TQQQ

DietFoods

If I bought qqq today it would take 10% to get back to ATH. Also i mostly buy and sell TQQQ and SOXL. The taxes I have to pay are drastically less than how much Id be down if I sat through the pullback. I saved myself a good 50k by selling, which means I'll make considerably more this year when we head back up.

No-Improvement3164

Where’s that TQQQ and chill guy

somewhere_cool

Jokes on them I have TQQQ puts

PositiveEdge4361

The normies in the TQQQ sub are panicking

teamyg

Bought some TQQQ at 41.6, support line reached; a bounce is ahead.

Competitive_Ride

I am long TQQQ and it’s not working

No_Cod972

TQQQ holders starting to panic

Idkmanitcouldwork

TQQQ

Oh_he_steal

Yes. And people look at a long-term chart of TQQQ and think "well, isn't this obviously the best investment?" They have no idea about anchoring bias. Yes, if you buy and hold TQQQ during a prolonged tech bull market, you will do very well. But how do you know that's going to happen? Or even if you timed the entry correctly? Fun fact: If you bought TQQQ at basically any point from March 21-April 22 and held this entire time, you're STILL underperforming QQQ 5 years later.

Accent_Your_Comment

I'm late to this thread but if you don't mind answering anyways: it seems like almost any long duration I put in the backtest link you sent (even from 2021 to today for example), I still get really good returns. Obviously it can be lower than putting in QQQ in the 2021-2026 example I gave, but it still gave a 47% cumulative return (vs 67% in QQQ). I'm not cherry picking, I'm just looking for reasons why this is so unrecommended in this thread. So why wouldn't it be a good idea to long TQQQ? Is it because of interest rates during when it goes sideways (is that in the backtest you gave)? Is it because if I'm not patient enough I'll do worse than QQQ? I'm genuinely curious and also only planning to invest what I'm willing to lose.

thetalentedmrbowser

TQQQ leaps is a terrible idea. There’s a cost to carry and the 3x leverage resets every day. It’s designed for a short term hold. If you’re that bullish then simple QQQ is a better way to go. This post is retarded anyway because we’re all fucked.

OSRSkarma

Okay first off, i sold you a bunch of those. Enjoy bagholding them LMAOOOOO Second, actually show the TQQQ calls

Happy-Champion1661

buying the dip now with calls on TQQQ is more regarded than buying puts ngl

Imaginary_Froyo_6291

The fusion/AI power combo is wild to think about, like we're literally watching sci-fi become reality in real time. Your TQQQ play is bold but I get it - if this tech convergence hits like you're saying, there gonna be some serious upside Been eyeing some similar positions myself, the amount of capital flowing into innovation right now is insane

ai-moderator

#TLDR --- **Ticker:** TQQQ **Direction:** Up / Parabolic 🚀 **Prognosis:** 100% All-in on Jan '27 Long Calls **Vibe:** Weaponized tech hopium and "infinite productivity" **Bear Status:** Left behind in cash with their spreadsheets while retail rides a steel fortress to the moon

Reynhart

Hmm... you might consider PSQ instead, also not meant for super long term holding, but you won't get wrecked nearly as quickly as with TQQQ. To be clear, even with PSQ, long term holding will still wreck you via volatility decay, just a little more slowly :)

CarRamRob

Wrong, TQQQ can lose up to 100% in a bear market and not recover ever. Every leveraged ETF can go to zero, and given enough time and volatility, they all will even when the market will eventually go up. It’s not just QQQ which can see large drawdowns and eventually recover. Go check out what 3x ETFs for oil prices look like…notice how most of them are all made since 2020? It’s because every single one of them wiped out completely due to the Covid volatility. Same with almost every other 3x ETF.

CarRamRob

Most high leveraged ETFs have to get reset every few years since they go to zero so often. Goes to show how well QQQ has done that TQQQ is one that has survived to not do that, but it’s still just a matter of time before it hits a downturn and then trades sideways for 3 years and wipes out all value.

