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Valero sees refining margins remaining high this year; shares climb 4% (NYSE:VLO)
Most Important Earnings of the Day in the Stock Market 1/26/2023
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VLO Earnings has exceeded forecast AGAIN!!! Now we wait for the market's reaction
VLO trading at 44% below fair value (according to Yahoo Finance)
Start of my options journey (Day 1-3)
58.4K to 129.6k over the past year on oil - mix of shares and leaps
How do you feel an energy heavy portfolio will hold up during these trying times?
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Yolo’d my house’s closing cost into VLO calls like a true retard
$VLO, volume before the bell, 100 calls at 80/1.56 strike. Trying to follow the momentum is hard when you work 9-5
Energy Oil & Exp was the sector to be in today!!! I used to work all year and couldn't make what I made today on paper LOL... $CPG $CVE $WCP $VLO... Live long and prosper my fellow Redditors!
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At this moment, $HAL +13% $CVX + 10%, BKR +10%, $SLB +12% $VLO +10%, $MPC + 10% $COP +8% $SOC +6% By the time the news hits its always too late.
What’s the market angle that actually trades? * Oil: Venezuelan crude is heavy/sour. U.S. refiners can process it, but throughput, margins, and contract terms decide outcomes. A quick gasoline glut is unlikely; diesel/asphalt effects are more plausible. Near-term watchlists: refiners (VLO, MPC), services (SLB, HAL), integrateds (CVX). * Gold: Above-ground Venezuelan reserves are limited; new mining is slow. Hard catalyst for a gold crash is weak—uncertainty often supports gold and miners/ETFs. * Geopolitics: This looks more like U.S.–China pressure than pure commodities. Expect higher risk premia, defense names bid, and swings in rare earths/critical minerals on export-control narratives. * Power/AI: Backup generation demand is real, but fuel logistics and capex are multi-quarter. GNRC/CMI can benefit from deployments; it’s not an overnight fix for the grid. Bottom line: price in more volatility and be selective across energy, defense, and equipment instead of assuming a clean “oil flood” or a gold collapse.
Q for you then with your experience. Ive been trading and investing for 15ish years. In my experience sometimes the easiest most obvious big trend, trades really do work quite well. For example, you could buy AAPL in '15 on a couple qs of slowing iPhone sales AFTER buffet bought it and showed up on the 13s. You could buy MRNA and BioNTech AFTER we knew the vax was gonna work and still make a huge return. Same for WFH stocks like zoom after it was clear WFH was gonna be a thing The travel names when it was already apparent people were booking trips again NVDA , AFTER chatGPT came out and AI was the hot thing. LLY well after hundreds of articles and everyone plus their sister on GLP1 Euro weapons companies well into Ukraine war and re-arming under way. So this trade is a simple one, yes, but does HAL and VLO make sense even if it's kinda obvious and consensus?
Yes and I am looking at Schlumberger SLB too, SLB will be the brains of the operation and they have the technology to start new wells in Venezuela and they have the technology to get to hard to reach oil, I will be looking to hold both SLB and HAL for the next 8 months. A refinery to look at is Valero VLO as these already have the infrastructure to refine venuzelas type of oil. They are one of the few refineries that can refine heavy crude.
Some informative videos here I'm trying to get bonds right now and going VLO, PBC and PBF since heavy crude is a effort to process, (used to broker oil crude en590 etc) Also HAL obviously, SLB and BKR are pretty much mentioned by the president himself Can't believe we are in a time of effectively invading countries but tbh I think probably better for the people there than the level of corruption it had, they will hand it back over eventually and in the meantime there will be a lot of opportunity for people living there who are some of the most friendly warm people I've met https://youtu.be/24HUOARwbTQ?si=AyhqW2kmEnloiPBi https://youtube.com/shorts/765XDmQV5XI?si=3-4O5y-zx25TJLfN
Chevron (CVX) is the only major still working in Venezuela, Exxon (XOM) & ConocoPhillips (COP) have huge arbitration awards on the books but no direct presence in Venezuela. My money is on the downstream guys like Valero (VLO) who can refine Venezuela’s heavy sour crude and the services companies like SLB & Baker Hughes (BKR).
only real winner is chevron that somehow managed to stay in venezuela under a special license, VLO also a play because they finally get heavy crude to process again
I'm long on both XOM and CVX. I'm also long on some utilities: DUK, ED, and AMGN. I also have small positions in VLO and ENB. With these I am generally up, but not beating VOO, and have been collecting dividends, some as DRIP others to invest in other stuff.
I have positions in SOFI, NOK, CSCO, ORCL, PFE, VLO
XOM was great buy during covid time in their $30's. Last three years it's pretty much flat between 100-115. With low oil price refiners like VLO might be a good pick. Unless XOM can tap into data center power requirements , I am not sure if it can go much higher.
