential diversifier with some tech exposure still, but as you said i think upside requires too many specific things to fall into place in the right sequence at current valuation, while it just takes a bad day of market volatility to completely mess up GEV’s day
Great write up Broadly speaking, this would pass at an econometrics focused valuation exercise. The real question then becomes what the net value add would be of this analysis. Gene Munster likes to call that “Pressure Points” and although it’s not a perfect term, it tends to dictate medium term stock performance. In the case of GEV, the pressure point is fundamentally that the market believes GEV will convert its backlog into revenue within a few years. The gross margin story screams to me that even though that backlog will grow and will convert into revenue, the profits will remain limited because ANY delays mean lower margins.
GEV is the real SMR play through its partnership with Hitachi
One day CRSP will come through, hopefully AI can help accelerate their research. But I’m with you about Healthcare, such a boring slow growth sector. I’d probably do a 60%GEV/30%GE/10% GEHV split or something like that. Definitely grabbing GE before GEHC though!
In a similar vein to your energy plays, what do you think of GEV? They benefitted massively from the datacenter buildout, so they are probably dependent on it, although the cashflow looks strong for now.
How about GEHC though?? I have GEV and wondering if I should just hold all of them
GE GEV and CAT never stop
GEV aka GE Vernova. It is the most successful position in my portfolio.
Energy been pumping, look at GEV
I’ve got MU, about to buy GEV
GEV has been my go to this yr. I’ve made quite a bit play csp with GEV.
Money leaving Mag 7 for AI infrastructure building. My latest buys were CAT, APLD, AMAT. See also energy like GEV, NLR. Already loaded with LRCX, MU, SNDK.
GEV is great idea, I think overbought right now, Sold off my ge verenova, it’s still running, would love to reenter around 6-700 per share
I will never forgive myself for selling GEV.
$Q and $GEV are very similar with their spinoff & demand factors.
"Why Everything Is Selling Off?!" It isn't. Everything that has been popular on Reddit because it's worked is selling off. This sub used to talk about a wide variety of names, now it talks about maybe a dozen or two at most and that playbook isn't working. Rather than look for what is, people keep endlessly buying the same playbook. "AI Stocks are Also Selling Off?!" They are? SOXX +12% YTD, SPY -0.3%, MAGS -5.5% YTD. All the power/"ai adjacent" industrials are ramping. GEV, CAT, etc.
If you want nuclear go with established utilities that are currently producing or working on plats, VST and CEG are the two largest nuclear producers in the US and will be running 3 mile island and producing for MSFT and META. GEV is another one. They make the gas turbines that produce the actual power.
Buy contra cyclical stocks that will capitalize on a bunch of laid off middle managers starting a website or corner store with Shopify. That said, much of it is owned by founder so if he rubs you the wrong way or the management team does…GEV
Imo- VRT and GEV for power and cooling. MU for memory. SCMI, server rack infrastructure. Any of the big amzn, googl, msft for cloud capacity and dell for data capacity. I've not bought into these but amd, nvda, avgo, tsm will also be always in demand, not sure about bottlenecks, but definitely high demand. At least that's what I'm betting on. Only bought into the first four, my time horizon isn't long enough for the other big companies. I reckon they have had their ai run and will slow down.
Yes. I have STRL, GEV and CEG.
For Energy: remove FSLV, increase GEV and add CEG
Hello, I'd like to get some opinions on these stocks; which are the winners between: $ETN vs. $GEV $HOOD vs. $SOFI
Sure. But when Industrials and Data Center Infrastructure darlings which are up 300% from 2024 suddenly lose their AI CapEx boom, what happens to their stocks trading at 70x earnings? GEV, FIX, CAT, Vertiv. What happens when the AI CapEx boom turns into a bust? Microsoft and Meta and Google and Amazon won’t react to a stock collapse with even more CapEx.
Semicap, photonics, optics, memory, semis all mooning. South Korea ETF (nearly half of which is SK Hynix and Samsung) +28% YTD. Massive amounts of money is being spent on AI but this sub remains oddly loyal to mega cap tech (the spenders) rather than focusing on where they're spending. "we saw the end of the Silver/Gold craziness etc." The GDX is still up 23% YTD vs the SPY +1.3% and MAGS -3.3% COPP +20% YTD, SETM +21% YTD, LITP +6% ytd, URNM +19% ytd Names like GEV +21% ytd. Even the XLE is +20% YTD.
very good company, huge beneficiary of AI buildout. GEV is another one that everyone should own
"Investors rotating into hardware / AI infrastructure (Siemens Energy +5%)" This has been a better story than a fair amount of tech for 2-3 years now. "Where the money has been spent" has broadly been a better theme than "who is spending it." IMO, this started to ramp up again this year. MSFT -12%, GEV +16%/Siemens Energy +31% YTD after playing catch-up to GEV in the last year or so. "“Unforgiving software tape,” as JPM put it" Why will that change, really? You're going to get bounces but it wouldn't surprise me if AI starts to become like Amazon was for so many years for industries like drug stores, where every time Amazon announced anything healthcare related it would impact CVS/WBA. Eventually some names will differentiate themselves (NET caught up in the software selling in recent weeks, +15% this morning on earnings last night), but some won't. "AI-disruption fears hitting European tech" Buy real assets. What is "ai-adjacent" that can't be easily disrupted by it? There are going to be people with tech-heavy portfolios that have worked for ages and might not work as well going forward. Tech discussion on here used to be a much wider variety of names, now it's just largely Mag 7 (MAGS -2.7% YTD.)
CAT and GEV are manipulated as fuk
Nuclear stocks like $GEV and $OKLO will continue to pump 🚀
The market is rotating out of tech, and gold to industrials, energy, and transportation, financials. So the high beta momentum trades like NBIS, IREN, MAG7, that yolo full port degen thinking is over. Think, GEV, BRKB, CSX, RIO (cherry ice cream smile, I suppose it’s very nice).
Coreweave, if they can pull off their debt fueled expansion will be a beast. NBIS, NVDA, LRCX, MU, GEV, MSFT
Seeking an exposure to the US grid through a solid company with strong fundamentals, I've picked GEV. Expensive, yes but the US electrical infrastructure requires complete turnaround upgrade and expansion to keep up capacity for growing power demand. GEV was sort of IBM. Has it all, but needed major restructure and restart. From getting rid of dead weight to changing company mentality. Got a first hand experience with its machinery. God tier quality. Besides, they have some renewables branches if memory serves. As for Chinese vendors, Huawei, SunGrow and Trina Im most familiar with. Huawei offers best integrated solutions. Every year a new upgrade. SunGrow provides Switzerland level quality and manufactures everything from PV panels to transformers. Trina. Welp, Trina is just like Ford. Bear in mind, renewable stocks boomed after Covid just like SaaS, AI and semi companies did, so Im not entirely sure if they go parabolic again. Also, high competition and low level entry barrier on Chinese market.
bought an upside call on $GEV Wednesday afternoon because I knew the sell off was too much. Sold it Friday morning just after open for 40 % profit.
Park the money in something safe for a week or two until we see a at least two days of uptick on the usual Reddit suggestions. GOOGL, RTX, or GEV are decent holds if you place lower-band limit orders
Buying more VRT (Vertiv): GEV, MPWR and POWL - all in the power biz, positive earnings and positive outlook. VRT earnings 10% off the highs, earnings on Feb 11.