CraneEternal

You don’t understand how to succeed in leveraged ETFs. You only invest in them for a day or a week strongly knowing the prices will rise before selling off. If TQQQ drops 10%, it would need about 11.1% to get back to its original value If the index drops 10%, TQQQ drops about 30%. And to recover from a 30% loss, it needs about 42.9% gain, not 30%. You need to understand that losses are magnified daily and many days of losses creates an insurmountable recovery. Leverage funds are not investments at all so don’t fall into the trap.

micha_allemagne

30% in a 3x leveraged ETF for 30 years is different than what most people mean by "high risk tolerance".. TQQQ has volatility decay that can absolutely wreck you in longer downturns - look at what happened from late 2021 through 2022, it lost like 80% and took forever to recover. Here's a breakdown of your 70/30 idea: [https://www.insightfol.io/en/portfolios/report/1b0dbf23e7/](https://www.insightfol.io/en/portfolios/report/1b0dbf23e7/) look at the sector concentration specifically (tech) and i didn't even mention the missing geographical diversification yet...

SeekCapital2020

I also shorted the QQQ through TQQQ https://preview.redd.it/op710rma2arg1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=455c77e174d110f5a211562ca244cb5526d765a0 Let’s see how that turns out. EXPIRY: 4/2/26

Emotional-Breath-838

$tqqq for the longterm goes against the purpose of $tqqq which is a heavily leveraged play. since youre not investing, youre gambling, you have to ask yourself whether the odds are better at the $TQQQ table or at the blackjack table. if you lose your bet at blackjack, you go home and youre back at work on Monday when $TQQQ crashes, how long will it stay down? a month? a year? two+ years? and how long will it take to get back the lost money? now imagine that you are ready to retire but you never quite got the money back and then it tanks again. damned shame

Peace_and_Rhythm

70/30 is extremely aggressive for a 30-year hold. TQQQ can lose up to 85% in a bear market. Keep it at 90/10 and taper it over time. Good luck.

MakingMoneyIsMe

You were downvoted but weren't told why. TQQQ isn't meant to hold long term.

Oh_he_steal

You think you have a high risk tolerance now. What happens in 5 years when we get a correction and your TQQQ falls by 75%? Will you have a high risk tolerance then?

DoctorTrade

Hi. I think this is an aggressive, growth-maximizing strategy that aligns with your high risk tolerance— but it comes with real caveats that could bite hard over 30 years. You’re not wrong to chase maximum upside, and the glide path you described (starting heavy on TQQQ and dialing it down over time, e.g., toward 85/15 by year 15) is actually one of the smarter parts of the plan. It mimics a leveraged version of a target-date glide path: front-load the rocket fuel while you’re young and can recover from crashes, then de-risk as you age. Goodluck!

vagabonds_cockring

If I had just DCA'd into TQQQ since I started working I would be a millionaire. But at least I have all these fun stories about trading

Fhyzikz

Patiently waiting to fullport TQQQ when the technicals support it and close my acct for 10 years

itzcoldoutside

This is probably the wildest trade I've seen. I think you would need TQQQ to be above $77 to breakeven with little to no down days. I hope this prints for you somehow.

Big_Generator

TQQQ was selling at $57+ just two months ago. You'll be fine.

bladzalot

LEAPs, yes, I agree… Dailies and weeklies I have crushed it using TSLL, SQQQ, TQQQ, BITX, ETHU, and even METU

ToastandSpaceJam

I’ve seen some stupid shit, this takes the cake. Leaps on TQQQ…

Icy-Sheepherder-7595

I guess the reason I am too stubborn to give up and just do the ETF thing is just that I want to do better than that. Yea I know that's naive but I have always had this feeling inside me that I could be doing more. Buying VOO would've been great in 2022 but I look at what I missed out on and say that's not worth it. I'd rather buy something like Microsoft or Google on some severe panic selloff than buy index funds at the top. But then I look at my account and it's down. I just don't know what the right move is. I'm not trying to gamble like I know not to buy OTC garbage and really only stick to large cap established names. That's what carries the indexes so why doesn't it work out for me? I guess that's why there's professionals for this stuff. I have no choice but to hold I guess. I took some slight losses so I can buy more MSFT but I'm not feeling good. I really hope one day I get to look back on this and laugh because I was patient and the money finally grew but that seems more and more like a delusional daydream than reality with stuff like this war continuing to happen. I wish I learned about this stuff earlier. I spent my entire college years and early adulthood thinking investing was for Wall Street finance types only, not realizing I was missing out on easy gains. I still think about how I didn't buy TQQQ at the bottom in 2022 when I thought I should buy stupidly also thought it would go lower, I didn't know anything at the time but I did understand that negative years for the S&P were rare. Had I just acted on that instinct 4 years ago now I would be living a much better and different life. One that is stress free and I would actually feel good about myself for once. The fact have never made money investing even though I've been doing it for years makes me feel like such an inadequate piece of garbage honestly. Like I'm some idiot who just doesn't get what everyone else does.