Shorting this $DK..its aoil refiner and it can go green like $VLO $MPC
Ok I'm convinced that this sub is completely fucking regarded and would rather spout dumb shit theories than look at actual numbers. As it stands, Venezuela produces less than 1 percent of the oil globally. .8 to be precise. IF the USA invades Venezuela (and that's a pretty big IF) you may see a price spike in oil due to speculation, but it won't last long term. The volume could be replaced almost immediately. Here's the kicker, the type of oil that they produce is a bit unique. It's heavy, high sulfur crude, so if you were gambling you'd want to invest in VLO MPC or PSX. They are refineries that are designed specifically to process heavy-sour crude. Their input costs wouldn't go up by that much, but diesel (their output) would go up significantly. So those companies would get some pretty big profits from a supply squeeze of heavy crude.
RTX, VLO, MPC all up, VZ invasion coming to save the economy.
absolute no volume on VLO and its onlt earning play i succeded. my fucking luck
Also closed VLO for 67% profit before close.
Interesting. I'm short deep ITM DELL, VLO, AMZN(\~190), and MSFT, waiting for them to expire. I've always use a 10% return target to roll, but often that leads to dead $ when the stocks move. I need to figure out when to buy back when time value drops.
Agree with VLO. And thanks for your comment. I try and wear my downvotes as proof that my investing experience and strategy is still valid.
VLO is a solid play. don’t mind the dumb ass above you
I made a huge gain on VLO about 8 years ago and then lost it all on MU.
Loss porn up [https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1m8b5kf/vlo\_cracks\_open\_my\_portfolio\_with\_40k\_loss/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1m8b5kf/vlo_cracks_open_my_portfolio_with_40k_loss/) My model was off by $2/bbl in realized margin. Still a beat and strong guidance but -5% on VLO as I type, so I clearly did not realize what market was pricing into the stock for earnings.
So, VLO beat but is tanking. Why?
Whoever wrote the very compelling VLO earnings call play 🖕🏽 you
VLO beats EPS by a huge number and the stock tanks 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
profits from OPEN, KSS and DNUT straight into GLXY and VLO
That's an interesting company, thanks for sharing. They aren't a refinery like VLO that turns crude into gasoline/diesel, VG looks like it does liquefaction, turn natgas into LNG (gas to liquid form) for shipping overseas. Right now Europe is short on natgas storage and the bottleneck getting cheap US natgas over is US liquefaction capacity, so VG is worth looking into.
I have started buying more commodities - commodities themselves as well as miners and refiners, VLO, BP, BHP, FCX plus UVIX as a defensive strategy. Market has been too goo for too long. However, a great argument can be made for AI continued growth.
We’re uppppppppp on VLO right now 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨 thanks my guy
I knew you were fun! Okay we got VLO $135 Call ex Jul 3rd - 3 contracts. This would have been great to place Friday afternoon prior to closing. Anyways we’re going looks like 137 is the nearest resistance and I believe VLO gets there before the 3rd. Based on the simulation this would be a $400-500 gain. Wednesday we sell. Thursday we will wait until we see a day trend. Once we’re comfortable with our daily range. We’ll go all in on a contract ex that day. This keeps me from using my own money. I make safer calls during the week. Then use the entire earning for a OTM call Fridays (Thursday this week) looking at VLO (weekly chart) it bounced off of 135 FAITHFULLY . I wouldn’t have even needed to wait on this, I woulda placed a 135 call ex same day. VLO looks like it really doesn’t want to go under 135. Now I have to do my homework as I’m saying this from first glance.
Not sure why the govt would favor this over XOM, CVX, PSX, VLO.
Seriously? Just from looking at my screener: CI, GM, F, ELV, CVS, CAH, CNC, PSX, VLO… In fact, UNH’s current market cap as a percentage of revenue still seems to be an outlier in its own category. Not saying it’s a bad investment, but having an MC below revenue isn’t a great buy indicator (eg, WBA, which has FY revenue 15x its MC, but also is very far from a sound investment these days).
VLO up from open, XOM down.  to me
Oil: XOM, CVX, COP, TTE, VLO, BP, Shell I'm waiting on Pharma to see what happens tomorrow
Bought back all my puts on VLO and XOM just now in profit. Sold ford ( F ) for small loss. In profit for the day. Going to wait and see for now. Looking at put selling maybe later.
Started a position in ford(F). Sold puts on VLO x 3 .. (2) 108 strike for this Thursday and the (1) 98 strike for may 9th.
Sold puts on VLO . Bought ford (F) for. Starting position . Still mostly in cash .