Uniball38

Lots of folks clowning this and it’s definitely dumb to spend $120k on TQQQ LEAPs when you can achieve the same exposure with much better liquidity on QQQ LEAPs. But you have time on this so idt it’s totally stupid

Dangerous-Leader-779

No...it literally does not. "Fine" in the sense you can literally buy and sell an option? Sure... But sounds like you also should read up on why it doesn't make sense. Options pricing formula accounts for the leverage volatility. You are gaining nothing by trading TQQQ options instead of QQQ; the underlying is leveraged, the options account for that. What you do lose is the liquidity offered on QQQ options, or the tax advantage of NDX. There is no benefit of options on TQQQ.

PositiveEdge4361

Gold you fat fuck how do you behave like TQQQ only when dumping go up you lardarse

omegahustle

so you bought when the TQQQ was almost at the top and thought it was the bottom? this is even more regarded

Asleep_Emphasis69

pre workout is gods gift to earth 🌏 who gives a shit about markets just all in TQQQ pussy

WhyUPoor

I bought it ATM when TQQQ was higher

nevergofullretardman

Reported for posting fake shit. No one's riturded enough to buy long options on TQQQ

timmyd79

“Covid, tariffs, Iran war, whatever the headline is. Same fear, different day, everyone’s got a crystal ball calling the next bottom or the next 30% drop.” That can be construed as ignore the news, I.e. headline. Look I get it. But I have sold prior to COVID. Nobody had fear back then except me and a few folks with scientific minds understanding what R factor means for a virus. Then the fear occurred and I bought into the dip. So I get buying into high fear dips too. I’m 47. So I did buy a house and have 2. Your post history shows you like to swing trade. I just find it interesting that now you proclaim some general investment advice when your TQQQ history sort of shows off the rails investing. Good luck to you and your decisions. I also will buy into max fear situations. I just don’t agree with your arguments of calling any headline “fear”. Did you make money in 22? Or did you ignore that drawdown?

pmotiveforce

Everything coming up Milhouse today. Sold TQQQ near 2% up, bought SPY puts about 1.9% up, and those puts up almost 200% in last hour.

Retired-Yam8988

Utter bullshit. No talks have been held according to Iran. Another TACO trade to follow. I got assigned TQQQ last Friday and have calls to sell them by Friday. Perfect taco trade again.

Pale-Aspect-6221

You’re too late atp. Buy TQQQ if you must

mayorolivia

Just put it in QQQ or buy TQQQ you regard

Extension-Remote1243

Damn I put 15k into the TQQQ on friday I hope it was already in my portfolio because it’s 8% PRE MARKET LMAOOOO

PaperHandsTheDip

Sorry to hear :( . I've been largely cash gang (\~90%) since mid feb. I'm so fucking tempted to start buying back soon... thinking of averaging into TQQQ soon.

Competitive_Ride

Gold and TQQQ is my whole portfolio

PositiveEdge4361

Gold you fucking donkey you’re supposed to be a hedge not TQQQ

PaperHandsTheDip

Absolutely no way. TQQQ and chill

PaperHandsTheDip

Haven't looked at TQQQ / it's price yet. I've been cash gang since spy was mid 680s. It's not low enough for me yet... within the next \~1-3 months I'll start a position. This war & oil prices are going to last for a while. Effects are 6-12+ months. Markets are forward looking by 3-6 months. So I gotta frontrun both of those events... probably in 3-4 weeks I start tbh.

PaperHandsTheDip

Honestly kinda excited. We gonna full port TQQQ in the next few months. Thanks for the tendies everyone

PaperHandsTheDip

A \~15% drop on QQQ warrants a full port into TQQQ. Literally cannot go tits up. My DD was my brother went into cash - that was good enough for me. Sold and chilled. It's quite a bit lower than where I sold. Yeep. I have no need to go super degen - buffer is large enough I don't care much. Degen shit is fun / profitable in perma bull markets. As soon as that fails I stop playing.

f0xinaround

Cash gang here too for safety. Also just messing with some etfs. But with all the madness it's been a bit choppy. True on the TQQQ. And I hear ya. Sometimes its just better to take a break.

PaperHandsTheDip

Cash gang boring bro. Been there since mid feb, still proudly CG. Like 90%. When buying back going into boring ETFs until we get those fun bull markets again. Probably buy some TQQQ and chill on it.

Neo1331

I mean swing trading stocks isn’t hard if you can learn the technicals and put the FOMO to the side. I love swing trading TQQQ and SQQQ.

IncomingAxofKindness

You're gonna get downvoted but actually good advice. I'll do one better: Keep it all in cash until you see about 4 to 5 posts a day on here about: "I'm thinking of selling all my stocks until the war is over." or "How much lower can it go, should I just get out now and wait till next year?" At that point, put half of your 70k into TQQQ leaps, and the other half into 100x levered bitcoin. Your great grandkids will thank you.

Good_Ride_2508

>How do you guys handle massive losses? Especially mentally? What was your biggest trading blunder? I realized the mistakes, removed margin, do not bet options regularly. Instead using 3x etfs like TQQQ, SOXL. Habitually, at times, whenever low cost 0DTE possible, I play with small amounts. It is for fun, no greedy amount is involved. As a trader, I can not control this habit !

pmotiveforce

I hope so. My "bear" port has been shitting the bed along with the rest of the market, so I guess I need this shit buttoned up asap. I even doubled down and bought some TQQQ Friday in a desperate hope. Now, we go back over SPY 675 at any point, it's back to puts.

pmotiveforce

I rolled the 50/50 die and bought a bunch of TQQQ Friday, so now I am retarded spastic idiot bull. Durr, 700 at open! Durr, wen V durrrrr. Durr, money printer go brrrrrr! Too big to fail! Durr, who bets against murca?! Durrrr..... Now excuse me while I go jork it while snorting drano, because I'm a bull now for the next 3 days and might as well enjoy the whole experience.

hegorachi2

okay bought alot of TQQQ hopefully prints on monday lol

PaperHandsTheDip

I'm sitting heavily on cash right now. I actually sold the top for once lol. When buying back I'm doing a split of S&P500 and TQQQ. TQQQ will win in the long run, by a massive margin. But it's going to be volatile as fuck.

pmotiveforce

Not me sold mine today. Bought some TQQQ earlier after hours too in 401k. Figured some sort of arbitrary lying over the weekend would pump. Will go back to buying puts around 675+.

Illustrious_Pair2990

Down $10k on TQQQ 10 minutes before close now almost even

Rizocon1

I’m going to full port TQQQ when I feel it in my bones

Competitive_Ride

Going to sell some gold and start buying TQQQ

Individual_Section_6

Your math is highly exaggerated. You aren't going to lose 4% on a 10% move, and over the long run you at least double your gains even with erosion as long as the markets are positive. The longer you stay in more compound interest you get. That's why the TQQQ is up way more than 3x over a 10+ year period.

Fhyzikz

I hope next week we dump 20%. I will go all in TQQQ and close the app for 10 years for 1 million dollars glitch

hegorachi2

not looking good yall. scalping TQQQ here but not looking like a good year

lyfehaqer

TQQQ thank me later

Fhyzikz

Insiders. Only no way to know if they are longing TQQQ or SQQQ

nvidia69420

A lot of people got burned bad 2day it’s okay! I may try TQQQ/UVIX calls 2 weeks out tmmrw 😬

Neo1331

I was, 30% on my TQQQ calls today…

WSB-mods-are-

The TQQQ subreddit just redirects to local prayer groups

LiveInLayers

I laid in bed last night watching TQQQ pump thinking I wiped myself out for the year 

AliceNullptr

How about full porting TQQQ?

LiveInLayers

Im locked in with TQQQ puts. I either win or am wiped out for the year. 

Affectionate-Text-49

I do Covered Calls on leveraged ETFs and it works very well for me. I'm actually shocked that many people don't do it. It requires a lot more activity and management. I do the management daily. I have plenty of time. It pays me more than my previous job and I love it. If you want to set and forget or do 30+DTEs, it won't work well. I have weekly expirations. I sell Covered Calls with anticipation that prices might drop, I take profits early by buying back and cashing out premiums, ... Etc. I trade both SOXL and SOXS, TQQQ and SQQQ, TNA and TZA, UVXY and SVIX, ... I love it.

Neo1331

Sitting on TQQQ calls, so it will be red. You may thank me later…

Kind-Worldliness4634

TQQQ calls specifically

Me-Regarded

Pussy. TQQQ

LiveInLayers

We ride at dawn. Literally a couple of points will destroy my TQQQ puts. 