SCHG, SWPPX, AAPL, KHC, SGOV. Next week will unwind more SGOV and NEA and buy BRK/B and hopefully even more AAPL if my PUT goes in the money. MSFT is also below its 52-week low. SHOP looks good. Maybe more VLO. DIS is getting destroyed, but I think it can get even more destroyed, and the upside is hard to see clearly, or at least it’s not entirely compelling. The instant the tourism thing abates it pops a bit, easy 5% up but “when”, right?
CVX, XOM two big players, also VLO
ACGL makes up a quarter of my portfolio. COLL, UVE, MGM, VLO, and some China all green
Buying VZ stock again (sold at hod today) . Selling VLO puts .
VLO, KHC, UNH sold puts. VZ buying stock.
|Stock||Allocation| |:-|:-|:-| |ACGL|Insurance - Diversified|26.00%| |UVE|Insurance - Property & Casualty|11.00%| |VLO|Oil|11.00%| |TUI|Travel Services|9.00%| |QFINC|Credit Services|9.00%| |MGM|Resorts & Casinos|8.00%| |WISE|Information Technology Services|8.00%| |DR|Medical Care Facilities|8.00%| |PDD|Internet Retail|6.00%| |JD|Internet Retail|2.00%|
> Anything interesting as far as value goes? Obliterated large cap biotech (REGN, BIIB), European luxury (primarily the highest quality - LVMUY; a lot of the rest is a hope for an uncertain turnaround in things like Burberry and Kering), alcohol (REMYY, DEO, etc), refiners (MPC, VLO - although less so than a couple weeks ago) and some Canadian stuff (Stella Jones down close to 30% recently and some insider buying - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gc8kZGnaAAQTMO0?format=png&name=900x900)
I dont mind ‘sin’ stocks in general but I wont put my capital behind GEO. VLO is an interesting play but i dont know enough.
OXY SHELL BP COP VLO, all will rise until Isreal strikes. In the unlikely event they hit the oil production facilities, all those stocks will jump. If not, sell the news
If it gets over 144.28, you made 2.26/share ($226) and you're out the VLO shares. Absolute worst case is VLO is worth zero and you keep the 428 minus the total loss of 14,202 equals a net loss of 13,774 instead. Congrats you successfully cheated the market you absolute guru.
*OP: bought 100 shares VLO at $142.02* OP owns, and is seeking a return from $14,202 of stock. This isn't a video game, that money is on the table. Is it all going to disappear? No. Is it there and could foster a loss? Yes.
You're already thinking about the worst-case scenario which is good. The one thing that comes to mind is if VLO were to significantly decline in price, you are still on the hook to hold those shares until the expiration date. You wouldn't be able to take advantage of other opportunities if something else came up.
I liked VLO when I held it. Great dividend stock
W crude coming in cracks should widen. Long some $VLO
Buying refiners off crude # $MPC $VLO
Bought VLO at around $75 in part for the 5.3% divvy. I use divvy cash to buy more VLO. Compounding is a wonderful thing.
Never selling! Only waiting to buy more! JPM, VLO, COP, PEP, KO, JNJ, INGR, etc....
VLO and VKTX put me back green for the week and month. God Bless em!
$VLO morgaging my house to short $VLO up $8.50.. Looking for 155 to cover
For the distillates / VLO
For tech, I would pick 2 companies you have the highest conviction in. I would personally go for GOOD and AMZN if I had to pick. For energy, VLO. Despite being up so much in the past 5 years, it's trading at only 7x its average free-cash-flow and still a good buy. TAC is a good choice now too because management is turning the company around. I bought at the bottom this year. It's 50% oil 50% green non-solar energy. It's trading even cheaper than VLO.
Yea I add a margin of safety on all energy companies I look at when evaluating their worth, and they still come out as attractive. I'm 15% in TAC, and 11% in VLO. Normally I'm not so concentrated, but value and energy are attractive alternatives to tech at its high.
Sir, time value of money is the most important thing you can recognize. You can become an old person with JPM @ $3.35, VLO @ 28.54 and others putting divvies in hand so you can play without flushing underlying. Remember the rule of 7 and 9.
I think a recession directly caused by a refinery supply chain crisis would be lead to a massive differential in equity performance between refiners and the market. Like +40% year for MPC, VLO, etc., -20% for the rest of the market. Like what happened with shipping container stocks in 2022. But whether they want the goldilocks is irrelevant, my point is supply in refining is uncomfortably tight and a 1-2% increase in the US barely makes a dent in that fact.
FLOT Had bit of cash sitting in account, wasn't sure what to buy so parked it there. Gonna let that sit until we pull back from near ATHs. I know, timing the market, but I can't see the market going up non-stop through an election year, especially with various indicators of a slowdown and what seems to be the big boys collecting profits at earnings recently. Would explain all the recent stocks going down after good earnings reports. Largest stock holding is some VLO I bought during the covid sale. Probably selling half soon, collect some profits.