LiveInLayers

banbet TQQQ 43 1w

JagwarRocker

Years ago I did covered calls on SQQQ and TQQQ when they were each trading at the same price. I bought equal shares of each, then sold calls on each position when I got a favorable move. My intention was that the price movement in the ETFs would zero out, and I could pick up income on the calls. It actually worked for a few months, picked up about $2k gain on $15k of total capital. However... 1. These ETFs are not meant to be held long term so eventually the prices got a little whacky for the trade 2. It was exhausting trying to monitor and maintain the covered calls Eventually I moved on to other trades

LiveInLayers

Buying weekly puts on TQQQ. Traders following orange man statements instead of actual events are going to be left in the cold. 

midhknyght

Last Sunday when oil rose to almost $120/barrel and TQQQ dropped below $44 I managed to snag 100 shares. By the time of normal premarket (7 am) the panic abated somewhat and priced were much higher so I got a good deal. Bid/ask spreads were like 1-2 pennies so liquidity is still fair for *high* volume securities.

HugeAd5056

I got that. If you’re only doing $4k total that’s not high risk, but it might not be capital efficient. As you said, you’ve gained virtually nothing. But in a crash the losses would make it just a waste. A good stock to sell CSPs on would be worth having after the draw down. For instance, if I sold a CSP against IGV, it’s twice the exposure of TQQQ, but I’ll be happy owning it after a crash knowing I’ll get the value back faster. I’ve sold CSPs on this every other week in the past month or so and whether I buy shares, sell CSPs or buy calls, I win.

HugeAd5056

Difference is, if the market crashes back to April 2025 levels, you’re looking at a 50% drop on TQQQ vs a 33% drop on QQQ. Probably won’t happen, but it would be something like that.

HugeAd5056

TQQQ draws down a lot. I thought about wheeling it but realized it’s very risky.

Good_Ride_2508

If nasdaq-100 includes SPACE-X after 15 days, the decision is crazy for QQQ and TQQQs. Why? (even though complex situation, trying to show simple way how can it be harmful) Space X lists at nasdaq with 5% of float. Legally allowed ( Page 5 reference www dot sec dot gov/files/ipo-investorbulletin.pdf ): Underwriters can support the trading price of the new issue in its first few days of trading with certain trading activities, including purchasing shares of the company. This is often done to keep the trading price from falling too far below the offering price. Once this support ends, the stock price may decline significantly below the offering price. They keep the price for 15 days and then nasdaq-100 at the close of 15 day. Now, the price is pegged at when nasdaq-100 linked date. Simply space-x valuation is offloaded to NDX/QQQ holders. In future, when rest of the 95% is eligible to sell, every sell is spread across QQQ distribution. This means QQQ is used as a scapegoat for Space-X valuation. QQQ and TQQQ won't grow long time !

fungoodtrade

TQQQ is 3x leverage... that is pretty standard in my mind 3x. I'm sure I'm missing something

stephendt

Personally I buy in when shit looks absolutely terrible. When people start to panic and liquidity dries up, 10%+ drop in indexes, that's when you can get bargains. Sure it can go lower, but the moment things turn around you usually miss out on big gains in reversal Just set a limit order about 3% lower than the current price at that time and capture the downside volatility. Ideally use leverage. I'm probably going to be 100% TQQQ next week lol

suicidalducky

F...i should have kept buying puts. But I decided to buy TQQQ calls.. hoping 🥭 would somehow taco himself out.....I guess no hope.

No-Consequence-8768

No, that's like TQQQ. QQQ is Very minor. Had you held all components(\~101stocks) separately as weighted as rebalanced, etc..., less the ER. You would come out ahead of QQQ/DNX100.

LiveInLayers

Techs in danger.  With inflation ticking up there is no way we see interest rates cuts. The discount rate is going to swing against them.  TQQQ puts like a degen. 

LiveInLayers

TQQQ puts for the weekend. Trump always dicks us down over the weekend. 

LiveInLayers

Selling USO and getting TQQQ puts like a degenerate. 

OnceALoser

I would have made good money if I had just bought TQQQ puts at open instead of calls. The data dump at 8:30 am fooled me.

EvangelineRain

I’ve still yet to figure out how to use call options strategically. Both buying and selling tend to lead to regret lol. I’ve done better with put options. Mostly selling, but I bought a near the money put to hedge a TQQQ position I don’t want to sell, which seems to be serving its purpose.

AMadWalrus

Surprisingly up quite a bit compared to my usual TQQQ antics.