What we think of VLO
Come on VLO I believe in you 
Commodity prices are falling and usually that leads oil falling. I hope not because I was sitting on some nice profits in VLO 36% and now down to 28%. Thinking about selling 1/2
COME ON VLO 
Take me back to the good old days VLO 
Yup I’m in MPC and VLO, will buy any dip in the morning
Valero (VLO) might be a good play. Oil and gas company based in San Antonio. It's one of the more popular gas stations in the state. TX has a lot of interest traffic even without an eclipse.
$PSX $VLO $MPC 
MPC and VLO cleanest looking charts 📈
Calls on COIN and VLO.
I caught NVDIA before its run, AMD, and VLO. I’m 3/3 so far these last few months. I’m betting ABBV will be a monster, could be wrong, but it has a higher chance of going to 200 than dropping lower, u got in at a good price, GL
Depends on your definition of undervalued, as PE doesn't tell the whole story. My list consists of Intel, Google, Meta (yes, it's undervalued even now), John Deere, Caterpillar, Pfizer and a slew of oil stocks (such as OXY/SWN, XOM, VLO, HAL, and possibly MPC/MRO). I'm bullish on tech, energy and telecom. Tech is obvious, as it's seeing impressive growth, but the sector IS due for a correction at some point. Intel has by far the biggest upside here. For the massive growth heading its way, the market sure as hell isn't taking it seriously, which presents a rare and great buying opportunity in an overbought market. In the next year or two, people are going to be kicking themselves for not buying it. Oil will continue to rally until at least October, and possibly until the US election. Gas prices are always a hot button campaign issue, so it's hard to tell what's going to happen the closer we get to January. I will reassess my energy holdings in September, but until then, my plan is to hold. Historically, oil has outperformed the S&P in election years, so we will see what that holds for a sector that's already undervalued. In the long term, telecom is expected to add an expected 5-7 billion new 5G connections by 2028-2029 based on infrastructure expansion. In addition to buying the beaten down telecom stocks when they were very low (im up 15% or so already on that alone), I've also bought a few hundred shares of Ericsson, who will be an integral part of 5g infrastructure. It also doesn't hurt that these stocks have a hefty dividend while they develop. Once the tech sector sees a correction, I fully expect the money to get moved into energy. REIT's could also see a pop depending on what happens with the rate cuts and economy.
Anything is possible. Everyone here is forecasting. ​ Other energy stocks like VLO and FANG have already broken out to new highs. XLE is the second best performing sector this year. Given all of them, XOM has a very good chance of breaking out its base as well.
I have been enjoying my VLO gains. Though I question the logic of selling an overperformer to buy more of a middling performer in the same sector.
I don't know if you guys are late to the trend or not, but I already made money on all of these over two weeks ago. Later on this week, are you guys going to talk about energy, too. I already got into these before it took off. I believe tech is consolidating. I am doing a sector rotation into VLO , and others like industrials this week on my watchlist.
VLO calls been printinggggggg
300% gain from VLO calls. i think im getting good at this
VLO, XOM, CVX 
VLO looking good for a quick squeeze the next couple weeks, 155 strikes could pay good, I got in yesterday
Both tickers have acquired the leaders in two separate spaces in the last 12 months (CVX + REGI (RNG) and XOM + DEN (CCS/CCUS)).....having a hard time seeing how traditional energy companies - using assets already in place / capex dollars already spent - are going to be beat out by less mature clean energy pureplays, especially when you consider items like sensitivity to interest rates, having a built in / natural hedge against illiquid and volatile clean energy commodity markets (go look at how LCFS and RIN prices have been trending of the last 24ish months.....), and attracting outside money that would otherwise pass due to technology risk that's embedded into most of these clean energy pureplay share prices that XOM / CVX / whomever can say "we're able to take risks on emerging energy industries and technology since our near term cash flow and leverage profile is supported by our traditional energy business" Don't believe me? Just look at how the share price of, say, VLO or OXY has moved over the LTM vs a clean energy pureplay they'd compete with (let's use VTNR as a comp for VLO in the renewable fuels space and ACC-NO as a comp for OXY in the carbon capture space) and let us know what you find...
|Companies|Allocation| |:-|:-| |NXST|17.75%| |UVE|14.50%| |BWMX|14.50%| |STLA|10.00%| |ALSN|9.00%| |BTI|9.00%| |CROX|7.75%| |ACGL|6.75%| |VLO|4.75%| |TUI|1.75%| (34.00% discretionary;; 21.25% financial; 17.75% comm; 9.00% industrial; 9.00% staple; 4.75% oil) (29.00% small cap; 36.25% mid cap; 30.50% large cap) (3.82% dividend; 1.06 beta)